i was rooting for them. i will take credit on this one. demanding to come into >> bill: it's a great year. united states saying they are they beat l.a. 4-1, they had a seeking asylum but they are actually coming for a job. great season, as well. which, by the way, it's fraud. anyway -- have a good party. harry reid has changed in we've got to run, everybody. opinions and son 93 but it doesn't change the fact >> julie: "outnumbered" starts now. that they'd come and give birth >> melissa: fox news alert, with just six days to go until and give a children citizenship. the midterms, new reaction to it complicates the illegal president trump's suggestion immigration system in their stomach america due to the fact that he could end birthright citizenship by executive order. that the child is now a citizen. growing questions over whether the parent is here illegally. such a move would be it makes them or complicate. are rewarded? constitutional. this is "outnumbered," i as harry reid said? melissa francis. with citizenship for the child? here today is town hall editor it means they are likely going and fox news contributor, to stay. katie pavlich. that creates a large magnet for national security analyst, illegal immigration in this morgan ortagus. fox news contributor a jessica country. in texas, is 25%. tarlov, and fox news senior so, there are issues like this that certainly come look at thi judicial analyst, judge this. one thing, president trump is andrew napolitano. very good at putting congress in he is outnumbered! a place where they have to do >> judge napolitano: happily their job. so. [laughter] >> melissa: let's get to it. excellent. this is their job. they said it yesterday, growing controversy to doing paul ryan. he is very good at putting

something controversial in the away with automatic citizenship for any children born to table and sing "you're right, it may not be my authority or duty to do this. noncitizen or illegal immigrant it's your turn." parents on u.s.tution. >> melissa: that is a great point. their responses "that's ours to top house democrat nancy pelosi do." and then you like "he just accusing the president of trying tricked you. he just trolled you and got to to erase parts of the nation's you. to go in there, and say you're founding document. the white house says democrats are to blame for the current the one who supposed be fixing situation. watch this. this." and then everybody says "go >> the reason we are in this ahead, then." position in the first place is >> morgan: we will talk a lot because democrats have failed to come to the table. about the politics. they have failed to work with as it relates to legality of this president and pass legislation that helps protect what congress should do, i'm not a lawyer, but this is what i was our country, that helps protect thinking about this morning and the citizens of america. talking to his people working because they don't want to this issue. secure our borders, they do not to be a part of the steam want to have a law and order putting this legislation. country. the reason we are in this clearly, congress has the power predicament is because democrats to legislate immigration. in congress have failed to do but i think the question is, do their job. the president is going to look they have the power to regulate at any way possible could find, citizenship? essentially what the team i was talking to on immigration said, legally and constitutionally, to just as the constitution says, only a natural born person can make sure we are doing every thing we can. run for president. we have interpreted that in the >> melissa: however, even some republicans are not on board cases of ted cruz and

with president. john mccain who are not physically born here. he is house speaker paul ryan. we say a natural born as being >> you can't end birthright born to the parents. is it therefore possible from a citizenship within a with an ee legal perspective to sort of -- for congress to make the same order. interpretation, that illegal -- we didn't like when illegal parents do not therefore president obama tried to change immigration within exec and vax. have the same rights? we believe in a constitution. as conservative, i am a fan of >> judge napolitano: i don't think it is. i understand what you're saying. first of all, the constitution following the plain text of the constitution. i think the 14th and then went grants congress the power over is pretty clear. >> melissa: or vulcan naturalization, not over senator lindsay lindsey immigration. congress has granted itself graham supporting the move. power in immigration. another argument for another on "fox & friends," they say time. [laughter] both sides have a strong case to congress can establish the means by which this happens, the means make. >> this has been a long-standing by which an undocumented -- the debate. there are good faith organism by offspring of a document of parents to become an american glycosides. citizen. this seems to report unlimited it can't stop it from happening. birthright citizenship. history, the text, some of the neither the president know nore drafters tend to go the other way. courts view causes like this as congress can -- only a having meaning. constitutional amendment can they don't just dispense them. change this. you can make it -- you can >> morgan: back to katie's certainly make a good faith point, then, the only thing they argument that it limits can do is to -- when they have birthright citizenship.

>> melissa: is so, here is the 7% last year that are born to illegal immigrants, as katie text of the 14th amendment -- pointed out, i don't think "all persons born or naturalized anyone realistically thinks the to the united states and subject constitutional amendment will to the jurisdiction thereof are get through. congress has to somehow dis- incentivize illegal immigration. citizens of the united states, and of the state wherein they >> judge napolitano: congress has a menu of many things it can reside. do to make immigration fairer, many, including the president, are focusing on that part. easier to administer, less president trump tweeting, expensive, less dramatic. "so-called birthright citizenship is not covered by but it can't deal with the the 14th amendment because of constitution. once here, the baby born is an the words subject to the american citizen. jurisdiction thereof. many legal scholars agree." >> katie: let's forget, president trump campaigned on judge, i'm glad you are here. this issue. it was dropped as a bomb in this there is extensive writing on both sides. this is not coming out of interview because the reporters ask about it. it was not proposal that the nowhere. it has been a conversation. president put out with the >> judge napolitano: i white house. disagree with my dear friend and he was asked in an interview and colleague, jonathan turley. that's how it came out. the idea that it's the new topic this is not been a serious for the president, or that he debate other than in academic simply bring it to the forefront circles. now, this is a part of his in fact, the 14th amendment has been in the constitution for 150 overall illegal immigration -- years. for 150 years, without it's a valid question when it exception, it has been consistently interpreted to mean comes to -- of >> jessica: we were up in whoever is born here is an arms, that lindsey graham is

american citizen. buying whatever he's selling. if you want to put it back on the screen, that phrase "subject he's been talking about this since 2010. >> katie: the biggest debate to the jurisdiction thereof," over the last couple of years on this very issue is the dreamers about which the president tweeted -- and you just read the and daca. tweet -- everybody here, except do the parents of daca recipients get to stay? for foreign diplomats and foreign heads of state, is if they were born who are brought illegally by the parents subject to the jurisdiction of when they were children, to give them amnesty and allow their the united states. illegals can be prostituted parents to stay because they are a family unit? that has always been the big question. >> judge napolitano: if the prosecuted, they are subject is the jurisdiction democrats take the house, they as those of us who are born will have a very narrow window here. with which to address immigration. that phrase "and subject to the >> melissa: and they probably won't. jurisdiction thereof," is there i wouldn't hold my breath. to make sure that somebody was president trump's show of not subject to our jurisdiction, support not welcomed by everyone in pittsburgh. as protesters turned out while like a foreign diplomat or a foreign head of state who gives he visited the city. birth here, that person is not but the white house and sing the an american citizen. visit was important, and it was that baby. >> melissa: make the other about consoling the community. argument. when they are saying -- what we will have a live report. plus, a new report claims does the other side think it special counsel merely's means? >> judge napolitano: that because the person is not loyal to the united states, and is investigation has ties between here for probably a temporary the associates and the wikileaks of hacked emails. we will get into that one. period of time, they do not deem ♪

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then-senator harry reid sat on the floor of the senate in 1993. listen. >> making it easy to be an eagle in illegal alien isn't enough. how about offering a reward for being illegal? no say in country would do that. right? guess again. if you break our laws by entering this question without permission and give birth to a child, we reward that child with u.s. citizenship. >> melissa: miss democrat? >> morgan: there's always a big a deal. there's a video of president obama, hillary clinton, joe biden, talking about needing a wall. these things exist. it was 1993. i'm sure that harry reid does not feel great about the fact that is circulating at this moment. he doesn't feel great about nuclear options at all of this. but it doesn't change what judge napolitano is saying about what this amendment means, in agreement of paul ryan. saying this is not something we do. what the president is clearly trying to do is make the last

six days, seven days before the pai'm open to that.medicare? lower premiums? extra benefits? midterms all about illegal immigration. it's open enrollment. he doesn't want to talk about time to open the laptop... anything else, which is shocking ...and compare medicare health plans. to me. he does have strong numbers on why? because plans change, so can your health needs. the economy. i don't know why he wouldn't be so, be open-minded. hammering the g.o.p. tax cuts look at everything - like prescription drug plans... and saying "i'm going to make you all richer, and richer, and oh, and medicare advantage plans from private insurers. richer." instead of this issue, which use the tools at medicare.gov democrats lead on by four or five points to betting on which or call 1-800-medicare. poll you look at. open to something better? they lead on who is best to start today. open enrollment ends december 7th. handle immigration. steve doocy on "fox & friends" last week had a panel of a dependent voters who came in to talk about the caravan. they all said "this is a humanitarian crisis. these people are seeking asylum. they need refuge. they're coming from places that none of us would ever want to be in." i know what president trump is doing, but it's not going to work. >> melissa: katy, let me ask you -- what i think president trump is doing is that he has an incredible political knack for turning the entire nation's conversation to exactly where he wants it to be. he says something like this, and it gets everyone talking. i don't know that he necessarily really wants to do this.

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president trump, the first lady, his daughter, and her husband, came to pittsburgh to pay their respects and to comfort a grieving community. the president and first lady laid stones and roses on the memorials outside the synagogue. the visit was sparking protests and some leaders said it's not the right time. the president counsel kellyanne conway said it's not about politics. >> the president never hesitated. he wanted to be there with the tree of life community to express his condolences along with the first lady, his daughter, and son-in-law. the president has shown up in las vegas, and parkland, florida -- he has been there for natural disasters that have struck different states and territories. for him, this is more of a natural place for him to be then people give them credit for. >> katie: david lee miller's life in pittsburgh. david? >> katie, president trump reflecting this morning on his trip to pittsburgh. he sent out a tweet addressing some of the controversy surrounding his visit. he said, and i quote, "milani

and i were treated very nicely in pittsburgh. the office of the president was shown great respect on a very sad and solemn day. we were treated so warmly. small protests were not seen by us. started far away. staged far away. the fake news stories are just the opposite. disgraceful. mr. trump was referring to the estimated thousands who took to the streets, who called on the president not to visit this city. some held up signs saying "hate isn't welcome." a less vocal group supported the president's visit. this grieving city is also divided. >> i think the president's visit was very much a distraction. i think it detracts from our ability as a neighborhood to go and mourn. >> if he didn't come, they would also have something to say. that he didn't the decency to come. >> during his neighbor, mr. trump, as is jewish custom,

place stones on a makeshift memorial outside the synagogue. he also met with the widow of a shooting victim as well as first responders. the alleged shooter, robert bowers, is scheduled to be in court tomorrow. the prosecution says they will then have the opportunity to present some of the evidence against him. the federal charges amount to 29 different counts, and if he is convicted, it is possible he could face the death penalty. katie. katie? a >> katie: thank you so much, david. judge napolitano, this is a complicated situation. we saw the protesters. we will note that the rabbi of the she shul, jeffrey myers, hs walking to the memorial. what we are thoughts? >> judge napolitano: i think the president of the right thing and going, whether it was popular or not. i think it's almost the moral duty of the president to embody a mourning nation when a

horrific tragedy like this happens. i think did it in a professional way. i think was wrong for them to keep the protesters away. the right right to express objn to what the government is doing is important, and if they can't hear it, the protest is frivolous. >> katie: morgan, your thoughts? >> morgan: we don't know if it was the police or federal secret service that kept them away. in most circumstances, i completely agree with you. i think there was probably a very intense security situation, that those men and women in law enforcement had to deal with on the ground. i don't know their reasons for doing it, but i think of utmost important yesterday and every day is giving with these families. realizing that thes still continue around the world, in europe, face anti-semitic acts and a daily basis. we just saw iran planning more attacks in europe.

we live as jews in a very perilous time. we have to worry about our safety. we have to worry about wearing religious ornaments, yarmulkes. hanukkah will be here before we knew it. normally, in america, we live in peace. we now have to think twice. i think a jew perilous have been doing that for a long time. for me, it's less than a borten who got to protest when and where. most important is that we griev grieve. we stamp out this ugly, ugly strain of anti-semitism that is trying to rear its head again in america. >> katie: everyone is allowed to protest any point, but is it appropriate to be doing it in front of a place of worship in a political sense when it's a moment for morning? the president was there to respect the victims. this group called "if not now" is a very far-left organization. it was a very poetical protest. not just about this one

situation. >> jessica: i don't think we are in a position to regulate how people are grieving and whether attitude is toward that president, the way he has handled anti-semitic attacks and the charge of being anti-semitic himself, even though he does have jewish family, to do that. where people are going to be proceeding to protesting. i think we should welcome that. there are very strong opinions hear from people who were not out there in the protesters, but the tree of life synagogue's rabbi said they didn't want him coming because he is a purveyor of hate speech. i'm a member of the reformed jewish immunity. over the weekend, i'm from new york city, which is not a big fan base for president trump. conversations about that, about the kind of rhetoric and the level of hysteria that has been ratcheted up by this president, who even said after an l bomber was found "i don't determine down, i could turn it up." his tweet about his visit, which

she said went warmly and well, he said it goes out to the fake news media at the end of it. he could take a breather there. let it rest. >> melissa: can i ask really quickly -- do you think the president is anti-semitic? >> jessica: i think the president has no problem being supported by people who are anti-semites. i know he has jewish family -- >> melissa: can you give an example? >> jessica: dinesh desousa. he has no problems with the attacks on george soros. he is given money to philanthropic causes parade he's a liberal, but that doesn't make him a war criminal. a traitor. when you see the thing said about george soros, understanding history -- i don't care what he did with the bank of england. $12 billion to promote freedom and democracy across this world? and to have more freedom for jews so they can go and practice and pray. when i hear from people and live aside saying "the answer is more prayer." that's exactly what these people

were doing. a holocaust survivor died here here -- >> katie: considering he has funded a number of anti-israel groups with their political allies in the united states. to say that it's all philanthropic, i don't think that's honest. i understand saying, look, take it from an anti-semitic perspective and say because george soros is jewish -- but saying that george soros is not allowed to face criticism when he is in the political fight, i think that's too far. i want to bring this back to this one issue. he went to an interfaith service earlier this week. you said it just feels like the country and the people are run down with an inability to come together and move forward on these issues. so, you know -- it's a time very difficult for that to happen. >> melissa: it really is, and it was -- the message of the rabbi that day, as she stood there, was "let's all stand up

together in unity, republican and democrat. christian, muslim, jew, american. all stand together and support each other, and say that this action was wrong. that we mourn these people have passed." that was really therapeutic. you got a sense from the whole group that is just exhausting to keep all the fighting -- >> judge napolitano: jessica's point is of the president does not convey that message. he continues to divide. >> jessica: he is also being attacked. he may be feels that he has to respond. >> morgan: we had a shooting, we had a male bomber, the worst anti-semitic attack in u.s. history -- there is no room for fake news media toning it up. just take a breather. >> katie: the migrant caravan heading north in the u.s. border while the pentagon puts more boots on the ground, sink 5200 groups are heading to the border. that will rise. days before the midterms. up next.

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>> melissa: as the migrant caravan continues a check to the southern border, the pentagon says that 5200 troops heading to the border could be just the beginning. after telling officials earlier it is sending helicopters, summit barriers, and giant spools of razor wire to brace for the campaign. the president hitting the issue again this morning, tweeting "our militaries being modal to mobilizer the southern border. many more trips coming. we will not let these caravans, which are also made up of some very bad criminals, to the u.s. our board is sacred, must come in legally. turnaround!" meanwhile, launching ads in congress. in congressional districts, pardon me. and in senate races. >> he strongly opposes president trump's border wall. now the caravan is coming.

yet, he is too liberal to care. >> melissa: what do you think, judge? >> judge napolitano: i will tell you what the law is. obviously, the president has the duty to keep people out who are attempting to come over the border at a nongovernmental porthole. you can't just cross the rio grande and expect to be able to stay here. he can use force to stop that from happening. the troops cannot set foot in mexico, and they cannot use weapons. so i don't think they are very happy about this. what happens to the people who legitimately knock on the door at a porthole and say "i want to claim asylum?" once the tip of there she was on american soil, and the portal is on american soil, the assignmenm claim must be taken. even if all members of the caravan show up, and it would take them weeks to get through m through. if they make claims for sound, the government will detain them. within six months, they will get hearing parade that's the law the president hates.

but that's the law he is obliged because he took an oath to do so, to enforce. >> melissa: jessica, i wonder if it changes the way people look at the caravan coming. i always say, we don't know what people are really thinking when they look at these things. does that change the way they look at it when you hear that there are two more right behind it? >> jessica: i think so. i think it adds to the argument that the right is trying to make, or certain members of the right. not the republican position. i would say this is going to be a long-term invasion, and that we don't have the means to counter it. which is why we are sending more troops than we have in iraq to the border now to greet will be 4,000 people coming in mid-december. what president trump had done has made it feel like an imminent threat, which goes back to what i'm saying in the first block discussion that he wants to have been illegal immigration conversation more than he wants to have a conversation about policy issues. especially health care, since he's now pretending that they would protect pre-existing conditions. >> melissa: you think that democrats are winning on this

issue, and i wonder if -- when you have people coming up, now in the past couple days, they have been reporting the other groups that are right behind them. oh, no, does it feel like there's not one group of people restitution and danger there all the presidents that it is a magnet and there's lots and lots and lots. >> jessica: the floodgates open. leading by four or five points, that's just above the margin of error. by the way, the way the president talks about you would think this was a massively -- >> katie: can i push back on that olympic west market argument has been made to the present is fearmongering because the caravan is too far away to a difference. what he's doing is getting ahead of the problem, instead of dealing with it when it's at the front door. if they are not deterred, they will come here. because, as judge napolitano was expanding, the law does not allow a border patrol customs enforcement to deport immediately, people from central america make assignmentm claims are come here illegally because of the way it set up. if you are from mexico, you can

be detained and deported right away. if you're from central america, you're required to be released into the united states. they forget to stay for ten years because you don't show up for your court hearing. this idea that we are not allowed to talk about the caravan as an imminent threat because it is far away is absurd. the reason why he is sending the military down there is in hopes that they will see a force on the border as a sovereign state to stop them from coming. if one comes and there's nothing done, another one comes. as you saw in the press conference earlier this week, department of homeland security and the deferment of defense have watched this caravan and they have said they use violence and forced to break through other international borders to continue their way north. the president has an obligation to stop that from happening. this be >> judge napolitano: and ask what the politics. how can they think this caravan is a winning issue for them? >> melissa: because you don't know what people are really thinking as they look at it. they don't necessarily tell the truth when they are polled.

that's where i was going with a comment of, you don't really know what people are thinking when they watch the video. morgan, i would say to you, one thing i find really interesting is watching a different channel -- they do interviews. >> morgan: you can't watch anything. [laughter] may be espn. >> melissa: when they do interviews with the people in the caravan, and you hear what they think about what's being said. one sound bite that william had earlier this morning was about the idea of people and they caravan saying the president has to say that, because if he doesn't say "no one can come in," our entire country -- all of honduras going to come tomorrow. >> morgan: you bring up a good point about honduras. my friend who was in dod policy for many years ready piece a couple days ago, and we are talking about it. he has done multiple deployments in iraq and afghanistan. we are talking about how these are, in central america, are a group of failed states. everybody here is reference.

the military -- let me say the comparison i've heard a lot of people say there are more troops on the board of then iraq and syria. it's a bad comparison. first of all, we were in iraq and afghanistan for 15 come almost 20 years at this point between the two. when the military has a mission, the size of the force is not determined by how many troops in iraq. the size of the force is determined by what the needs on the ground are. this comparison that people are making across multiple networks, comparing it to syria, i think is just misleading. that's not what the mission is. further, what the judge said -- and maybe i'm misinterpreting this, but sort of implying that the military did not like this mission. i can tell you -- and i don't speak on the behalf of the departed of vents -- as a reserve officer, our opinions don't matter. whether it's for barack obama or president trump, we will execute the orders because that's the oath of office that i took and all all of the members of the military active-duty reserve, we did it. the context doesn't matter.

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♪ >> morgan: new developments in the russian investigation. "the washington post" is reporting that special counsel robert muller's team interviewed former white house chief strategist steve bannon last friday. the investigators reportedly focusing on former trump senior advisor roger stone.

and, whether he knew that wikileaks founder julian sanchez planned to leak hacked emails from former clinton campaigner. those mills released on the same day as the tape of then then-candidate per trump's release. they are probing whether wikileaks court made the activities with stone and with the campaign. stone telling the post that there is no such communication, and denying any prior knowledge of the emails. so, jessica, that's pretty interesting. to say the least. i thought for a long time that this investigation would come down to stone, just because he was bragging so much publicly about having this information. once again, he is completely denying it. if robert mueller has proof. here's what i'm interested -- do you think, if roger stone is found to be guilty of this or have this association, how much

does this actually affect the president given that stone was fired early on in the campaign process? >> jessica: i think it's up to bob mueller if it does and how many doxies connecting beyond roger stone. i think there's a few people linked to the campaign for various mess of time that we all have acknowledged many times on this couch are just dirty dealers. like paul manafort, roger stone, carter page. former advisor to the kremlin. it gets russia back into the conversation. if you notice, we have got a few weeks, actually. >> melissa: i did notice that. >> except for the treaty. >> judge napolitano: we had a few weeks because mueller -- he has fastidiously complied with the doj regulations not to make announcements in the 60 days preceding a national election, unless it's necessary to prevent somebody from leaving the country. >> i think that's generous. >> judge napolitano: i have known roger stone for 40 years. >> i'm sorry.

a >> judge napolitano: that's all right. going back to the nixon and reagan years. roger stone was fired by the campaign a year and a half before these alleged events occurred. roger stone has taken and passed two lie detector tests administered by former fbi agents. i don't see a case against him. that doesn't mean he won't be indicted. that doesn't mean they won't try to squeeze in. i don't think it will get to first base if they do try to squeeze him. that's where it stands. >> morgan: it would almost be a badge of honor for him in some ways. you know, melissa, one of the things i think is curious about this in the whole investigation in general is how much the end goal has moved on this. i think in the start of this investigation, people thought there was going to be a literal phone call between trump and putin organizing this whole thing. even politico has reported that the expectations are being tamped back pretty dramatically. at least in what we are seeing so far, there is nothing related

to the president at all. at least in the public record. things could change, but it's not out there yet. >> melissa: we don't know. there's just -- i don't think we have any idea where it has gone, what it's going to include, what the conclusion is going to be. if it's going beyond collusion. it strikes me that we have all made a bunch of assumptions, or some people have made assumptions, based on what they have read in the media. sometimes you see things as he reported that you know are not the case, and certainly that's what people inside the investigation have said "don't believe what you read in the news," and just based on curiosity i would like to see the whole thing come to an end. it's kind of like reading a book for a long time or watching a movie for a long time. and you're like "please tell me how this thing ends. it's been going on so long." >> morgan: katie, can i skip at the politics of it? if the report comes out and they get him on line to the fbi, or get a few things like that, what -- >> judge napolitano: he has not been interviewed by the fbi.

>> morgan: not at all? interesting. >> melissa: he says he's willing to cooperate with mueller, but he won't testify against the president. >> morgan: oh, got it. >> melissa: that's what we think so far. according to the report we have here. >> morgan: i'm wondering what we think official we politically. let's say the democrats take over next week. to take action. unless there's a major bombshell coming out for mueller before the end of the year that no one was expecting, this looks to be like something would be very difficult for democrats to act on. >> katie: i was giving the judge a hard time about being generous. i think the reason we haven't heard about russia in recent weeks is because if you look at pulling -- and we are up against an election -- people don't care about this. they think resources are not being wasted. you look at the polling numbers of the approval of the probe, and although the majority people think he should be able to finish, they think it's politically motivated and they wanted to end. democrats have use this since president trump got elected as a political talking point against the white house that is not and has not been resonating on the campaign trail.

therefore, it has dropped out of the narrative. i'm not sure we will even see it come back. >> judge napolitano: who does his silence help? are republicans or democrats? >> katie: i don't know. we will have to wait and see. [laughter] >> morgan: on that note, joe biden is not holding back, ripping the president on the campaign trail. but, why democrat candidates themselves have little to say by the president in this midterm cycle. we will debate their strategy next. >> i think we all know in our gut, there's something different about the selection. for real. [applause] we are in the battle for the soul of america now. ♪ e. it was environmentally contaminated. one of the biggest successes we had early on, was entering agreements with the epa on cleaning up the property. we're recycling over 98% of the products on site. the impact that this project will have on the community will be enormous.

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♪ >> former vice president joe biden tearing into president trump for the second day in a row. this time, they come down at camping stop in madison, wisconsin yesterday. take a watch. >> i'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. i am sick and tired of this administration! [cheers and applause] i am sick and tired of what's going on! i'm sick and tired of being sick and tired! i hope you are, too! [cheers and applause] >> former president obama also on the campaign trail in recent

weeks, keeping criticism on republicans and the president. in the meantime, a new report found that trump came up in just 10% of political ads from mid-september to mid-october. only about half of them are negative. that is by far the lowest proportion of attack ads against a sitting president since the 2002 midterms when george w. bush's popularity was soaring. political strategists say this is striking because of the president's low approval rating. they said democrats think that the feelings on trump are big didn't, so they are focusing on health care instead. judge, are you sick and tired? [laughter] i'm sick and tired. a >> judge napolitano: as i was saying it would break, i was on the faculty of delaware law school back in 1978 and 1979. i know it seems like 100 years ago. >> i wasn't born. [laughter] >> judge napolitano: joe biden was on the faculty. once you are a friend of his, you are a friend of his for a long time. i would turn the question around. is he going to run in 2020? why is he doing all these favors for democratic candidates? why is he getting in the face of

the president unless he wants to -- >> melissa: he likes it. >> jessica: he likes it, he wants us certainly to win the midterms. he has toyed and running for president in every single election. >> judge napolitano: to the extent that he believes the midterms are a referendum on the present. a lot of people believe that. for him to say "i'm sick and tired" is a way to generate the attitude of the democratic base and get them to come." >> jessica: absolutely, that's all the figures have been saying. hillary clinton even said she will talk on "20/20" after. would you think of this, katie? >> katie: i think is probably going to to run. i don't think what kind of a chance he has about white men enter sexuality, but i think he might have somewhat of a chance against president trump to get through that primary. and think he needs more lines than "sick and tired" unless we are going to write a joke bookt dead jokes from joe biden. [laughter] >> morgan: i'm going to call

total b.s. on this prehe's not sick and tired, the democratic party isn't sick and tired of it. they love it. they are addicted to heating trump. they are addicted to hating him. the media loves it, as katie said here there's nothing more than they want to pound on him for the next two years. they are salivating to do it. >> jessica: my text messages would reflect that, it's true. ronna mcdaniel talking about health care, earlier. >> the democrats have really tried to fearmonger on health care, and tried to tell people that republicans are going to take pre-existing conditions. it's flat out false. the president has been on on te stump. the stories, of their kids and their mothers who have pre-existing conditions. of course, he would never take away that right. that's one thing the democrats are trying to do. they try and scare their voters. we are running on higher wages, more jobs, our economy doing well, taking on the opioid crisis. >> judge napolitano: republicans like a core feature of obamacare. that's the way i read that.

>> jessica: there is so much tape of governor walker, martha mcsally, ron desantis. they know that health care is the number one issue. melissa? >> melissa: i think health care, it's a government program. now it has become like the post office. everyone is going to hate it all the time, and say that the service is terrible. whatever it is. whoever is in charge is going to get blamed for what's going on. it has become a government-run program. it's falling apart at the seams. somebody needs to fix it. nobody has the political will to actually do it. whoever is in power can get clobbered over the head with it. >> jessica: it is our program, and now obamacare is more popular create it as obamacare. more "outnumbered" in just a moment. >> judge napolitano: you did it, melissa

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multistate blitz to boost republicans, six days out from the midterms. we go "outnumbered overtime," i'm harris faulkner. president trump is kicking off his final campaign rallies today, visiting 11 cities in six days. air force one will take the president to battleground florida, home to a tight race is for the senate and governor and a host of house races. sarah sanders marveling at the loss of stamina, we all are. he says he can