boothe. we have a look at the midterms, lisa will be back for that. the mooch will be back for that. don't miss it. mark levin is up next, we have a facebook live coming up this show. join us next sunday when "the next revolution" will be televised. . mark: hello, america. i'm mark levin. this is "life, liberty & levin." we have a great guest. speaker newt gingrich. how are you, sir? >> good to be with you. mark: pleasure. whole hour? how often do you get that? >> not very. mark: i don't need to introduce you, everybody knows who you are. i want to talk first before we get into the election. it's a crucial election, certain issues i want to talk about. certain candidates tonight talk about. the media and so forth, i think a little background is useful.

you're a historian and donald trump i would argue is one of the most conservative presidents we've had in modern history. now he may not be a conservative, you know, based on philosophy, but i think he's a conservative as a result of common sense, and his background as a developer and so forth. but also it's part of a trajectory. explain this trajectory over the last several decades of conservatism and conservative victories. >> well, what had happened was that the roosevelt-era democrats created the modern system, the bureaucracy, centralized power, whole set of values comprised by eisenhower making a huge mistake appointing earl warren and leading to a much more radical court. in the early 1960s, you had a reaction building in the country, the government is too

big, policy against the soviet union is too weak, and we don't want washington running our lives. the guy who personified that is barry goldwater and he wrote a book called conscience of a conservative in paper back, i was a college student at the time, and it swept the country, created a generation of goldwater supporters who saw him personify a new way of thinking about things. he was very important because he broke the establishment's grip on the republican party. he lost badly in the general election to johnson, who probably is going to win anyway because john f. kennedy had been assassinated and weren't going to change presidents twice that quickly, but goldwater planted the flag, and ironically in defeat he asked ronald reagan to make a nationwide speech in october of '64. so in a way the conservative flag was passed from barry to ronnie at that moment. reagan's speech was

electrifying and he went onto become governor of california, and i would argue there's a continuum that starts with goldwater, goes to reagan that in many ways nixon and all the traditional republicans are place holders. just as later on the bushes would be place holders, because they don't actually understand the long-term trajectory of conservatism. reagan comes along, oddly becomes a very consequential president in three ways, defeating the soviet empire, an enormous achievement. one of the greatest strategic victories because he did it without a war. getting people to feel good about being entrepreneurs and focused on american civic culture. in his farewell address, he said one of his great sadnesses is they had not driven home american history enough. but he was trying to rebuild the sense of being american. you then have a period that we're in the doldrums and come

along with a contract for america and for the first time in 40 years the republicans win the house. impose a balanced budget for four straight years, impose welfare reform. bill clinton comes to the congress and with a straight face says the era of big government is over. it was a remarkable moment, and left scars on the left which hillary never overcame. a lot of liberals hated what the clintons did, and then we, again had, a period of being in the doldrums and had policies that didn't work. i was for the war in iraq, certainly for the war in afghanistan, but you have to look 17 years later and say we haven't figured out how to win these things and along comes trump, and i agree with you about describing trump, and as you and i talked about earlier off camera, you have the tea party movement begin to explode in 2010 because they couldn't

grow up against a republican president but they could rapidly mobilize against the democratic president, and so you have a whole new wave of energy, and john boehner and the house republicans won ten more seats in 2010 than i won in 1994. mark: 63 seats, you got 54 seats. >> yeah, and boehner did it with a very straightforward simple campaign, where are the jobs, and it worked. people came together and said that's the right question. so we were back in charge of the house again. and i think people today have no idea how unusual this is. we held the house for two two-year terms between 1930 and 1994, of 64 years, we held the house four years. we now had the house a vast majority of the time since 1994. and along comes trump, and i'm with you, i tell people i'm not sure he's a conservative but he's the most effective

anti-liberal in my lifetime. and whether it's deregulation or conservative judges or cutting taxes or standing up for an american foreign policy based on american values, every time you turn around, he is instinctively saying things which drive the left crazy, and he's doing it, i think, because of the notion of common sense, and the things he learned a long time ago. again, he's old enough, he remembers the values of the post world war ii, highly patriotic america, where people love the flag and they love the idea that we were the greatest nation on earth and love the values of the declaration of independentents and constitution. so in a lot of ways he's carrying forward almost as a grandfather, the values of two generations ago and taking head on the left-wing radical values which the academic world, the news media is and hollywood have tried to impose in the

country. mark: it seems to me, newt, he wasn't always this way, wasn't always coming towards a conservative conclusion. he backed some liberals and i think as he's been president that these things have crystalized for him. that sitting there where the buck stops there, seeing the policies, seeing the impact of the policies or potential impact of the left's policies, using his common sense and using his business background and so forth and he's an incredibly intelligence man and sitting there and saying no, that's not right. when you think these things through, he comes, and many people come to a conservative perspective. >> i think that's partly true. i think the donald trump between 1983 or 4 and as early as the 80s, oprah winfrey is asking if he's going to run for president. very young guy at that point. that donald trump, i think, was stunningly shallow, and that's

what we're doing, and gradually began to change, and i think that it is watching obama that drove him to the right, because there is clearly -- in a sense, bush and the failure to win in iran and afghanistan drove him into a harsh critique of american foreign policy, and obama's entire approach to policy drove trump to just say this is crazy. remember, years ago i had the opportunity to spend time with the founder of singapore who had been the great leader who created a remarkably successful country, and i asked him what was the base of what he did? he said, you know, i was a graduate student in britain, during the labour government right after world war ii, and every time i would encounter a problem, i'd ask myself, what would clement and the

socialists do? and i would do the exact opposite. and it worked every time. in a sense, trump came out of obama years having been driven to a much more practical businessman, commonsense approach and because he wanted to run as a republican. he began to acquire allies like dave bossie and other, sean hannity, probably ironically his closest adviser in that period, and you can't do the hannity show once or twice a week and not gradually become a conservative because it just doesn't work, and i remember, callista and i were in the meeting in washington, his first visit to washington as a candidate, we're sitting around and people, your point, people going is this guy a total opportunist, why would i believe him? somebody in the group came up and said, why don't we put together a list of ten solid conservatives that you would name to the supreme court? so the people can realize

here's stability, here's a clear commitment. it's a yes or no. and leonard leo and jim demint of the heritage foundation agreed to take the lead. leonard leo head of the federalist society. that's one of the big changes i think because we now have relationships that we didn't have 30 years ago. you couldn't have produced the number of judges for reagan that they're now producing for trump. mark: this came by the way out of reagan administration, sort of the farm team became the team, federalist society, the heritage foundation. many of the people being pointed to the bench, or to the justice department, worked in the u.s. attorney offices under reagan and meese and developed this farm team. >> exactly right. so trump, because he was running as a republican, and because he has no hostility to conservatism, he just doesn't think about it much, and he has enormous hostility to political

correctness and liberalism because it doesn't fit how he thinks the world works, so i think we ended up with somebody who i compare frankly to andrew jackson as one of the most disruptive presidents we've had because he's not afraid to take on the establishment every single morning. mark: we need a disruptive president, don't we? >> absolutely. it would have been, if we had a reaganite follow reagan in '88, we might have gotten to where we are today, a generation earlier, but it was very hard to break out of establishment. that's why you have the never-trump movement because these are people who are just paralyzed at the idea that their little world is disintegrating and that this brand-new populist conservative world is overwhelming them. mark: and because he is a disrupter in a positive sense, the people who don't like being disrupted, you talk about the never-trumpers, are really the trump haters.

>> right. mark: not just within the republican party. the entire democrat establishment, including the media establishment, including academia, almost to a man and woman, they are lined up attacking this president because he's a disrupter, correct? >> yeah, and i actually think there's a profound historic reason for that. i think at 8:00 on election night, all of those people had a bottle of champagne chilling. they were all going to celebrate breaking the glass ceiling with hillary. going to get radicals appointed to the supreme court and life was good two. hours later, it's clear that hillary is going to lose, and if hillary is going to lose, my god, donald j. trump is going to be president. this two hours is the equivalent of an ied going off. these people have the equivalent of ptsd, they try to recover. every morning they wake up and

think could this be a better day, and he's already tweeted six times before they get awake, and go my god, he's still president and go right back into the ptsd. what you had is a collective psychotics experience by the entire left. we would then get together and sort of therapy support groups called fund-raisers and cocktail parties and what have you, and they all talk to each other and they get hysterical. and so max booth, a good historian wrote at one point he'd rather vote for joseph stalin than donald trump. that is an insane comment. stalin killed well over 30 million people, but it was the sense of a mood, and trying to express how deeply he felt. mark: when we come back, i'm going to ask what you all of this has to do with the upcoming midterm elections and how you compare this to other midterm elections?

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. mark: newt gingrich, this midterm election, what did it have to do with trump? everything to do with trump? and how historic is this midterm election? >> i think it's a very historic election because i think trump is a very historic, disruptive figure. if at the beginning of the year the great blue wave emerged and they had won the senate and the house, i think trump would have been in real trouble and repudiated. now, i went out on a limb this week and said, look, i think it is more likely that we will have 57 republican senators than schumer will be a majority leader. that's a conditional bet, but i think the odds against schumer are now so bad that we can -- i think we can get winning in new

jersey and -- mark: that would be a red wave? >> i think in the house where we had an unusually large number of retirees, they're having to fight their way back, with leadership from kevin mccarthy and steve scalise and others and a lot of fund-raising by paul ryan, they are within fighting distance, and i told people, it's probably somewhere between 229 republican in which case we're a majority and worst case 204. mark: what is the majority? >> 218. mark: 218. >> we currently are at 241. mark: you are fairly optimistic? >> very optimistic in the senate and pretty optimistic overall, and we still have ten days to get to the election, and in 2016, we actually got stronger every single day. mark: well, the early numbers, and they're that, from nbc

among others, looking at a number of these state, and the than nevada, some of these other states, georgia, florida, texas, montana, early voting where they actually monitor it by party, the republicans are turning out in larger numbers than the democrats. now the independents are turning out too, who knows how that will go. what do you make of that? >> first of all, clearly not going to be a giant blue wave. you also have, and a lot of the states, in nevada, for example, we have a very important senate race, i think dean hiller is going to win. in arizona, a very important senate race. this is a good example what's happening with the democrats. they nominated a congress woman named sinema who turned out to be a real radical and led anti-war demonstrations in a pink tutu, went on a radio show and said she thought it was okay for americans to join the

taliban, and well, you can say that was years ago when she was young, she can't bring herself to say she was wrong. martha mcsally, the first american woman in combat as a fighter pilot. mark: fighter pilot. >> has been after here and mcsally keeps drawing the distinction, i served with people killed by the taliban and you can't say it was wrong for an american to join our enemy? and it's almost a jane fonda moment for those of us old enough to remember the vietnam war. and sinema can't get off of it. mark: why are the democrats nominating people like this? you look at her, the governorship race in florida. gillam is a radical leftist. you look at georgia. you've got stacey abrams, a radical leftist. >> right. mark: this robert francis o'rourke who likes to be called beto, he's a radical. they've nominated almost across the board for the statewide

offices. >> one of my favorite lines was ted cruz referring to comrade beto. [ laughter ] >> has the -- the party has so -- and people don't notice this, has soment inally transformed as an institution. >> yes, two things, a lot of the current hard left was outlined in a terrific small book called the argument by the "new york times" reporter. he wrote it back in 2006, 2007 and it really, in retrospect, i read it at time and indicated hillary was going to have a hard time, and obama has a small role in the book. you don't see obama emerging but you clearly see half the party opposed hillary because they thought her husband sold out. and clinton had interestingly exactly the same experience as his counterpart in great britain, in that they both

tried to bring their party to the middle. they were both in the end repudiated by their party because the left-wing of their party was the dominant wing and the wing that has all the energy. so what's happened is -- obama comes along and obama say radical. the one person i know personally who got this was sean. hannity said early, look, this guy is exactly out of rules for radicals and exactly represents that kind of radicalism. so he kept the left relatively happy because under the happy face they knew he was really them. now, i would say 60% of the democratic party today is a radical party. kevin mccarthy had it exactly right, he said this is a campaign between america and socialism. it's not between democrats and republicans. and i think this is now the socialist party of the united states, and you look at places like venezuela which is

disintegrating, and you have to ask yourself how can any rational person favor the socialism that every time it's tried is a disaster. >> you think this election, like mccarthy, is about americanism. >> yes. mark: versus socialism. >> which country are we going to be? mark: that makes this election historically crucial. >> yes. mark: because we're on a precipice now making that decision, and they view, i assume, donald trump is in the way. they want to remove donald trump. they want to repudiate the 2016 election. they want to take one of the instrumentalities of the federal government so they have a foot hold from which i guess to spring in 2020 as well, and their entire agenda is sort of political molotov cocktails, impeachments, not an agenda

they want to run on. they are smart enough to camouflage their actual views, aren't they? >> they are, but also it's genuine hostility. antifa trashing the republican houses in new york and someone throwing a boulder through kevin mccarthy's office in california. a crowd trying to drive through senate majority leader mcconnell and his wife. mark: ted cruz, so many we can't name them all. >> yes, and you have the backdrop of growing hostility and you've had people like congressman waters say go after them wherever they appear in public, don't let them appear in public, and all of that now, we'll see what happens because of the bombs that were mailed, and whether or not suddenly people take a deep breath and begin to lower their voices. when you have the former attorney general of the united states say if the republicans go low, kick them. and you have hillary clinton saying we can't possibly be

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lives matter, and how they really have played down antifa and black lives matter and other radical organizations and the things you listed earlier. there's a long list of the harassment, of trump officials and republican officials and restaurants and so forth, and then last week, the president calls himself a nationalist. i'm not a nationalist, i'm a constitutional conservative, i know what he meant by that, he meant americanism. american first. and insinuate and flat-out say he's hitler, comparing himself to hitler, trump is too foolish, he doesn't know he's comparing himself to hitler. actually the new nationalism speech was given by theodore roosevelt. part of their ideology or was. how in the world do you compare this president to hitler and stallin and take from that he's a racist. he hasn't done anything that

suggests that. this is a mantra they keep pushing, a propaganda they keep pushing and i ask myself are they trying to influence the election? trying to destroy the man? trying to remove the man? what is your take on this? >> i think the level of hostility is beyond anything we've seen. the last study said 92% of the news media was hostile to trump, of the actual coverage, story by story by story. if you are openly pro-trump in the washington times or post, they would fire you. clearly you understand you shouldn't be here. take the example of what trump was saying about nationalism. really one of the great magic moments of american history is benjamin franklin who goes to england to represent the colony of pennsylvania, and after seven years realizes that he will never be accepted as an englishman. that the aristocracy will not

accept him. though he was a world-famous scientist and a very wealthy man. and people have said he left as a british subject, he came back as an american, and in a way, this thing about being an american starts there. and i think it's important to recognize it but what trump is saying, when he uses the word nationalism isn't a level of federalist arguments but saying look, these guys on the left want to basically sell our country out for some kind of global cause whether it's the paris accords or the international criminal court or the united nations. you know, i tell people the reason that john kerry runs all over the world the way he does and sees the iranians is in kerry's mind, he was never the american secretary of state, he was a world secretary of state, doing good things on behalf of the world, which is why i don't think you can charge him with the logan act because you'd have to be an american in order

to be charged with the logan act and kerry is not psychologically an american, he's psychologically a person of the globe and would regard people who care about america as sort of pygmies, obsolete. mark: now, the issues in this election, what are the top two, three, four issues, right now? >> number one, which doesn't get much coverage because it's working is the economy. if we didn't have a great economy, republicans would be in desperate trouble, but the economy is so good that in district after district people say wait a second, i don't want to throw out guy that gave us the lowest black unemployment in history, lowest latino unemployment in history. tremendous job growth compared to the last ten years. mark: by the way, there's very little reporting on it. >> of course, because it's positive. people know it, they talk about it. they say it in the business news. mark: they live it. >> they live it. the second thing the fight under way whether we fix the

health system incrementally with practical, commonsense steps or jump to a government-run big health structure and tli think the democrats made a mistake because they embraced medicare for all, which is a great slogan and terrible program, and the president wrote a tremendous op-ed in usa today taking it apart, and republicans have figured out how to make sure people understood. socialist idea because you lose your health care. mark: let me stop you before we get to three and four. medicare for all means medicare for nobody. >> right. mark: government-run, centralized, old soviet-style health care. >> and seniors figured out the medicare for all means you're going to take away my medicare. it's a dead loser for the democrats which it wasn't when they first said it. as the argument goes on, they're losing. i think the other two are kavanaugh. i think what happened with kavanaugh galvanized the right,

reminded people how radical the democrats are, and for the senate races was devastating because it reminded people that this is a team sport. so if you watch manchin who is popular in west virginia, is now behind, and the reason he's behind is people figured out he's going to go back and root for schumer. don't tell me you're a conservative if you are going to work for schumer. reminder of the kavanaugh sport was a terrible reminder it is trump carried. and energized them immensely. and lastly is the caravans. when you start seeing footage and it's one of the cases where the news media can't say enough to undo what you're watching with your own eyes, you see 7,000 to 15,000 people, almost all male coming north. that looks like an invasion, doesn't look like a family

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. mark: newt gingrich, look at a couple of races that come to mind. take a look at florida. florida the third most populated state, it's crucial for republicans. you start losing states like florida, you can't win. if you lose texas and florida, no way you can win a presidential election. but these are very, very important states. you have a governorship race

there, ron desantis and andrew gillam. a harvard graduate, served a brief time in congress, shown himself to be a leader. a solid conservative, gillum, the mayor of tallahassee, a corrupt city. the murder rate is through the roof. he was bernie sanders candidate, he worked for people for the american way. backed by george soros and i watched this debate last night, he keeps bringing up race. he's under investigation among others by the fbi and says it's because of race. what is your comment on that? >> well, i think, first of all, most people in this day and age when they have a guy stand there and say i had to take the tickets to hamilton, which i think $1800 apiece because i was black. what is he saying to us? that it was okay to be corrupt if you're black? or that it's not corrupt by

definition if you're black because it's never corrupt? then it turns out, he took a trip to central america and you have to say to yourself you shouldn't be held accountable for anything you do because you're black? and i think it actually is a disservice to every african-american in the country to have a politician at that level who faced with their own personal corruption hides behind the issue of race because then -- one level he's smearing every single person who's african-american, that's wrong. this is about him personally. mark: i agree with that. i mean, it had nothing to do with race. it's an undercover fbi agent, investigating a corrupt city and investigating the mayor as part of it, and the fact is he took the tickets to "hamilton," which he didn't pay for, the

taxpayer paid for it, and the fact is he took the hotel room, the fact is he went to costa rica. nothing to do with race and i agree. to bring that up is really a disservice to african-americans but a disservice to the people of florida too to play that kind of game and the national media, not the local media, let him off the hook. another race, texas, ted cruz is doing much better against robert francis o'rourke. i won't call him beto. he can call himself beto all he wants. o'rourke, a hardcore leftist, representing el paso in the house of representatives, backed by hollywood, backed by manhattan, backed by the usual leftists and billionaires and so forth. what do you make of that race? >> texas is a place where liberal hearts get broken. four years ago it was wendy davis. she was the great hope. she was going to bring them a

governor as a liberal democrat. she crashed and burned. it's going to be doubley interesting in o'rourke's case, he's raised so much money. $68 million. if he loses with $68 million, at some point there's going to be buyer's remorse. mark: they're already talking him up for 2020 presidential run. bizarre. >> works for me. you have to think it's kind of bizarre. he started this race and in midsummer looked like he was going to be a serious candidate. but texas is a conservative state. cruz is a very smart, effective guy, and you got back to basic issues. gun control, right to life, balancing the budget, smaller government. the kind of things left-wing democrats don't do well. mark: one more, i got one minute on this, stacey abrams against kemp, another radical. >> i think stacey abrams loses

because she is radical and totally atlanta. no idea about the state outside of atlanta, and i think it's clear whereas brian kemp secretary of state, he'll win by four to six points. mark: michigan, john james, a wonderful candidate, african-american, combat veteran, successful small businessman, gets almost no national attention, cnn, msnbc, all but ignore him, debbie stabenow. >> if he gets enough money in the next week and couple of breaks, he'll win. most recent poll showed the governor's race much closer, the lieutenant governor's race much closer and everything in which he is coming together and getting much, much tighter, that would be one of the biggest upsets but such an attractive candidate and such a great background and stabenow has been around a long time. mark: ten seconds, mccaskill

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. mark: newt gingrich. it's election night, we're watching the returns, are there a couple of states, couple of house races we should keep our eye on to get a feel for what might be trending? >> think in the house, if you look at barbara comstock in northern virginia and dave bratt around richmond, those two races are important signals, and if the republicans keep both of them, no possibility the democrats get control of the house. if we lose both of them, it could be a really long night. i think they're really central as a weather vane what's going to happen. i think in the senate on the east side, bob huingen is running a great race in new jersey, a long shot race. if he's winning in new jersey election night, it's going to be a really long night for the democrats. mark: let's say he loses and it's close? still a long night? >> potentially a long night. you go further west where karen housley is running against the

appointed replacement for al franken and because of the impact of ellison who has all sorts of problems, dragging the entire ticket down and there's a real chance there, and trump's been out on the iron range northern minnesota, there used to be very democrat and now very republican, so minnesota is a state that is a process of really dramatic change, i think, if we win that senate seat, it will be for schumer, a devastating night. mark: now, you know these votes come in on the east coast, start to spread towards the midwest and go to the west and the far west and have you california where there's six or seven races there, the republicans have held where they're tight races, a couple of points apart, rohrabacher, hunter, chairman who have retired. i think, tell me if you agree, i think the media will do in

this country is report in such a way quote, unquote as to try and get the democrats out, try and get the democrat base out, they know if it's close they need the six or seven california seats to put the democrats over the top. am i being too cynical or realistic? >> exactly how it works. i remember in 2000, they would hold up states that were going for bush and not call them. well, they were calling states going for gore. and so early in the evening, they were giving you the sense and impression of a totally one-sided election for gore and later in the evening all the states, which they knew, they hadn't reported them, knew they were going to go for bush, started piling on. i think it's very hard to overstate the depth of bias in most of the news media against trump and against the republicans. mark: so you agree with me, then, if the republicans seem to be holding on or better, they don't want to deflate the voters out west where they need

those key house districts, those races and try and pump them up somehow. >> well, what happened in 80 when reagan won so decisively and jimmy carter conceded too early. he conceded while california was still voting, and the result was that we picked up several seats because people were listening on the radio, the portable radios back then and heard that carter had conceded and the democrats went home, and the republicans stayed because they wanted to vote for the winner. vote for the winner. mark

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mark: it is possible that the democrats take out even by little and they overreach and subpoenas are everywhere and trashing the president and want his tax returns and tax return of his grand children and on and on and bring up articles of impeachment is it possible, like the kavanaugh hearings and so much more, that the democrats walk into the door -- there'll

be a great backlash in america that would help trumps reelection 2020? >> it is very possible. it's also possible that it could make a split between the hardliners who are rabid and want to bite trumps angle and the more moderate ones who think you got to do something positive before the 2020 election. i can imagine house democrats barely split. mark: and you would have people like adler who is a leftist heading the judiciary committee, taxing waters heading the finance committee -- it be hard to conceal who they really are, wouldn't they? the left is from the deepest blue part of the deepest blue states have no reason to control themselves. >> remember, they hire staff who are more radical than they are. that's how feinstein ended up with a bill that's an open borders bill that every civil democrat cosponsored in the senate because her staff is

totally so far to the left it did not occur to them that an open border bill is crazy. mark: it was a pleasure, newt gingrich. god bless. join us next time on "life, liberty and >> i am chris wallace. a mass shooting in a pittsburgh synagogue. the deadliest attack on jews in u.s. history. >> of his evil anti-semitic attack is an assault on all of us. it's a an assault on humanity is the one that is just a day after a man is arrested for sending mail bombs to critics of president trump. raising new questions about inflammatory political rhetoric that sometimes goes over the edge. >> any acts or threats of political violence - - are an attack