have to fight your way to get it. don't miss my show "justice" at 9:00 p.m. here on the fox news channel. sean hannity will be back with another can't-miss show. thanks for being with us. "the ingraham angle" starts now. >> i'm raymond arroyo sitting in for laura ingraham on this special edition of laura ingraham. president trump is doubling down on conflict and continuity in the final weeks of 2018 laying down the gauntlet over border enforcement. we'll explore his feud with chief justice john roberts. and plus, god is coming up short with americans this year.

we'll examine a new sir -- survey. and i hit the streets on this black friday to see how confident americans are as we enter the biggest buying season of the year. and then in an exclusive "the ingraham angle," mike lyndell, the my pillow guy is here to explain why critics won't scare him from his passion project, including a new movie that he will tell us about tonight. first, the crisis at the border is getting worse. thousands of illegals gather in tijuana planning their next month, which includes a possible human stampede. this as police arrest three dozen migrants on drugs and drunken charges. the mayor of tijuana say they're

in the midst of a human crisis. so now we're asking international and humanitarian groups to carry out assistance. the same time a group of 150 migrants from that massive caravan stormed the border waving a white flag and demanding better conditions claiming they don't have adequate food and housing. i think they forget they are the ones that chose to make the journey. forget that. but tijuana spending $30,000 a day to house and care for them. the president is not mincing words on what will happen if they come to the u.s. threatening to close the border completely. listen. >> if we find it's uncontrollable, josh, if we find that it gets to a level that we are going to lose control or people start getting hurt, we he

close entry into the country for a period of time. >> the whole boreder? >> the whole border. >> the strong stands comes days after what was described as a fiery meeting in the west wing. this meeting resulted in the white house authorizing thousands of troops at the u.s. border, giving them the ability to use force to protect border agents that would allow james mattis to order the thousands of troops to do that, protect border agents. the department of homeland security says there are 500 known criminals in that caravan, 500, headed to the u.s. that's what they know of at this moment. the mexican ambassador to the u.s., geronimo gutierrez is concerned about violence telling the washington examiner that we share the opinion that there are people that have criminal background. yet the media is still trying to

down play the threat. >> there's no evidence, no one in these caravans that have suggested there will be attack or anything, this is the president's continued bluster on this one. >> there's no indication that anyone has funded by terrorist group or really coming in with some sort of plan to cause harm against the united states. >> i as a national security official would want to focus on the actual threats. >> joining me now, brandon judd. he's the president of the national border patrol union, mark kerkorian and seman nesary. brandon, i want to start with you. you were part of the white house meeting that ended with information along the border. is this an invented threat that many in the media are saying? >> absolutely not.

look at the number of people gathering in tijuana that are waiting to come across the border. the threats that they're going to storm the ports of entry, it's a sign that they don't care about our laws, they're going to do what they need to do for their own benefit instead of doing it in a legal manner. when i was in that meeting, what i saw, i saw an unwavering determination to secure the border for the american public, for the safety of the american public. we appreciate that and appreciate that determination the president has. >> and your reaction, seman. this is the head of the border union. he knows what's going on there. your reaction? >> and i think that the conversation shouldn't be so much about the caravan but the caravan sheds light that our immigration system is broken. the fact that this is a real threat is 5,000 people coming to the border, seeking asylum.

why is that -- why isn't the system the issue? these people have not rushed the border. nobody has seen them hurt anybody. so why are we making the people escaping their problems the issue? why don't we try to criticize the immigration system and fix that problem? >> let's hold it there a minute, saman. there's abuses of the asylum system going on. asylum is because you're under persecution, not just because you want a george. mark? >> that's right. i'd say that the broader system is the problem. the system is we have asylum rules that incentivize people to make these bogus asylum claims essentially use asylum as a strategy for immigration. none of these people have a realistic expectation of getting political asylum at the end of the day.

they're doing this to apply for asylum as a way of getting passed the border and then they're home free. this has been going on since the obama administration who incentivized it and we're still dealing with the fallout from it. that's why we have this caravan and other caravans that are doing the same thing. >> this is kirstjen nielsen along the border. listen. >> the reality is, there's currently over 6,200 individuals camped out south of the u.s. border in tijuana today as i stand here. in mexicali, there's more than 3,000 caravan members. the two groups combined with other caravans making their way through mexico will result in president 8,000 to 10,000 migrants amassing along our southern border. the crisis is real and it's on the other side of this wall. >> your reaction.

i want to go to brandon judd. >> again, if you look at this, this is not about legal immigration. it's about illegal immigration. those people are not going to wait until they go through the ports of entry. they will cross illegally. the first act that they make in the united states is an illegal act. that should make everybody a little bit concerned about what is motives are. >> what about the criminal element here? they claim they have 500 criminals as part of these caravans. saman, does that say to you to let them in under the asylum law? >> that's the wrong characterization of the argument. these -- >> it's not a characterization. >> it is. >> no, it's what homeland -- this is what -- >> there's no evidence of that. >> so kirstjen nielsen is lie

something. >> no. they issued a memo saying we need to work with mexico to vet these people, keep them in mexico, go through the asylum process there and take it on a case by case basis and so who qualifies. there's no evidence or no proof that these guys will show up to the port of entry and bum rush it and becoming illegal immigrants. they're coming to seek asylum. some of them really do have a very plausible case. unfortunately they get washed up with the ones because they want a better job. the truth is, there's a handful, a few hundred of them that have a good case that are living in bad conditions that have seen people get murdered, that have had family members gets murdered. i turn away a dozen people that say i can't help you. but every once in a while somebody does have a good case. >> there's no doubt the asylum laws need to be re-visited.

we can't -- my father waited a year in line before he had his papers recognized. then he came with a sponsor and then served in the military. thank you, gentlemen, for your contribution. here now to explore whether the president has the constitutional authority to use u.s. troops to protect the border and on american soil, the border agents, we're joined by donald cramer. a former intelligence officer and iraq veteran, joel ruben, former obama secretary of state. joel,you believe the president was wrong because of the unclear mission. but isn't protecting the southern border and enforcing standing immigration laws mission enough? >> well, ray, there's no mission. there's no military mission

here. there's no clarity about the end point, what the objectives will be. even if there's a technical ability of the president to send the troops there, it's a bad judgment. this president has a habit of using our troops as political problems and that was the intent for this prior to the mid-terms to turn out the vote. the troops are doing nothing, waiting. doing support. we have civilian enforcement that can do the job. we don't need our troops there. >> agenda.

>> laura: >> does the president have the authority here? >> >> these soldiers and sources, they're not law enforcement officials. he does have the right to deploy them. it's his right as commander-in-chief to support this country, whether it's in humanitarian aid or supporting the borders.

president did it, president reagan did it, president bush did it. it's his right and he has to protect this country. >> joel, your reaction. >> i believe that we could find the $100 million on spending the troops to send it to the countries the help stabilize them. >> neil: you don't believe there's a national -- >> i believe our agents from dhs are capable of handing this. we don't need troops at the border now being authorized to shoot at a caravan. majority of them are women and children in camps. >> it's not all women and children -- >> the majority are. >> you have people with weapons. they're being arrested by the tijuana government. >> and the police can hander that. an orderly process. a process in place is working and should work.

we don't need military troops there to enforce the process that is already being executed properly. >> donald, your thoughts? do we need the troops or not? or is trump playing fast and loose here? >> no, we need the troops. cbp is 80% undermanned. if the troops can support them so the officers can do their job, it's important. if they're observing and providing support, let them do their jobs so they can do what they're hired to do. >> i'll give you a shot at this. should the president close the border down? does he have the authority to do so? donald and joel. 10 second each. >> whether or not he should or should not, that remains a question as we look forward to the caravan. does he have the authority? absolutely. it's his right to defend our borders and protect the united states citizens. >> joel, if he believes there's a national security threat, clearly he can close down the border. >> national security threat

should be dealt with but it's an american value to allow people seeking asylum to come here. >> we let a million people in as citizens. that shows the welcoming spirit of america. the president has a spat with the ninth court of appeals and now he's taking heat in his own circle. the story next. >> the ninth circuit is out of control. what they're doing, what they're saying, the opinions are unfair to law enforcement, very unfair to our military.

>> raymond: welcome back to the special edition of "the ingraham angle." we look at the president's conflict and continuity in the final weeks of 2018.

he's not backing down in his war of words with supreme court chief justice roberts and escalating the feud with the liberal ninth circuit court of appeals that just ruled against his administration's asylum policy. watch. >> we have a lot of bad court decisions from the ninth circus, which is a big thorn in our side. but it's a terrible thing when judges take over your protective services when they tell you how to protect your border. it's a disgrace. >> raymond: the president's dispute with roberts in the ninth circuit show any signs of resolution or is this just the beginning? kevin corke takes us through the last four 8 hours where he's covering the president's vacation. kevin? >> raymond, good evening. this back and forth stems from the president's comments about the injunction to stop the

asylum policies. we talked about this, you have the lower level judge and an obama appointee forcing the court to do something. the president calls this a obama judge. the chief justice weighed in saying we don't have obama judges. we have an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their best to do equal right to those appearing before him. the independent judiciary is something that we should all be thankful for. however, given the ninth circuit's well-earned reputation for being progressive and ruling against the president and his policies, he said it's high time that someone called them out for their judicial activism. >> we're getting terrible decisions from the ninth circuit as usual. i don't know if we ever had a victory there.

we have to appeal it, appeal it. a vast number of their decisions get overturned generally speaking. it's a shame. it's a shame. it's a disgrace, frankly. essentially they're legislating and it's not right. it's been going on like that a long time. we have to use common sense. the ninth circuit, everybody knows it's totally out of control. >> online, chuck grassley said this. he said chief justice roberts rebuked trump for a comment that he made about a judge's decision on asylum. i don't recall the chief attacking obama when that president rebuked justice alito during a state of the union. clearly a snapshot of the intensity of this debate, especially as it involved this administration and the ninth circuit. raymond? >> thank you, kevin. joining me now, three legal experts, former u.s. attorney joe degenvena, david cats and

criminal defense attorney, jonah spillborn. jonah, your reaction to chief justice roberts scolding the president and insisting there's no partisan judges, joe. >> well, i think the chief justice's comments were blatantly inappropriate. he injected himself in a political discussion about the effect of the court. he never should have done that particularly after the debacle of the kavanaugh hearings. the chief justice arrogantly and i underscore that, stepped into it was a major mistake by the chief justice and he has been quiet because he made a terrible mistake. whatever he thought of the president's remarks, it's in not his responsibility to rebuke the president of the united states, which is what he was doing. after sitting there in january

of 2010 and listening to president obama rebuke him and the rest of the supreme court for their decision in citizens united when he said absolutely nothing to defend the integrity and independence of the court, for him to get involved in this was absolutely abysmal judgment. >> raymond: joe, i want to show people that moment. you referenced it. senator grassley as well. this is 2010 when president obama publicly called out the supreme court's citizens united ruling and wrongly state add few facts. watch. >> with all due deference to separation of powers, last week the supreme court reversed a law that i believe will open the flood gates for special interests. including foreign corporations. alito was sitting there go, no, no, no. why do you think he said nothing

then, joe? and he's speaking out now? why this moment? >> it's very simple. president obama was a democrat. president trump is a republican. john roberts' judgment in this is so abysmal. so bad. so apparently political in its motivation, so opportunistic. it really is appalling. i'm embarrassed for the court. i feel very sorry for the other members of the court. i really think the chief justice made a major mistake with regards to it. talk about he himself now has undercut the independence of the court by becoming involved in a political discussion. it's a very sad day for the court. >> raymond: thank you, joe. john, your reaction. do you agree with joe? you think this is raising the political temperature rather than lowering it? >> 100%. the chief justice is talking out

of school. yes, we have obama judges, clinton judges. where was the chief justice when ruth bader ginsberg was calling the president a fake a phony and openly criticizing him? where was the rhetoric then? it did not exist. >> raymond: david, your thoughts. >> chief justice roberts is one of the most admired public servants in the america. someone had to come to the defense of the judiciary. we have an independent judiciary which is the crown jewel -- >> this is not the first time a president has called out the supreme court. jefferson, madis with their appointees. what will happen this time? the justice is speaking back. >> i guess president lincoln increased the court to ten. they don't call that court packing. president lincoln increased the supreme court to 10. it's come and gone. the important thing to remember here is that that judge in

san francisco cannot speak up for himself or his decisions. someone had to speak up for the third branch of the government. that's what chief justice roberts did. he did it well and he wasn't arrogant at all. >> raymond: chuck schumer came out with a tweet supporting, surprise surprise john roberts. he writes, i don't agree very often with chief justice roberts, especially his partisan decisions which seem highly political on citizens united. but i am thankful today that he almost alone among republicans stood up to president trump for an independent judiciary. is that what his role is? to stand up to the president? >> no. absolutely not. if we're going to have an independent judiciary, if we're going to be one big happy nonpolitical family, the chief justice should not have said a word. he almost contradicted himself by the fact that he said what he said. >> raymond: david, you don't

think we have activist judges anywhere? >> i'm a defense attorney now. i go to court -- >> raymond: you worked for the reagan administration. you don't think there's activist judges? i pulled this. judge carlton reeds struck down the 15-day abortion ban in mississippi. he overruled the entire legislature there, the entire state's will and he said men are involved in this. who created roe v. wade? nine guys. >> if you don't like a decision, you go to the court of appeals. this decision was from a district court judge. it's not been to the ninth circuit. it can be a mixed bag -- >> raymond: should it be broken up? trump wants to. >> no. >> it would be a great idea. this is travel ban deja vu all over again. trump will succeed when this goes up. >> raymond: very good. thank you both for being here. thank you, joe, for your

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>> raymond: welcome back. president trump is gearing up for a fight with congress over funding for a new border wall. with the migrant caravan knocking on the southern border, the president believes we need it now and couldn't be more urgent. >> could happen. over border security. the wall is just a part of

border security. very important. probably the most important part. could have be a shut down? certainly could. it will be about border security, of which the wall is a part. >> raymond: is a shut down looming? here to react, david berstein, ceo of run for america and audria decker, a conservative commentator. audria, does the president have enough support to get the border wall fund something he couldn't get it last time. >> his job is to enforce the laws on the books. the fact is, we have borders in our nation. people can't just decide they're going to cross over without permission. we need a system in america that is fair to the people waiting in line and to also the people that want to come over. absolutely. he needs to do whatever he needs to to secure the border. >> raymond: the republicans haven't joined him. there's a unity in the caucus, this is congressman pete king

talking about this government shut down and who it might hurt. watch. >> i strongly support funding the border wall, but i don't believe we should shut the government down. we have an obligation to keep the government going. politically, this would play into the hands of the government. the wall won't be built and won't be funded and we'll be blamed for it. >> raymond: will it hurt republicans? >> yes. people voted for change. people voted for action. shutting down the government is not what people are looking for. being president, there's a responsibility to get it done. >> raymond: didn't hurt when newt gingrich did it. they turned out well. what is paul ryan? where not in his final act as speaker and with this caucus, many people are leaving, why not support the president in this promise he made to the american people that got many elected the last time? >> the republicans should be fighting for this and they're not. part of the reason why trump brought this up, he's a great

negotiator. we know that he has to push the republican party to take action on important issues. this is an issue that president trump ran on and got elected on. the american people want to see this happen. >> raymond: it's almost christmas time. let's run through the gop lame duck wish list. this is what they hope to accomplish. they want to get a 10% tax cut. they want building the border wall. stopping birth right citizenship. cutting off aid to central american nations and protecting pre-existing conditions. will any of that get accomplished? david? >> well, i think maybe one or two of them will. seems that people find their political energy in the last days when they suddenly -- after their constituents say they don't want them there. >> raymond: 15 legislative days, 12 in the house. that's not an eternity. >> it's amazing that there seems to be three months where nobody could find anything to do except campaign and now in the last 15

days there's a list of priorities. >> raymond: we'll get it done. the democrats have a lot to get to, audria. here's what they're planning. they have put forward their own wish list. it includes looking at the president's tax returns, his family business, trump's dealing with russia. the stormy daniels payment and the james comey firing and there's more things coming about ivanka's phone calls. this could go another ten minutes. your thoughts here. are we talking about gridlock? >> yeah. i don't think is beneficial for the democratic party either. let's take about issues that americans care about. let's have a real discussion about the issues and principles and see where we fall on them. let's have deals negotiated in congress on behalf of the american people. stop going after trump. put out your solutions and your policy ideas. >> raymond: i'm going to turn to 2020. the democratic contenders are beginning to emerge. former vice president joe biden is at the top of the list.

33% of democrats like him according to that last cnn poll. there you can see the huge field. this looks like the brady bunch on viagra. they're just exploded. your thoughts, who will take the lead here, david? >> this is going to be a very tough race. if i have to look at anyone, i saw a picture of the rock. so i think of the rock runs, he's probably got the best shot, this is -- democrats do well to consolidate early and not let this be a repeat of 2016 where they end up in a situation with one person that will be the loudest like president trump was -- >> raymond: people heard him. >> and dominate everybody else -- >> raymond: 46% of voters think president trump will win again. 47% don't in the last cnn poll. those are good numbers. who would you like to see the dems run against trump? >> it's interesting. keep an eye on senator cory booker and senator harris or

o'rourke out of texas. this election will come down to values. i think it's going to be about values. president trump proved that. people voted for trump, not for his personality but for the values. people are divided. >> raymond: it will be about competency and safety and how this economy ends up. before we go, i have to get your reactions to this. liberal film maker michael more that called on people to put their bodies on the line to stop the president is now calling for the shunning of trump supporters. watch this. >> you can't build a bridge to a racist or misogynist. they have to be shunned and treated like we treated smokers 20 years ago, ten years ago. racists and misogynists shunned. >> raymond: so all trump supporters should be shunned. your reaction? >> name calling doesn't help. we have to have a conversation where both sides come together. maybe disagree but do it

respectfully and civility. that kind of rhetoric is divisive and dangerous. >> raymond: it's silly, david. remind me the attacks on a charlie brown christmas that critics are saying you're racist, charlie brown. there's franklin at the other side of the table, this is really -- isn't this too far? the use of race to demonize people. a whole swath of americans? >> yes. we've gone to far. it's this time of year where everybody is coming together. i hope people in washington can find it in their hearts ho say let's work together. >> raymond: look at that. in the break, cumbaya. a surprising new survey that americans find meaning of faith. more next. the hard work you put into lowering your very high triglycerides with diet and exercise deserves the hard work that went into the science behind vascepa.

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>> raymond: with the holiday season in full swing, pugh research asked where do you find your meaning in life? according to this research study, the majority of americans, 69% say family, surprisingly, faith comes fourth at 20%. joining me now to discuss the family research council president, tony perkins and heman neta, the editor of friendly atheists. thanks for being here. your reaction to this. tony? does this beseech a dwindling of

faith, god and faith as a meaning of life sinking in the polls? >> i'm thrilled by this, that family is so high ranked in this survey. family is where they get their sense of meaning. that's a positive revival of family, if you will. i think if you look at how the economy is doing in the united states, unemployment is low, it's not surprise that religion drops down lower in this list. it's still fourth. that's still good what is happening in other industrialized nations. when there's a downturn in the economy, that's when people turn to religion. so from a theological standpoint, it's troubling. >> and your reaction? >> it should be troubling for religion. doesn't surprise me that people find meaning in family and

experiences and what actually surprised me the least about this is when they looked at young people specifically, i think faith became less of a meaningful experience for people who were younger than the age of 30. so it shows that faith has a lot of trouble moving regardless of what the situation is. >> hemant, all the studies that i've seen, faith comes to people as they age in life. as they encounter challenges and they deepen their understanding of the world and get out of themselves. right, tony? >> raymond: what jesus taught is seek first the kingdom of his god and all of these things will be added unto you. when you set your eyes on the things on this earth, you miss the bigger things. as you live for those things that are transcendent, all the other things fall into place.

as people get older, they teal with life and considering what happens after this life, there is more of a turn toward religion. they want to make sure that they make the right decision. >> raymond: people that said that faith was important, it was the most meaningful thing. they feel it deeply. >> that's a small group of people. again, when so many young people are finding more value in people they love and the ability to make the most of the one life that they have, they're not going to resort to religion later in life. that's a very optimistic spin that has no bearing in reality. >> that's been a progression for decades. it's not a small percentage. look at black and white protestants, 6 out of 10 say religion is top for them. the divide is idealogical. the one thing that is encouraging, going back to this, it's a time to be happy --

>> raymond: very quickly. >> family is top priority. that's a good thing. >> raymond: i want your thoughts on this, gentlemen. nature magazine, the science magazine, came out against president trump's proposal to identify sex based on strictly bay logical criteria. nature tweeted this. editorial, the u.s. department of health and human services proposes to establish a legal definition of whether someone is male or female based on the genitals that they were born with. this has no foundation in science and should be abandoned. really? hemant, you think it should be abandoned? >> this administration says they don't care about what scientists say. they trust people like tony that base their -- >> raymond: wait a minute. your genitalia, the way you were

born, that tells your sex. >> that is the lead -- >> look, look, listen. this is what happens when people can't defend their position. they begin attacking the opposition. the reality is, we base law and policy on fact. on science. on biology. not subjective feeling what the trump administration is doing here is re-establishing what was in place for probably 50 years through the 1964 and 72 nondiscrimination acts where sex is based on biology. >> we learn more as time goes on. this administration cares about science, they should talk to the people that study this for a living. look at organizations -- >> if that is true, the facts would be on the side of nature magazine. >> raymond: it's a magazine, not this people that to this -- >> i don't need an education on science for someone that is known for rejecting it all the

time. >> raymond: when you look down and see what your kid is born with, that's biological and scientific to me. thanks, gentlemen. wish we had all day. you can see them in the commercial breaks of this show. the my pillow guy is moving to film. michael lindell is here to explain his latest project. and i go to the streets of new york city to see how black friday impacts shoppers. stay here. >> the economy is doing great. everybody should be excited. come on. it's awesome! this isn't just any moving day.

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>> raymond: welcome back to "the ingraham angle." raymond arroyo sitting in for laura ingraham.

who doesn't know the pillow good night? mike lindell is a born again christian conservative. joining me now exclusively is mike lindell to tell us about this new film. it's called "unplanned." it's a pro life film. years ago i interviewed abby job son, the centerpiece of this film. tell me about it and why did you decide to bank roll it? >> well, they reached out to me. they said you want to do a cameo? would you like to get behind this film? it was all anti-abortion, anti-planned parenthood. i prayed about it. i said i'm all in. it was interesting, the cameo i had, i get down there to do this filming and they said mike, we're going to bring in a stunt double. i don't want a stunt double. i want to do my own thing. >> raymond: what do they have you doing? jumping out of cars?

what are you doing? >> i'm riding a bulldozer. you have one shot at this. there's like 300 or 400 extras. brings down the planned parenthood sign. i'm getting out of the bulldozer. all the producers had to decide because i said i want to do my own stunt. i don't want to go on fox and say i had a stunt double. >> raymond: now the truth can be told, mike. tell me, this is not going to be your only forray into films. you financed another movie coming out from crack addict to ceo. it concerns somebody's personal biography. who might that be? >> yeah, my book will come out first. another reason that i got into films. i wanted to make getting involved with quality, amazing movies that have a message. when my book comes out, it's called out, what are the odds from crack addict to ceo?

if anyone doesn't know, i have an amazing story. i used to be a crack addict. this will send a powerful message about abortion, being pro life. everything starts at conception. it's going to be amazing. it's an awesome movie. comes out march 22. >> raymond: mike, very quickly, what was the one thing -- we only have a few seconds here. what was the one thing that turned your life around? what was it? >> jesus. >> raymond: that's a pretty good answer. >> jesus christ. >> raymond: my final question. do you get a free my pillow when you buy tickets to the movies? >> no. but if you do get one, you'll be sleeping well. >> raymond: i knew you would get a plug in. thanks, mike. talk to you soon. the biggest black friday in history is coming to a close. the national retail federation

says a record 116 million shoppers were set to hit stores today. that's up 63% from last year. i hit the streets of new york to see how the booming economy might be helping. watch. >> i'm not holding back. i do feel a little better about spending this year and i feel like many are the same. there were stores that are like 50% off. that's a good teal. i'll go any time they say it's 50% off. i do feel better about shopping. great sales to be had. we've taken advantage of them. >> what did you get? >> many things. yeah. >> oh, my for. we're having a great time. we're spending the weekend in the city and having a blast. we're celebrating this year. >> personally, with this economy, are you holding back? >> no. i'm splurging. >> why?

>> the economy is doing well. >> it was crowded. for sure. >> how do you feel about the economy? are you holding back or do you want to splurge a little more? >> we're going to splurge more. the economy is doing great. everybody should be excited about the economy. come on. >> are the says better this year than last year? >> absolutely. yes. >> what did you get? new uggs? >> yes. >> check out her watch. she got a fossil watch. >> raymond: i feel like vanna white. what did you get? >> i got some uggs. she was in the parade yesterday. i wanted uggs to commemorate. >> never splurge. >> i always splurge. >> raymond: doesn't matter? >> doesn't matter. >> raymond: how do you feel the economy is doing? >> awesome. i'm a small business owner. it's doing really well. >> raymond: what did you buy?

jacket for mom. what is this? >> a jacket. >> goodies. >> raymond: well, good. are the sales better this year than last year? >> yeah. much better. so many more people out today than ever. >> happy holidays and merry christmas. which do you prefer? >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> raymond: happy holidays or merry christmas? >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> raymond: merry christmas. do you refer happy holidays or merry christmas? >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> raymond: when you're a small business, do you prefer happy holidays on merry christmas? >> merry christmas. both. there's a lot of holidays celebrated. but it's special to me to say merry christmas. >> merry christmas! >> happy holidays. >> raymond: i like both.

>> i know they're great sales but i'd rather have my money in a roth ira. everyone needs to open up a retirement account. >> raymond: who put you up for this? who do you work for? >> i come from iowa. i believe in saving. >> raymond: well, it's not a black friday. it's very bright. stay tuned. tonight's last bite after this. ♪averlife did you know not all fiber is the same? try citrucel. it gently relieves occasional constipation by absorbing water to make stools easier to pass, without causing excess gas or bloating. help relieve occasional constipation with citrucel.

>> raymond: well, it's time for the literal last bite. last night, the saints whooped the falcons and then they indulged in a thanksgiving tradition or is that a falcon leg? >> go ahead. i want to hear how they are. is that all right? >> raymond: save one for me. only in new orleans, do you get a second line parade at a who dat walmart. watch this. >> raymond: does this sort of thing happen? after you bury the body, you celebrate they have gone home to god. with christmas upon us, may i

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