tv Tucker Carlson Tonight FOX News October 29, 2018 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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>> ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." over the weekend, americans gathered from around the country in churches and synagogues to pray for the 11 innocent people who were murdered in pittsburgh on saturday. they bowed their heads, they asked god for healing, they thought hard about how to keep the country together, how to be kinder to the people around them. that is the america that you grew up in. a decent place full of decent people trying to do the right thing. but there is another america too. it is the america of cnn and twitter. and that america, political operatives rushed to the scene
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of human tragedy, hoping to leverage it for political gain. they make snap judgments on the basis of incomplete evidence to implicate their opponents. they use fear and rage. it they commit moral blackmail. typically, their aim is gun-control. a crazy person committed an evil act, therefore you must be disarmed. but this time, that's not their goal. this time it is more comprehensive than that. they want to take charge of what you are allowed to say and think. how they try to do that, by blaming you you and your opinis for the crime.ou watch. >> this man, the president kept talking about this caravan of refugees as if there were terrorists or as if they were coming to commit atrocious crimes in our country, which they are not. >> tucker: so did you catch the message there? it wasn't subtle. the writer was angry about
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illegal immigration. if you oppose illegal immigration, you are very much like the murder appeared even if you have never killed anyone, your views have inspired others. to kill. you are implicated. you are a monster just like the lunatic in pittsburgh. you must change your beliefs, otherwise you will be punished. this is how free speech dies and free thoughtis along with it. the range of acceptable opinion narrows until it mimics a cnn script. before long, everyone is nodding piously along in unison. there is no disagreement. there is only conformity. obedience serves the tripping the party line. that is the goal. after this, the left is now it's on me. the southern poverty law center issued a list of demands for tech companies. anyone who disagrees, they explain, must be disbarred from organizing events or publicly expressing their opinions. that's an order, says the splc.
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well, the southern poverty law center says don mike has no moral standing to make any of those demands. none of those people making any demands do. and the least virtuous are invariably the most self-righteous. watch former dnc chairman howard dean explained that american politics is no longer about l politics, which is to say competing ideas, what might work, and what doesn't work. instead, it is a spiritual battle between light and a dark period between god and satan himself. watch. >> it has now become a struggle of good versus evil, and of the president of the united states is evil. >> tucker: evil. now that is not the language of american civic life. it never has been.ev that is the language of holy wa war. evil. well, evil people can't be reasoned with. they shouldn't be listened to. they must be crushed and destroyed. did howard dean really mean that?
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well, we are going to assume for the sake of this country that he did not mean that and none of the other people talking like howard dean mean it either. we are hoping all of them have lost their senses temporarily. at some point, they will wake up feeling chastened and ashamed at ready to rejoin the adult conversation. either way, we do not plan to stop talking, no matter what they say or demand. every american has an absolute right to express his views, regardless of what twitter thinks. it's our birthright. it's the most important freedom we have. we are not giving it up on this show. you are always free to say what you believe, even if we disagree with you. free expression does not cause extremism. it solves extremism. senior fellow at the institution. professor hanson, i want to talk to you first tonight because i think you have perspective that is lacking in the situation. are we overstating it? do you think that speech is at stake in our current debate?
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>> no, i think it is in a way. a safe space, if i can use that left-wing term, we don't want to turn on the television for the nba, nfl, and to be lectured out. and we don't want to spend thanksgiving debating 1861. we wanted to tone down, but we don't know what the rules are, talker, because we havein established that james hopkinson, to take one example, he did not shoot because of what maxine waters or madonna set on inauguration day. he was just nuts. itsa wasn't just the influence f donald trump. we accept that. and then all of a sudden, with these latest incidents with the pipe bomb and with the synagogue shooting, we are told that it is somehow donald trump. but we don't know anything about cause and effect. we don't know if he was too
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pro-israel, brought people out of the woodwork who were angry with them, or to anti-israel, and power to the alt-right. they can't even get it straight. wait a minute, i don't like hate espeech, but i don't know what the rules are. it is not symmetrical. it is a left-wing electronic reign of terror. these self-appointed facebook people in a nanosecond, people don't like that. so we are saying what are the rules of speech? and from what you and i and others have seen on facebook and twitter and youtube, the masters of the universe, that tell us what is permissible speech, so we don't know her to turn to in this confusion.. maybe we should go back to the sermon on the mountain and say to ourselves, let's treat others how we would like to be treated. i would tell that to hillary clinton. met romney lost in 2012. he didn't say i'm not going to be civil.
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when george bush quite ungraciously accepted that he ws out of office in 2009, he didn't go around the country saying obama is now an enemy of the united states. i think it is asymmetrical, and people understand that. they can't adjudicate s us becae they don't have the moral high ground. >> tucker: well, they definitely don't have the moral authority. i wonder if their assumption is right. what they are saying is that certain ideas are so bad that they cause violence. and i wonder if it's even possible for any society to ever squelch ideas. doesn't that cause -- and i'm not just saying this, when you try and prevent people from having unapproved thoughts, don't you create extremism? >> yeah. i think that is an age-old dilemma that goes back to the greeks. we in the west have decided thaw we don't want the medicine to be
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worse than the disease. censorship and starting up a sensor board that tells us who can say what. so we err on the side of free speech. people who want to censor free speech right now don't want to do it symmetrically. they feel that because they are more noble, that they deserve because of their noble and the site, any means necessary and for their project. i think that has got people very, very angry answer to be alienated.d. >> tucker: well, anytime you have what is in fact a religious conversation, a theological conversation that begins with i'm a good person and you are not, how can you hope to make progress? how can you hope to solve anything if any side believes itself to be saved and the other damned? >> you can't. you have to have to be empirica empirical. you have to say at this particular act occurred because he heard this particular person say something. nobody has been able to make
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that cause and effect. and as i i said, and a nanoseco, people will get on edge. and then they say i accuse you of all of this. and everybody is afraid. you and i, you especially our oneness lift a word from having your head electronically chopped off. >> tucker: i am aware of that. every day i think of that. but i think it is more important to tell the truth and be honest. thank you, professor. >> well, you have to stand up against it. >> tucker: robert woodson is the president and the founder of the woodmande center. he is the author of "the triumphs of joseph." thank you very much for coming out. you are one of the people that we go to in times like this. the obvious question is what do we do? i don't think anyone wants to see the rage that we are seeing rightt now. >> we have been here before. for little girls were blown to death at our church.
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and emmett till was killed, and we had the bombings at dr. king's house, almost killing his wife and his child. what stimulated solutions where the civil rights movement engaged in debate within itself. the d movement, there was a lotf debate as to what is the way forward? and it caused infraction and that's movement. more organizations developed. we did not demonize the political party. we didn't look for villains and victims. we came to gather on solutions. and that is what -- it was backed by a spirited debate. the debate is missing out. the issues today, the lonelines loneliness, the lack of meaning in people's lives. leading to suicide and record number. violence. isolation. and so right now, for anyone to speak up to address that
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problem, they are being vilified because you either have to declare yourself as being on one side of it or the other. but the answer, though, is to give the people something, their own voice. right now, people on the political left and right, extremes, they presume to speak for whites on the right and others who presume to speak for authorities on the left. i believe that whites in trailer parks have more in common with black sand browns who are in these toxic communities. and my organization, the woodson center, we have 3,000 of these groups to come together and meet, and racial antagonism is never an issue. the problem is that the groups thatat we represent, they are nt given a voice. the others, they are represented yby people who really don't represent their real interest. and these are intellectuals, elites, who are denigrating the values of this country.
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and those values of our founders may be used as political tools by both the left and the right, but for grassroots leaders who are struggling with drug addiction, loneliness, those principles and virtues are life enforcing. these values are the foundation over which a transformation and redemption -- so what we need is to give the people who are experiencing the problem their own voice. there is no place in this country where a low income white, black, hispanic, where they can come together and say to the country these extremes do not speak for us. the woodson center is trying to promote that. >> tucker: people whory claim to be our leaders weren't elected. they are not our leaders. >> the civil rights movement has morphed, and it has lost its moral authority. >> tucker: i wondered since you were there for the civil rights movement, the last time this country felts like it was coming apart, as it does now, i
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wonder if that could have been peacefully resolved if social media had existed then. [laughs] >> that's a good question, but i really think that the commitment of people there, this was a movement of inclusion, not exclusion. we believed we were holding america to live up to its promise. right now, people are denigrating those values and saying to blacks because of the legacy of slavery and discrimination that america is to be ever condemned, and we reject that notion. the very fact that black spot in every war in this country and not one was ever convicted of treason, believed i was coming through last summer, and i saw a90 veterans being wheeled into come to a ceremony here, and i just wept because i thought about the sacrifice that they have made. blacks and low income blacks and
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whites in these working-class neighborhoods are america's patriots. theyne are the ones who should e given a voice to speak for themselves and not let these extremists speak for them. >> tucker: i agree with that. robert woodson. thank you as always. your perspective. we appreciate it. >> tucker: we should add that free speech is discussed at great length in my book at, "ship of fools." meanwhile, the migrant caravan is a real thing, despite what they may be telling you on television. they are actual people in it, and it raises actual questions that as a citizen you have a right to ask about. more after the break. ♪
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>> ♪ >> the caravan, they are wasti >> of the caravan is not wasting time. >> obama and bush both sent the national guard to no effect. >> i am sending the military. this is the military. and one thing that will happen, when they are captured, we don't let them out. what has been happening, and as it pretty recently, we are not letting them out. they would catch and release. we are not releasing. so we are not even doing that. we are not letting them into this country.f >> tucker: that was the president of the united states of course speaking to laura ingraham. the full interview airs tonight at 10:00 eastern on her show. the original purpose of soldiers in this country was to protect
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america's borders. washington has forgotten that completely. making its way through mexico, ordered the deployment of more than 5,000 u.s. troops. this is deeply offensive to some people for some reason. an attorney and former obama campaign advisor. david, thanks a lot for coming on. so here is what i find sincerely confusing, and in the spirit of trying to bridge the gap, i will just put it as honestly as i can. why is it offensive to defend our borders? >> we should maintain territorial integrity. we don't have to let anyone into our border who doesn't supply with the law, but it is also hyperbole to call this an invasion. these are people who are in trouble, for often facing security concerns and are trying to come here to apply for political asylum. >> tucker: how do you know that? has there been a census of this
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group? we know nothing about them. we don't know their names, we don't know their motives. i mean is in that kind of the point? we actually don't know. i am not attacking them, i am just saying that we don't know. >> we know that they don't have weapons, and we know that they are not a foreign army. some reporters have spent time with them. we know that some of them are economically depressed persons. some of them are young children, old people. these are not people coming to attack us, but they also don't necessarily deserve to come into the u.s. >> tucker:ke i know that we are very concerned about foreign entities affecting our life in this country. what if you had 22 million foreign nationals living, using fake documents within your own borders? what would you call that? 22 million, all of them using fake federal documents, here illegally. why would that not be an invasion? >> is not an invasion.
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>> 22 million. >> we have illegal aliens here, and we need to do something about that. >> but 22 million foreign nationals living in your country under false pretenses, with federal documents, wouldn't you be completely freaked out byby that? there -- if there were, you would be here on fire up soft, wouldn't you? >> i would be hair on fire upset if they were doing things tose compromise he was security, if they were doing things to compromise our foreign policy, or to compromise our constitution, compromise rule of law, but many of these 22 million are actually gainfully employed. they have family, they are in school. uc tucker: look, i am not attacking them. i think they mostly come here because it is a rich country. but isn't the lesson of the 9/11 that you want to know who is in your country. >> documents cannot be forged.
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if i tried that at an airport, i would go to jail. we've got 22 million people doing it every single day, and that is not a security concern because they vote democratic. that's why we need an immigration law that deals with these, people. orderly. some of them need to be -- >> some of the need to be sent back or processed so that they can become legal. that is what congress wants. it is not sorted out. >> tucker: if i go down to my bank and try to open an account using fake federal documents, well, the responses we need a comprehensive approach to that. i get why you did it, you are just trying to open up a fake bank account because you're probably a good person. lets me tell you, that is a felony. jail. so why are we allowing 22 million people to do that, and i can't do it? in other words, why are we giving the benefit of the doubt to these people and not to americans? because the democratic party is
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hoping that they will be democratic voters. >> you cannot put this all on the democratic party. they together have utterly failed to pass an immigrationou law that would deal with this problem. >> tucker: actually, you are saying somethinguc that isay basically true. the democrats are hoping to make them all voters, but the republican party just watched a trump get elected on the promise of buildinghe a wall, we deserva lot of blame. i actually agree with you. they are both responsible.hi so given that fact, which is like a complete disaster and makes a mockery of our laws, the rule of law itself, why shouldn't we be pretty concerned about thousands of unknown people demanding entry? we have a right to come to america, why shouldn't that bother us? >> none of them said that they have a right to come to america. they wantey to come to america, and by the way, they are coming to america, we all know that they are coming. they are going to come to the border, they are going to try to apply for political asylum.
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many of them will be denied and should be denied. what they are not doing, it is important to note, they are not doing what you are claiming that these 22 million people did, came illegally without people knowing. >> tucker: it's true. >> they announced their arrival and apply for political asylum. >> tucker: a lot of our aliens without documents, illegal aliens in this country -- >> they came here -- >> tucker: as refugees and never came to court because they are released into the interior of the country. 90% of them stay here. that is exactly how many of them got here. if they want to apply for asylum, why didn't they do it? why should we take seriously this kind of asylum if you don't -- >> you can't apply for political asylum in the country that you are from. you have to leave your country. >> tucker: now, but why can't they apply legally?
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i feel bad. these are legitimate illegitimy their nature. >> they have to go to a foreign country to apply. the better argument that you could make his why are they applying in mexico. >> tucker: why can't they come here legally like everybody else. >> i think we can both agree is because they know that they will be denied. the most important point is that the remedies that we are looking at our band-aids. what we really have to do is help countries like honduras fix the problem, fix their rule of law problems, so that they don't come here. that is good for their interest and our interest. leadership that neither democrats nor republicans have showed so far. >> tucker: 50,000 people died last>> year of drug abuse. americans are sleeping on the street tonight. relieving themselves on the sidewalk. i think our first obligation is to them. no one else seems to think that. >> i agree with you. >> tucker: then maybe wait on the list would be the people of
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honduras. they are not american. >> you are sitting here talking about how worried you are that these people may come here to the u.s. when i am saying we can solve that problem if we help them improve thehe economy. these people don't want to leave. that is not an illusion. >> tucker: our job is to watch over americans. >> it is in our interest. see when you know, it is super complicated, no one knows how to do it. it hasn't worked. >> i believe that america has faced tougher problems. >> tucker: i don't think that we have overcome many of those problems actually. p >> we helped fix it europe it. >> tucker: okay, we are out of time, i'm telling you. i am sorry. midterm elections are a week from now. huge changes in the campaign landscape. wheren are we as of tonight? we have a snapshot of the most recent polling numbers for you when we come back.
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noncitizens to vote. officially this was just for the school board election, though it obviously won't stop there. after months of trying the scum of campaign has managed to drop a total of 49 votes. in case you can't do the math in your head, that's $6,320 per vote. the tragedy of courses that this is money that should have gone to clean up the streets, fight drug addiction, or do literally anything to help the many american suffering literally on the streets of san francisco. but of course, helping americans is exactly why san francisco would not do that. because they don't care. a week from the election, both parties doing everything they can to turn out both. going down to the wire. where are we in the midterm elections? for that question, we go to independent woman's voice, lisa boothe. without pinning you down in no way that is going to do harm,
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wheree? do you stand? >> i think i do enough on my ow own. remember, we had gone from thero is going to be this massive blue wave do you know people don't know if there's going to be a wave. it is too close toto call. saying that recently the house is a toss-up. i think t that is good for republicans, but when we look at the numbers, democrats just need to pick up 23 seats in the house to take it back. 24 districts. currently in republicans handset hillary clinton won in 2016. there a are enough seats that either lean democrats or are likely democrats, tons of races for democrats to get to that um number. so it is certainly possible and plausible for democrats to take back the house, but i think the fact right now that it is not a foregone conclusion bodes well for republicans. >> tucker: structurally, it is tough. it is hard. the senate, where is that as of
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tonight? >> well, right now it looks like republicans are certainly going to keep the senate. i think they might even pick up seats. you look at north dakota. kevin kramer has just taken the lead and ran with it. he has been up by double digits in that race. iorth dakota is probably definitely going to go republican. i also think missouri and indiana look like potential pickup spots for republicans. the cavanaugh effect is real in the state of missouri. his first campaign out that he ran was about the supreme court. he ran another ad about the circus and attacking claire mccaskill. it so i think that plays out while there. you look at places like arizona and nevada where democrats are hoping for the pickup opportunity. has been up and some of these polls, so i actually think that republicans will maintain arizona and nevada. >> tucker: that would be a huge win. >> i don't want to embarrass
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myself.an >> tucker: okay, we are saving the tape. thanks to the tech industry, your children are probably being exposed to smartphones before they are even potty trained. is it good for them? people who make the technology know that it is terrible for them. that's where they protect their own children. more next the fact is, there are over ninety-six hundred roads named "park" in the u.s. it's america's most popular street name. but allstate agents know that's where the similarity stops.
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if these packs have the same number of bladder leak pads, i bet you think bigger is better. actually, it's bulkier. always discreet quickly turns liquid to gel, for drier protection that's a lot less bulky. always discreet. >> tucker: it is impossible for a k >> tucker: it's almost impossible, technically it is impossible for a kid to grow up right now without exposure to screens. c the smartphones, but also the schools especially are filled with laptops, tablets, and online homework. bey? because silicon valley's push that on our schools. they are profiting from it. you know what they don't want? that garbage in their own kids schools. they are keeping screens out of their children's schools and teaching them to play with real
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toys instead of digital ones. why? though screens are poison. they should know. they make them. a licensed psychotherapist, author of the book "disconnect." i know that you remember very well, and maybe some of our viewers will too, that all of the dumb people were telling us the most important thing we could do was to put ipads in every school in america, andnd daryl katz my kids would magically get brilliant. what do we now know about it? >> we now know that that is absolutely false. something i have been lecturing about for ten years, trying to get parents to really realize what this stuff is doing to kids brains, why we have so much anxiety and depression, why the suicide rate is through the roof. you have the tech executives that are actually preventing their own children from using these devices. when i saw that piece, i was thrilled to hear that because maybe now we can educate other parents that aren't as aware as
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these silicon valley folks are. >> tucker: philip morris neighbor gave marlboros to his own kids. none of the people selling this garbage, through their schools, where they have to obey, why is that? >> it is unbelievable. it must have something to do was behind the scenes lobbying, special interest. these tech execs, there is a large amount of students that go to the waldorf school. and those schools do not allow any form of electronics. it is all paper and pen learning. 70% of the students in those schools are the sons and daughters of silicon valley tech executives. they know things that the average parent out there doesn't know. >> tucker: but they sell the products d anyway. and they don't alert the rest of us. and school district after bovine
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school district continues to believe that technology is the key to education, and they never warn anybody about the threat that they clearly perceive. >> i worked at a school for 22 years, inn addition to being a psychotherapist. the biggest thing that we are trying to get a handle on is the mental and emotional well-being of our children. it was really more about education. now it is part mental health and part education under the public schooling. how many educators do you run into who really understand the magnitude, the imminence of this threat to kids? >> the educators that i speak with, they know it anecdotally because they see it firsthand in front of them every day, but what they need to do is read more, like my book really underscores everything. in fact, we need to get parents out there hearing experts like myself discuss the ramifications.
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not just mental health but also the family system. youut know, when you look at families nowadays, an average family of four is really more like four individuals living a solitary life staring out a scream. >> tucker: by the way, people can't read anymore because their brains have been trained it to read 50 words at a time by the iphone. we are going to look back on this moment and say i can't believe we were so passive in the face of this. >> absolutely. >> tucker: thank you so much. hillary clinton made an awkward racially hinged joke. shouldn't we give her the benefit of the doubt? does anybody get the benefit of the doubt anymore? next. insurance that won't replace
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>> tucker: some new video. >> tucker: we've got some new video for you. this is hillary clinton sitting with one of the least impressive people, karen swisher, ada q -- last friday. watch this. she makeses this racially tinged joke. for real. >> what do you of cory booker? >> i adore him. >> what you think about him saying kicked in the shins. >> eric holder. i know they all look alike. >> tucker: we disagree with her on just about everything. on this case, we are willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.ub we don't think that she is exposing some sort of latent racism. we are not here to publicly shame her. the question is, though, would hillary and any of the people who support hillary, extend that same benefits of the doubt, that same courtesy to you?
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do you think if you said something like that hillary clinton would say it's you know, i don't know him that well, i'm not willing to judge him? he is probably just kidding. do you think that she would say that? >> no, and she wouldn't say that if you had said that. nevertheless, i am inclined to agree with you, that thereyo are 40,000 reasons to hound hillary clinton, but this isn't one of them. and i go back to what victor davis hanson set out the top of the show when he used that line that the cure is worse than thet disease. a society that destroys people over one remark like this is actually a very ugly and evil society, whatever wrongs it might think it is trying to write. hillary here, and i will say something else too, hillary is
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not the most sophisticated kind of communicator. she is someone who can tell cory booker from eric holder. one has got a mustache, one has no hair. so she is not actually using the line that all black people look alike to her. she is actually ironically teasing about an old cliche that she is not using for real. and actually that has all but been obliterated from public life now, where if you say something that is sly and ironic like that, you have to be hounded for it. >> tucker: exactly. and i guess what gets to me, as someone who has set a lot of dumb things, i hope that i always have a chance to explain what i meant. it seems that nobody has the right to have an apology taken seriously, or an explanation. we caught you, it's over.
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i don't know who makes these rules. >> while, one of the consequences of that is that everybody then wants of going around tiptoeing around on eggshells, and you can never tiptoe enough. steve on made a joke. he tweets a thousand times, and he says this one is a bit edgy or provocative. he has no idea that that joke was going to have people urging him on twitter to just go and kill himself, or to obliterate his career. and we can't have that. at some point, we have to let hillary survive her -- they all look alike joke because the premise of living in a world where one little remark absolutely destroys you, that world, that -- the cure is worse than the disease. >> tucker: i wonder if we are encouraging the mob on these cable channels. all right, take a look very quickly at this horrifying imag
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image. this is steven luster holt dressed up as susan boyle, the singer. he has changed his appearance in no way that is now very controversial.n he wore that for an episode of the today show. megyn kelly it was just fired for suggesting that it wasn't always bad to dress up as a member of an opposite race. i want to be clear, i don't think there is an equivalence between the two. there is a long history of one and not the other, but i also wonder --re five people in amera who would be deeply offended by what he did. i am not offended by it. maybe though if you do, you should be slightly less self-righteous in the face of other people's transgressions. >> i think there is an element of susan boyle-apohobia. again, it is not about anything
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real. the tradition, the blackface tradition in america is dead as a doornail. in 1942, he wore a black face for an abraham lincoln number, and ten years later, he did white face. somewhere between then, an entire tradition no longer became respectable. and again, the cure is worse than the disease. i was down in australia at -- a kanye west fan, she went to a party dressed as kanye west. she's a nobody. she's a 19 or 22-year-old kid. she is at the start of her life, and the entire australian media wanted to destroy her. this is actually evil. i would like for him to dress as susan boyle for a week. we should all get over this stuff. >> tucker: let people apologize. if there is no forgiveness, then
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you can't have a functioning society. mark, thank you very much. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: one of the top corroborating witnesses now says that he doesn't want to corroborate. he says that he was framed and he would like to get out of the plea deal. george papadopoulos is not man, and he joins us next. ♪ come fly with me, let's fly, let's fly away. ♪ from capital one.nd i switched to the spark cash card i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back. which i used to offer health insurance to my employees. what's in your wallet? hey guys. today we're here to talk about trucks. i love trucks. what the heck is that?! whoa! what truck brand comes from the family of the most dependable, longest-lasting full-size pickups on the road?
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heartburn and gas? ♪ fight both fast tums chewy bites with gas relief all in one relief of heartburn and gas ♪ ♪ tum tum tum tums tums chewy bites with gas relief >> tucker: former trump >> tucker: former trump campaign foreign policy advisor george papadopoulos has already pled guilty to a criminal offense. no he says hepa may seek to unda deal to cooperate with the mueller investigation. papadopoulos is that he was "ram" on the victim of serious misconduct by government investigators. george papadopoulos joins us tonight. i should not at the outset that despite having your life turned upside down, there is no
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evidence to say that you spied for russia, and so i feel for you and that way. to get specific care, this saga began for you, you might with this guy, a professor. it seems like we should hear from him. where is he today, this man?dedo >> thanks a lot for hosting may come as before. this is a very important person in this entire investigation, the man that everyone is looking at in the picture, is allegedly the russian agent who had information thatt the russians possessed hillary clinton's emails, which she then passed along to me. now new information has come out recently from this man's lawyer, and what his lawyer is telling the world is that this person was not working at the behest of russia when he was encountering and interacting with george papadopoulos and the trump campaign. he was under the guidance of the fbi. this information, if it's true, and there is no reason to believe that his lawyer is slandering his client and going against the interest of his own client, if it is indeed true,
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this information alone offends this entire investigation in my eyes, and a narrative of any russia conspiracy, russia collusion. >> tucker: that is for sure. now i wish we had an hour to talk. we don't. we have about 45 seconds. where is this guy? why isn't he on capitol hill explaining himself? >> i'm going with -- first of all, i did not receive exculpatory evidence, if i had that information beforehand, i probably would not have pled guilty. that's an entire other issue we can talk about at a future time. this person is hiding somewhere in europe apparently, according to his lawyer. being represented by a top law firm in london, dealing with his negotiations with the special l.unsel, and apparently he's going to becoming a public once once this investigation is over. >> tucker: have a our political system, he'll emerge. george, and your life: by the way. it was great topo talk to you tonight. that is all tantalizing.
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i hope we get to the bottom of it soon. thank you. we are out of time. that was a packed hour.ba we were back tomorrow, 8:00 p.m., they show that this ise for an enemy of flying, pomposity, smugness, and especially groupthink, all ubiquitous and bad. sean hannity, right now. .>> sean: we have a packed show as well. welcome to "hannity." terror strikes pennsylvania. over the weekend, file anti-semite racist murdering 11 people, injuring six more duriny naming ceremony at a synagogue. haight graham charges have been filed against the monster responsible, who should be punished to the fullest extent of the law and predictably and sadly, without skipping a beat, the mainstream media and their friends on the left are once again twisting the strategy and literally rushing to politicize this tragedy. when we thought it couldn't get any worse, they are now blaming president trump for the senseless actions of a madman who actually hates president trump. wesi will
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