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pete: so four hours down, four more to go tomorrow and i'm guessing we'll be covering the president. ed: we'll be live from pensacola , florida, where he will be, not the whole team but folks on the ground. big show tomorrow. pete: are you joining us thomas well? >> yes i will. ed: go to fox & friends.com for the after the show show. see you tomorrow. neil: this is it three days out and both parties all in. this president, the last president, and all of those to be the next president, all in it to win it and make history doing it it is all on the line and we are all over the country with mike tobin in indiana where president trump will soon beheaded out as barack obama heads in and peter doocey and where a certain candidates numbers are suddenly headed higher and then home depot co- founder on why the economy is still stupid, democratic congressman, why he thinks the president pounding this caravan thing is stupid.
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then a republican who has a real shot at the bluest of blue states of connecticut, and a story that grid lock is a lock in his mind in a red and blue washington and why they say grid lock will be a gift for investors way beyond washington and then forget about the troops headed to the border. have you heard about the record number of legal immigrants becoming u.s. citizens as we speak? we didn't think so. the news you are not hearing on this show you need to be watching, especially now, this weekend, ahead of the big vote where anything could happen and history proves often does like back in 1980 where jimmy carter and ronald regan were neck and neck at this point and then suddenly were not or in 1994 when democrats never thought they would lose the house and suddenly did. funny thing history, funnier ignoring it not now, not ever, too much going on is let's get going because cavuto live starts
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right now. all right, let's get ready to rumble and to run. the president is set to leave indiana this hour hitting florida and montana today, tennessee and georgia tomorrow. first to peter doocey in nashville, tennessee. peter? reporter: neil there's not a lot of time for candidates to make new arguments so now it's about getting supporters and right now we're just outside of nashville at an event where some folks who were campaigning for marshall blackburn are getting ready to go out and knock-on doors there is congresswoman marsha black burn. how is it looking? >> it is exciting. we are off to a great day of door knocking, and phone calling , and event attending, and all these volunteers are out here working with me. we're going to win. i'm going to be the next u.s. senator from tennessee. >> [applause] reporter: thank you very much, congresswoman. these are all of the volunteers who will help marsha blackburn
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get to a nine-point lead in the recent poll although there are some polls that the show this race could dip a little bit closer with the blackburn campaign in the last few days has been focusing a lot on the migrant caravan also promoting a pro-life message and her opponent on the other hand the democratic candidate has been trying to reach out to more moderate voters he's the one who said that he would have voted for brett kavanaugh if he would have had the chance he's really been promoting an endorsement he got from taylor swift a few weeks ago and tomorrow he's trying to promote a message of improving the civil discourse, so he's going to host an inner faith luncheon in chattanooga at a cultural center a few hours before president trump hosts a large rally at an arena in chattanooga. neil? neil: thank you very much, so the president's next stop is florida on a list of busy states to watch. fox business susan li on that and much more. >> a busy busy campaign blitz
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for president trump trying to add his support and stump for the candidates in tight tight races and as you mentioned it's off to pensacola, florida tonight where the president will be trying to drum up support for rick scott in a close head-to-head battle with democrat bill nelson, scott slightly behind in the recent polls right now you're looking at missouri but let's bring up there you go, florida and bill nelson is slightly ahead of scott within the margin of error off in the gubernatorial race which has received nationwide attention, desanta fe us slightly behind andrew gillam, florida a state that trump won narrowly in 2016 but escambia county where pensacola is heavy trump country and next missouri also receiving a trump rally missouri a tough contest as well with republican candidate josh hawley, a slight edge ahead of incumbent democrat claire mccaskill at this point and this is going to be a close close one to watch and a predominantly red state. trump has traveled to the state two times in fact in the past
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five days to help rally support, and then we have indiana, another toss up here and trump will be in indiana twice in the next three days, lending his support to businessman mike brau n up against joe donnelly in a virtual dead heat according to the polls trump taking indiana in 2016 but obama winning it in 2012 and obama i should mention will be in state on monday and then there is texas one of the most high profile races in the country, ted cruz, battling to keep his seat against democrat o' rorke, trump lost texas in 2016 but cruz still has a slight edge and finally nevada clinton taking the state in 2016, trump traying to keep that seat for the republicans, neil back to you. neil: that is a lot of territory covered and very little time thank you, susan very very much. all right the president is competing the republicans could lose the house.
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president trump: chuck schumer and nancy pelosi and the legendary maxine waters take power, they will try to erase our gains and eradicate our progress. that's what's going to happen. they're going to work hard and we will be fighting. oh, it will be ridiculous, frankly. it'll be bad for our country. the democrats and it could happen, it could happen. neil: all right, will it happen to republican strategist in las vegas nevada with more on that he seemed to be conceding, frank , the house is gone, what do you think? >> well the democrats need a 23 -seat pickup for them to take over the house. the average in the first term of an off-year election is 32, so for republicans to keep the house, they actually, they're swimming up hill historically. there's another problem for the gop which is that 41 house incumbents retired this time, house republican incumbents and that makes it very difficult to fight all these open seat races. neil i want to give viewers a
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step by step approach to the first two hours of election night to help them know what to be looking for and the first important state closing at 6:00 p.m. most of the polls is indiana and that's the senate race. that will probably determine who controls the united states senate, joe donnelly has been trailing, except for the last two, three days when some polls have put him up. if the republicans pick up indiana, that probably means they're going to keep the united states senate and we should know that very early unthe evening. at 7:00 p.m., the georgia gubernatorial race historic, could be the first african american woman ever to be governor of a southern state, stacey abrams is locked in a dead heat versus republican brian kemp. the polls have shown the republicans leading but too close to call and then at 7:30 another key gubernatorial race most races have not been talked about because everyone is focused on washington d.c., the truth is, for the long term impact of congress because these
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governors determine redistrict ing, this ohio race is particularly important, the republican has been down in most polls versus the democrat. the other key state at 7:30 p.m. is west virginia. i believe joe manchin has a lock on this, there are some republicans who would disagree but joe manchin's vote for the trump supreme court nominee puts him in a very strong position an then finally at 8:00 p.m., watch the missouri senate race, that one i think claire mccaskill is in trouble. she's been in trouble in elections before, but this time most of the polls show her down versus josh hawley. also the surprise of the evening could be in new jersey. i don't think so, but bob menendez is up by only single-digits and most have him five or six points ahead its been an ugly race between him and the republican. if there's a surprise, tuesday night it's going to be new jersey and then finally the
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florida gubernatorial and senator races as you heard earlier those are too close to call. if one of those races goes republican it's more likely to be the senate race than the gubernatorial race and in terms of the house, the three-seats you should be watching early in the evening, carlos cobero which is florida 26, mcarthur which is new jersey three and karen handle georgia is 6 those are three republican incumbents who are fighting for these battles of their life. if republicans are able to keep all three, they just might keep the house, at this point it's more likely that the senate or democrats emerge with the majority in the house is somewhere between maybe eight and 12 seats. neil: on the house battles, frank, would be of the things that i've seen looking at some of the numbers in 30 some odd districts of the gap is within five points or fewer, so anything could turn. last weekend before an election, what do you look for? >> i look to see if the early voting is going in any direction
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and i'd like to be able to tell viewers there's a trend but there isn't. all that i can tell you is that in the red states republicans are doing better than they did in 2014 in early voting more registered republicans are participating in the blue state, however, democrats are doing better in early voting and what does that indicate? greater likelihood that democrat s take the house because those republicans tend to be from blue states that are marginal, and republicans likely not only to keep the senate but to actually expand their majority, because the vote is better in their states. neil: all right well said, frank , republican strategist in las vegas. we are looking at this final weekend before the big vote, where anything and often has happened, in 1980 for example, hard to believe in retrospect but jimmy carter and ronald regan were essential tied we know what happened after the fact and then there was the race in 1994 republicans were expected to pick-up a lot of seats they were not expected to pick up control. we'll have more after this.
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neil: all right, it's the crucial weekend before the mid-term elections, and history shows that a lot of things can change. i want to take you back to 1980 of course eyes was in born but i heard there was this men om enone where carter and reagan we're essentially tied within the polling margin of error here and as you can see within the final vote here it was a landslide and ronald regan was well on his way to winning in one of the biggest electoral wins ever. then to 1994 the year of course republicans took the house. now they were expected to do well. they were not expected to win more than 50 seats they did at the time. less than i guess about stepping back from consensus views here, center for politics director, larry what do you lack for then, going into these final few days, what kind of things do you sort of pick-up on? >> well all kinds of things can
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happen, neil. especially in these days and times, you have so many news events happening in a single day and so many news cycles, so if there are any remaining undecided and i don't think there are, or at least not very many that are going to vote they might be influenced but it's really more a matter of getting up the vote on one side versus the other. does an event excite one particular party and depress the other or vice versa? now, 1980 neil of course you weren't alive. neil: no and neither were you barely. >> i'd been around for decades so i remember it more accurately than you do. carter was in fact behind reagan on the final weekend two or three points and he was going to lose. i think he would have lost anyway, but then of course the negotiations with the iran collapsed on the sunday before the tuesday election. when carter had been building that up and democrats had been
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hoping that that would rescue them, instead, it sent people into a spiral of depression, and it just magnified the reagan victory. he went from two to three points to 10 points in 48 hours, and even the polster for carter, a fellow i think you know, he saw the giant change and called the president carter on air force one after his final event on the west coast and said it's all over you better get adjusted to it. neil: boy that's a nice thing to do. let me ask you about of course the famous gingrich evolution, the takeover in the house, republicans were expected to do very well that year, not 54 seats but what happened there? how did that cascade? >> again, i think it's fascinating. people don't realize, a single points worth of difference can produce 10 or 15 or 20
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additional house seats, so if you have one party whose enthusiasm builds to a cresendo right before election day and back then a vast majority of people actually voted on election day, we didn't have election month back then, we had election day, it can make all the difference in the world and really, that's what happened the republicans sent all political people sensed that this is going to be a bad night for democrats and it was going to be a goodnight for republican s so that built all the way to election day, and that additional point or two can really send you flying, and that's precisely what happened to the republicans and i'm sure newt gingrich will give you a detailed explanation of it if you ask him. neil: he already has so let me ask you a little bit about anger and how that sort of registers to get out to vote on both parties part. whose angry? whose voters are angrier? >> judging by my own twitter field and e-mail and everything,
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all the conversations i have, everybody is angry. maybe except you and me, neil, but there are lots and lots of people who are very very angry, and i really do think it's about equal. this isn't going to be decided by overall turnout. it's going to be decided by the turnouts in individual states and districts the ones that are actually competitive and once again, we're down to a relative handful. seven, eight, nine senate seats and maybe 40, 50 house districts out of 435 that's where the election will be decided. neil: how big an issue do you think the caravan will be? >> i think for republicans, it's the motivator. i've been listening, i don't know whether you said this but i've seen a lot of people say it why isn't the president talking more about the economy and at one level that makes sense. there's just one problem with that. the people are pleased but it doesn't motivate them to get out and vote in the mid-term election. you have to stir them up and get them mad that's where the caravan and the immigration
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issue comes in and for the democrats obviously it's trump. the democrats use that person, that issue, that president to motivate their people, so anger works a lot better than love and hope, just not between us, neil. neil: understood. >> generally. neil: understood. all right thank you my friend the good professor is taking a look at where we stand just a few days out and then there are all these gubernatorial battles going on that are crucial too that'll set the stage for a couple of years and how things are portioned out in various states as well. my next guest is hoping that he can flip the bluest of blue states of connecticut his way. the republican is on that after this. this is loma linda, a place with one of the highest life expectancies in the country. you see so many people walking around here in their hundreds. so how do you stay financially well for all those extra years? well, you have to start planning as early as possible. we all need to plan, for 18 years or more, of retirement. i don't have a whole lot saved up, but i'm working on it now.
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neil: all right, connecticut is considered a fairly blue state, but that might not be the case right now, because they've got a real battle going on for the governorship there, where the democrat is in the battle of his life right now with republican challenger and a businessman, bob stefanowski. we did reach out to mr. lamont, but bob is with us right now sir good to have you. neil thanks so much for having me on. neil: now depending on the numbers we don't like to overly rely on polls and i'm sure you don't either but you are within the margin of error here, now things could change, things could tighten, things could widen, but it is interesting in a state like connecticut that that is even the case. what's going on? >> yeah, you're talking about angry voters. we've got a lot of angry voters
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in connecticut. we've had eight years of a democratic governor whose raised taxes continually. we have a $5 billion budget deficit. we're losing on average 80 people from the state every day. people are taxed to death in connecticut and i'm running on a platform of lower taxes, cut government spending, and it's resonating. we were 15 points down the day after the primary now we're up two, to your point a largely democratic state we're very happy with where we are right now. neil: i do notice you somewhat keep your distance from the president, or am i imagining that? >> no, i like the president's economic policy. it shows what a business person can do. i'm a business person, it's the first time i've run for office. lower taxes, less regulation, cutting government spending, we could use some of that economic policy here in connecticut. neil: so do you support the tax cut engineered by republicans and the president because in states like yours where you limit how much you can write-off and it's a high tax state, it could boomerang.
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>> well it's tough for connecticut but it's just another rent. neil: you talking about the state and local tax deduction but go ahead. >> we were the fastest growing economy in the entire country before the state income tax was put in in 1991 and since then, we're the slowest in economic growth, we're the only state that hasn't recovered the jobs from the recession, and i've got a plan to turn that around and that's why we're wayneing in the polls by the day here. neil: nevertheless, there is a concern that in this relatively blue state, that democrats will be able to just gather around enough, with whatever the un popularity of the outgoing governor malloy, that they're concerned about the association with donald trump. is that a fair association that you do as i say, keep your distance, you do emphasize the things you like in a business when being president of the tax cut what have you but that that could actually hurt you? >> well president trump endorsed me the day after the
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primary. i'm running for governor of connecticut and what people care about here is this economy. that's what i've been laser focused on. i can't control what happens in washington but i can control getting taxes down, getting companies to come back. we lost general electric two years ago because of the state of this budget, lack of access to a skilled workforce, connecticut used to be a terrific economy and i think with the right tax policy we can bring it back neil. neil: now as governor you wouldn't be getting into the weeds on what is done in washington if you were running for the senate what have you but we've already heard from a number of democrats that if they retake the house, nancy pelosi is advocated, getting rid of the tax cuts, starting from scratch, senator camilla hairs out in california talked about giving that money to the poor upwards of 6,000 dollars a year, monthly checks of $500, how do you feel about that approach, again it would be different for you being governor but that approach many democrats are taking? >> we need to stimulate the
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economy. i mean, everybody in this state needs a job whether you're in the inner city or in connecticut people want jobs, they want prosperity, and i think by getting taxes done that's the way we're going to do it. it's not so much about the other way to do it. we've got to lower taxes. we've got to get business to come back here and as i said, neil connecticut has done it before. we can do it again but we've had eight years of horrible economic policy we've had two of the largest tax increases in the history of connecticut under dan malloy, whose the least popular governor in the entire country and our tax revenues are down so i've done a lot of work with larry larry kudlow and we'll get taxes lower and the supply going up and get wages going up and demand going up. neil: but a lot of those companies are paying a lot less in corporate taxes on a national basis and it's still not really translating into jobs and/or revenue in connecticut what happened? >> it's fundamentally bad tax
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policy. if the state of connecticut had grown just the same rate as the national economy over the last six years we'd have $12 billion more in tax revenue. i wouldn't be stepping into a $5 billion budget if we had just kept pace with the country, so to me, it shows that we have to cut taxes, we've done the exact opposite under eight years of the current governor and tax revenues are down. we are the classic example of the laugher curve where we're taxing people to the point they're leaving connecticut. it has to stop. i've got democrats coming up to me saying they've never voted republican in their entire life but they're doing it this tame because they are laser focused on this economy. ned lemont says he will continue the policies of the prior governor, raise taxes, institute a payroll tax and people don't want that here. that's why in this state, we actually have an amazing chance to flip this governor to the. neil: a payroll tax on the upper income i believe right? >> no payroll tax on all companies, he wants to institute a statewide auto tax, he wants
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to raise the income tax, he wants to do exactly the same of what hasn't worked over the last eight years. a lot of people are seeing through it saying common sense would tell you we need to do the reverse. neil: all right we'll see what happens, thank you very much bob stefanowski. we did reach out to his opponent and we hope he will eventually come on. we don't bite so anyway just put that out there. the president meanwhile continuing his campaign blitz today but if the house were to change hands, then what happens? particularly to your wallet? after this.
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ellison barber is in montana with the very latest. reporter: neil so president trump, his approval rating in this state is above 50%. he won this state in 2016 by about 20 points, and many polls his approval rating is slightly higher than the incumbent democratic senator john tester but in this senate race, tester is ahead by about four points, he's ahead of his republican challenger matt rosendale. republicans want to try and capitalize on the trump factor trying to make this a more national race. rosendale is talking about things like the economy, jobs, the tax cut, he's also talking about the supreme court vote and trying to hang tester on the fact he did not vote in favor of kavanaugh. democrats and john tester in particular, they're trying to keep this race more local. he's talking a lot about healthcare, public land, veterans also talking about corruption and government accountability. this is president trump's fourth visit to montana of late there are no big democrats here no visit from president obama or
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vice president joe biden. instead tester has been campaign ing with actor jeff bridges, whose a part-time montana resident. president trump usually starts his rallies by talking about the economy. you can bet he's going to talk about that. today, he's already tweeting about the job numbers, democrats say the economic success is now started under them, the president disagrees. president trump is repeatedly attacked tester for derailing his nomination for va secretary the nomination of white house dr. ronny jackson and tester says he was just doing his job trying tond tariff up for the people of montana and montana veterans. neil? neil: ellison thank you very very much. so, on the heels of that good jobs report and the possibility we could see split government, in other words the house switch es hands, democrats control it what does that mean for the markets, split government tends to be a good thing. for example, when ronald regan saw the republicans lose 27 seats in the mid-term elections of 1982 the market went up 3.9%, the very next day it was up 18%
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six months later 20% a year later in 2006 when george bush had to deal with the democratic house and the senate, the market was up about 9%, six months later about 7% a year later so that's just the market now whether that translates into the economy is anyone's guess let's get the read from fox business network susan li and joan as max ferris. and to you on that, what do you think split government is good? >> one word, neil, gridlock. that's what we're headed for, which as you made reference to isn't the worst thing, because the market views things as they like certainty, so if we're in gridlock, there's some certainty there. what i think happens, if the democrats do take the house, and i'm not so sure that they will, but because i think there's a lot of closet trump supporters out there that are not showing up in any polling. neil: i don't think they do. >> but what i think happens if we do have gridlock, because of
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split government i think that the fed takes their foot off the pedal on interest rates, and the market will continue. i don't see a bear market. >> the market usually goes up anyways a year after the mid-terms, about 12-15%. neil: you know the exception to that susan? it's interesting is if we had a wild run up prior. if we had a huge market, which we've had over the last year. on the calendar year. >> right. neil: it's a little different but it is what it is. and i'm wondering, the people you've talked to, would they like that or this is largely the investment crowd is largely republican crowd. >> absolutely. neil: not casting political directions but if the republican s were to hang on to the house what is their sense about how the markets would react to that? >> well i think it would be a positive actually for the markets because maybe we wouldn't have our time taken up with unnecessary hearings, tack about implementing more regulation i think that would be market positive to get something done, but also the status quo, people are just comfortable knowing that there's gridlock, and they're separated but i
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would imagine that if both houses go the republican gop way that like the tax cuts we'd actually get more juice in the markets. >> okay, the only good thing of having that kind of situation is the big spending initiatives the things that lead to deficit growth happen when everybody is in charge so you get obamacare when there's one party charge, you get medicare part d under bush, you get the defense spending that just went up so you won't get major initiatives in it the market is starting to worry. neil: that's a good point if you have a full run of the table, deficits increase. >> there's not enough agreement to pass anything whether it's a big tax cut. neil: that's the point why that's good. >> the story is not that great and here is why because this time the democratic party, it's kind of doing what the two parties did when obama won it's shifting for the left. we just showed trump is running around to help people. bill clinton doesn't get to run around any more the whole clinton era is over. his whole background is in question. hillary took an embarrassing loss for the party and the par
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it is going democratic socialistic and that is not a pro-corporate policy. we all talk about how bad obamacare is but at the end of the day the clinton era stuff is still pro-government. the health care in dust are created obamacare. when you talk about medicare for all that not a move that the health care in dust are likes. they don't want to replace government subsidized private health care with lines for lower cost health care that creates shortages. that doesn't lead to profits in that industry. >> so what do you think gets done over the next four years if maxine waters becomes the chairwoman of the house financial services committee? i would imagine there would be lots of hearings, probably a better look more regulation, banks in front of senate and congress is that getting something done? is that efficiency? >> i think it depends, it's not so much the numbers and who wins i think it's how far left the policy goes and how many people go out and vote, how popular
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these ideas become and do they spread. it wasn't popular with democrats even a few years ago they didn't want to go medicare for a variety of reasons again. neil: but health care itself is a big issue, it's one that surprised a lot of republicans that it would still resonate, now the vote could be counter to that, but what do you make of that and whether republicans were caught flat footed on that or that this is something that it works in their favor as well. >> i actually think healthcare is more of an emotional issue than anything else. now we are going to have rising costs in health care no matter what happens with congress. the one thing we could be certain of, healthcare costs are going to go up. i want to go back to what susan said for a moment. if the republicans hold congress , i think the economy takes off and it also sends the word out internationally that this president is supported, so what happens with tariffs with china? now china looks at that because that has an impact on it, china
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says do you know what? the american people are behind this president. it allows him to play hard ball with the chinese and we make more progress, i think the market will like that. neil: let me ask you guys about the recent market volatility. we did come off our lows this week but friday there was a sell-off and i'm wondering whether that noise, what do you think, susan? is part of, you know, voter's thinking. i don't know if it really moves on the upside or downside, unless it's really significant. what do you think? >> i agree i think this is just part of the natural cycle and markets go up as much as they have since election day a 10% correction is because all part of the normal washout. i think it's healthy. neil: but within days, folks. >> i think yes, it does impact sentiment but we've seen this before, maybe people who haven't been around for the last 10 years and are young to the market but this is something that goes up, goes down, but i would say that what happens on tuesday, and if we do have something solid, i think there's something to trade off of.
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neil: what do you think, jonas. >> but if you opened your 401 (k) from a year ago it's up a lot. people were like what's going on i'm broker than i was a year or two ago but you're not. even people and this gets to the modern voter for trump is that they don't want and that's why trump was coming out tweeting about your 401 (k). he knows that's in the back where people are very liberal but yet how is the money they don't want destroyed by democratic socialism and they want to keep the games there yes and got scary recently but that is one month of volatility off a very long strong market that goes even before trump obviously >> but that's not going to brick people to the polls even though he's dropping that out there, he's going to the caravan and the emotional issues, a lot of people are -- neil: anger gets them out there. >> exactly. a good economy won't do it he's go the to go elsewhere. >> but maybe he's trying to get the democrats, to not get out and vote because you're like i'm not that enthusiastic about people in my district who want
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to go more socialistic. like i'm not going for republican but i just won't vote neil: leave the angry accountant here. >> come on i'm always happy to be here. neil: guys thaw all very very much obviously a lot of pop ticking going on on the part of the president and the vice president speaking of whom will be leaving joint base andrews shortly i believe he's headed out to wisconsin campaigning for scott walker and others, as a republican sense in those battleground states as was the case just two years ago, the numbers do not show what they see, a surge, after this. a once-in-five hundred year storm should happen every five hundred years, right? fact is, there have been twenty-six in the last decade. allstate is adapting. with drones to assess home damage sooner. and if a flying object damages your car, you can snap a photo and get your claim processed in hours, not days. plus, allstate can pay your claim in minutes. now that you know the truth...
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neil: all right it's called a migrant caravan and we do know that it's actually four groups big, we do know that it has anywhere from 3,000 to 7,000 migrants as part of it we don't know the makeup of it a whose who in that group we do know the president has made it a leading issue here in this race. rick leventhal is in texas with the latest on that caravan as it
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makes its way to the southern border. hey, rick. >> hey, neil the caravan is quite a distance from us, somewhere down there in mexico, we're here along the rio grand river below the hidalg o bridge one of the main ports of entry into texas and this is evidence somewhat of what the u.s. military has already donna long the ground here stringing this razor sharp wire along the river's bed in both directions and then if you look up at the bridge itself they actually put some wire there above the pedestrian walkway on the bridge as well trying to reinforce and harden the ports of entry here, along the coast, along the border, between the u.s. and mexico. this section was completed by soldiers with the 97th military police brigade the 41st engineering company out of fort riley, kansas along with the assistance of customs and border protection agents and neil they have a lot of ground to cover. we want to show you a map from where we were yesterday in el paso, texas more to the west and southwest of texas.
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now, here too this area near mcallen, texas about 800 miles between these two locations and this is just part of the border the military has been brought into try and protect of course they are in several states including arizona, and southern california some of the soldiers deploy south of san diego because they are still insure what route the migrant caravan might take. authorities suggest this current caravan may be more dangerous and violent than past groups which is why the department of homeland security says it asked for this military support so some 2,000 national guard troops on the ground and more than 5,000 active duty troops from bases across america building temporary housing for soldiers and agents moving troops and agents and supplies of cargo planes and helicopters doing surveillance with helicopters andirons but the main mission is to assist the border agents to ensure that the caravan does not make it from mexico here into the u.s. , at least not by force
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neil: rick thank you very much, before we take a break here i do want to sort of take a myth that's been in a lot of the mainstream media coverage that we're suddenly not allowing foreigners into this country. this is a look at legal immigration in the united states and how its been averaging, and its been going up, up, up, in other words net total gain of 1.13 million immigrants from all over the world being led into this country last year, getting green cards, visas and the rest, for citizenship and those from central america, the numbers up up up as well but we have been averaging better than a million coming into this country , as legal citizens in this country, doing it the legal way so it's not as if the statue of liberty is getting rid of all of that that didn't stop with whatever you make of caravans or whatever they become charged as issues of the fact of the matter is this country still, still is a beacon for those who want to go through the legal way and even for those who seek asylum,
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there is a process for that as well, but i think what's lost in the sauce here is that we continue to let better than a million immigrants from all over the world call america home. there is that process and it continues unabated as it has year in and year out, under this republican president, under a democratic president, under republican president before him. just if you wanted to know. more after this. it rocked our w. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they took care of everything a to z. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa- now that's a privilege.
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republican yellow is independence and blue is democrats. neil: take a look. president trump: we've created almost 600,000 new manufacturing jobs. >> [applause] president trump: you remember the previous administration? we can't create manufacturing jobs any more. they're the best jobs. they're the most important jobs. they're great jobs and high paying jobs, and we do it better than anybody. 600,000, and it's going up rapidly as these companies come back into the united states they all want to be in the united states because now for the first time in decades, we are where it's at, we're the hot country, can you believe it? >> [applause] neil: how does that resonate with the independence? >> now you could see in the very beginning when you start with the jobs they were recognizing when you start saying everybody else couldn't do it the deputies couldn't they dipped a little bit but we were seeing that the independents are softening and that's what carr ied him in 2016 and we're not seeing that strength that he had before and that concerns me
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going into the mid-terms a little bit but the jobs message does resonate that's the best he did all night with them. neil: what about the birth rights citizens division? he championed that and he says it resonates it clearly does. >> i think he will take a look at the clip and what i'm concerned about right now is this is not the time to bring it up it's a very polarizing issue even with republicans let's take a look at what he says. president trump: democrats want to continue giving automatic birth rights citizenship to every child born to an illegal alien. even if they've been on our soil for a mere matter of seconds. hundreds of thousands of children born to illegal immigrants are made automatic citizens of the united states, every year, because of this crazy lunatic policy that we can end, that we can end. [applause] president trump: we need support neil: now i understand where you're coming from the polster
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that the message of the economy and all of that other stuff but it does galvanize the base right >> it galvanizes the base but you can see usually when the president talks republicans go off the charts his base you could see in the last chip you couldn't even see that, this they are pretty neutral and that says to me this is an issue getting them excited and independents are getting turned off and democrats are down right angry about it but when you're losing independents at this point getting people who said we had open-ended questions where you asked people what they thought about this, this is a humanitarian issue the way people are talking about it is this seems so controversial it's making them wonder is this right now the strength on immigration the president has he gets credit for with a lot of big ideas and people are out there. neil: it's not a shut down entry into the united states. we're just showing in the prior segment where 1.1 million and likely to be a quarter of a million of this year are coming in the legal way, and net-net becoming citizens with the green cards, visas what have you so
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it's not as if the statue of liberty is walking away here. >> that's right but the issue here is this president often does right before big moments lo bs out a big idea that gets everybody talking and usually it works out really well you see a lot of republicans getting excited about it having conversations about things we never would have had otherwise, this one is very controversial not getting people excited. republicans, his base, is saying look we want strong borders, we want to get everything in order but this one they know is controversial seeing a lot going back and fourth and going into the mid-terms what the we really want is people excited and the base up and ready to go and every republican voter out there to go. neil: good news doesn't do that as much as controversial news or rallying the base around a hot topic. >> but it's the right controversy and what we're see ing is you're just not getting that big when you see him talking about the wall and those big ideas people get excited it's like red meat right it's so exciting to folks. you're not seeing that here, and that has me a little bit concerned and i'm also a little bit concerned about that
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independent reaction right now. neil: thank you very very much. thank you. neil: lee carter, everyone is campaigning today including former vice president joe biden who might be a candidate himself , running for president. we just don't know. in ohio right now he's getting ready, more after this. this is stonington, maine, a town where almost half the population is self-employed. lobster fisherman is the lifeblood of this town. by 2030, half of america may take after stonington, self-employed and without employer benefits. we haven't had any sort of benefit plans and we're trying to figure that out now. if i had had a little advice back then, i'd be in a different boat today, for sure. plan your financial life with prudential. bring your challenges. ...
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>> all right, the president leaving indiana right now en route to montana. he'll be campaigning there. he's going to be busy the next few days working around the clock to try to make sure republicans do well. he's optimistic that they'll continue their control of the united states senate, a little less so when it comes to the house of representatives where he seemed to telegraph there could be trouble for the grand ole party. you're watching cavuto live, i am he. we're following the developments in the senate races as well, they're getting hot particularly in arizona where they've got a barn stormer of a race there. alicia acuna is live from there. . >> hi, good morning, neil, the secretary of state's office here say the majority of early ballots have already been returned, so in the senate race, these candidates are laser
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focused on that last bunch of voters. let's take a look at the real clear politics average of polls and you can see the democrat, kirsten has a sliver of a lead over marsha mcsally. sinema has policies and supported the president in some instances. but it's about every last vote. >> people who have not turned in their early ballot or plan to vote on election day and our message is the same. i'll be a voice for everyday arizonians in the senate and i'm working hard for every vote. >> the only vote that matters is on election night. and i want to get to every last voter out there, sitting on the sidelines and enthusiasm and making sure we get across the
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finish line. >> mcsally has brought in the bigger names, the president, and donald trump, jr. as well and they've discussed immigration and today the secretary of state's office opened some emergency voting centers for folks who may not be able to make it out to vote on tuesday. neil: thank you very, very much. forget the battle between the parties right now. if democrats were to seize the house, who is going to lead them? i raise this congressman tim ryan, he had challenged nancy pelosi for the leadership, take a look. >> we need new leadership and i'll just say, i think the new members coming in need to be our priority. neil: do you think she should lead democrats? >> my position hasn't changed on that. neil: okay. >> it's the same. again, we need people who can go into these congressional districts and we've got to get back to, yes, health care.
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neil: all right. so if democrats take over new leadership to help them do. democratic strategist, and c kat, what do you think? >> i think that the democrats obviously need new leadership. they're pretty much sick of the old democrats. look at what happened in the last election, with hillary clinton, actually losing to donald trump, which a lot of people thought was actually impossible. it really happened. we saw some movements going further left. a lot of the younger people further left than the older democrats and party further left and they might need leadership to reflect that. neil: nancy pelosi is a gifted fundraiser and raises a lot of money for the party, but a lot of lieutenants or the younger, you know, sort of renegades and ryan and maybe we should have new leadership. >> i think new is objective and
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subjective, i think there will be changes in leadership, but what that looks like will ultimately be determined how much democrats win the congress some news, november 6th. neil: in other words, if they were to seize the house and get much more than 23 seats, then would that be nancy pelosi's leadership post salute? >> we don't know. we've seen a number of candidates across the country who said they would not vote for her. we've seen some sitting members say they would not. what i know, there's a tremendous opportunity to make history and elevate jim cliburn to be higher post in leadership to be the first african-american in that post. neil: if they selected nancy pelosi would you as a democrat be disappointed? >> i don't know if that would happen. guess what, i don't know if members who said publicly on the record that they wouldn't vote for her go back on their word because they'd spend the next two years explaining why this he did. i'm not too caught up inside
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baseball, and margins, that would be a totally different conversation. neil: and you scared me with this, talking about my producer who likes to scare me. and this is the vice-president leaving for a rally in wisconsin, campaigning on behalf of scott walker, the governor there. jenna, let me get your sense where it's going, the leadership and control of each party. scott walker in the case of the republicans party, conservative soul, whether it's nancy pelosi or others. it's going to be a hard left person to lead? >> no, i didn't-- >> i think it's going to be that. do you think that that -- that will be kind of the battle royale here for the leadership in washington? >> i think so and i think that's the battle for voters as well. okay, are we going to take a hard left here and going to really stop everything that the president has advanced in the last two years, stop religious liberty, sanctity of life issues
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and to the hard left, socialism, abortion on demand, so many things that are very, very hard left. that's what the voters really need to look for is the margin of difference between the two parties here and that's what voters turning out on tuesday really need to focus on and i think that in terms of leadership, we need to be prepared that nancy pelosi, while she's saying this type of rhetoric, that, you know, the democrats will just have all peace and calm, that's just frankly not true. neil: it's a flip of the coin who is more hard left, right? >> as someone who does democratic policies on congressional for a living, what i know is that who will be in leadership next time around will be people who can campaign anywar and govern our party-- >> who is more liberal nancy pelosi or-- >> i think that mr. cliburn is one of the few people in our party who can go anywhere and campaign. neil: he's right to the left of here, right? ments no, you can't tout jim
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cliburn in the same conversation. neil: you don't think that if they don't go the nancy pelosi route they would go to a more moderating tone? >> i don't think they have moderates. >> who do you call people like-- >> look at what the congress has done through just all of the outrage and the outright hatred against president trump. if they take over congress, they promised impeachment, promised subpoenas. they are he not going rhetoric-- >> they have some moderates, but they're not up and coming and popular. we've seen popularity from ocasio-cortez. >> if you know she's know the congress and the reason she gets the attention she gets the right wants to make her the person and-- >> and crowley to be the-- >> she won a low turnout election. neil: do you think that the party turns harder left though?
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within a nano second of the results returns on tuesday they're going to tout running for president and most have pretty far left positions and are ceding to that part of the party. >> i don't think that the party will go far left. i think they'll do more to cater to hearts and minds of voters outside of california, new york and massachusetts. neil: you don't think they make a hard charge to-- >> i do not. i live by this one thing to get to the majority and other thing to maintain the majority and i think that democrats will be focused on that. neil: i know that cooler heads presumably reveil in that situation and we learn on the right and left that often times doesn't happen, but is it your sense that if democrats were to-- that that's a gift to donald trump then? >> not at all. i think if the house does go democrat then we're going to see an absolute stalling in washington, impeachment, subpoenas, and-- >> wait, not too many democrats
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have been talking about it, they might wish it and think it, but-- >> most value cal ones-- vocal ones have and that's why voters need to vote their values. >> you think that democrats have gone too far left. i think that talking about impeaching donald trump is more drumming up support. neil: and the democrats saying that and-- >> again, as someone who does democratic politics has a living, tell me who the people are, i don't see it. what i see across the country are democrats talking about quality of life issues and why you see us doing what we're doing in polls across the country and-- >> a lot of the messaging though is resist, and resist donald trump. neil: maxine waters. >> they're saying they're going tore impeachment, they are he going for a subpoena and that's what your leadership messages is. neil: mainstream democrats are talking about issues important to voters.
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neil: you why right on the health thing, but resonates dn-- >> thank you, cavuto. neil: we have a lot more coming up, including this issue of a birthright citizenship and whether that's a gem gimme and that's the way things should go. we'll talk to a professor later and saying he could be onto something there and a congressman who has quite the opposite view that this is hurting republicans and hurting america. henry cuellar is next.
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walking and moving northward. congressman henry cuellar is saying the president is using this as a cudgel and doing no one good. how are you good, how. neil: the president says it's a problem and takes exception to the notion that he's a racist or a bigot when, in fact, he can point to record numbers of legal immigrants being allowed into this country, this year likely one and a quarter million. last year 1.1 million. we can show the numbers. he's not against immigration. he's against illegal immigration. there's process, these folks are trying to avoid this, you say what? >> look my father was born in mexico and became a legal resident and naturalized citizen. my mom was born here so i believe in that legal process itself. but how we address the illegal immigration that we're facing out there, i don't think the
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military should be down there. i sit on the homeland appropriations and defense appropriations so i'm familiar with our defense forces and also familiar with homeland. i give a lot of credit to our men and women in green, which is border patrol. i give a lot of credit to our folks in blue, which is cdp and our ice officers. i support other ice officers. we've got to let them do their job. neil: so you don't agree with some of your democratic colleagues who say shut down ice, that they're way, way, overabusing their authority? >> absolutely not. in fact, when the resolution came to the floor, i went to the floor and i spoke in favor of ice. those are men and women that are doing their jobs. if we have an issue with the policy, that's something that congress needs to address, but we don't, you know, we don't attack our men and women whether they're cdp officers or border patrol or they're ice. i support those folks. they do a good job. policy issues, that's something
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we can certainly discuss in washington d.c. neil: congressman, are you troubled that this always becomes an overheated issue where the president can cite ms-13 and other elements we cannot prove are part of that group coming in. but by the same token we cannot say that the president is racist or unfair when he's letting more than 1.1 million people legally into this country and trying to maintain legal order, and that the only way to maintain that is to watch throngs coming in thinking they can cut in front of the line? we lost that feed there. i apologize for that. that was not deliberate. but i do want to get a read on all of this with matthew spaulding at kirby center for constitutional studies. what's interesting about professor spaulding, he is one arguing, the 14th amendment, the citizenship right to come into this country simply because
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you're born in this country isn't as black and white as it appears. it's nuanced and addressed again and again. the 14th amendment as i'm reading it here for you listen, all person born and naturallized in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction there of are citizens of the united states and of the state wherein they reside. your point is there's latitude for the president to say we've got to look at that. >> there's considerable latitude and considerable confusion about this topic. when the 14th amendment was written after the civil war, it was intended to deal with the slaves that had been freed by that war and make them citizens, but it raised this question what about everyone else who might be born in the united states? they said born or naturalized, but that wasn't enough. they added this phrase subject to the jurisdiction thereof, which they debated. what does that mean? because it raised this question,
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well, what about all the-- those who are born here that are of indian tribes, are they going to be citizens of the united states? so they added the phrase subject to the jurisdiction thereof for the purpose of making that precise distinction, that meant not merely abiding by the traffic laws within the country, it meant political allegiance, to whom are you allegiant. you can't have allegiance to another country and be given citizenship by mere birth. that was not their understanding at the time of the 14th amendment. neil: nor was it their understanding we would have illegals gain access to the united states and have a baby and that child becomes a legal citizen or by extension they end up staying here. i'm wondering where this goes, as often as it's been revisited, it's never been wiped out. i'm wondering if the president is in an uphill battle here trying. >> it's a particular situation.
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so the constitution said this subject to the jurisdiction of. the court, the supreme court has upheld that reading except for 1898 case in which they said permanent residents if they're born here get citizenship, but the supreme court has never clarified what about temporary visitors here on a tourist visa or those who are not here legally. the supreme court has not clarified that. neil: all right, let me be clear. the way it was interpreted at the time when they first came up with this you believe in 1866 after the civil war, people-- permanent rizs were automatically citizens something not afforded to slaves prior to that, but one of the things you argue that's interesting is that this is the way it's done in europe, right? that it's not by geographical origin, but by bloodline. what does that mean? >> so the most countries in the world, except for many of those in central and south america, no developed country except the united states and canada, all
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the countries of europe have rejected this approach, in europe-- >> this approach simply because you're born here. >> simply because you're born here. neil: what do they do in europe then, professor? >> europe follows the procedure of blood, by which they don't mean if you're germanic, somehow you're a german citizen. it followed from the parent. because the child was not of the age of consent, they would receive that citizenship from the parent. it would be inherited from the parent as opposed to the old soil-- >> one of the parents has to be. >> it could be one of the parents. section 14 of the 14th amendment sis congress has the power to determine these questions, which is my second half of this. is that congress has the power to determine. they pass laws to make those adjustments. for instance, john mccain, former senator, born in the panama canal zone, his parents are american and he was born out of the country and he's american
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because of that. and congress can make those changes. neil: it was meant to address if you were born in alaska before it became a state or hawaii before it was a state. you're an american citizen. >> and congress made the judgment and the president is making an executive order because the congress has not clarified and the supreme court has not made a mandate, without those he's obligated as president to execute the laws to tell those underneath him to execute it correctly. >> all right. professor, thank you. very, very much. >> great to be with you. neil: i want to remind you what's important never ever ever ever to forget here. this country has not shut down its borders. it has not prevented better than a million plus immigrants from legally finding a home and solace in the united states of america. look at those numbers. for those listening, 1.3 million. 1.8 million, 1 million, 1 million. almost a million. through the years republican presidents, democratic
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past anything that stands in its way. ...well almost anything. leave no room behind with xfi pods. simple. easy. awesome. click or visit a retail store today. >> all right. i told you that it is divided government and if the house were to go democrat, that for wall street, at least, you know, it's not the end of the world. in fact, they do well under split government. but bernie marcus is worried that it could portend problems down the road and what wall street likes to see. he's the home depot co-founder and works with a lot of groups that try to encourage employment across the country and bernie, good to have you back with us. >> how are you? great to see you. good morning to you. neil: all right.
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so your fear is that of the house switches, then what? >> well, look, so much progress has been made the last two years. you see the economic numbers are phenomenal, the job numbers are phenomenal, consumer confidence is at the highest level it's been in years and, you know, i think a switch in the government of pelosi, pelosi congress, the house is going to be a disaster for the united states. nothing will happen. he's been so successful, trump, in what he's done. i'll just give you an example, neil, very important. i watched obama yesterday make a speech and he talked about the economy and how he teed up the economy. well, it's amazing to me that he would even believe that, but you know what? the democratic propaganda machine is probably the most powerful in the world today and they could make you believe that
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red is blue. or blue is red. they have that ability to do that. but if you look at the numbers and you look at what has happened, and take regulations. regulations were stifling small businesses and big businesses along. every regulation that trump has become president they've eliminated before and that's a major, major impact in building, in oil, in gas. small businesses, epa. neil: are you surprised, bernie you're right about the regulations and that started the ball rolling, you're right. barack obama argues the comeback started with him after the recession, we can argue that little the cows come home. what do you make of what the president has been saying about the caravan and these other issues and not the economic issues you allude to or the great jobs report. to be fair he mentions it with the context of the belief that
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that doesn't get the voters out. >> i don't know. look, this caravan that's coming up, that's an invasion. that's not a group of people, ten, 12, 100 coming across the border. you're talking about thousands. that's an invasion. i don't know any country in the world that would allow a group like that to violate their borders. there is none. there is no country in the world that would allow that, but we have-- we have the liberals, the leftists who say, sure, open the borders to everybody. well, it doesn't work that way because it costs a lot of money to take care of these people, the social issues, and the issues that everybody pays for. look, everybody wants to have a job. everybody wants to take care of their families, and i believe that the more social services that you have, the less people take home in their paycheck and that's what they count on. that's one issue. the other issue that really confuses me a lot is that the
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democrats are running on health care, that health care is not available, that it's too expensive. my god, neil, they passed obamacare with not one single republican vote. and they just don't take any responsibility for it. they've put the responsibility over to the republicans who for some unknown reason have accepted it. that the issue that we have today with health care and by the way, premiums are up, they're skyrocketed. it was known when obamacare passed that in the year 2018 the numbers were going to go out of sight and 2019 going to be higher. everybody knew that, but nobody on the left side takes responsibility for it. neil: you might be right on that bernie. it is what it is and it is a dominant issue in these polls, fox news poll that says it's the number one issue for a lot of folks. i'm wondering should republicans
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or does that mean they have to embrace the fact that the government has a role in providing your health care or should they be more nuanced about it? because they seem to come with the short end of the stick on this issue. >> well, if it hadn't been for mccain's vote that would be gone. it wouldn't be an issue this year. they would have had a really good plan in place. neil: that didn't happen so what happens now? >> well, it didn't happen, but i think that the republicans can't allow them to go through the one payer. socialized medicine is a disaster. all you have to do is go across the border to canada. i have friends in canada and family. my nephew waited four months for a bypass surgery. i asked him to come down to the united states and do it here we could have had it done in one week. he waited four months for it. he also had cancer, he waited five months for treatment for cancer. you want that in the united states? i don't want it here.
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if you want it, you're nuts! but you know what people just don't-- >> and let's say-- i don't think that's a foregone conclusion bump you know, it would be one house, it would not be the senate and that's the consensus, always risky, but do you think it would dramatically alter the business landscape one way or the other with republicans still controlling two out of three branches? >> no, i think it will be very hard to get anything done. i don't think pelosi is going to be able to get her agenda through because the senate will stop it. but remember this, there's also the negotiation and in order to get more money for the military and in order to get more money where it's really needed, there will be a lot of compromises. neil: all right. >> and just like the last compromise in the military, it's going to cost the taxpayer money. neil: we shall see. >> it's not good. hey, listen, we're not going to lose the house, we're not going
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to lose the house. neil: all right, bernie marcus, thank you very much. that's the consensus view, to what it's worth, consensus view goes democrat, but be careful on the consensus view, because it said that hillary clinton would be president and we will have more after this. when you're a mom and an entrepreneur. with more businesses starting every day, how do they plan for their financial wellness? i am very mindful of the sacrifices that i make. so i have to manage my time wisely. plan your financial life with prudential. bring your challenges. whoooo. with tripadvisor, finding your perfect hotel at the lowest price... is as easy as dates, deals, done! simply enter your destination and dates... and see all the hotels for your stay!
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>> all right. if democrats were to take over the house of representatives, hillary clinton said a few weeks back on cnn that things would change, the tone would change. quoting here, you cannot be civil, hillary clinton, when the political party destroys what you stand for and care about. that's why i believe if we're fortunate enough to win back the house or senate that's when civility can start again. until then the only things that republicans seem to recognize and respect is strength. we're hearing from the missouri congressman cleaver and former chair of the congressional black caucus. sir, very good to have you. the tone according to hillary
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clinton and nancy pelosi are similar comments, will change in your party takes over. it seems to be unending i think anger stops. i cannot see that, but what about you? >> well, you know, the problem we have is that congress will never be able to change the rhetoric out in the world until we recognize what we've done and try to undo it and we'll see how difficult it is. i don't think we should, you know, start blaming each other before we even get sworn in for the next session of congress. i think that there's no question, there has to be a mellowing out of what's going on in washington, at least retorically and maybe even legislatively. neil: you know what i thought
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was weird about that, congressman. you're a minister by training so obviously a different breed, but i'm struck by the arrogance of that comment. you cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for, this is the other people will argue well, you're just as obstinate in your own stubborn positions. how is that all going to change if democrats take over? >> look, that's -- hopefully that secretary clinton meant something else because we need to be careful about what we say right now. if we do, in fact, plan to try to turn down the volume because every time we make a hostile statement, and i think some will interpret that to be hostile, they become more and more entrenched on the other side, whichever side is being pointed at. so we've got to turn down the
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volume no question about it. neil: and this gets to the core of politics in washington today and elsewhere, we're in charge it's more civil. they're in charge, they'll be uncivil. and no matter who is in charge it tends to deteriorate quickly. what would you advise, your party, republicans to do post tuesday? >> you know, my who ep is-- hope is when i get back if i can find 49 democrats and 50 republicans who will become the 100 men and women who are going to work to turn this volume down, to try to bring a higher level of discourse to washington, but no party can independent of the other party begin to repair what has been done. if we really are going to work on it, then the speaker of the house, whoever he or she may be, needs to sit down with the
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leader of the other side, whoever is elected leader, and start with great intentionality, declaring, we're going to work together to try to get some things done and we're not going to participate in name calling. i don't think that there's any value for the american people or the world in the united states continuing to do this. neil: and congressman, you practice that and you practice what you preach and your you are careful and pick your words carefully and i know you try very hard at that. it's fair to say that's not typical in washington. i guess what i'm asking you here, if it's the same leadership, in other words, you have the same leaders you do now in the majority, if you gain the house, that you've had in the minority, will anything change? do you think you should be looking for new blood? many of your colleagues say, yeah, we should and it can't be those same old guys. >> you know, i think that when
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we get back, i think i've seen said this to you before, i keep telling democrats, you can't start talking about rabbit stew until you catch the rabbit and right now we're in pursuit of the rabbit until at least we're in the wee hours of next tuesday. and then, i think we need to start talking about leadership. and i think many things ought to be taken into consideration as we vote for new leaders and one of them, i think, is whether or not we're putting people in place who really, really want to make congress work. it's not working now. it is broken. but we need to begin the process of repairing it because the whole nation, and maybe the world, depends on what we do. and i fear that if we don't begin to fix things, the united states -- i know people don't like to hear this, can begin an era of decline. neil: let me ask you a little about the environment right now. now, you often come on fox and
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you've been with me, and many in your party i'm sure urge you know the to, but you do so you stand out in that respect, but that's kind of like the tone in washington, and that's kind of done through even media appearances what you're talking to, the president is not much different choosing his venues speaking to those he deems friendly and those he does not. any advice for all of the above? >> sure. first of all, you know, you read the bible and you come to a section quickly about the fact that the first chance adam had, he blamed the woman. and that's what goes on in congress. just blaming people on the other side. and we've got to declare that we need to, you know, accept more blame than perhaps we deserve, and shun a lot of the credit we want. and i think one of the things i hope republicans and democrats will do, and hopefully the
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majority of us believe this, that we've got to put leaders in place who are not wanting to be leaders so we can go to war, because the overwhelming majority of americans, republicans, democrats, i am-- i believe in the depths of my heart would like to see their government work and i don't think they enjoy looking at all of this hostility, all of these negative ads are awful. i'm in the business and i don't like to look at the ads. i can imagine what the american people are thinking. i think we can fix things, but the leaders are going to have to be elected in part because they wanted-- they're interested in trying to do repair. neil: would that make you less likely to make nancy pelosi your leader? >> well, i think whether or not nancy pelosi becomes the leader will depend on the structure of what happens after the election. i mean, if the democrats win and win big, there's probably a much greater chance that she will be
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the speaker because there are a large number of members who frankly are running right now and have said to their constituents they would not vote for her. i think that's unfortunate, but that's the way it is and so, they probably will not vote for her or that would be the beginning of the end of their political career. so she would have to have a lot of votes to spare in order, i think, for her to win that seat and she's been a good strategic leader, one of the most fabulous fundraisers in the history of the democratic party. neil: well, you know, a lot of your colleagues volunteer, you know. your name comes up. >> well yeah, that's 'cause i don't cuss people out and-- (laughter) >> all right. thank you very, very much. congressman, always a pleasure. >> good to talk with you.
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>> all right. you ha few have been working harder to get out the vote than the president and in indiana, and the heated senate race and president obama expected there tomorrow to push for incumbent senator joe donnelly. and mike is in indianapolis. >> hey there, neil. the president after overnighting in indiana he's wheels up en route to montana. and a handful of tweets. what about the rally, they were incredible last night. packed house for mike braun for senate. don't forget to vote. trump has made multiple visits to indiana and make one more with the senate race as close as it can, asking for one more republican in the senate, mike braun, a businessman campaigns as a political outsider.
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>> mike braun is great on jobs, and he will always support our wonderful vets, our military, and our law enforcement, our police. and mike's opponent, joe donnelly is a vote to make-- senate majority leader. >> now, senator joe donnelly is a one-term incumbent democrat who says he's a moderate and voted with the president 62% of the time and he favored funding the border wall. he's pro gun, pro-life, but he voted against the confirmation of now justice brett kavanaugh so trump wants him out because of that vote and larger part the d in front of his name and that's why barack obama wants donnelly to say. the former president will try to
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swing them in donnelly's favor. the former president has been campaigning so much people attending the rallies say that his voice is getting hoarse. and indiana is a primary race, it's so close. the polls show the vote going in either direction and right now split by less than a point. neil. neil: thank you very much. mike tobin in indianapolis. meanwhile, governor scott walker, he's trying to run for governor again. he's got a tight battle on his hands. can the vice-president help him close the deal? after this. when my hot water heater failed it rocked our world. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they took care of everything a to z. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa- now that's a privilege.
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my name is mike, i'm in product development at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. >> all right, the vice-president of the united states mike pence is campaigning for wisconsin scott walker today. he's in a close race to fend off tony evers from unseating him. i believe it's the governor's fourth crack at this.
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i remember he was elected twice. there was a recall election in the middle of that. let's get the read why the governor races are so important, not only wisconsin, but where they're happening across the country and surprisingly tight races and former secretary to the vice-president, mark, president and ceo of run america, david bernstein. and people forget the vice-president has a great deal of clout in that region and i'm wondering what kind of help he will be to scott walker, what do you think? >> he will be a lot of help to governor walker. they're long time friends and before being vice-president, mike pence was governor of indiana. he knows what it takes to be a good governor which scott walker is. anytime you're going for a third term as an elected official, it's a lift. people get fatigue. scott walker is a fighter and he's not done yet and i think he'll pull that one out in the end. neil: we're focused on so many
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of these gubernatorial races, in the crucial ones they're within points. talking florida, wisconsin, even in connecticut, relybly blue state where they're within four or five points of each other. what's going on here? that's a divided electorate as you can find. >> well, look, i think this is not actually that out of step with every election when we get down to this point. there's a handful of voters who is going to decide the election and make up their mind, they're in the process of which they're making up their mind even though we have a country where we think it's staked out. neil: and there could be a swing. anything we should pay attention to that should be important to follow, that we might not be? >> i think the jobs report from friday gives republicans a lot of momentum, as we've long said, it's the economy, stupid. we can talk about other issues and people vote with their wallet. neil: i don't know in a a midterm election that applies
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too much? >> since this has been a nationalized election in many respects and democrats running on a campaign to take us back to where we used to be, it's a powerful motivator. the president's out there. the vice-president is out there in full force and this is going to be close, it's going to be right down to the wire and i doubt we know the full election results by early wednesday morning, it could be days, if not a week afterwards. neil: be careful with that because i'm on the air as this is going on. david, what's your sense of what we're missing or what we should be focusing on? >> look, i think a lot of these polls could end up be well off. we obviously went through this movie before not two years ago and when it comes down to it, inge-- i think this is an election in which atypical voting patterns take place. there may be higher turnout of some groups, like women, than people are projecting and lower turnouts than other groups that people are projecting, for instance. there could be some surprising races and congressional races that seem very close that actually end up going by wide
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margins and governor races that go the other way. i think that wouldn't be at all surprising and people should be prepared for surprises. i can't say which ones they'll be. neil: mark, is it your sense as well that the presidential race is on within earnest within minutes of the final votes are tallied. >> it hasn't really stopped. the president is full bore, and i was with him and vice-president, and they're fully engaged making sure we'll get every single vote. most scary words out there are chairman pelosi and speaker maxine waters. neil: thank you both, very very much. what's at stake on tuesday besides the obvious after this.
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