. we will so see you monday from missouri. it's game time, everybody on board. let not your truck, heart be troubled, laura is next. thanks for being with us. at ♪ >> laura: i am laura ingraham, and this is "the ingraham angle." there are two things that hang in the balance. an economy as evidenced by today's job report. it's roaring, my friends. and in immigration policy that makes sense. my simple message is this. let's not stop success, america and, i'm talking about people

with different races, and they are deciding the neck and neck race here between martha mcsally republican and democrat kyrsten sinema. we will talk to make sally just ahead but first we wanted to hear from the voters themselves. we start with the pressing issue of immigration and how illegals have affected this border state. raymond arroyo joins me for the questioning of this group. here's part one. i want to begin with an issue that's front and center right now, and thus the issue of immigration. there are multiple caravans barreling toward our border, and a lot of the migrants could end up in your backyard. how many of you think you should welcome all member of the caravan despite evidence that there are criminals within the group. raise your hand.

all members of the caravan. >> i don't think there's criminals in the group. >> you don't think there are any criminals? >> i think there are women and children who are trying to get away from fear and military dictators and all kinds of other problems in their countries. >> actually, griff jenkins with our correspondent down, and he's been with the caravan for a number of days. he interviewed various members of the caravan and this is what he found out last sunday. >> are you willing to break the law to get back to the united states? >> he said he wants to apply for a pardon for the felony he committed. >> can you ask him happened? >> a third-degree felony. attempt of murder. >> dan, your reaction? >> my reaction is that most of these women, children and

families are coming here for asylum and doing at the right way. you have to go to a port of entry, you have to turn yourself in at a port of entry and you have to apply for asylum. if they don't fit asylum, then you have to go back. if they meet the criteria for asylum, they are not breaking the law. >> how do you think women feel about the caravan? >> i don't want them in our country and women don't want them in our country. women want security. >> i saw you nodding your head or shaking her head a minute ago. >> i don't care if nobody is a criminal. have some respect for this country and do with the legal way. i'm a lifelong democrat, i switched over for trump just to vote for him. i've always vote for him.

they are suffering everywhere in the world. charity starts at home, let's take care of our own first and foremost. then we do with the legal way, not illegally. >> i see roy sitting next to terry, chomping at the bit. >> trump says it when they don't want the caravan to come in, i'm sure a number of women wouldn't want to be around donald trump. but first and foremost, i would say, let's go through the process. let's process each case, case by case. if there was a proper system of immigration in place then we could properly vet those that were trying to enter into the country and decipher who was a criminal and who was seeking asylum. >> julie, he wanted to say what? >> there is a system and how to come to this country. i'm an immigrant and i did at the right way. you file your paperwork, get approved and come here. it's as simple as that.

>> here's the problem. right now our system is being gamed. the asylum system, it's a good thing to allow people in for asylum for certain credible fears. fear of religious persecution, ethnic cleansing, true fear of persecution for political outlook. but -- and we have the mexican ambassador and guatemalan interior on last night on the angle and they both said that most of these migrants overwhelmingly are economic. they are coming because like hundreds of millions of people around the world, it's a great place to live. and they want to come here. >> what the media isn't showing is they are passing live feeds of what's happening in mexico with this caravan. the caravan is assaulting police officers, and they are tearing apart the country of mexico. you have people they are, the

own mexican residents that are living there. they are saying go back to your country and stop tearing apart hours. >> but they were also having a good time and be welcome in different parts of the community. >> but they are taking this mind-set and bringing it down to this border. >> i'm an immigrant to this country and i came here legally. it took me ten years to get my citizenship and i also worked in the health care industry. they look at this caravan and this is an organized group. i really feel it's an invasion of our country. this is an organized caravan and people have trucks and are hauling people on the freeway and then they look at the caravan and they are finding that 80% of it are men. and less than 20% are women and children. >> the officials that are monitoring this, the mexican officials and the guatemalan officials that we talk to and interviewed have confirmed that

they are overwhelmingly able-bodied working age men. women and children being put in the front and almost like a human shield. no matter what people think about immigration, that's fine. but it's not immigration and that's a fact. you are all from different backgrounds and political persuasions, how many of you object to the word invasion? so that's about half. how many object to the use of the word invasion are democrats. raise your hand. >> they are coming here with their own flag, waving their own flag, it's an invasion. >> i'm sorry, it's an invasion. you want to come to this country? don't burn our flag.

>> all right. >> do i need to separate you two? >> we have to give everybody a point here. >> in terms of being organized, how is that different from caravans of boats that came over with what we call pilgrims which were simply european refugees? how is that any different? you are talking about caravans and invasions, but we are not talking about what is the original invasion of where we sit? we are on invaded land, that we invaded. well, not i. not alive. but people that look like me invaded this land. >> laura: how many here believe that in part, these caravans have a political motivation in the organization? raise your hand. >> >> i just want to hearken

back to what you said, and what that gentleman said is probably true. been gaming the system ever since we arrived by the mayflower, and that's why i think we have the system. i got here in 1969 and i've been hearing the same story over and over again. i think we need to take the rule of law and need to enforce it. when you said welcome, i said i'm not sure what that means. we are a welcoming country and we can vet each and every individual to give us in in the united states of america. >> this was an important thing that we learned in the very beginning. this was a half republican and half democrat group. only one person said they wanted to welcome the caravan. it's very interesting, it's similar to what i found one we were in texas last week. now as you know, president trump has moved or vowed to move 15,000 troops to the border. >> already moved the initial to the texas border which is where

most of these migrants will arrive within the next month. >> president obama is not responding. we want to play this for you and get your reaction. >> they are even taking our brave troops away from their families, and the men and willing to make women of of the families are better than that. >> laura: raise your hand if you think there is no reason to have the u.s. military at our border, it's purely politics. we have to give everybody here a voice. >> it is purely politics and i believe this rhetoric is dangerous. we are the greatest country in the entire world and we are scared of a caravan full of folks who are coming to seek asylum. i feel like we could have better use of our troops time and resources, here in arizona, we have over 500 homeless youth. one in five children go hungry. i don't feel this is a great way to utilize our nation's

resources. we have to be very careful when we use the word invasion. >> laura: how many people here are aware of the percentage of drugs coming into the country that come through arizona? let's have some guesses. what percentage of drugs come through arizona? bingo. 40% of the drugs coming into the country come through the southern border. the poorest border. >> i don't feel they need a babysitter. >> and it is a question for the crowd. here's another question. do you prefer our military to enforce the borders of other countries, which they are doing in syria and iraq, on afghanistan, mostly in the middle east, or, enforcing if necessary the borders of the united states? first question.

do you want the military and forcing the borders of other countries or the border of the united states? let's go to -- >> i would be totally okay with the military protecting our borders provided that we were not being attacked. i feel like the nation is crippled in fear right now and each party, and everybody is polarized because everybody is either bad or everybody is good. and there is no in the middle. regardless of the caravan, there are a lot of people at the border already who blocked that are really seeking asylum. we can't lump everybody together. it's one or the other. >> laura: does asylum mean -- >> i believe the caravan is probably a little different. >> laura: the caravan is overwhelmingly -- according to

dhs and the mexican and guatemalan officials, there is a lot of great people. but overwhelmingly when they are interviewed, overwhelmingly before they are coached or interviewed, they want to work or they want -- with their family members are here and i think a lot of people understand that. very different from a systematic ethnic cleansing or a systematic persecution. the christians in the middle east are being buried alive. so we have to be careful with our terminology. another issue is the issue of race. i want to play it for this group. all of you have different backgrounds, what's being said lately about president trump. >> the rhetoric of this racist, heartless, soulless man will lead to more violence. yes, i said that. and a lot of americans believe it, too. >> it is fear and hate, and it

is racist. the president has always used fear to his advantage. >> show of hands, how many think those media appraisals are accurate? one, two, three, four. who feels they are unfair? why? julia? >> i don't see the president as a person that is racist. he has shown that he has had many people of different backgrounds, ethnic and everything. i don't think race is the issue. i don't like you. i don't care because -- [laughs] because of who you are. it doesn't matter your background whether you are english, german, white or asian, it doesn't matter. it's constantly used to make this man look bad. use something different, try something new. >> how many people here believe

the charge of racism is used to casually in the united states? raise your hand? >> clyde? >> i think what you are seeing is the last gasp of the desperate group that needs votes because that's all the democrats have and you noticed it very quiet, and nothing was said about the things that he has said such as jews being termites and going back to the original time that he first got started. so i would say they are just using that, and i'm not saying that but yes, we have a president that's kind of a newbie about being a president and, he's using himself being a human being. if you crack a history book, you would see who very surely as the person who -- >> if you crack a

history book you will see there is a history based on race. >> you will find a democrat from day one. we are not talking about political party, we are talking about -- we are not talking about politics. we are talking about -- i let everybody talk, let me make my point. we are talking about, based on rates, african-americans have been enslaved. african-americans after 1865 were subject graded to jim crow lynching, and disenfranchising based on race. so the only people playing race identity politics have no merit, there is a huge merit. >> it's also the jewish community. she asked a specific question. >> laura: one at a time. >> she asked a specific question

about whether trump is racist. he's not. it's an excuse, there is no proof and there is no background. my good friend marion mendoza knows him -- this is not personal. you make a convoluted argument when you start bringing in -- >> i'm not making a convoluted argument. >> one at a time. >> laura: economic opportunity in the united states, we will get into this, economically and whether that has an effect and whether people see things a little bit differently especially with latino communities, african-american communities, asian communities and how prosperity is rising across the board. up next, trace gallagher will highlight some of the tightest senate races and then we will talk to arizona republicans senatorial candidate martha mcsally. stay there.

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>> laura: we are just four days away from the midterms and some of these races are in dead heats including right here in arizona. in moments we will talk with republican senate candidate martha mcsally but first, trace gallagher joins us now with an important update. trace? >> if you look at the fox news polls over the last two months, the indiana senate race has seen a significant shift in the numbers. mike braun was up by two points over democratic incumbent joe donnelly. now, donnelly has increased the lead seven points, but don't write off mike braun just yet because according to the real clear politics average donnelly is up by less than one point remaining this race appears to still be a dead heat. in the "show me" state senate race, no matter what polls you look at it, it's a toss-up.

the rcp average has republican challenger josh hawley leading by two points over claire mccaskill and that's within the margin of error. the fox news poll has been deadlocked at 43% each and it's been that way for the past month. we should note that polls also show missouri democrats appeared to be more interested in the election then missouri republicans, even though 54% of likely misery voters approve of the president's job performance. the florida senate race seems to change with the seasons, for most of the spring, democratic incumbent senator bill nelson held a very steady lead over florida republican governor rick scott. then came summer and rick scott took the lead but now, the leaves have changed and so have the polls. according to the rcp average, bill nelson is back on top by two points and it appears that rick scott could use a heat wave.

finally arizona where fox news poll showed democrat kyrsten sinema and martha mcsally dead even, and they were up three in september. although the real clear politics average still has a kyrsten sinema up by just over half a point. all of these polls were taken before angela green dropped out and endorsed kyrsten sinema, and we should note that kyrsten sinema was a green party activist but tried very hard to distance herself from her past. >> laura: thanks so much, trace. joining me now to discuss that latest toss-up is a woman vying to become the next senator. it's martha mcsally from arizona. let's start with immigration. we just completed a focus group, so important for the voters of the state. how is your view on immigration different from your opponents?

>> it's like night and it day. i chair at the border security district and the subcommittee and i'm working with president trump to make sure we built a wall, secure the border, close these crazy loopholes that are taken advantage of every day, and move forward in a way that is protecting americans. my opponent was actually an activist helping people cross illegally in her past and even though she has had an amazing political makeovers, she has voted to support sanctuary cities. an important vote that's meaningful in arizona is she voted against grant's law, named after grant running back. in the end angel families have endorsed me and she refused to meet with them. grant was shot point blank by someone who shouldn't even have been here. she refused to vote yes on this, and she is out of touch. >> i want to play something for you because she's basically

saying i'm just as good as martha mcsally on issues like sending troops to the border. let's watch. >> it's not new for us to have military deployment to the vote voter, to provide support roles or customs and border patrol agents down there. wish them well and tell them to stay hydrated. >> laura: get real. she has no idea what she's talking about energies in the witness protection program right now because of border security is so important to all arizonans. there are some who care about safety and security, independence and republicans. she is extreme on this issue and i totally wholeheartedly support president trump sending our troops in a support role to secure our border. they support natural disasters, this is a disaster going on in our border. stay hydrated, right? give me a break. i know they will do a great job. i served in the military and they are serving and

sacrificing. border security is national security. >> laura: some of our focus groups that we just did say it's a big political stunt. >> we have -- i represent ranchers on the border and they have endorsed me and so have the border patrol agents representing 15,000 agents. they know the dangerous activities happening every single day on the border. >> laura: birthright citizenship, an important issue. arizona hospitals are affected by this. women, and have their children, automatic passport. >> then we see the chinese coming over because there's a whole fraudulent way to do that. i appreciate the president bringing this up, if we actually secure our border and crackdown on illegal immigration and close these loopholes, we wouldn't have this conversation. he's highlighting things that have been abused -- >> is a 14th amendment covered? >> i'm not a constitutional

expert but i think we close the loopholes we would stop it from happening. >> it's -- six kids, and a number of honduran nationals saying what the president said in part, mentioning our show, the legal problem with the terms plan to stop caravans of persons from entering the country that seek asylum, and goes on to say that trunk and not stop them from legally doing so nor can the military or anyone. >> you can't make this up. this is an example of people taking advantage of the weaknesses in laws that we in congress need to fix. my bill, which you also supported, the goodlatte bill, we work hard to close these loopholes to make sure that people couldn't show up and demand their way into our country. this is happening every single day in arizona. hundreds of many caravans are taking advantage of this. and now they are trying to sue

the president? we this has to stop. >> are you worried about the screen party kook endorsing kyrsten sinema? >> she is a green party activis activist, and it's actually i think a completion of her being identified for who she really i is. angela greene, the green party candidate, a mystery to herself as a liberal. the fact that she is getting behind kyrsten sinema hopefully will have people wake up and realized that she's not a moderate. she is an extreme liberal, out of the mainstream and this just brings it back full-circle of where her roots are. >> laura: why is this race so close? >> money. they have poured tens of millions of dollars to present this image to the arizona voters that she's actually right of center. it's not true, it's the biggest

political cover-up in arizona history. i ask people across the country who are listening, if you want to help us, make sure we keep the seat. this is for everybody, not just arizona. please go to pick sally for senate.com, we need people to contribute. get out to the polls, and this is about the direction of our country. >> laura: 1-10, how important is the trump factor in arizona? he is very important. john jr. was out here yesterday, the president was here a couple weeks ago, i'm working very closely with him on so many things. rebuilding our military, carrying our border. look at the economy. it's amazing. we want to keep things going. >> best of luck. if you liked what you saw for the first part of our focus group, stay right there. up next, the trump effect. should illegal immigrants get

free health care? raise your hand. >> absolutely. >> free college? >> free college.

>> laura: as you would expect, president donald trump looms large over these midterms no matter what party you are supporting. what did our focus group think about the so-called "trump effect?" 21% approval rating among african-americans in the latest poll for the president. 29%. it was 11%, and this is not a conservative poll. this is i believe the harvard harris poll. so that's a significant increase. why do we think that is happening? and do we think democrats are freaking out about that? >> yes they are. >> i see more reports over a long period of time. statistics show that people are no longer on the books when they are in employed for a long

period of time and many african-americans have experienced long term unemployment so they aren't even being counted. >> i think the unemployment rate of the african-american community is the lowest it's ever been. >> but he said the number is not real. >> well, he has done more for the latino and black community than obama ever did. be one guys, we have to move on from this topic. but, is -- to close this out, do charges of racism encourage more speech or limit speech? i get the sense that people kind of pull back when the charge is made, the people pull back. >> we just witnessed neo-nazis

marching in charlottesville. >> i don't feel like people are pulling back at all. we just recently with these last three events that happened just recently, and i don't like to point out -- this is useless and divisive but we should acknowledge that the guy that sent all these bombs, he did have that van and he was a devout supporter. then the shooting in the synagogue, he was a devout supporter. >> laura: no, he was not. and steve scalise was almost killed and he was a bernie sanders supporter. >> you guys can't dominate. >> we are listening to triston. >> thank you for calling me out on that, for real. but still, the climate that we are in right now, people are really willing to do and say these things and it's not a right or left thing, it's all over the place. i feel like conversation --

there is a lot of conversation and sometimes it gets really messy. honestly, that's sad. >> how many people here, so of hands, will race affect your vote in this midterm election? >> and your vote. >> all right, we have to move on guys. i want to get into the idea that this election -- many people are saying it's a referendum on president trump. so regardless of which party you are voting for, is there anyone here only voting on tuesday as a pro-or anti-trump sentiment? raise your hand. is it about trump for you on tuesday? raise your hand. >> okay. as a democrat. >> i'm an independent. >> your paid back now, aren't you.

[laughter] >> laura: the paid economy is not the strongest it's ever been in my lifetime. no better time to be a small business owner. today, the news came out, 3.5%. a wage increase which is the largest we've had since 2009. unemployment is down to a 1967 low which is fantastic across all economic strata. how many of you here today give trump credit for this economic revival on the wage increase? wager hand. you haven't spoken, another young person. i want to hear from the youth. >> i go to school of north. another small town. the wage increases have really affected our small town, because it's very small. it's really hard because small businesses can't afford to pay

its workers but it's really hard -- a lot of companies are going out of business and we are losing a lot of very valuable companies that were really important to our market. >> i am a small business owner, latino owned, and the taxes from trump have done very well for a small business. >> of tax cuts? >> what have they resulted in? >> right here at $1200. that gives me the opportunity to pay my employees, instead of cutting hours. are you concerned that the house of representatives being turned over to democrats would upset the economic recovery? raise your hand. even if you voted democrat, are you concerned about the economy being adversely effected? >> from southern arizona, i'm

with raul grijalva's, district three. he is a democrat and i am a democrat, and he and his daughter have hurt southern arizona more -- in all regards, i don't want that man in office. we need republicans in district three to win that race. i know it's not going to happen but it needs to happen because that district is extremely poor. there is no economic growth. there is no nothing. >> laura: how many of you here will miss jeff flake? >> that's about an 18% approval rating but that's okay. while we are talking about

arizona, this is what kyrsten sinema, of course the democrat who wants to be her next senator, said about the what she hopes to represent. >> people hope -- we are kind of like in a lindsay lohan kind of way. >> arizona is clearly the meth lab of democracy. >> tea party republicans, all the same thing. >> to the democrats in the room, put your hands up. if that offends you in any way -- i couldn't hear it very well but i have a lot of disagreements with kyrsten sinema over the years, and i'm not a good friend of hers but she is ten times better than mick sally martha mcsally. >> with the further removed we are, the more the baseless charges against him unravel. she will be with us later to

tell us about another criminal referral involving a kavanaugh accuser. and wait until you hear what our focus group tells us, don't go anywhere. >> it will probably put afire under me with all the misogyny going on. oh!

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>> laura: the democratic candidates are bringing out the big guns. celebrities are knocking on doors as white house pushes bac back. >> and you'll get a vote, and you get a vote. >> i would like to remind stacy and oprah and will ferrell, but

this is not hollywood, this is georgia. >> so does trotting out hollywood heavyweights actually move voters? we asked our focus group. >> would you have your vote affected one way or the another by a celebrity endorsement? >> alex, you are one of the people they are targeting. young people. >> as much fun as i had seen kanye west and donald trump in the white house with the axon, i'm not going to base my political views off of that. you can get your mileage off of it but at the end of the day you should probably not make that the be-all and end-all. >> take a look at this brand-new political ad directed by a

brilliant film director and actress, jodie foster. >> if somebody asked you what do you care about, what would you say? >> losing your health care? equal rights? >> if basic human rights matter, then vote. >> then vote. >> with that in any way motivate you to go to the polls? show of hands. yes, if it would. in the back, why? >> if i wasn't going to vote or had no motivation, it would probably put a fire under me, especially with all the misogyny going on. >> what is the most important issue for all of you? >> i think for arizona in general right now the top issue is clearly immigration. it's driven by the caravan that is on his way here and i think we talked about it but it's a two fold with immigration.

there is a border security issue that's also broken and that's why you have to see the military making sure we send a clear signal that we are just not going to let people in our back door. >> health care for all. that's the biggest issue. >> people need -- how many -- 35 million people are without health care. >> should immigrants get free health care in the united states? raise your hand. >> absolutely. >> free college? >> free college. >> to african-americans or veterans all get free college? we have 300,000 homeless veterans on the streets tonight. >> there are 60% taxes.

none of us are working. -- free taxes. we are supporting those people whether they are illegal. and how much greater does that number need to go before we become a socialist? >> should children born -- neither parent is an american citizen. , should that child immediately become an american citizen? >> it's the 14th amendment. >> so all -- so 300,000 of the illegal immigrants should automatically become -- okay. >> laura: got really raucous there. another cavanaugh accuser by the

way facing potentially severe criminal punishment over a false claim against the now associate justice of the supreme court. and coulter is here next to break it all down and, what it could mean for the midterms.

>> laura: brett kavanaugh might be sitting on the supreme court but the fallout from this confirmation battle is far from over. just hours ago, senator chuck grassley made another criminal referral to the department of justice, concerning an unnamed accuser who made rate allegations against kavanaugh. the unidentified woman admits she "just wanted to get attention" and that it was "a ploy." joining me now is and coulter.

the convention here is that republican enthusiasm over the kavanaugh controversy was waning. what do you think about that the last few days of for the vote? >> liberals are crazy, and they've been going through a two-year tantrum. but this one really takes the cake. that letter she wrote reads like, penthouse letters, the detail of this gang rape, and then this woman in kentucky claims that she was the one who wrote it. it gives her name and, the senate judiciary committee does a little research and finds out she doesn't live either in washington, d.c., or oceanside, california, which is where the original anonymous hostage letter came to come from.

she's from kentucky and several decades older than justice kavanaugh and has a history of being a liberal activist. her quotes to the committee were hilarious. it was just, it was in the news and i wanted to get attention. >> laura: isn't this good though to make these people pay? it reminds me of this leak that came out of the feinstein office. since it happened, this must be investigated and it must be pursued. republicans are going to hold onto the house, unless something really wacky happens. this can't be dropped by lindsey graham. he's going to go in and say, i want everybody's emails and everybody's texts and that ford letter. it was a travesty what happened to him. >> what often happens in these cases is our side, okay companies on the supreme court, let's move on, that will be repaid by good behavior from the

left. no, we will never get good behavior from the left. and whether it's a duke lacrosse or the uva girl or up in columbia, they would be all of these fake rate allegations which might be all the fake allegations made by a judge or justice kavanaugh. the false accuser doesn't get prosecuted and in the duke lacrosse case, she went on to stop her boyfriend to death. there has to be some sort of repercussions of making false allegations of rate. it's a very serious allegation, not particularly plausible. but of course these cases need to be pursued. one other thing, i think this is why contrary to what everybody else will be telling president trump, the next nominee he gets to the supreme court, i don't care whom he is replacing, it has to be a man because we know know what the left's playbook is. they did at 29 years ago to

justice thomas and they did it again now to justice kavanaugh. people will say, pick a woman. what, because -- if they have another false allegation, i don't think anyone will buy it in the next few years, it absolutely should be a man. >> laura: i think it should be the best and most judicially conservative, doing the bean counting never works for conservatives and you've been way ahead of the curve on that issue. and obviously immigration and some of the others. ann coulter here on the "the ingraham angle." a preview of my monday night closing argument, next.

>> martha, good luck. you're going to be singing the national anthem tomorrow at the

asu football game. i'll be there. i'll be watching. and on monday, i'm going to deliver my closing arguments to recall your voters across the country. if you're on the fence, forget it. we're going to talk about moving forward, not backwards. that's what you've got to do. >> >> shannon: welcome to "fox news @ night". i'm shannon bream in washington. the final weekend before the midterm election is shaping up to be a battle of two legacies: trump and obama. both claiming their accomplishments are in danger. president trump and obama hitting the biggest swing states crucial for the balance of power, but it won't stop there. the competing campaign events will stretch through the weekend. the economy delivering president trump a robust october jobs report, but he's not wavering from his midterm message, immigratio