p.m. on the fox news channel. we will always be fair and balanced. we are not the destroy trump media. laura ingraham is next. see you monday. >> ♪ >> ♪ >> tucker: this is a fox news alert. the man suspected of mailing dozens of pipe bombs to media figures has been arrested and charged in the state of florida. cesar sayoc jr. has been in charge of five federal counts and could face decades in prison if he gets convicted of those. fox news l.a. miramar, florida. phil? >> the man accused of mailing political pipe bomb packages to 15 high-profile democrats over the past four days is behind bars tonight, including two copresidents receiving these

packages which has put the nation in a chaotic watch for the suspect for three days. 56-year-old cesar sayoc described by those who know him as a hateful, disturbed man with political views seen walking from the fbi miami building to an suv being transported to down to miami's detention center. 56-year-old sayoc faces five federal counts including illegal bailing of explosives and making threats to former presidents. if convicted on each, he faces 48 years in federal prison for the rest of his life. suddenly the fbi made the arrest at an auto zone parking lot in broward county. that revealed the man's very unique band which he had been living in placard with dozens upon dozens of ideological stickers and decals, including one of president trump rising from the flames of a burning

american flag and a hillary clinton face in the cross hairs. that van covered with a blue tarp and escorted under heavy guard, all broadcasted live on national tv. this afternoon from washington, the attorney general said any political zealot who turns violent of any stripe will pay heavily. >> we will bring the full force of law to anyone who attempts to use threats, intimidation, and outright violence. we will find you. we will prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law. >> federal investigators suspected the package bombs may have come from the south florida postal sorting center and overnight, sure enough, after evacuating the building, fbi, miami police found bob number 11 addressed to democratic senator cory booker who was there but not yet sent to his

office. sayoc has a history going back numerous years that includes a 2002 threat to use a bomb and a 2014 shoplifting case. those put his fingerprints in the national database and that helps fbi agents make a match to a figure brett brown on the package sent to california's maxine waters. >> tucker: phil keating in florida. thank you, phil. former secret service agent joins us today. dan, this is always true, not exactly what we expected. when this man is apprehended, he turns out to be a middle-aged male stripper that identifies as an american indian. these bombs may or may not have been operative. what do we know about this story? that we didn't know yesterday? what conclusions can we draw from the fact we have right now? >> i can say i've worked protective intelligence cases in

the secret service for many years which of the cases we investigate their cases, basically. out of the new york office, which was very busy, the pattern here is not that unusual. i've discussed this on fox a couple of times before, tucker. when you see movies like "in the light a fire," people are influenced by what happens in hollywood, you see a target similarly focused on one subject. with "taxi driver," that's not the way it works in the real world. what you see is pretty covered with what you saw with the accused attacker today which we call target shifting where they pick multiple targets at the same time. that's more common in the real world. from our perspective it's indicative of a greater danger than that one person who focuses on the one -- stalks the one person. >> tucker: sure. what do you make of the fact that none of these devices exploded? i want to be clear that doesn't minimize the terror they destroy

and speier, it's horrifying. does it tell us something that they didn't go off. was he in the next bomb maker? what can we conclude? >> old lead two explanations on it. he intended them, as you say to inspire terror, no less devious as he said. but obviously less deadly. the second exclamation number which i believe is more plausible in this case, he just was completely inept, and the word i think used is inaccurate. he was entire, completely inept. the facts of this case, thankfully, i say that in a positive way, the mistakes in this case is incredible. simple the spelling of names to see and then where john brennan doesn't even work, the use of tape? that's how they get fingerprint fingerprints. tape. that's how police officers get

get -- it's an amateur hour operation, i don't think he intended these things not to go off. i think he was really bad at this if the accusations are correct. >> tucker: if this man did what he is accused of doing, the profile is what you would expect. again, this is a man in his mid-50s who identifies as seminole indian and has worked apparently for decades as a male stripper. you typically think of crimes like this as being committed by young men. he's not. neither was the shooter in las vegas. are we wrong in thinking that mass killing is typically inspired or carried out by young people? >> well, in this case, tucker, i would attribute a lot of this and i've seen this in some of the investigations i have conducted were mail was used two

narcissism, it may be a play here. i mean, extreme narcissism. i be looking at the mirror and coming your hair. these are allegations, of course, but he was a steroid user, obsessed with working out. you are the guy to turn this around? it's actually not uncommon and target shifting is important. that was a bull's-eye to me that this person was a bigger danger than he was letting on if we had found evidence that they were targeting multiple people at the same time. it's not just the quantity of people, it's the fact they are so obsessed with doing something that they are not willing to focus on one person, they'll get anyone. the profile is pretty serious. >> tucker: it's a very weird story. very weird. finding out more. thanks, dan, very much. good to see you. >> yes, sir. >> tucker: thousands of central american migrants making

their way to our southern border to claim asylum. meanwhile the city of san francisco, which is completely out of control and filthy, wants to let illegal aliens vote in some local elections. that will make things better. that's next. the president meanwhile rally supporters in charlotte, north carolina, as we speak. we are monitoring that rally and will take you there live if news occurs. >> look at this crowd. it's crazy. [cheers and applause]

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>> tucker: the president threaten to close the u.s.-mexico border and cut aid to various central american countries in response to the massive caravan of migrants make its way slowly up to mexico. secretary general jim mattis also ordered 800 troops in anticipation of their arrival but roberto hernandez is an immigration advocate in san francisco said that he's happy the migrants are coming. thanks very much for coming on. i don't expect to convince you to change your views on immigration. we've talked many times. i know what they are paired but i applaud you being more honest than most people are saying saying out loud what you really want. tell me the justification for this group coming here is that if they wanted a pile asylum, they could apply. are they claiming they are

refugees fleeing a war? if sore, what war? what is the justification of this? >> good evening. first of all, let's go to our history. >> no, let's not. let's go to the question. >> look at all the europeans that came here -- this was a native american and europeans came here. >> you've demonstrated a -- i just want you to ask my history right now. can we just stick to the question? what is the justification, what is the legal justification of these people coming to the border and that the u.s. embassy? >> if you look at the role of the united states in central america, in nicaragua, honduras, guatemala, in other countries in latin america, the united states has promoted wars to protect corporate interests and in a lot of these countries.

you have a lot of people who have been affected by these wars and it's cause poverty and a lot of these countries. currently, there is a political climate in a lot of these countries and people are coming here looking for refugee -- be one i'm going to try to take you seriously -- >> the united nations -- >> nothing the new united nations to me. i'm trying to take you -- the first caravan is coming from honduras. what wars are you specifically talking about the united states promoted and when did that war and my? what are you talking about specifically? specifically look >> specifically look at the of the u.s. government in honduras.

>> tucker: what war are you talking about? >> let me ask you this. do you know of any involvement in the u.s. in honduras? >> tucker: what you are saying you don't really know what you are talking about, but you are throwing out -- >> you have a show just to talk about -- >> tucker: roberto, i'm trying... i'm asking you specifically what war in honduras are you talking about that the united states inspired that justifies this migrant caravan? when did that war and my? what year? what are you talking about or do you not know? >> i do. let's look at the role of the military of the u.s. currently in honduras. >> tucker: but you said there is a war. so you are totally ignorant of the history of honduras but you are lecturing us about our

responsibility to let the people in because of a war that we started but you can't tell us what war or what year it ended? i think that's what you are saying? >> not only that, but it's the involvement of the u.s. in honduras and central america. >> tucker: obviously history is not your subject. i'm not -- >> united nations is currently the caravan. why would they be supporting and helping the people? >> tucker: i can't imagine why the u.n. does a lot of things. >> the u.s. should stop and let the people come here. >> tucker: let's see if you can answer this. san francisco has now announced that illegal aliens, people who have no right to be here, will be allowed to vote in local school board elections. you live in the city and think this is a great idea. do you think americans who sneak into other peoples' countries should be allowed to vote in their elections? >> let's look at how many white

people live in mexico. the mexican government doesn't harass them. >> tucker: are they allowed to vote in elections? >> look how many people did not vote in this last election. look. look at the numbers. >> tucker: okay. i would say as a performance artist you are talented, but i want one straight answer. do americans who sneak in other people's countries without permission allowed -- do they have a right to vote in those countries' elections? do i have a right to sneak into mexico and announced that i get to vote there and if you don't let me, you are a rapist? is that a human right that i possess? >> in san francisco, these individuals that are being allowed to vote are only voting for the election, for the board of education. >> another question unanswered. >> these people should have the right to vote specifically for

those who are going to make policies and decisions that affect their children. >> tucker: so i give you simple questions. couldn't come up with an answer. text me later if those answers come to you. roberto, i appreciate it. thank you very much. he's a senior fellow at the hoover institution in the bay area and he joins us tonight. so it does raise, i think, tell me if i'm overstating the importance of this, but california allowing illegal aliens to vote in the school board elections could be written off as it's just a school board, but philosophically is that different from letting them vote in any other election? >> well, it's the beginning of the erosion of the federal electoral laws that we saw with sanctuary cities. it's part of the message that we are sending, if you have 500 jurisdictions where immigration law doesn't apply and you start allowing people to vote in local and maybe state and essentiallyy federal it sends message to these caravans there's a ready 22 million people who came

illegally, there is another 40 million who came illegally. and in a place where if you get across illegally you'll be able to function as a citizen. they the caravan people have a t more strategic assessment than we do. the governments of central america and mexico get $60 billion in their remittances. they want it. employers, it's a boom economy. they need cheap labor. the identity politics as your guest illustrated, they want them. the only people who want to uphold the law are the ordinary voters without a lot of clout. i think they understand there is only two ways to stop them once they get here, tucker. you either you have to have a wall or use force. a hundred soldiers as we saw a border patrol as the crash they will not stop them. you need three divisions. we don't have a wall. the optics of using tear gas or rubber bullets will be as vast as children being separated and that's what they are counting o.

what we need is what every country in the world throughout history -- saudi arabia has a 500-mile wall, israel has a wall, greece, europe, that changes the dialectic and it changes them becoming a physical barrier and they have to become an aggressor and the people who might get through our young males who are easily more deportable than women and children. we say to them, this is our walkable we don't want to oppress them, stay on your side. if we don't have a wall we have to be preemptive and how to use force and they count on that. i think that's -- i'm not optimistic. >> tucker: i'm not optimistic at all but i also wonder if this is not the end but the beginning. these -- by a recent historical standards, things are relatively peaceful in central america. what if there really is a revolution or another civil war or a natural disaster in any of these countries? we potentially get an enormous

wave, like, a real wave? tends, thousands of people coming to the border. >> i think we are. i live in a state where one of every four people is not born in the united states and only six to are legal. this is a time where we rejected assimilation, integration, the melting pot, i adopted the identity politics. we are getting into a tribal society. one final thing about your speaker. he said the western civilization in california is an artificial construct, but they have many alternatives of indigenous people. they can make a left turn and go south into oaxaca and join into a -- they are going into an artificial civilization according to a speaker that they should to test because it's antithetical to the native american experience. when we formed california. there were only 15,000 mexican nationals in this huge state. it was almost empty. this myth that there were

millions of indigenous people and they were displaced? this so-called "white europeans" is historically inaccurate. we didn't have these discussions when we believed in the melting pot and had secure borders and legal measures, diverse immigration. >> tucker: of course. many mexican nationals are descendants of mexican conquistadors. democrats have been promising america a blue wave four months. are they going to get it? some of their wackier candidates may be slowing that wave down. lisa boothe has been taking a close look at these candidates and she joins us after the break. also monitoring the presidents rally going in charlotte, north carolina. stay tuned. >> and mack the visa that we talked about, and chain migrati

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will lead to a metaphorical blue wave. the only thing that stands in the way, the quality of some of their candidates. it's low. law professor katie porter, democrat running for congress in a basically republican leaning district in orange county california. porter submitted to a progressive activist group and she shows she supports the creation of "the department of peace building, dude" as long as reparations for african-americans and left-wing ideas that most people think are stupid. and meanwhile >> all: -- lost the endorsement after the members revolted against her candidacy. it has been caught faking key aspects of her biography, calling her state quote the meth lab of democracy, welcome to arizona, and set on a radio show said that she did not care if americans join the tile man.

lisa boothe is a senior fellow at the independent writer's voice and joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. first to this candidate in orange county, california. is she in step with the voters of this district, you would say? >> no, she's absently not. that's what's so crazy about the fact that it's so competitive because as you mentioned this is oren county. clinton did win district by 5.4%, but this is a republican leaning district. but katie porteous said that is her mentor. this is someone she admires. planned parenthood, antigun group, every progressive organization you can think of. she is out of step with her district. she supports bernie sanders' single-payer system that would give health care to illegal immigrants. supported california becoming a century state so you go through the policy she supports that entirely inconsistent with the district she's seeking to

represent. >> can be a lot more specific about the department of peace building? would there be a peace building seal team that creates peace by force? did she put meat on those bones? >> it doesn't sound like a very dangerous group to be a part of, though. unlike seal team six you go through rigorous training -- i don't think -- b >> tucker: it seems like a big deal in the arizona senate race for any professional union to withdraw in the endorsement is close to an election. how does this happen with chris instead lynn? >> this is the thing, she's been running with the endorsement to bolster horror law enforcement and also on immigration issues, border security. this is a big deal for her. the group put out the endorsement and found that the members were not so happy about it so now they are deciding to be neutral in this race, i think

the border security issue is big because she's also been part of this recall no more deaths that helped and aided illegal immigrants trying to cross the border and this group has said about u.s. border patrol, they engaged in systematic torture. this is a group that's been critical of border -- also compared illegal immigrant death to that of truth dying's of troops dying. she's running from all the comments that she's been trying to position herself as a moderate in the senate race. >> tucker: those remarks, comparing the deaths were really far out. i don't think we are shading those are taking them out of context. that's pretty unbelievable. lisa, thank you. you been on this for us and i appreciate that. >> thanks for having me, tucker. >> tucker: does your right to

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and austrian for suggesting that mohammed's marriage to a 6-year-old constituted a form of pedophelia traditionally they would have been, but things have changed now for the european court of human rights disagrees with her. affirm her conviction, said they need to balance her "quite of freedom of expression" to the right of those to have their religious feelings protected. a columnist for a "reason" magazine and he joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. as a factual matter, did i miss that any of that? are those the facts of the case? >> those are the facts of the case. it's pretty shocking. in 2009, this woman whose name is not being given out in public, she gave a seminar in austria in which she said that mohammed behave like a pedophile and charged with being

inciting -- the european court of human rights has decreed that the court was right to punish her for making these comments and furthermore the european call human rights establishes president across europe that we've now effectively warrant all europeans your forbidden to make these comments about mohammed. >> tucker: a standard that has long prevailed in the islamic world, you can be punished for criticizing mohammed, it's not a law in europe. >> exactly right. what we are witnessing in europe is the return of blasphemy law through the backdoor. people fought long and hard in many european countries for the right to question religion, to mock god's, to make fun of prophets. this is a long hard fight for liberty. it's now being overturned by these new forms of blasphemy law which really are rehabilitating

medieval laws which tells us certain things about religious gods and profits not allowed to say. i think it's terrifying to attack on freedom of i think it's terrifying to attack on fr. >> tucker: viewers are free to attack the bishop of canterbury. the first vanguard are journalists, that's the role in society, but my sense is the european sense has not acted like the house is burning down to this. they have not raised a cry over it. or have i missed that? >> they haven't. not yet. i'm optimistic that something might happen because this is a pretty extreme case. the problem we face in europe, of course, is that islam has offered the kind of protections that no one else enjoys. we have a word, islamophobia's him, for any fear -- there is an

unculture of conformism and censorship around the issue of islam in particular which means that unfortunately many generalists probably will not take to task this court ruling the way they should. what we have to recognize is freedom of speech by its very definition includes the freedom to offend and what the court has done, it has said that people's religious feelings trump the people of speech. i think that's a really dangerous road to go down on. because nobody is feeling should trump the right of anyone's else to say what they believe. >> tucker: and of course. this is a much longer conversation which we can have, but it's not a failure to defend speech but it's also a continent wide self-hatred. what people are saying is the culture, our culture, should bow down before another culture, minority culture from another part of the world -- a healthy society would not take this

position, right? a society of self-hatred? >> that's absolutely right we are demolishing one of the key principles of modern europe. in the light of the enlightenment and the renaissance, europe launch itself forward and started to believe in freedom, choice, the right to express yourself. we are we are backtracking on those great historic gains and we are allowing a new form of censorship to come through. i also think it's a very dangerous ruling. we have many radical islamists in europe, and the court has now basically said it's impermissible for people to say this thing about mohammed. what message does that send to these people? it tells them that if they hear someone say this, maybe they can punish them. >> tucker: exactly. >> exactly in the way they did with charlie hebdo. this is green lighting violent responses that are critical to islam. >> tucker: and the scene use

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elect a white man in 2020. nothing that would harm the democrats more in that phrase. time magazine did not tell you that. they did not know for months because they sat on the story. meanwhile, creepy porn lawyer became a national figure. when creepy porn lawyer and his client accused brett kavanaugh of dissipating in a long series of public gang rapes, remember that, produced a statement that seemed to back up some of her claims. you vaguely repair remember this. weeks later, the woman recanted the story to nbc news reporters. she quoted that cpl "twisted her words." cbs news had information that undermined accusation against brett kavanaugh. it would be nice to know that before the vote, but they didn't tell anybody.

are you surprised? only if you imagine nbc news was still a news organization and not a particularly clumsy arm of the democratic party. which is they are because it was nbc that leaked the axes hollywood tapes to "the washington post" before the general to influence the outcome of that election and -- they did all that. it wasn't enough for creepy porn lawyer. even with nbc's assistance, his client stormy daniels was ordered to pay donald trump's legal fees. not a law firm that he runs is facing eviction for failing to pay his rent. he still wanted the best known democratic candidates for president, though. how is he likely to do? chris ogden is a progressive -- he joins us from long island for

a creepy porn lawyer update. >> thank you. >> tucker: here's my theory. creepy porn lawyer makes baseless charges against matt cavanaugh, charges him in participating a rape, and not one democrat criticizes him until he endorses the idea of a white man running for president until all democrats say this is over. why didn't anybody note that before? >> hold on a minute. i have criticized him on this network several times and said he'll never be the democratic nominee for president. i love his haircut and it's fantastic and very efficient but i've criticized him politically. i think he's the reason why susan collins voted for brett kavanaugh because i thought the sweatnik allegations were outrageous and hard to prove, that said he had an affidavit

from a client. he was not defaming kavanaugh. it was the client. look, there are lots of problems -- >> tucker: i agree with you until they are. i can't let you away with the lawyer dodds that it's the client. it was creepy porn lawyer who took the deposition who was the vehicle by which the rest of us knew that these allegations were made. by the way, these allegations are taken with dead seriousness by every news organization in the nation, that they show, and democrats never say, wait a minute, 10 gang rapes in a row? democrats stood and they nodded, that's very serious. >> a lot of people took at less than serious and a lot of people dismissed it and thought this was adding something to what was some very credible allegations against kavanaugh. look, we call them creepy porn lawyer because he represented a

star who we know was paid did not discuss her affair with the president of the united states. >> tucker: can i just ask you a question? she took money for a voluntary relationship in exchange for not talking about it. we used to call that extortion. but now we are totally cool with it and we are blaming the guy who had to pay the extortion money? how does that work exactly? are we for that now? >> we actually don't know exactly how the money was proposed. in fact, it could've been proposed by the person who wanted to cover it up, not necessarily the porn star. we never got to the bottom of that. the president's lawyers settled the matter so i think they were happy with the arrangement. >> tucker: they didn't want to talk about it so they must be guilty, but you are totally cool if people have a consensual, and relationship and one of them gives money enough to talk about

it -- >> i'm not. >> tucker: where is that? >> i am not in favor of extortion. i was just pointing out your calling him a porn lawyer. we know why we call him a porn lawyer. we have to know why we call him a porn lawyer. it's not like he was trying to get more money from the porn station. >> tucker: creepy porn lawyer. thank you so much for clarifying all that. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: former truck campaign manager george papadopoulos says he was framed by the fbi seeking to undo a plea deal he entered with robert mueller. ed henry has the latest on that tonight. >> tucker, i was there on "fox & friends" when george papadopoulos dubbed us in this exclusive with brian kilmeade flat out charging he was framed by the fbi that he may -- she my

pursue a tile what he calls a entrapment case. when he pleaded guilty to like to the fbi, this would damage president trump, instead papadopoulos was sentenced to 14 days in prison. an emerging from his testimony in capitol hill thursday the clearing he's with how all of this turned out. a far cry from last october. people in the media were the clearing his cooperation with mueller would be bigger than the indictments against paul manafort although trump aides said papadopoulos was a low-level aid. krista lizza of cn," what papadopoulos already admitted to doing, lying to -- is a very big deal. a bigger deal than the dozen cans laid out in the mena

manafort indictment. back in december, "the new york times" published a story saying it was papadopoulos' 2016 meeting with an australian diplomat that logic the fbi's probe without any help from the clinton finance.ca. the fbi did not talk to the diplomat until the counterintelligence probe was already lots. and there was a code name, . >> it's suspicious that when he drops this information on me. >> unsolicited! >> they want to figure out info on this particular topic. it seems like it was some sort of sting opportunity gone bad to be quite honest with you. >> republicans on the hill believes that suggest special counsel was launched based on trumped up charges. democrats continue to insist no,

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there has been bulling, harassment and isolation by many focus i supported in their campaigns. >> tucker: democrats don't believe me. she was right. just yesterday the chairman of the minnesota democratic party put it this way: "i don't believe her." it's time to revise the building all women rule. democrats believe all women who are useful to them. the rest are ignored and attack. back monday night for the show that is the [national anthem] ♪

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