>> bill: is michelle obama one of them? yes or no? >> sandra: michelle obama? no. this piece of it i agree. >> sandra: we agree. >> bill: the problem is that we are getting along. >> sandra: we've got to work on that. thanks for joining us. we will see her tomorrow, "outnumbered" starts now. >> melissa: fox news alert, a deadline over 40 hours from now in florida. the election recounts. more lawsuits are filed. now the stakes have been raised with a judge warning that all sides need to tone down the rhetoric. good luck with that. this is "outnumbered," i melissa francis. here is fox news contributor lisa boothe, fox business network anchor dagen mcdowell, fox news analyst and cohost of "benson & harf" on fox news radio, marie harf. joining us on the couch today, republican congressman adam kinzinger of the great state of illinois. taking a bow. >> adam: that's right, taking about. >> melissa: for anything in particular? >> adam: after that meeting we

took last week in illinois, we are still here. we are coming back, ready to go again. we are still here. some of us survived. >> dagen: y'all kind of took a beating in the house. he >> adam: it could have been way worse. >> melissa: i like the attitude. >> dagen: optimism. >> melissa: the importance of the florida senate race growing now as republican martha mcsally concedes to democrat kyrsten sinema and the race for senate in arizona. the democrat victory there to guarantees that they will hold at least 47 senate seats, shrinking the size of the republican majority. this adding to the tension in florida as election officials in broward county and around the state work to complete the mandatory recount by thursday. now, democrat senator bill nelson calling on his g.o.p. challenger, governor rick scott, to recuse himself from any role in the process. >> rick scott isn't interested in making sure that every lawful vote is counted. he is using his power as

governor to try and undermine the voting process. he stood on the steps of the governor 's mansion and tried to use the florida department of law enforcement to investigate the broward elections chief. he has filed lawsuits to try and set votes are being counted, and to impound voting machines. >> melissa: governor scott dismissing nelson's criticism during an interview with martha maccallum. watch. >> it's pretty consistent for bill nelson, he's always confused. the governor is not responsible for recounts. we have a supervisor election and age county, they do the recounts. and the office. >> melissa: rick jenkins is live with the supervisor of elections office in florida with more things there >> to say the least, melissa. let me take you inside the tabulation right now.

the voting is actually -- the recounting of the votes is actually happening finally. they spent the last day and a half separating page one. they sought to do that to a batch of vote by mail. right now you are witnessing the recount of the batch of early votes. there is a little over 200,000. they are running through these machines. if you look at the top of the machine, you see envelopes with some ballots in there. those are the under and over votes that the machine is separating in anticipation of a hand manual recounts, should the second recount result proved to be under the threshold of a quarter percentage points. very significant. the deadline, of course, to finish this entire recount is thursday. officials say they believe it's going to happen. talk about the nelson-scott to back and forth, president trump just reading weighing in again moments ago, tweeting "when will bill nelson concede florida? the characters running the broward and palm beach voting

will not be able to find enough votes." the president's tweet not the only one getting some attention. we had jeb bush, former governor of florida, calling to remove the supervisor of elections, brenda simes, for her mistakes to comply with florida law. our producer here a little while ago asking supervisor snipes specifically about the governor calling for her removal. here is what she said. she says "i heard he wants me out. that's his opinion. he can't take away a person's opinion. my opinion is that we have run a good election program for our voters during my tenure." so that sort of happening with the supervisor here as she tries to get this recount done. again, all eyes on that deadline, thursday at 3:00 p.m. if they get the recount on, both lawyers do believe this will be a hand recount. we are going to get shades of the 2000 recount again when the

volunteers and lawyers and everyone else were looking very close of these ballots for their intent. melissa? >> melissa: i hope you got a lot of rest. i think you will be there for a while, griff. thank you. let's bring it out to the couch. this is what strikes me when you hear all this conversation about counting every vote. how is if i was sitting in hillsborough county, in tampa, i would say "why did we have to follow the law question required to did we turn in the ballots and they didn't? "if i were a voter, "the mail didn't get mine and time prayed my vote didn't count. why does their vote worth more than mine? it's the benefit of working outside the law. >> adam: i think we are entering another florida recoun recount. we have to make sure everybody that was illegal he counted. that's important. at the same time, when you have

a situation where you're supposed to to announce 30 minutes after the polls close how many ballots were cast, and then there's a lot of questions in past elections, people will feel disenfranchised. my biggest concern with what's going on in politics right now -- yes, its tone and all this other stuff. but it's people losing faith in the institutions of government and the thing that creates the institution of government, which is elections. if they feel that they've been disenfranchised, their vote isn't counted, or somebody gets more of an opportunity to vote than they do, it undermines that whole thing. everything we have come everything that makes our country great, is based on a contract we all have of each other that the majority -- determines what government looks like. >> melissa: there's a reason the laws are in place, you have to see how many votes they were so close after the closing of the polls. it creates an opportunity and it creates that uncertainty. right? >> marie: the judge is very clear about not following that

process peace. they should have. it creates questions. i think we need to be very cautious as we count for seats. first, there has been no evidence of voter fraud in this election. governor scott was asked about that on fox news sunday with chris wallace prehe's been asked about it on other shows, as well. he can't point to anything. there's a lot of situations and accusations, we would need to very careful. yesterday the judge said we all need to collude. there is a process under florida law to first to a machine recount, which is happening now. then if the margin is close enough to do etiquette hand recount, they're following that process. the fact that it's 2018, 18 years later, and florida still can't figure out in these counties how to do it. >> melissa: its different counties, though. >> marie: it may be incompetence and bad ballot design, but right now it does not appear to be fraud. i think it would be good if the president and people running were more careful with their

language. we don't want people to feel disenfranchised if there is not hard evidence for them too. that's what worries me. >> melissa: absolutely. but in terms of that fraud versus incompetence -- and i don't know that that is so much better, incompetence -- former governor jeb bush tweeting "there is no question that broadcaster supervisor of elections brenda snipes fair fd to comply with florida law on multiple accounts, undermining confidence in our process." she should be removed from her office following these recounts." digging, we talk about incompetence and we want to be very careful not to call it fraud. however, i wonder how someone can walk around and be so inapt and not accidentally fall down a manhole. [starts to stretch the bounds of credulity. see-through i know we said can go through it as well. years and years. under brenda snipes leadership.

and broward county. more recently, there was a court that ruled that she broke election law when she destroyed ballots after the 2016 election, 12 months after that and set of 22 months. there was a constitutional amendment of marijuana that was left off the ballots in that year. that is among the other issues. we should point out, if there are criminal penalties for official misconduct regarding misconduct at the state level in the federal level. there is real criminality. it should be looked at in the future. this has been pointed out on social port, and the wall street journal. "hanging chads, the sequel." they looked at 4,687 statewide elections between 2000 and 2015.

there were only 27 statewide recounts. only three resulted in election reversals. just three. let me just finish. democrat al franken in minnesota, and there was a race in vermont and a reason washington's gubernatorial contrast donna contest. it resulted in a change of 282 votes. if you see changes outside of that margin of just a few hundred votes, that smells bad and it doesn't just smack of ineptitude. >> lisa: a couple things, here. jeb bush's tweet, the guy who appointed brenda snipes to her position and she was related since then -- there has been a long history with her, dating back to 2004 where she failed to send out an absentee ballot to tens of thousands of people. it to marie's point -- there are really no clean hands here in the way these things are being talked about, at least for elections. you had people on the left calling for it back in 2016. you also have this narrative that some how russia is responsible for president trump

winning the election for there's no clean hands there. regarding brenda snipes, a judge did find her to be in violation of state and federal law for illegally destroying ballots while she was facing a public records lawsuit over those very ballots. that raises a lot of questions. >> marie: not this year. >> lisa: it was decided this year. it was back to 2016. but in this election alone, she has also been found to be in violation of state law for failing in regard to public records requests, failing to provide this information for rick scott's campaign. to a congressman's point, both broward county and palm beach county were supposed to account for both vote by mail and absentee ballots within 30 minutes of the polls closing, as well as 45 minute updates. neither of those things have happened. in combination with the lack of transparency, it does raise questions. is that fraud? that's up to law enforcement to figure out. >> marie: but it may be evidence -- >> lisa: that's not what i'm saying.

to ask questions is completely fair. >> dagen: you go into a tricky area when you get to a hand count, as well. harris was talking about the under vote. 25,000 more votes were cast for governor than senate. the senate in the state, and marc elias, we remember him for fusion gps for the hillary clinton campaign. he's representing one of the lawyers representing senator bill nelson. they are anxious to get to that hand recount, where you can look at those under votes like "oh, you can go through ballot by ballot by ballot. and claim an individual potentially voted for senator nelson." so that's going to be -- >> melissa: this is why you have to get it right the first place. you don't want all this everywhere. a new challenge facing the president's pick to be the acting attorney general. democrats to put pressure on matt whitaker, to recuse himself from the mueller probe. all that ahead, plus, the death toll now rising in what is the deadliest fire ever to hit

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>> melissa: fox news alert, the death toll up to at least 42 now as of last night as the devastation from the camp fire continues in northern california. it is now the most destructive and deadliest wildfire in the state's history. the death toll is expected to rise as well. here is cal fire chief on one of the hardest hit places. >> there are no words that describe what the town of paradise looks like now. it is sobering. we talked to some victims, we toured town center, we went to the hospital. it is a war zone. >> melissa: we are live in paradise, north of sacramento. claudia? >> with each update from the sheriff and coroner, this death

toll grows higher in last night it soared. the remains of 13 more victims have been recovered, and the grim search continues for more victims. in the burned-out neighborhoods here, more than one doesn't search and recovery teams are coming through the ashes. they say when they see multiple cars in a driveway it could be that those people got trapped and the remains are in the rubble. starting today, teams will be using cadaver dogs and mobile dna labs to help speed up the identification of badly-burned remains. the sheriff is also bringing in portable morgue units on loan from the military. while they were helping people escape the flames, 90 of the town's first responders lost their homes. paradise fire chief said that it was like a tornado of embers, setting homes on fire. >> it's absolutely heartbreaking to drive through paradise and see the level of destruction. my family lost their homes in the fire. my parents did.

a grandmother did. >> frustrating, too, now for the 50,000 evacuees who don't know if their loved one survived, or what's left of their homes. before evacuation orders can be lifted, the area needs to be safely secured and the power restored. we are a long way from that. this fire has grown to 125,000 acres, bigger in area than the city of colorado springs. more than 500 firefighters are working. thanks to calmer winds, those crews are holding containment lines and they are keeping the fire from advancing south and east toward the city of oroville, home to some 19,000 people. melissa? >> melissa: claudia, thank you thank you. >> dagen: fox news alert, the state of maryland filing a motion contesting president trump's appointment of acting attorney general matt whitaker. the motion asking a federal judge to install rod rosenstein

in the place of whitaker. critics claiming that whitaker's appointed violates the constitution. a judge has not ruled there yet. whitaker served as sessions' chief of staff until he was tapped. on "america's newsroom," bill hemmer spoke about this legal challenge. >> the president can only -- with the advice of the senate. the attorney general position is one of -- the question is, whether somebody was acting attorney general would have to be somebody who has been confirmed. >> is he a good choice or not for this job? >> he is a fine lawyer. if it's something that has to be settled by litigation, i would think that perhaps there are safer choices. >> dagen: former independent counsel, kenneth starr, who was also on "america's newsroom," believes that whitaker's appointment is legal. >> it's a lawful appointment. under the vacancies act, the

president has tremendously way in who he sees fit -- remember, this is the executive branch. there is only one key officer in the executive branch. >> dagen: in the meantime, "the wall street journal" is reporting that the department of justice is expected to report legal opinion. democrats say that whitaker's past criticism of robert mueller's russia probe raise questions about his objectivity. with "the wall street journal," the congressman is reporting that the doj's office of legal counsel opinion is supposed to -- an issue back in 2003, a nonconfirmed employee can be appointed as the acting director, because "acting director" is an inferior officer under the supreme court precedent. he >> adam: legally. >> dagen: again, how does the white house get this out of the way? earlier, it was said that whatever whitaker does and makes makes, decisions that he makes,

are called into question because of his legal problem. >> adam: the legality of it, i let the lawyers battle that appeared we will get some kind of resolution. it seems to me that it's okay from the legal front. if i was advising the president, i would say "let's get a nominee out there, but that person before the senate come and go through this a different way." but, let's be honest about what this is -- this is in people who all of a sudden have a massive concern about the legality of this. this is all about the mueller probe. this is people saying that the president is going to fire, he's going to disband the probe, he's going to fire everybody involved with it. and we see no indication of that. in fact, we have seen every indication that he's good to let it continue. i think it's not as much a concern of how it was done as much as it's concern for trying to keep the mueller probe out front. that's what it seems like. >> dagen: lisa, how does the white house solve this? it seems like a problem, may be a bigger problem created by the democrats. but how do you deal with it? >> lisa: i think anyone

president trump pix is going to receive criticism from the left and probably the media as well. he can't win in that regard. we will of the courts, as you said, litigate if it's constitutional or not. i will say, michael mike casey, who you heard earlier -- he wrote a column for "usa today" saying that special counsel was never me to preach never been done. calling him a probe to end as soon as possible. also, i would say if anyone has a conflict of interest here, in my apparent dominic opinion, is rod rosenstein. he wrote the memo for firing james comey. then he appointed a special counsel. he's got the conflict of interest. president trump said, honestly, just fire him. >> dagen: he also signed the last fisa warrant renewal on carter page. i think that does involve -- there's the other rod rosenstein conflict. >> melissa: that's what undermines the credibility of the lawsuit and goes to your point of talking about the legality of it. that rod rosenstein shouldn't be

appointed. and he has such a huge conflict. when that is your argument for he should be there instead -- at least as much of an appearance of conflict. >> marie: there are two separate issues prayed one, going through the courts. this lawsuit is whether it legally, under the act come he can be attorney general. that has nothing to do with the probe or recusal. they are saying that rod rosenstein is the senate have a confirmed person who should step into that position. separately, there's the question of recusal in the molar probe. because of reporting from politico today, that apartment of justice is doing a review in their ethics office of whether or not whitaker can, in fact, oversee this, whether there is grounds for recusal. this is what they did for jeff sessions, the crew people look at these kinds of things all the time. we'll see what their decision is. i agree with the congressman -- the way the white house can move past this is to nominate someone new. i think you will hear from people like susan collins, mitt romney, and incoming sender, that in order to confirm the terms nominee for this position, the attorney general

will have to say "yes, i will let the mueller probe finish." you've already heard that from susan collins and i think you will hear it --" >> lisa: >> lisa: entry in us, d the same thing. >> marie: he is the target of it. i think maybe he doesn't have as much credibility as as a newbie nominee could by saying "here's what i'm going to let it finish." that will be an important part. >> lisa: it would work for him and his administration. >> dagen: we do know that the republicans will still have a majority in the senate. why not hustle and get somebody, just name somebody who would be be -- >> adam: that's what they should do. i also think it's important to note -- again, everybody is apoplectic that this mueller probe is going to get shut down. there's been no indication of that. we hear people say all the time that it's close to being wrapped up now. the mueller probe is going to wrap up, it'll go through the conclusion, we will be able to -- >> dagen: i said all along, i think it's a trick by some democrat and liberal talking heads to goad the president into

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currently, majority leader kevin mccarthy is the favorite. but he faces a challenge from ohio conservative. across the ire of donna kyle, the democrats like their leader. current minority leader nancy pelosi and her allies are increasingly making gender a central part of her bid to become speaker of the house again. saying that the party cannot afford to remove the only woman in leadership following a historic election for women. house majority whip, steve scalise, has something to say about that. >> i think the real irony of this pink wave notion that they are advancing is that they spend millions of dollars defeating a lot of republican women. on one hand, she wants to play the gender card here. but she will spend tens of millions of dollars to defeat republican women. >> melissa: there's been an anti-pelosi movement among some democrat since last year, and they now include incoming congressman of new york. watch. >> what i can tell you -- because what i can control right now is my vote.

i am not voting for her. no ifs, aunts, or bots. under any circumstances >> melissa: do think he designed his own political death warrant there? >> adam: probably. his was going to happen. he's going to come out -- i've seen a hundred times -- he's going to say "i voted against her in conference." and she won in conference and i would have to have a solidified floor vote. i would love to see him vote against on the the floor. that's where it's going to come. it'll be interesting. >> melissa: what the republicans? >> adam: it'll be mccarthy. he's great. he has done so much for us. jim jordan can mount his thing. he's trying to fund raise out of it. if you look at it like the immigration debate we had over the summer, we had an opportunity to solve immigration with a border wall. he led the freedom a caucus charge against a really good bill. that's why we are still sitting

here with an unsolved immigration thing. he will get a handful of votes, it'll be mccarthy. >> dagen: are called more than once that she would play the gender card! in the year of the woman, you vote against me? you are antifemale! again, i thought from a thousand miles away. >> marie: nancy pelosi, as of today, does not have the votes. there are other members like max rose, abigail sandberg in virginia, who have said they won't vote for her. the challenge is that there is not one challenger that everyone will solidified around. they will probably be a fight, maybe somebody like seth moulton. other folks. i don't think ryan is going this time, he did last time around. what's of interesting -- i agree that, for my part, we need to women in leadership. particularly in the political climate. i just don't want nancy pelosi saying that. he placed into an a narrative t her that's not always fair or

flattering. she is historic, but parting of being a leader is knowing what it's time to move on. >> melissa: i want to ask you about the sprint to the finish, because in very interested in that. here's what president trump had to say about the sprint to the finish on the border wall, and what could be involved there. >> are you prepared to go with a shutdown strategy during the lame duck, since this might be your last chance? to secure that? >> not necessarily. i speak to democrats all the time. they agree that a wall is necessary. >> so no shutdown scenario? >> i can't commit to that. but it's possible. >> lisa: i think republicans have lost some leverage with democrats taking about the house. i think will be more difficult to try and move a bill in the lame duck. republicans lost some leverage there. i also think that president trump is a different kind of president. remember what happened over the immigration fight, with the schumer shut down? that whole fight, president trump stuck to his guns and said "fine, shut down

the government." and then democrats got blamed. we'll see how it plays out. regarding nancy pelosi, she saw it in the last leadership fight that nearly a third of her caucus -- the largest she has ever seen. i would point out, in 2010, alan boyd outgoing democrat said that she is the face that defeated us. remember, i was at dominic into thousand ten -- there were these ads pointing at her. she's the face of the democrat party, in the house, that could come back to haunt them in 2020. it will be interesting to see. >> marie: it didn't hurt as much as people thought it might. >> lisa: democrats were in the minority, though. it changes the she's the speaker. >> marie: but all these ads, people were saying "if you vote for the democrat, she will be the next speaker." the one she think she could doy well for my party is to keep the caucus together, putting forward a policy agenda to force the senate and the president to make decisions on things like criminal justice reform, immigration, infrastructure. she can actually do that.

>> dagen: two of the big things that will be on their plate starting in january are ratifying the canada-mexico trade deal that president trump did, and the debt ceiling. that's a little later in the year. about two months in. that's going to be a fight. mark my words -- in terms of our economy, if you have republicans and democrats actually working together, it's going to mean a lot more spending. we are now running a trillion dollar budget. you worry about longer-term interest rates going up right now? they will skyrocket if you keep spending money. >> melissa: i don't want to run out of time. we have a congressman here. i want to ask you -- first, the sprint to the finish. does anything get done here in the lame duck session? this is our last chance! we should actually do it! >> adam: i don't think they will be anything groundbreaking and exciting that gets done. i'd like to season big things done. the reality is, we have plenty on our plate that we are managing right now. we need to get the farm bill done, that's important. we need to finish the spending for the rest of there.

that's important. that will take a lot of effort. there may be a few other things. i have a hard time thinking there will be something massively ground breaking. i would be excited if there is. >> melissa: maybe that's why he lost control! oh! [laughter] >> adam: we've done some huge -- it's been the most successful couple years! >> melissa: he won! [laughter] sorry about that, my apologies. [laughter] i couldn't resist. a new study finds that north korea is maintaining more than a dozen secret sites for ballistic missiles. next, what that means for the trump administration's push to get the regime to denuclearize. after the talks last week were abruptly called off. >> the sanctions will remain in full force, until we achieve the final fully-verified due to nation of north korea ♪ managing my type 2 diabetes wasn't my top priority.

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♪ [applause] >> marie: new concerns about north korea, now, after a study finds the regime has more than a dozen secret missile operating bases where work continues on its ballistic missiles program. this, from the dc-based center for strategic international security, which cited new satellite images. the report emphasizes the hidden bases are not launch facilities. no immediately immediate commee state department, but the cult of meeting in new york between mike pompeo and north korea's leading weapons negotiated. it has yet to be rescheduled. mike pence today, and japan, the progress continues to be made that they're keeping the pressure on pyongyang. watch. >> president trump believes his relationship with chairman kim is good, and since there historic summit in singapore in june, we have made good progress of the agreement that is

reached. more work remains. as we speak, another summit is being arranged. the sanctions will remain in full force until we achieve the final, fully-verified denuclearization of north korea. >> marie: donald trump also tweeting a few minutes ago, "the story in "the new york times" concerning north korea developing missile bases is inaccurate. we fully know about the sites. nothing new, nothing out of the normal. more fake news. i will be the first to let you know things go bad." [laughter] okay. i'm not sure about the last part. congressman, you are on the foreign affairs committee. you're obviously very steeped in these issues. we have seen some of the international sanction pressure start weakening. other countries are not fully enforcing them. how are you looking at this new report? how concerned are you about what they are doing? >> adam: i'm concerned. there are two points of this. there are four points of power. in order to have any of those

work against the adversary, diplomacy, you have to have a military option that is credible. one of my concerns was back in may or june, the president seemed to be removing the military option by suspending the war games and saying that chairman kim is his best friend out. with south korea. saying that kim is his best friend. i was afraid that was letting off some of the pressure to compel north korea to action. but, look -- it's a little bit different in that, when the negotiations with iran was occurring, it was happening for years behind closed doors. we weren't kept apprised about every aspect of the change until the deal was done for that so i'd rather happen. i did like the deal, but that's how it came about. this is the equivalent of that, but is being played out in the public sphere. every time there's a setback or something moving forward, we see about it and it seems like this is a really long period of time when it's only been a few month months. i'm not to the point yet up saying "let's cut off all negotiations and get ready for the military option," but i do think this is a very concerning

thing. i do think it's probably time for the president and the secretary of state to begin to ratchet up that pressure again, militarily, economically, et cetera. >> dagen: i want to point out, really quickly -- we smile when president trump's tweets in the way that he does. but south korea and the presidential office backed up what president trump said in an earlier statement, that the u.s. and south korean military intelligence were already aware of the sites mentioned in this report cited. the analysis revealed nothing. >> adam: true, but keep in mind. the prime minister there, the president of south korea, has been very much all about "let's make make a deal with north korea." >> lisa: if it seems like a public posturing from the administration is trying to offer north korea this brighter future of what they could be. my question to you -- is that something that kim jong un or north korea is interested in? it seems like for him his interest is in power and control. so he wouldn't want those things for north korea. >> adam: i think it would be

interested if it meant the power. right now he has basically deprived all his people. they have no hope, and opportunity, no information. >> lisa: keeping them in that position? >> adam: i think it's good for keeping him in power. >> marie: melissa and dig in, you both have a business background. we talk a lot about sections of the power of sanctions to ratchet up pressure. what more could we be doing? other countries are starting to take their foot off the gas. a little bit. >> melissa: i would point out that what the president also said -- that there is no rush. he said the sanctions are on, the missiles have stopped, the rockets have stopped, and hostages have come home. it does kind of put it in perspective. really have given up nothing. we have gotten hostages, and the posture -- they are not firing off rockets all the time. you kind of sit here and say -- >> marie: but what has north korea really given up? >> melissa: hostages and firing missiles. >> marie: right, but they still have those missiles. they just aren't testing them. >> dagen: they have made some small concessions.

>> melissa: better and better. >> dagen: in terms of pulling back on the sanctions, we are in a trade fight. we are in a multi-faceted fight with china. we are trying to restart those trade negotiations. that's something that has to be on the table. we have had, obviously, last week it secretary of state mike pompeo was set to meet with his counterpart, the senior north korean official. that meeting, canceled. the plan trip to pyongyang was canceled of the last minute. you also have nikki haley, who has done great work at the united nations for the u.s., stepping aside at the end of the year. we said this sitting on this very so far, marie, that one president trump met with kim jong un, the statement is less than 500 words. there was no timeline, no road map for these negotiations for disarmament. that was going to be an issue. clearly it is right now. >> marie: leslie, congressman -- should the u.s.

reengage in negotiations, stop canceling meetings, get back at the table? >> adam: i think canceling the meetings is good. i think there needs to be a penalty for their entry and as he prayed and began words. their resistance. there has to be cost. we are just satiating him. >> marie: will definitely keep watching this. turning back to the u.s., with the dust is still settling for the midterms, some analysts say that one important democratic c may have cost the house majority. what it is, and whether it will be a cause for concern for the president in 2020. up next. ♪ higher! higher! parents aren't perfect, but then they make us kraft mac & cheese and everything's good again.

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>> melissa: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first, let's check in with harris and what's coming up on "outnumbered overtime"! you are in dallas today. i'm jealous. >> yes, i get around. thank you, melissa. i'm at the george w. bush presidential center on the campus of southern methodist university. highlighting a movement, now, to improve the lives of our military servicemen and women and their families. speaking of president bush, an attorney who was in the middle of the whole bush-gore florida recount 18 years ago will join me. on the recounts that are happening right now, in florida, deja vu all over again. plus, congressman john garamendi who represents parts of northern

california on the deadly firing to me. how's constituents are doing, and what resources they really need. we can help camino. "outnumbered overtime" come alive from dallas, texas! everything is bigger in texas, baby! >> melissa: i will stay here on the couch and watch the whole show. harris, thank you. >> lisa: president trump tout of the midterms is a tremendous success but not everybody agrees. political editor of the national journal writes "what should worry trump is the g.o.p.'s glaring slippage in the suburbs where brand-name republicans were unable to sustain the stable coalition of white-collar professionals and populist-minded trump fans that propelled so many to victory 2016." i'm going to start with you on this. you are on your reelection. pretty handily, i might add. what will you see in your state? >> adam: it was kind of unique. we had, frankly, we can govern

the running for reelection's that lots of people weren't driven to the polls on. there is a slippage of republican support in the suburbs. blue-collar areas, rural areas, are going massively toward the republican party compared to what they use to. it's almost an even swap. that's an issue. if we deny the fact that we are losing support and those suburban areas, that's a lot of seats. if you do the postmortem of the election to see or did we lose mostly, it's in those folks that used to vote republican that -- whether it's a presidents tone or something, they are uncomfortable and they aren't voting for him. >> lisa: mostly, we see this time and time again. i remember in 2009, the republicans were an endangered species. they went on to win the house, picking up 63 seats in 2010. 2012 there was a huge porous postmortem, they won the senate and the white house in 2016. should we be learning lessons from this? or people reading too much into it?

>> melissa: i think they are reading too much into it in the sense of the president put together unusual coalition of people that was unexpected. that's part of the reason why he won. he couldn't hold it together when he was on the top of the ballot shouldn't be the least bit surprising. >> lisa: marie, do you think democrats learn anything from a selection in terms of -- we saw these really progressive candidates not fare so well. do you think that changes the dynamic for who democrats pick to run in 2020? >> marie: i hope it does! what's interesting to me, for my party -- after 2016 there was a lot of angst in my party about the "death of the midwestern democrat." we lost michigan, wisconsin, ohio, pennsylvania. this cycle -- michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania. set aside ohio, but we did pretty well in the rust belt with both senate and governors at house races. when you look at the electoral college, that's one thing i took away from it. i don't think that the rust belt is lost to democrats. when it taught me is that good candidates really matter. candidates really matter.

>> dagen: you can have a local halo effect, or an antihalo effect. that hurt barbara comstock. he was lucky to win, quite wrinkly. running against the washingtonian and a new yorker helped them. >> lisa: we will talk about this more on the couch. more outnumbered and just a moment, stay tuned.

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>> melissa: thanks to congressman adam kinzinger. do you want to make a prediction for the new year? can you guys all work together? >> adam: i hope so, but they are going to focus on "20/20" pretty quickly. >> melissa: here's harris. >> harris: we are going to start off with a fox news alert on this special edition of "outnumbered overtime." live from dallas, texas, i'm harris faulkner. broadcasting live from the george w. bush presidential center on the campus of southern methodist university. a lot to show you this hour, including my behind-the-scenes access and joining me, the sister of a marine who made the ultimate sacrifice for his nation in iraq. an incredible story which launched a movement to better the lives of our military