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do you see? >> i think republicans hold the senate. i'm less optimistic. >> i have nothing to add. >> charles: that will do it. neil will be back tomorrow. "the five" starts right now. ♪ >> i'm jesse watters with jedediah bila, juan williams, judge jeanine pirro and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five" ." in six days, voters head to the polls to decide who will control congress and the critical midterm elections. president trump kicks off his final campaign blitz in florida. bernie sanders will also be holding a dueling rally. the president confident about republicans chances on tuesday. >> it seems that the campaign is going very well. looks like we are doing very,
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very well in the senate. a lot of seats that were not really being thought of in terms of victories a year ago now are looking like they could very well be victories. the houses a lot of people. there are a lot of people. they were going to do well in the house also. i know we are doing well in the senate and it looks like we are doing okay in the house. >> jesse: trump also issuing a new warning about what will happen if democrats take the house. speak with him and terms for some reason don't do so well for republicans, i think you're going to lose a lot of money. i hate to say that. i think you're going to lose a lot of money. people are waiting on their 401(k)s and everything else. they are waiting to do what happens with the midterms. >> jesse: nancy pelosi already taking a victory lap, predict -- predicting her party has the -- >> i predict we would win. now i am saying we will win.
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we will win. >> do you want to say that on hillary's fireworks barge? please don't say that. >> we own the ground. we are not yielding one grain of sand. >> jesse: wow. she guaranteed victory in 2016 too. what do you think about her prediction? >> judge jeanine: i don't think much of pelosi. they use hollywood celebrities all the time. it doesn't matter. hillary thought she was a celebrity. the president went out and campaign for hillary. in the end, it didn't matter. barbra streisand said she was moving to canada. now she's threatening to move to canada again. they always say that. in the end, the republicans care about their money. the president is right. i think there's a little trouble in the house. >> jesse: sounded like the president wasn't as confident in the house as he was in the senate, greg.
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what do you make about the tone? >> greg: if barbra streisand moves to canada, i hear canada is moving to new zealand. here's what i think. both sides are doing the same thing right now. they are railing at the base. they lark motivational speakers who tell you the worst possible scenario. don't do that to me. if trump wins mack, the left says granny will be pushed off a cliff and they will take her social security. white men are going to put little boys in cages. but if trump wins, all caravans are welcome in english will be there and in high school. the reality is actually true. creating a broad assumption based on stereotypes and they are both doing it. they are both guilty. >> jesse: trump's tactic could be more true than the other scare tactics.
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the economy, juan. wage growth highest in a decade. consumer confidence highest since 1998. someone very smart on neil cavuto's show said in 1988 was the last time consumer confidence was this high and bill clinton's party did very well in the midterm elections. how do you see the economy playing in this years midterms? >> juan: i think it's obvious. the republicans can't run on it that's why the president has to resort to fear and loathing in fright night early. sending troops to the border. gangsters, ms-13, diseases approaching the border and i'm sending troops. what kind of madness is it? greg is right. a lot of things are being said that just aren't true. >> greg: i said both sides. i was being fair. >> juan: yeah, but i'm not being fair. >> greg: oh! >> juan: there is no analogous action by the democrats.
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what you have is president trump -- >> jesse: democrats say there's going to be a civil war and hitler and he's going to lock up -- >> juan: i don't think democrats are saying a civil wa civil war. >> greg: blood on the streets. taking social security. >> juan: i think they are more ofalways talking about health ce is the chief issue. everyone's health care is going to be taken away. what are we even talking about? >> juan: isn't it true that republicans promise that once they took over, they would repeal and replace. >> jedidiah: you are saying that's not a scare tactic? >> juan: that's what republican savior republicans haven't done anything and only belatedly now is the president saying if you have pre-existing conditions, i would consider it. he is late to the game. >> judge jeanine: are you kidding, juan? the economy, consumer confidence. >> juan: we were talking about health care. >> judge jeanine: he got rid of the individual mandate.
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>> juan: that's why democrats are running ads and why they are having success by saying to americans right now that health care is in jeopardy under trump. >> greg: when they use fear tactics, they are telling the truth? but when anyone else -- social security for one. in talking about how evil trump is, how racist and insane. >> juan: that's not a fear tactic. >> greg: i am pointing out what you just did. >> jedidiah: why is it crazy to talk about securing a border. immigration -- >> juan: jesse and i have been over this 1,000 times. remember when obama, remembering other people put in additional security of the border. >> jedidiah: the reason the economy -- >> jesse: opera hitting the campaign trail tomorrow in georgia to stump for stacey
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abrams. taylor swift posted she is voting for democrat phil bredesen in tennessee and is urging fans not to sit this one out. greg, celebrities getting involved. oprah. >> greg: oprah is different than alyssa milano, will ferrell. >> jesse: she is an icon. i believe the new -- >> greg: it cancels the positive impact of their famous space. you have someone like, when someone gets into politics as a celebrity, they are stunted. it's like their politics are back where they were when they decided to chase fame. it's like a 17-year-old. for ten years, they've been all about themselves. finally they feel guilty about this and they go, i'm going to become politically aware. but they are back where they were when they stopped reading. >> judge jeanine: it's even worse than that.
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it's not like ten years. it's the fact, what do they do for a living? they don't think. they memorize lines of the people right. >> greg: oh, well, we kind of do that too. everybody has a right to an opinion, but we have to be able to analyze and say where are they in the road to life? >> judge jeanine: what do they know? what's their experience? what is it based on? i'm famous so therefore believe me and everyone in my ilk. >> jesse: he has piles of notes. >> greg: i didn't get to my notes. >> juan: a couple weeks ago you told me kanye west, he's great. he's so smart. talk about a hallowing surprise. >> greg: that has nothing to do with his stance on trump. >> juan: back when he was 17 i knew nothing. how about donald trump? he's a celebrity politician. >> jedidiah: they were talking about the right of kanye west to have an opinion. >> greg: you are attacking him
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for other reasons, juan. >> juan: using profanity and republicans loved it. >> jesse: i will say no one on this side called oprah or any of these other taylor swift people mentally ill. >> juan: kanye said -- >> jesse: no one said a lot of disgusting things about anyone for endorsing anyone. kanye west suffered some of the most horrible rhetoric about anyone on television, besides me. he didn't deserve it. that came from your side. >> juan: the guy has bipolar disorder by his own admission. >> jesse: you have another disorder. it's called trump derangement syndrome. it isn't a deadly predator. or a made-up creature. it doesn't have wings, horns or teeth.
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i would rather do it through congress because it's permanent. if president obama could get daca approved, certainly we can do daca, we can do this by executive order. the democrats have left immigration in our country and get out of control with their horrible, not allowing us to have any votes to get passage. >> juan: the president and conservatives pointing out harry reid's comments about these very issue from 25 years ago. >> is making it easy to be an illegal alien is enough, how about one reward for being an illegal immigrant? no sane country would do that. if you break our laws by entering this country without her permission and give birth to a child we reward that child with u.s. citizenship and guarantee full access to all public and social services this society provides, and that's a lot of services.
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>> juan: former senator reid issued an issue statement saying he was wrong then and president trump is wrong now. >> judge jeanine: there are three questions. what is the constitution say? if you are born or naturalized here and subject to the jurisdiction, your citizen. then the question is, have the courts apply this? the courts have only ruled on one case and that involved a guy by the name of juan camp, a legal resident alien. the couple had a baby who was born here. the supreme court said 13 years later after the 14th amendment, no problem. they are legal resident aliens, ergo that child can be considered for automatic birthright. the most important thing to consider when they talk about birthright citizenship is the 14th amendment which ratified in 1868.
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it was right after the civil war. it was during the construction period where they wanted to make sure that the were given the ability to be citizens and vote. there's no question that no other country in the world grants automatic citizenship. >> juan: what about mexico and canada? >> judge jeanine: it's not automatic. you have to have a parent is been in the country for a period of time, not someone like that in los angeles where two-thirds of the babies born in county run hospitals are born to illegal immigrants who just got there. that is the difference. you cannot say any other country in the world does this. the third most important thing is not just the cost, because its billions. the supreme court ruled a few years back any illegal, any child born here who was born here is that it tied to education and health care and all that other stuff.
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it will cost us billions. how do we change it? someone can take a court case. congress can pass an act or the president can do an executive order. i'm going to end here. the most significant part is section five of the 14th amendment says congress has the power to enforce by appropriate legislation any provisions of this article. so they recognize that in a time when you could not anticipate illegals coming in, where the only issue in context where the slaves and they left out the american indians. do you know why? they have jurisdiction, they are under the jurisdiction of tribal lands. >> juan: you said a lot. >> greg: i'm glad my notes helped you. >> juan: she stole your notes. >> judge jeanine: no, i didn't didn't. >> juan: all that you said,
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judge, came down to what paul ryan says. you can't do this unless you change the constitution and he doesn't say see that. today the president went after paul ryan and told him to shut up. >> jedidiah: whether or not you can do it by executive orders up by debate. iraq meant he would not do it for the same reason i advocated president obama not to -- the reason is that even if the policy make sense for the time in question, people will automatically demonize you because of the way that you went about it by executive order. >> judge jeanine: i think he's going to do both. >> jedidiah: you have to be able to ask questions about whether, everyone is demonized all the time for just asking a question. you have to be looking at a policy and save the reason it was dreamed up doesn't fit society as it stands now. should be a policy that should be happening now? should it be that someone can come illegally with the sole
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intent of wanting to give birth to baby that has automatic citizenship and gains access to a bunch of benefits that citizens get here. you have to be able to question that. it doesn't mean you can make a change by executive fiat but it does mean that the topic comes up for debate. people who brought it up should not automatically be demonized. it happens all the time. he's already been demonized. >> juan: you are the king of het the fact is harry reid did support with doing away with it. >> jesse: the reason he changed his mind was because the afl-cio change their position on illegal immigration because they wanted more hispanics to come over here so they could pay union dues and fill up those roles. here is some what aboutism. i find it funny how liberals believe illegal aliens crossing the border and having american babies is enshrined in our constitution, but the right to
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bear arms isn't enshrined in our constitution. major hypocrisy there. excellent job summarizing the legal thing, the only thing i would add is what i said yesterday, the drafter of the 14th amendment, jacob howard, said it should not apply to persons in the united states who are foreigners and aliens. this is a big issue because nearly 10% of babies born in this country are from illegal aliens. you have to combine this with the law and eliminating the lottery and eliminating the chain migration because right now it's out of control. >> juan: we have had filibusters. now i turned to greg gutfeld. >> greg: i will summarize in human terms. 290,000 births from this kind of, i don't know what you would call it, a dramatic leap over the past decade. the reason is that word travels fast when there's a loophole. this is true in every part of life. in high school when you heard some parents want to a commander but he knew that's where you want to party. so when people know you can get
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free alcohol at somebody's house, you go. i don't blame -- but i am saying is i don't blame people for seeking out a loophole. i blame the people who don't fix the system once they know the loophole as they are. i think donald trump understands how people see unfairness in this because he's always about reciprocity and fairness. you get angry. the most fundamental human anger is one somebody cuts in front of you. the thing that drives me crazy, you try to get for them the airport to the rental car and you get on the tram in the last on gets to be the first person in line at the rental car agency. i don't think i ever get as mad as i get at that point. i have been waiting for 20 minutes. then all of a sudden, he is first in line. that is bogus. i think trump understands that emotion that is very real, very human. >> jesse: that reminds me. i have to confess something. i caught 100 people in the tsa line the other day.
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i'm sorry! i was going to miss a flight. >> juan: we didn't discuss the fact that of course this issue comes up now, two days before the midterms, because donald trump -- >> greg: who started the caravan, juan? your side. >> juan: ben & jerry's the ice cream guys joining the resistance by serving up a new flavor of ice cream, anti-trump ice cream. that's next on "the five" ." hey there people eligible for medicare.
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political. you can't escape it. look at the label. maybe it's me, but i prefer not to be glared at while eating ice cream. i get that at home without the curtain. thanks to the left, keeping politics out of regular life is seen as complicit to evil. if you don't join our mad crusade, you are the problem too. i bet this stuff tastes good but who cares. the company says that by purchasing this glop, you will be supporting "groups who are fighting president trump's regressive agenda." but they should add while also adding to your deadly obesity because isn't that what ben & jerry's does? they speak calories to power. according to the nih come obesity and being overweight leads to 300,000 deaths per year in the u.s. that is second only to smoking. the message is simple. if obesity kills that many people a year and i screaming too obese, how large a role does ben & jerry's play in this? aren't they part of the problem? they are like overweight marlboro man.
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maybe that's why they play up the activism. they want you to think their heart is in the right place as they are busy clogging yours. judge, this doesn't make me want to eat ice cream. i like it to be fun. a >> judge jeanine: i have to confess i love cherry garcia. i went from the ice cream to the ben & jerry's yogurt. here's something for you. i'm never eating it again. why would they alienate me? why go out of their way to alienate people who are giving you money? maybe you don't need my money. good. >> jedidiah: why would you marginalize half the country? people say this polarization of products really works. ben & jerry's has been so political for so long. they endorsed bernie sanders. they endorsed same-sex marriage in vermont with the special ice cream flavor.
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if it wasn't financially working for them. you know your ice cream. i feel like they would know that if it wasn't working. people say this works. >> greg: i don't think people pay attention. one of these groups has linda sarsour involved, a notorious anti-semitic, has set awful things about people. >> jesse: they have alienated half their customer base. in order to make this fun, i've created my own ice cream flavors. antiliberal flavors. abolish i.c.e. cream. peter strzok chocolate. mooch tracks. >> juan: [laughs] i don't think scaramucci is going to appreciate that. >> jesse: nougat gingrich.
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about the monologue. was that a spoof? >> greg: 300,000 people die a year from obesity. >> juan: what are you going to say about papa john's? he is a right wing nut. he says horrible things. >> greg: i don't eat pizza. there are dietary issues we can't get into here. [laughter] i usually -- ice cream for breakfast. >> juan: judge, because you are a fan of ben & jerry's, i the you should get a vat of chubby hubby for your friend, donald trump. >> judge jeanine: that is mean. donald trump is going to be dancing on election night. a >> greg: this really is their penance. they are contributing to the
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death of people. >> juan: i thought you were joking. ice cream contributes to the death of people? >> jesse: you are the ones that said tax cuts were going to make people die. >> juan: what did i say? >> jesse: you and nancy. >> greg: is there anyone in my ear or do you take the day off? a liberal comedian is calling out the media for how they cover trump. that's ahead. fact is, every insurance company hopes you drive safely.
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♪ >> judge jeanine: we know president trump president trump isn't afraid of calling out fake news, but what's refreshing is when you hear someone like liberal comedian jon stewart criticized the media for how they cover the president. watch this. >> i think journalists have taken it personally. they are personally wounded and
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offended by this man. he baits them and they dive in and what he's done while his appeal to their own narcissism, their own ego. what he says is these are, journalists, say how dare you? they take it personally. he has change the conversation. >> judge jeanine: so, juan, you perked your head up first. why do you think of the fact that jon stewart is saying that the media, they feel so grieved by donald trump winning the presidency that they feel that they have the right to attack and stewart is saying wait a minute. this is how you're making your money. >> juan: that was an interesting interpretation. i heard something different. i heard him say that the press reacts to donald trump personally, that they take it as an insult to their profession. i know many journalists.
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donald trump is like if you want to engage on that level, i will go at you because i will be anti-media and my base will react. i think jon stewart is onto something, and i've heard this from others, including chris wallace hussein need to back away. maybe you shouldn't engage trump because it feeds the fire. >> judge jeanine: do you think donald trump is fighting with the media because he believes a lot of it is fake news and he's given himself the opportunity to avoid talking about things because it's about fight. when something happens on the road, everyone is rubbernecking. they would rather watch the fight. they continue to fight with him. >> jesse: the country loves watching people battle and they love watching the media take it on the chin.
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the media is not well-liked and when they want to complain, the rest of hardworking americans work with our hands and take care of their kids and have tough jobs and don't love their jobs like the media do, they look at these people in the front row of sarah sanders whining and complaining and preening and they think, are you serious? am i supposed to feel sorry for you? absolutely not. what has happened is donald trump has won the war against the media. 13% of the american people believe the media covers both sides accurately. right now 33% think fake news is the any of enemy of the americn people. cnn was ranked dead last is the least trusted name in news. trump is winning the war on the media and the media doesn't realize it. >> judge jeanine: network coverage is so hostile to republicans. 88% negative on republicans. is this -- reacting so negatively that they are takingg
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it out on every republican? >> greg: they don't like republicans. stewart is right. if you want the media to focus on you, the easiest thing to do is mention them. they are self obsessed and thin-skinned. cuomo's instagram. it can be summarized as "love me." the media is like a self-driving car. push the button and get in the backseat and their insecurities do all the work. cnn is ripping fox news because they see fox news as a proxy for america. they can't stop. what's worse than fake news is the commentators and websites whose sole jobs is to watch you work for a living and they wait for you to say something they can misinterpret and then they use it to hurt you. they will put it up. it's the lowest job in media and
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if you have that job, quit. >> jedidiah: i think the media is not used to being challenged by a republican politician. it shows. president bush took the high road a lot. he didn't pick on them when they were picking on him. i think trump needs to walk a fine line. he's talking about fake news when he's talking about the enemy the people that he asked to clarify. there are hardworking journalists out there that do a good job. those who are completely and totally biased all the time cannot handle that someone is willing to say you are completely and totally biased all the time. that's the pushback. >> jesse: greg said cnn is attacking fox because we are proxy for america. trump is attacking the media because they are a proxy for the
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democratic party. juan saying that the media is so obsessed with facts. there is a litany of things they've gotten wrong under this president. it's not based on errors and mistakes. it's not sloppy. it's driven by hate and when you hate, making mistakes. >> juan: the carob the -- the . this is a fake issue. >> greg: liberal activist. jane depp by liberal activists . just like the kavanaugh hearings. >> juan: you know what blew up in our face? >> jesse: the caravan, juan will take them in. >> judge jeanine: it's time for fun and lots of candy. no ice cream.
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♪ >> jedidiah: trick or treat. i don't know what's going on here. we are celebrating halloween with a ton of candy and a bunch of fun stories. there is a nationwide push to permanently move hallowing from october 31 to the last saturday of the month. thousands have signed a petition urging the white house to shift the annual holiday to the weekend so it's safer and more stress-free. what do you think about that, judge? >> judge jeanine: i grew up in upstate new york. it's really cold up there. elmira, new york. my mom is still there. hi, mom. i had to wear winter coat over my costume. i think they should move it to july. >> jesse: you can't wear a
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mask in july. if trump ends up switching halloween, the liberals will go nuts. i like the idea, if hallowing falls on a weeknight, people still celebrate and go nuts on the saturday preceding it. then you get two halloweens. >> jedidiah: what if you are a parent works during the week and can't take your kids out. if it's on saturday, you have a whole day and you can make it a habit near not so stressed out. coming home from work, rushing around. >> juan: it's a good idea. to me it's an inventive thing. invented thing. do it at a convenient time. for the kids, the kids like the idea that they go out and it's unpredictable. it's time to go. got to get out of here. that's fun. >> jedidiah: greg, a study recently showed 86% of parents
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steal their kids halloween candy. this seems to me like something you might be guilty of. >> greg: no, no. i think halloween is nothing more than christmas verse eightr satanists. pagan rituals by godless heathens. this is the longest halloween ever. it's on wednesday. i've had to endure holiday parties on friday, saturday. skipped sunday. last night and tonight. it's as though we keep repeating the same stupid, lame segments. how many times i were going to talk about halloween and stupid candy? i am tired of it. >> judge jeanine: i love it. >> greg: it's a pagan holiday for satanists. at what is with mutilating
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gourds? one of these pumpkins done to you? mutilating and gourd. where are the vegetable rights people? >> jedidiah: am kind of buy you a "get off my lawn" t-shirt. >> juan: you are upset about everything. i thought you were going to blame the democrats for halloween. >> greg: you do wear a lot of costumes. you pretend to be compassionate, smart, interested in the econom economy. >> jedidiah: someone is having a cranky day. i can't imagine who that is, gregory. >> juan: it's not a one-time event. >> jedidiah: this story caught my attention. you get halloween candy and you don't like the candy you get. some people gave raisins to me one year. i will never forget you. but now there's a vending machines where you can go and trade your candy. >> greg: it's a great idea. >> jedidiah: why can't i think of these things? >> jesse: it's a good idea.
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how does it work. i would throw a rock in there. >> judge jeanine: you put anything in and they give you reese's. >> jedidiah: it's in manhattan manhattan. >> juan: are you really going? >> judge jeanine: i'm going to eat this for dinner. >> jedidiah: did you ever go trick-or-treating and get something terrible? money is good. >> greg: all right, okay, when somebody gives you money, that means they are generally drunks who didn't realize it was halloween. open the door there's little creatures dressed up and they are going what is this? they go into their pocket and throw money and slam the door. that was my neighborhood. >> juan: by 9:00, greg gutfeld is probably not answering the
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>> time now for more thing. >> go to fox to foxnewspodcast.com, i have a great interview, an excellent writer, we talk about tribalism, we talk about heated rhetoric and its potential effect on harmful deeds. now, check it out, greg's halloween treat news. i got some footage in hollywood of alec baldwin, he actually dressed up for halloween as a hippo and i think we have tape of him munching on a halloween treat. a look at. amazing. you might be right, that the cincinnati zoo and botanical garden. isn't that amazing? eating that entire pumpkin. hippos are just the most awesome beast, they seem like they want to be left alone. if i were an animal, i would be a hippo. >> so today it was just a gorgeous, beautiful day in boston and all the more because it was beautiful due to the
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red sox celebrating in the world series championship. the team, andrew boston style, road duck boat to city hall. it was the red sox's fourth championship in 15 years, and to get this, boston teams have won 11 championships in the last 15 years. you know what got my attention? there were anti-yankees chance. that rivalry more important to the red sox fans than beating the dodgers. >> they are heading to the border. the caravan. >> i've got to tell you, i'm still dreaming about my nationals. >> keep dreaming. >> one day. >> you are a nationalist, i didn't know that. >> we go. >> my man makes these great suits. check out book a tailor. check out what he does from the inside. exclusively tailored for -- are
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we missing an '? do i have to send this back? come on! punctuation! and also on martha's show, whoever will be talking about oprah, we will be talking about kanye west and halloween. don't miss it. judge jeanine. >> all right, every year in this country, women suffering from domestic violence end up leaving their homes to take shelter and they take their children with them. timing is not something over which they have any control. they mostly leave with nothing, and when you think about t sense of normalcy in their lives, so in new york, my sister's place, which is a shelter, takes a nearly 15,000 women and children every year who seek refuge from violence. i've been on that board for 30 years. they work in violence in intimate relationships and combat the effects as it relates to children. the next time you go to buy a
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halloween costume, help a child who is not at home anymore. send it to your local shelter for battered women and visit their website to learn how you can donate. >> what a great one more thing. >> it halloween, i have the "the five" edition, that is my dog, emma, when she was a patriot. she was also a biker girl at ona bee. he's dressed as a pirate -- that's not in order, i'm sorry. that's a boston red sox champion player. and mike's fearless dog chilling next to a skeleton, that's pretty cool. that's braver than you were in the haunted house the other day. and here we go, dressed as a pirate. honestly, so cute when you dress your animals out. they love it. >> they just love it, don't i?
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i am over the dog thing and the halloween thing. >> we need some joy today. >> all right, go knock on greg's door. set your dvr to every episode of "the five." "special report" is up next. >> bret: these races could decide the balance of power in the u.s. senate. tonight's headlines, stories we are following at this hour. president trump says the number of military troops deployed to the u.s. mexican border could go as high as 15,000. also today, the president saying the right to citizenship for babies born to non-u.s. citizens on american soil will be ended one way or another. if stocks were up on wall street today, but not nearly enough to offset a terrible october for investors. we will go through all the numbers shortly.
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