aleve pm for a better am. eric: a caravan of central immigrants growing to an estimated 5,000 people. it's been a grueling marathon journey to our country and reports say at least 2,000 have already turned back to central america. welcome to "america's news headquarters." i'm eric shawn. they will there are the caravan reforming after a mexican police blockade appeared to break it

up. the president laying the blame at the feet of democrats. president trump: i think some bad people started that caravan. more importantly or almost as importantly, you have some very, very bad people in the caravan. you have some very tough criminal elements within the caravan. but i will seal off the border before they come into this country and while bring out our military. arthel: niles, the guatemalan government says 2,000 members of the caravan have turned back to honduras. does this change the campaigning on the caravan? >> i don't think it changes the way the president will be

campaigning on it. he'll be in houston with senator ted cruz. cruz is in a hotly contested reelection battle. certainly he would prefer to have this be one of the primary issues for getting out republican voters ahead of the general election in november. democrats meanwhile would prefer the battle be fought on healthcare entitlement benefits, social security and the like. arthel: two of our most of recent fox news polls, for the 2018 election, what's important to you in terms of voting. you have healthcare at 58%. the economy 54%. president trump 51%. and immigration coming in last at 46%. the next fox news poll asking

what should happen to illegal immigrants working in the united states. 70% of those polled said legalize them. 22% said deport them. while this may not be an exact blueprint, how might these results guide either party in the road to the mid terms. >> if you are going to be talking about the immigration issue, this is that contrast. on one hand you probably would have people who would want to be talking about securing the border, building the wall, the president trump likes to talk about. but on the other hand. that 70% figure saying the people who are already here. the 11 million are so probably need some sort of legal status. i guess there is that deal that is the rumored deal that could be had if you are someone like lindsey graham from south

carolina that you would be talking about in frequent appearances on television and elsewhere. but other than that i'm not sure who the target audience is going to be. i don't think the democrats will be want to go talk about immigration. >> since we are talking about the border, i want to go to william lajeunesse. he's just arrived in mexico with more. reporter: as far as the eye can see, i can see honduran immigrants moving north. they are north of the river. north of the bridge you saw people on yesterday. people got frustrated on the bridge. mexico processed 640 people, to get a visa for asylum could take 45 days. people were frustrated with it.

people came in rafts. i saw 200 immigrants crossing the river, coming here. now, you see them now. they are going to be as a rare van and we are 20 miles north of that river. some of the people here they are taking a break. they have some shade here. they are getting something to drink. i'll be joined by one of the members of the caravan. his name is lurks is. where are they going and why are they doing it? >> these people want to go to the border of the united states and they come here because the situation in our country is going bad. reporter: as you know. the u.n. high commissioner on refugees is here. mexico brought them in to help

processing. the standard they are going to use. unless you are a victim and have a credible fear you don't qualify for asylum. what are the people going to say when they get to the united states. >> they will probably say something. they will probably ask they can stay to the united states where the kids can go to school. and an apartment so they can go to work. reporter: president trump said they will not let these people pass. we saw 200 riot police who were going to stop them on this highway. they retreated. i don't think they want a confrontation. but the president said he's not going to let people in. >> he said that last time. but he opened the borders for them. all the people that went to the board, they are already in the united states.

reporter: mexico and the united states have supposed to reach a third party agreement, unless you request asylum in the united states, they are not going to let you in. that will be the reason for denial. will it stands up? >> probably yes. but if they send them back to our country, we coming back. reporter: that's one of the fears of mexico. if the united states denies people entry, there will be go toes and slums in mexico. this is a government in transition. they have a new president coming in december. he has different views on how to treat immigrants. how many people are here? >> over 6,900 people. reporter: i see mostly men. some only have the shirt on their back. a few families. are these guys going for work?

>> we'll find a job so we can help our family to the bring them some food, some medicine. some other stuff we need, the family needs. reporter: arthel dwab a lot of the mexican locals are giving these people help be they are giving them food, giving them drinks and giving them rides north in their trucks. reporter: are you going to continue on foot or get on the train or buses. >> we are going to stay there a couple of days. we'll try to ask immigration if they can give us a permit so we can circulate all the way to the border. so the people -- reporter: what they are asking is for mexico to give them and free pass, 40-90 day transition pass to transition to the united states.

mexico said they won't do that. we'll have to see what the mexican government does. arthel: neil is a report for "roll call." let's talk about that interview. that gentleman is saying he wasn't seeking political asylum. he didn't say he was running from the bad guys. he wants to come here because he wants a job to send money back to his family. what do you say to that? >> the u.s. long has had some guest worker programs and legal ways through which people coming in as migrant farm workers and other laborers have come into the u.s. but that has been more restricted under the trump administration as well. and in more recent years. so that may be not really an

avenue that's going to be open to people. but the question is really going to be, as a political matter whether -- it's a 40-90-day pass to get through mexico they are seeking. if those were to be granted, we are talk about my grants not potentially arriving at the border in texas and elsewhere until well past the election. by that point in time if we find out the democrats are going to be in control of the house, it seems plausible, if not likely. it might be negotiation with the the house democrats -- arthel: are you saying the democrats want everybody to come in open borders, free pass? >> i am not saying that. i am saying whatever it is the trump administration does in response to this potential arrival, if it doesn't come for

another 90 days, then we are looking at a situation where the oversight on capitol hill and the situation on capitol hill in terms of what the president can do and what he faces in terms of blowback and funding may be different from what it is today. arthel: let's talk about the problem. many of these migrants didn't get past mexico because the mexican president said if you don't have travel documents, and visas that are rubber stamped sanctioned by mexico you are not getting through. maybe with that success the president had there in mexico to block the people who are not coming through the right way, is that the conversation president trump should have and focus on that sort of policies with mexico? work with mexico and work more with the honduran government to

provide the aid these people are looking for instead of just focusing on the texas border where he just wants to build a wall. stop it before it gets to the border. >> i think that's a good point. the aid in central america and the negotiation with the mexican government which can spill into other areas of trade policy with the new proposed trade agreement with mexico and the united states and canada, it seems like that's probably the more appropriate place to have these discussions or the one that's more fruitful. i don't think anyone would want a large caravan of people to suddenly have to figure out what to do with when they arrive if they arrive far enough forth north to -- far enough north to get into the united states. arthel: we don't know if that large caravan will make it to

the southern border. you are saying we are open to immigrants but we want them to come through the proper channels. >> the question is what those proper channels would be next year if they don't make it too quickly. arthel: more questions but we have to move on. we'll have plenty of time to talk about this topic. thank you very much. eric: president trump now strongly criticizing saudi arabia's explanation for the death of jamal khashoggi. you know the saudi government claims he was killed from a fistfight that escalated inside their consulate in istanbul. the saudi foreign minister in an interview with bret baier called

it a rogue operation. he called the murder a tragic mistake. how should the u.s. respond? here is republican senator lindsey graham on "sunday morning futures." >> things like that don't happen in saudi arabia without people at the top not knowing. i like the president's measures response. he wants to consult with congress on what to do. they are an ally. but they need us more than we need them. reporter: saudi arabia is standing by its explanation of the death of jamal khashoggi. their foreign minister defended the explanation of khashoggi's death. they said khashoggi was killed inside the consulate after a

fistfight broke out. >> reports indicated at the consulate and our investigating team in turkey discovered there were elements that contradict what was in the report. then the public prosecutor launched the investigation and determined the reported filed were wrong and there was something that happened that was criminal. the first step of a long journey. we are determined to uncover every stone and find out all the facts. reporter: the foreign minister denied the crown prince mohammed bin salman had any knowledge of the operation. that has been widely disputed by senators in both parties including senator rand fall. >> i feel certain the crown prince was involved and direct this. that's why i think we can't continue to have operations with him. >> i find it surprising somebody

6,000 miles away can talk about something that happened 6,000 miles away with access to information. this is a judgment call from senator paul. this is not based on facts, it's based on speculation. there was obviously a tremendous mistake made and it was compound by an attempt to couch. these things unfortunately happen. we want to make sure those responsible are punished and we have procedures in place to prevent it from happening again. reporter: a lot of folks on capitol hill are suggesting they can't fully trust any explanation from saudi arabia. of course be sure to tune in to special report tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern for more of bret's exclusive interview. meanwhile, for more on how the

trump administration and congress should respond. let's bring in a senior fellow from the brookings institute. the foreign minister, adel al-jubeir said they were confused. do you buy the excuse that crown prince did not order or know about this cold blood murder of a prominent cite pick? is that even believable? >> it's hard to take the claims seriously. the saudis have been changing their story almost every day. we had three or four different iterations of this. so now we hear about a fistfight with a 60-year-old guy and there is apparently 15 saudi officials.

it's hard to take that seriously. and i think that's why many of us here in the u.s. we feel we have been disrespected. the saudis are basically not telling us the truth. and to put it nicely, lying. and not just to americans. but to the president and senior u.s. officials, after we have done so much for the saudis over the past years. for them to return with this level of disrespect. i don't think we like being take as fools. it seems like the saudis are assuming. eric: they are circling the wagon to protect the crown prince. the foreign ministered called it a rogue operation. >> this operation was a rogue operation where individuals ended up exceeding the authorities and responsibilities they had. they made the mistake when theyed killed jamal khashoggi in

the consulate and the they tried to cover up for it. eric are's covering up. they will be the fall guys. they will be i am prisons or beheaded to protect the prince. >> even if you take this saudi cover story at face value, the saudis ordered a kidnapping of one of their citizens on foreign soil. that's outrageous by any reasonable standard. why would they try to kidnap a journalist and bring him back to saudi arabia presumably for long-term imprisonment. that is very bad, and should be treated unacceptable. this is where i think the question of u.s. leverage comes in. the u.s. has tremendous leverage with saudi arabia. as lindsey graham said, they need us more than we need them. let's put pressure to get some answers.

a saudi internal investigation is not enough. those who are accused of murder can't be the ones to investigate their own case. that should -- that's a non-starter. eric: should this go to the u.n.? how about the world court? >> there has to be an international, independent investigation. one suggestion is a u.n. appointed panel. i think that's probably the best way to go or should be considered seriously, and trump should push that. then we can stop going with all these rumors and considering different cover stories. otherwise we have to take the saudis and the turks at their word. eric: a lot of people don't believe it. we'll see what sanctions there could be. arthel: deputy attorney general rod rosenstein is set to testify

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arthel: new developments in the case of the missing wisconsin team. investigators are. investigators are saying they have received more than 1000 test about jimmy carter's disappearance and are using our resources at their disposal to check out mostly. not signify that they are in with the latest. >> despite all the slaves come the mystery is truly deepening. a lot into this wisconsin home, murdered james into this cloth and abducted her 14-year-old daughter who's at the top of the fbi's most wanted missing persons list. we talked to a family member of denise closs said denise was said denise with the families angel who would take vacation days off if you needed help your family member tells fox news they have no clue who would want to murder this couple. a lot of folks online and here

on the ground speculating that maybe the 13-year-old girl had some type of boyfriend or met someone online who took it at a jumper and murdered her parents. a closs family member tells fox news the family was not aware of any boyfriend. we want to briefly highlight some of the chilling 9-1-1 call logs from an at the house the night of the double murder. at 12:56 a.m. from the police dispatch sense three squad cars to the house after someone called 9-1-1. at 1:00 a.m. four minutes later the squad cars make it to the house. i one of 5:00 a.m., police in the house advised one nail down, multiple rounds spent. the mail, likely james closs. later at one. later at 106 sam, please advise the door has been kicked in. the mail he was down answered the door. a short while later police advise two subjects down unresponsive. be sure violate a run sure violate around 4:00 a.m., 13-year-old daughter is at visually listed at the missing

juvenile. right now the sheriff is pleading with the public to help them get to know the family better, writing an online post in part if you've spent time with members of the family recently or if you've ever had a misunderstanding with a closs family or know someone who has please call the tip line. one week after someone got into the home and killed two people and potentially affected their 13-year-old daughter, does the extra sellout their right now. eric: what a horrible story. thank you so much. >> a preview of the 2020 presidential race. joe biden in the key battleground state at the same time holding dueling rallies. the latest in the campaign trail in the direct matchup. to exit the landmark nuclear treaty. how the white house is responding about that next.

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eric: president trump says the u.s. both drove in the decades-old nuclear treaty with russia. the president accusing moscow of violating the agreement that bans certain kinds of intermediate nuclear missiles. gillian turner is more the development from washington. reporter: afternoon, eric. president trump said they they we make with what's been in place for 30 years. he told reporters yesterday he's tired of playing by the rules. >> we are the ones who stayed in the agreement that would've honored the agreement for russia has not appeared unfortunately honor the agreement. we are going to terminate the agreement. we're going to pull out. traded his repair to relaunch an

arms race. >> so we have a tremendous amount of money to play with our military 700 billion. so we are going to terminate the agreement and we are going to develop the weapons. >> president reagan and gorbachev signed on to the imf in december 1987. a landmark move intended to force both countries to eliminate ground launch ballistic and cruise missiles from their arms missile. since then the u.s. has accused the russian government of multiple breaches. most recently in 2014 president of undecided russian test in every cruise missile. at the time he chose not to withdraw from the treaty due to heavy foreign pressure. european leaders i believe the u.s. withdrawal would immediately kickstart an arms race. at least some lawmakers definitely don't think would be a good idea. >> i spent an hour with gorbachev a couple months ago and they still regard this reduction of nuclear arms in the disaster that would be nuclear war. i don't want to see another

nuclear arms race with russia or any other country. >> the chairman of the foreign relations committee says all of the president tough talk could be part of a broader strategy. >> on his way to russia. this could be somewhat like the fact that they were going to end nafta ended up negotiating some small changes and it looks like camino, it's going to be expanded. this could be just a precursor to try to get russia to come into compliance. reporter: as of now, national security visible than slated to meet with sir jay laugher of week. he thinks acted to raise the price active u.s. withdrawal at that meeting. eric: yeah, the russians moved those missiles right up to the eastern european border, which has prompted all this your gillian cameron thank you. arthel: eric and gillian kyl let's bring in john jordan at stanford's hoover institute thanks for joining us.

>> thanks for having me. >> is this really about russia or is this more about china? talk about the strategy. >> it's about both peered russians have in violation of the inf treaty with employment of the cruise missiles are not the never buy them to dawn the political leverage by their military hand with regard to the europeans. as you point out it's also about china. the inf treaty with bilateral treaty between the united states and russia and china was not a signatory may have been moved have been moving ahead of development and deployment of its class. >> so can this work in the end? are there risks were president trump dubs the u.s.? >> well, there's always risk when you talk about nuclear weapons. this is with regard to new arms race. that really is nonsense. basically the u.s. has to do is forward deployed existing systems. the tomahawk submarine cruise missiles could be war has been

deployed in the baltic and achieve much the same result. this is really about confronting russia in making russia pay a political price. the nicely. the nicely i woke up to this morning was the last of the air coming out of the russian collusion narrated in d.c. and the connection to the european foreign policy establishment. arthel: what about russia? i was putin going to see this any of the really big heart, because his weak economy, cannot weak economy finance a forcible fight? what can russia do it right once? >> rushes park is larger than its bite. america thinks russia is bigger than it is. the russian economy is smaller than that of texas and conventional forces are very asked unfit to develop and maintain it for them to develop this type of system and cheat on the treaty as relatively cheaper than in the idea is to get a stronger hand with europe. president trump is giving a public rap on the knuckles here amazing travel -- russia has

been forced to pay a price for their behavior. transfer overall, what is happening to the triangular relationship between the u.s., russia and china. >> i'm not sure. i may be a misnomer to call a triangular. we have are different as with russia and china. china houses to our problems with russia. i'm not sure if there's necessarily an access and develop there. arthel: opinions against the middle, you've got -- china wants to be the big dog with a big dragon if you will and they went outside the u.s. at the their goal. >> they do. china is moving along with the modernization and expansion of the military. this is part of countering that. withdrawing from the inf treaty enables us to ploy systems and bomb another places to counter chinese six-inch and in the south china sea. eric: lastly, one of the lawmakers intimated this could

be his best to get president putin to comply in some sort of way immediately and if you think that the case, what would you do? how does he respond with the president is trying to do here? >> at may very well be that. when you're engaging in negotiations with anybody about ways to leverage. calling the russians out on their behavior and making them pay a price, you are creating a leverage and maybe some sort of broader agreement with russia that president trump is taking to achieve. by making russia pay a price time he's creating leverage -- arthel: what the price? >> this is embarrassing to russia. he's raising the ante so their behavior is being exposed and they may have to spend more money or devote more resources to this than they thought they were. transfer you have to leave it

there, but their behavior has been exposed and he keeps going. he been president putin. president trump is right there watching and i suspect he won't let untrammeled that continue. john jordan, nice to have you. >> i'm going to build up the republican nominee. they're all talented men and women and i will let everybody in the states know what happened to know what happens if you put the democratic party in charge of this country. you're rewarding mob rule, undercutting the rule of law. don't give these people power. >> midterm elections are ruling on the clock is ticking. lindsey graham this morning on "sunday morning futures" talking about campaigning for republican candidates. it was the weekend of campaigning coast-to-coast. yesterday president trump and former vice president joe biden held ruling rallies in nevada. that's where we vote for the election beginning yesterday. >> this election is literally

driven politics. no matter how old or young you are you never participate in an election that is as consequential as this election nationally and locally. >> democrats produce moms. republicans produce jobs. [cheers and applause] this november, go for jobs, not mobs. eric: jack connects what's taking place on the campaign trail this weekend. >> good morning, eric. midterms are critical to both parties with lawmakers retiring this year and historical trends join the party in power will boost seats in the midterm. republicans run the offense trying to prevent democrats from making any surprise deals you a native of 23 seats in the house to take control. right now democrats hold 193 seats, republicans hold 235. as for the senate a closer for 49 dems and the one republicans but a senate seat is up for

grabs. former president joe biden -- vice president joe biden rallying for democratic candidate in the house and the senate as well as the gubernatorial race. as early voting was taking off. posted in part by a culinary union to 26 with 57,000 casino and hospitality workers which is a different snickering 2016 in the state song for hillary clinton. they destroyed american values will cover sentry saying this is not your father's republican party. >> i'm tired of democrats walking around like whoa is me, things are so bad, what are we going to do? i've had it up to here. we are better positioned than a nation in the world took on the 21st century, to own it. >> republicans have been working just as hard as democrats to maintain control and putting special attention behind not just the house and senate races,

but also campaign for governor. republican ron desantis a surprise primary winner warned voters not to race a socialist agenda by voting for andrew dillon. he warned floridians his opponent was a moonbeam radical democrat. >> last year they had a record number of murders in tallahassee's history and is aligned themselves with radical groups. he signed a pledge denigrating the police. that album we need a governor. >> both parties have been working to nationalize local races saying it's not just can assurance of the state, but the entire country. >> a big day in a couple of weeks. transfer local deputy attorney general rod rosenstein say when he appears before congress in a closed-door classified session over his alleged comments about those secretly recording of the president. our next guest says lawmakers might actually ask questions and

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talking about possibility of wearing a wire when he meets with the president of the united states. president trump has been satisfied and said he wants them to continue as his number two at the department of justice but the congress has oversight on stability so we're going to ask you about those questions along with many other things. sure into what can we expect? former justice department joins us now. rosenstein has denied he was serious saying he was making a joke. do you expect he will say that when he testified and will it be challenged? >> sns. the bottom line is anyone but knows rod rosenstein knows it's incredibly unlikely he would've sat there and seriously entertain the amendment as the basis for a two against the president. it's all about incapacitation like a president undergoing surgery or in a coma. there's no way on gods green earth who would've ever thought about or seriously thought of wearing a wire to a meeting with

the president. this has got the fingerprints of a hit job by candy mccabe echoed by "the new york times" that mankind is followed by some portions of congress. they'll ask questions about it. i expect he'll deny making those comments, perhaps making light of those comments like what would you have me do, where a buyer. but there's no way that there's going to be any credible information that suggests he is lying. eric: and why do you blame and the mccabe? >> is then follow reporting that said yes james baker, the general counsel of the fbi released a page where the combination of people reported this bug. mccabe has had problems from the get go. he insisted on being on the clinton probe even though his wife obtained top of her campaign funding. he's been found to have like four times by the inspector general and just the first of two reports will probably touch on.

he has a pending criminal case in d.c. or a criminal referral and if you add to that is trying to sell a book, the new phenomenon disgraced fbi leadership. not a very credible source that comes to bring some towards resins in. >> bigger larger issue has to do with the fisa warrants. turns out he signed the fourth and final one. will they get answers on the dossier in effect a gps fusion paid for it, that the dnc and hillary clinton campaign paid for it in the judge's would not specifically told about that. we may not even know because it's being hauled in the classified setting. >> right. it certainly sounds like i'll have more to ask then "the new york times" article and those are legitimate issues depressed at not just for rosenstein, but all the way through the fbi ranks people like home and mccabe and agent peter stzrok lisa page and what was said to

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arthel: facebook is gearing up for midterm election and taking can set up fake information. claudia cowan has the details. tell us how. >> following the serious election meddling that happened two years ago, facebook says it is, quote, laser focused on cracking down on fake news and bogus accounts and to that end, face up to showing off its new war room. it can meeting space for security expert, data scientists and engineers are working around the clock ahead of the midterms. we saw the monitor and report on facebook, is graham in real-time to root out bad actors trying to mislead users about who they are and what they're doing. weasley fight efforts to voters in brazil after a flurry of those same elections ever been postponed for a day because of protests. and bogus content is fired from the company will either take it

down or reduce it distribution and let users know what the true story is so they're better informed. and not just facebook removed a network of suspected russian link pages under clocked over a billion fake accounts from farming. a lesson learned the hard way after his io mark zuckerberg acknowledged the russian agent abused social media platform in the 2016 election. thousands of fake news stories were posted every few hours in front of congress have vowed to tighten security. facebook works to regain the public's trust. it's really a step in the right direction. they spoke admit they can't catch every malicious page or post, but company officials say having been working together side by side improves the odds of removing fake news before any real harm is done. arthel: thank you very much. eric and i will be back at 4:00 eastern. eric: see you then.

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