make it easier for people to get out of there and they did. despite that eight people dead and three police officers shot. a horrific day in pittsburgh. leland vittert and gillian turner takes it from here. >> and a fox news alert as we look at images from pittsburgh, pennsylvania. the suburb there where police now say there are multiple fatalities after a shooter opened fire at a synagogue and police say they now have within suspect in custody. this unfolding over the past couple of hours on shubot, the jewish holy day at the tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. 9:45 a.m. eastern is when services were set to begin there and shortly thereafter we started hearing initial reports of the shots being fired. continuing fox news coverage here from washington, nice to be

with you on that saturday. a saturday that will undoubtedly be remembered in sadness for years to come. i'm leland vittert. >> good morning, i'm gillian turner. we're hearing reports from our afail yachts that the shooter did open fire during the prayer service. let's take this straight out to jacqui heinrich, she has the latest on the story. >> i've been pouring through the reports of local media and listening to updates from police there. here is what we can tell you. it happened in the squirrel hill neighborhood, a largely jewish community. it happened at the tree of life synagogue. the largest conservative congregation in that area, actually formed more than 150 years ago and in 2010 two pittsburgh congregations americaed to form the tree of life congregation. so this is a huge congregation. it happened during the 9:45 a.m. shubot, it's the most attended service of the entire week. we also know from up to local media reports, up to 12 people were shot, eight confirmed dead.

three officers were also shot and hearing that some officers who were responding to the scene were forced to even use their vehicles as a shield. we're hearing that the shooting happened in the basement of the synagogue and people were found both in the atrium and in the basement. we heard from the former president of the synagogue that in the past, security had been an issue for them and they were working with the department of homeland security to try to find ways to secure exits and entrances. so there was a huge police response in that neighborhood while authorities were trying to ascertain whether or not there was only one gunman or if someone may have made it outside of the building. heard just a little while ago that the shooting is now considered to be over, that the suspect surrendered, but it was a very chaotic time. we do have a found bite we got a while ago. the last report from police on the scene, within the last 20 minutes. let's take a listen to that.

>> so at this time the suspect in the shooting is in custody. we have multiple casualties inside the synagogue. we have three officers who have been shot and at this time we have no more information we're clearing the building and trying to figure out if the situation is safe. if there are any more threats inside the building. so that's all we have at this point, the shooter is in custody, multiple casualties, and three officers shot. take it step by step? >> and we know that the governor and senator bob casey are headed to the scene right now. they were pushing to the area and there's a tweet, watching events in pennsylvania unfolding people in squirrel hill should be remain sheltered, looks like

multiple fatalities, beware of active shooter, god bless all. >> we're waiting to learn about the motives behind this. no eyedy has been reported for the shooter, no motive, but we know it's the largest conservative majority synagogue in the squirrel hill neighborhood and has hundreds of jems and waiting for them on the scene there. >> we're learning that this is one building, but four congregations share the building and it happened at 9:45 during prayer service this morning right in the heart of what for jewish families is shabbat service and most were going to spend time with families. >> when you look at the

overview, you can see how densely populated this is, east of downtown pittsburgh and from the video on the ground, you can see the convergence of law enforcement there on two to that sce scene. and there were multiple shootouts listening to the scanner traffic that happened. >> and we know one of those in police custody, the main shooting suspect now has been apprehended. >> live pictures there. there were multiple shootouts with that one suspect, and you think about these police officers who on saturday morning responded and headed to the sound of gunfire and pursued the suspect back up into this building, cornered him and then brought him out as we heard from the police officer there, brought him out alive. we'll wait to hear from police

in terms of what that suspect has been telling them over the past few minutes. this all unfielded quickly when we heard the initial reports of the shooting to now with a suspect in custody and you really have to think as you look there, at that scene, what we don't see is the families rushing to wonder if their loved one is okay. if their loved ones were inside, loved ones were shot and you think about the hundreds of people who would have been at this service and now it is-- >> families on a saturday morning, we don't yet know the profiles of the folks who are part of the congregation who were attending services this morning, but again it's presumably families, which includes elderly, which includes children. so, a very dangerous situation for all of them this morning. hearts obviously go out to the families. i want to bring in someone who can shed some light on to the investigation side of what's now

happening there. and former prosecutor david dipietro joining us live from fort lauderdale, florida. thanks for your time and being flexible. we know we booked you to talk about something entirely different, but thanks for sticking with us. can you tell us what's likely going on behind the scenes right now in terms of law enforcement? we know that local law enforcement were the first responders on the scene, but i can only imagine that now pour soon hereafter we're bringing in state level, bringing in the feds. can you tell me about that process? >> absolutely, on a case like this, it goes from an act of crime to an active crime scene. law enforcement has a tough job. they have a scenario where some of their brothers were wounded or are dead and innocent people are harmed. this is where the seasoned homicide detectives will come in. the ones that come in and secure

the scene. right now, even though it's still a horrible event, police and law enforcement and prosecutors are always realize that they have to seek a criminal conviction, so they go from a crime to seeking a criminal conviction almost instantously once the threat is eliminated. >> david, what is their first goal? now the suspect, we're hearing, the preliminary reports that the suspect is in police custody. so what is their primary goal right now in these crucial minutes after they've got him or her? >> one is to make sure the threat is neutralized. meaning, is there a second person, a second threat? once they know the threat is neutralized, they'll go now into-- before he will get to court, he won't be in court for another 24 to 48 hours where he'll have a lawyer. now they want to seek a confession and usually cases like this as we've seen in the fort lauderdale airport shooting or seen in parkland, there

usually is a confession because people are motivated to do these things for whatever reason, but the spotlight part of it is important. so you'll see a confession that will be sought by seasoned, the best detective they'll have. either whether it will go federal, state, which is yet, there is where early talks start to happen whether the feds want to intervene because it could be a hate crime or whether this is going to be a state prosecuted case. you're looking at the potential of the death penalty because of the innocence and level of hate. so, you're going to see now really seeking a confession and looking at search warrants. so-- >> david, i wanted-- before you move on and sorry to interrupt you. i just want to make sure, when we talk about motive here, it will be a wild, presumably before anything is confirmed. how much weight does the confession does the alleged shooter carry? meaning, if he says this was a hate crime, i hate the jewish people, and this is something that i've been planning in order to seek retribution, do they take him at his word or is there

further investigation that then needs to corroborate anything he, i'm saying he, he or she says? >> right, so it could enhance the penalty. if it's a hate crime and they're seeking the death penalty, that would be an aggregating factor that a jury would want to hear down the road. so, obviously, if he's the shooter and they caught him on the scene, the presumption that he's the person is pretty-- it's there. there's going to be so many witnesses, but the aggravating actor of the hate crime, motivation and things like that still need to be developed by experienced law enforcement and as well as prosecutors through the search warrant process going through his electronic communications and background information to figure out what was the motivation behind this heinous event and crime. >> how important is the individual's, if they have a social media presence, we hear preliminary reports that this suspect does, do they comb through that? you know, painstakingly looking for clues? do they not necessarily count

things that somebody has said on social media as being hugely important? what's the balance? >> i think it's all -- it's the motivation behind it. prosecutors don't need to prove motive. they need to prove that a crime is committed, but juries go down the road and they like to hear the story and usually the motive of the story, why somebody was motivated to commit a heinous act. the other thing that law enforcement is considering, do anybody help the suspect, did anybody supply him weapons, did anybody drive him to the scene, how did he get there? who gave him bullets? did people give him refuge or know about this and not do anything? looking for co-conspirators that assisted in a minor way. as we saw in the pulse shooting, the wife driving her husband to the scene and after. and to see if there were other

people involved in assisting in this criminal act. >> what about, we're hearing law enforcement confirmed to fox news that this is not an active shooter situation any longer. does that mean that they're confident or fairly confident that there aren't other shooters out there coordinating with this shooter or not necessarily? >> i think once law enforcement says that, that he is a big statement so it's probably one that they feel very comfortable in doing that there's not another active shooter or booby traps that were laid or the car he drove in could have a bomb in it. when law enforcement say that, they're saying they've neutralized the threat and going from a crime to a crime scene at this point. we'll learn a lot of information within the next couple of hours. >> thanks for that, david. let's bring in fox contributor and former washington police detective ted williams. he's got insight for us. ted, are you there? >> yes. what is -- from what i've been

told, the shooter may very well may have been injured and has been taken to the hospital and from there, they will take him to the police station, but what is happening is, right now, i understand, they're waiting for the governor and the senator and other officials to arrive in the pittsburgh area and on the scene in order to have a press conference. but now that they've identified who the shooter is, they're immediately going to his place of-- his domicile and they're going to try to determine through his social media and other internet contacts to try to determine what is the motive behind this. we do know that it's alleged that he went in and said something about killing jews. so quite naturally, law enforcement is going to be

working from there, gillian and leland. >> ted, i wanted to zoom out for a second. 12:15 eastern time here and 12:15 in pittsburgh pennsylvania where police there now say that they believe the situation has been contained at the tree of life synagogue, although there have been multiple fatalities, there were at least a couple of shootouts with the suspects before they got him into custody. as of now we know about one suspect that has been arrested. this coming across in the past couple of minutes from the new york police department, the n.y.p.d. deploying heavy weapons team including officers from the critical response command and strategic response team to houses of worship across the city. they end with that saying they don't believe that there is any nexus to new york, but the steps are taken until further information is learned about the events in pittsburgh by the n.y.p.d.

we'll keep the live pictures up of pittsburgh, but clearly, across the country, as it is shabbat for jewish worshippers moving into sunday. for christian worshippers, the n.y.p.d. moving forward this perhaps could not be an isolated incident or protecting against it. >> absolutely, leland. out of abundance of caution, law enforcement agencies throughout this country, i believe, will be sent in law enforcement or to various synagogues in their area because they don't know if this is an isolated incident dealing with a lone wolf or whether there is some kind of a conspiracy with the group throughout the country to create and cause this kind of carnage and havoc. so as a result of that, law enforcement throughout the country, leland, is going to act with abundance of caution. >> ted, what does it tell that

the n.y.p.d. were deployed there. we heard they were deployed to florida in the wake of the pipe bombs the other day. can we glean anything from that? >> it could be very well they're doing it as a precautionary matter, but it also could be, and we've found this where some crazies will call in to the n.y.p.d. or other police stations and make some kind of a statement concerning an incident that -- that has occurred in pittsburgh and as a result of that, law enforcement out of abundance of caution will send law enforcement officers to those various synagogues. >> ted, in terms of what's happening on the ground right now, and the tragedy of this, when you think about families at a religious service on a saturday morning, reports that this was during a bris, one of the holy ceremonies in the

jewish faith, a newborn boy eight days old. when you think about the unfolding tragedy, that is police officers, we seem them walking with heavy weapons and dealing with families that are grieving, families that lost loved ones and families that don't know whether they've lost loved ones, as the scene is being contained, what are police doing to try and identify the victims and let people know, your family member was hurt, your family member was killed, your family member is okay? >> first thing that happens normally in these scenes is the preservation of the crime scene, leland, that's where the medical examiner will be called to the scene and they will start processing the scene. they'll try to identify as many individuals on the scene as they can and what law enforcement will try to do is get information out to the loved ones before the information is provided to the public. this is one reason why you saw earlier the mayor there acting out of abundance of caution just

to let the public know that there have been fatalities at that scene, but have not given any names. so law enforcement are going to work in a very sensitive manner to deal with the injured as well as the ones who are shot and killed. >> all right. ted williams, stand by there. your expertise has been invaluable and we're starting to get reaction now from around the country. we obviously heard from the president on his tweet before he left for some campaign events there, as we look down the street in pittsburgh. these are pictures, obviously, that are on tape, important to know that as we watch some of the more heavily armed members of the police department head into the scene. important to know that these are on tape. as of now, 12:18 eastern, we're told that the situation at the synagogue has been contained. and gillian, talking about

coming on the scene, fbi either beginning to assist or if this becomes a federal hate crime take over the investigation. >> and there will be a tightly, tightly synced operation moving forward between local, state, federal, the intelligence community will become involved. there will be a tremendous move to get everybody on the same page to make sure everybody's got access to the same data set here so that when they probe into the suspect's past, everybody's information is synced with everybody else's. i want to bring you now some breaking news. we were getting fresh tweets on the shooting from the u.s. government, from the administration, vice-president pence has tweeted out, we're monitoring reports of shooting at tree of life synagogue in pittsburgh. praying for the fallen, the injured, all the families impacted and our courageous first responders. god bless them all. also the governor of pennsylvania, tom wolf taken to twitter, he writes these

senseless acts of violence are not who we are as americans. my thoughts are focused on the victims, their families and making sure law enforcement has every resource they need. and also getting this from the first lady. she says my heart breaks over the news out much pittsburgh. the violence needs to stop. may god bless, guide, and unite the united states of america. a similar message to the one the president delivered in florida in response to the domestic terrorism attacks-- or attempt terrorism attacks the first of the week and the president and first lady calling for unity. i want to bring in david on the phone, a former dea agent and expert. do i have you? >> you have me loud and clear. >> you're seeing the live pictures right now. tell us about the picture that's painted right now, what we're seeing on the tv screen? can you glean any information from the folks you're seeing on the ground, from the types of vehicles you're seeing on the

ground? tell us your-- give us an insider's perspective here, you know at this point it's a crime scene investigation. the shooter is in custody and all the victims who can be cared for are being cared for. now, unfortunately, it's being handled as a crime scene and that's what you're seeing developing now, so, i mean, anytime there's a situation like this, you're going to have a very detailed crime scene investigation with photographs taken and evidence taken because now we're going from the initial response, which was stop the shooter, to now get the evidence and make sure who perpetrated the attack will be in jail the rest of his life. >> we know law enforcement says the scene is not shut down, there's a lot of activity there, but the shooter is in custody. thisser' not describing it as an active shooter situation anymore. that sounds like good news. that good news to you?

do you read into that that there isn't a second shooter or other coordinated effort? >> oh, if you look at what you see on the screen, if people are milling about, there is no active situation, they've secured the scene and now they're letting traffic by, but you wouldn't see ancillary individuals, you wouldn't see the coroner, the fire personnel, the emergency medical personnel they would never approach the scene until the scene is secure. as you mentioned quite accurately, it is now a secure scene. no longer active in the criminal investigative stage. >> does this mean these folks are relatively safe now, out of imminent danger? >> yeah, there's no i am meant-- imminent danger. you would never see those people there. the scene is secure and these people are safe. >> we're also told that the

first thing law enforcement did when they broke on the scene was to secure the surrounding environment to make sure that everybody who lives nearby or works nearby sheltered in place. tell us about that. what that means. >> it's not exactly shelter in place what you're looking for. always remember that even a modestly powered firearm common ly handgun, they're going to penetrate household construction materials god forbid if you're in a situation where people tell you to stay inside. you don't want to stay to the side of the house, you go to the basement or somewhere with cover. a bullet can go through sheet rock. you want to go to a police somewhere more secure in your home, your office or in your store and to make sure that if

the bullet did strike the side of the building or hit a window that you were not in harm's way. >> certainly they don't want anyone to leave their home or be out on the street, right? >> yeah, until the scene is secured, anyone in the immediate area is in grave danger, so actually the first thing, i don't know-- the first thing they do is make contact. make with the shooter. gone are the days where you surround and wait for emergency services to show up. the now the-- ments david, what do you make of the multiple shootouts with the first responding officer and then multiple shootouts with the s.w.a.t. team and then this suspect surrendering. >> may have very well ran out of ammunition, that's certainly possible. i mean, he clearly, he clearly fought back. you know, people need to understand that-- what does that tell you about

the mindset of this individual? >> he was there not only to take innocent lives, but unlike many active shooters who kill themselves when police arrive, he fought back. so this is a little different. usually, usually when these scenes end with the arrival of the police will stir suicide, for example, in this case the shooter involved the officers and engaged them and apparently three officers were seriously wounded. >> david, we appreciate your insight here. thank you very much and with that, we will bring back in ted williams, formerly of d.c. police and other federal agencies as well. ted, as you look at these scenes, we saw the fbi jackets there, obviously, it's a saturday morning so an it takes a little while for them to begin to bring in the amount of federal resources that typically come into the situation like this. we're now roughly two, two and a half hours since the first

reports of shots fired. how long are we to think before police have a fairly good picture of the shooter, the suspect-- obviously, the suspect, but perhaps more importantly, the victims that are able to get these families that are all wondering if their family members who head to the tree of life synagogue this morning to pray, are alive? >> first of all, what happens under these circumstances, leland, is there's a rapid response team in local law enforcement as well as federal law enforcement that respond to these scenes and each and every law enforcement officer there has a specific job to do as well as i said earlier, the coroner, who is trying to identify the dead and law enforcement officers who are trying to identify the various injured victims there. so, in fact, that they can get information out to their

relatives, who are deeply concerned at this stage and so, i would have to believe again that very shortly here there will be a press conference to try to educate tt public as to what is taking place there at that synagogue. >> ted, in some mass shooting situations like this that we've seen around the country in recent years, i think regular folks like us watching from home are sometimes concerned or surprised to see how long it takes law enforcement to identify the victims themselves. can you give us some insight into that process, what it looks like? >> well, it's a process of if they're dealing with people who are no longer here who are dead, they're simply looking for identification on the various bodies, for--

for individuals they are interviewing and they're injured, they're immediately transporting them to the hospital and there will be investigators at the hospital that will also interview toes individuals and relay back to a team of investigative communicators the information concerned. >> ted, i hate to cut in here. 12:30 eastern, i want to bring our viewers just joining us up-to-date. starting about 10:00 or 10:30 this morning shots fired at tree of life synagogue in eastern suburb there of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. multiple fatalities, one suspect in custody after shootouts with the s.w.a.t. teams on scene. police in pittsburgh now say they believe they have that area secure. fox news continuing live coverage of this. we're hearing once again from the president who is en route to a campaign rally, tweeting out the events in pittsburgh are far more devastating than originally

thought. spoke with mayor and governor to inform them that the federal government has been and will be with them all the way. i will speak to the media shortly and make further statement at future farmers of america, that's a speech scheduled for later this afternoon and you can see folks there -- some folks clearly who are civilians, we've seen people trying to console each other and take in a little bit of this scene here. this is fairly far back from the synagogue,itself where the shooting took place where the media has been staged. the from the media team travelling with the vice-president, he will comment on the pittsburgh shooting at the top of his remarks in las vegas a little less than one hour from now. gillian, at this point it seems as though in one way we know so much in terms of exactly what happened, but also, there are so many unanswered questions at a

time like this and really what you have to do is think about, as you look at the scene, the police there who secured it and we've talked to experts now this becomes a crime scene and then the families rushing in, those who were at the synagogue and ran out and wondered what happened to their loved ones inside or those who are in that surrounding neighborhood who had friends and family there attending services this morning, on shabbat most holy and happy day, and now all of a sudden we have this. >> i want to bring in jeffrey finkle stein. he's got insight into the congregation and community here. he's the president and ceo of the jewish federation of greater pittsburgh. jeffrey, our heart goes out to the community there in pittsburgh, thanks for taking time to join us. tell me your reaction to what you're seeing this morning. >> i am -- i was at home, i actually just returned from israel yesterday afternoon and

trying to catch up on some rest and my chair of the board had heard the news about gunshots at tree of life congregation and called me and i came over right away. i'm a few blocks away from the synagogue right now, and you know, i think i just-- when i got that call i was like a robot and did what i needed to do to get over here. >> have you spoken with anybody, any of the family members, of the congregants this morning, any of the congregants themselves? >> i was on the street a little while ago with the immediate past president of the congregation, michael aisenberg who was on his way to go into the synagogue. he's the only person i've spoken to, connected to the synagogue and obviously he's in the same state as the rest of us. >> and what did he tell you? >> he knows as much as probably all your viewers know at this

point, what we're hearing on the news, but obviously for him, it's even more personal because this is a congregation that he's really worked on for the last several years. >> hey, jeffrey, leland vittert here, getting this from the consulate in new york, new york city, in that area, that's responsible for pennsylvania from an israeli perspective. this is his statement, today murderous anti-semitism has reached our borders and the state of israel stands with the jewish community of pittsburgh shoulder to shoulder. his-- have you all been feeling pressure inside of pittsburgh? give us a sense of what this neighborhood is like and given the sense of what this synagogue specifically is like. >> this is a-- this is the greatest neighborhood in the united states, squirrel hill. i live here myself. it's a unique neighborhood. it's not-- mostly jewish, but most of the

jews that live in the greater pittsburgh region live in or around this one neighborhood. it is in the city of pittsburgh and you know, it's a place where everybody knows their neighborhoods, all socioeconomic types live together. those who are very affluent, very poor. there's a real diversity in this neighborhood, ethnically. it's really a phenomenal place and it's been my home for 20 years. >> jeffrey, i'm going to cut you off for one second here. looking at live pictures of andrews air force base, screen left. because of the weather in washington, the president is motorcaded out to air force one. as we watch his motorcade approach air force one, we're going to take a minute. often times the president will come over and make some remarks in his latest tweet he said he will speak to the media shortly. as you see there, it is the smaller plane that's used for air force one, a modified 757

that the president's motorcade is pulling up to so we're going to take a minute as we listen in to see if he's going to say something. you can see the doors of the limousine being opened. the president's tweeted now twice about the event and acknowledging that the events in pittsburgh as they've unfolded the past couple of hours have been far worse than he thought they were. and you can see the president there exiting his mode motorcade at andrews to see if he's going to speak to the media. here is the president. >> so we've been following very closely the events at squirrel hill, and making a statement at the farmers of america, you see what we're doing, the future farmers, they have a big conference and we'll be going there. i guess some of you will be going with me and we'll be making a major statement. it's a terrible, terrible thing what's going on with hate in our country frankly and all over the world and something has to be

done. something has to be done, but it looks like the results are coming in and they're far more devastating than anybody originally thought in the morning. in the morning they thought that it was a shooter, but they had the shooter, the results are devastating, you see the numbers come in. we'll be speaking to you at the conference for future farmers of america conference and it's just a shame. to watch this, to see this so many years, so much of it is a shame. do you have any questions. (inaudibl (inaudible) >> well, again, this has little to do with it if you take a look at if they had protection inside the results would have been far

better. and this is always exist i suspect, but if they had some kind of a protection inside the temple maybe it could have been a very much different situation. they didn't. he was able to do things that unfortunately he shouldn't have been able to do. i hear the police were outstanding. i hear the police did an incredible job and as you know, numerous police were badly injured, but again, law enforcement do a fantastic job. we are going to have a very complete statement for you with the results coming in what took place, how it took place, and again law enforcement was outstanding. as always. i mean, has usual and as always, law enforcement was really outstanding, they stepped up to the plate, but pittsburgh, great community, incredible people. i spoke with the governor, i spoke with the mayor and to see this happening again and again

and again, just a shame. >> mr. president-- >> you say it happens again and again to end this violence. >> well, the violence, you look at violence all over the world, the world is violent. the world is a violent world, and you think when you're over it, that this sort of goes away, but then it comes back in the form of a madman, a whacko, i think one thing we should do we should stiffen up our laws in terms of the death penalty, when people do this they should get the death penalty, they shouldn't have to wait years and years, now the lawyers will get involved and everybody's going to get involved and we'll be ten years down the line and i think they should stiffen up laws and i think they should very much bring the death penalty into-- anybody who does something like this, innocent people in temple or in church, so many incidents with churches, they should be--

they should really suffer the ultimate price. they should pay the ultimate price. i've felt that way for a long time. some people disagree with me. i can't imagine why, but this has to stop. so we're going to have a statement at our stop with the young farmers. >> mr. president towards the beginning of your presidency, met with the n.r.a. you said maybe you're the president who could help solve that, do you see this as a possibility? >> it's a case, again, nobody knows exactly what took place yet. but this is a case where if they had an armed guard inside, that they might have been able to stop him immediately. so, this would be a case for, if there was an armed guard inside the temple, they would have been able to stop him, maybe there would i have been nobody killed except for him, frankly. very, very difficult situation and when you look at it, when you look at it two ways.

if they had somebody to protect somebody-- now, is it a shame you have to think that way, and it's a shame that we have to think of that inside after temple or inside after church, but certainly the results might have been far better. >> and i'd like to follow up. do you think that every church and synagogue should have armed guards? >> i hate to think of it that way so we'll see you-- certainly an option, i mean, a world with a lot of problems and it has been a world with a lot of problems for many years. many, many years, you could say frankly many centuries, but definitely you want protection and they didn't have any protection, they had a maniac walk in and they didn't have any protection. so that's so sad to see, so sad to see. the results could have been much better. it's a very, very difficult

thing. but to watch any of this-- before i ran for office i'd watched instances where with churches and other things, i'd say what a shame, what a shame. but it's even tougher when you're the president of the united states and you have to watch this kind of a thing happen. it's so sad to see. so we'll see you at the-- with the young farmers. a lot of americans-- (inaudible) >> all right, president trump walking up to the stairs of air force one to head out to a speech, the future farmers of america and then a campaign rally later tonight, addressing the media here for the first time since the shooting at the synagogue in pittsburgh, calling it a terrible, terrible thing. something has to be done about the hate in america. talked a little about what he

felt could have happened if there was an armed guard inside of the synagogue or someone to fight back. praised law enforcement who engaged the suspect multiple times there and also talked about stiffening up the laws in his words, and perhaps in some way proposing some kind of new legislation for the death penalty for those who are involved in shootings at places of worship. >> he also said that he believes perpetrators like this shooter today should face the highest possible penalty. he said they should face, they should pay the ultimate price. he didn't specify what that means. 's been a tough advocate throughout the campaign and his presidency for cracking down on these types of shooters, he also said that had there been an armed guard inside the synagogue today, things might have turned out very differently, touching there on a very sensitive issue in the nation today and every day, which is gun violence. but he doubled down. he said twice just there to

reporters at this gaggle that things could have turned out very differently if an armed guard could have been inside the synagogue. fox news can't confirm yet whether or not there was indeed an armed guard inside this particular squirrel hill synagogue, we're looking into that and we'll keep you updated. right now i want to bring in jacqui heinrich. she's following the details on the story. what can you tell us? >> this happened at tree of life synagogue, a largely jewish neighborhood of pittsburgh. it was founded 150 years ago and in 2010, two pittsburgh congregation merged to form the tree of life congregation so a lot of people go to the synagogue. we know that the shooting happened at 9:45, shabbat the most attended service of the week, and there was one service canceled today. kindergarten to 7th grade so

it's unknown whether those children were also in the regular shabbat that's waiting to be concerned. we're hearing multiple casualties. we know three officers were shot. we heard from police there were multiple shootouts with that suspect and reporters, local reporters on the scene saying that some of those officers were forced to use their vehicles as a shield. so we can at certain at least some of the shootouts likely happened outside of the building. local station kdka reported that the gunman opened fire inside the synagogue shouting "all jews must die" we're told that shooting happened in the basement, and people were found in the atrium and in the basement of the building. now, we know from a former president of the synagogue, the last president of the synagogue, that security was a major concern for them and they were working with the department of homeland security to evaluate exit routes. now, this means that the area when it was placed on lockdown, it took some time for people to

figure out whether there was just one shooter or a possible second suspect who might have exited the building and gone out into the neighborhood. we know from that past president of the synagogue that you could walk freely in and out. nobody would greet you at the door and you would easily open the doors and exit from the inside. so that was a major concern for that area. nearby carnegie mellon university was placed on lockdown. we know students received text messages from their phone telling them to shelter in place and neighbors were told to shelter in place. a short while ago a local station got an interview with a member of the congregation whose friends were inside. he was visibly shaken. hear what he had to say. >> you was heading up to the service. i'm there every-- i was there last night for service, i go up there around 10:00 and in the morning, and one of the vice-presidents that i work with on facilities now that i stepped down, he called me--

he works for the city emergency management, and he said, he just got word that there's an active shooter. >> now, we know governor wolf and senator bob casey are on the scene, but the president tweeting twice this morning, the first one, quote, watching the events unfolding in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. law enforcement on the scene. people in squirrel hill should remain sheltered. looks like multiple fatalities. be aware of active shooter. god bless all. we know that this happened, the president tweeting that out as the lockdown was still in place. it's since, we believe, been released for some of those surrounding areas. we also got a statement from the governor, he released a statement saying the shooting in pittsburgh this morning is an absolute tragedy. i've spoken with local leaders and my administration, and the pennsylvania state police will provide any resources to assist local law enforcement and first responders, and in the aftermath of this tragedy we must come together and take action to prevent these tragedies in the

future. we cannot accept this violence as normal. now, i'm hearing from my sources that police on the scene are looking at a suspect vehicle, they're looking at a green hyundai accent. reportedly they have a name that they are considering, but we don't know if the name they're looking at now is just the registered owner of that vehicle or a possible name of the suspect, waiting on new information, of course. this is still developing and we'll bring you any updates as we hear them. >> have you heard anything from carnegie mellon? you mentioned that the university is in the vicinity and that law enforcement had them on virtual lockdown and everybody was sheltering in place. have they put statements out or have you spoken to anyone there? >> i haven't gotten an updated statement from them in the last half hour or so. the students were initially alerted to the situation by way much text messages on their phones. still trying to figure out if those text messages were sent out through a university update

system. sometimes schools have a push alert for developing situations for children, student, rather, to be kept abreast of a situation, so-- >> i'm going to stop you. carnegie mellon university on their website now, shelter in place has been lifted. all activities for today remained canceled. our thoughts and prayers with our communities and those affected. jacqui heinrich following the story from new york. some breakup from our overhead pictures as we return to some video from earlier as the s.w.a.t. team moved in in pittsburgh. >> gillian. we want to bring in former trial attorney david dipietro. he's joining us from fort lauderdale, florida. david, thanks for your time this morning. what do you make of the latest we're hearing from the scene? >> i think what we're going to see next is this suspect's going to be put in a room that's going to be recorded and you're going to have probably two detectives go in and try to solicit and

obtain information from him. this is important, as the president mentioned about the death penalty. the death penalty you have to proof aggregating-- or aggravating circumstances and it's a lot harder through recent laws, you need a unanimous jury to approve a death penalty. these seasoned detectives will in and try to find out a motivation, a heinous motivation why it was done and then you're going to see subsequent search warrants of his home, of his computer, of this car, this hyundai that they have and they'll look for other potential suspects and anybody else that helped and cooperated. right now, i suspect the suspect is at the police department, and he's going to be interrogated and they're going to try to solicit a video statement, to later show to a jury at a later date. >> we also heard from jackqui heinrich that the alleged

shooter shouted "all jews must die", during and what do you make of that. >> one is to commit murder or terrorism, but if it's motivated by a person's hate for their race or religion, that could carry higher penalties under the law and it could bring in the federal government at this point. now if it's a hate crime, the federal government might-- most homicides are handled by state prosecutors, but if it's certain ones like terrorism and hate crimes, the federal prosecutors get involved and he might be prosecuted by a u.s. attorney versus a local district attorney there in pittsburgh. >> all right, david, thanks. if you don't mind standing by, we'd like to bring you back a little later. right now i want to bring in ed davis, a fox news contributor and former boston police commissioner. if good afternoon. do we have you there? >> yes, i can hear you. >> what are you making of this live pictures that we're seeing

now from on the ground? what do you take away from this? give us some of your professional insight. >> well, based upon the camera feed from the helicopter, it would appear as though the s.w.a.t. team has rallied outside, which to me obviously means that the area has been rendered safe. they tend to pull together, take all of their team together and debrief a little bit at the scene before they move out of there. but this is the stage where, this moves from the control of the s.w.a.t. team, you know, this was a combat situation when it started. these s.w.a.t. team members are trained like special operations members of the military. they shoot and move, they know what they're doing and they're really necessary to stopping the danger. now that the danger is stopped, they just said, we're moving

into the investigative stages. the area will be cordoned off and meticulously pick up every piece of evidence, pak up every shell casing, every bit of trace evidence. any bit of information they can get from the scene and one of the things that they exploit is the telephone of the suspects. that gives a treasure trove of information. so that process has started and the suspect is in the hospital or the lockup and they'll be questioning him. >> ed, in terms of zooming out a little bit. you were the commissioner during the marathon bombing investigation in boston and massive investigations, how wide of a drag net goes out in a moment like this? >> this is as wide as it gets. everything gets spun up in these situations. you've got the joint terrorism task force that would be involved in getting information and trying to determine who this guy is and what his motivation

was. you've got the travel fusion centers. not only in pittsburgh where this is happen, but those fusion centers are communicating with police departments-- >> i want to bring, to that point we're just getting breaking news from the n.y.p.d. that they're deploying heavy weapons teams and special operations officers to houses of worship across that city. currently there's no nexus to nyc, but we ask you to remain alert and see if anything suspicious and report anything suspicious. does that sound routine to you? is that something to expect for folks going to church on sunday around the country that it's likely to have a pretty heavily police presence or perhaps should we read something into the n.y.p.d.'s response? >> no, this is a standard response. i think you'll see this in big cities across the country. it's usually done quietly, conversations with the rabbis, especially in jewish community

because of the special threats that they have. they work very closely with police departments and this is just common sense security that occurs when the fusion centers are starting to get the information, a suspect coming in and staying "all jews must die" certainly puts this in the religious hatred category and just makes sense for a police department to use appropriate caution, especially today and through the weekend until we know what's going on here and this threat it abated. >> what do you make of president saying that the outcome could have been different with an armed guard. the quote from the president, they didn't have any protection. >> right. you know, there are two schools of thought on that in the united states. one is that we need to control guns. and the other is more guns will help the equation. i don't think that more guns help the equation, i believe if

people start shooting at each other, a lot of innocent people die. so, i just-- i understand the theory and i understand the rhetoric on it, but the truth of the matter is we've got to keep guns out of the hands of people who are mentally ill and this has played itself out over and over again and we keep saying it and we're not doing it. >> ed, the president also said he believes shooters like this should pay the ultimate price. my guess is not a lot of people would disagree with that, but what's your take about that statement? >> i totally agree. i think that when someone, a coward like this picks up a weapon and executes innocent people, especially in a house of worship, the death penalty is appropriate. i don't see that lightly. i've been involved in death penalty cases in my career. this is very, very serious stuff, but i think it's necessary and sends a message to other people that might consider

it. >> all right. ed davis, former boston police commissioner who was there during the marathon bombing now watching this from affair. ed, we'll bring you back in a little while for your thoughts in terms of how the process will go for so many families now that have so many questions. thank you, with that we bring back in ted williams, formerly of the d.c. police department, also involved in a number of federal agencies. ted, how much by the end of the day will we know versus now in terms of victims, in terms of family members, family members that won't make it, family members that are in the hospital? >> i think we will know by the end of the day, leland, a great deal. i think right now with the law enforcement officers processing the scene, just as soon as possible there will be a news conference or some information will be provided then.

and the fact that we have news operatives all over that area right now, i think by the end of the day we'll know a lot more about the unfortunate victims of this carnage. >> ted, we don't-- there are big things that we don't yet know, but there are some things that we definitely know. fox news's own reporting confirmed a few minutes ago that the shooter did shoot out "all jews must die", while he was apprehended. why isn't that enough to get us to an established motive? >> well, it's part of the motive that's, gillian, right now, and so quite naturally that tells me that this-- part of the motive could very well easily be a hate crime. again, what law enforcement have to do is to try to get into the head of this shooter, and they're trying to do that through looking at his social media site, if he has one, if he

has a residence anywhere close by, they're looking at that. if they've confiscated the automobile, an automobile that's related to this guy, quite naturally they're screening that automobile. so there's still a lot to be known, but all of this will be ferreted out in the days to come. >> what do you think of the timeline looks like from here? >> well, when you look at the timeline, it's going to take them some time to process that scene. as a matter of fact, you're looking at a crime scene that could very well take days to process. once they process the scene, and they've gathered all of the evidence there, they will process that evidence. they are clearly trying to show a nexus between the shooter and the victims and the shooting there. it is my understanding that some law -- or news reporters are

reporting a news agency, i should say, he may have used a semi automatic weapon and if that is the case, then there are a lot of shell casings throughout that scene and all of those shell casings clearly would have to be processed. >> undoubtedly one of the key questions here for the investigators will be whether this perpetrator obtained that firearm legally or illegally due to the nature of the sensitivity of that issue, you know, in the nation right now, it's a something that a lot of americans will have a hawk eye on. do you have any thoughts? >> you know, that's certainly a part of the investigative process. first of all, they're trying to determine who this individual is, what is his motive, or has he threatened that synagogue or other synagogues? what is his leaning?

is he perhaps maybe a white supremacist? or does he hate jews? to go into a place of this nature and say that "all jews must die", if in fact that's what he said, that clearly shows that he had a motive for these killings. now-- >> i was going to say, ted, that kind of clears up, if he indeed did say that, there were multiple reports of that, that would clear up whether he hated members of the jewish faith or not. ted, i want to interrupt you for one second. this from the attorney general from pennsylvania. leaving to be with the community and survey law enforcement's response at tree of life synagogue, the shooter claimed innocent lives, and injured first responders at a baby naming, referring to a bris, a young jewish boy gathered at

eight days old. and usually one of the happy times at the birth of a child. you'd have extended family members and friends of one family there. saturday morning, ted, in terms of what the police response looks like, how long cost it how long does it take for things to get spun up here in terms of getting the terrorist task force , everybody kind of reforming back up and obviously the police officers in much different stance. how many more hours until the full weight and power of the fbi and the joint terrorism task force begin to look at this dragnet and participate in it? >> leland, participation was rapid and immediate. once it was known that there was a shooting at a synagogue, jewish synagogue immediately federal state and local law

enforcement started moving to try to process what was happening at that scene and so this is a coordinated effort. since 9/11, leland we have found that law enforcement officers are federal, state and local law enforcement officers have coordinated for these kind of unfortunate events. leland: all right, ted williams, we appreciate it, standby for a second, 1:00 o'clock eastern time to reset for those just joining us. we are about 3 hours now in continuing coverage of the shooting at the extra of life synagogue in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, 10:00 a.m. eastern. eastern part of pittsburgh, one person described it as the greatest neighborhood in america, gillian, in terms of what was there, predominantly

jewish community, aerial pictures from our affiliate from the synagogue itself. we saw the swat team beginning to put gear away at 10:00 o'clock in the morning first reports of multiple shots fired there in the synagogue. at this point, multiple fatalities and there were then multiple shootouts between police and the suspect, 3 police officers among those wounded. gillian: we've also now heard from the president via tweet, he also spoke to reporters just a few moments ago, we heard from the vice president, we heard from the first lady, we heard from the governor. the president said just before he boarded air force one that he had spoken to the governor and mayor and plans to stay in close contact with them throughout the day, though he'll be in the air for the next couple of hours he will be moving around he said, but he's laser focused on the development and also said that his heart is with the entire

city of pittsburgh. he didn't -- he didn't directly mention the recent pipe bomb threats spread throughout the country but referred to them opaquely when he said that there's too much hate in the nation right now. he said it needs to be brought to an end and that the government's tolerance is really being tested. >> well, he certainly promised obviously the full weight of federal law enforcement which we've already seen on the scene there in pittsburgh. the president brought up an interesting point, he said had there been an armed guard at this synagogue, things would have worked out very differently in his words, to that end, we've heard from nypd at least that they are going to begin deploying heavy weapon's team weapons in houses of worship in new york city. boston police commissioner said it's fairly routine in situations like that and conceivably tomorrow when you go

to church for our jewish viewers when you go to synagogue later today, you very well may see a large police presence or you may not see it and it may still be there. evidence perhaps of the times we are in, it appears as though the situation is contained. the police in pittsburgh have said they believe there's no active shooter and they've arrested one suspect. sort of gone from active shooter to crime scene investigation as so many people have talked about. already discussions from the president as to what should happen to suspect. he said they should pay the ultimate price, he said he's a big fan of the death penalty and it should be administered much more swiftly in his words. there's been for a while now. in cases like this that we heard what he shouted allegedly, according to affiliates there that all jews should die conceivably that could bring in

federal hate crimes prosecutors. gillian: the president he didn't say the death penalty just now in his remarks but there was a clear reference to that when he said people should like this should pay ultimate price. he has spoken, though, in the past in the wake of mass shootings around the country that the death penalty is appropriate and necessary for instances like this when we are looking to punish perpetrators on mass violence, especially houses of worship when folks of all ages are targeted, when folks of different denominations are targeted, so unsurprising words coming from the president just now, but he did sort of doubled down on a push for the death penalty. leland: yeah, whether that translates into any change in legislation or not yet to be seen. live pictures now on the ground in pittsburgh. it is impossible to overstate

the sadness that becomes overwhelming now in these communities. people who all know each other, a synagogue like this will walk to services on saturday morning, and now you have friends and family all rushing to the scene to see if their loved ones are alive, to see if their loved ones were injured. often times during this situation, cell phone networks become overwhelmed. people drop cell phones as they run out in the chaos of the shootings and over time, we will endoubtedly hear the stories of heroics by people not only law enforcement who as we know ran to the sound of gunfire multiple times and engaged in multiple shootouts but undoubtedly they'll be heros who were there on saturday morning to worship and practice their faith who were called upon to sort of perform inhuman and unhuman

duties of protecting others, taking care of the wounded and it will be days before we hear all of those stories. with that we can bring in former fbi special agent, member of fbi, hostage rescue team, greg schaffer. greg, specifically to this situation that conceivably a call went out that there was a shooter, one or two police officers arrived on the scene and then we had this massive swat team response. from what you've been able to glean, how did they handle it, what do you make of multiple shootouts that occurred with this suspect? >> well, the running gun battle and i salute -- first of all, my thoughts and prayers to all victims and i do salute the people that responded so quickly and efficiently. having police officers run to

gunfire is what you get paid to do, however, bravery that most people can't even understand. i salute the great officers to do that and quick respond from swat team, that's anomaly, that usually takes an hour to 2 hours and a half. the police respond time nationwide is over 12 minutes, so, again, this quick response is anomaly and we should all be thankful for our law enforcement's quick response because i assure it did save lives. gillian: greg, once they've got individual, suspect in custody, what is their number one priority immediately? >> well, first of all, you stop the killing and then you stop the dying, by arresting the suspect they stopped the killing. next priority is now stop the dying, people are bleeding, medical attention to individuals

right away. another aspect they are looking at did he have accomplices, is there more than one shooter. ask him right away whether he had any other accomplices. did he have radio with him to communicate with other people, trying to find out if this is a seoul shooter -- sole shooter or multiple shooters. gillian: how long does that usually take, minutes, hours or does it vary case to case? >> it varies case to case, suicide or they commit suicide by cops. there's there to ask, they are dead. they do have accomplices often times they do have cell phones or radios they are communicating with so the responding police officers will look for that right away. leland: just so our viewers so and obviously there's probably people in pittsburgh who are watching this who may be worried , carnige lifted shelter

in place based on what we can tell on the stance, if you will, posture of the police department, police officers that are seen in video and combined and with we haven't heard urgent pleas of police be on the look out for or stay in your homes, we've heard the opposite, fair to say in this case, they put the second shooter possibility to rest? >> i think you are absolutely right. based on their demeanor, just body long. you have to remember we live in modern time now, every place of worship, every business, every school and every family has got to have a plan to do the incidents if they are in this situation. these people prey on the weak. we have to have a plan, hide is not part of the plan. the hit rate on moving target is 4%, that means you have a 96% chance of not being shot just by

running and like i said, places of worship, you have to have plan in place because awareness and preparedness is what allows you to survive. leland: at the same time you think about the shooting, often times if you go to sabbath services and how religious and observant you are as jewish member of the faith, conservatives in the middle but more traditional. a lot of people wouldn't bring cell phones to the synagogue, they wouldn't be able to communicate with their friends or family that they are okay, that they are injured or that they need help or what happened to their friends. you combine that with at least what we are hearing is that there were multiple entries and exits to this building, you don't want to say these people were -- were easy targets but it

certainly seems as though the shooter exploited whatever vulnerabilities there were. >> absolutely. most people in that instance are frozen in fear and that gets back to my point on being prepared and aware. if you have a plan in place before you know what to do. it's the fear -- fear not knowing what to do is what causes you to hide, coward, complete frozen and fear. you want to get up and you want to move and create distance from the shooter. leland: with the exception of the police officers as who we noted multiple times ran towards the sound of gunfire, greg, standby with us for one minute. bringing our viewers up to date to national response. we expect to hear from the vice president within the next 20 minutes or so, he has a program

in las vegas that he was on a campaign trip for. we see a large of what appears law enforcement officials perhaps walking towards the cameras there. we are going to standby and monitor that signal out of pittsburgh, kdka, affiliate there, there's a pretty big parameter around that. sarah sanders just tweeting out, sad and appalled by cowardly act of evil committed in pittsburgh, we stand in solidarity with the victims and all of the jewish community against bigotry and hate. gillian: he spoke to gaggle of reporters there and he said his heart goes out not only congregation here at the squirrel hill but the jewish community at large, he did not mention -- the president did not mention his immediate family but

-- leland: now to pittsburgh. >> people want to report that that i want to say on behalf of everybody in pennsylvania, these were our neighbors, these are fellow pennsylvanians and this is an incredibly sad day. ii want to thank first respondes for doing what they have done to make us safe and to respond so quickly, so effectively to this tragedy, i want to turn it over to windle. >> city of pittsburgh public safety director. as the mayor mentioned we had a tragedy here today. the work of the first responders is probably prevented from becoming much more tragedy than what it is. the scene is very bad inside, there are multiple fatalities, there are at least 6 injuries to include 4 police officers, the police officers' injuries are nonlife threatening, the other individuals are critical and serious in nature.

they. >> taken to three of the level one, level two trauma centers in the city of pittsburgh, that being general, upmc and upmc, upmc mercy. at this time we would like to say that we have established a phone number with assistance of fbi for any questions from victims, families, that number is (412)432-4400. once again, (412)432-4400. a victim's assistance and reunification center has been set up on college and campus at berry hall, 106 berry street, we will have briefly counselors there as well as the red cross. please allow about half hour for the final plans on establishment of that center, however, there are individuals working to have

it up and running as soon as possible. a further press conference will be held at the county emergency operation center at 4:00 p.m. this afternoon of which the elected officials and first responders will give you as well as fbi will give you an update. at this time, this do being considered a federal violation and the primary investigative agency will be the federal bureau of investigation. i would like to personally thank the many first responders that had respond today this incident today to include the pittsburgh bureau of fire, pittsburgh bureau of police, ems, county police and fbi, atf and numerous others that i don't even -- can't even count how many first responders are here that are providing assistance. this will be a lengthy crime scene, we are asking people to -- that don't need to be in this

area please stay away from it so that both the investigators and first responders can do their job. i will emphasize at this time there appears to be no active threat to the community. the individual we believe, the subject that's responsible for this has been taken in custody. that's all i have. >> could you go over what happened? >> i don't -- that's going to be part to have investigation. >> the number one more time for us? >> on the injuries we believe 6 injuries, four of which are police officers. so it's a total of 6 injuries. i will not discuss that yet until we are sure of that number. i don't -- i don't want to get into that at this point. [inaudible] >> a lot of information. i would be cautious on what you hear and you don't hear at this time. like i say, we have numerous investigators here, i would ask

that if anyone has any information regarding the investigation that they also call that (412)432-4400 and that will put you in contact with the fbi. >> can you tell us what the situation was in there, how many people were inside? >> i don't have that answer. i do not want to give you -- my understanding is there was a service occurring. [inaudible conversations] >> that is correct. however, we are setting up a very hard perimeter around the crime scene and we ask, you know, individuals to stay away from that, so there will be a very secure presence around the crime scene just to protect the integrity of the investigation. [inaudible] >> i don't want to get into that. >> you think he acted alone? >> i don't want to get into that. right now what we have is one subject in custody from the scene whether or not as all the

investigations, we have to look into every imaginable fact to find out if there's anybody else involved. >> any evidence of a bomb? >> there is not explosive ordinance, explosive teams went through the scene and there's no evidence of any ied's or any further threat. >> wendell, for a moment there you sounded very emotional. your hand was placed -- tell me how are you feeling. >> it's a very horrific crime scene, one of the worst that i've seen, i've been on plane crashes, it's very bad. all right, so -- >> identity of the shooter? >> i do not want to get into that. there's active investigation going on right now. >> have you identified him? >> i'm sorry? >> who are we going to hear from at 4:00 o'clock? >> from myself, u.s. attorney as well as elected officials. >> what's the next step here in.

>> the next step is secure the crime scene, western pennsylvania and from dc in route here so they will be running the investigation and the crime scene with the support of lagne county police and city police. i have no idea. i would like to mention the state police, you know, they've been instrumental in helping us out as well. >> 6 people or at least 6? >> as far as the injuries we are at 6 injuries. >> did you identify the gunman? >> it's an active investigation, i mean, obviously we know who the gunman is but i'm not going to bring that up now. >> why -- [inaudible] >> as i mentioned before, this falls under hate crime being its a jewish synagogue so it will be basically a federal investigation with the assistance of the locals county and state police. >> did was shooter among injuries? >> the shooter was taken to the

hospital and i will leave it at that. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. leland: director of public safety in pittsburgh ending a briefing, he had a tough time getting through and understandably by what he just saw saying it was a horrific crime scene, at times almost being brought to tears, clearly but what he had seen, gillian. gillian: he said he's been at plane crashes, he's been at many different crime scenes over the course of his life and this is one of the worst, he described it as horrific. he said this is a horrific crime scene and he said that he didn't wanting to into any further details because it was clear that it was too difficult for him. he was trying not to cry as you said, leland, choking back tears. >> we learned a few things that are pertinent. no imminent threat. the fbi taking the lead as they are now calling this a hate

crime, there were reports that this individual had yelled all jews must die, other things that he reportedly said but whether or not he said those exact words or not, fbi taking the lead, this is now a hate crime. 6 injuries, 4 of those are police officers which is more than we thought and we know there were multiple shootouts between this one suspect and the police officers. he also, i think -- gillian: he did mention that the fbi is taking the lead but they will continue to rely upon the locals, the local law enforcement including the first responders that were there on the scene this morning so sounds like they will be -- there will be a coordinated effort going forward on the investigation. leland: interestingly he would not get into the number of fatalities, he choked back tears as well there. he said, we want to be absolutely sure in terms of the people of people who have

perished in this tragedy for the country, really. one thing that they also brought in was trying to find a way to reunite families that had been separated in this. in the jewish communities such as squirrel ridge often times people walk to synagogue from fairly far distances, often times they don't bring their cell phones, it's jewish holy day, conservative temple, observant on sliding scale on jewish religion. there are dozens if not hundreds of families that have no idea if their loved ones are among the dead, among the injured, were the ones saved and came to the aid of those who had been shot, simply ran out, we know that this was during something that happens?

jewish faith 8 days before male child is born. friends who were all there at this and this happened right around the time that sabbath services begin. >> we also don't know yet the demographics of the congregation in there this morning, we don't know how many elderly, how many children, we don't know of any of those in attendance were injured, we don't know where the rabbi is or injured or affected by this. a lot of unanswered questions about who precisely the shooter managed to reach once he entered the synagogue. leland: we know the police engaged with him multiple times, that will bring in special agent who had been joining us, greg, are you still on the phone, greg schaffer. >> yes, sir, still here. leland: you listened the news conference, us as well, from your long history give us the

incites of what he wasn't saying but thinking? >> what they are going to do now now that they have the shooter identified, they will go deep dive into prkd. they are going to, again, go into social media accounts, computer, complete search of his home. leland: greg, i don't know if you're watching, we are watching live pictures in pittsburgh of swat team walking back out and the view on their faces are men who have seen things that they perhaps did not want to see and didn't think they would see. people who had -- >> absolutely. i've done operations in other places and bombings. the death that you see and blood and when there's children, women, involved much more horrific, you never get used to that.

so that's something that they are going to have to deal with own demons and help in dealing with that. that never leaves you. protect and serve, they know that's one of the things they may have to face in the future. gillian: what do you read into the director of public safety said about this being treated as federal hate crime and fbi leading the investigation. what does that tell you? >> well, there's federal statute against hate crimes which has higher sentencing guidelines. they'll probably want to go federally because they can possibly institute federal penalty and pennsylvania now has a moritorium on death penalty, i agree with the president, in a situation like this we need to look seriously as a nation whether we do have the death penalty mandated.

gillian: and how closely would they be looking at the alleged perpetrator's close friends and family members will they be profiling everyone? >> certainly look and talk to every one of his associates, friends, family, coworkers, they want to find out motivation and recognize what that was and see if we can learn from it. all these incidents, critical and recognize indicators that would prevent incidents from happening again. so we treat every one of these as opportunity to learn, you know, why they did it, how they did it and how we can prevent futures instances like this from happening. leland: greg, i want to ask you to standby for a second. as we know, there were 6 people injured from the director of public safety, four police

officers, dr. mark siegel getting this from upmc presbyterian, one of the hospitals victims taken to, four patients there, three victims are in surgery, one is stable awaiting surgery, another patient was treated and released. one of the other hospitals has a patient in surgery as well. the governor of new york right now saying that there's going to be increased state police at synagogues and at jewish houses of warship, nypd saying that they are going to have in their words heavy weapon's teams at houses of worship throughout new york city. give us a sense for people who are watching, perhaps going to church this afternoon, going to synagogue, going to church tomorrow morning, what does that mean, churches now become sort of arm's compounds or should they perhaps? >> well, historically obviously the jews have been targeted for many years so their jewish

community centers and synagogues generally have a pretty good security plan in place. most synagogues that i know of in the dallas/fort worth area where i live, they have armed response, they do have armed guards at centers. they are more prepared than most. that gets back to my point, you know, let's take, for example, everybody knows what to do if they get caught in a fire, they get low, wet towels around mouth, they crawl out of fire area because we plan for it, we think about what we are going to do if we were caught in situation. we have got to take blinders off and stop not talking about this and make sure, again, every school, church, synagogue, business family have a plan and that plan is action. action beats inaction every time. if you freeze in fear, you will die. >> at a time like this you want to keep in mind also as you

said, greg, the fear that any of these people felt on sunday morning as they were there at their services and the sound of gunfire broke out. greg, we appreciate your insights, thank you for joining in your expertise, we will check back with you later today, gillian. gillian: we will take a quick break, we hope that you'll stick with us, we have lots more from our guests and analysts on this, we are also keeping laser eyes on the ground there in pittsburgh at squirrel hill. [ ] -deductible? -definitely speaking insurance. -additional interest on umbrella policy? -can you translate? -damage minimization of civil commotion. -when insurance needs translating, get answers in plain english at progressiveanswers.com. ♪ -he wants you to sign karen's birthday card.

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gillian: welcome back, following developments in squirrel hill, pennsylvania where a mass shooting has been carried out today, i want to toss things right over to jackie who is following latest details, she joins us live, jackie. >> gilan, we are learning first few details what was going inside the synagogue as this happened. we heard that this shooting

happened during baby-naming ceremony, we know in total confirmed by police 6 injuries, 4 of those injuries police officers, some are nonlife threatening others are critical, the police officers injuries are nonlife threatening the others injured are critical. no numbers on fatalities, the victim some have taken area hospital, one on lockdown, we also have some information from upmc presbyterian hospital that's treating four of the patients patients from the shooting, three victims were told are in surgery one other is stable, awaiting surgery, another patient has been treated and release, upmc mercy, another hospital treating patient who is currently in surgery awaiting new information. we've heard from the los angeles mayor eric garcetti that lapd is stepping up patrols in light of the shooting as the happening in new york, nypd, special opts and

also counterterrorism at this time in light of what happened in pittsburgh. we also have heard the gunman opened fire inside the synagogue shouting all jews must die in a press conference the public safety director not confirming that information that was reported by the local affiliate kdka, but that is what has been announced at the time. the shooting we know happened in basement of the synagogue, people were found in the atrium and also the baiment of the -- basement and security was major concern. interview with past president at the time, at the time they had been working with homeland security to evaluate exit routes, ability to open door was concern at the time, some confusion while this is ongoing as to whether the shooter had escaped into the neighborhood which is now been released, no longer on lockdown and the

shooter has surrendered. just recently we heard from the president commenting on what a terrible situation has unfolded there. >> terrible thing, hate in country and all over the world and something has to be done, something has to be done. it looks like the results are much more devastating, in the morning they thought that it was a shooter but they had the shooter. >> and we now have confirmation on the name of the shooter, robert boward is who we are being told is responsible for this, that person in custody, we are told, robert bowards, alleged shooter is at one of the possibles, we believe he's at general hospital that we are hearing from sources on the ground there. there has been a victim assistance location set up there

and also a phone number that has been released asking for tips to be directed to the fbi as they try to sort out what the motive was in this tragedy that unfolded there this morning, so we will update when we hear more from the ground. >> thanks for that, jacqi. we heard from law enforcement officers, former law enforcement agencies that now moving forward in this investigation all eyes would be as jacqi would be on the motive, that's the now million dollar question. leland: a few things shouted by the suspect according to local reports, jacqi and report affiliate that may shed light. jacqi, thank you very much, speaking about the phone number at the extra of life synagogue, (412)342-4400 expecting update from the investigation, the fbi is now taking the lead, we are suppose today hear from them at 4:00 o'clock eastern before that we should hear from both the

vice president and the president who are on the road right now. one thing that's worth mentioning as we put out that number (412)342-4400, saturday morning services, conservative synagogue, more observant synagogue there. a lot of people don't bring cell phones. there are hundreds of families right now wondering if their loved ones are among the multiple fatalities. gillian: will probably be according to guests speaking, hours if not longer until they know for sure, until police and law enforcement can even confirm the victims and then informing the families is an entire separate process that happens after that. we could be waiting unfortunately a very long time. leland: the wait for those families who have gathered there in hospitals to try to figure

out if their loved ones are among victims is agonizing beyond words, we bring pennsylvania congressman kelly, know that your district is nearby, your mother grew up in squirrel hill. >> yes. leland: this has to hit pretty close to home. >> you know, leland, doesn't matter where we grew up. this hits home to all of us. we started off in pittsburgh and made our way to where i am today in butler, but this is truly a tragic day and president lincoln spoke eloquently, there are times that we are driven to our needs, when things like this confront us. i would just think of today in a place of worship, in a place that we think as the safest place to be. evil has crept into almost every part of our life, no place for it not only in american politics but in american life. gillian: what about the fact congressman, tell me how it feels to know that this, you

know, minority contingent was targeted, egregious history of discrimination of racial hatred, violence, national hatred, ethic hatred and now know that the synagogue was targeted in your community, tell me about the emotional response that you and your -- >> you know, we've got to look at this, if you look at the world in general, the whole world there are no more attack than the jewish faith and christian faith globally. christians are under attack in places that we don't often hear about. they are the ones that being attacked in most horrible ways. attack on any one of us is attack on all of us, i know it's a talking point but that's what we are. it's not about democrats or republicans right now, it's about americans, it's about who we are, value system judeo christian value system that welcomes all faiths, does not discriminate against any.

for system reason we -- some ren crazy people are doing things and comes down as to why this is happening. i wish we could turn around from secular ideas that we have and faith-base community that we are founded upon and who we are and what really drives our morals. leland: before the president left andrews air force base and said terrible thing with hate, something has to be done. i will leave it to you as to what that something is. >> i had just come out of mass the day shooting at baseball field. that can't possibly happen, can it, we aren't that type of people. we need to take a look inside our own lives, what are we doing to heal and bring communities together and words do matter and the way we act matters, think

twice before you make statement, that's not who i am and that's not who raised. i am so blessed in my life to grow up in a town in the times that i grew up with the parents, grandparents and aunts and uncles and teacherses and coaches, different time for us. our culture has changed as the american people. this is an america that welcomed everybody and encouraged free speech. champions of who we are, that's our first amendment, we turn away from that. we need to take a deep look into personal lives and how can we help feel even in the smallest way what can we do today to make sure that we have -- america loves life. i watched this happen in the last couple of years, it is horrid. leland: as you think back on so many of the mass shootings in america, it's almost hard to name them because some of them begin to run together.

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also a charge really for americans moving forward. gillian: all the more powerful because it comes from a young woman who is jewish and marry today a jewish man and raising their family in securely in the faith. it's a very powerful statement. we have not confirmed, you know, law enforcement has not confirmed a motive but she sure is tweeting out what is on the hearts and minds of every american today which is that this is act of antisemitism, after social media, history, families combs through, we can say that this is antisematic person. leland: the reports coming out of pittsburgh and others is when suspect was being taken into custody he yelled at police all jews must die. the shooting began this morning in pittsburgh, right around the 10:00 o'clock hour there as we

watch a live picture. the police in pittsburgh saying that they believe they have incident under control, should get more information at about 4:00 o'clock this afternoon as we continue to monitor here in washington, we are waiting to hear from vice president pence who is at campaign event in las vegas and the president right now is flying to indiana for an event and he promised earlier that he was going to address this with full and complete statement beyond what he said before he left andrews air force base. gillian: that's right. we will take a quick break, we want you to stick with us, live coverage continuing from squirrel hill, live on the ground, we've got reporters, we have breaking news for you coming up shortly.

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jewish community of pittsburgh, we stand together with the american people in the face of horrific antisemitic brutality and we all pray for speedy recovery of the wounded. gillian: quick and powerful message from leader of israel. as you know he has been a fierce, fierce advocate of american jews here in this country. something that he spent many hours speaking to the president and his advisers about advocating on their behalf. hard to imagine the heartbreak and devastation he's feeling this afternoon. leland: israeli prime minister knows all too well about comforting his people in a time like this, in the time of horrific violence, often times to quote my good friend kevin corke, prime minister in chief.

what certainly appears to be a terror attack at jewish synagogue in pittsburgh. one thing that caught my eye from somebody in the community i'm so use used to calling isral and checking when rocket attacks or bombings and now calls from israel to families in pittsburgh, are you okay, and as we heard earlier there are a lot of families who don't know if their loved ones are all right. the number of fatalities we still don't know, the investigation continues in pittsburgh. gillian: sad day. leland: on the other side of the break, danny, israeli ambassador to the un when we come back. wits and stuck-on dust, so shark invented duoclean, replacing the front wall with a rotating soft brush. while deep cleaning carpets, two brush rolls pick up large particles with ease, make quick work of stuck-on dust, giving hard floors a polished look,

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leland: fox news alert, 2:00 o'clock eastern now, just about 4 hours after the first shots were fired at a synagogue in pittsburgh, pennsylvania on sabbath, holy day for jewish faith, multiple people death and injured, we await the vice president to speak, he's in las vegas, gillian, we heard from president trump before he left andrews air force base calling this a terrible thing and saying we had to do something about all of the hate in america. gillian: the time for the kind of hate we are seeing political hate, racial hate, ethnic hate, religious hate, it's comin