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kicking down her campaign sign and the man didn't likemp it. watch.li >> he comes charging at me and gets between me and the car door so i couldn't shut the car door. and i didn't want to just -- i froze basically. >> that's when she says the man punched her, calling her an anarchist and saying she should kill herself. then first-time candidate shane macklin says he was at a restaurant in benton county minnesota talking about campaign issues when he was blindsided. listen. >> this gal over here asked me something and i was talking to her, and that's when this gentleman literally just t puncd me out of nowhere. >> he says he blacked out when he hit the ground. medical records show he suffered a concussion. police are investigating both attacks.s. in the meantime, another threat against maine g.o.p. senator susan collins, who of course cast the key vote justice brett kavanaugh. this time a letter was sent to collins' home address to her husband claiming it contained a deadly poison ricin.
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parts of collins' home and her dog are now in quarantine while a crime lab checks out the letter.e a g.o.p. candidate running for vermont's state legislature also got a threatening letter reminiscent of a mystery novel. the letter was made up of words pulled out of printed material to spell "we are hunting you. my comrades will kill you and the constitution. socialism is here. open season for republican. death in vermont." she says her platform of low taxes and small government apparently makes socialists want to kill her. finally, it's gloves off the democratic operative for a group funded by george soros is in jail tonight after allegedly assaulting the female campaign j manager of the g.o.p. candidatee kristin davidson said the attack left her traumatized and horrified. tucker. >> tucker: thank you, trace.
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you would think that violence, physical attacks and threats in our political system would shock all of us, but at this point unfortunately, nobody is really surprised. it almost seems normal. it was just last year that a progressive activist tried to murder an entire field of republicann lawmakers practicing baseball. he gravely wounded one of them. strangely, you didn't hear calls for gun control in the days after that happened. at this point, we have practically forgotten that it ever happened at all. so the cycle has accelerated. using force against republican officeholders and conservatives now seems like a feature of our political landscape. >> we believe survivors! we believe survivors! we believe survivors! we believe survivors! >> shame! shame! shame! >> no borders, no walls! sanctuary for all! >> if kids don't eat in peace, you don't eat in peace! >> tucker: so what is this really about? suddenly this kind of rage is everywhere.
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you've seen tape like that for the past several months.s but who exactly is it aimed at? what is the point? well, republicans,th obviously, are the focus of most of it. conservatives more generally. anyone else who descends from one true faith of cultural leftism. but really the target is the country itself. the left is angry at america. so all the time. this is not the democratic party you grew up in or that you remember if you are over 30.em that party may have stood for some bad ideas, and it did, but there was never really a question about its fundamental loyalty to america or the people who live here. the party of fdr and lbj, even of bill clinton, was basically a patriotic party. it was an american party. not anymore. in 2018, anyone who considers america a distinct physical place with meaningful borders and its own history and traditions and language and culture and values, won't feel comfortable in the democratic o party, indeed may not even be allowed in that party. to modern democrats, the leaders
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of the party, america is an economy with land attached. it's a massive private equity scheme from which they are benefiting. its people are interchangeable human widgets toto be discarded and placed when their usefulness expires. was this always what america was like, you might ask? shut up, they will explain. before obama got elected, america was truly a horrible place, a nightmare. watch new york governor andrew cuomo explain. >> we are not going to make america great again. it was never that great. >> tucker: it was never that great, says the guy who inherited his job from his dad. cuomo's remarks got some coverage on this channel, but they were hardly unusual for cuomo's party. before she founded the #mesioux movement, senator elizabeth warren spent a lot of time telling audiences what an awful country this is. here's one example. >> the hard truth about our criminal justice system,
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it's racist. [applause] when i say our system, i mean all the way. i mean front to back. >> tucker: racist, front to back. in other words, our laws and our police are illegitimate and they are immoral. don't worry about violating or ignoring them. texas senate candidate robert "beto" o'rourke agrees with this. he recently told a crowd that police in america murder and imprison people solely because of their skin color. that's factually untrue. it's ridiculous, and of course, he didn't even try to prove it was true, but it's also a slurn on decent people of all colors who are trying their best to serve this country in law enforcement. o'rourke's fellow democrats could have said something, but they didn't. they are not allowed to. nobody is. defend america and you will be punished. former congresswoman mary bono lost her job this week as president of usa gymnastics. what did she do wrong?
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she leveled a veiled criticism at colin kaepernick. that's unacceptable now. kaepernick makes millions denigrating our national symbols. he's a hero. nike hired him. if you complain about that, though, you're the villain and you are out. defending america is suddenly a firing offense on the left. mark salvas learned this the hard way. salvas wasn't simply a loyal democrat. he was the head of the allegheny county, pennsylvania, democratic party, also a military veteran. you think he would be allowed to stick up for america once in a while, but no.en he made the mistake of writing this in a facebook post. "i stand for the flag i kneel at the cross. not so long ago, most democrats would have nodded in agreement at that. t today it's hate speech and he lost his job. tonight their loss is our gain. and mark salvas joins us now. thanks a lot for coming on the l show. did i misstate that? did you have to leave your job running the county's republican -- ratherdi the democratic party, because of those words on facebook? >> i was the executive director of the county party and, yes,
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basically that's exactly what happened. because of that post, which i remind you was a over a year ago that i posted that. i was asked to resign, yes. >> tucker: you are a veteran, and you say you stand for the flag and you were denounced as a racist for that. >> correct. the people who brought this to f light tried to tie it to the nfl players taking a knee. >> tucker: so, look, i'm confused. i am not a democratic voter, never have been, but i've been here a long time. i've known a lot of decent patriotic democrats. it doesn't seem like that long ago it wouldn't been weird for the head of a pennsylvania democratic county party to say i stand for the flag and kneel before the cross. would it have been five yearsrs ago, a crazy thing to say? >> absolutely not. and i can tell youla even last year when the pittsburgh steelers decided to stay in the locker room instead of come outt for with the national anthem, one player, villanueva, any army ranger, came out and stood by himself with his hand over his heart and he was not considered a racist.
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even as much as a year ago, it would not have been unheard of to hear a leader in the party defend the flag. >> tucker: you were the executive director of the party. you obviously know a lot of democrats in your county, a traditionally democratic county. what have your former coworkers said to you since this happened? >> i haven't heard from any of them. i understand the party line is that it is a personnel matter, and i can respect that. however, those that are elected officials or party members who are not tied with my direct sort of chain of command, if you will, i have not heard from any of them. >> tucker: that's shocking. what does this say to you aboutt how the party has changed? >> well, it makes me wonder if there is room for moderate democrats in the democratic party nowadays. there were some elected officials who said that they acknowledge that they've known me and i am not a racist. however, it was insensitive. and unfortunately, if my patriotism and standing up for family friends has. become
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insensitive, then i think we as democrats need to stop and reevaluate exactly what we stand for. >> tucker: if standing up for the flag is considered racist, then what happens to the country, do you think,p going forward? >> that's a good question. i'm a little worried about that. >> tucker: what are you going to do? >> well, i would like to continue to bring this to light and continue to voice concern for this very issue. and then in the short term, ironically, my son is going in the air force in 60 days, so i'm going to spend some time with him, and then i will continue to fight this cause as long as i can and continue to clear my name. >> tucker: god bless. and let me just say, again, i'm not a supporter of the democratic party. but i hope you stay in that party because i think it needs normal people. >> thank you.ar >> tucker: thanks very much for sharing with us, that's a shocking story. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: what to make of this? we will break it down right after the break.
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♪ >> tucker: in a video posted today on twitter, nation of islam president and longtime democratic party stalwart louis farrakhan called jewish people "stupid," but then he clarified, he said this. i'm not an anti-semite. i'm anti-termite. so twitter, which bans people for far less, has said they will not suspend louis farrakhan's account. we are not complaining about that. we have repeatedly opposed and will continue to oppose techch companies deciding what can and cannot be said in public, even when it's ugly and lunatic, as
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that was. we will have more on this. what are the standards those companies use to ban speech? who exactly is getting banned? we are trying to find out. we will bring you the results of that tomorrow. well, whether you are at a political rally or simply out to dinner with your family, is becoming accepted list on the left that anyone who disagreeses is game for harassment, even hillary clinton says that civility is pointless. how is this working, by the way for america and the democratic party? former communications director for senator harry reid of nevada joins us tonight. thanks a lot for coming on. i want to get your take on the man we just spoke to, the o executive director of allegheny county pennsylvania's democratic party, not some random apparatchik, but he ran the party. he was kicked out because he said, and i'm quoting nowra "i stand for the flag and i kneel for the cross."
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what does that tell you? >> it bothers me that this is something he posted a year ago and they hired him anyway. it's not lost on me how all that is and they still chose to hire him. i think that's fine if they decided to hire him even after the post. it bothers me that they fired him a year later because of it. >> tucker: i'm confused.. what's wrong with that post? i stand for the flag and i kneel for the cross. i think most americans feel that way. why would that be a bad thing to write? >> because we know this is obviously something that goes against what colin kaepernick is standing for. or kneeling for, as the case may be. as we talk about the injustices done to african-american people but i do think it's important to remember as we talk about this, incivility on the left, the allegheny county party is 1 of 67 county parties of pennsylvania. one of thousands of county parties across the country. this is one small example. >> tucker: we can even take that out of this conversation and get to what you were saying,
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which is that this is troubling because, i'm quoting you now "it goes against what colin kaepernick is saying." is colin kaepernick in charge of the party? isn't he a football player? >> that's not at all what i said. what i said as it bothers me that they decided a year later that is problematic and it's probably because they got a lot of heat.nd we know that the people who are involved in county parties both on the republican and democratic side are the people -- they are the most passionate activists you can find.as that's a lot of what happened here. >> tucker: but leaving aside even the allegheny county party, i just wonder, simple question, is it okay to say that? if i say i stand for the flage and i kneel for the cross, i'm a sincere christian and patriotic american, can i be a democrat in good standing or am i a racist for saying that? >> you should be a democrat in good standing. it's a big tent. you should be a part of it. i'm bothered by the fact that
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they -- having a hard time talking. i'm bothered by the fact that they fired him over this, particularly since it washe something that happened well over a year ago. they knew about this. if it was bothersome then, a they should have not hired him in the first place. >> tucker: of course i agree with that part completely, though they may not have seen it. i think the party is changing, i think that really is the point. but i'm bothered by this theme i have seen, which is really not mistakeable, that anyone who said the country, flawed, of course, had a civil war over it, flaws, continue to fight about its flaws, but basically it's a good place. better than any other place. it's not an inherently racist country. our justice system isn't inherently racist. cops aren't shooting people because of their skin color. and generally it does not happe happen. that's why so many africans move here. if you say that they are like, what, what is this? >> there is no hate. there is no better place than america. i think we can all agree about that.
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but there are some problems that we have here. emere is institutionalized racism. we do know that we have situations where more african-americans are pulled over by police officers than white people. we know that. there is evidence to back that up, but that doesn't makee america not great. >> tucker: we don't know that actually. we don't know! >> it's called google. >> tucker: it's hard to interpret what the data means, actually. numbers are not the same as reality. they are a measurement of a phenomenon but they don't explain what the phenomenon is caused by.'t so actually there's a debate about this and to say institutional racism is not an exclamation, it's a slur. but i guess, why is it that so many democratic candidates -- how can beto o'rourke, not his real name, robert o'rourke say cops kill people because of their skin color. it doesn't happen on a large scale. why doesn't anybody say anything about that? what about all the black cops out there? >> the g.o.p. county party in kansas can get away with calling his opponent a radical socialist
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kickboxing lesbian who he wants to send back to the reservation. >> tucker: [laughs] ii don't even know what you're talking about. someone said that? >> it's called google and it is out there. they fired him over that but we do have very real problems here and i think the things you are pointing out are not just issues on the left, but we see these sorts of attacks on the right as well.. >> tucker: that's just not true. there are wackos on the right for sure, obviously. but there are not a lot of people choosing losing their jobs at companies because they are too left wing, that's just not happening and you know as well as i. kickboxing. i'm going to look that up. thank you, great to see you. treasury department employee has just been charged criminally for leaking information involved with the russia. new developments in that investigation, which is still ongoing. it tells you a lot about how it works.
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she is accused of leaking those documents to buzz feed, a semi-news site. she's just the latest member of the bureaucracy to be caught betraying the public's trust to empower the #resistance. mollie hemingway, give us a sense of the scale of the crime here. these are bank records -- why would she have access to their bank records and what sort of it's betrayal is it to leak them to the press? >> this woman was a senior analyst at the treasury department's financial criminal enforcement crimes enforcement network. she had access to so many of these documents, which are very confidential about bank records, any time there is suspicious activity that gets investigated by the treasury department. she was found to have had -- she was found to have put tens of thousands of them on a flash drive to be sharing them over the course of a year with a buzzfeede reporter.
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and one of the things, interesting in the affidavit is there's a coconspirator involved who is her boss at the treasury department.re we tried calling the treasury department's office and askingwe them which part of the office was she in so we could determine who her boss was and they wouldn't tell us. they are being very tight-lipped about this. she's a senior person. but it's even her boss as well that is implicated in this crime. >> tucker: leaks are common in journalism. and this show is the beneficiary many leaks, including today. you don't share them with the public unless there's a reason for it. the public has an interest in this, there is a right to know. is there any conceivable reasonn that the bank records of these guys should have been revealed to the r public? >> she herself said when she was caught today that she was doing this as a whistle-blower, she was sharing it with reporters so the records would be safely kept with him and she claims she did not know he was publishing stories about that. that doesn't stand to reason that that is a reasonable explanation.
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she was sharing a lot of information that supported thist russia collusion narrative. this idea that trump was a traitor who had colluded with russia to steal an election. the way that story has been fed has been through these types of selective leaks and it has gotten a lot of people caught up in it who should not have had their government conspiring against them with the media to create this narrative and it also probably shouldn't have taken a full year to know this is going on. buzzfeed stories were actually pretty clear that they were getting the suspicious activity reports, which do not come from a lot of places in the government and they have been publishing a story after story after story of these going back to october of 2017. they weren't well hidden, where this office was that was leaking it.. i'm actually kind of surprised it took so long for people to finally catch up with the people who were leaking. >> tucker: do you think there's any kind of behavior p that can't be justified in terms of resisting trump that the left wouldn't resort to??
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>> we've seen that with this set of leaks and so many of the other sets of leaks, that there is no norm, there is noee line that cannot be crossed or violated in service of resisting president trump, and you have had a lot of people say it's crazy to think that there's a deep state that would be conspiring with the medium to undermine the president, and yet you have stories like this. this is not the first person toi be arrested for leaking or lying about leaking. james wolfe, the senate staffer who was sleeping with a reporter and sharing the information with multiple reporters. reality winner who was sharing information. a lot of people who have not even begun to be caught.it the people who did the criminal leaking related to michael flyn flynn. i don't think the fbi has been doing a particularly good job of tracking these leaks. there's a lot to be done here if peopleth care about having a government that makes sense and is not conspiring against the president. >> tucker: and doesn't crush on popular citizens because they don't like what they voted for. mollie, great to see you
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tonight. thank t you for your explanatio. it's going to be 420 every day north of the border. canada is legalizing marijuana nationwide. potheads are psyched. how should you feel about it? it could be coming here, what would that mean for us? that's next. us geico has over 75 years us of great savings and service. with such a long history, it's easy to trust geico! thank you todd. it's not just easy. it's-being-a-master-of-hypnotism easy.
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♪ >> tucker: canada has become just the second country in the history of the world to fully legalize the sale of marijuana as well as the recreational consumption. much like young americans, younf canadians increasingly can't afford to buy homes or start families or even have cars. more and more of them are stuck living at home with theirn parents, whom they will make less than as they get older. these are huge problems. no one is even thinking aboutma how to fix them, but at least young people will be too high to notice. maybe they won't complain. is this idea coming to united states? of course it is. mason tvert is spokesman for the marijuana policy project, he joins us tonight.
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thanks a lot for coming on tonight. >> thank you so much for having me. u >> tucker: of course. does it bother you when big business and government align to make young people more passive and compliant? >> well, it bothers me when government creates foolish laws oft destroy the lives countless young and older people alike for using a substance that is objectively less harmful than alcohol. marijuana is out there. so rather than forcing it into the underground market, criminalizing people for using it, let's actually control it. let's regulate it. let's treat it more like alcohol and do what we can to minimize the potential harm around it. >> tucker: we are not doing anything to minimize the harm around it.o obviously we will never do that. it's become more potent. i would concede thatmi in a lot of ways alcohol if more threatening than marijuana for sure, but it's also less deadening and that's kind of a point about marijuana.
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government isn't in theut marijuana business because it wants to minimize harm.s it wants to make money and tax revenue, but it also wants to keep young people passive and stupid and less likely to complain and revolt when the economy they've created doesn't serve young people. you don't see this?? >> i think it's actually kind of an absurd notion, seeing as marijuana has long been associated with younger people revolting. marijuana became popular in the '60s during the antiwar movement. >> tucker: do you smoke a lot of weed, mason? come on now. come on now. i grew up in california. i know what marijuana is. it does not make youee more liky to do anything, is the truth, as you know. i know firsthand, and i know you do too. >> that's a foolish stereotype.t >> tucker: it's not a foolish stereotype. it's reality. >> that's like saying everyone who enjoys a cocktail after work with their friends is a lush. it's just not true. >> tucker: no, no, i'm not -- hold on. i'm not arguing that. >> it's not a big deal. the last few presidents. we've had supreme court justices, countless business people.
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it's not a problem for adults to use it responsibly. >> tucker: you're totally missing it. you're totally missing it. i'm not arguing that. i'm not arguing it is a problem for people to smoke marijuana occasionally. i don't think it is. i'm not a prohibitionist at all. i'm not a neo-puritan, unlike everyone on the left. i'm just saying if you make it legal, many more young people will use it much more often. this we know. it's true of everything. >> that's actually not what we are seeing. colorado, washington, oregon, nevada, every state that has made marijuana legal has not seen an increase in teen use. >> tucker: that's not true. spare me the fake numbers. it's actually not a fact. >> talk to the governments in each of those states. >> tucker: let me just ask you. over populations, it is true that marijuana -- and this is a clinical matter that has been studied a lot over decades --er makes people less likely to act. it makes them more passive and i'm just saying if you are running a system that was not serving young people, serving them so badly a lot of them became socialists, wouldn't you want them passive and spacey and
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out of it, and wouldn't you also want to collect the tax revenue and continue your alliance with creepy big cannabis companies? that's kind of what's going on, right? >> i think it's bizarre that you want the government to use this as a way to criminalize a whole population of people and contros people. you want it to be a crime for adults to use a substance less harmful than one that is legal to you or me or anyone. >> tucker: no. no, no, no, what i'm saying is marijuana are effectively already was decriminalized in most places. not every place. there are people who do jail terms for weed. >> hundreds of thousands of americans are arrested every year for marijuana. >> tucker: no, no. no one in most places is arrested for a joint -- look, we had a "don't ask, don't tell" policy in a lot of places. >> talk to the fbi, tucker. >> tucker: i have. f i have. >> several hundred thousand americans are arrested every year for marijuana. >> tucker: but hold on. you could very easily, in effect, decriminalize it
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for small amounts without legalizing, which means every time i walk through times square, someone is hitting a vape or smoking a joint, which is what it is now. s i'm saying it's a totallyly different thing, as you know. but big companies want to profit from this. >> don't you see what you are saying? it's illegal in times square. >> tucker: i'm saying it's already been decriminalized as you know. in new york city, washington, d.c., people smoke it on the street. >> if you, do you're going to get cited. the same if you have a beer on the street. >> tucker: you're wrong. i thought you did this for a living. that's not true. nothing happens to you when you smoke weed in new york. >> i will give you a million dollars if you can prove it's legal to use marijuana on the streets. i >> tucker: you're missing my point. it's not enforced. de blasio just said toe cops, i just talked about it. that's better than legalizing it. the only thing that will do is make it more common. >> this is the most absurd thing i've ever heard. you are denying the facts. >> tucker: you are denying reality. >> thousands and thousands of
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people are arrested in new york every year for marijuana possession. it's just a fact. you think it's this conspiracy to dumb down america. >> tucker: it is literally that but it's also a conspiracyi for people like you to get rich from selling it. let's be honest, this is big corporations trying to get rich from kids smoking more weed. i'm sure you've got a piece of it. don't give that personal freedom garbage. this is another corporation. >> do you think alcohol should be illegal? do you think coors and anheuser-busch are evil corporations and that they are just out there to destroy the world? >> tucker: not to destroy the world. >> do think that alcohol should be illegal and that these companies should not be there to provide a product? >> tucker: right, a product, it's just a product. no, it destroys people. i've seen it. we are out of time. i wish we could keep going, because you know what i'm saying is true. good to see you.
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♪ >> tucker: recently you've probably seen quite a few of the on television denouncing saudi arabia for the disappearance and probable death of a journalist. the trump administration is telling us isn't doing enough in response because trump loves dictators. he does love dictators. it's not really true, the real reason trump is being soft on the saudis, if he is in fact
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being soft it's because the people around him are pushing him to do that. neo-cons love the saudis because the saudis oppose iran, it's that simple. we are not here to endorse saudi arabia. obviously a corrupt and medieval desert theocracy but we should pause for a moment and point out the hypocrisy from our own press. saudi arabia has been in the news for a long time,, like 100 years, and no one ever seemed to care about the implication and a 9/11, funding radical islamic ideology around the world, funding insurgents in syria, radical imams in the west. they barely even covered the saudi military campaign inur yemen, which has been horrifying. and then twice in the past two years, this country, the united states, bombed syria, even though no apparent american interests were at stake there. why did we do that? in part because saudi arabia e pushed us to do it, and you know what the media said? they loved it. watch. >> it was required to take direct military action to
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degrade the use of chemical weapons by the murderous assad regime. >> it's very clear to me that this president, after using such rhetoric on sunday, had to take stronger military action than we did last year. >> we have a leader who is now a war criminal supported by the iranians and the russians. that demands a strong and risky response. if the west won't stand up when a leader uses gas multiple times against his own people, we live in a very dangerous world. >> tucker: you know what you just heard? you just heard the saudi line on foreign policy. all those little robots wereea repeating it uncritically as they have for decades. o now they are whipping around and saying that trump is sucking up to the saudis because he has a soft spot for strongmen.d really! if you are concerned about sucking up to strongmen, what do you make about the media, the left more broadly has done with the biggest and most heinous and powerful, by the way, dictatorship in the world every single day? that of course would be the chinese government.
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china has merited far more -- murdered far more people than saudi arabia even considered beheading. the press doesn't care and the they whine the president has been too hard on china, boo-hoo. so someday in the very near future when china surpasses the united states in the size of its economy and military power, they will be ready to bow down to their new overlords just like kent brockman on the simpsons. >> and we would like -- ahh! >> and i for one welcome our new insect overlords. i would like to remind them that as a trusted tv personality, i can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves. >> tucker: yeah, that's just in a cartoon. in real life you will be working in a foxconn factory. have fun. to continue our coverage of major democratic candidates in the lead up to the midtermrm elections, tonight we take a closer look at the gubernatorial candidate in florida, his namete is andrew gillum.
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the mayor of tallahassee, currently ahead in the polls amazingly, and if elected he has an agenda that florida has never seen before. florida has more h than half a million illegal immigrants living within the state's borders. his response to this is to describe immigration enforcement of any kind as immoral. he has called for abolishing ice for example, watch. >> ron desantis, the republican nominee had a statement last night about you,a he says you want to abolish ice, you do, correct?t >> we want to replace ice with the department of justice, an entity that has not been tarnished in the same way as ice has. >> so again, he says you want to abolish ice, you say you want to replace it, that's basically the same thing. >> tucker: that's basically the same thing, and he's not embarrassed of it, why would he be? he also has long-standing ties to a group called the dreamnd defenders, a radical left-wing group based in a state of florida. they have to announce to the very existence from police and prisons and called for the elimination of national borders.
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they also called america the planet's biggest bully. gillum's response has been to brag about sneaking food to the defenders when they occupied the capitol of florida.l he was also a big fan of radical, genuinely radical billionaire george soros, watch this. >> you were supported by two billionaires who came in and helped your campaign and largely your campaign early on was funded by them, george soros and tom steyer.er how do you square sort of a populist progressive campaign that wants to get big money among other things, get big money out of politics, get dark money out of politics and yes it's billionaires that have to prop up your campaign? >> i will tell you, i'mt obviously deeply appreciative, of both men who i've known for some time.e. >> tucker: not shy about it anyway, and although it has nothing directly to do with running the state of florida, he thinks that trump is a racist who must be impeached.
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>> this president has been wrong on almost every issue and as governor -- his wrongheaded racist and sexist policies. donald trump should be impeached now. >> tucker: racist! that guy could be running the state of florida. not a small thing, it's not a small state. lisa boothe is a fox news contributor, she's been following this race closely. she joins us tonight. >> kind of terrifying, isn't it? >> a little bit considering half the population of pennsylvania, new york and new jersey is now living there to get away fromtl the lunacy and out of nowhere he looks like he could be the next governor. very quickly, did we mischaracterize that? i don't want to be unfair and does he really have a shot to win? >> the race is within the margin of error, so there's still hope for florida. if you are a floridian at home there is still hope there but the guy is a socialist. he hasn't outright called himself that but he's embraced the endorsement of bernie sanders. there's literally no daylight
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between his policies and alexandra ocasio cortez outside of the fact that she would essentially be irrelevant where has he would be the governor of florida. as you mentioned, this guy supports abolishing ice. he supports single-payer health care systems. he wants to raise taxes on job creators in the state by a billion dollars, making the tax rate higher than it was before. all of those businesses that have flocked to florida try to get away from higher taxes are going to be heading in the opposite direction. the most troubling is the dream defenders group. they want to abolish police, they want to abolish prisons. they believe in a border-free world. this is a very radical and dangerous group and he signed their manifesto. he signed their pledge,. the freedom paper. >> tucker: it scares me for what it says about the country, if someone like that wins. lisa, thank you very much for that, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> tucker: google, the most powerful monopoly in the world
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>> tucker: tech monopoly google recently refused to work with united states pentagon, it cited ethical concerns for refusing to do that. whatever ethics the country has do not keep it from working with china's fascist government. the ceo of google confirmed recently that google is in factt working on a censored search engine that will help the chinese government repress its own people. potentially it could allow the government to track who is using it, who is making the searches. roger mcnamee has watched the evolution from a tech sector from the very beginning, an early facebook investor.
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also the author of the book "zucked" and heav joins us tonight. thanks a lot for coming on. leaving aside whether it's right or wrong to help china repress its own population, should a company that is willing to do that have control of all of our data in this country? >> i think you are absolutely right to focus on this issue. the problem you have here is china is an enormous market and google apparently cannot resist the temptation to do business there. the problem is you can only do business on the country's terms, which require note. only censorship, but reporting anyone who makes searches that are considered inappropriate by the government. and google employees, i think, are very concerned about this. i think there's a lot of internal dissent but i think that the management team, for whatever reason, it is determined to go ahead with this. and i don't think google ten years ago would've done this. i think this is a new thing. >> tucker: it's a big market? that would be like saying i'm selling fentanyl to kids but
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like a lot of kids want fentanyl so i should sell it to them. >> i don't think there's any other explanation for it. these people are looking at this as they are bigger than any one country. google's mission has always been to have all of the world'shi information, to control all of the world's information. they view china as a huge part of the world and they want to control all of it. i think they would tell you this is their core mission. in my mind it's completely inappropriate. it really bothers me. i know it bothers a lot of employees at google and i don't know how this is going to turn out but i hope in the end pushback will make them back off with this. >> tucker: google is, among other things, one of the most technologically advanced companies in the world. this technology is far more sophisticated than anything the pentagon has. so why wouldn't at some point google become a threat potential to the u.s. government? why wouldn't our government be worried about it? >> i'm particularly worried about it in artificial intelligence. google has demonstrated a complete commitment to doing business on chinese terms and they have put themselves forward to our government as the leading
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artificial intelligence company in the country and they want the government to finance google to develop more artificial intelligence for our national security. it's my mind, that it's completely inappropriate to do the same things for china that they were doing for us. for the reasons you are describing. it doesn't make any sense at all. >> tucker: we only got 30 seconds left but i want to know why are american lawmakers moved in the face of these obvious threats? >> to be clear, i think there are a lot of lawmakers who are concerned about it. i think for right now for whatever reasons congress is focused on other issues in this one is gigantic. and you know there was a hearing in washington and google didn't show up and this was not the court focused but it was issues like this one and google chose not to go. as though they are somehow immune from having to testify in front of our congress. and in my mind it's justmu completely inappropriate and that stuff has got to stop. >> tucker: when you're that big you can do what you want. >> they shouldn't be allowed to do what they want. >> tucker: i agree! i totally agree! [laughs] a >> this is america. you are on the team or the off the team.
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that's the attitude they don't have. >> tucker: thank you. god bless you for saying that. that's it for us tonight. we will be back tomorrow to the show that is the sworn and cheerful enemy of lying, prosody, smugness, and groupthink. dvr it if you haven't already. tomorrow is going to be a great show. we have an investigation underway into censorship online and we will tell you what we found. a meanwhile, sean hannity live from new york. i hey, sean. >> sean: great show as always. looking forward to that report. welcome to "hannity.">> while max, busy news night. glad you are with us. 20 days to go until the midterm elections. as a matter of fact, look at t it this way. three weeks from tonight, we will be talking about the results. that's how close we are. democratic candidates, democratic candidates, they run for nothing but fear of president trump. grow the economy, protect the american people. they are just fueled by this rage from their humiliating loss in 2016 and democrats have vilified all political differences. no moderates left.
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