american warriors, shawn parnell , rob o'neill, and medal of honor recipient dakota meyer himself on this marine corps birth day we'll ask them all big questions about this country, veterans day. ed: we'll see you tomorrow. pete: stick with us. >> katie: head to fox & friends.com. pete: and the after the after the show-show we'll have some bourbon. ed: maybe. pete: that's real news. neil: the rumble over the recount is on, and that great 2000 show is playing again 18 years after counting in florida. guess what they're doing it all over again in florida. now the lawsuits are not gone and not just in florida. we'll speak to rnc chair ronna mcdaniel on the potentially shrinking landscape for republicans and our market pros on the potentially shrink ing impact for your money, how much longer and what is french for can't we all just get along? president trump and french

president macron try to make nice in paris but the chill remains, 100 years after the war ends the administrations fight over why the u.s. still tries to avoid those wars we'll talk to our ambassador to germany and then i want you to look at this caravan of illegals. the president is getting grief over not letting them in and now i want you to look at this class of newly sworn in american citizens. not a peep about the hundreds of thousands of them. the president had this country continue letting in, and a lesson on legal versus illegal immigration, that bears repeating. again and again. here, and only here, and it's all about getting it right, it's all about getting the big picture clear. it's all about being fair, and balanced and it all starts right now. it is the battle over the ballots, lots of ballots in broward county, florida to be more specific doug mcelway in

lauderdale on the very latest on the sunshine state controversy. neil we're standing outside the broward county supervisor of election office, brenda snipes. we've been told that her staff will allow us to come into the headquarters to witness the can advancing of provisional ballots which is supposed to start resuming at 10 a.m. again but the reporters that i spoke to who were here yesterday who were told the same thing said it was an absolute chaotic situation here, that there was very little supervision of how it worked, how many reporters would be allowed and so we'll see how that works and if they invite us in while on the air we'll go in and see what happens. other indications of chaos have been watching as some of the election lawyers from all of the various political camps have been coming in here to canvas the provisional ballots and the police are keeping some of them at bay, because there's no prerequisite for what allows people to come in or go, no credentials involved here all

sort of very spontaneous, so it's very very trouble some in that sense, there's no blueprint on how to do this. the 2,000 blueprint doesn't work very well. speaking of that, you remember the butterfly ballots of 2000 neil, there's been a problem with the ballot this year around it's not a butterfly ballot but it includes the senate race, on the left-hand side of the column with the instructions, which is against florida election law one of many many problems associated with the brenda snipes the supervisor of elections here. it's one of the reasons that janet klomberg came here today a trump supporter tell us why you're here what concerns you? >> we're here because the integrity of our election has been at stake in broward county for a long time and what we've witnessed by tim canova's staff that we're filming an enterprise truck with cars in november 8 in the dead of night and nobody was , there was no police escort for those vehicles, there was a woman there filming them asking them where is the police escort? there was no person in there.

now, last night, congressman matt gates was here and that enterprise truck pulled up in the dead of night and we don't know what was on that truck. we haven't been able to independently verify that but we're keeping our eyes on it and in touch with the congressman to see if he can provide us the video which he allegedly shot but we haven't confirmed it in the meantime we'll keep an eye on things neil back to you. neil: thank you very much, by the way florida is not the only state with election issues. a whole host are facing similar ones. fox business deirdre bolton has more. >> so we will of course talk about some of the other ones including georgia and arizona but quickly with florida there is one race that could head to mandatory recount that is the governors race. if you look at the senate race as our colleague was just talking about that for the moment is still under the threshold, quick review of facts , florida governor rick scott of course running for senate and alleging that the state of florida has not been counting correctly, talking about rampant fraud in two

counts he's essentially accusing democrats of trying to steal the election there, so right now it is worth noting that his lead is narrowing over senator bill nelson and as i mentioned, right this second we are still under the threshold for a mandatory recount in florida, but look at the governor's race. this is not quite so clear. this could be going to an automatic recount, so the ap, as we know, did in fact call the race, for republican desantis, but his lead as well narrowing over the tennessee mayor andrew gillum. we know that gillum conceded but i took these notes, neil. according to a political scientist with the university of florida a big election watcher there they have a big department , more than 13,000 male ballots returned on election day, had issues that may effect the outcome of that race. okay going further west, so to arizona. hundreds of thousands of ballots yet to be tallied, so congresswoman actually has a

slight read now over congresswoman martha mcsally it's around 2,000 votes so close , georgia republican republican brian kemp as we know declaring victory in the governors contest against democratic stacey abrams. that georgia race is under so much scrutiny because of secretary of state kemp is the state's top election official voting rights groups some democrats accuse kemp of using his position to block minority votes and strongly denied the accusations and abrams vowing to pursue litigation to make sure every single vote is counted so some races still outstanding, neil looks like a few rough weeks ahead back to you. neil: could you imagine all four of the ones in question were to flip to the democrat i mean that would change obviously the map substantially here. all right let's get the read on all of that from fox news contributor former federal prosecutor andrew mccarthy. andrew, what are the legalities with this? when you start recounting and all of this each party its been a group of lawyers to try to argue the point as being unfair

to them or the process is being unfair and then you get these reports out of florida about a truck that shows up in the middle of the night. i mean, you can't verify any of this stuff, but it leads to paranoia. what is the type of stuff they look into? >> yeah, i think, neil, the technical legal term for this is hot mess. neil: [laughter] >> because you really are in a situation where there aren't a lot of, there are rules to speak of but i guess everybody who is under them takes them more as suggestions, and you're in a kind of a almost in coherent legal situation where if you are ahead, the idea is to try to get a solid read on exactly the world that we're talking about, so for example, how many mail-in ballots are there, how many provisional ballots. what you want to do is get some certainty in the equation so at least you're dealing with a known world and of course if you're behind, your incentive is

to have as much chaos and uncertainty as possible and to stretch out as long as you can the amount of time where there's the possibility of more votes flooding into the system, so that's really where we are, and what people are trying to do is impose some order on the chaos. neil: now we're told that the original idea was by noon today less than two hours from now all a part of 67 counties had to report their numbers or at least their results. now it's going to be very hard apparently for broward county to do that, the epicenter where a lot of the controversy but what's the penalty or what happens to those who don't? >> yeah, this is the real problem. the rules can say what they say, but don't you guys in economics have a rule that what can happen won't happen? neil: well you're right you're right. yeah, so if the rule says that something must be done by noon, and it's not done by noon, then

it'll be done when it's done, and people can run to court and ask for deadlines to be imposed, but if what is physically required to happen can't happen within the deadline, then people just have to do the best they can and that's okay as long as we have a situation where both sides are able to watch it and monitor what's going on. i think the problem that you've had in florida is there are a lot of things that apparently may impact the situation which have gone on without watchful eyes on top of them, and what the lawyers are down there trying to do right now, i think, is try to get their arms around all that, and i think a couple of things could be said that maybe we could take some comfort in. there's 67 counties in florida. there's really two problematic ones we're talking about. provisional ballots are a problem, but i did some research on this this morning. in past elections in florida,

these provisional ballots have not topped more than about 1,300 in these contested elections, so even though these are very very tight elections at the moment, we have a governors race that where it's around 15,000 separating the two candidates. we have a, did i just give you the senate race? the senate race is about 15,000. neil: but that is down. that is down from 60,000 election. >> yeah, substantially. neil: that's what raises eye brows could they have narrowed by that much. >> yeah, well they have to get their arms around the world of this stuff. they still have military ballots and overseas ballots coming in that's supposed to be straightened out by next thursday or so. if there's to be a recount, if it's less than 5% or less than half a percent i should say, it'll be an automatic machine recount. that should start tomorrow. if it's less than a quarter of a percent, they have to do it by

hand. it's all supposed to be wrapped up by thursday, neil but what can't won't happen. neil: and i'm supposed to eat a salad. we'll see, i mean, hopes eternal thank you very much, my friend, andrew mccarthy. by the way not just that president trump tweets by the way president macron of france tweeted in english a short time ago about his meeting with the president. you know the two have been going back and forth at each other, over who is paying their fair share when it comes to military expenditures and all that, quoting from macron, we just had a very good conversation with president trump on counterterrorism, european defense, iran, syria and the gulf region, libya, many other issues of common interest for france in the united states. all of this comes of course after the president was highly critical of mcron's idea to get a european army, that would deal with european issues. just to say that europe has one view of going forward on this, obviously the french and the

european angela merkel with mc ron live in paris, the u.s. ambassador to germany joins us right now. ambassador good to have you. is this a divisive issue, i thought it was settled but apparently it's not. >> well first of all, neil let me just say that you should be eating salads. you were absolutely right. neil: thank you very much for that reminder. thank you. >> [laughter] look, i don't think that it is an issue. it is totally settled because nato said it's settled. nato is the greatest alliance that we've had. it's the most successful alliance in the history of the world, and i think it's really important to remember that whether it's france or germany or any european country, anyone whose a member of nato, nato has been very clear that each country is to pay 2% of their gdp towards defense spending, and i think that to be a member

of nato, you need to follow the rules of nato, so all president trump is trying to do is to do something in support of a multi- lateral organization like nato. there's a lot of criticism about not believing in multi-lateral organizations or acting unilaterally and here is the president trying to enforce a multi-lateral institution like nato, and we are the ones that are saying if you believe in nato, if you believe in the push that nato has, the article v, the protection, the group protection so to speak, if you believe in european security, then you shouldn't undercut nato by not paying what nato says that you're supposed to pay and by the way one other point here. nato gives a list of projects and equipment and strategies that countries sign up for, so

whether it's france or germany, they actually sign up for different programs at nato, and it's just like a wedding registry. you sign up for what you want to give and you pay for it, and so this is something that countries have said we can do and all president trump is trying to say is you need to do this by the deadline which is 2024. your commitment is 2% by 2024. live up to your commitments. neil: well i got the impression, ambassador that the french and the germans might not and they are pursuing other things going beyond what the president might have stipulated which might have triggered this sort of in your face response on his part. is it your sense that macron maybe i extension of angela merkel are saying no, we like this idea, maybe the european army or some such stuff an alternative to just relying on the u.s. that they're backing away from the u.s. or that they're trying to worm out of this agreement what do you make

of that? >> first of all there is this concept of the european army or the european military and our position is very clear, that you can do extra things over and above your nato commitment, if you want, but don't undercut nato. don't try to have this as a substitute program for nato. the french are on track or at least they say they're on track to meet their nato commitments. the germans are not. we still don't have a single politician in germany who has stood up and said "we will meet the nato commitment of 2% by 2024". what we heard from the germans is that they will have 1.5% by 2024 so we're looking for countries who are members of nato to make their commitments known and, you know, it's only fair. we talk about burden sharing. the one thing to remember is that there are 33,000 american men and women here in germany alone that are committed to

european defense and germany safety and so we are making our commitments very well known. we're increasing those commitments, president trump has made it clear that he will increase defense spending. we are making our commitments very loud and we want others to also do the same thing at nato. neil: real quickly but only because you mentioned that salad thing, ambassador your name is still on that short list to be u.n. ambassador to replace nikki haley. are you interested in that post? >> look, i'm very happy doing my job here in berlin and i serve at the pleasure of the president and i will say that it's a huge pleasure to work for the president. anyone who gets to work on the foreign policy team is lucky to be having a front row seat, so you know, we all just defer to the president on that. neil: that is such a perfect answer. ambassador always good seeing you thank you very very much. our german ambassador, so let's

get a read right now from the former white house spokesman, best selling author sean spicer. it's always good to have you. one thing that's interesting when i notice the president meeting with these foreign leaders, his approval ratings are now higher than most of them , macron is at 29% record low, angela merkel giving up leadership of her party the only question is when. she's in the low 30s and theresa may in the mid-30s. it's remarkable a complete turnaround from a little more than a year ago. how is the dynamics changing? >> well if i can let me just, if you'll indulge me for one second i know ambassador couldn't comment on it but he's doing a fantastic job and i think he'd be a phenomenal choice to fill that position at the u.n. if the president thinks he's the right guy. he's done an amazing job in germany, he's continued to be a strong advocate for the president and he's getting results. neil: the name i keep hearing mentioned is of course a former fox news person from the state

department. >> but i think the president's blessed with some great choices this time. neil: well who would you prefer if you had your choice, those two people who would you prefer? >> you can't, [laughter] all i'll say is that that's asking to choose between your children. i mean, i think the world of them. neil: i do that every day, so all right so well we'll leave that aside. >> but i know rick can't answer the question so i'll answer it for him and say he's done an absolute fantastic job getting results. neil: he is he's doing a very good job but i always hope to get them on a weak moment like with you so let me get your sense of what's going on now the president made it very very clear that he wasn't going to tolerate this talk that the french have had maybe by extension the germans for their own army as a way that he feared might be going around the u.s. to fund and help fund nato. what did you make of that? >> well i think a couple things one to the first part of your question, i think they're so used to having an american president that goes and gets involved in the happy talk, they

all meet, they say great things about each other. i think they learned right off the bat that this president wasn't there to sort of make friends and steal a bunch of happy talk he was there to get results for the american people, and in this particular case of nato and nato funding he's a strong supporter of article v, but he recognizes that these folks, they can't just continue to have the u.s. carry the burden. part of the entire nut of nato is to be a check against russia, and if they're going to talk about defending themselves against russia it can't just be the u.s. that's shouldering the burden. they've made self-imposed commitments as to the percentage of their gdp they will be willing to spend and grow to, to defend their own countries, their own continent, and i think that the president gets offended when you hear them talk about well we'll do this other stuff as well. i mean it's as if the u.s. is just going to sit back and allow our tax dollars to defend them and in an organization which we have been supporters of as a

nation. they should at the very least show the commitment to meet what they themselves laid out. neil: let me switch to politics, in florida obviously georgia, arizona, mississippi of course they're going to a fresh election, a run off election here. it's possible that in three out of four of the situations the republican seat flips, and i'm wondering what you make of that and how it changes what we thought happened on tuesday. >> it's very concerning. i mean and it should concern everybody. here is the thing that i find fascinating when i see a lot of the democrats on television and expressing themselves, they keep talking about how every vote should count. absolutely i agree with that but the funny thing is we have a weird nation of laws and when you look at what's going down in broward and palm beach in particular you have two counties out of 67 in florida, i mean, you've noted it several times so far in your show but there was a deadline in which you had to have a report to the state how

many ballots were cast in palm beach starting at 10 on wednesday afterwards they haven't reported since, state law requires that they report every 45 minutes. what's going on in broward county is an absolute disgrace. the idea that on election night you had roughly 615,000 plus or minus votes cast, and now you have over 700 something thousand cast, within five days after the election all of these mysterous ballots are found, boxes of them unchecked? this is wrong. i mean, we should feel confident in the integrity of our voting system and the idea that these two counties in particular in florida are not obeying when votes are supposed to be tallied and counted and reported. neil: we will watch it, sean, thank you very very sir sorry to cut you off there we have to go to our commercial break and have to get a sense of how the new congress will look after this. we're in memphis, tennessee, a city with one of the highest increases of women-owned businesses in the u.s. it's really this constant juxtaposition

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neil: all right, this is in broward county, florida right now, more crowds there on both sides, there's a count going on of ballots there better than 600,000 of them in broward county, and republicans say they're dragging their feet, democrats say we're trying to get this right, the election supervisor there is under a whole boatload of pressure here because by noon today about 90

minutes from now all 67 counties in florida have to have their counts in and what happens after that is anyones guess. it's a lawyer's fiesta for the time being. we're keeping an eye on it right now because the race is so close to dead even not only in the gubernatorial battle where the lead for rick scott the governor right now for the senate race has gone down from about 60,000 to under 15,000 right now and even in the battle for governor the tallahassee mayor gillum said now within just a stones throw of a tie with ron desantis who had been declared the victor of course on election night. a lot has changed since then. what we do know is that republicans no matter what happens, will maintain their lead in the senate, obviously maybe not bias much as originally thought, we shall see and in the house where it looks like the democrats will pick up close to 30 seats if not more, when all is said and done i believe eight races are still un accounted for so that would mean obviously split government

markets, particularly republican s who fear that it's going to be target trump with non-stop investigations, already of course who will head the how judiciary committee and others are following suit. the read on all of that with fox news contributor jessica tarlov, trump 2,020 advisory board member, madison we've also got former new york congressman dan heyward. this is going to be a mess. >> yes. neil: bottom line it's going to be a mess. the question is how much of a mess, the election had the final count is it just investigation after investigation, or will there be other areas in which both parties find common ground? >> well neil they should find common ground you and i both know that and everybodies mentioned infrastructure. democrats like it because it's public spending, and republicans like it because of course we do need infrastructure. neil: well i don't know if republicans like it but their president likes it. >> a lot of republicans do, neil i know because i was there, but here is the thing. most democrats aren't coming back to congress or coming to

congress because folks want some people yes, some voters want the president investigated and they want the book thrown at him but i think vastly more americans including ones who voted for these democratic majority want them to get stuff done, so to the extent that people like jerry nadler, who we know, spent four hours, it should be two but that's talking about his plans to impeach justice kavanaugh, good luck with that politically. neil: jessica do you think, i think most even nancy pelosi said you know, it's all common ground, so what do you make of what happened? >> i think that they will look for common ground. i think there will be some investigations as you mentioned the tax returns, that president trump is profiting off of the presidency without properly disconnecting from his hotels where he has the saudi enter entourage spending hundreds of thousands of dollars but i think at the end of the day they are looking for common ground and ways to legislate so going into

2020 they can say these are our accomplishments so working together on maybe a more fair tax plan is a good idea, infrastructure for sure i disagree sounds like a lot of republicans don't want on infrastructure. neil: i don't see much progress. the parties are miles apart on that issue. >> i think jessie can makes a valid point going into 2020 with everyone wanting t run for president they are want to point to x, y, and z they were able to accomplish for their country if they continue to fight and do absolutely nothing they realize people are going to get more sick of it and not really want to vote for next president of the united states. neil: right, democrats can argue that senate and the president fell to the republican jands the president will come back and say well look at the houses and democrats. >> and of course usually it's excuses but i think people are sick of the excuses as far as individuals across this country they want to say okay this is what's benefiting me they don't care about everything going on in washington. they want direct identifiable quantifiable results in their own lives and congress needs to produce it to them.

>> the president has proven that deregulation in tax cuts do work. >> people don't think that though if they look at the exit polling and health care was so disproportionately ahead of the economy in terms of the most important issue. neil: but joe donnelly in indiana. >> but that was one of the big surprises but it looks like kristin is going to end upcoming out on top in arizona i imagine in florida that rick scott still holds on and ron desantis, but when all is said and done in terms of congressional counting it looks like we get 38-40 seats once california is done. there's a huge blue wave there. neil: by the way those eight races that are still -- >> they're all leaning. neil: and that could change. >> of course it could. neil: but it puts the house more favored democrats for a while doesn't it? >> right but i mean coming into tuesday a lot of people believed there would be a blue wave across both the house and the senate. neil: the consensus was -- >> but the senate they would pick-up a couple seats in the

house we would have high 20s. >> a lot of people i talked to thought that the democrats had a chance of taking the senate with the party of the president in the first mid-terms after they were elected it's an average also of two and a half seats we gained seats that was a big win for the republicans on tuesday. neil: what motivated that vote and changed that vote? did a bad joke actually lead to a big win for a former navy seal we'll talk to him after this. when my hot water heater failed, she was pregnant, in-laws were coming, a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they were on it. it was unbelievable. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa- now that's a privilege. we're the baker's and we're usaa members for life. usaa. get your insurance quote today.

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>> dan crenshaw. you may be surprised to hear he's a congressional candidate from texas and not a hitman. >> [laughter] >> i'm sorry, i know he lost his eye in war or whatever. neil: all right, well guess who had the last laugh on that one, dan crenshaw easily re-elected

as the texas congressman-elect i should say former navy seal and much much more, and you know what's interesting the way you reacted was not to go back at them or to ask for an apology or anything of the sort you just sort of laughed it off and i'm sure friends were urging a different response. why did you respond that way? >> yeah, well to be part of the solution, not part of the problem in this country. that's what leadership is i think and i was just elected as a leader, and i think america could use a little bit more of that. we can identify something as pretty offensive which it was. neil: were you offended? >> but i don't have to be offended just because it was offensive and i think that's the line that we could all walk in our lives. neil: you didn't ask for an apology. >> no, i didn't ask for an apology. i did ask for some donations to some veterans causes i thought that would be a good way to bring us together it's veterans day weekend, and i think that would be an excellent way to do things to bridge the gap between

civilians and military. i think that would be a great thing to talk about too, as people are always wondering how to do that. how do you thank somebody for their service? how do you approach a veteran, and what i like to tell people is is you don't always have to say thank you for your service. you could say like never forget and what you're actually letting that veteran know is that you're in it with them as more of a team effort we all don't forget veteran sacrifices and we don't forget 9/11. neil: obviously have you heard from anyone on snl? >> yeah, the producers reached out privately and apologized and are looking into those demands i set out for them. neil: among the demands, you had them, some of your loyal friends and backers said put him up on s nl. i should ask them about that. neil: but you're not interested? >> i don't know. neil: meanwhile, you come into a house that's going to be dominated by democrats now. what do you do to stand out in that sort of situation?

>> well, we have no choice. we've got to look for things we can work on together one of the most important things for my district is flooding mitigation we're still reeling from hurricane harvey to my ability to work with the army corps of engineers is going to be exceptionally important and not very party partisan in nature. it was the democrats and the president are looking at infrastructure and again we all want infrastructure the question is republicans are always going to bring up is fiscal conservatism. that's great how do we pay for it and that conversation needs to be had but it should be a good conversation. neil: but do you worry that debt and building deficits were not among the top issues even for voters, even though it's a problem and one where democrats and republicans are equally contributing. >> you're absolutely right and this is something i campaign on heavily. and you're not supposed to as a candidate, it's the third rail of politics don't talk about entitlement or reform but i speak to my generation as well so i'm 34. neil: i have ties older than you

>> you should get new ties. medicare goes bankrupt in 2026 social security is going in solvent in 2034. this is going to crush my generation. these programs won't be around for us. the big lie put out throughout the democratic party is they're there to save these programs medicare medicaid and save social security. what they're talking about is employee expanding those programs to the point where they implode. we have to make common sense reforms. neil: but the president has been leary of touching that issue. he doesn't. i know. neil: does that trouble you that it's not the will to address that? it is exploding for your generation and everyone else. >> it should trouble anyone my age. we have to start talking about this, well of any age frankly. we have to start talking about it. we can save seniors benefits and also make sure these programs are around for my generation but you do have to make hard decisions and actually have to have a healthy political discussion about it, that's why

i encourage all millennials and all young people to get behind this idea of fiscal conservatism it's the only thing to save our country. neil: but we still live in divisive times. you easily won your district the fact of the matter is and we can see from these protests going on broward county, florida right now getting worse and worse both sides lined up, armed with their lawyers arguing the point to get what they want out of this. i don't know what it is about florida, others is that congressman it's just sort of a metaphor for our times and representative of the 50/50 country. do you buy that? >> i might. the details, florida has so many issues. broward county has so many issues. when you have a bad management system and a bad system to begin with, it shouldn't surprise you that there's going to be anger on both sides, when it doesn't exactly go your way because there's too many points of failure there. do a better job probably elect somebody else to run those elections in broward county. neil: when you talk a little bit

about the spending that goes on here, we have 700 billion or so defense budget. do you think that should be included in pruning with other areas as well? >> yeah, what we have to do is in the defense budget is a couple of things. one, remove waste. there's a lot of waste that goes on. two, give military leaders and commanders a better idea of what's coming. look at five-year budgets perhaps. they need to understand that whatever contracts they put in place will continue. they need to be able to plan ahead. they don't really have that ability right now continuing resolutions are terrible for the military, and we need to give them the incentives to save, also you don't need to spend all your money at the end of the year, because we should be able to assure them they are going to get that same amount next year. little things like that would actually save quite a bit of money for the department of defense. neil: finally back to what we started on and we'll take a quick break. do you feel that the snl incident and everything else is actually in a weird way made

you among the most recognizable faces in the new congress? >> yeah, [laughter] no doubt, no doubt. i think i might have been one of the most recognizable anyway, but yeah, we just snl really wanted to make sure that would happen. neil: i don't think you have to worry about that right now. dan crenshaw, texas congressman easily winning the election and of course he lost his eye in combat as a former navy seal not funny stuff but he laughed it off. we'll have more after this. you've had quite the career. i like working. what if my retirement plan is i don't want to retire? then let's not create a retirement plan. let's create a plan for what's next. i like that. get a plan that's right for you. td ameritrade. ♪ whoooo. did you know the exact same hotel room... ...can have many different prices? that's why tripadvisor searches over 200 booking sites to find the lowest price on the hotel you want. your perfect hotel room for the perfect price!

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neil: showing you in broward county, florida, inside where they're going through ballots this is that of 600,000 ballots. now in about an hour and 14 minutes or so, all 67 florida counties, i think it's 67, have to have their votes tallied and in to the state board of elections, and then still go through the statewide count. there will be a recount, automatic recount, that is built in place when that senate battle between rick scott and ben nelson got even, or to the point that it got within 3/10 of a vote and the issue that rick scott raised is that he doesn't know what the process is in broward the only county where that's unknown and it's overwhelm democratic and the democratic lawyers are there and republican lawyers are there and

what about the market fallout and we've got fox business network, deirdre deirdre bolton and charles this could dragon for a while what do you think? charles: you're absolutely right neil let's think of what happened with the market the day after the mid-terms, the stock market took off the dow had one of its best sessions in a long time up almost 600 points so it was a combination of it's over, democracy works and our republic is still standing and i think they were also pretty happy market participants that the trump economic agenda couldn't be messed with and the gop still controlled the senate and by a wide margin it could have been at five seats. that margin shrinks or the uncertainty continues and it'll have an impact at least initially on the stock market. neil: does it enter into your planning? >> well certainly. i mean, charles just mentioned the rally on wednesday. i actually sold that rally late in the day.

i took profits on my favorite names because i kind of had a feeling it was a little bit too good to be true and a little bit too far. going forward i think you have to be -- neil: you're like a momentum investor right? >> well yes there is a portion of it. neil: still legal. >> of course, but my stocks are oversold, i buy but there's lots of different strategies that you have to touch on all of them but from a political perspective, when the democracy appears under threat as it does in broward county right now, i think that that will not only hurt markets but it hurts the country as a whole and the markets have to price in a lot right now. chinese tariffs, oil prices, i mean, a lot going on right now that charles mentioned uncertainty. there's always uncertainty but right now it's heightened. neil: you know, deirdre is this a preview of coming attractions in 2020? i don't know what it is about this state. been there done that. i thought we got over that. but apparently not.

>> apparently not i was just going to say that too. been there done that unfortunately for floridians a lot of jokes but this is serious these people are obviously each side really wants its point made i do think this does actually add an element of uncertainty. i'm with you charles we looked at market data you go back to the 80s or before you normally do get a stock market rally okay this is in fished mid-terms we go what the government will look like for next two years we can focus on other things even if it is perhaps potential negatives we're worried about slowing growth in china, this can't be good for the stock market. neil: not just florida but in georgia and arizona, and mississippi, where, you know, they're going to have an election three of four of those states could see seats that look republicans switch back democrat i mean that could be for this market that likes the tuesday results, it could be jarring wouldn't it? >> it could be that's why i'm saying the margin was a comfort and the idea that at the very least, the economic agenda

already in place, lower taxes, wiping out so many regulations which it has really added so much to this economy that people don't even realize it, and then -- neil: but you're still bullish right? charles: i am, our economy is on fire. i think some of the problems around the world will work themselves out but i think american stocks in general are now oversold, so but mid-term, the volatility is something people aren't accustomed to right now. neil: what do you think steve, still bullish? >> i'm a lot less bullish i am selling the rallies right now. this is normally a time of year we do get momentum for the up side, so i'm trying to use that to my advantage. i'm came a little at a large cash position but not as large as i have been running much of the year so i'm trying to rebuild that as we go into years end. i see a slowing of growth maybe out a year. i think that it's a real threat that could impact and the slowing of earnings also not to mention especially if the margin s are compressed by what's going on with china so there are reasons to be nervous. we may have very positive

headlines such as an infrastructure deal which could be possible if the democrats are more focused on legislation. as a fiscal conservative does that deal, would a deal like that bother me? yeah it would but also capitalize on it. neil: we'll take a quick break here and get back to the latest. we're not forgetting by the way these incredible wildfires going on in california. at least nine are dead with thoughts that the worst is yet to come. they cannot get anything approaching control of this. we're on it after this. ce was e. i switched to geico and saved hundreds. excuse me... winner! that's a win. but it's not the only reason i switched. hi! geico has licensed agents who i can reach 24/7. great savings and round the clock service? now that's a win-win. winner. winner. yay me! oh, hi! good luck. switch to geico®. it's a win-win.

neil: they cannot get it under control. fox news correspondent now with the latest out of paradise, california on the fires that will not quit. claudia? reporter: just total devastation here, neil good morning to you on the main drag business after business have simply been incinerated in fact more than 6,000 hopes and structures have been wiped out by this fire, making the campfire the most destructive ever in california history. take a look at this dramatic video. some people had to have actually drive-thru the flames to escape. this fire has claimed nine lives so far most of the victims found in or near their cars. 35 people are listed as missing and officials say the death toll could rise meantime 27,000 evacuees have no idea when they will be allowed to come back.

in southern california around malibu and thousand oaks the out of control woolsey fire burned more than 70,000-acres and claims two lives across the state more than 17 5,000 acres have burned and here is another staggering number there has been more than 5,600 fires so far this year and now president is weighing in "there's no reason for these massive, deadly and costly fires in california etiquette trump tweeted this morning. billions of dollars are given each year with so many lives lost because of gross miss management of the forest. remedy now or no more fed payments. back here in paradise, the campfire has grown to 100,000- acres, 20% contained, calmer winds should ally for an air attack today, neil. neil: we hope so, claudia. we'll have more after this. everything i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back. which i used to offer health insurance to my employees.

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>> all right. i want to go live to brenda snipes, the broward county supervisor of elections. detailing for reporters how the count is going, 700,000 ballots, confusing ballots at that time we're told and where the count right now is leading. let's listen in. . >> and this is in reference to early voting and vote by mail. because the election day has to come in from the precincts by different methods. then those don't come out in the first 30 minutes. so you're not expected to be

complete, to have a complete result for 700,000 people 30 minutes after the polls close because we do vote, our voters in different methods. early voting, vote by mail and election day. i mentioned the overseas. overseas, we have up to ten days after the election to get those votes tabulated. so you won't see the overseas ballots today. thank you. any other questions? yes. >>, [inaudible question] >> i asked the question about everseas ballots. and the ones -- are you tabulating those on in roll in basis and adding those two numbers? >> some of those have already been tabulated yet, others remain, the others that remain we'll hold those to meet the

deadline. >> and the numbers are not just added to the official numbers at the website yet? >> i don't know if this has been updated. i'm not sure. >>, [inaudible question] >> my recommendation as supervisor of the elections for broward county, for over one million voters is that if a voter has come to the polling place and has been identified as a valid voter, we looked at the-- each record through yesterday and most of those voters were spot on in terms of their information that they provided on the ballots. as supervisor of elections, recognizing how important the vote is, it's hard for me to make a decision to say we'll put so many of those votes in the

system and so many of them will get -- i'm making a recommendation to the canvassing board that we give consideration to 205 persons who were active voters in broward county. they went to the right precincts and registered voters. their signatures did differ in some ways, but everything else was a spot on match for the information that they provided the system and i think the emphasis that we've placed on eastern having an opportunity to express their voice, i have no idea who-- which votes are represented. let's just say we'll pull out the 31 votes, or pull out the 22 votes. how would that work. we received a ballot from every single voter, some of them are from different places, they're from different countries, and

they may not fully understand all around small details, but it seems unfair to me to disenfranchise 205 voters at the extent of a small number and if that's being unfair to anyone, i don't think it's a large you enough number to reflect the difference between who comes out of the recounts as the victor. so i'm just appealing to you, i've been in this position for 15 years. it's never happened before. and we've taken the ballots that were deemed sufficient, better than sufficient because met points in the voter records. and for all of you sitting here as interested participants that we count the ballots that we have and we have them separated,

those 205 voters who submitted them and filled out a paper that documented who they were. >> can i just indicate that we have not been on the record, but on the record we have ballots to canvass. >> i know this can seem gobbledygook if there's such a word. i apologize. you're listening to brenda snipes, the broward county board of supervisor, 700,000 ballots, we were told originally 600,000, be there as it may, a lot of republicans are complaining it's a rigged process that it's democratic out of there. two one democratic county and highest number of independent voters, but it does not seem to reflect what happened election night when rick scott, the governor, senator candidate

leading by 60,000 votes election night and whittled down to 14,000 largely out of votes in broward county and raised hackles among some maybe this was disproportionate to the democrats. and other counties got their votes in, dade county and palm beach county heavily democratic where the votes did come in. what the republicans have been complaining about is that there's no way to know the universe of votes coming in. this is the first time we've heard this higher figure mentioned, much higher than the 600,000 originally, the number of ballots. so we are trying to get a sense of that. joining us, the national committee chairwoman. i don't know whether anything that you heard from brenda snipes eases or adds to your concern. what do you think? >> well, i think she's incompetent at best, and i think

this is intentional at worst. i mean, here is the thing, neil. she was required by law, florida statute once the polls closed on tuesday night, to give a count of all the absentee and early votes that had come in within 30 minutes of the polls closing. she did not abide by that law. she didn't tell us how many early votes had come in. early votes stopped on november 4th in florida. she didn't give us a number. then she didn't abide by law and give updates on the count every 45 minutes once the polls closed so she's let these numbers be out there nebulous for days and days and days and the numbers keep going further and further against rick scott. how do people have confidence in the process, how do people have confidence in the vote when you have a supervisor who has been disingenuous and has not provided the totals which was required by law. that's why we went to the court. >> and 67 counts in florida, is it your understanding all 67,

minus broward, provided the total early voting counts, and sen tee ballots, early on and only prourd did not. >> all abided except for broward and palm beach, and they found another 15,000 votes and she did not abide, yesterday a court order came down saying you have to by 7:00 tonight on friday, give your vote totals. to both counts. now, broward did comply with that. palm beach still has not. >> we should argue, to know the vote totals and forget about breaking down who voted for whom. but if you don't know the vote totals you don't know the universe of what you're dealing with. >> it's a moving line. that's why it's important to know who voted early so you know where your election day voters are. when you leave it out there it leaves a lot of room for people to say you're doing unscrupulous. why r you not letting the voters or candidates know how many votes were submitted before election day? why aren't you letting us know?

why? because suddenly the numbers keep shifting and suddenly these many more voters? remember, they're in possession of ballots. they have enough ballots for everybody who comes to vote. what happens to those ballots that don't get voted? it's very concerning and here is the problem, neil, it's going to be a concerning thing for every republican right now, that it's only happening in two democrat counties. every other count, affected those by the panhandle got it done, but these two counties can't seem to get it done is it because rick scott was ahead by 55,000 and now only ahead by 14,000? it's ridiculous, every american should be concerned by this and they're breaking the law, by the way. >> and just so i understand why republicans are concerned about an automatic recount, because unless this issue is settled, i guess the fear is that it would be or could be a rigged process? >> i'm not as concerned about a recount. i ran a recount here in michigan. recounts very-- they change the total very little. what i'm more concerned is that we don't know the total ballots

and these count clerks, these count supervisors aren't giving us the total number of ballots, and that's-- >> i understand and excuse me ignoranc ignorance. if the governor is opposed to the recount, i understand his reasoning and that he's not quite sure everyone's playing by the rules here. are you afraid that it makes him look, and makes republicans look like they're trying to hide votes? >> no, we want every vote counted, but what we don't want are illegal votes being counted that diminish or dilutes the votes are voters who did it the right way and legally allowed to vote. these should be in ballot and she mixed 20 invalid votes with 205 and she don't know where they are. i mean, they have been so incompetent throughout this process, but i don't know if it's incompetence or intent. because to have the palm beach county supervisor now defy a court order when they said they're in violation of the state constitution and not give

those vote totals last night, what is going on in florida? you know, you have democrats concerning concerned about election meddling and collusion and we are, too, as republicans. but it is happening right now in florida in two of the major democrat counts and democrats are nowhere to be found. this should be something that concerns every american that vote is counted legally and that the process is transparent and fair. >> there are things going on in other states, it's not just florida where counts are tight, but in georgia, in arizona, mississippi, a runoff election that might or might not tip to the republican candidate, but what it could mean, ronna seats thought to be gained by republicans might not be. are you the worried the big news you got out of tuesday night where you increased your number in the senate doesn't materialize and left with a midterm election, democrats gained in the house and

republicans keep the status in the senate. >> number one, we had a great night with the four races we won in the senate tennessee, north dakota, missouri and indiana, plus one in the senate which is defying history and record retirements over 4 # in a very difficult year where democrats outspent our candidates two or three to one. so, i feel good where the results stand right now. even without florida and arizona in the tally. what i am concerned about is this habitual problem we continue to have with large democrat counties in big states that can't get their reports done on time and can't get the election votes counted. it's happening in arizona. it's happening in georgia and it's happening in fla na. we need to be able to administer elections in a way that we can get the votes counted and submitted. why are all the other counties able to do that and why does it always happen in broward county and florida and arizona as well. and it's a concern and why republicans are concerned and

democrats need to join this, too. because if we don't have faith in our election systems and it can be administered fairly partisanship or transparency, we will have a problem. i think that bill nelson should be speaking out. and they're violating the constitution. >> he's not, arguing that governor scott is trying to hide votes. >> if they win an election through corrupt meddling or validating invalid signatures, that's not a way to win an election and that's not good for our democracy long-term. and every, every single person should be calling their clerks, should call florida let bill nelson know. this is a time to engage and eye opening for me how we need to go forward to make sure that this doesn't happen again because we can't let broward county continue to do this. >> whatever you decide on that and how it's settled, the issue

of the ballot itself written off on by democrats and republicans across the state in some of these counties, broward included, is that it was a convoluted confusing ballot. whether that affected votes is anyone's guess, but what happened to simplification there in the state they were going to try to make things clear, that was an issue in 2000 and i've seen the ballots in some of these counties. whoa, i mean, you have to be albert einstein to figure some of these out. >> and brenda snipes, this county clerk has issues of leaving issues off ballots and duplicating ballots and sending them out. opened absentee ballots without anyone present. this is somebody who has had habitual problem. >> i'm talking about the ballot itself and they can't get their act together to get it together. >> it's a simple ballot issue, the states oversee their ballot process and secretary of states do that. everybody should be looking at this. we want it in a way that people

can understand the ballots and vote. right now, the issue is we have two county supervisors in florida, breaking the law, and hurting the process right now and hurting our democrat. >> all right. thank you very much. fair and balanced, we tried to reach out and get the other side on this including ronna's counterpart and democratic vote getters in the state of florida. no argument so far, they said nothing is rigged, it's about getting out the votement and let's look at outside in broward county, looking increasingly like a circus. update me now. >> yeah, neil, it's a little more dramatic than a circus, we're 50 yards from the where the canvassing is going on inside the broward county election offices, it started out calm this morning, in fact, i saw some trump decenters and rick scott supporters hugging a

couple of andrew gillum supporters here, saying in effect, we both want the same thing. we want for the votes that should be counted to be counted. since then, things have devolved a little bit. a guy with a megaphone, a trump supporter, conservative, obviously, who's taunting some of the gillum supporters and they're taunting back. so it's deinvolving. there is a police presence out here, not a great one, but they're here and letting people enjoy their first amendment rights of speaking. while inside, a lot of election lawyers are watching very, very closely this canvassing attempt and particularly one by the name of william sheerer, an attorney for governor scott, who is objecting vigorously and frequently to a lot of these provisional ballots. i spoke to him a little while ago outside. he can't get out of the building to talk to us out here because once you come outside you can't go back inside. he's saying we've got very, very clear people who voted twice. another case of a young girl who is in college in a different

state asked for an absentee ballot. it went to somebody else who signed it and she never received it. somebody else voted for her. lots and lots of cases like that. they're very, very concerned wondering where the votes come from alt the 11th hour. back to you. >> thank you. and they said after 2000 it wouldn't happen again, it has. more after this.

>> well, it's probably a good thing the president's half a world away from the drama unfolding. he is in france, of course, celebrating 100 years later the end of world war i the war to end all wars. john roberts is travelling with the president and joins us now. john. >> hi, neil, good evening to you from paris where the president ae 's evening is over. he was supposed to go northeast for a ceremony, but the helicopter was grounded. the president is looking forward

to tomorrow celebrating the 100th anniversary of armistice. one of the bloodiest of all time. the first thing on the pre president's agenda was a meeting with' manual macron, he said that europe needed a true european army and protect ourselves from russia, china, even the united states. before landing the president tweeting president macron of france suggested that europe build an army to protect itself from china and russia. and they put aside most of their differences not as affronted as he appeared on twitter. getting along from the standpoint of fairness and he

wants it to be fair, but right now the burden sharing has been largely on the united states and president macron understands that and simply thinks that the united states shouldn't have to run to europe's defense when it has problems in its own back yard and france doesn't help the united states when it has its own problems. and by the time the meeting was over, everything seemed back to normal and hugs and kisses around as the president and macron said goodbye along with his wife and the first lady. the president headed the first thing in the morning to the arc de triomphe. and there is music as they continue the ceremonies this weekend to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the armistice. neil. neil: your french is perfect. thank you, john roberts. >> merci.

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support in this environment, right? >> wait, wait, wait, neil. strongest recovery for whom? workers haven't seen that recovery yet. >> do you look at the same data i look. >> last year i do-- i do, neil. would you give me a chance to explain. neil: i'm not an apologist for any side. do you look at the records i do, across every major demographic group? >> i do. i do. you had one month of wage increase, one, one quarter. neil: you had two years of improving numbers, two years, not one month, two years of improving numbers. >> health care-- >> and always think you can save time by talking all over each other. that's richard trumka, i give him credit because he comes on fox and brings his point. and the issue is, whatever the union chiefs are saying about who they favor, you know, in an

election, a lot of the unions have been going to the trump rallies and showing up to support for the president and that's alarmed many union chieftains. with me deirdre bolton, charles payne and the notion that union voters or more to the point, the rock solid base of the democratic party starts increasingly turning out for republicans, how would that change the dynamics? >> oh, it's certainly a big deal and we're certainly seeing that. i'm the proud of two manual laborers, and they don't see anything coming from the democratic party. they see this president as a pro labor president. this president comes from a democratic background. as the democratic party moved much further left than when i was a young man and the republican moves to the center, a much more populous party. i think they're going to gain.

mother from the regular people. neil: it's interesting, some of the things that trumka was talking about, the president and democrats have common bonds on infrastructure, spending, the stuff you were getting into, and that might further cement these ties, this president has on the new republican party look has. >> i feel like when we go back to 2016 and hillary clinton didn't show up in michigan or wisconsin as much as she needed to and those areas went for the president, that really was a big signal about labor being divided ap not being always just going with the democrats. but more recently, i mean, the democrats have had some success, right, in pennsylvania, in wisconsin, in michigan. i actually think that's going to be really an interesting kind of part of the country, as we go forward. i'm not sure how it's going to go in the future, but what i think is interesting is that president trump did steal that, more or less, from the democrats in the last election. i don't know what that means for 2020. >> i think it was you, charles, if i'm misquoting you, please

remind me said it's not your father or certainly your grandfather's republican party and it's changing and donald trump is leading that charge. we don't know if it's going to be beneficial to the republicans or not, but it's a message that resonates about the people that richard trumka, afl-cio oversees. >> the republican party used to be seen as the party of thurston howell iii. and look how much got the money this election. i think there's a seismic shift that president trump has done. he might have stolen the votes, but lived up to his promises. the oil and gas industry, oil and gas extraction. i was look ago the numbers yesterday. july 2016 the unemployment rate 11.5%. right now it's 1.5%. those are union workers who are back at work making six-figure

incomes for their familiment if they decide not to vote for the republican party in the future, it would be nuts in my mind. as long as president trump continues to put through the sort of pro growth, move the regulations and things that have helped the families. >> wage growth, right? we saw wage growth up 3.1% and benefit who benefitted to your point the most, i hate using the word, like quote, unquote, unskilled labor, it's not unskilled, it's different. not necessarily the ph.d.'s. >> you're not going to go home and brag to your spouse you got 3% wage. >> it's the biggest overall rate in a decade. we've got to put it in perspective. >> it was a rough decade. >> but why. it was a 3.1% raise and it was really something that hadn't been experienced before. >> by the way, you'd celebrate just having a job. >> number one. neil: and getting a little more for that, but is it your sense that those dynamics hit home in

2020? >> i tell you who the president or the right does not have a shot at. we, i'm sorry, the right does not have a shot at the teachers. i grew up with them. and the people are intolerant of divergent thought and they're as stuck as the most left on the democratic side. so there are two significant large unions that even moderate republicans will never touch. neil: there's probably some truth to that. if he realigns. you saw the walks, that's not just about money, sometimes teachers are making $25,000 a year, i don't know how many places you can legitimately raise a family on-- >> what explains it, the house flipping? >> i think there have been certain issues. i think there are people, numerous reasons, right? but i think there are a lot of people who were independent or who were moderate, but honestly don't like the way that the president is stylistically, even people who approve of a lot of

the decisions he's making don't approve of the language. i think some of that is quote, unquote, cultural. >> there's a lot of truth to that. >> and as far as the economy, he's done a lot. to your point there are pretty strong underpinnings, it's style and culture. >> the economy ranked number three in importance. >> that's right. >> in part because people take it for granted. when you don't have a job, economy is number one. when you have a job you start thinking about other things. i think that the republicans didn't have a coherent message. neil: and it's more than an election. >> and health care rates to your point. health care was number one among independents and democrats and for better or worse, people think they have the better-- >> we are getting an update from the florida department of state. the communications director saying we're not planning any media availabilities. i will send updates to the press once a recount has been ordered. i don't have a specific time frame. counties have until noon to submit their unofficial results,

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>> you know, we're getting some disturbing new details on ian david long, that former marine who was apparently in the middle of the shooting in that country bar in california was posting on social media before and during the massacre. how do you prevent something like that in an environment, you have a bar, should you have an armed guard in such a place, restaurants and et cetera. and others have posed that, including the president of the united states, and john tapper on all of that. john, these are very public venues and you know them well. it's a whole other wrinkle in

this day and age to even be talking about it, but what do you think about that? >> bars are places of public gathering. a 5,000 square foot bar will hold about 300 people, no different than a synagogue or a church. it's a viable target. a whole bunch of people together in an open room. shooters, typically all of these situations tend to end by a police officer's gun or sometimes the shooter's own gun and suicide, but yet, an interesting thing that nobody talks about, if i was a bar owner in almost every county or police jurisdiction in america, i can't hire an off duty police officer to work in my bar. there's a prohibitive rule that doesn't allow off duty police officers to do uniformed detail work or extra work in a place where people drink alcohol, which means i can't bring a gun into the bar to protect people with law enforcement. that's a rule that really needs to change.

so, you can't bring armed guards into most legal bar environments, that's off limits, but what's interesting is you can have an armed guard in a sporting event where there's alcohol. neil: right. >> you can have an armed guard in other events, but won't let it happen in a bar. so you can't protect yourself. i think that's a really major issue that law enforcement has to take a hard look at. neil: i know it's certainly in the case of this shooting among the first killed was a security guard/bouncer who was not armed. >> right. neil: so it's interesting, you said that in hiring or trying to hire even, you know, a former policemen or women, you run into obstacles. >> i do. in the bars that i've owned over the years, one of the first things i do, i go to the police department, i retain an off duty police officer who's in uniform, works my door, is in radio contact with the police department, and visual deterrent like that is very powerful, neil. they're not going into an officer that has a police officer in the door.

in most jurisdictions i'm not allowed to do that because the police force rules and i think that's a really powerful matter that we need to look at. >> you know, we do have these armed agents who are on some planes, we don't know it. although you do know it and sense their presence. what would be wrong with that they wouldn't be blaring, but know that they're there. >> that's the whole point. it creates a powerful visual reason not to go in. they're not going to choose the operation with a police officer at the door, neil. they're going someplace else, but we can't do that. so, i think that's a major issue. i think the next big issue for the bar industry is perception. people think that if they put metal detectors at the front door, or a massive security presence at the front door that that actually deters customers from going there 'cause they perceive the bar is violent or unsafe. that has to change. people have to look at security as a positive measure, not a negative measure upon a

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>> all right. now, these are crowds building outside of mexico city. part of the caravan or caravans, not only participants of the caravan, but mexicans sympathetic to the cause and wanting to get to the border in tijuan tijuana, maybe christmas time. they're walking i think 25 miles or so a day. the national border counsel on this. what happens, brandon when they arrive. what's our obligation? >> it depends what they do. if they come to the ports of entry, that's a legal process where they have the right to ask for asylum. they normally don't do that. they'll normally cross the

borders illegally because if they go to the ports of entry, that is a very regulated process and the parts of entry can only take so many people per day. so, what the majority of them do is they end up crossing the border illegally there by draining resources of the border patrol and creating what we call artificial gaps for criminal cartels to cross higher valued product such as opioids, aliens or potentially aliens from special interest countries. neil: there was so much media coverage and continues to be. i almost thought the headlines on the president's policies on the caravans and tough approaches that we weren't going to allow anyone in the country. we are going to rifle through some of this, but loses something that the caravan itself masks the improvements made on just legal, you know, citizens who are coming in

better than a million plus and going through and following the rules to become citizens, getting their visa card, their green cards and eventually becoming a united states citizen at a net gain to this country of better than a million a year. and that has not been deterred. that has not slowed and has not been remotely altered. it's still robust yet you wouldn't know it from these headlines, it's disturbing, isn't it? >> no, it is. when you look at the united states, we are one of the most sympathetic-- well, we are the most sympathetic country in the entire world. we allow more immigration into-- legal immigration into our country than any other country in the world, yet, we get taken advantage of. these caravans, they're making a mockery of our laws, they're flaunting their willingness to violate our laws. >> that's exactly right. you're exactly right, but this video, this visual, it's powerful, i grant you, but no one sees this visual. this is where you have a large

class of immigrants who are becoming legal citizens and being sworn in. and do we have that video, pam? or still frame? i want to show you as you listen to this. you know it very well, brandon. but these are newly sworn in american citizens. take a look at this. >> my dear fellow americans, it is with great pride that i welcome you into the american family. we applaud your devotion to america, and we embrace the wonderful future we will have together. thank you, god bless you, and god bless america. [applause] >> i only point that out, brandon-- you know this better than i not to be an apologist for president trump and his predecessor year in and year out welcomed a million in. it's not been stopped or slowed by this president, it's picked up steam under this president

that there's a right way to do things and a legal way to do things and a wrong way to do things, but the notion that we're somehow closing up our border or being racist about it, i'm all for getting the story right. that's the accurate story. and it's not a right or left view, it's an accurate view. better than a million citizens become new, new ventures in the american dream under republican and democratic presidents alike. no slower than under this president than his predecessor. that gets zero coverage. >> and we want that, we want legal immigration. we welcome with open arms this legal process. what we don't want is we don't want the illegal immigration. we want border security. we want to be able to secure our borders. we have the right to know who is coming into the country. whether they're coming here to become citizens and good citizens of this nation or whether they're coming here to do harm to our citizens. we have that right to know and we want border security. again, legal immigration is

something that we welcome with open arms. we want it to continue and we want to see it happen and we want to stop the illegal immigration. neil: it's a very good point and i can't repeat it enough. thank you very much. the national border patrol council president. i'm showing you the numbers there and for those listening on radio here, at 1.3 million last year, 1.8 million the year before, 1 million, 1 million plus, around is million 2013. around 1 1/4 million this year and unabated pace continues from central america, better than 52,000. the year before that, 54 1/2 thousand. we are not closing off the world to the united states. it's just a legal process for this. a way to do it and a way not to do it. asylum situations are a different case on an individual by individual basis. but to say all of a sudden the statue of liberty is weeping as i read one headline or we're not recognizing our poor and huddled masses, it's a lie. it's a very, very big lie.

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to get them into the state election officials. it's certainly not going to happen in broward. and told it's iffy for palm beach county. where is the florida race going? back with nan hayward, and we've got -- madison, this is going to be a mess for a while, i think. >> yeah, i think it's a mess. i can't believe we're at this point. i think it's inefficient, it's unacceptable and i understand what you're saying, yeah, maybe seems it's intent, but i don't think we could make that jump right now. we need to make sure every single person's count is voted and no extra. >> and nan, it looks bad to assign sinister motivations to the other side, we don't know. >> here is the thing, when there is an election supervisor who is so obviously incompetent and this is not a new situation for her, unfortunately, it leaves the results of the election open

to question. how can you have invalid ballots mixed with valid ones and not know which are which? >> isn't that all magnified in a close election? >> totally and that's what a lot of people have been making the point what's going on here is that what is happening in arizona and florida and georgia is not out of the ordinary, but what is ordinary how close the race is. and the state of florida had history with this and are on the ground. >> yeah. >> and broward is always an outlier in terms of how badly it goes. a lot of it is ballot design. 3.7% of those who voted did for florida governor, but because bill nelson-- because of the senate race in the corner. the idea that-- >> that was by democrats and-- >> both parties signed off on this and they thought after 2 -- 2000, and you weren't born then.

>> and i was-- >> and i was already an aarp. but what i remember, you know, they said we've got to make these simple and make them clear. yet, to nan's point those parties wrote off on this manhattan yellow pages thick ballot that confused a lot of people and they've never learned. >> it's unfortunate. voting should be simple and counted quickly and simply. this isn't just happening in 2018. this happens in so many elections and because a lot of the elections aren't as close, people don't care and don't pay attention to it and it's something nationwide and needs to be solved quickly because in 2018 it should not be happening. >> and mail-in ballots, i understand the value there, you can't have any sort of hacking when it's you at home, but-- >> i know they can be. >> i'm not saying that, but there needs to be such a better, honest way to how to efficiently, effectively.

and like in georgia, machines are missing power codes. >> and with my voting machine on tuesday in ohio. and one thing, that happened to me, not to say conspiracy, but i could not believe. i alerted the election officials or poll workers. >> in a democrat or republican district. >> they concerned me, if this is machine is not kohl calibrated directly, what is happening. >> voting down ballot for democrats and flipping to beto to cruz and that shouldn't happen-- >> and that's electronic voting in general. >> and recounting would go much faster and easier because it's not happening in florida, right? >> in theory it's supposed to, b but-- it absolutely isn't. >> maybe florida is a microcosm

of what's happening nationally. >> it's a couple of counties in florida, going to the larger counties. >> both democratic counties and you must be proud. >> i'm proud of the candidates we ran all offer the country. and neil was kidding if you didn't hear him say that. i'm concerned that over vote counts. >> don't you think that, a candidate we thought did win and are democrats going to leave this out there with an asterisk? >> i think that some will, but people had george bush with an asterisk until in 2004 he won an overwhelming majority. >> mark elias' comments were troubling saying he was going to florida to win an election. you've got to be careful on both sides. >> if you look how the county traditionally votes there was a disproportionate district. >> we'll never know. >> and it wasn't like someone who voted democrat woke up and said, i love rick scott.

neil: we're seconds away from all of these ballots, they have to be in and formally counted and at least two counties led by broward are not going to be ready at all. the hope is that everyone gets on the same page and they can get these counted properly, but in the past doesn't look good. we'll see you monday. we've gr. so i switched to the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy. and last year, i earned $36,000 in cash back. that's right, $36,000. which i used to offer health insurance to my employees. my unlimited 2% cash back is more than just a perk, it's our healthcare. can i say it? what's in your wallet?

>> fox news alert. as noon eastern has come and gone, the deadline is here for election returns to be submitted in florida. and now it's up to florida's secretary of state to determine if a formal recount will happen. >> but floridians want a say. the days leading up to the deadline across the state with voters on both sides of the aisle going head to head outside of election facilities. leland: it's hard to know how this ends anytime soon. noon eastern here in washington, as it is in florida as well. i'm leland vittert. >> i'm gillian