audible. the most inspiring minds. the most compelling stories. text "listen16" to 500500 to start your free trial today. thanks for starting your friday night with us. welcome to tucker carlson. what's interesting about what you see about people talking on television, it's not that they tell us what they do or don't know, what's amazing is how they do it in unison. one will say something false, in what seems like minutes, all the others are saying it, too. the exact same thing. sometimes word-for-word. it's like they are all the e-- texting each other on commercial breaks. we could give you endless

examples of this but here's the most recent one. in the days since last week's midterm elections all the geniuses on cable have simultaneously decided that the migrant caravan marching toward the united states is a mirage. it's not real. it never has been real. it was always a fake threat created by unscrupulous right wing politicians. watch them sing that tune in perfect harm any. >> these people are a thousand plus miles away from the border. >> to further your point, if you're so concerned about invaders and very bad people, you want be on the border today instead of your second of defense. >> they have been running on a imaginary caravan. >> tucker: the president talked a lot. he couldn't stop talking about the so-called caravan headed toward the border. >> this stupid [ bleep ] caravan. it's a lie that this caravan is

a problem of that magnitude. >> so-called caravan. the imaginary caravan. that's what jeff told them to say. too bad we now have pictures. reality is the enemy of propaganda and the real on our southern border tonight is that a large number of migrants from that caravan are now masked just south of san diego and they are trying to get into this country. in the meantime, though same people are overwhelming city services in tijuana. the people are doing all of this because they actually exist. they are a physical reality no matter what they are telling you on cnn. apparently no one has alerted california senator o'harris. she believes anyone worried about illegal great lakes mu-- be a dangerous racist. that's why she is compared law enforcement to the ku klux klan. >> we would call them a domestic terrorist group. >> why would we call them a

domestic terrorist group? >> because they tried to use fear and force to change political environment. >> and what was the motivation for the use of fear and force? >> based on race and ethnicity. >> are you aware of the perception of many -- how the power and the discretion, of isis being used to enforce the laws? and do you see any parallels? >> i do not see any parallels. >> i'm talking about perception. >> i do not see a parallel. >> are you aware that there is a perception -- >> i see -- >> are you aware that there is a perception >> you put ice in the same category as the kkk. >> tucker: american citizens trying to protect their country's borders, upholding laws passed by our democratically elected congress are somehow like the kkk. it seems like an especially stupid and efficiency thing to say. it's cruel really. how would you feel if you were an ice officer or your brother was. can you imagine throwing out

that kind of islaslander. listen to senator sharrod brown of ohio, a man who advocates for unrestricted late term abortion explaining he's on jesus's team and you aren't. >> jesus said when i was hungry you fed me, when i was thirsty you gave me drink. when i was a stranger you welcomed me. what you did for those who seem less important you did for me. not the least of these. society may act like they are less important but we don't because we understand the value of people. we manned the dignity of work. we understand the values of this country, what it stands for. >> tucker: we manned the value of little people, senator brown says. really, do you? how about the millions of american workers whose wages haven't increased in decades because of mass immigration. how about the people of tijuana.

the caravan came north because they knew they would have a shot of getting into this country. they enculled this whole thing from the very first day. now it's a disaster. the mayor of tijuana says his city is buckling under the weight of migrants. many are criminals the mayor of tijuana says. violence has broken out. people have been hurt. dozens of migrants never made it to the border. they are still missing, presumably kidnapped by drug cartels. the human cost has been very high. democrats are not talking about that cost. we would like to talk about it. chuck schumer joins us. before we get to all of that share rod brown from ohio, who has been endorsed, is lecturing us on jesus. do you think sharrod brown is a little closer to jesus than, say, i am? >> well, matthew 25 applies here, don't you think? that's what he was quoting. we have people fleeing for their lives who are in desperate need

who want to come to this country and seek asylum by presenting themselves at the border and we're sending troops. we're sending troops to texas when they are coming in, in san diego. >> tucker: before you get to the scripture, can you address my question is that the new standard? do you think this is a fair standard? this is not something i introduced. this is something sharrod brown of ohio is lecturing on how he's on jesus team and we're not. is that a fair form of police discourse, is this a theocracy? >> i think we're pointing out the hypocrisy on the right, who claim they are christians but yet they ignore the teachings of christ. >> tucker: so mean who don't believe in god get to tell christians what it is to be a christian. let me ask you which politicians would you say right now on the right are invoking jesus when they talk about building a wall? what exactly are you talking

about? >> how about mike peninsula. every single day, everything he does. every time mike peninsula talks he invokes christ. every single time. >> tucker: just give us one example. tell me -- >> the first thing he said at the convention was, i'm a christian, a father, and a conservative in that order. that's what mike pence said, if he's a christian he should be practicing what jesus taught in matthew 25. >> tucker: jesus would have open borders? is that what you're saying? >> when i was hungry, did you feed me? >> tucker: i'm aware of the verse but you're comfortable with this, is what you're saying? >> i don't know that you believe it. if that's -- that's what it says, tucker. that's what mike pence pretends to acknowledge but he doesn't. >> tucker: i'm trying not to end this interview. i wonder if you know the extent

to which you play with fire introducing religious faith appropriating someone else's religious faith into a conversation about public policy. do you think that's a wise thing to do? do you think if mike pence stood up and said i'm for building a wall and quoting this scripture to justify it. i know for a fact i would say, whoa, settle down. this is a public policy question. a multiethnic, multireligious country. don't start doing that, this is not a theocracy but you're saying this is okay. >> one, i didn't mean to offend you on religious grounds. >> tucker: come on, now, i'm on jesus team and you're not. what is that? >> i hear you. i'm just pointing out that many on the right have taken christ up as their banner of how they want to govern and yet when it comes to doing something like this they ignore the teachings of christ. i do not think that religion or scripture should be the base of our governor thanks in this country. i believe the founders, when they separate church and state. >> tucker: let me ask you this.

do you think it's all -- everything is allowed. it doesn't matter, like whatever it takes to get what we want, is it okay to compare federal law enforcement officials to the kkk? as senator harris did yesterday? >> look, i watched that whole clip, tucker. frankly, she was not comparing them to the kkk. she was suggesting to the nominee that there is a perception among -- she even said probably wrongfully that there are people out there who are doing things -- too tie get it. >> how are we going to correct the perception. >> tucker: i get it. i get it. a lot of hitler's closest staff wore blue ties. i'm not calling you a nazi. now that i've raised it and link you did to the nazis, no, she's comparing federal law enforcement firms to the clan. and i just wonder like, is there a limit to what you can say in public if you're a u.s. senator before you drive the country into some kind of conflict? >> should you not compare law

enforcement people to the klan and that's not what she was doing. she was asking -- she was engaging in a conversation with somebody who was seeking to run ice on how he would change the perception amongst some people in this country, that they should fear ice. >> tucker: is there a poll on this? harris, who has lived as a rich person her entire life, how would she know this? does she have some poll that she's going to, to say isabel is like the klan. she's trying to impugn the personal integrity of people serving the country on the border. what is this, the klan? >> she's heard from constituents and groups that represent people who are fearful of ice in her state. i'm sure she's trying to correct that fear because senator harris is a very sensible person and i watched that -- >> tucker: excuses law enforcement. i think she's totally irresponsible. i want her to be responsible. she could be president. finally, is it time to concede

that the caravan is real and that they are overwhelming tijuana? the mayor says that a lot of members of the caravan are violent criminals and he's afraid of them. >> no one said it wasn't real. they said it wasn't a real threat. >> he sounds like a flat out racist. >> the president's own general acknowledge this is not a real threat to our national security. >> tucker: but the mayor of tijuana says it's a threat to him. would jesus be okay with what the mayor of tijuana has said, is he a racist? do you think he's a violent xal? >> is tijuana analogous to the united states of america? >> tucker: i'm just asking. >> it has a lot less resources than the united states of america. we have more people along the border than police officers in tijuana. >> tucker: maybe i'll see you,

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some want the u.s. to completely open its borders to the rest of the world. what would the affect be if we did that? who is coming here, what are they like and where is this all going? we're joined by the director of research at the center. no one cares about -- >> the latest census numbers indicate by immigration by 2060 will add 75 million people to the u.s. population. you would think people concerned about the environment or traffic and pollution, congestion sprawl, would think about that but those are real concerns. >> tucker: which i will admit as a kid, i mocked the liberals for having but as i get older, everyone is unhappy in a crowded place. it's dirty. does anyone on the left still say that? >> there are a few progressives out there. you may know the organization numbers. they have a lot of progressive support and they tend to focus a lot on population growth but

most mainstream people on the left don't touch with it a 10 foot pole because, in the united states, it's about 95% of population growth. long term, new immigrants and the children they have. so they don't want to touch the issue. >> what percentage? >> 95%, between now and 2060, about 95% of the increase in u.s. population will come from future immigrants and children and grandchildren. >> tucker: that's almost a complete turnover in population. that's population growth. about 75 million people. >> tucker: okay. >> most of the increase is coming from great lakes so from about 328 to 404 is about where we're headed. >> tucker: the language numbers are interesting. one in five people living in this country does not speak english at home. has it every been that high? >> it's hard to say, but it may have been that high in the past. what's even more interesting, or perhaps more troubling, is how concentrated it is. so there are all kinds of areas with census, where 95% or 85 per

of the team and 95 and 85 per of the kids in schools speak a foreign language at home. that's what's truly extra or. one wonders how assimilation can work with that level of immigration and foreign language concentration. >> so what are, broadly speaking, the education levels of the immigrants who are coming here? >> it varies. >> of course it does. >> so, you know, you're looking at a situation where 80% plus of immigrants from india come with a college degree or more, and then, for say immigrants from central america it's less than 10% come with a college degree and the same thing for immigrants. >> how does that break down? what percentage of immigrants are coming with no education versus those coming with high degrees of education. right now, somewhat over a fourth of all immigrants have less than a high school education when they come. a little over a fourth also have no more than a high school education. so a high school or less is a little over half and a little less than half is some college or even college and more so

that's the very rough breakdown. >> tucker: so the majority have high school education or less? >> right. no education beyond high school. we know from research that their use of welfare poverty is high. >> tucker: thank you very much. you just heard as millions of people, many low skill, half, the obvious question rises what does that mean for our economy? for america's working class which is already having its jobs faced out for automation. a senior fellow, author of the book, a vision for the renewal of work in america, a thoughtful look at that question. thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: there is a debate over what automation will do long term. everyone agrees it will eliminate a lot of jobs that we currently think of as real jobs. is there any scenario in the future as we perceive it now where would you want more than half of all immigrants to have a high school diploma or less? >> i think that's a concern we

have to grapple with. if we feel like we have an imbalance, too many unskilled workers relative to what the economy wants, adding more unskilled workers to that mix pushes us in the wrong direction. >> how concerned are you about that? >> i think it's a concern. it's one among many. there are a lot of things we're doing that really hurt less skilled workers, the way we approach immigration and education. we don't care about education for less skilled workers. we say college for all and if you don't complete college you fell out somewhere along the way. and all of our money goes to the folks who are actually completing college even though they are the ones who need the least help. >> tucker: if you were thinking thoughtfully, if you started with the presumption that some immigration is good, that's where i start, why wouldn't you be thoughtful about letting in more people who already have the education that you think your economy requires? >> i think that's exactly what we should do and i think, you know, most economists would look at the issue and say, if you want to benefit workers at the

bottom, if you want to benefit their wages pretty much the models say high skilled immigration is good for low skilled workers. more low skilled immigration can't be good for low skilled workers. you're just adding more competition to the market. >> tucker: i've had this debate a hundred times on this show over the past couple of years and i often hear people say the studies show that's not true. bringing in millions of poor people makes us richer. is there a study that shows that? >> i'm not aware. there are a lot of studies that show the mix of immigrant that we've had over time, which has been low skilled and high skilled, it's reflected by roughly what's in the population so that's okay. but that's the wrong question to ask. the question to ask is, which would be better given that we're going to have high skilled immigration, is it good to also have a lot of low skilled immigration or less? what would you say is the less low skilled immigration you have the better things will be for the low skilled workers who are here. >> tucker: sort of -- what would you, if you could do one thing

to help people who are struggling to reap the benefits of our economy, what would it be? >> i think conceptually we have to value work and we have to say it's not just about consumption and how much we get to consume and how cheap stuff is, we actually have to realize people having work is what's most important to them. >> tucker: wait a second. paying everybody off with three grand a month won't be the answer? >> no, it's a disaster. it's a great answer for the folks who are doing really well the funny thing is the higher up the income ladder you go the more people say, we can send them money. you go down to the bottom end of the ladder that's where you find people saying we don't want just the money, we want jobs. they understand how critical work is not to just their own satisfaction, their lives, families and communities, if we don't focus on that if we just say, we'll grow the pie, what they say, we'll just accepted everyone a piece, right? you don't have to bake your own pie, we'll just give you a slice, that's not what people want and that's not a model for

a good society. >> that used to be obvious. >> it did, until about the middle of the last century and then we flipped and said as long as consumption keeps going up, as long as everyone can have more stuff every year, we're going to call that success but that's not success. >> tucker: really thoughtful. thank you for that. >> thanks for having me. >> georgia's disputed election has finally ended, but still trying to overturn the results. we'll have the latest on that right after the break. member when christmas was magical? when the mailman delivered to the north pole? and we all had a front-row, shoulder-top seat at the parade? let's get back there. santa's wonderland at bass pro shops and now cabela's has what we've all been missing. with the arcades, rc trucks, crafts, even a picture with santa and it's all free. plus get extras for the family with a personalized christmas card package

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>> tucker: democrat stacey adams finally conceded. she had trailed kemp by a big margin since election night. she and her team of lawyers fought on. just this morning they were considering a legal challenge, that would have sought another round. but bowing, she announced she would drop her legal challenges and that effect actively ended the race and yet abrams refused to actually concede. in fact, in her remarks, which are are so orwell-like, she claims democracy failed in georgia. the senate race in florida is still dragging on. hand recounts of some ballots are continuing across the state but the democrat in the senate race, bill nelson, doesn't look

like he'll win. his path to victory is getting very narrow. we're going to miss the recount because we're going to miss having him on. what's going on? >> well, hand recount will continue until sunday, but we can tell you that bill nelson is surely doomed and he's doomed in large part because he had placed his hopes and his trust in broward county, which, as we've seen a time or two, that's like placing your trust and hope from harry lord and dumb and dumber. the irony is, bill nelson thought broward county would be dumber and less effective than it actually was, because there were some 30,000 votes that were put through machines, not once but twice, mostly democrats in broward county. they were saying these maps, broward county, here you go again but what we found out today is what election workers, when they looked at those ballots by han they discovered that the scanners didn't

register votes because most of the voters, around 98%, left that race blank. maybe these democrats didn't vote for rick scott because he's a republican. maybe they didn't vote for bill nelson because he's bill nelson. who knows. but that's the fact of the matter here. and with this, it puts bill nelson in an impossible position. there is chatter and speculation. some democrats said they couldn't see the race on the ballot because it had been tucked in the lower left and perhaps a poor ballot design by broward county. but even so, that's just tough luck for nelson. there is history for that, too. remember, tucker, i know you do, in palm beach county, when it designed the butterfly ballot in 2000 that democrats wounded up voting for pat boo cannon. i don't think they will ever forgive themselves for this. either way it doesn't matter because once all is said and done, it will be certified on tuesday. rick scott is going to washington and bill nelson is

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book "spy gate," he joins us tonight. at some point we're going to find out who will be indicted. clearly some people will be indicted. if they are crimes, collusion, treason, i'll applause them and root for the conviction but if they are for something less than that, like lying during the investigation, i and a lot of other people will think this was a reckless act. what will it do to the country if mueller does that, do you think? >> yeah, think about it, tucker. this has gone on for 18 months. think about all the lives that have been ruined. it's politics have been up ended. there is very serious talk from the left about impeachment over a crime, tucker, that no one can produce a skcintilla of evidenc. if there is evidence that surfaces of treasonable acts

against the united states government you deserve to be prosecuted. tucker, the problem is, we live in a constitutional republic. none of that evidence has been produced. as a matter of fact, collusion isn't even a crime. i don't say that as a word dance. i say that because there is evidence of russian collusion against the hillary team. that produced evidence from russian sources, and people that showed up in the trump tower meeting, that the left made such a stink about were connected to people connected to the hillary team but the left isn't interested in any of that. that's why i bring that up. >> tucker: it just seems like we've lost sight of the purported goal which is protecting the country from a foreign power and no one is really pretending this is nothing more than settling your political grudge. that doesn't seem like an american way to go about settling political differences. it seems like a totalitarian way

to do it. >> it absolutely is. think about it. let's use the f.b.i. that senior management's own word, their case was bed rocked around the political document. it's a dossier that the f.b.i. director called salacious and unverified. the number two, mccade, said they wouldn't have a case without the dossier. their words, not mine. the head of the division investigating this case, when asked about verifying the dossier, you know what he said? it's in its infancy, the verification process the lead investigator, peter strzok, when they asked about the case, he said there could be one there. there is one more. lisa page, the f.b.i. lawyer, said the congressional investigators, just months ago, not two years ago when it started, she said, it still could be literally nothing. literally nothing? we've up ended the whole country looking for this infamous russian collusion and it could be literally nothing? this is scary stuff. so you're not just throwing

around the tyrannical word lightly. there is actual backbone there. >> tucker: the last administration spied on its political enemies using our intel agencies. in violation of the law and custom and decency. the rules of politics, it's disgusting. i know everyone thinks it's fine because everyone hates trump but that's a really terrible precedent to put into place, i think. >> tucker, that's not even in dispute. if you -- >> tucker: i know it not in dispute. >> april 14, 2017 we spied not only on our intelligence community we used foreign intelligence operators. cnn wrote a piece about it. april 14, 2017, about british intel spying on people toward the obama administration on the trump team. >> tucker: if the bush administration had done that to obama, thank you very much. >> you, too. >> tucker: great to see you. the wildfires in california really are horrible.

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♪ >> tucker: well, it's the tale of leaders failing >> tucker: it's the tale of leaders failing the people they are supposed to serve. the campfire in northern california is now the deadliest wildfire in california's history. more than 60 people have been confirmed dead, more than 600 are still missing. firefighters say it will take weeks to contain the blaze. a surprise snowstorm yesterday completely paralyzed the country's largest city. thousands lost power. people spent the night in their cars.

bill de blaise was at a total loss. >> i'm frustrated, too. i'm frustrated as a new yorker who was stuck in traffic lines as so many other people were. in truth, this kind of was a perfect storm. it emerged bigger and later than anyone expected. obviously affected the whole tri-state area in a very severe way. >> tucker: okay. but it was still a snowstorm. those happen every single year. and so it raises the question, are american leaders still able to handle the basics of governing? thanks a lot for coming on. so i watched the fire in california, which no single person is responsible for. the snowstorm yesterday in new york, same thing. and then the voting debacles in broward county. and i'm thinking, keeping the roads clear, the fires quenched, the votes counted. these are the core functions of government and they can't do that.

what should i infer from that. >> we seem to have a lot of things crumbling at the same time. i thought i would tell you something personal here. you were on my show a couple of weeks ago and i had a good friend who's a verified twitter personality and a public person apologize to me yesterday. he said that he couldn't share my interview with you because you're so controversial, it would upset his friends and family and things like that. i relate this to all of this because it seems that just our ability to talk about anything, whether it's how to deal with fires and how to deal with snow or how to talk about politics or everything else, really does seem to be crumbling. look, you know me. i'm a pretty limited government guy. i don't think the government has a lot of things that it should do and it gets its hands in all sorts of things it shouldn't. but what the government should be able to do, and i say this as someone who lived in new york city most of my adult life, is the government should be able to

handle a snowstorm when it's six or eight inches. of course they should be able to deal with that. that being said, mother nature is going to do things all the time that we cannot fully prepare for. there are -- i mean, this is -- there are things that are out of humans' control. and i think part of the problem is that we think that we can control everything and we think that if only the government is funded a certain way or designed a certain way or acts a certain way, that we can remove all acts of god or control all acts of god, i guess is a better way to say it. and we simply can't. and the answer for most of the people on the left and the progressives it's like well then we just need more money and more money and more money. and it's not more money that you need. it's more preparation. it's more understanding that some strange things are going to happen and there might be a snowstorm that you didn't expect, but your team has to be ready. you're in charge and you're the guy that's got to make sure that it's ready and don't sit there and be surprised and woe is me,

i got stuck in traffic just like everybody else. >> tucker: you create, i think every person does, a hierarchy of responsibility. not all the things you want to do are equal and important. before you curb carbon emissions and raise the self-esteem of school kids, shouldn't you make sure the roads aren't crumbling and they're plowed? it seems like these guys want a global reach and are forgetting their basic duties. just ordinary, plow the roads. put out the fires. >> yeah, there's basic things that government needs to do. put out the fires, plow the roads, make sure that we're safe, make sure that people aren't being mugged in the street, and that sort of thing. the california fire is a little bit different than a random snowstorm in new york. the california fires, i mean, this thing was absolutely massive. it was statewide. it's still going on, so it's almost a little bit

uncomfortable to talk about it. i think there's 600 people missing at the moment. i lived in l.a. just coming up on six years, and if i tell you in that in los angeles in six years, i don't think i'm exaggerating when i say we've had maybe 30 days of rain in about six years. you get a little drizzle here and there, but i don't remember the last time it rained there. if you want to talk about why that is and does it have anything to do with climate change, or whether it's manmade, et cetera, that's a healthy conversation to have. but the idea we can manage and control all of this and we always know why it happened and everyone not in charge suddenly knows they would be in charge and keep more people safe. it's that sort of armchair quarterbacking that makes everybody go, politics is just pointless. so we need leaders that are a little more nuanced and a little brighter and willing to go, it's not just about money all the time. it's about how do we really understand these issues. >> tucker: and maybe there's a limit to human wisdom. thank you.

>> there absolutely is. >> tucker: there certainly is. i bump up against it every day in my own livment great to see you. president trump has endorsed a congressional effort to overhaul the country's prison system. the first step act would reduce criminal penalties and increase funding for anti-recidivism efforts. this is being supported by a wide coalition. what to think of it? we call one of the people we trust most on this question. he's a former new york police commissioner. author of the book "from jailer to jail." he has seen both sides. thanks for coming on. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: so address the concerns of people like me who think there are probably a lo of people who go to go to prison longer than they need to and it doesn't help any of us when that happens, but they're also worried about putting dangerous

people back on the street. >> i think there's two things. bad people that do bad things. they go to prison. some need to be there longer than many. and the system deals with that. but what you can't do, tucker, is you can't put people in prison and expect them to be there, learn how to steal, cheat, manipulate, con, gamble, and fight and then don't do anything for them, don't give them any programs, work ethic, discipline, life skills, and send them back home and expect they're going to be better people. at the end of the day, we have congressmen now sitting around washington in a circle jerk basically saying, b -- why is the recidivism rate going up? because you're not doing anything for the people in the system. this incentivizes good behavior, gives them programs they need to be better citizens when they go out on the street, and it reduces the recidivism because

they don't have to revert to crime and go back. not to mention, you have 2.5 million kids in the country right now without parents. that's another thing. the bill also brings parents and their kids closer together with the 500-mile rule. the bill is the best thing that's happened in criminal justice in probably two decades. and you have a couple senators out there that are opposing it. i challenge them to debate me or walk through a federal prison with me and see what's in the system for yourself instead of listening to a staff member. and i really urge them, and i would urge everybody watching, if you've been in the system or know somebody in the system and know what they've been through, call your senators and tell them get this thing done, because mitch mcconnell has the votes.

he has the votes. he said two weeks ago, if i have the votes after the election, we're going to do this and get it to the president. he has the votes. now we say, well, we may delay it until next year. i'm here to predict, if they delay it until next year, it'll never happen. they did this in '16. they were going to delay it until next year. it never happened. he has the votes now. to not do this now with the votes is an intention attempt to embarrass the president or it's some self-serving declaration by mitch mcconnell and the couple of people opposing it. i think it has to be done. we have never worked this hard to do it. i've been in washington, d.c. briefing, testifying, and speaking since 2013. you have newt gingrich, van jones, lindsey graham, cory booker, everybody under the sun is trying to get this done. they've got to do it now.

mitch mcconnell has to do it now. >> tucker: well, you're one of the -- there's so much noise about this. i wanted to talk to someone i trust. thanks very much. great to see you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: well, a christian woman in pakistan needs to leave that country immediately or she's likely to be killed. one country's reaction to her plea says a lot. that's next. the new capital one savor card. earn 4% cash back on dining and 4% on entertainment. now when you go out, you cash in. what's in your wallet?

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(burke) seen it, covered it. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ >> tucker: here's a name you may have heard >> tucker: here's a name you may have heard recently, if you have it, you should wait a christian, mother of five, a farm worker from pakistan. her saga began nine years ago, when she went to get a drink of water, and quarreled with several muslim woman who objected to drinking from the a same cup as a christian. aa mob leader descended on her, they insulted her, and accused her of insulting the prophet mohammed weighed the assault on her. afterwards, she was arrested, convicted of blasphemy and sentenced to death. two weeks ago, she got a break. they decided there was not enough evidence that she had actually blasphemed anyone, so the court vacated her convictio

conviction. her ordeal is not over. pakistan has it staged massive riots demanding she be executed. there is a bounty on her head for the lawyer who defended her has fled the country but she herself has been forbidden to leave. her family has pleaded for asylum. their pleas are not answered, obviously.sh cases like this are why the west created asylum laws in the first place. but the other kingdom is taking a pass, so far. the united kingdom has refused to shelter her despite they the fact they have accepted several other immigrants from that region. according to accounts, they say it a would cause "security concerns and unrest among sections of the community." ponder that for a second. the united kingdom gave us the right that americans take for granted, the core rights, freedom of speech, freedom of religion. all of those freedoms are now dying in britain.

in their place, remains fear, fear of offending the very people who have made iten impossible to sustain those freedoms. not surprisingly, a piece on cnn's website warns, "trim, tak. notice. if you import religious extremist, you are in danger of letting mobs we can democracy." there is another lesson to be learned here, a lesson that trump has accepted and cnn has not. the kind of religious extremists willing to behead you for apostasy should not be allowed into your country. when when we make room for him are people like him, we run outf room for the values that made us proud to live here in the first place. that story is not yet overcome by the way, it's developing, we itn to follow it and bring updates as we get them. first, y a weekend, which all of us can enjoy. we will be back monday night, 8:00 p.m., the show to the mike fetters is worn on enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and

groupthink. we hope to see you there. by the way, mike huckabee up next and for sean. he'll be interviewing the white house press secretary, who he knows well well. a great show. have a great weekend. ♪ ♪ >> mike: welcome to the special edition of "hannity": be on the midterms. hello, i'm mike huckabee, and tonight for sean. stick around because later in the show, white house press secretary sarah sanders -- i kind of know her a little bit -- she happens to be my daughter, and she'll be here for an exclusive interview on all the big issues that the white house is facing. but first, to... ♪ ew this is a fox news alert. we are ten days removed from the midterms but election chaos rages on in southern california. joining us now with the very latest from palm beach county in florida is