♪ >> we are going to debate later what the best time to eat that turkey is. in the meantime, a lot of news. welcome to "america's news headquarters." >> president trump keeping of his beef with chief justice john roberts. >> and this, former fbi director james comey confirming he got a subpoena from house republicans. who only have a few weeks left to hold hearings, and he is reportedly not the only one. we will tell you was on the lis list. >> rein in northern california after the state's deadliest and

most destructive wildfire ever. >> leland: we begin with this, president trump continuing his dispute with chief justice john roberts of the united states supreme court. you might remember the president called the judge and ruled against his asylum policy, then chief justice john roberts released a statement yesterday, writing there are no obama judges or trumps judges but instead extraordinarily extraof dedicated judges. the president responding on twitter and continuing his response on thanksgiving. making an early morning for kevin corke in west palm beach, florida. hi, kevin. >> we all thought it was going to be a nice, quiet, simple holiday. a little turkey, little dressing, little stuffing. the president very active on twitter earlier this morning. this all stems back to his criticism of a district judge by the name of don tiger who issued

a nationwide injunction effectively halting the president's new policy vis-a-vis asylum seeking south of the border. that got the chief justice talking about it and now there's been this back and forth which we've been talking about all day long. we've seen this before, a lower level judge, making ruling that effectively forced the trump administration to go through the courts before that policy can take effect. the president called that judge, as you said, and obama judge. the chief justice said this, we don't have obama judges, trump judges, bush judges, clinton judges, we have a group doing their best to do equal right to those appearing before them. the independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.

however, given the ninth circuit's well-earned reputation for being progressive and for frequently ruling against the president, he said it is high time that someone called them out for their activism. >> some terrible decisions from the ninth circuit as usual, i don't know if we've ever had a victory in the ninth circuit, we have to appeal and appeal it, the vast number of their decisions get overturned, generally speaking, and it's a shame. it's a shame, it's a disgrace, frankly. essentially they are legislating, some judge sitting in some location very far away is telling our incredible military and law enforcement what to do and it's not right and it's been going on like that for a long time. we have to use some common sense, everybody knows it, it's totally out of control. >> "totally out of control."

describing the ninth circuit court of appeals. let me share this tweet before i let you go, from chairman chuck grassley of the senate judiciary committee, chief justice roberts rebuked trump for a comment he made about a judges decision on asylum. i don't recall the chief attacking obama when that president rebuked justice alito during a state of the union. a snapshot of the intensity that we continue to have as we watch this issue unfold, and i predict, though it is a vacation week, this is something we will be talking about for some time you have to come. leland? >> leland: intensity on thanksgiving, who would've thought. kevin corke, west palm beach, florida, best to you and to christian brown from your fearless producer as well. thanks for working, buddy. >> elizabeth: we are going to bring in our political panel, a g.o.p. strategist and former spokeswoman for california's

republican party and a democratic strategist, thank you both for joining us this thanksgiving day. >> thank you, happy thanksgivin thanksgiving. >> i want to start with you, we now president trump is not a man to back down and he's been rewarded politically for that position but do you think it is wise of the president or politically expedient for him to be going back and forth with such an esteemed member of the court-like justice john roberts? and a conservative justice at that. >> hi, ebony. nobody elected president donald trump to go to washington to tiptoe around the issues or mince words. i can tell you, being from california and working there for the better part of more than a decade and having some campaigns in which we won millions of votes that were later thrown out by the ninth circuit, the ninth circuit court is a joke and there's a reason it's earned its nickname. "the new york times" said in

2010, "the new york times" even said, it's a liberal reputation precedes it and if you look at some of the cases they've passed and overturned, they agreed with atheists that the phrase "under god" should be removed from the pledge of allegiance of the united states of america. >> ebony: >> it's certainly a ll court but is that reputation, well-earned or may be unfair, that it is a liberal court, is that in the president's favor in the sense that it seems to be with this president that he does need some type of foil, whether it's the ninth circuit, nancy pelosi, the mainstream media, something to play against and that only enhances his popularity with his base. >> i think that's actually an incredibly astute statement and i totally agree with you.

he does need that sort of foil when it comes to his policies, that is being thwarted, that is overcoming obstacles and he's out there fighting and doing all these things. you know, i think really -- justice roberts comment was not specifically mentioning the president, it was simply stating what i think, as an attorney, i'm very grateful for. we do have a very good, strong judiciary that is not partisan and they are there to uphold the laws in this country. which is very important and part of the process, the president likes to always be the underdog in these situations, as you sai said. there is a process, whether it's going through the appellate process before the supreme court hears cases, that we have for all of our laws and often the supreme court supreme court and justice roberts have ruled in president trump's favor like they did with the muslim ban.

if people don't agree with him, he goes after them. >> i think it's interesting to point out here, that there are no obama judges or trump judges, that is avoiding that reality. look, the political reality is politicians do appoint judges. look at the turnout. >> ebony: there are studies that do show ideological differences based on what party put someone on the bench can have impact. we like to think our courts are a political end above this partisan divide but unfortunately every but person on those courts is human. tell me your perspective on what we do in this situation, where it seems the president, politically speaking, is to raise awareness to this may be difficult reality that these things do exist when it comes to

ideological and partisan things but it's weighed against the conflict with justice roberts, to keep the court's rather pure around this issue and the fact that our courts are supposed to be looking at the constitution and keeping their personal beliefs and ideologies out of it. what to make of this type of conflict, ladies? >> you want to look at a conflict, i think chief justice roberts has created a conflict within his own self, i would argue that because he's waited into this fight and gauged politically with president trump, he may have to recuse himself in the future if the russian collision investigation were to go all the way to the supreme court, if there is an obstruction of justice case. >> ebony: why would he need to recuse himself? justice roberts cited in favor of president trump's travel ban at the end of last turn. >> if you look at the democrats main critique, that he was too

emotional, to politically charged in that final speech when he came back during the confirmation hearing. >> this is the opposite of what we just saw from justice robert roberts. he did not mention the president by name and he did not mention any comments. >> he didn't have to, everybody in the room knows exactly what he was talking about. it's one thing for the president to wade into politics, that is his job on a daily basis but if support is as strong as chief justice roberts says it is, the court should be able to survive on its own, in its own right, a branch of the government. i don't think he should have weighed in on this, it makes him look like this issue was beneath him to do so. >> he's the chief justice of the supreme court and it is his duty to make sure his judges are being represented properly. and are being put forth because he is the head of a coequal branch of the federal government.

we have three branches, congress, the federal branch that is the president, and the judiciary. >> eboni: is chief justice roberts responsible to make sure that the reputation of all of our country judges is beyond reproach? >> yes. >> they can do so by way of the decisions they deliver from the bench. he should not have weighed in on the political issue, he's a judge and this was beneath him. this is the arena he's chosen to be in. i think justice roberts should have remained quiet on this issue and proceeded to represent the court through their decision and if you ask some judges across the country, they would agree with that. they should let their decision speak for themselves. >> eboni: i am so excited to say that both of you ladies will be joining us later on in the show as we continue to talk.

thank you both, sit tight. we will be back with you shortl shortly. >> leland: saudi arabia blaming its crown prince for the death of jamal khashoggi would cross a red line. as you might've heard, they denied that but the fallout has already started with at least one country stopping sale of military equipment to the kingdom, benjamin hall live from london. good evening, benjamin. >> good evening, leland. ever since tuesday when president trump made his statements on khashoggi, he's been laying out why the relationship of saudi arabia is so important. everything from national kick purity to the fight against iran to the economy and oil prices. he talked about khashoggi and khashoggi's killing specifically, saying this. >> i don't know that anyone will be able to conclude that the crown prince did it, whether

heated or whether he didn't, he denies it vehemently. his father denies it, the king, vehemently. the cia doesn't say they did it. they do point out certain things and pointing out those things, you can conclude that maybe he did or maybe he didn't. >> encouraged by president trump's support, saudi arabia has broken out for the first time since the statement, warning that criticism of crown prince mohammad bin salman is now a red line. yesterday, "presidents don't always get the freedom to work with unblemished partners in all things. we are not going to apologize for our human rights stance, nor are we going to apologize for working with saudi arabia when it's necessary, for the good of innocent people who are in trouble. there are already repercussions

for saudi arabia over khashoggi's murder. today denmark and finland announced they would be holding exports of military equipment to saudi arabia because of khashoggi's murder and because of the worsening situation in yemen. the country that has been most vocal in their opposition to all of this, turkey, have raised the possibility that the president could perhaps meet with mohammad bin salman at the upcoming summit in buenos aires later this month. president trump has also cited iran as one of the major reasons that the relationship with saudi arabia -- today, a top iranian general said that improved missiles have the capability to strike all u.s. bases from afghanistan. perhaps justifying president trump's decision. leland? >> leland: ben hall in london, thank you. we bring in dan hoffman, chief fox news foreign affairs contributor. it pretty rich from going to

murdering this guy to denying it to saying it was a rogue operation and saying if you blame the prince it's a red lin line. >> special thanks to our public servants in the united states and overseas for defending our freedom, there is no question that the saudi conduct in the war as well as the murder of khashoggi has strained our relationship, our bilateral relationship, arguably more than ever in our history. >> leland: what do you make of the arrogance of this regime that is under immense international pressure, the u.s. gives them a way out, we saw president trump there and now they are coming back and going any attempts to bring the crown prince is red line. they must feel like they have the upper hand. >> that's to be expected. i think they understand that there is pressure in congress, it's hard to bring democrats and republicans together but the

kingdom of saudi arabia has done that. there is bipartisan outrage and interest in doing something about it. what i would also highlight is historically there has been a real tension for integrating human rights into our former foreign policy. the congress was promoting human rights, we utterly failed to deal with the human rights abuse in rwanda where there was genocide and i can tell you in pakistan they were a major ally of ours. we deal with human rights and i think it's important, rather than -- i think it's important for us to acknowledge. >> leland: looking at this in a broader sense, obviously you can't pick who your friends are going to be in the world or you can't necessarily tell your friends what they're going to do, then hall made an interesting point, there's a chance at the president of turkey and mds, are going to

meet at the g20 summit. the turks for so long were putting out all these leaks, we kept hearing about all these tapes they had, evidently the head of the cia is listed in some of these tapes and now they've gone totally silent here, what do you make of that? >> they are letting this play out, in part for his own domestic political reasons. he has a lot of support from the muslim brotherhood and that's split with in -- in saudi arabia and muslim brotherhood in turkey, i think he's trying to get maximum benefit from that and for us in the united states, it's about balancing our values and promoting our values and human rights against those national security, economic, and political interest and it's important for us to acknowledge that those human rights abuses are taking place but at the same time as well acknowledge that we've got competing interests that make it extraordinarily

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these would have not happened but we can say that as a result of the failings, potential opportunities to prevent it were missed. >> politicians have been studying all the terrorist attacks that took place in this country in 2017, last year was the deadliest year when it comes to terrorist attacks since 2,005, 13 years ago. they want to see what they could have done better to prevent attacks in the future. at that hearing today, politicians also singled out facebook and google, saying they could do more to police online content. they say that manchester bomber may have learned to make his bombs by watching online videos. back to you. >> eboni: thank you, ryan. leland? >> leland: an american missionary trying to bring religion to a lost civilization has instead wound up murdered. a tribe cut off from the rest of the world killing him in a blood he bow and arrow attack.

now officials are trying to figure out how to recover the victim's body from that remote island without winding up dead or attack to themselves. senior foreign affairs correspondent amy kellogg live on this. hi, amy. >> they are possibly the most isolated tribe in the entire world and they are known for attacking with arrows anyone who approaches them. basically little to nothing is known about their language. negotiating with them about retrieving the body and conducting a murder investigation is going to be very difficult indeed. the island is part of the andamans archipelago. when the tsunami's hit the indian ocean in 2004, they seemed to relish their isolation, apparently they know nothing else. the hunter/gatherer tribe has lived there for thousands of

years, apparently with india, the jurisdiction they fall under, having a hands-off polic policy. access is restricted and food drop-offs are formed from a distance. john allen chau, was a great adventure and i missionary and he knew the risk of going to this island but he really for a long time wanted to bring the gospel to the sentinelese. he paid some fishermen to take them close to the island, he went to the final stretch alone in a kayak. he reportedly said "my name is john, i love you, loves you." the next day, november 17th, he returned bearing gifts including fish and at that point he was killed. leland, it is believed that he is killed by an arrow or arrows, but frankly the cause of death cannot be determined until, and

if, that body is retrieved. police and the rest of the world are going off the account of the fishermen who facilitated the ill-fated trip of this american missionary to the most isolated, and frankly quite dangerous, place in the world. >> leland: the family says look, that's why our son went there, he went there to spend the gospel, we don't want to see anyone charged. it will be unbelievable to see how this turns out. >> eboni: james comey announcing republicans in congress are demanding he testify behind closed doors. says he's happy to talk as long as it's public. >> leland: allegations that matt whitaker may have broken rules involving federal workers in political activity. those next.

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♪ >> eboni: james comey responding to a subpoena from house republicans for a closed-door interview. live in washington with the latest, lauren? >> james comey tweeting this morning confirming he's received the subpoena, adding "i will resist a closed-door thing and i've seen enough of their selective leaking and distortion." he questioned the political nature of the last minute subpoena. a diversions from house rolls and its presumption of transparency, democrats have long wanted any questioning about the 2016 presidential election and the fbi and doj decisions during that time to be in full view. comey has offered to testify before as long as it was open,

republicans, including the chairman of the committee bob goodlatte have insisted that it be a closed-door, however the timing of the subpoena has others questioning the republicans last-minute demands. >> the idea that the republicans took a pretty good hit in the midterms a few weeks ago and one of the reasons was that they were seen as not sufficiently conducting their oversights function, it seems like a bad move both politically and illegally. >> chairman good that is retiring and democrats will soon control the house judiciary committee. the subpoenas will be his final act as chairman. the current top democrat on the committee, jerry nadler, has reportedly said it's unfortunate that the outgoing majority was resorting to these tactics. his attorney confirmed the fbi director has been asked to appear on december 3rd while lynch reportedly has been asked to appear december 4th. >> eboni: thank you, lauren. leland?

>> leland: president trump's acting attorney general facing more controversy, a liberal watchdog group filing complaints about matt whitaker, following this story from washington. hi, allison. >> that group says the office of special counsel opened a case filed to look at acting attorney general matthew whitaker and potential violations of the hatch act. fox news reached out but did not immediately hear back. the hatch act, as many people already know, puts limits on the sort of political activities federal workers can engaged in. whitaker ran for senate in 2014, his campaign committee is reportedly still active and according to nbc filings, received a total of $8,800 from four individual contributors in january and february of this year. mr. whitaker was working for the federal government at that time. in a letter, the office of special counsel watchdog

requested an investigation into the contribution. >> after two years of being completely dormant and only after he joined jeff sessions office as chief of staff, he started receiving a cluster of contributions from former clients of his when he was a lobbyist in iowa. it appears to violate the black letter law of the hatch act. >> american oversight says they've asked at least three different federal offices to look into whitaker. his appointment is controversial, democrats and even some republicans take issue with previous statements he made criticizing the special counsel's russia probe. democrats say president trump fired former attorney general jeff sessions and replaced him with whitaker to try to derail the russia probe. president trump has repeatedly defended his pick for acting ag and he did so again this morning in florida. >> once i choose somebody they go through hell but matt whitaker is a highly respected

man, the justice department respects him tremendously, i've spoken to a lot of people, he's doing a great job, everybody tells me that. >> the executive director of american oversight served on the senior counsel under the obama administration but the group says they are nonpartisan. >> leland: all right, we will follow it. thank you. >> eboni: more, former federal prosecutor, happy thanksgiving. we heard two incredibly detailed reports about all that's leading up to this, it started off with a report saying that james comey as opposed to a closed-door meeting because he's concerned about leaks. to that point, what is your reaction as to why he is so insistent that this hearing be

public? >> i think for the reasons he said, he wants it to be exposed to the public so everybody can see. and frankly i think it would be to the advantage of the committee to hold public hearings, so that all americans can see what the testimony is and what the answers are. >> eboni: what about the other side of what that can cause, i appreciate your point about transparency but some would say the cameras of it all in the message matters, the fact that it is james comey asking for this public display when many would say he was the most media visible, well-known fbi director since hoover. is this james comey wanting more cameras in his face and another opportunity to show about? >> he's been engaging in leaks from day one and doing things he still has to answer for, all the more reason for the public to be able to see what these answers are. and i think he will be on the hot seat, it seems to be most people would like to see what he

has to say. >> eboni: let's say the senate committee does not agree to the public nature of what james comey is wanting, would you recommend the former fbi director agree to a closed-door setting? is the risk of leaks worth avoiding getting his voice on the record, so to speak, on this issue? >> let's make it clear, he doesn't have a choice. he's under subpoena and will be required to show up to the hearing and if they want to keep it private, they keep it private. it seems to me that all of us would like to get some answers and so far he has not provide them and the only way were going to see is if it's done in publi public. >> eboni: john, have a happy thanksgiving. >> including what happened at that meeting between loretta lynch and president clinton. >> eboni: thank you so much. leland? >> leland: forecasters say heavy rains and parts of

northern california could cause flash flooding and mudslides in areas where a wild fire burned away all the plants and trees. live from chico california where we are now seeing the best in humanity after such tragedy. >> happy thanksgiving, leland. it's just amazing to be here. some of these people traveling as far as 16 hours away to be a part of this thanksgiving dinner that's being served up over here, a lot of the traditional dishes, they've spent all morning getting the food ready to serve the folks who have been impacted by the camp fire. 13,000 homes were destroyed in this fire, a lot of people need a place for thanksgiving. these folks trying to give them a slice of that holiday. we spoke to one of the chefs involved and he said he gets more out of it than just serving food, he said part of it is to send a message. >> it's that compassion and the big, heartfelt thing kind of

giving back and it's unfortunate but disasters like this to bring people very close together, communities together and i think this shows that. >> while they continue to serve thanksgiving dinner into the night, we should also mention that in paradise california, lots of search and recovery crews still out there, around 800 people, the death toll hovering around 83 people, the number of unaccounted dropping significantly, standing at 563, first responders are hoping to get that number further and further down, some of those firefighters tell us that yes, it is difficult being away from family and difficult seeing so much devastation but they say this is the place they want to be and they are thankful to see all the things they have. >> leland: well put, and we are thankful for their service as well. jeff, thanks.

do you think about it now, fire season in california as a whole year, these firefighters coming off working days straight are going right back into it. >> eboni: it is truly remarkable, the best of humanit humanity. president trump's lawyers were actually setting up a meeting between the president and special counsel robert mueller. >> leland: word i had what we are learning about why that meeting never happened. we will bring back our political panel for a debate. >> eboni: speaking of debates, the big question looming is what time is too early to chow down on thanksgiving day? we have not missed that window. ♪ it's really this constant juxtaposition when you're a mom and an entrepreneur. with more businesses starting every day, how do they plan for their financial wellness? i am very mindful of the sacrifices that i make. so i have to manage my time wisely.

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mueller's team. it was penciled in for this past january at camp david but according to the associated press, after the special counsel sent a list of topics, the president challenged mueller's authority to question the president. we bring you back to our panel. ladies, nice to see you. this doesn't really change much, in the sense that we all know that democrats are going to say they have summoned to hide, what does it matter whether he sits down or not? >> i think been saying for a year and a half now that he did want to sit down, he is given multiple depositions, that sort of statement begs the question,

what does he have to hide? and debbie doesn't have anything to hide, it will be very easy for him to answer the questions in person and get the whole situation over with. >> leland: no lawyer would advise their client to sit down and give more than is required, right? >> that's right, and if you think things move slowly in the swamp in washington, d.c., one thing that moves more slowly as a special counsel investigation. the ten months that president trump has taken to provide responses to the special counsel is actually not that unusual. that case was brought forward in 1994 and it wasn't until january of 1998, four years later that bill clinton finally sat down for a deposition in that case, he claimed the same privileges that president trump is claiming

here. what's good for the goose is good for the gander. >> leland: if this was a democratic president, they would say, why would they sit down with the special counsel? >> we are talking about events that happened prior to him going into office and contrary to the paula jones situation, i think a more appropriate comparison would be a whitewater situation where he did give depositions and things move forward. the president himself has been saying, and his attorneys said they thought everything would be wrapped up by the end of that year because they were advising him to speak to the special counsel and answer questions and move on. >> leland: the turkey is about to come out of the oven so we have to make this one quick, ladies. >> this administration has cooperated fully and provided about a million pages of documents, president trump has offered up his own legal counsel, his press secretary and

chief of staff to testify and look, president trump did want to testify but i think his mood changed when he saw the treatment of paul manafort and michael cohen compared to how hillary clinton was treated, she was allowed to waltz into the fbi to give a statement without going under oath. >> leland: we may never know. happy thanksgiving to you both, thanks for sticking around for a double duty this hour. >> eboni: you made it to the traffic jams and delayed flight flights, congratulations. >> leland: now you can eat. we are going to check out the travel troubles facing you on the way home. just stick around and eat leftovers. >> eboni: stay another day. it ♪ insurance that won't replace

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can remember. reporting live from our new york newsroom. >> i was outside before, i'm still wearing my turtleneck, they brought me inside. today is the coldest thanksgiving day in new york city in over a century, since at least 19 oh one. the high was 27 degrees today, if you look at the top three coldest thanksgiving high temperatures in new york city history, today would be tied for third with thanksgiving 1882. the coldest was thanksgiving 1871, a high of 22 degrees in the big apple. this morning the temperature was 20 degrees at the start of the macy's thanksgiving day parade, making it the coldest thanksgiving parade ever, beating the record set in 1930 when the temperature was 21 degrees. hundreds of thousands of people lined up along the two and a half mile parade route in the middle of manhattan, wearing hats, scarves, gloves, and huddling together, some for some

six hours in the bitter cold to see some of the famous big balloons. there was a concern the balloons wouldn't fly because of high winds, they did, albeit they were lowered to the ground as a precaution. millions of americans are seeing unusually frigid temperatures for thanksgiving day. record lows were broken in hartford massachusetts and windsor massachusetts. it's extremely cold outside, and also some travel issues. amtrak train 68 from montreal to new york, 278 passengers switch onto the train. stay warm out there. >> leland: the brilliance of brian and his turtleneck. here's the thing, it stretches when you eat a lot. i was complimenting him on his fashionable choice.

it brings up an interesting point. there was a lot of debate about this, what is the ideal time to eat thanksgiving dinner? >> eboni: a premise we have to establish first, do you start your day with breakfast? personally in my family the tradition as you eat nothing all day, you starve yourself until three in the afternoon, and then you eat. >> leland: ideally and ironically, 3 minutes and 45 seconds from right now, that is about the ideal time to eat thanksgiving. thanks for spending your thanksgiving with us. "your world" is next. in southern california, a small family business becomes a beacon of hope. in seattle, people with disabilities create success and shatter barriers. day in, day out,

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