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democrats will win the seat, the thones that just the other day they had lost. how did that happen exactly? thousands of new and uncounted ballots appeared in florida, mostly in democratic leaning counties and those ballots change the results sufficiently to trigger a statewide recount. the recount is underway right now. if the process so far is not inspiring confidence in the system. president trump has complained about it, as have plenty of other people, including journalists and senator marco rubio of florida. but it turns out that complaining about this is not allowed. so to restate the rules, in case you've forgotten, when a republican wins in election, it is fine to question the legitimacy of the process. immigrants have been doing that since the very day trump was elected two years ago.. that is patriotic, it's herdu duty, but when the democratic party power is at stake raising any question at all about the process, a it's wrong. nothing less than the road to dictatorship, watch. >> he's basically trying to undermined at every turn.

it's not's just florida. he weighed in on arizona. he's weighed in on other races. he's undermining the legitimacy of elections. >> where he doesn't like the results. >> where he doesn't like the results and that is a hallmark of a failing democracy, of someone moving towards an authoritarian. >> tucker: he's authoritarian screen thehe authoritarians. meanwhile, defending the results of elections that have artie been called is now the same as overturning elections. listening to incoming house speaker nancy pelosi explain how this works. >> the president has been saying that there's election fraud in florida. what do you think is happening in broward county? >> mike's parents with the president is any time he charges anybody with somebody is just rejecting what he might have done himself. >> election fraud? >> obstruction, suppression of the vote. >> tucker: suppression.

nancy pelosi did not use that word accidentally. the term is meant to evoke images of a darkero time in american history, a time when thege night riders were burning crosses, a time very few living americans remember personally but that lived in our collective memory. this kind of talk and be politically useful, that's what they do it, that's why it's a theme on the left, in case youun haven't noticed. in broward county for example ballot counting is overseen by woman called brenda snipes. snipes was previously caught illegally destroying ballots. this time she's apparently mixed invalid provisional ballots with valid ones. that sounds bad, but don't dare criticize her for the way she does her job. according to msnbc the only relevant fact about brenda snipes is the color of her skin. watch. >> here is the way they are treating brenda snipes, the longtime election supervisor there, by the way is an older black woman in the deep south. keep that in mind as you watch this video. >> lock her!

locker op! >> if you look at the person, in this case, a woman, involved, she has had a horrible history. >> tucker: so in case you're wondering what demagoguery looks like, you just saw it. but why now? why are they doing this now? democrats are acting like they've been robbed of power somehow and yet in elections just last week that all of us all, democrats gained power. they retook the house of representatives after eight years, they added several governorships. they nearly broke even in the senate. that was not enough though. they want more and they will use any means necessary to get it. in palm beach county the canvassing board disqualified about because it was passed by a noncitizen. noncitizens are not allowed to vote in federal elections. it is illegal. it also never happens in this country ever. we are told that again and again and anyone who disagrees is racist. but in this case it actually did happen. nobody disputes that. the democrats response to this

happening? attorneys for gillam and nelson said the vote should not be disqualified. they objected to the disqualification. the only thing that matters to them in the end is winning. it's easy to find yourself thinking like this if you believe politics -- to religious is not a and election contest between fellow americans who disagree on policy, it's an existential battle between good and evil. evil must be vanquished at all costs, no matter what. kristen gillibrand has reached this conclusion. senator gillibrand is not an obvious candidate for america's leading moral voice. longtime friend and defender of harvey weinstein's for example. but listen to her now preaching like it's the last sunday in lent. >> are you staying in the senate are you going to run for president? >> i can think about it because as we said earlier when president trump is been putting into this country is so disturbing, so divisive, so dark thatst i believe that i've been called to fight as hard as i

possibly can to restore that moral integrity, that moral decency. >> that sounds like a "yes." >> and thinking about it. >> tucker: moral integrity. moral decency. that's what democrats are telling you they are defending. and if you thinkte about it fora minute, that isde worrisome. people who know how deeply flawed they are tend not to overreach. they have humility. but when you're a holy warrior on a mission from god, what won't you do? political editor in chief investigator wt pt fox and tampa bay and he joins us tonight with the very latest on the story. what is the state of play as of right now? >> it's a mess. you have a growing list of blunders and gaps on both sides. bill nelson is still trailing rick scott by some 12,500 votes. it would be unprecedented that heou would catch up but they are continuing the process. i want to come back to something you said because it illustrates the problem in southeast floria and the kinds of blunders we have seen. when we say they mix provisional

ballots, the canvassing board had gone through to determine which ones they wanted to accept, which one they wanted to reject and then after that jumbled some of them together saying oops, we've got them mixed up, now w we don't know which one is west. it's an example of the kind of blunders we see not just this year but in years prior and when you combine that with broward county election manager saying they didn't know or wouldn't say how t many ballots they still have to count days after the election and now they're saying palm beach county also so they need more time, they don't see how they can complete a machine recount by thursday while some counties are already there or very close to it. you look at all ofou these thin, even people outside of floridape can say nobody can be this stupid. there must be something nefarious going on here. to which those of us who have covered florida for some length of time say have you met the election managers inoi south florida? that operation has been a calamity for years, mistakee after mistake and it takes something like three different

state wide race is being affected for it to rise to the level that it currently has and get the scrutiny that it deserves. at the samees time, this is playing out in the democratic stronghold. you know have a controversy in north i florida, in bay county,a republican stronghold where the election supervisor there decided to allow email voting because youin had victims of hurricane michael, wanted to make it as easy as they possibly could for people to vote. the problem is that was not included in the governor's executive order to loosen some of the restrictions. so democrats are looking at thil and saying if you're looking for evidence of illegal voting activity, it looked to north florida, not to southeast florida and with that you're getting this tit-for-tat enter saying, had that same courtesy been extended of email voting states wide the results could have been different. you're getting a lot of what have, could have, should have and it's coming from both sides. lawsuits are flying and this is just day two of the recount. much more to come. >> tucker: an amazing report, thank you very much for that. >> thank you.

>> tucker: catherine harris was accorded a figure of history. the secretary of state of florida during the 2000 presidential recount and she joined us tonight. j catherine harris, thanks very much for coming on tonight. >> thank you for having, me. >> tucker: for those of us who are not familiar with the intricacies of election laws, the most basicic question first, how could thousands of uncounted ballots appear after the polls closed?os >> we are a nation of laws, rule of law is the most important bedrock in our country and no one -- the most important aspect of these elected supervisors of elected,un i think we have a bac expectation that they're going to operate with courage and integrity. funny that you have to say courage when following the law. but this is a critical issue that they follow the law, so how ballots go up late, they will have to explain that because there's a chain of custody.

all those issues will come up as a result. >> tucker: having watched this very carefully. no one has watched it more carefully than you have, does that produce alarm bells in your head when you see someone show up in what appears to be a settled election with a box of ballots saying these haven'tin been counted, do you wonder what is this? >> of course you do. of course you do and all is supposed to be recorded, documents that were supposed to be updates during the course of the election and certainly afterwards that palm beach and broward have failed to perform. so what's going to happen is there are laws that must be followed. there are laws according to who is an eligible voter. so if someone is a felon in the selection their vote is not counted. if someone is an illegal alien, they are not allowed to determine florida's future or the future of our nation. their vote will not be counted. absentee ballot signature doesn't match up with the absentee ballot on record they're not allowed to count

that boat. it's the same as a bank. he wouldn't be able to cash a check. so these are all the issues they're going to have to deal with. they have to follow the rule of law and the law of the state of florida. our election laws are sufficient to handleto this, it's just a matter of people are breaking them or not. >> tucker: what's so interesting is given all the scrutiny that your state came under 18 years ago inea the recount, to see someone in recording votes in the county in southeast florida with a documented record of screwing it up in the most obvious ways, illegally destroying ballots, how can that person still be in charge of ballot counting? >> informed of the supervisor of elections in each of the 67 counties are constitutional officers. they are elected by their counties. they cannot be removed by the secretary of state. so there is a background clearly that she has. i was not involved in the case but only the governor can remove her because of those actions.

>> tucker: this is a subjective question, but you might be someone who could answer. how w politicized is the electin process in your or other states honestly? >> honestly as secretary of state when i was there you have the media, you had your different parties that are so active but the office of secretary of state was not politicized. we shut it down, republican operatives are democrats could not come in. we met with the heads of both parties initially and then we actually hired a democrat constitutional lawyer to come in and advise our attorneys in house to make sure that we were following the letter of the law. we make certain that the process was going to follow the law. that was our only safe harbor. in my encouragement or my advice to the supervisors of elections would be that they must follow the law, no matter what they do, half the people are going to be very unhappy with them but they're only safe harbor is to follow the law. >> tucker: it must give you

vertigo to watch all of this. i bet you're glad you're not involved this time around. >> it does seem like deja vu all over again. >> tucker: i can't even imagine. thank you for joining us tonight. appreciate it. another in man whose name you will recognize, he follows the history of the stuff, kendall coffey. al gore's attorney during the 2000 recount. both of them join us tonight. thank you both very much for coming on. first to you, there may be something thatis is missing in e translation here but you have what appear to be a pretty straightforward case of ineligible voting in florida for someonee who is not a u.s. citizen who voted in a federal election and theon lawyer both r the democratic candidate for governor and a democratic senator, candidate for senator, both of them objected to this, disqualifying that bo on what grounds would they do that? >> no grounds. it is a bad idea. certainly wasn't embraced by the legal teams, much less by the l candidates. thousands of volunteers

happening in a case, some of them will say things they never should have said. this was something that was immediately disowned, could never happen, but it was one nonvote in an election whether 8 million votes have been cast. pretty darn remote and insignificant in the context of things. >> tucker: i guess we will find out. do you think -- what struck me about this, i've been told many times in the show that this doesn't happen at all and i don't know the extent to which it does. does it happen a lot? should we be worried about the integrity of our elections? >> of course we should. i think this example shows that the democrats are applying a scorched-earth policy here. they reflexively think every vote should be counted whether it is legally cast, legally received, legally matches up with the signature on record or the county on record or not and that's not what our system of laws is as katherine harris just mentioned. just an example, in arizona in the election that was just concluded there were 1,470

registrations by aliens in just one county there. so those are people who signed up and said i want to vote in this election. that's one county. it absolutely happens, it happens all over the country and it is a serious issue that democrats -- most of those boats are going to be going that way. >> tucker: kendall coffey, i think every valid boat should be counted and i think we should do vl we can to makeul sure that happens. that is democracy. but what is the answer to the question where did these votes come from after the polls have closed? we think all of the votes have been counted and somebody shows up with a box and says here are new votes. shouldn't we find out why those boats weren't counted? what is that i guess is my question. s >> there should be an excellent nation, i think with the supervisors will say is they are running around all day in a very intense election trying to deal within things. come in on thes day of election by 7:00 p.m. there's a huge amount of late-breaking interest in this midterm and a lot of late arriving ballots.

should have been handled better in terms of forming the public about the status of votes, absolutely but the reality is that broward got their votes inn on time on saturday. we have a recount process created by republican legislators, rules for recountingha that are specificay drawn by republican administrations and a state supervisor of elections secretary of state that have been republican appointees for the last 20 years. and they've been paying attention to t brenda snipes and every part of this election. >> tucker: i want to ask you about that, brenda snipes, a name i have not heard before and i'm not here to attack brenda snipes, but i wonder when any question about brenda snipes handling of this is dismissed as a racial attack, i wonder maybe if that's not a diversion designed to get us not to pay attention to what brenda snipes is doing. do you think there is cause for inse this specific case? >> i am here to attack brenda snipes. she absolutely deserves to be

attackede in her behavior has been outrageous, cavalier. over court, court order. contrary to what kendall just said, they actually did try to count ballots after saturday noon deadline so they have attempted to do that. they have mixed in ballots. they have been observed filling in circles in her counting of undercount ballots as well. i think her behavior is outrageous. i'm wondering why this repeated pattern of conduct the united states apartment of justice civil rights division has not opened up an investigation into this. this is a repeated pattern of behavior there. just like you said with regard to her gender and her race being tepointed out, the same exact arguments are being used in georgia on behalf of stacy abrams. why would you attacker inin question are? she's ash woman of color. what does that have to do with it. it has zero to do with it and the democrats are really kind of undermining theirr own arguments with these silly appeals. >> tucker: these ultimately

seem like math questions. hopefully we can solve them. thank you both very much for that. we've got a fox news alert. republican martha mcsally has conceded the senate race in arizona, the one that she thought she won. the new senator from that state will be kyrsten sinema. mick sally lead on election night but a surge of late counted votes carried her to the lead. lisa boothe has been following this race since its earliest stages and joins us tonight. lisa boothe, if you could bottom line what happened in this election that martha mcsally and everyone watching thought she won but now she has conceded she's not going to be the new senator, what happened? >> the associated press has called the race. she has conceded. i think the problem largely looks like this county. represents about 60% of the state's. population. republican leaning but kyrsten sinema has actually been leading there. that's where these new votes came in from tonight that really put her overt the top, which is why the associated press ended up calling the race.

however, i would also think about the fact that martha mcsally might have a chance of trying to get elected as a senator in arizona looking at 2020 because remember senator kyle is really al placeholder for the late senator john mccain. she could potentially i that race in 2020. whoever wins that special election in 2020 within have to run again in 2022. she might be someone who could throw her name in the hat for that race. >> tucker: for sure. i just read an analysis and it was on 5:30 eight, a right-wing site. saidid between 20,002,015, every single recount statewide that changed in election result changed it in the democrats favor, every single one. that doesn't prove anything, but you've got to ask the obvious question and the obvious question in this case is martha mcsally is satisfied that this process wass fair? >> she conceded. it will be interesting to see

what articles or what surfaces this week, if there any articles -- draw any attention to anything nefarious that went on in any of these counties or particularly maricopa county. but as of right now she has conceded so i guess not enough for her to not concede. >> tucker: can i ask one more quick dumb question? we keep seeing these races where theyqu get called and all the ns organizations, ours and every other since wewe know who the winner is and then we find out oh wait, there are all of these votes have been counted. why don't secretaries of state alert the public and theca candidates and us that actually we are not really sure because we have encountered all the votes, has that occur to anybody to do that? >> that's a good point and we've also got that going on in georgiain right now because that race stillth hasn't been called. we should know more information tomorrow. tomorrow the deadline i is 5:00 p.m. for counties to certify the results and get those to the secretary of state. however, stacy abrams has two lawsuits pending.

at one trying to move the lawsuit to wednesday and she's also trying to get absentee ballots that have been thrown out counted. >> tucker:e we are on that, we will see you again. >> thank you,hi have a great night. >> tucker: hillary clinton could run for president in 2020. one of her former close advisors is saying that. mark steyn joins us after the break to tell us what that means. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ comfort. what we deliver by delivering.

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turned into the biggest scandal since lord knows when. they covered it like it was pearl harbor. if you look at facebook, the vast majority of the news items posted were fake. there's all the stories about guys over in macedonia or running these fake news sites. i inherit nothing from the democratic party. i also think i wasnk the victimf a very broad assumption i was going to win. >> tucker: we could spend the entire hour plane tape of all the various ways the election her.tolen from anything to avoid confronting the real reasons. longtime advisor to hillary clinton, mark penn, says that she may indeed try again. the third run at the white house in 2020. >> a lot of democrats think she was unfairly denied winning the last presidential race. she's a pro and she learns and clinton's never stop until they get where they want to go and i say don't count her out.

>> tucker: author and columnist mark steyn joins us tonight. we are treating this like it's crazy. i know both you and i think this is insane but why is it insane actually? she is the standard-bearer for the democratic party. it was stolen from her by the macedonian data farms. we've agreed on that for a long time. why wouldn't she be the presumptive nominee? seriously right now. >> i do think it makes a lot of sense. if the 2020 election were to be a rerun of hillary versus trump when the florida democrats decide to steal it and the broward and palm beach county will already have the 2016 ballots sitting around in the cupboards so they won't have to stay up on the running the photocopier like they are at ths moment. it does have a lot to commend it. and hillary's rationale that she lost because everybody was expecting her to win, she's likely --ik i think it was the

yogi berra joke. whatever the line was, it's liku a popular restaurant, nobody goes there. and that's basically the hillary campaign. she's convinced that that the third time will be the charm and i don't rule her out because compared to bernie and joe biden she has the bloom of youth upon her. >> tucker: what would she run on?ke what she ran a last time? vote for me or your moral? >> i think she should actually go back to where she was in the earlyasea '90s when she was the crazy left-winger who believed in universal health care. then she became the centrist center candidate. then she ran last time is basically someone breaking in the big bucks from oligarchs in various saudi princes. so basically the democratic party has slid to where she was circa 1992.

you can see why she's kind of annoyed that she doesn't get the credit for that. >> tucker:ke that is such a good point. you are member that? you were around, i was too, people thought she was really left-wing before she went full blownar corporate walmart board member apologist for big tech. if she returns to that she might have a shot, for real. >> if you remember, people don't remember this, buter her mentor was jessica mitford of the english mitford sisters who was the left-wing communist sister. so then she moved to the center because one of these democrats, then she. becomes one of these centrist democrats. meanwhile, the party has slid to the left because allll the romae is on the far left. and i do think in fairness to her, as stiff and incompetent and incapable of connecting with the voters as she is, that she's learnedro her lessons from last

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>> tucker: starting in january demo >> tucker: starting in january democrats will once again have control of the house of representatives after eight years and there's a lot of things they could do with that new power,, they might even collaborate with the president on a few things, the budding heroin epidemic for example or repairing our crumbling infrastructure report but for incoming intel committee adam schiff there was another priority, helping powerful tech companies to which he is totally bold in. president trump has been pressuring the postal service to on amazon which he says is getting unfairly world w rates. he's outraged that anyone might complain about this, my complaint that the world's richest man is exploiting the united states and ripping off taxpayers on postal rates.

he thinks that criticism is likely a crime worthy of anat investigation. that's not theth only crime that he sees. he also wants to investigate the trump administration's opposition too at&t's $85 billin takeover of time warner because cnn is owned by time warner. that's what the left-wing resistance is becoming, a platform to protecting the world's most powerful corporations. in fact, that's what it's alwayd been. defending powerful tech monopolies may be a top democratic concern but it's not the only one. democrats say they are preparing a subpoena canon that will target nearly 100 different trump-related targets from his taxed returns to jared kushner, the travel ban, the proposed ban on trans gender the military, et cetera. what are voters going to think about. formal chief counsel of democrats and the house judiciary committee, joins us tonight. julian, thanks a lot for coming on. i think we bothnk agree that the congress does have a

sinstitutional responsibility of oversight. i thinkk we probably also agreed that republicans have done a lot of foolish nonsense like this over the years. conceited. they also just bought the house. >> we agree on three things. >> tucker: so my question is, does investigating the presidents meeting with the vladimir putin in helsinki last summer, is that going to lower health insurance rate at all do you think? >> we also agree that i think democrats should look to work with republicans on a whole host of things. i think in particular the last time i was on the show we agreed that both political parties for the last couple of decades have ignored the middle class in the middle classes had an economic recession since about 1975 and really putty has forward aan meaningful agenda to address the middle class and the working class. so i completely agree with you on that and i completely agree that t both parties are guilty f not doing that. as far as investigation, i thinm we've learned something from the many investigations over the last 20 or 25 years.

benghazi, fast and furious and investigations democrats did into iraq when the democrats were in control from 2006-2010.t that is in order for an investigation to be successful it's got to be bipartisan. you've got to work with the other side and you've got to make a compelling case not just foro the other party but to the american public that you're not trying to score political points, what you're doing is the people's business, the constitutional duty, as you alluded to, to do meaningful oversight to make sure people are playing by the rules. and as far as the subpoena cano canon, on the two committees that i was a staffer for the government t oversight committee and the judiciary, got into a lot of subpoena fights. at the one thing i think a lot of people on the left don't realize and i think jerry nadler and some of the others are proper in chastening people on the left little bit is that subpoenas are exceedingly difficult to enforce. you remember fast and furious in 2011 and 2012. if there wasy a subpoena for the

justice department documents. a fight back and forth. that went on for about three years before house republicans finally gave up on it. it's a credibly difficult. the courts insist that the two branches, the legislative and executive branch exhaust all the options before they go to the court to try to enforcecu the subpoena. even then you could have an appeal. people in the executive branch can run the clock and that's all the more important and if i think the democratic investigations are going to be effective, they are going to have to appeal to the sense of kind of civic duty on the part of republicans to play a meaningful role and make the case to the public that this is not about scoring points against trump. this is not about trying to win the election in 2,020, this is about meaningful and important oversight. >> tucker: a totally fair point. if they can do that i will be impressed. julian epstein, thank you. >> i certainly am urging him to do that. >> tucker: i hope they listen. they never will but i hope they do. thank you. the french president just attacked our president for

backing something dangerous called nationalism. is this country suffering from too much nationalism or too little? what is nationalismm anyway? one ofer the world's experts on the subject joins us next. ♪

♪ >> patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism. nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism by saying our interests first, who cares about the others, we erase what a nation holds dearest. >> tucker: 's that the french president making an oblique and hard to understand and therefore incredibly french point. it was of course a criticism of donald trump. it came during the commemoration of the world were one in france. the hundred year anniversary of the armistice. president trump has himself called himself a nationalist. he said that right before the midterm election. he was vilified for that in this

country but if you take a deep breath, you have to ask yourself in an increasingly fractured america, could it be that we need more nationalism and not less? professor of political science at community college and joined us tonight. on.ks a lot for coming tell us what nationalism actually is if you could sum it up as crisply as you can, what is nationalism? >> nationalism is important because it's what links us together as a country. we are in nation state so when you are looking at the concept of nationalism is the acceptance of the american creed, the tenants of the american greed as well as help motivate us to help our country. nationalism is one of our most important concepts out there and macron is just wrong. it's as simple as that. >> tucker: the knock against nationalism is that there's something racially exclusive orx racist about it. is it inherently a racial creed? does it have anything to do with race? >> it doesn't. what i nationalism does it is te

democratic consciousness. that's anta important point that people get wrong. we havewe legitimate authority over the system is the people of the united states. prioro to nationalism royalty ws the one liter. now if the country as a whole. in my classroom i use hurricane harvey is a great example. during her view at people, citizens affected by the hurricane took their own boats, the private boats and they went and helped out their fellown' citizens. they didn't say this is the black vote and the w white boat, they didn't say this is the republican vote or the democrat boat, they were just out there to help americans and that's what o nationalism fostered. if you look at countries without nationalism, nationalism -- afghanistan,is libya, those countries where tribalism is enforced. that's why those countries have been engaged in tribal warfare for the last 3,000 years. >> tucker: it so nicely put what you just said and now that

you said it such an obvious point, why would there be such a loud caucus against nationalism, against national unity? >> i think there's two things going on, when you look at the president of france, he likes the idea of trans nationalism, trying to replace the idea of nationalism with the idea of regional nationalism. and you look at the united states, the people that say that nationalism is a bad thing orad racist think they jut aren't necessarily proud of the country that the united statesit is. they are focused on all the bad that the united states has done and they don't look at the positives andnd how the united states has actually changed the world. >> tucker: exactly. such a nice explanation, i hope you will join us again. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: it's been a tough week, it's been a tough year and when things get tough we break the glass inn case of emergency and invite on mike rowe and this time we are going all out. he is bringing his mother. b what is she doing with him on our satellite?

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♪ >> tucker: mike rowe has of course long been a champion of dignified old-fashioned labor, the kind where you get dirty, but that doesn't mean his close-minded or averse to new technologies. in fact, his new show, returning the favor is one of the biggest things on facebook. impressive. talent runs in his family. mike rowe's mother peggy has a brand-new book coming out tomorrow. it's called about my mother, true stories of a horse crazy daughter and her baseball obsessed mother. mike and peggy join us tonight and wel are grateful they are here. peggy, as you know, your son is ia folk hero on this show. beloved by our viewers -- go

>> you made it weird, tucker. you promised you wouldn't make it weird. >> you didn't tell me it was that kind of show. >> i said it was g rated. and just like that. >> tucker: i can see that he is your son. what was he like when he was younger? >> oh, god. >> you will believe it but he was very shy. >> tucker: really? >> he was.wo when somebody would come to the front door sometimes he would kitchene under the table or in into hall closet. and he was a neat freak. he didn't want to get dirty. >> tucker: is going to ask you what's the most embarrassing thing but i think you artie told us, he dove into the hall closet. how did you get a mile? >> when the people left he cameo out. >> another headline tomorrow is mike rowe's mom explains how he came out of the closet. thanks, tucker. >> tucker: [laughs] >> awesome job. >> tucker: i knew i could get it. my skill as an interviewer.

is that story in t the book? >> not in this book but it's in my next book. >> it's a pop up. >> tucker: have you read this book? >> read it? i wrote the forward to it and what makes you awesome, last time i was on your show we were talking about good news and i said the next time i'm bringing my mother and you said go ahead and you meant g it. so i'm sitting here with my mother because she has written the ultimate book of good news. she's been writing me stories for years. i started reading them on facebook. if publishers in love with them and a book popped out. and this is a book, 19 stories up next to herth mother, my nana and the two of them together, absolutely nothing in common, love each other dearly for 70 years and this book in these times in my humble estimation, and i don't want to overstate it, mom, and i don't want to gild the lily in front of you, but this is the palm our country needs, you heard it for me. >> tucker: b-a-l-m.

and i absolutely believe that. i'm sincere, this is exactly what we need and i would say all of our viewers, no matter who they voted for or what they think, no matter who they pray to, fans of yours and now of your moms. how long did it take you to rwrite this? >> i've been writing it for years actually. i have written several stories over the years and published them in newspapers and magazines and the response was so positive, people loved a feel-good story. and they are true. so i decided to write some more and put them together in a book. >> do want the true story? >> tucker: yes. >> she comes home for macy's one day and says you'll never believe what nana did. i said what happened. she said i was pushing her in the wheelchair and she saw an orioles jersey. she was crazy for the orioles. she leaps out of her wheelchair, takes off her blouse, puts on the orioles jersey.he my mother has a heart attack, says mom what you doing?

nana says nobody cares, i'm an old woman in a bra. then she knocks the manikin off, roles that had done and aisle, people start scattering, and my mom comes home and she says michael i think the time is come to write a book about your nana. >> tucker: she was not hiding in the closet when people came over. she was pretty self-confident. >> she was awesome. >> it sounds unbelievable but everywhere it was true that he just said. >> tucker: by the way, everything your family tells us, we take at face value. at the most h believable peoplee know and hope you will both come back. >> one good turn deserves another. mom picked this up today and she can't put it down, ship of fools. >> my kind of reading. >> tucker: don't read it, it will make you sad. great to see you both, thanks very much. >> be welcome and appreciated. >> tucker: a week ago nbc ridicules a republican or his war wound and then a week later

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>> tucker: just before the midterms last weekend nbc ran a not very w funny, see comedy pn which pete davidson ridiculed dan crenshaw for the way he looks. he wears an eye patch. he lost his right eye in afghanistan. so that happen. people were outraged and it was an opportunity for now congressman crenshaw to be outraged too and demand that davidson be fired, but instead something else happened. he didn't demand that. "saturday night live" apologized and he appeared on the program. >> for people that don't know, the reason you're wearing an eye patchpl right now is because you lost your eye to an ied in afghanistan during your thirdyo combat tour and i'm sorry. >> thank you, pete. i appreciate you saying that. >> are we good? >> we arere good, apology accep

accepted. [arianna ground a place] >> tucker: a political dispute where everybody stayed calm and reasonable, nobody's life was destroyed at the end and everybody came out the other side enhanced. a that's a good news story. one of the few. that's about it for us tonight. we will be back at 8:00 tomorrow night for the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and groupthink. sean hannity next appeared in >> sean: i'm not going to say you are seven seconds late because i know you have a scoreboard over there. >> tucker: i don't actually. the clock went dead. >> sean: on a personal note, i know you were on vacation last week. i am so sorry all that you and your family have had to go through. hang in there, we've all had some of this. it's really dangerous and hang in there. i feel bad for your wife, your family and kids. >> tucker: thank you. the goodd news is there are more good people in this country than bad and we've heard from a lot of them. >> sean: good show. welcome to ty