and 40s. they are expected to bring in more than $165,000 altogether. the auction, as did they celebrate mickey's 90th birthday. that is "fox report" this saturday, november 17. i am jon scott. thank you for watching. life, liberty and levin starts now. >> hello america this is life, liberty and levin.i am mark levin we have jim jordan with us. good to see you. >> good to see you. you do not need much of an introduction. in 2006, you won the primaries for the fourth congressional district of ohio. and you have won ever since. 100 percent lifetime rating from the ohio taxpayers association. one of the founders of the

house freedom caucus. chip roy, i know you very well. you've been a longtime conservative activist intensity also chief of staff to ted cruz for. of time. now a newly elected member of congress from the 21st district of texas. a>> yes, sir. >> we had an important election. people are messaging about the election. we picked up a few seats in tit senate. we lost three dozen seats or so in the house of representatives. i understood the presence message. he was all of the country campaigning. he was very focused on what he was campaigning about. economy, immigration, i understood the senate side. kavanaugh, kavanaugh, kavanaugh. here's the problem. i still don't know what the house of representatives on the republican side was running on. i still don't know what the message was. and i would have thought with the president out there, while

it was not a blue wave by any means, what did they take so many seats? >> you are right. i don't think that we matched the intensity that the president has displayed here in the town taking on the establishment and the swamp and taking on the town. remember, , everywhere that the president went, he made a huge difference. we're talking about missouri, florida, we have the freedom caucus was governor of florida. he came to ohio on the monday before. projections were, we might lose all statewide races. we won them all but one. it has a president can't know how. the president, there was an intensity and energy about the guy that the american people appreciate. they so that matched in the senate when the senate stood up and defended kavanaugh. but they have not seen it from the house. have we replaced obamacare? how we reform welfare? cabro secure the border?those

are the three biggest -- >> leadership was say we sent that to the senate.is that true? >> somewhat to the senate only the healthcare bill. we haven't done healthcare or the border. we have a good building another whelp supported and chip was campaigning on the campaign trail. below could hundred 93 votes. and it didn't take enough republicans to do what we said we were going to do. the message should have been in the campaign, we are cobblers we said we would do and more portly what you left us to do in 2016. that should have been election but always got done was tax cuts. this is going forward, we had to regain the trust of the american people and get accomplished, if you put us back in power you will get those things done. >> chip roy, what did you campaign on in your successful race? >> my message was pretty simple. i ran as congressman alluded to iran on securing the border, healthcare freedom and balancing the budget. these are all things that republicans said they would do for a long time. but failed to do.and if you

want to know what happened, you don't need to look any further than the fact that the republicans literally failed to do what they said they would do. over the last several years. i think that this is a clear symptom of leadership failing rito do their job. to paint with bright colors, use the language that reagan use. had the opportunity of a lifetime to actually gain in a midterm the republican -- the american people were hungry. in my district there hungry for leadership. they are happy see the president shaking things up in washington. breaking the status quo.you know getting rid of regulations for every new one relation getting us out of the clean power, so-called peer the powers agreement, make a show of good judges. i can say this, had it not been for the democrat overreach in the kavanaugh hearings region and rising the base, our base was demoralized and sitting back because the house leadership and house republicans were not given them a reason to support them. i don't literally even know what the message was from house republicans on what they were

trying to sell. i know what i sold and it worked and d.people listened. mark: this is a good point i cannot even tell you today with the position of -- >> sa fox news alert. it is 4:04:00 on the west coast and that is where president trump is touring the damage of the devastating wildfires in northern and now southern california. he is in the malibu area along with the governor elect, gavin newsom taking a look at the forest fire, the woolsey fire that has so badly damaged the area and beyond. the fire is about 80 percent contained right now. it has scorched nearly hundred thousand acres and has destroyed more than 700 structures. 57,000 are still considered to be in danger. again, these are live pictures of president trump as he tours some of the devastation of the woolsey fire in malibu, california.

with the governor elect, gavin newsom and other state officials. kevin cork has been traveling with the president. was with him earlier in the day when he was in northern california. kevin, bring us up to date. reporter: i can tell you this, it is interesting being here on the ground. i know you have great experience in covering this throughout your career. for the folks at home, you see the pictures and think, i've seen one fire i have seen them all. i can tell you here in paradise, it is simply not the case. one white house official described as apocalyptic. another firefighter that we spoke with from los angeles, said it was as if a fire tsunami struck this particular area. it made the president visit here, that much more impactful and that much more important. he got to see the devastation in paradise and other places in northern california. but also, to come to grips john, with what has been a

devastating -- jon: let me interrupt you. the president is speaking and we want to listen in. >> you do not get much better than this and you see the devastation. in total you said over 100,000 acres. a tremendous amount. 100,000 acres, people cannot envision what that is. it is a tremendous piece of land and it is devastating to see it. i have to say, the government officials have done an incredible job. when you look at this devastation and i guess at this moment, in this area there are three deaths so far. pretty incredible. it is horrible but also credible. the job they've done, they evacuated very early and took a lot of heat. they have made the right decision. that is a lot of political pressure on not having to do it because no one thinks this will happen. they are all unhappy but now

they're happy that this was a great decision. law enforcement again, first responders, the military really helped a lot. in both sites that we visited today. and of course, fema and -- maybe i can ask you to say a few words. >> thank you, mr. president. we are here not only down in southern california but also up in paradise and it is our job at fema to coordinate the federal government through the governor here to ultimately come help the firefighters at the local level and police and emergency managers overcome this disaster. the assistance we provide is not only going to be able to assist with debris removal but more importantly taking care of people and you know, mass care to also fire mitigation. as you can see, the wildfires go through an area like this, the land is scorched and a little bit of rain is nice but

too much rain could be a problem also. we are already trying to think ahead and work with partners to try to mitigate what we can of the additional impact. >> towns and every place we visited, i see and i've asked the question, they're all going to do an expedited rebuild. meaning, permits will come a lot faster. then they would normally be. this is us tough situation and another will get fast with expediting to get this rebuilt and redone. it is a great thing. it will make things happen a lot faster. would you like to say something? >> as a matter fact, the executive order will speed up the permit process as well as other recovery actions. that will help and all i can say is, we're going to have to learn a lot more about nature, about the wind, the fire potential, about how to build, how not to build, how to escap

. what measures of protection we can build in. it is not going to be cheap but i think we have to carefully really look into the facts here and take all that we learn and apply it going forward. and of course, i will not do. he will have to do that. . >> thank you for the baton. >> is interesting because the fires, you go down the list. this is past the point that people have had enough of this. we have to deal with this head on. the governor has done an amazing job the last couple of years. we have invested a record amount of money into our efforts but we have to do more. and this clearly, underscores that. i also want to underscore the corporation from the federal government and we are grateful for that. there are no politics being played. the president signed that emergency declaration immediately and i cannot impress upon all of the folks

here how grateful i am to the conversations we've had, private not just public over the last few hours. in terms of expectation going forward, that the federal government will not just be here today with all of you. but tomorrow in over the course of the next few years as we rebuild. >> we will get it going. >> i would like to say on behalf of cal fire, throughout california we still remain a critical fire weather. as a fire in the fires of north continue, we can containment the challenge is not over. through cooperation of agencies throughout california that we are successful. thank you. >> on behalf of the county of los angeles i want to thank the governor and the president for their presence to get the federal resources here in support as it relates to combating the fire. also to rebuild the community.

i also want to thank my counterpart here from cal fire. and our law enforcement. we had all hands on deck trying to protect the community and we were successful in getting tens of thousands of people out. and unfortunately we lost property but we save lives. if you can imagine, hurricane type force wind coming to the community that we had firefighters and shares protecting the citizens here. but once again mr. president, and governor, thank you for your support. we're looking forward to rebuilding our community and also looking forward from the local and state and federal level to really talk about these and what we can do to mitigate and prevent these things from occurring in the future.>> thank you, chief. >> mayor of the city of malibu. thank you very much mr. president for coming down here and share your concern and for the support you've given us. governor and governor elect, i also appreciate everything you've done. malibu took it on the chin but

compared to fire up north, we did not lose as many lives. if there is a silver line here is that we saved a lot of lives and we paid for it and frustration for people who are outside. we have mandatory evacuation orders so thank you for all your patience trying to get you back in as quickly as possible. everybody has suffered a loss here, of all their personal belongings and precious memories, we will do everything we can with the assistance of these fine gentlemen to get back together and we will leave no stone unturned to come together and malibu. we will be strong again. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. >> ventura county supervisor. i appreciate everything you've done. appreciate our fire and the counties coming together to save lives like you said. it was amazing be part of this. we've seen a lot of tragedy in ventura county with the shooting and the whole bit and it's been amazing. we will rebuild, we will get through this and i do appreciate mr. president, your prayers and your wife's prayers

and the whole countries prayers. for this community. we are strong here in california and i appreciate the governor and the governor elect being here to show that support. we are going to get through this but it will be tough and i do appreciate everything that's happened here in malibu and the rest of this so thank you. >> president trump along with the governor of california, jerry brown and the incoming governor, gavin newsom. and malibu, it has been badly, badly hit by the woolsey fire. three dead there. the president is touring the area. he was in northern california earlier today. at the camp fire. now he is touring malibu, we'll keep you updated here on fox news channel. not cool. freezing away fat cells with coolsculpting? now that's cool! coolsculpting safely freezes and removes fat cells with little or no downtime. and no surgery. results and patient experience may vary. some common side effects include temporary numbness, discomfort,

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at comcast, it's my job to develop, apps and tools that simplify your experience. my name is mike, i'm in product development at comcast. we're working to make things simple, easy and awesome. mark: welcome back. chip roy, newly minted soon-to-be member of congress. i want to get back to this issue, the hearings. pushing out all the subpoenas. i believe in congressional oversight.strongly. the fbi, department of justice, intelligence agencies, our tax money goes into these places. their institutions are authorized by congress, funded by congress, federal employees involved. nothing to do with some of these tax returns. it is nothing to do with a private enterprise. with billions and billions of dollars.

we're members of congress sit there and say -- pretend i am a irs agency. i'm going to do it my friends and abba sabotaged the administration. i will drag it down. former federal prosecutor. the trump administration says, we are more than happy to work with you on matters of official conduct, matters of the administration. however, i'm a blanket ruling. anything involving my family and me and our personal finances, you did not get any of it. what about that? >> i think you're exactly right and i think about through this lens, you talk about separation of powers. whatever job is and congress to oversee the executive branch is critically important. that is meant for as you point out before, constitutional purposes.it is meant about the power of the executive branch being used and in his

official duties and what is trying to do and whether or not his constitutional they are is the stitutional they are job of congress. the job of congress is not to go on fishing expeditions for personal assaults are going up to the presidents family. that is not what it's about. it is about protecting the constitution and frankly, you want to make article 1 grid again. something i talked about on the campaign trail. article 1 in congress than they need to reassert itself and in governance. in passing law. not turning over power to the bureaucracy and the executive branch. they need to do their job representing the people. that is what i think why they are missing the boat. >> in the end it's about freedom. there's a big difference between the irs targeting people for political beliefs then going at the people holding them accountable which is we try to do. there's a difference between the fbi doing what they did end up holding them accountable then going after peoples finances. and what the left is not telling us they will try to do to the president and his family. omit is ultimately about freedo and i would argue today, and i don't mean this to sound overly dramatic but i think freedom is under attack. you are seeing from all -- we had a hearing where with

college professors and had this one in the hearing. said, professor, in a safe space on a college campus can i say this sentence? come trump as president. his response began with, congressman, it depends. i interrupted and said it is a fact. there's no, it depends about it. he has been sworn in. he is the president of the greatest -- but that is where the left crazy thinking when freedom is attacked, that is where it takes us. this is fundamental. this is so fundamental. we should hold agencies accountable in the come after personal liberties. any americans cpersonal liberties. lower congress is going to use their power to go after the president just because they want to dig into his business finances, give me a break. >> what about camouflaging? the very party that rejects so much in the constitution and its original interpretation

will not waiver on the constitution and say, the clause, they have a clause. not a pretend clause. they found a clause, and they will say, this is why we need to determine if the president of the estate finances are appropriate or russia collusion to see if they got anything from russia or anything like that. that is no basis for oversight peer with her trying to do there is lay a fake foundation for impeachment. the oversight is a legislative function. they're trying to figure out you all, are trying to figure out appropriations, maybe we need to eliminate a program or something like that. we did not get to look over the presidents shoulder and his finances. let me ask you this question. somebody is wealthy. they get elected president of the united states. will this be the pattern the democrats can drag a wealthy republican president through the dirt. the republicans that say this

guy bloomberg got elected, you know what? he is three or four times wealthier reporting than the present. we want your tax returns. want to know, did you ever talk to your reporters? we want to know about t everything. will this be the new trend? >> i think with a star opening pandora's box, thus directions it goes and where does it stop? and with respect to people working in the ministration and congress. but again, all of this is taking all the eyes of the preiser with the american people actually want to see accomplished. your talk about freedom being under assault. it is under assault because republicans are just laid down on the ground and they will not stand up to defend freedom. they owwere talk about the misu of government power to go after people in the administration or whether it is failing to actually articulate the cause of freedom and stand up on the issues that we believe in. of course the left is going to take advantage of that. we saw that why so many

democrats ran as openly socialist and democrat in their agenda. >> by the way most of them lost. >> that's right. but they also got a lot of us because some of our people did not stand up and probably trumpet freedom and the issues we know we want to stand by. >> is in this one of the reasons people on the conservative base love donald trump? as a matter of fact on the counter hearings all of a sudden there's lindsey graham. now lindsey graham is really appreciated by conservatives and so many more people because he had a spartacus type speech. >> sure enough.they want to see you fight for the things that count. that is what they want to see. and they want to see that particularly in the context we are in now. think about today's left. they say will upload iniquity disrespects the flag. going to praise governor cuomo when he stands up and says, america was never that great. in regard to cheer on maxine waters and she says go out and harass anyone, anyone who supports the president. that is today's left.

and our conservative, anything most americans with common sense say, we want so to stand up and fight. that's not who we are and what our country, is not why our nation is such a great nation. they see the president do it. they need to see more from congress doing the same.>> that's where the left is emboldened to put things like medicare for all. they're going out there saying i believe in healthcare freedom or healthcare for all. t allow people to reel to access doctors of the choice to have someone that can come to your house. you can pay hundred dollars with and have access to them. you can have nurses, insurance from one job to the next. these are all things that we can do if we stand up and fight for them to lower the cost of if we go down that path for a while talking about it but we turned over the field to the democrats. pricing will plan their field on pre-existing conditions.>> is in this one of the things that reagan used to do? jack used to do? used to say enterprise zones, tax cuts across the board. they should talk about freedom. they used to be very positive. aspirational peer they would embrace the principles.

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headquarters" i am jon scott. president trump in california today touring damage of the devastating wildfires in northern and southern california. these are live pictures.the president arriving in southern california a short time ago. to toward damaged areas in malibu after the woolsey fire ripped through claiming three lives there. he is with governor jerry brown and the incoming governor, gavin newsom. the fire is about 80 percent contained around malibu.it burned more than 700 structures. 57,000 are still in danger. this morning the president stopped in northern california seeing firsthand the devastation from the camp fire that is not consider the deadliest wildfire in the u.s. in a century. at least 71 people have died in that fire. an estimated 1000 more are unaccounted for.

we will bring updates here on fox news. for now i am jon scott, now back to life, liberty and levi . >> i am back with chip roy and jim jordan. jim jordan, president of the estates, joint chiefs of staff tells the attorney general, he wants his resignation peter attorney general is a decent man. by the way, may run again for his own seat. i think he is an excellent senator. may have been a mismatch in terms of the department of justice. so they appoint his chief of staff a former u.s. attorney. to be the acting attorney general. for some of the so-called experts saying that's not real to follow succession. of course that is wrong. so you see the acting attorney general. then we get the leftists out there saying, it is a constitutional crisis. unless the acting attorney general accuses himself from the investigation. the acting attorney general had nothing to do with anything.

why should he recuse himself? >> he shouldn't! >> meanwhile rosenstein is there with all comments. >> you are right. he should not recuse himself from mr. rose's son has a conflict from the very beginning. he wrote the memo that became the basis requiring james comey that the left says that is obstruction of justice. mr. rosenstein is now overseeing the special counsel who he appointed robert mueller, and robert mueller is looking to, was obstruction of justice into the firing of james comey? you have to be kidding me! we pointed this out. >> he is a witness. >> of course! we pointed this out from day one but mr. rosenstein, no, this is fine. ccwe asked for the mccabe memos. sorry no. asked to see parts of -- we are not good to show even though everyone has clearance. we asked to see -- >> 302 is the fbi interview. >> s1 bruce ohr 's wife worked

for the company that nyhired christopher steele -- >> you know all this will come to an end. >> also we have time before now in the first of the year. >> my question is this. just as a former federal prosecutor as a constitutional rational matter. why would an acting attorney general have to recuse himself because the democrats demand he recuse himself? >> the democrats are the same people. there saying this is a constitutional crisis. remember in june 2017 it's a crisis because jeff sessions was the attorney general. they cannot get any of their stories straight. erthey're looking for a crisis where isn't one. and unfortunately, ignore the ones where there are problems. that is also seen time and time again. frankly, it is partly that the american people being so frustrated that they are seeing a continued pursuit, continue coming out of a rabbit trail instead of focusing on issues they care about. none of this is helping peoples

lives get better making sure that there is food on their plate and jobs and shelter. all of this is making matters worse. >> about rod rosenstein, it is alleged that he said he was going to wear a wire and record the commander-in-chief of our country. it is alleged he was talking about the 20 for the member. all that between march 9 when the memo was the basis for firing james comey and march 17, 2017 when he named bob mueller. this also positive happen in that timeframe. and he won't answer a question. that is wrong. >> he talked about the saturday night massacre. this is like -- i want the younger viewers of this is like that. you know, at least it is getting better. they've been comparing the bu president to hitler. now there comparing him to nixon. so we're moving down the line here. but the saturday night massacre, nixon ordered his attorney general to fire the special counsel. he refused and resigned.

then he order the deputy attorney general. he refused and he resigned. next in line, he directed the solicitor of the united states. he said look, i don't agree with it but someone has to do with it. he is the president he is executive branch and they fired him. that is why they took him off the supreme court by the way. has a present of the united states and ordered anyone to fire mr. mueller? >> he said just the opposite. he said just the opposite! let him complete the investigation because there is nothing there. and guess what? there's nothing there. not one bit of evidence to show coordination, collusion, conspiracy between the trump campaign and russia. but we know the clinton campaign like i said before, hired the law firm, gps fusion who then went into what? talk to therussians. to do what? put together a fake dossier . that was the bait. i cannot believe this happened. it was the basis for the fbi going to a secret court to get a warrant so they could spy on the other campaign. and the democrats say nothing there. what, are you kidding me?

>> chip roy, what about the medias role here? they cannot disguise it anymore. they are cited one political party against the other. they obviously are very excited about the democrats and what they are going to do after the election was clear the democrats were taking the house. cnn was excitedly and repeatedly talk about the subpoenas are going to fly. maybe the word impeachment will be brought up and so they definitely have the media on their side.we saw this press conference the other day. where cnn 's representative, jim acosta literally, was trying to disrupt and sabotage the press conference. for the purpose of the presidentialpress conference, is for we the people to see what is going on. not to become provocative and make news. so you guys, republicans, are not going to have most of the press on your side. but hasn't that always been the case?

>> there's no question that there is bias. a rep as a child in the reagan era and i remember watching all the press briefings. sam donaldson sitting there sparring with ronald reagan and so forth. but i think that there is a certain edge to today's media. that is a little different. even worse. what we saw with acosta is terrible but he is all about him sapir the white house for him as a prop. he's using that's leverage and promote himself. it's not about journalism and seeking the truth. he's making opinion news. he doesn't even need to be in the white house in order to do what he does. he can pine about it from the back benches somewhere. reality is, they're using this for show and to prop orthemselv up instead of honoring their responsibility and othe free press and democracy to seek the truth wherever it may go. >> that press conference in the media was an absolute disgrace. they disgraced themselves. not just for the country sbut the entire world. and it is not their job to disrupt a press conference. they can ask tough questions. pbut, and also to push away, h did push away the white house

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ask jim jordan, immigration is a big issue. apparently not to the majority in the house. still a big issue to majority yin the senate. i assume nothing will come out of the house of representatives or the democrats to secure the border. because they believe it helps them in every way.action want to change the nature of the elective and voter in terms some of the purple states blue and red states purple. is anything that can be done house or anything the senate can do? >> i would argue it's also a majority issue for the majority the country is a big issue. look, i think is tough because remember where they are at. their leader, their party. secretary clinton said -- many

members said they wanted to abolish i.c.e. and never secure the border. it is tough to work with, chip said it best earlier. one of the things it defined as a nation is your boundaries and borders. part of being a sovereign nation is you should be able to control your border. the idea that one major party in our country doesn't want to do that, it is tough to work with them. so i guess that we can if they see the light. and actually want to have a border security wall. secure the border, have it happen in a legal way. and it's tough. think about every issue from chain recreation, century cities, the whole visa lottery, all those things, they are not with it so it will be tough. that's why these elections are so important. >> let me make a suggestion to you on this. when reagan was president, he never had the house of representatives. he shut down the government six times. on key issues he wanted to take care of. the missile, the trident missile, other things.

then you got a lot of what he wanted. he went over the head of the democrats in the house and he spoke to the american people directly. the president of the united states wants to secure that border and he is spending, mitch mcconnell is very proud of himself the other day that they were getting all of his appropriations bills. because it is the biggest spending and history. the republicans better watch as per this the time to say okay, this is what i want. and this is what we are going to do. or we will shut down the government and when we shut it down, we will win more elections because that is the pattern. the president takes charge, shut it down, the american people see leadership, they want the border secure. in other words, we are not without power. >> absolutely. i was proud to be the chief of staff for senator cruz in 2013 and worked with jim and a lot of great folks in the house to try to make sure we set up to defend obama pair because we knew it would cause premiums to go up and double and triple.

i am proud of what we try to do that. frankly, we would have succeeded some folks had a run to the hill crying in the corner saying they're shutting down the government and it is somehow going to cost us elections when in fact it doesn't.o it causes us to gain seats. it cause us to be able to win the presidency in 2016. immigration is one of the issues we need to turn back around on the democrats. i'm tired of letting them take the high ground in their opinion that somehow they are pro-immigrant. when the west and that they can do is in a false compassion open border have women and children getting sold into the sex trafficking business, women on top of train cars, empowering the cartels because we refuse to do your basic job as a sovereign nation and secure our border. we need to turn that background of the democrats. it is they who have blood on their hands of what is happening on the border to these children and these kids. nby the way, go down and spend day on the border. let's have hearings in the rate of texas pay less talk to border patrol down there who endorsed me in my campaign and i'm proud of it. the 72 miles of the laredo

sector, how many miles of that, not just defense but even a road that is navigable along the rio grande. two miles. they cannot see the river ebecause the cane is too thick. they do not have cell phone signals, they don't have radio signals, they do have operational control at the border. the cartels do. and because we refuse to do your jobs. >> how do we fix it? i'm assuming nethe answer is ta a tour. >> yes, remember, this congress one time the governor said that was when chuck schumer said -- >> we didn't take advantage of rit. >> we blew our chance. we could've gotten the security wall if you have been willing to engage in debate. after all, we got a guy in the white house who is pretty good at communicating with the american people. pretty darn good at it. if we engage the president or the president engages and we are unified in this we can win. >> leaves gemma, don't forget, most every week that you can

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house and the big republican majority in the senate for president. he just has heto address the president how he manages congress. let's talk about no bill is law until he signs it. no appropriation is made until he agrees to it. almost nothing happens. you guys in congress, soon to be, you look at the white house, you look at a very powerful position. the white house looks back at congress, they say these are very powerful people. here is the thing, chuck schumer is not the smartest guy in the world. the kavanaugh situation blew up in his face. the president helped win seats, so to chuck schumer. but for chuck schumer the radical left and the senate, the whole kavanaugh thing would not have happened.same with the house of representatives. the radicals are now in charge. every single committee, la, san francisco, baltimore,

manhattan. there is a big country between. they will bbe watching, these are not the brightest light bulbs either. so there are governing opportunities for the minority in the house. and they are certainly governing opportunities for the president and the majority in the senate. here is my concern. unless they're willing to institute the battles, looked at the senate, mitch inmcconnel is there. he always goes we are not going to shut down the government and has taken the most powerful tool, a president has away from him. to control and direct spending when he is house of representatives that is hostile. how do you think this will play out? >> well, i think it's a mistake. if senate leadership takes those tools off the table. it is precisely what they did in 2013. which led us to have to back away from where we were in obamacare. keep the tools on the table so we can win the argument. and force the question, call the question. let's take these things to the american people. not be afraid to run on the

things that -- and try to execute the things we are running on. i think spending is a core issue that we can focus on right now. we failed to balance the budget and do our job when republican had control of the house. now let's get busy doing our job, focus on balancing the budget. we can do that and force the question to the president and the senate republicans, will make us do that. >> no one wants a government shutdown. why is it will read standing up to do what we elected to do, with the american people sent the president to do and congress members to do, why is it somehow shutting down the government, this is -- i don't want it, no one wants it. but i do want to do what we were sent here to do. i want to do what they told us we should do hathey give us the privilege to come sir. let's have that debate. also, what we do is, we do not engage in the debate. let's have wthe debate. i think we can win because we have common sense and the truth on our side. >> isn't the evidence that

doing the right thing is politically smart? >> absolutely. >> every single time. >> i will go further. the conservative things are politically smart too. >> ayes. >> they ran away from principal, trying to cut the baby in half, trying to imitate sort of soft democrats if you will. and so, the base may not have turned out. all this talk about females in the suburbs. i think a lot of people lost is because conservatives have voted in the senate and for governors but they said, what the hell is the house doing? never hurts to do what you say. never hurts to keep your promises. when we do that, it is good politics. >> it works every time. >> we will be right back. karate helps... relieve some of the house-buying... stress. at least you don't have to worry about homeowners insurance. call geico. geico... helps with... homeowners insurance?

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mark: chip roy, jim jordan, chip, you are optimistic about next two years? >> i am absolutely optimistic, i believe in the american people, i believe if you empower the

american people and allow spates to agree to disagree, allow texas to be texas, california to be california and work together, we'll succeed of time, a thousand of people a day move to texas because of freedom. it is place to survive. i had a woman said you have to win this election, we need to save texas from washington, i moved here from california two weeks ago, i got that on trail all of the time, i want optimistic. >> we're americans, we're optimistic, greatest country ever. a scripture verse i love, i believe vast majority of this country believes that fight, finish, keep, we do those, we'll be just fine, we'll continue to be best country ever. mark: a different bible verse, an eye for an eye. >> why does not not surprise me.

mark:en to forget it, chip roy, good luck to you. >> thank you. mark: jim jordan go get them. >> thank you. mark: see you next time on [♪] jesse: welcome to. "watters' world." i'm jesse watters. the migrant caravan arriving at the border and tensions rise as they try to gain access to our country either legally by claiming asylum or crossing illegally. one migrant, a honduran named henry saline as told reporters he told reporters he plans to overwhelm border agents. he says it will be all against one, one against all. all of central