girl was a lot to handle my mom is coming tomorrow. pete: don't worry mom, it'll be fun. jedediah: she's amazing. pete: and it's sunday, monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, five days to thanksgiving. ed: that's counting it out like sesame street. rest that voice pete, we'll see you tomorrow. jedediah: see you tomorrow. neil: welcome everybody i'm neil cavuto you are looking live at the atlanta state capitol secretary of state brian kemp outlining his plans as the duly- recognized incoming governor of the state of georgia , after stacey abrams conceded the race yesterday. she did so doing a little bit of political kicking and screaming on that, saying that it wasn't a concession speech on her part. said there was a lot of states election and the governor-elect is no doubt addressing that right now. let's listen in. >> it will be a state that puts hard work at first no matter what their zip code or where they live. thank you and i look forward to taking your questions.

>> [indiscernible] >> look the election is over with. at as you know politics is a tough business. campaigns and the elections are about the future and we've won the election. i'm very excited about that and very excited about the future of our state and we're moving on to focus on the future. reporter: [indiscernible] >> well, like i said, we're moving forward, the elections over with , its been a long, tough process. i certainly appreciate stacey abrams tenacity, how hard she worked, the campaign she ran, she's a very tough competitor but i'm proud of what we did as well. we got more votes than any governor in georgia history and

i'm proud of that. our folks are proud of that, but now, we're going to move forward i've been running on a consistent message to put hard work in georgia first for almost two years now. i'm ready to get to work cutting taxes, focusing on healthcare, especially rural healthcare, making georgia number one for small business all the things we talked about strength ening rural georgia that's exactly what we're going to do. my message has never wavered and now, it's time to get working on the transition, put good people in place that will work with the legislature and other parties involved including our citizens to move forward. reporter: she's going to continue and file another lawsuit. what would be your message to her? >> look the campaigns over with i'm moving forward. i'm going to be the governor. we've got a very short time to transition and get ready to lead this state to build off the great work that's been done, but

quite honestly great governors before me. that is what my focus is on that's what it will be on, and we're ready to go to work. reporter: what will some of your first priorities be when you get into office? >> well exactly what i talked about. we're going to start cutting government regulations to make georgia number one for small business, i'm looking forward to working with those folks upstairs that are some of them that are here today, to cut taxes, again next year, to start solving a lot of the critical things that we have that we're dealing within our state like rural healthcare, but also, continue to work with them on the great things that they've done, and building off of that work, like fully funding public education, making sure that we have an educated workforce so that georgia remains number one in the country for business. i mean, we've done some amazing things in our state and i'm certainly proud of my record serving in the legislature and secretary of state and i want to make georgia proud of me as their governor and that's what i'll be focused on every day.

reporter: governor-elect do you believe there were issues in the election and do you believe there are ways to address those issues during the general assembly either through the budget or through legislature whether it's through equipment or anything legally? >> let me just say this because i think georgia out there needs to know how much i appreciate the people that work in elections. those county elections officials , they have done an amazing job. we had record turn out in this election and that's something to be proud of in a mid-year election. they are the ones that are on the frontlines every day taking quite honestly a lot of criticism that's unnecessary, quite honestly. if there's things that need to be fixed, there's a place to do that. it's right upstairs. during the legislative process, no one has worked harder to do that than myself, having bipartisan commissions in the past and one that i created

that's still going on now, to deal with all things elections. having public meetings, hearing from the public. you know, those people and the folks in the secretary of states office i appreciate them as well they are following the law. if people don't like the law, then we need to work as a legislative body and executive branch as governor to change those and that's part of what will be the process moving forward, as it has been in the past. reporter: with the hard fight that you fought in the primary and then in the actual election, do you think there needs to be election reform? >> well look, we reformed elections already. i mean, we did that when i first got in office. wore working on doing that again with the safety economic that i helped create the move to a new voting system, i stand ready to work with anybody that wants to change election law, but in georgia, we have those laws in place for a reason, to make sure that we have secure accessible

fair elections in our state and we have done that. you know, we've had some of the smoothest statewide elections we've ever had over the last eight and a half years and we have processes to make sure that only eligible people are casting their ballot and that our elections are not only secure but they're accessible and we talked about this many times. you know, i helped create online voter registration, working to get it passed into legislature. we have a million more people on the roles now those are things that we can be proud of and we'll continue to build off of as governor. reporter: what's your message to our viewers? >> like what? reporter: they feel like this election where it was going? >> well look, we have laws on the books that prevent elections from being stolen from anyone. this election, we had record turnout again, very proud of that. i received the most votes of

anybody that's ever run for governor in the state of georgia , and i'm proud of that, and i said earlier, you know, stacey abrams ran one heck of a campaign, and i know she could be proud of that effort as well. look it's a tough business, politics, but the fact of the matter is the election is now over and i've got to focus on governing this state and that's exactly what i'm going to do. reporter: couple more. reporter: [inaudible] >> well, that's a very good question, and i have been working in the past with the governor's office, the office of planning and budget, to deal with the new voting system and preparation that we could have that in place by 2020 i know that they have been working on that, and i stand ready to do the same as governor reporter: [inaudible]

>> well look this was a tough election. i'm proud to have won. i'm proud to have gotten the most votes ever from someone that ran for governor in our state. i've dealt with the same type situation when i first ran for the legislature, won a very very close race and i'm going to do exactly what i did then. i'm going to get into office and i'm going to do what i told people i would do and give them a good reason to vote for me in 2022. reporter: do you have any advice moving forward? >> i have spoken with governor diehl, just not in the last 24 hours, [laughter] but he has given me a lot of advice over the years as has former governor purdue. i think everyone knows how highly i think of those two gentlemen and quite honestly, a lot of other governors that have served this state, and i'll certainly look forward to working with all of them and taking advice from them, so i

can continue in their footsteps of moving our state in the right direction, and i'll be seeing governor diehl tomorrow. reporter: [inaudible] >> i have not. thank you very much. >> [applause] neil: all right that is georgia 's official governor- elect brian kemp reminding folks it is done, it is over he has a state to lead and very little time to get everything in order to do that before his inauguration. this now 11 days after the election that was considered very very close, closer than any thought, but had a lot of legal battles back and forth but in the end, very complementary of his challenger stacey abrams even though last night, she was stressing in conceding the race that this wasn't a concession speech. listen from last night. >> to watch an elected official who claims to represent the people in the state baldly pin his hopes for election on the suppression of the people's democratic right to vote has been truly appalling, so let's be clear.

this is not a speech of concession. neil: all right, so the legal challenges continue. we should stress that stacey abrams is really focusing on what she had been calling voter disenfranchisement, large urban african american areas that might have prevented 50,000 or so largely african americans, from getting a chance to vote at all. even if you assume that were the case though and all of those votes would have gone to her, it still would not have made up the gap that was about 55,000 when all was said and done, in the electoral counts that we did have. the president though was quite complementary of stacey abrams saying in a tweet, congratulations to by about kemp on becoming the new governor of georgia and stacey abrams worked hard and she will have a terrific political future, brian was unrelenting and will become a great governor for the truly wonderful people of georgia, so the issue there in the peach state is resolved and donald

they move on, but not so, the sore feelings and the legal battles that i guess now are going to continue. to another state, the sunshine state, and the battle that will not end at all we'll go to griff jenkins live in broward county, florida with the latest on a handheld recount that could linger for a few days. griff? griff: hey, neil the manual recount in the senate race has ended and so too have senator bill nelson's chances of a political comeback. let me take you inside the broward elections office you see here they're counting and tabulating some other races, the agriculture secretary but here the story. broward was nelson's best chance of flipping this race. we're told in the beginning by nelson's attorneys there are 25,000 votes here not counted that was not the case. yesterday they counted 31,000 over and under votes, of which only 447 were over votes, though could have gone nelson's way we'll find out the total tally but at the end of the day, the math just isn't here for nelson. the really only question that

remains is whether or not the supervisor of elections here, dr. brenda snipes, will continue to keep her job, a lot of scrutiny on her and the way she's handled this race and some in the past. i caught up with her yesterday. here is what she had to say. >> things are going as planned. we have all these people here and they are willing to stay until we get it all done. griff: are you pleased you got this sorted early? >> sure, yes, absolutely. griff: so again, senator nelson started his career in 1972 about two hours north of near, neil in brevard county but it looks, by all accounts, it's going to end here in broward, the best shot for blue votes, that just don't exist here. he's going to get less than 500 of that here, perhaps later today we'll get the results, certainly by tomorrows 12-noon deadline for official results to be reported to tallahassee. neil? neil: griff thank you very much. there have been reports circulating as well in a number of papers that the senator was going to be conceding some time this weekend.

there's no way to ascertain that to griff's point until we have the official tabulation, and they could come this weekend they're moving rapidly on this, but the state certifies all of this the state elections on november 20. let's get the read from attorney brian ratella, not affiliated with the florida candidates he did advise the trump campaign on healthcare issues back in 2016. brian, good to have you. what do they look for in the hand recount the under vote versus the over vote what are they going through here? >> good morning, neil. so look, we're in florida and what they're looking for in over votes and under votes. over voights they're looking for situations where somebody wrote in bill nelson for senator, and they checked on the box or circled in their box, bill nelson for senator. under votes, they pes relooking well okay they voted for andrew gillum for governor, voted everywhere else but left the senator out so those are the two

major tranches that you're looking at. but let me tell you something, neil it's a football saturday right? florida screwed all of this up from my legal opinion and there's so many lawyers down here it's like a game of thrones of lawyers in florida, but let me tell you, on a football saturday, what do we not do when we're looking for first downs? we don't bring the chains out when your two and a half three yards away got to be within like six inches? that's what florida is doing because of what we screwed up all the way back in 2000. our florida election reform act of 2001 sets this manual recount at a half a percent, no problem there. we saw the manuals go a couple days ago, they actually looked pretty accurate. the hand recount is at a quarter percent. well a quarter percent is like 12,000 votes. in the history of the united states, how many elections have been overturned when they went back to count votes, when you're looking at that margin? and let's reremember in 2000 it was a 537 vote difference here in florida between future

president george w. bush and former vice president al gore. we got to change our law, number one, and take this hand count threshold down. otherwise i hate to say this to the rest of the country, we're going to be front and enter is erin 2020, 2022 and 2024 probably again. neil: that's probably why the judge was arguing all of these legal challenges on both sides florida is looking like a laugh ing stock to the world. having said that, brian, i was curious as well about the so-called absentee and other ballots where there was signature issues and they have to verify the signatures, but even allowing for the back and forth on that, if senator nelson were to get all of those 4,000- plus votes, it wouldn't close the gap, so is it your legal sense that the votes just are not there for him? >> games over. senator nelson needs to have a reality show or intervention, you know that show? senator nelson needs an intervention.

he's done, and in living here in florida i've heard some guests on other fox programs and of course yours, neil talking about senator nelson here in florida. obviously i'm a conservative. i'm going to tell you something there's not a lot of accomplishments with senator nelson just not a lot to talk about. now he's had a long career here. i think he should look into something. i mean, my goodness, of all of the presidents we have he's kind of robotic he could be the front guest show host for that. neil: let's not be flippant about it i'm interested in your views of what's going on at the polls and legality of them not your personal political opinions, but thank you very much for stopping by, brian. all right let's get a sense of this, again is the legal back and forth on this and the bottom line here there is a procedure to go through and the balance back and forth on this really depends on what ballots appear to be screwed up and what ballots appear to be legitimate, what ballots recognize intent, and there is this battle back and fourth, as to what could glean from what a voter might have left out if he or she left

a particular position open. you've heard a great deal, particularly in broward county, where the senate contest, or the senate candidates were not delineated, were not voted on but the gubernatorial candidates , august commissioners they were, so they're trying to sort that out again a long way from being resolved but they are going through this at least by florida terms rapidly. let's get the read from florida new york congresswoman democratic strategist michelle richie, and nan, looking at all of this, we can go back and fourth about who screwed up what and goes back to 2000. i just wonder how florida found itself in this. i mean, again. the same issues, again. >> you know, neil it's like a really bad version of groundhog day. apparently after each botched election and brenda snipes has a long history, destroying ballots of mishandling, you know the chain of custody issues all kinds of things. neil: it's not that she's personally destroying ballots.

and others have looked at whether that they have to deal with a new way. you've seen though from what i could see, michelle, to be a way for the state as a whole, to deal with these issues, because each county had issues that it shouldn't have had because that was a big criticism of 2000 everyone is going to be on the same page, now you can't use the exact same ballot for local races and local towns, i understand that, but when it came to some of the bigger issues like the senate race, the gubernatorial race, the agriculture commissioner race they should have been on the same page and they weren't. >> i find it amazing that its been 18 years and florida still has found a way to be the biggest screw up when it comes to our elections. i mean, the fact that you had i believe that the senatorial race was at the bottom left corner of the ballot. this is one of the most important races, so i'm wondering what genius designed this ballot. neil: but both parties approved those ballots. >> i know. exactly, so again, what genius

looked at this and says this is okay? i would have looked at this had i worked for the senator and said oh, no. you've got to move him up that's not going to work. people, there's so much information on these ballots even when i voted here in new york there's so much information on these ballots and two sides and it unfolds it's like a pamphlet, then you feel like you have to read and i think that if we have these very important races, if we want to ensure that our electoral process works, we have to make sure that people that the eye is attracted to what we really need them to focus on and that's not to minimize the importance of the other races, but this was huge and this was a huge loss for the voters in florida. neil: bottom line, the voters in florida, let's hope it changes, cat, if elected ron desantis their give nor, will be over andrew gillum and it looks, it looks that rick scott will be going to washington to replace senator nelson, and i'm wondering if because of the closeness of both races, if

there's a poll on this and is that right or fair? >> is what right or fair? neil: just that we're always going to question the winner. >> yeah, i think so and florida has been close all the time. that's what happens it's a swing state which is why florida should be prepared that maybe it's going to be kind of close and maybe there might have to be a recount. they have a bunch of overheated old voting machines that can't handle these recounts, you need to be prepared for a situation like this. if there's problems in another state it's not that big of a deal as big of a deal but florida is a state where we're always looking what's going to happen in florida it's a swing state anything could happen it's going to be close . this isn't like this came out of nowhere and they couldn't anticipate it. its happened before and do you know what i also think it's going to happen again in 2020. unfortunately i don't think they solve these problems and we'll deal with this again in 2020. think of just the cost to the taxpayers. i mean, it is dreadful dis

service and apparently the governor has the power to remove the supervisor elections, we know the governor bush replaced brenda nine's predecessor with her, but not the power to appoint someone, or to keep that person i guess from performing badly, because the voters of broward county get to elect their supervisor, and they've elected brenda snipes over and over again. neil: michelle? >> i just think florida has to get it together i'm tired of it and i was a reporter in west palm beach, florida and i remember being down there during one of the elections and you wonder like am i going to be at work for 20 hours as they do another recount? neil: well they're magnified in closed elections right? >> it is and i just think that at some point like i said its been 18 years soon it'll be 20 years and if we have this problem in 2020 then it needs to be different. neil: all right we'll show you that's georgiansing on right now in florida in broward where it's

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problems with then and then bernie sanders whose leading the stop walmart act movement who wants to say they can't buyback stock unless they pay all their workers at least $15 an hour and you have an idea there's a trend to this fox news contributors, jonas max ferris, and the wall street journal, john bussley. to you on this sort of domino sort of railing after a lot of key financial interest, and the boomerang effect, what do you think? >> i'm not too worried about waters when her biggest threat is i'm just going to be able to slow down things. she can't actually pass laws so certainly being having to be brought in in front of the committee that is certainly a cost but i don't see a huge amount of power. we can see the financials hit for a day or two but they tend to bounce back really quickly and we don't see any big changes to the bottom line so when looking at the financials. neil: so along the big banks or even the community banks she

was very concerned about easing up on regulations, i shouldn't worry or i should a little bit? >> well your lawyer should worry. they're going to make a ton of money just and be paying a lot more but in general your bottom line we don't see any big impact because we never brought in the deregulation into expected earnings changes so far yet. we're still expecting them to make a little below the broader market, so it may take a little longer, but we're not expecting meaningful impact. neil: what do you think john? >> well i buy this as well because the rulemaking authority has been passed down to the agency so sec is in the process of passing rules, she can't roll that back but there's a lot she can do and a lot of it is signaling forward so maybe now in the next year or so it's going to be pretty much the process that we're see seeing unfold but if she's signaling that she wants to rollback

regulation over the long term when democrats get the presidency indiana 2020 or the senate if she's signaling to the market that you might begin to see other behavior in the stock market, but in the meantime in the short-term, this is pretty much status quo is kind of where it is. she can create a lot of sort of noise in the congress by holding hearings, and questioning is the consumer production agency really protecting consumers, but there's not a lot she can do with the law right now. neil: you know i thought the movement of the week was bill pa scarell in new jersey saying before we go on to china and whether you get a deal with them let's look at this canadian impact on us and what we have with the mexicans and i don't like it and i agree with both of these fine guests point about there's very little democratic house is going to be able to do but since a lot of deals pass

through there particularly these , there they can do some damage or delay or both. yeah, i would disagree a little bit with the pap panel. first of all a lot of the plans trump had are slowed if not stopped so that's not necessarily a positive. as far as business as usual, i think you said maxine waters said she's going after deutsche bank to see what deals they've done with trump and the russians that doesn't seem like if i was a shareholder in deutsche bank i'd be concerned about that specifically neil this goes back -- neil: donald trump's bank as well? >> twenty years ago when we did the bush gore election neil, we talked about the stocks how they moved before the election if you'll recall, i still do them i'm very young, before this election -- neil: that was the first time i had you on here and you were 12 i believe. i believe and the stocks were backing bush, were doing better before the election and bush went well the bank stocks before this election have not been doing well compared to the s&p 500 so somebody was, who bets a lot of money was this was not good for banks what's happening.

neil: they could have been reading rates. >> there's plenty of other stuff that goes on, the yield curve flatten out in fact you could make the same case that natural resource stocks have not gone up since trump at all is taking away the regulations that obama put in the natural resources but i still think it's a bad environment for banks. >> i would just say from an investor perspective there's a lot more than what bank stocks do than just regulation and regulation is something that really only effects once its taken effect. wall street doesn't put a lot of value on to or changing the valuation of the stock until it's actually infect so the flattening yield curve is what's been holding down financial stocks. neil: which is why the gap between shorter or long term rates and when it gets to be darn near even? >> then it's like why do i lend money for a long time. neil: it's not as if the house can't do some changes of its own , the democratic majority. the democrats want to have just a simple majority to push the tax increase on the wealthy, for example. now that wouldn't go much further than for example, in the senate or certainly get the

blessing of the president, but it could change the way the house moves. what do you think? >> so jonas is right. neil: such a nasty thing to say. >> it's not going to be business as usual, because what are the unknown consequences of actions by the house investigat ing deutsche bank for example,, or any number of things, including on something like trade. yes, there's fast-track is kind of limits the power right now of the congress to effect the trade deals that the president is pushing but they could always pullback from that and say you didn't consult us enough and that's required. neil: and they have to write-off on it. so you didn't consult us enough, we'll reopen this on the other hand are they going to want to give the president some on trade because frankly, the democrats and the president on trade are in many areas aligned. neil: more aligned than the president republicans? >> than the previous republican s.

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neil: well migrants are facing a backlash they didn't anticipate in tijuana as that caravan reaches the border, for mexicans william la jeunesse is in tijuana mexico, william? reporter: well neil this is the main migrant shelter it's closed right now to the media but i'm going to give you a look inside as we move here. you mentioned in the intro there were some incidents last night, two rock throwing incidents one here at the shelter and another at the beach where the mexicans and migrants traded pelting each other. also, police made seven arrests two for fighting, three for pot, two for drugs, and the cbp commissioner was nearly hit by a rock out by the beach and they're now 2,600 caravan migrants here expecting another

3,800 they could be here from six months to 18 months according to state officials. the mayor says it's a human tsunami he wants them to leave and as for the migrants reality is setting in. they got here on blind faith and the belief that if they claimed asylum they would get into the u.s. and get released and now they're learning that's no longer the case. >> he doesn't believe any longer about the political asylum, they were light when they came down here and now they happen to realize that the people who already apply they're getting returned back to their countries. reporter: now for president trump, this is a line in the sand. tijuana is a test of this policy the ability to deter future central american migrants, and that began with a surge in 2014. president trump: they have such fear and such problems and they hate their country, why do we see all of the flags being

waived, for guatemala, honduras, el salvador. this has nothing can do with asylum. this has to do with getting into our country illegally. reporter: so if a person arrived here and claimed asylum today, neil it would be at least a five -week wait so people are settling in for the long term. the state of baja asked for $4 million from the federal government to try to care for these people giving them shelter but there is tension, definitely , between the locals, and the migrants, and the locals of course don't want them to stay here back to you. neil: william thank you very very much. we've got u.s. customs and border protection director of field operations pete flora is back with us thank you for taking the time. >> good morning. neil: well it's interesting that the altercations are involving those migrants with mexican authorities particularly tijuana residents saying they are overwhelmed by this army and it's not even the army that could be into the thousands, within the next few weeks and months. hard to say, but obviously, they want to get more help the

tijuana mayor talking about $4 million in extra aid to help them deal with this. what do you think is going on? so i think from the very beginning we've noticed this caravan to be different from other caravans and the violence enforced and the disruption of what's going on down there, we have 3,000 sitting in tijuana right now another thousand plus sitting in mexico and i think the community in mexico is in particular tijuana is worried about the actions being taken by the caravan members, and then what that action then translates to in regards to what we're prepared to do on our borders in between the ports and at the port to ensure that the safety of our border and not be over run by any masses coming at us. neil: you know much has been said, maybe help me with this about what constitutes getting asylum status if your life is threatened it's one thing but if you are escaping poverty, that's

another matter and not the definition of seeking asylum status. now, for many of the honduran refugees coming in they're tray ing to say we're leaving gang violence, that is tearing our country apart and threatening our lives. does that constitute getting asylum status? >> it does not. so what we're seeing here is mostly migrants that are coming as economic migrants coming through here, but what's interesting about this group, even though we have migrants arriving in the mexicali and tijuana areas none of them have applied for asylum on arrival here so they are here in these shelter, some of them don't want to go to these shelters and mexican authorities are having a difficult time controlling and getting the individuals into shelters in order for them to a play for asylum but they are refusing to do so. neil: so what do we do? in that event as more and more come in, i know the mexicans have offered and i get numbers all the time you might know

these better than i do, up to 2,000 of the migrants citizenship in mexico and many have bypassed that seeking instead citizenship in the united states, or asylum status in the united states. how do we respond to that if we don't, will mexico just offered you citizenship, you've declined what's our response? >> so mexico offered refugee status asylum status, they've offered them employment they continue to offer them even as they sit in tijuana many not taking them up on that offer. as we know from previous experience, migrants that come through the northern triangles of central america very few of them will be accepted for the asylum status or so very few of them will get that status. neil: pete thank you very very much. i always appreciate the clarifications. >> thank you. neil: have a good weekend. in the meantime, republican

senator jonie ernst has thoughts on what's going on in florida and obviously republicans are looking for her guidance and addressing a twin issue. suburban women voters how about women voters, period, the crucial link the party has, after this.

neil: all right, the counting goes on in broward county and by the way broward county election supervisor brenda snipes under fire again as we await the results of that hand recount, jo nie ernst the vice chair of the senate republican conference has a strong message for that embattled official. >> you need to have people of integrity that are running elections, and so if problems haven't been corrected, that responsibility falls directly on that commissioner of elections, and certainly if we see that there are problems, then either the problems need to be corrected or the person in charge of those elections needs

to go. neil: any advice for senator nelson? >> i would sarsenet nelson, leave a great legacy and leave a positive reflection of your time in the united states senate, it's time to say goodbye and thank you to the great folks of florida. neil: senator it's interesting how the mid-terms are sort of being recalibrated and rethought more than a week after the fact. it is possible when all is said and done democrats could pick-up about maybe as many as 38 seats. does that constitute a blue wave to you? >> that is not a blue wave. that is a blue trickle at most, and if you look back at presidents clinton and obama during their mid-term elections, they lost far more states than president has. he is much closer to president reagan in states that were lost in the house, so no, it is not a blue wave and the fact that we

are picking up seats in the united states senate speak very highly, not only of our senate members and the quality candidates that we put forward but also of the trump adminitration and understanding that the policies we have in place are working for the american people. neil: do you know what's so weird i know you use the reagan analogy, and you're right, ronald regan lost more seats in the depths of the recession, i think people on the left and ride would readily agree the economy is substantially more than one of the dramatic recoveries we've seen in history and yet not a tangible benefit in the house to the degree, you would think, what do you think limited republican gain? >> well i do think that our messaging is very important and we shouldn't just talk at the voters, we shouldn't just talk at our constituents we need to connect with them and understand what their concerns and their issues are and then how do we

reflect our public policy based on their concerns and do it in a conservative manner. we need to message that, and we need to make sure that that connection exists, and that's why it's going to be really important to message our priorities coming up for 2020. neil: maybe just your leadership position will change the approach, but the suburban women are a problem for republicans and it was a problem again in the mid-terms especially a lot of the key states where seats in the house side flip. does it concern you? >> well it does concern me but again, the policies that we're putting in place that will help suburban women we need to make sure we're communicating those clearly and i don't feel that we did that adequately in this last election cycle. my home state of iowa for example, we did lose two republican congressional seats we saw those flip and we attribute that considerably to those suburban women, so when it

comes to healthcare and the actual advances that we've made whether it is working on pharmaceutical costs, whether it is doubling the child tax credit , whatever that might be, we need to make sure that women know about those initiatives, know that we are working for them, and really, making sure that we are hearing what their concerns are. they want to know that they have been heard and i feel if they have been heard and we're acting on that, then we will do very well in 2020. neil: senator your state no stranger to the pressure that's building on the trade front and what exists between ourselves and the chinese there was talked to that the president is ready to at least put in motion something that will indicate more constructive talks when we meets with chinese leader ping next week if there is no former construct of a deal, doesn't have to be a deal i have one wall street probe telling me

all bets are off for the market and our economy and this thing could dragon a year or more. what do you think? >> well i think we do need to have a very carefully constructed outline of what we would like to see and accomplish moving forward with the chinese and i am very glad that the president will be meeting with president ping, and moving forward we need them to move forward. now my folks back home, my farmers, ranchers, manufactures, they all understand why the president is doing what he's doing but of course, i had one farmer, he eloquently stated it. i understand why the president is doing it, i just don't understand why previous presidents didn't do it sooner. neil: all right that was jonie e rnst, in the leadership of the senator from iowa, meantime she was mentioning president trump, he is on his way to fire-ravaged california, 74 known dead right now hundreds still missing we'll have more after this. you've had quite the career. i like working. what if my retirement plan is i don't want to retire?

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neil: all right, the president is en route to california where he's going to meet with those fighting the deadly fires, the wildfires, and the victims of those fires, family and related, jonathan hunt has the latest. jonathan? reporter: neil, good morning to you. the president is due to land in northern california about two hours from now. his first stop will obviously be the deadly campfire. the worst of the fires that we have seen ravaged so much of california, recently. if history is our guide, take an aerial tour to assess the damage and then meet with and thank first responders, meet with also some of the families who have lost everything, and who are now just living in makeshift camps up there, just trying to get by.

it is a desperate situation up north and the president is expected to spend a few hours up there. then, we're told, although not confirmed yet, that he's likely to head here, neil, to southern california where the woolsey fire has done so much damage. we don't know his exact movement down here, but he will presumably take a look at damage like this. this is in the malibu, the city where hundreds of homes were lost, neil, and so many families are going to come back when they are eventually let back in here, to find that there is pretty much nothing left of their lives , so it is going to be a big day for the president. it's an emotional day when you see this kind of destruction up close and here obviously to try to offer help and support, to so many people who have lost so much, neil. neil: just in credible, jonathan thank you very much. they know it firsthand, chico,

california, shawn morgan, very good to have you back how are things looking there? >> good morning, neil, well it's a desperate situation, it's catastrophic, the air is full of smoke, we're happy to be on your show to bring you more recognition to what's going on here, but it's very very bad. neil: do you know, i mean the number of missing in the area, and how they arrived these are ever changing numbers, mayor and i'm just wondering what are some of the latest figures you have? >> you know it's a great question, neil. it started at like 150 and then it was 630, two days ago and it's up to 1,000 today. a retirement community, people are only starting to realize they miss people, so they start making those inquiries, oh, i haven't heard from so and so in so long, for that number to keep going up. neil: what do you tell people there, many of them want to go back to their homes, assess the damage, get a sense of what they do now, what the do you tell them? >> that is the hardest part, because we don't have a date when they can go back, we don't

even have a date, you know, when you can't go back, because they're looking for bodies, there's a lot of toxic material, you just give them a hug and a prayer and try and console them because at the moment there aren't any good answers. the federal and state government s are coming in full support, doing everything they can, but we don't want to give people bad information and that is a problem and challenge right now neil. neil: how are you holding up, man? >> i'm doing fine. i'm getting lots of support from people like yourself and others. we're just trying to give paradise everything it needs as we absorb their community into ours and the most important thing is to get those people back on their feet and start to rebuild. neil: you have your priorities in order mayor thank you for taking the time, sean morgan the mayor of chico, california the president en route to the region , to get a first look at one of the biggest fire catastrophes this nation has ever seen. we'll have more after this. in-l,

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>> all right. you're looking at-- this is video we're getting in from paris, france. these protests over rising fuel prices and they've been rocketing lately, have now turned deadly. we're getting reports of one person killed, 47 injured. these demonstrators wearing yellow jackets, have been protesting a government mandate under emmanuel macron to wean the country off fossil fuels and thereby taxing fossil fuels. the yellow fluorescent jackets are what the truck drivers are wearing, and they say they're from that. and the artificially hiked prices way beyond what they can tolerate and they want to do something about it. he's saying look, we're way, way too dependent on the fossil

fuels and the rest and stick by me and we'll get through this. that may explain his 29% approval rating and escalates way beyond what the french authorities thought would be the case. it's turned violent. one person is dead, and better than 40 injured. all right, in the meantime, back in this country, it's the final count and multiple tallies at that and they're all doing it by hand, thousands and thousands of votes across the state, just to put some final stamp on last week's elections, which we thought were a done deal and a finished deal. apparently not, because it goes on. griff jenkins in lauderhill, florida with the latest. >> hey, neil, the hand recount is over and so, too is bill nelson 18-year senate career. let me take you to broward where the officials are tallying and reviewing other state local races. broward was nelson's best shot

at flipping the race. we were told there were 25,000 votes for nelson, turned not the case. 30,000 under and over votes hopefully would turn out, 447 turn out to be nelson's possible net gain. we'll see what the exact results are when we get an official recount at 12 noon tomorrow, but by all accounts, it looks like nelson's run is over. rick scott will win this race for the senate. now, whether or not we get a concession this weekend from nelson is yet to be seen. but we did see an e-mail, a fundraiser e-mail from nelson for emergency funds. remember, if nelson waits until tuesday for the certification, the lawyers are still on the clock. neil. neil: indeed, they are. thank you very much. we will get a fair and balanced prominent republican, a prominent democrat, both with a keen eye with what's going on in the sunshine state. we begin with the lawyer for rick scott's campaign, tim, thank you for taking the time to talk to us. >> good morning, neil, thanks for having me on.

neil: by the way, we did call senator bill nelson's legal team for an interview. we've not heard back. what is your sense the way this vote is going? it looks like the numbers are not there for the senator, and, you know, there's the issue of absentee ballot and the signature on some ballots. >> right. neil: allowing for the possibility that all go the senator's way and that would be statistically impossible, it wouldn't seem to me not in the state to close the gap. what's your sense of things? >> that's correct, rick scott won the election last tuesday. he is the next senator from florida. there is a process and there's a process under state law that has to play out because of the margins. there was a machine recount. there needs to be a manual recount, but most experts, even in both political parties realize that this margin was so significant, it would have been unheard of for any recount or manual recount to flip the results. neil: you know, one thing i didn't understand, and help me

with the so-called under votes. no candidates appeared to be selected by a voter, 30,000 or so such ballots. how indeed was that resolved? >> really, when you look at the samples statewide. what we saw, there are pockets of folks that just decided not to vote in certain races, whether it's a governor's race or another state race and in the senate race there were broward 23,000 undervotes. it was odd, we kept an eye on it, for whatever reason folks chose not to vote in that particular race. neil: so your view is, if the ballots are confusing or there were a disproportionate numbers and it was tucked in the corner of the page or whatever the details were, that that's the breaks and it happens, but it is what it is? >> it is, and the parties get a chance to review these ballots before they're published.

i mean, it's odd, but again, you find these pockets in different-- not even different counties, but precincts, the undervote might be higher than elsewhere, but there wasn't such of an anomaly that it raises significant questions. neil: one thing i didn't understand and maybe you can help me out with this, under, you know, anyone's leadership, it seems like this florida saga keeps coming back. and you know, the governor's been criticized for not, you know, addressing it in his eight years in office, to try to clean this up or deal with this. i remember governor jeb bush was sim la areally criticized for moving slowly on this. >> right. neil: so i know that's been out there a while and democrats and republicans point to him and now say to coming in as the-- assuming that's the case that something has got to be done. what is it? >> i think you have to remember,

there was a major overhaul on florida's election code after the 2000 elections and 50-- or 65 of 67 counties not have these problems. if the law is adhered to and the supervisors of elections follow state law then there's really no problem. the scott campaign, we had to file a whole lot of lawsuits, mainly in broward and palm beach counties, but a couple sprinkled throughout the state, to force compliance with existing state election law. really, the problems have been center in broward and palm beach and the governor has gotten heat over brenda snipes in broward county, but you have to remember she -- this whole scenario where a couple of years ago she had destroyed some ballots and she got in a lot of trouble for it, but she was elected, right around that time she was elected by the people of broward county, and florida's different. our supervisors are different than a lot of states. our supervisors are independent and independently elected. so, i think the governor, you

know, what he had to weigh was do i remove an official that is dually elected by the people of her county and the decision was that wasn't the right thing to do. he wasn't going to override the voter's will when there wasn't charge of criminal conduct. neil: you know, we reached out to bill nelson's folks, they are not commenting, but he has put out an e-mail blast trying to raise funds for this, quoting from that blast, want today give you a kwiek update. we're still getting details with the machine update underway and one thing is clear it's close. rick scott has unlimited resources from his personal fortune to make sure every g.o.p. vote is counted the only way for democratic vote is with your immediate help talking about raising money to ensure that every vote is counted in florida. what do you make of that campaign. that does not sound like someone who is any moment now going to concede the race? >> i think that the only way that-- from election night, with the margin of victory that the governor had and even a few days after that, the only way bill

nelson could have turned this around was-- in his attempt and strategy, was to go to court and get the courts after the fact to basically rewrite florida's election code. i think his lawyers have every incentive to keep this going as long as they can. they're going to need a whole lot of money to pay them, but i think it's time and i hope it's time that the senator realizes that it's statistically impossible. we're hearing up in the tallahassee bubble, in the capital, we hear from a lot of our democrat colleagues there's a lot of talk it's time to concede, that the people have spoken. i don't really make much out of this last ditch fund raising attempt other than there's some hef -- hefty legal bills to pay. neil: certification is set for tuesday. >> that's correct. neil: and it's your understanding that will be certified as go as scheduled tuesday. >> we believe it will. we believe tuesday these

election results will be certified and governor scott, senator-elect scott will be headed to washington. neil: we shall see. thank you for taking the time. appreciate it. >> thank you, neil, appreciate it. neil: let's get a few of in frommed 50,000, and he was head of gore's election team it must seem like deja vu. >> the similarity in 2000 there was a ballot design error in two different counties n palm beach county the so-called butterfly ballot and duval, jacksonville, the so-called caterpillar ballot and each were confusing and cost al gore votes. and you have that in broward county, it caused people not to vote in the u.s. senate race and didn't see the race on the ballot given it's location. the reason we know that's the

case is because the number of undervotes is typically quite small, far less than 1%, but in broward county 3% of all the voters did not vote in the u.s. senate race. 100% or virtually 100% voted in the governor's race and the other major state races, but 3% skipped the u.s. senate race. neil: you're right about that and the constitution in broward county to a lesser extent palm beach county. the one question i have on that, both parties had to write off on that final ballot and they did. and i'm wondering, if it does much good now to talk about a confusing ballot when both parties botched the chance to either simplify it or make it clearer? >> well, for example, back in 2000, it was widely reported, particularly it was republican talking point, that the democratic party and the republican party had signed off on the ballots. that was completely false. no one had looked at it. here, typically the parties do not look at the ballots either and again, i can't vouch for

every single -- election in each of the 67 counties designs their own ballot and of course, the races at the top are the same in each county, but the races at the bottom, local races are different and different number of pages and the design can look a little bit different. it's designed within the supervisor's office and absolutely no requirement that they seek or get approval of the parties. they may as a courtesy show it to the parties, but they don't have to do anything. it's up to the supervisor of elections to design the ballot and typically in prior years the ballot was not shown to members of the party until after it was printed and designed and gone to the printed and too late to make changes. neil: well, we had heard the secretary of state's office that they were cleared by both parties. you're saying that was not the case? >> to my knowledge, they may do that in some counties, but there is no requirement to do that in any counties, and to my knowledge it frequently or usually is not done in most

counties. the other thing about the ballot designers, they're somewhat insidious, because it's not something that's so glaring that one would look at it beforehand, oh, if you design the ballot in this manner this is the problem that's going to happen. after it happens you can say now i see how a number of voters could make that mistake and miss the ballot. it's generally not something that people would be so apparent to people beforehand. neil: do you think a floridians just have a problem understanding their ballots? that some are just sort of overwhelmed by how many races, you know, propositions, are stuffed on these? it's inkreeing -- increasingly in so many counties and florida on steroids, that's the problem. >> it's a long ballot, but i don't think the voters in florida have any more difficulty than voters in any other place.

voting systems have been simplified since 2000. neil: not simplified in florida. your ballots-- not yours, i'm saying florida, have gotten more complex, more involved, more detailed. >> it's a long ballot. there were 13, i'm sorry, 12 constitutional amendments that each have a long description. neil: right. >> there were a lot of different races so there's a lot of races to go through, but the form. ballot is generally simplified. you fill in a bubble, and it has some instructions, it goes through other things. it's much better than the punch card ballots widely used in 2000, but i don't think there's anything about the citizens in florida that would cause them, give them pause or any difficulty in voting in particular. neil: i took a look at one of these ballots and i'm not rocket scientist, but i've got to tell you, it was overwhelming to me. again, thank you very much. >> thank you. welcome, thank you. appreciate you welcoming me. neil: we will have a lot more on the fallout from this. they're going to continue

counting ballots and it's going line by line and bit by bit. if the mailing is for senator nelson, he's still fund raising and that doesn't sound like someone who's going to quit the race. stay with us.

>> all right. the scene at the capital. we could be seeing changes in the capitol. nancy pelosi has no formal challenger yet to leading the democrats, but there are a couple of potential contenders. you've heard a lot about a challenger, but formally has not yet. and the latest on the battle to come, if one does come. >> right now nancy pelosi doesn't have the votes she needs to become speaker. at least 17 democrats are openly opposing her and a couple dozen others are undecided. pelosi a known as a deal maker though and she has been busy meeting with lawmakers to try to win them over. today she got a big endorsement from the democrats target number

one, president trump, who said he's willing to get republicans to vote for her to put her on top. >> i would help nancy pelosi if she needs some votes. she may need some votes. i will perform a wonderful service for her. i like her. do you believe it? i like nancy pelosi. she's tough and she's smart, but she deserves to be speaker. >> that's not necessarily an endorsement pelosi was looking for and this week she was adamant she'll win the speakership with democratic votes. congresswoman marsha fudge is one of the democrats considering challenging pelosi as top job. she pelosi for 45 minutes and afterwards she plans to think about it over thanksgiving. >> sometimes you need a different voice, sometimes you different kind of a vision, but i want to be clear i have not

said anything negative about nancy because i think she's a very, very good leader. >> and many of pelosi's critics believe she's been in power too long and pushed younger lawmakers to the side, but with no clear alternatives, one possibility that's now discussed to get her the votes she needs is pelosi agreeing to limit herself to two years as speaker and then stopping aside to let new leadership take the reins. neil: what are people making of the president praise of nancy pelosi? >> and took the house by running against president trump and his agenda. the fact he's endorsing her is not ringing praise and it's not going to win her over political points in that regard with her own party. in terms of numbers, it could ends up being she needs some republicans to come over to the side and support her. believe it or not the president is being sincere in that offer to help, she very well could end

up taking it or needing that support at least, whether or not she openly says she'll need to take it. neil: well put. all right, garrett. thank you very much. when it comes to finding a new democratic leader you need someone to take on the president. so far no formal takers, we shall see. more after this. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ comfort. what we deliver by delivering.

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know until the ballots are counted and certified, i think on tuesday, who won there. but that would be the 37th pickup in the house for democrats, if it were to materialize. whether that constitutes a blue wave, well depends who you talk to. but what are we to make of that? let's get a read from nan heyworth back from us, democratic strategist rochelle richie, and kat, a fox contributor. if that's a democrat pickup, democrats like to say it's a further sign after blue wave, not a typical midterm election. it would fall within the realm of a typical midterm election, but is it a blue wave to you? >> i think the democrats have a lot to be proud of right now. i think that we saw a little bit of a blue wave. maybe it wasn't, you know, a really big one, but there's definitely some ripples, ripples there. i mean, when you look at how close these races have been when it comes between democrats and republicans. i think that republicans should

be a little concerned because these races are very close, so i'm excited by what i have seen. i'm very excited to see all of the people that came out and voted. and whether you were republican or democrat. i think that a lot of people have been the political pieces, the political giants of all of us have been awakened as a result of this administration and that's one positive. so i don't think that republicans can sleep on what they're seeing happening right now with the democrats. >> and nan the rble nodding. >> i agree with rochelle who is my friend and i respect. i completely agree. what we know now, these races and i ran in a swing district three different times and won a couple of elections and lost a couple. what we know is that today the national-- the case of the 2010 wave that i wanted. the national climate means something. national candidates mean something, but you also have to run on the local issues in our district. and as we watch the democratic relationship struggles proceed

or the challenges proceed, bear one thing in mind, the democrats want to bring back earmarks. that's a powerful political tool, district by district. we republicans said no to earmarks, so we decided we were not-- there are other ways to get local spending. neil: other ways to buy votes. >> look at what nancy pelosi is doing. she's having meetings with members who have been either on the fence or opposed to her. she knows a lot about the districts, you know, i'm sure she's twisting arms and-- >> she might work the system to other favor. >> taxpayer dollars. neil: that's the intriguing question whether nancy pelosi comes out of this as the democratic leader, the speaker of the house again. she's got no formal opponent yet, but seems to be a matter of time. what are you hearing? >> i think it's going to be a matter of time and also, in order for her to actually make it as speaker, she will need votes from some of the freshman

congress people who have come in saying they would not vote for nancy pelosi. neil: donald trump seemed to offer up some republicans. >> i think that's an endorsement about she probably wasn't the biggest fan of and say, great, donald trump endorsed me, she doesn't really want that. neil: what do you make of what trump was doing. >> it's interesting, he has worked with nancy pelosi before. i think that they do actually get along. i don't think he was joking. i don't think he was being a jerk about it. i think when he said he liked nancy pelosi he really meant i like nancy pelosi. >> but, i think with pelosi, we have to keep in mind. it's a double-edged sword-- first of all nancy pelosi has not given us any indication when she plans to leave and there are people-- >> you don't buy this put me in charge for two years? >> no, she's never announced a transition and you have congresswoman marcia fudge coming out and saying they're thinking about running because they don't feel the party

represents the interest of african-americans and millennials. if you look at the base that voted during this midterms that came out in droves, predominantly millennials and african-americans and so she was saying that the caucus, the democratic caucus does not represent the people that pulled it together. neil: and striking her comments, these were after meeting nancy pelosi. you think she would say yeah i'm reined in. she didn't sound like a reined in potential opponent. >> who, marcia fudge? >> yes. >> and i think they would vote for hakeem jeffreys, the co-chair. and i think he is a really, really good opponent to take against pelosi. neil: you don't think that nancy pelosi is going to succeed? >> i don't think that she has the votes. if you listen to what kat just said when you have that many people coming in and saying we

don't support you and they campaigned on it. neil: nan knows the process because she's there. >> i've been there and what they can do is abstain. when the floor vote comes. neil: when it's in caucus. >> and the challenge that nancy pelosi has, there are many challenges politically, but the challenge that she and her opponents who have some 60, nearly 60 members of the new democratic caucus have pledged overtly that they won't vote for nancy pelosi and sticking to their guns, like spanberger. and others were coy. clearly nancy pelosi is not popular in their districts. they're going to start the term with a violation of the terms of their district if they vote for nancy pelosi. if they abstain or vote present, then for every two of them that vote present, the number of votes nancy pelosi needs to become speaker declines by one, instead of-- >> that's a-- >> and i think that people would

be upset about that. >> absolutely. neil: and kat is offended by the whole thing. >> i'm offended and disgusted by politics. neil: that's a way out of it. >> i feel that-- >> it's sort of a way out of it. if i voted for someone, i won't vote for nancy pelosi and they get in the establishment and help they are get in. i would not be happy, neil. >> welcome to the new majority. nobody's got it easy. >> they have a problem because if she decides to stay, if she wins, that's going to be an incentive for her to stay through 2020 because people will get comfortable. they'll get complacent as they have been and they'll say we won't want to stir the pot so we're going to continue. >> and run hillary again. >> and she has not said anything about leaving at all. neil: thank you. what a mess. a mess. >> it's exciting. >> i'm excited to see it all. >> lots to talk about. neil: lady, they all very, very much. well, the former ice director is furious, furious at senator

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>> this is one of those moments when people said did she really say that? apparently the uproar over democratic senator kamala harris causing more concerns when she drew a link between ice and the kkk. that was something that sort of

tested the former acting ice director tom homan. he said he wasn't unhappy about it, but offended by it. take a look. >> i think her comment was disgusting. for her to vilify the men and women, the 20,000 men and women that strap a gun to their hip every day leave the security of their home to enforce a law that congress enacted. she's a member of congress. she doesn't like what ice does, change the law. or you know what? strap a gun on your hip and put on a kevlar vest and arrest someone that doesn't want to be arrested that you let out of the sanctuary jail. the men and women are ice are enforcing the laws that congress enacted and to vilify and call them names. she ought to walk the wall that the national law enforcement memorial for hundreds that gave the ultimate sacrifice and lost their lives and apologize to them and the families of men and

women that died serving their country. neil: let's get the read from arizona senator congressman biggs. what do you think about the comment? >> i thought it was morally reprehensible. i believe she did it for political purposes. she's running for president, trying to set herself aside. these men and women are putting themselves in harm's way. the rule of law is what makes america different from any other country in the world. neil: we've reached out to the senator and she didn't respond back, hope springs eternal, what she meant by the remarks. and whether our stance on the caravan is racist, what do you make of that? >> well, i mean, you can try to characterize that that it's racist, but we're a rule of law country and we have-- so in april they come up, a caravan came up and this one is three times as large and i'm going to tell you if you don't

enforce your rule of law, you don't have a nation at all and this has knowing to do with race or anything else, this has the rule of law and i can tell you this, if we don't enforce the law this time you're going to see another caravan and also three times as big. because we will have proven to the world, that we don't care about our own laws and our own border. neil: you know, it also confuses an issue that a lot of people mistakenly believe that we've shut down our country to immigrants of all sorts, when, in fact, this year it's likely we will take in legally up to one and a quarter million, which would be darn close to a record. last year 1.13 million, 20161.18 million. these are immigrants who were granted legal status here going through the regular and legal process. so, the rap against this president that he's shutting down the border, the statue of liberty is crying and that it

gets overwrought. how do you explain to people the process because i think that's lost in the potential battle that's excited by sending thousands of troops down there to work with ice, whether they can work with ice. do you worry that that message then gets lost, what's happening with legal immigration? >> right, i do think it gets lost. the narrative is real hard to make, but what i try to convey to people is we let in more people legally every year than live in my congressional district by about 50% more. i mean, this is really what we're doing in america, is we're creating through legal immigration, effectively, another congressional district every year of population. people seem to get that, but i mean, we let a lot people in from all over the world. neil: i honestly think, congressman, a lot of people don't know that and that's why my staff and i were working on this over the weeks. well, we've seen coverage in the mainstream media this is racist, leaving aside the debate over

the caravan, our borders are not shut down, there is a legal process. question happens with these honduran, nicaraguan, guatamalan refugees and what we do with them. mexico offered a couple thousand citizenship and a good many passed on that in favor of citizenship in the united states, i can't blame them for that, but the issue becomes whether using asylum status is the way to do it. i'm told that asylum status is a very strict definition, and it must mean your life is in danger where you're coming from, or your family's. is that the gist of it? >> nas the gist of it, but we know about 80% or more, actually a little over 80% of the people who claim asylum, they're bogus claims. they can't be supported and so, if we can catch them, they get deported, but the problem that we're doing now is, and we've been doing this, we're catching them, they claim asylum. we hold them for a bit and we e

release them into the interior. and we never see them again actually 2% show up at their asylum hearing that we've asked them to come to. so, we've got this mass of people here who have no real claim, and they've been released into the interior. so not only are we doing the legal immigrants well over a million over year, but tens of thousands of -- hundreds of thousands of people here on an asylum request that's bogus. neil: thank you. we'll watch how it plays out. to the congressman's point a lot of the dust-ups you've been hearing in tijuana, from mexicans demanding for extra security and calling on the part of the mexican governor to deal with this again. and it's mexico with the referees coming in and ill-prepared to deal with all of that. more after this. the highest increases

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>> all right. the president about an hour away from california to see the devastation of those wildfires for himself. malibu mayor rick mullens joins me right now. mayor, thank you for taking the time. how is it looking? >> it's looking better today, neil. we're rounded the corner from the operational phase to the recovery phase. the weather is calm, the skies are clear and we're starting to get people back into the center of malibu. a lot of-- some of the neighborhoods have opened up. i spoke to the city manager today going to the repopulation meeting. i think the city of malibu and fire department are generally in agreement we want to get people back quickly as possible. the limiting aspect will be the giant infrastructure replacement efforts going on primarily by the power company putting hundreds of poles all over the place. i'm hopeful that will get everyone back in. that's the concern for people on the outside, to get back to their homes whether they survived or not and putting the

pieces back together. mother nature is calm today and we're taking advantage of it and i think things will get better down here today. neil: i hope that's so, mayor. we get these numbers all over the map, sir, on the number missing. what are the latest counts or estimated counts, in your area? >> you know, i'm not sure about the missing down here. i think that's a big factor up in the camp fire and northern california. neil: absolutely. >> i don't know what the latest ones are down here. we're very lucky, very lucky. in fact i speak yesterday to a person who was actually on location with the first two people killed in the fire and a very harrowing episode. for anyone caught in the hills with the fire, it's an incinerator in its path. >> 2 people evacuated in a

10-hour period that was effective. the rest is big mess and people are unhappy about losing their homes, et cetera, but the fact that we were able to save so many lives, i think is an indictment on the evacuation order, was very successful. now, the rest of it, i know that now we're entering the difficult phase, which is putting people's lives back together. we're getting a lot of resources from the federal government, the state and the county, and everybody's very helpful and now we have to figure out how to focus all of that energy so that the people who actually needed to get their lives back together can do it. we're opening up a couple of disaster assistance center bun at the courthouse at malibu, the county is doing it at agora, at the hilton foundation. so, things are getting a lot better now and people will be able to start coming back in and it's much better now. thank god. neil: thank god, indeed. mayor, thank you very, very much. i know you certainly have been

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you just missed brenda snipes the election authority in broward county saying the process is going smoothly. she's not able to explain the difference of the number of ballots 700 plus that went one way versus the old way. i can get into the weeds here. it bores me explaining it, but it's the bottom line is, is it going to change the outcome of the senatorial race? let's listen in and see if we can pick up thoughts on that. >> from early voting is because of where the reduction in the numbers were according to our second -- yes. is that consistent with what everybody sees in the numbers? 2045 is reflected in the-- >> i believe that i have, have in front of me if you would allow us to go back and look more carefully and determine exactly where we think the shortage might be. >> that's not early voting, but

i don't know, i don't have access to-- >> if i could go back and meet and make a determination where they believe the shortage is. neil: all right, you're hearing about the shortages and differences and all of the new ballots, a lot of them concern ballots and signatures, and talk about the number dismissed 4,000 in all most notably broward county, maple dade count because the signatures didn't match and they went back and looked again. it's not going to make a difference in the outcome because even in the senate race, senator nelson were to get all of them. it wouldn't make up the 14,000 gap here. i only mention this because it's going to go on quite a while. there is a very interesting development in a congressional race, the florida 89th retired republican congressman, the two battling it out for his post.

the democrat has a slight lead, albeit by a few dozen votes and that's yet another seat that could tip for the democrats and i believe that would make it 38 seats gained in the house. so, the implications for that, even for your money way outside of the state of florida, joining us jonas max ferris, and aaron gibbs, i think it's a stretch to assume it affects the markets, but the future may be gains for democrats in the house could. i'm wondering what you think of that? >> i think just purely on a percentage of vote versus percentage of house seats is interesting, how much the democrats are getting for the bang for their buck for each vote given to them, but other than that, from a markets perspective, yeah, i really don't see it being a meaningful impact on what we're going to see next week. neil: i want to clarify i might have misstated. right now in the counting process, the democrat-- it's the democrat that trails the republican by 37 votes, but

it's close. john, your thoughts on whether this has national implications? >> it's going to be a democratic house, a republican senate, baked in. we kind of know that. where it finally results here in florida is not going to make that much of a difference. it was a blue wave that took the house. now, having the republican senator makes a difference in 2020. but all in all, i think most of the viewers are wondering in the day and age of the hand held calculator why are we here in broward county year after year after year. neil: what do you think? >> forget it jake, it's florida. it does make your vote more valuable to move to florida, maybe that will help the florida real estate market is having problems with interest rates going up in the foreign market-- foreign buyer in the market. i saw the ballot. it's confusing and long and the things with the republicans off the top enough votes to win that, but that was a democrat thing from decades ago because she want today keep in power when they were in power.

it needs to be randomized you don't have the back wind, we won the governor last time and be at the top. people go in and check off the dots. it's a crazy state. more news than 20 other states combined every year and you see it playing out in the election. it's a fun place, too. neil: with the weather and that. and it was a crazy week for the markets. a lot of volatility. we're not getting over that anytime soon? >> it does not look like it. it does not look like we are going to come back. the first few days we thought in october. but we've seen continual fears and each day something else, one day it's oil. the next day it's brexit. the next it's renewed trade war fears and it just keeps, keeping the markets on edge and definitely higher volatility and low validations. neil: you know-- low valuations. neil: and the markets had a

rebound, even if there's news or hope of good news in china. the g20 meeting in argentina. the president meeting with ping counterpart in china and hoping they cobble together the construct of a deal, what do you think? >> i think the market has been metabolizing what happened in the election. neil: i like that, met tablizing. >> it's digesting. all of that has to do with the things you mentioned, taxes and trade notably, but there are big, you know, big -- big issues out there. what's the fed going to do in december now? do they see a slowdown coming? there seems to be more evidence of na. certainly globally there is. the u.s. is the only-- >> do you think that gives them a pause in this rate hike campaign? >> who knows. maybe not, maybe they know, no, the inflation data is such that we're going to stick by our guns on this, we're going to stay on

schedule with december. what happens with brexit, this is chaos in britain right now over what they're trying to do and what it might mean for elections there, and new people coming in with views of brexit. that's keeping the markets volatile. neil: you can flip it around. jonathan you and i talked about this. the ballot with britain and everything else, that we look like a safe haven. certainly, our dollar for a good chunk this week was a safe haven. >> i think there's no question that the brexit thing in particular and italy, even in this tariff thing we're the number one destination for money which is why our currency is a little too strong. relatively speaking we don't have banks teetering on failure because of brexit. i'm concerned about the tariff thing does too well-- i think the fed is itching to raise rates and they've probably been dragging and they think that there'll be a trafr tariff

war. and the rates, not the tariffs-- and a 30-year fixed mortgage for people at home, psychological and leading to pressure in the real estate market. if we go higher, that could cause problems for stocks and real estate. in some ways you want the fed redistricted right now ab worried about the trade situation. neil: are you worried, erin? you hear about a global slowdown, it's going to bite us, too. do you buy that? >> up until we just saw some real concerning numbers coming out of europe in the past two weeks, particularly disappointing gdp growth, that type of thing. the combination of a hard brexit and italy not complying with the eu, those are starting to loom larger in our concerns. so, yes shall the u.s. still looks much safer, but there's definitely a little more exposure and risk out there for us, and so--

>> our own growth could slow by then. >> exactly. >> aren't they saying that, maybe we don't see the big growth that we anticipated as a result? >> that's exactly right. you know, how long can the u.s., as the main engine of the global economy, keep chugging up the hill and dragging along the rest of the world. >> what do you think? >> if the rest of the world was doing as well as we were. we would be doing better. the best economy of 20, 30 years. we're the only ones, it's a great growth rate. better than the last decade or so. it could be without the other countries joining in. neil: you're not reliable because you could not understand the florida ballot. >> i could not. mailing it in. neil: i'm kidding. you guys are all great. thank you very much. the president, if you've been busy tweeting, headed right now to california and in fact what he's doing. and meeting with kevin mccarthy, the new republican leader and with our brave firefighters, first responders and fema along

with many brave people of california. we're with you all way, god bless you all. that will conclude our coverage. we'll be looking at the implications to all of this. the count goes on in kale cal and hoping to end an election from a week ago and fox continues. >> a fox news alert. president trump set to land shortly in california this saturday to survey the damage, see the governor there along with those whose lives have been changed forever by these wildfires. 74 people dead. more than a thousand people missing as it result of the wildfires. they continue to burn on the northern and southern part of california. noon eastern here in washington. welcome to america's news headquarters. air force one lands in about 45 minutes. and nice to be with you, i'm leland vittert. >> i'm gillian turner. we've got team coverage off the top on the california wildfires and the race