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now. >> a billion. >> i kept saying, i will wait till it goes higher. >> what are the taxes on a billion? >> i don't know. how much do you end up pocketing? pocketing? >> enough. >> i just don't like the fact that when people when they are publicly known. >> i would love to win the lotto but, i would keep it a secret. >> "outnumbered" starts now. >> melissa: fox news alert, we are awaiting remarks from secretary of state mike pompeo in mexico city at that massive caravan of honduran migrants inches closer to our southern border. this as we are learning that the u.s. backed the plan for mexico and the united nations to work together to and all those thousands of migrants moving north from central america. this is "outnumbered" and i melissa francis. here today, dagen mcdowell, town hall editor and fox news contributor katie avalanche, executive in residence at
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american university and former state senator capri cafaro, and joining us on the couch today, the executive vice president of the trump organization, eric trump. and he is outnumbered. aren't you always outnumbered in manhattan? >> eric trump: i'm just going to say this, there are a lot of of -- a tremendous amount of love in new york city. >> melissa: it when people come over and say, you guys do a great job and we want you all the time, but they are usually whispering. you are right about that. >> in ohio, that's not what happens. >> eric trump: in ohio no one is whispering. [laughter] >> melissa: secretary of state mike pompeo is set to make remarks in mexico city is a massive caravan of migrants moves towards the u.s. later, the nation's top diplomat is scheduled to meet with them president on the issue. this is the mexican government
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announced yesterday that it would seek to work with the united nations to set up shelters and processing centers for refugees along its southern border, a plane that the trump administration says it supports. mexico's ambassador to the u.s. pounding the movie last night on a "special report." >> the mexican government, and this is a very important step, requested the intervention of the u.n., the office of the high commissioner and refugees, to help mexico review any asylum claims from the members of the caravan. that will allow us to have a process by which, in our border, we will make sure that, observing human rights, respecting international law. if there are legitimate claims to refugees, those can be processed in a very clear way. >> melissa: president trump applauding mexico's action at a rally last night and montana while slamming congressional democrats on immigration.
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>> president trump: i just want to thank the mexican government because they are stopping it before it ever gets to mexico. as you know, i'm willing to send the military to defend our southern border, if necessary. all because of the illegal immigration onslaught brought by the democrats, because they refuse to acknowledge or to change the laws. they like him. >> melissa: eric, let me start with you. it's logical that the u.n. would go down there and it set up a place to process people, to look for refugees and where they should go, why wasn't this done before? >> before they had to travel through an entire country which is a fairly long country. isn't it a relief? aside from sending the military to our border, aside from setting up refugee camps on our border, isn't it a great relief that he also said, you know, we will stop funding all the countries who aren't helping.
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we give hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars of foreign aid every year to countries around the world. iran gave hundreds of billions of dollars to iran, a country who absolutely hates our guts and look what we get for it? we give so much foreign aid to countries around the world, millions to honduras and all these countries. he says, you know what? i will stop giving you foreign aid if you don't take care of this problem. make sure this doesn't show up on our southern border. >> melissa: people would say that's heartless. >> eric trump: it's not heartless at all. you have to protect the country, you have to protect the border. there's an article that came out that said that they found over 100 ices members and one of these countries. those people could clearly be coming up through the border as well, it's not heartless. you have a country, they come into this country illegally. i'm the product of immigration. people say they are anti-immigrant or you are anti-this. my mom wasn't born in the
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united states. my father's current wife wasn't born in the u.s. but they came into the country legally. they learned the language, they took the tests, they did everything that they needed to do. you can't just have 4,000 people walk into a country. in those countries need to control their own populations. >> we found out that there is a new study done by a yale mit research are the estimates are 22 million illegal immigrants in this country which is roughly double what the stated number is. i think that what is going on with mexico, and working with the united nations united nations, again, it takes -- it whacks at that kind of narrative from the deranged, liberal left, the president trump hates mexico. and it speaks to what has been going on with mexico. we have increased the credit line available to mexico, upping it to $9 billion. and what happened with the renegotiation of nafta? the first portion of that is going to lift workers in that
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country, it will lift wages for auto workers in mexico, and that piece got done before even canada. so again, what is happening with our southern neighbor is pretty incredible in terms of how this relationship came down. >> eric trump: the democrats ran on this notion that trump, you are anti-hispanic or anti-this or anti-that, and recess, any other word you could think of they threw there. we see that when the president of the country comes out and says, this is what they did. the first people willing to sit there and renegotiate nafta, their relationship is incredibl incredible. this is one of the best things that we can do, empower the mexican government to take care of themselves and it be that from central america.
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central america even more so than mexico is the challenge where you have gangs, or you have human rights issues. and we can actually partner with the new united nations or government of mexico. that not only helps the united states but mexico, and those that are trying to be migrants and find a way out. and what we can do is work with the mexican government and the united nations to find out a way to protect those individuals and to give a safe harbor. >> you also have to take into account those things. what's heartless as sending your child alone through mexico to be paired up with a smuggler or someone claiming to be their parents. there have been multiple cases and multiple stories since the
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whole outrage over the child minor crisis showing that the parent of the little girl or little boy that was brought from honduras or guatemala was being sexually abused and molested by the parent who had no dna connection to the kid. the problem is, according to the u.s. law, the president is doing everything he can through the executive branch, telling mexico to help us, and congress essentially gives them free reign to get into the country. our immigration laws do not complied with children as a result of the way the law is written right now. so it's up to congress as the democrats pointed out, and the congress to decide, do you want children to be abused as they are coming up as migrants through this process? and why is it that mexican citizens are subject to different laws than citizens of
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other south american countries? >> melissa: i have to think that there was some connection, people don't see the connection between the tariffs and the trade wars and the idea we are trying to name renegotiate trade deals, and then these other issues. i have to think that embedded somewhere in the usmca was also conversation about how we are dealing with this other issue? are those talks intermingled? >> and probably overall relationship meaning people are sitting down and talking and coming up with something that works for everybody. think about the relationship that u.s. and mexico could have and i think now is having. you have countries like china that have taken jobs and everything, they are halfway across the world. look at where mexico is possession. mexico has such an incredible opportunity in so many ways, they are our neighbor. no different than canada. that is what nafta used to be, we should be absolutely tight at
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the hip, not just with social issues but military and security. this is our hemisphere. >> president trump is actually closer in his immigration policy standpoint to the mexican government on the left is to the mexican government. mexico doesn't want central americans illegally emigrating to the country either, whereas before they let them go through and into the united states. now president trump is engaging the mexican government and engaging the ambassador and saying, i want you to stop this problem. you don't want this country staying in your country illegally either. >> not all democrats -- >> spek out the ones on capitol hill are. >> when the president talks about immigration and what's going on in mexico, that speaks directly to his face. however its midterm election season and it highlights what congress has not got done for the trump voter in terms of fully funding the wall, in terms of putting financial restrictions on thanks ray city is. that is a fight yet to come.
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the president said he will veto it if he doesn't have it and he's willing to shut the government down after the midterm is over. it highlights something that all these people running for election haven't stopped up about. >> >> eric trump: two months ago all they talked about was century cities and immigration. >> abolishing i.c.e.! >> eric trump: they won't mention those three topics now. guess what, let's not use the century city word anymore or that i.c.e. word anymore. because those issues do not play well. >> melissa: as the midterm campaign season enters the final stretch, president trump is stepping up appearances and some key states including montana last night. will the trump effect to be a game changer? plus, president trump is speaking out on the missing saudi columnist, amid growing questions as to how the u.s. should respond if the saudis are proven to have murdered him. we will debate.
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saying that the u.s. is waiting on the results of saudi and turkish investigations before responding to the disappearance of a saudi columnist. it took it took its officials allege that jamaal khashoggi was murdered at the saudi consulate in instant bowl. the saudis deny any knowledge of his whereabouts. here with the president yesterday. [indistinct question] >> president trump: it certainly looks that way to me, it's very sad. [indistinct question] >> president trump: it's very sad, but we will see what happens. >> melissa: mike pompeo denying an "abc news" report that turkish officials provided him with the audio and a transcript of the killing. in the meantime, g.o.p. senator bob corker accusing the white house of not sharing intelligence about the incident, telling politico this "this is going to come to a head in a very short amount of time.
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there has been a clampdown on any further intelligence updates to senators. it can't go on that long. they need to come out and share their views of what happened, and share with us." a white house spokesman denied to political that they are withholding intelligence updates to congress. eric, what our next steps here? >> eric trump: it's tough, you can't have journalists getting murdered. in the way they did it was savage and awful and 15 people go through, and whatever happened in that room was clearly awful. at the same time, i think we have to be honest with ourselves that in america we face a problem, we don't have that many friends in the middle east. saudi arabia has been a friend to the u.s. in many ways. ordering massive orders from us, hundreds of billions of dollars worth of arms and various things which will create tens of thousands of jobs. so you can't be executing journalists, or anybody else. it's behavior that is savage and everything else.
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but at the same time, who are our friends of the middle east? uae, and i don't mean to be binary with this. one action is not acceptable, but it leaves them in a tough predicament. >> let's talk about the money between saudi arabia and the saudi royal family in your family come up the saudi. let's just go through it. is it true that the saudi government bought an entire floor of trump world tower $44.4 million, which would have been a great deal by the way? >> eric trump: may be 28 years ago when we built the building. >> they bought a yacht for several million. the trump hotel in manhattan went up in 20% in the first
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three months of 2018 due in large part to the saudi crown prince? >> eric trump: the saudi crown prince stayed at the plaza hote hotel. but what happens is when they take over an entire hotel and there are four hotels in midtown manhattan, it creates extra demand in the market. so it costs more. we have zero relationship with saudi arabia. we have zero. we don't have any holdings in saudi, no interest. we have zero financial relationships with saudi arabia. it's a narrative that the democrats like to throw around. every three seconds we get a letter from elijah cummings about something. we want to know the deep financial ties that you have too saudi arabia. i'm reading this letter at my desk and saying, we don't have any financial ties with saudi arabia, we have nothing to do with saudi arabia. by the way, four days before i get a copy of the letter, cnn has it in "the washington post" has it. this is the evil game they play.
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>> here's another narrative that's developing in other news channels. linking khashoggi's murder to the president's rhetoric about journalism, they are trying to link the two. essentially laying responsibility. >> eric trump: they are saying, you know what, when they are down, we want you to wind up and kick them in the head. there was this great guy, featured all over fox. he had an american flag on the back of his pickup truck and some antifa guy comes out and torch as his truck. talk about these guys clawing at the supreme court. >> not to interrupt but i have summarily condemned to this kind of activity, but don't you think that the united states has an obligation as either the leader of the free world to stand up and say, we will not tolerate these things, human rights are
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incredibly important. and i'm not suggesting that we are not doing that but don't you think that that is our job? >> the amount that this will cost saudi arabia is not even quantifiable. you have every single ceo of these major banks who will go over there, they won't go. this is -- this sets the country back five years. you are executing potentially journalists. these the sets and back years ad years and it's a major blight. you don't think if the royal family of saudi arabia could rewind the clock -- >> while we could get into come up with all respect, the minutia of whether the trump family is tied to saudi arabia, would it change the policy in the current situation in the middle east? we are at a time when the middle east has shifted. iran is an excess dental threat and as we have said it, it's horrific that jamaal khashoggi
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was horrifically killed in the way he was, but you are not going to completely destroy all these new alliances and old alliances and saudi arabia when you are facing an excess dental threat in places like lebanon and syria. there are economic issues that they could deal with, president trump i'm sure in his conversations with the royal family has had some harsh words about not behaving in certain ways and, don't make us look bad because we need to move forward together. it's about working against an existential threat and the idea that we would change our entire policy over something that happened in turkey, and the president and the secretary of state still haven't heard the audio of the incident, is ridiculous. >> harsh words are not going to be enough, it's got to be more than that. what would it be? what's an example of something that makes sense to show that america is going to stand up for what's right? >> and i will add that steven mnuchin is not going to this conference next week.
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that's an important symbol. >> the saudis try to portray themselves as moving into the modern era, and they are doing it slowly as you have experienced. but for them it's also about their standing in the world and their views, they do want the business. they do want -- we still don't know the details of what exactly happened here, if people want to jump to conclusions. >> i think you condemn them, very hard. but i do think the pressure of the world is going to, in a large way, take care of this problem. it was a horrible, horrible thing. but right now we took 10 minutes to talk about this issue, everyone in america knows that saudi possibly killed a journalist on their soil. this sets the country back across the country billions and billions of dollars. this will be a blight on their reputation and it's something that will not soon be forgotten and i think that's very powerful. >> what about individual sanctions against anybody
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identified under the magnitsky act? >> eric trump: i'm a civilian in this process looking in. this is the problem. you have a powerful ally in a very unstable part of the world, where we have very few allies. and you have an atrocity. >> does it make the crown prince unfit, do you think? >> you don't know what happened. >> eric trump: if he ordered it, probably. i think anyone ordering the execution of an journalist would be defined as unfit. >> i just wanted to point out something really quickly. because of the president's policies about rolling back regulations, this year we will be the number one oil producer in the country. but in terms of, bigger than saudi arabia and bigger than russia, that gives us a enormous power and security when something like this happens, with an ally or a foe in the middle east, whether it's iran or saudi arabia, it gives us enormous strength because we can
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act in america's best interest and reflecting america's values, because we don't have to worry about an oil embargo. >> when i said it's not about oil, for once it's not because we have that to rely on. >> when you say it's the saudis but it's a very general term because there are a number of factions within the saudi royal family. there could be parts of the family that are responsible for what happened in some parts that are not end there may be consequences within that structure for the people who carry this out. i think generalizing that the saudis did this -- obviously it happened in the saudi consulate so someone from saudi did it but when it comes to faction and who's responsible you can't generalize about what the consequences are going to be because we don't know exactly who did it and who was responsible for it. >> melissa: moving on, the president keeping his word on the midterms and it's something for g.o.p. candidates all over the country. the focus right now, three hot senate races that could hold the
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and part of an effort to unseat democratic senator jon tester who currently holds a slim three-point lead over his republican challenger, matt rosendale. according to the real clear politics average of polls in the state. the president as usual is not holding back. >> president trump: if you want to drain the swamp you must defeat the democrats and you must defeat senator jon tester. i mean, he's a super liberal. i know you people. i won by a fortune of votes, i know you, and you know me. how did you ever elect that guy? how did you pull that off? >> melissa: in just three days, president trump will have traveled to three states that are crucial in determining which party holds the senate in november. tonight the president heads to arizona where republican martha
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mcsally is battling it out with democrat kyrsten sinema. and tomorrow he will rally for g.o.p. senate candidate eugene heller who is in a tight race with jackie roseanne. on top of all that, at ten democratic senators are up for reelection and states of president trump one in 2016, and in several of those states, the president's approval rating is higher than it is nationally. what do you think that means for those races they are to have the president show up? >> eric trump: i think it bodes very well. you should see the crowds and that energy in those rooms. they will have 30,000 people with another 10,000 people outside watching on a jumbotron, and those are people that could just get the tickets. they are going home and telling all their friends that they were just at the trump rally. these guys are going crazy, they are laughing and having fun and cheering. the amount of patriotic spirit in that room is incredible, and that is what my father has done
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different than everybody else. he has turned politics into something that is fun, the people can be proud of. and believe me, it helps. they notice instant jumps in the polls. the one do you feel like it translates to local candidates? democrats say the president is so unpopular, and you think it helps the republican candidate? >> there's no question it helps. we have the best economy the country has ever had, we have the fastest growing gdp, 4.2%. lowest unemployment, lowest female unemployment. >> 4% growth is a higher plateau but it's not the fastest on record. >> we've grown faster. i just wanted to stop you there because it is, during president obama's term, we never grew 3% in any one calendar yea year. >> eric trump: "the new york times" actually
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made fun of him during 2016. he is taking crazy pills. he's nuts if he thinks he can -- right? and then all of a sudden, it's growing. >> why isn't the republican in montana running away with it in a state that your father one by more than 20 percentage points? >> there's a lot of states that you could point to like that. historically, they've gone on a federal level, and on a state level, they are democratic. >> for example with jared brown, because of the dynamics in ohio and, even though president trump wanted by 11 or 12 points, sherrod brown is still leading. i always give credit where credit is due, but in my little corner of ohio we do have some challenges. i want to take this opportunity, we talked about this a little bit off air. we make the chevy cruze in ohio, in my home county.
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a county that voted for president trump, first republican since 1928. we've lost 1500 jobs that are general motors plant. we welcome the opportunity for the trump administration to, and help us bring the chevy cruze back from mexico. that will help him in 2,020. >> that's the number one focus, bringing jobs back to the country. i tell this story all the time, everywhere you went you see these factories. they had chain-link fences around him, no cars in the parking lot and the windows were broken boarded up. they had no life, and that's one of the reasons. >> you brought up montana and i will get criticized if i don't bring up the fact that greg g and 40 pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor assault after a physical scuffle with a reporter last year. this comment of course is making comments. watch this.
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>> president trump: and by the way, never wrestle him. never. any guy that can do a body slam, he's my candidate. [cheers and applause] >> melissa: so that was obviously related to an assault on a reporter, the white house correspondents association responded with a statement saying "all americans should recoil for the president's praise for a violent assault on a reported doing is constitutionally protected job, this is an attack on the first amendment by somebody who has solemnly pledged to defend it. we should never shrug at the president's cheerleading for a violent act targeting a free and independent news media." >> eric trump: he wasn't the guy that body slammed anybody. he can have fun. the six exactly why my father one. so many people were so tired of the perfectly scripted politician who men memorized their sound bite and went out
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there and had crowds, and they had no charisma or personality. to go out and say, as a guy who is not a pc and probably won because he's not pc, -- >> do you feel the same about eric holder saying, when they are down, we kick them? >> eric trump: eric holder wasn't laughing when he was saying that and joking around. the demeanor was different. he seen, when they are down, you go up and you kick them in the head. i think it's totally different. the way you actually convey a message -- hey, that's my kind of guy, tough guys. don't mess with him, he's a great guy, come up here and say a couple words. i think that's very different. >> i wonder if president trump doesn't have the same problem that president obama did, there's a 40% drop off between the presidential election years and midterm election years in terms of the turnout.
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because you have this incredible personality but -- >> i know we have to go but the differences barack obama did nothing for the democratic party, he left them to drown, dry up and die whereas president trump has been on the campaign trail in multiple states and many times during the week. the differences of the work being put in an president trump clearly cares about the party unlike barack obama who left his party to fend for themselves, so to speak. >> melissa: and is a key figure tied to the trump dossier appeared on capitol hill. nellie ohr, wife of doj official bruce or worked for fusion gps during the 2016 campaign. the doj faces new allegations of political bias in the run up to the russia probe. we will debate. ♪ i'd like to take a moment
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>> melissa: this fox news alert, a key figure linked to the anti-trump dossier now speaking to house lawmakers on capitol hill. nellie ohr, wife of justice department official bruce ohr worked for fusion gps, the research firm that compiled the dossier. she is appearing voluntarily for a transcribed interview, but sources are telling fox news that she is claiming spousal privilege to decline to answer certain key questions. this comes after former fbi lawyer james baker testified for the second time for a joint house panel yesterday on fbi and doj actions in the run-up to the russia probe. and on a report that deputy ag rosenstein discussed recording president trump, and removing him from office under the 25th amendment. rosenstein is set to appear for a house panel next week. congressman james ratcliff said
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the testimony was eye-opening, watch this. >> as i walked out of that room, build, more convinced and more concerned about the fbi and department of justice had not met its obligations in disclosing material facts to the foreign intelligence surveillance court, more convinced and more concerned that the fbi had leaked classified information, more convinced and more concerned that a bunch of trump eating agents and lawyers at the fbi were telling president trump he was not under investigation at a time where they were discussing investigating president trump. >> melissa: house freedom caucus chairman mark meadows saying that baker's testimony led him to believe that rosenstein should resign. watch. >> i think it's time that rosenstein steps down and he should do so immediately. in doing that i think he could serve the country well and serve as president well. and it's time that we eventually
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get to the truth of the matter. >> melissa: eric, the danger is, the issue is for many conservatives in this country, the democrats take the house and all this will end. we will never know what went on at the doj and fbi, in terms of what was going on behind the scenes. >> eric trump: and a lot of countries you have little green men in camo with machine guns running into an office and that's how they stage coups. in america, they just weaponize the system. i never as a civilian would have ever guessed that this kind of stuff could have possibly happened in our country. it's gross, it's disgusting, it's horrible. they use a phony document created by a nice wife to go in and to spy on their campaign and try to undermine his entire presidency to harass people and destroy people's lives, to try to take people down, because they weren't good enough to win this thing on their own. they had a bad candidate who wasn't willing to go to michigan
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and wasn't willing to go to pennsylvania or all the states and campaign. they didn't have a message. so they turn to a phony document. i mean, it will go down as one of the great frauds in american history. i fully believe that. they cost so much money, it's wasted so much time, it caused such distraction from, really meaningful things that could be going on. >> melissa: we say unverified dossier. my issue is, we still have to connect the dots on this. then you haven't nellie ohr claiming spousal privilege on certain issues and glenn simpson contesting with several members of congress but pleading the fifth, and we have just a matter of days before the midterm elections here. >> and the issue comes down to how barack obama's department of justice repeatedly used it to
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weaponize politics against people who he didn't like. he saw hillary clinton losing, if she were to lose, they thought she was going to win, as a threat to his legacy. and it has been. the problem is, we don't know exactly how deep the connection went between the department of justice and bruce ohr and an outside group including the clinton campaign and of the dnc. so the dnc, the democratic party was using at the federal government agency which is supposed to be neutral especially in the department of justice to go after campaign members and opposition political campaign. if president trump hadn't won, we would never know about any of this and no one would be held accountable. so the next question is accountability. you've seen andrew mccabe, he was under investigation and he was fired at, a number of other fbi officials have been fired and cleaned out. there needs to be more of that. >> no one in the real world america cares about this. to be honest. they are most focused on the day-to-day kitchen table issues than this.
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>> it could happen to donald trump and it could happen to you, too. >> eric: it did happen. everyone forgot about the irs scandal, this happens all the time. how about hillary getting the debate questions ahead of time? you go around the circle, and -- >> there are job openings in this country and that's 900,000 more than people looking for work, so they do care about that. they were wild about bernie just a couple of years ago but now some of these 2016 alums may not be on board for a possible sequel. we will tell you why, and we will ask eric which democrat he thinks might take on president trump in 2,020. >> that's a good question, not me. ♪ 300 miles an hour, that's where i feel normal.
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>> melissa: some bernie sanders 2016 alums reportedly fretting about a possible 2020 bid by their old boss. according to politico, they are worried about his age. come on now. about may be a more diverse candidate going against president trump and not being able to create the same magic
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this time around. some former campaign aides plan to stay in their jobs and others are keeping an open mind about 2,020. among that group is fellow democratic socialist and congressional candidate alexandria alexandria kiesel cortez. when it comes to age 2,020 challenger two president trump, recent polling shows that joe biden is by far the top choice among democrats. sanders is a distant second. eric, what do you think, who would be your favorite candidate to run against the president? who would be your favorite? >> probably different than the person who i think would have the best shot, i think elizabeth warren should run a company could be amazing comedy for 18 months. i mean, what has happened for the last week with the whole dna tests, it makes you shake your head. he or she is a writing indian cookbooks and proclaiming yourself to be native american in law journals, then we find
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out that she is 1/1024 native american. >> may be. >> and that's less native american than the average american. >> so who do you want to see? i would give him the toughest run, do you think? who's the most competitive? >> you see him touting biden but then all you have to do is talk about the obama economy. >> is he responsible for that? >> eric: obama? >> joe biden. >> eric: while he was certainly part of the team we had to. we had horrible health care and he was certainly part of the architecture of obamacare. we had economy that grew at the worst rate since the great depression, meaning the recovery was the worst since the great depression. you had -- you cost -- every country company left the country, it was
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overregulated. >> but he does connect with the blue-collar d. he's scrappy, and we don't have a huge farm team so we are relying on somebody that's over 70. >> eric: he also doesn't have any personality. >> he also threatened to take the president outside and fight him. the next show with elizabeth warren going out and doing this infomercial about her dna test, it shows that the president got in her head. and he is psyching her out. you see this with a lot of these candidates. >> it's like why do the democrats up on themselves? >> i wrote down hillary. who would you like to see run against president trump? hillary, that's all i wrote down because they won't go away. >> will biden would be great against trump and the general but i'm not sure he can get to the primary with all the intersection novelty and the requirements that you need to be
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did you have fun? >> i had fun being here. >> somebody tweeted they didn't like eric. we're back monday at noon eastern. right here melissa francis. >> mike pompeo holding urgent meetings in mexico as president trump signs off on the massive caravan heading toward our border. secretary of state mike pompeo in mexico city for meetings with officials there. president trump continues to blame democrats for weak immigration laws and threatens to shut down the southern border if mexico can't stop the caravan. listen to the president less than 24 hours ago at a rally in montana. >> i just want to thank the mexican goveme

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