[national anthem] ♪ >> president trump is addressing the crisis on our southern border and calling for funding of the border wall. >> once these guys come back from thanksgiving he should keep the 115th congress up on capitol hill when democrats come in. >> another huge of group from another country flying a flag to enter our country. that doesn't look like people seeking asylum. >> this is not about legal immigration. this is about illegal immigration. >> comey and attorney general loretta lynch have both been subpoenaed to testify behind closed doors next month. >> i have really been disappointed what he has

done since he has left. telling us one thing behind the scenes at closed hearings and giving a totally different impression when he was out in public. >> president trump is continuing to call on the senate to pass a major reform bill. >> now is the time to get it done because should they have to revisit this when nancy pelosi is wielding the gavel, then it's going to be a much worse bill. >> up in the air and now loose on the ground and oklahoma has it. ♪ yeah, yeah ♪ pete: are those ornaments? does that mean it's christmas? by the way i was going to say it's not christmas yet. post thanksgiving. still eating leftovers, right? rachel: absolutely. we are going to talk about leftovers later on by the way. pete: we need. to say. rachel: it's my daughter's favorite song by meghan

trainer. griff: saturday after thanksgiving pete is back. pete: i do work on the weekends saturday and sunday. really difficult workweek saturday and sunday. griff: holiday lights and trees out back fox square and pete back in the chair. pete: great to have you here. rachel: all have our family with us this weekend in new york. pete: lots of kids and lots of festivities is the way it should be. there is a lot of kids, you might say, but a lot of people in a certain city looking for guidance what might happen next. griff: big news is still the caravan and the situation on the border. the president clearly making that a priority but we're hearing also what's changed in this is the mayor of tijuana, juan manuel gaston and what changed and surprise sod many in this story he, as so many of the small towns and cities

throughout mexico when i was with them for 13 days, trying to deal with this large grouch four or 5,000 migrants moving across. here is a tweet from the mayor quote, excuse me. he says we don't have sufficient and necessary infrastructure to adequately attend to these people to give them a decent space. now, let me try and put that in context in all of the small towns we went all the way across. this is such large group. population was only 1,000 and 1500. this is larger than the whole city. they don't have the resources. this group has gotten to the border in tijuana. that's why the mayor is not only putting the quote out. he is asking for the united nations human rights commission to give them support. give them money he says ultimately mayor gasleum i will not spend tijuana citizens tax dollars for this crisis that's arrived at my border. and, of course, president

trump also weighing in for that tweeting this yesterday. calling for bipartisan support on the border saying republicans and democrats must come together finally with the major border security package which will include funding for the wall after 40 years of talking, it's finally time for action. fix the border, for once and for all, now. will they fix it, rachel? rachel: it's interesting. on december 7th there is a partial spending bill that's going to be coming up. the president, i think, is bringing a lookout of attention to it. he hasn't -- and this is not a political stunt. this is what he ran on. what's interesting and what will be fascinating to see if the media picks up on this. they did not report on the protest in tijuana and of these places where the caravan has come where people from those mexican towns, mexican citizens are going hey, we don't like this. our crime is increasing. our resources are getting strained. a lot of same things we say on this side of the border. the media has not been reporting it this is now getting to a point or a

threshold where they're going to have to start reporting this. pete: they really are good on the tijuana mayor for saying this. it's the type of things angela merkel wouldn't say for a long time. rachel: right. pete: she covered it up, the refugee crisis in her own country. i can't handle this. i'm calling on the mayor of mexico. what will our congress ever do if anything there is a loft frustration, rachel, to your point. republicans have had control for two years. rachel: right. pete: this president is serious about this issue. will they spend the time in this lame duck session to actually try address it. rachel: some of the media has covered it. just knot a lot. certainly it goes against the narrative that has been out there. so it's been very muted. back to your question about the funding. look, i think he sending out warning signals. i could shut down the government commodities 7th. the question will be who will get the blame.

because there will be republicans by the way, especially on the senate side who might not want to sign that bill to include border wall funding. so, will the president get the blame or will all this attention on the border and seeing it happening on the mexican side and the american side make people go, you know what? this is a president who is finally trying to do something that everybody else said they were going to do and never did. griff: great point. media has reported on it but not to the extent it is put in pure context we had a year ago the caravan came. it proved a problem we have got. the president has stayed on top of finding that solution. now it has come to a head and it is unavoidable any way you come from this perspective. you are going to have to deal with this. pete: it's a real problem. deroy murdock was on this channel yesterday had this to say about a potential for

a government shut down. listen. >> one could shut down the government. second thing once they come back from thanksgiving, he should keep the 115th congress up on capitol hill until january 3rd when democrats come in and vote, vote, vote and litter his desk with immigration and other things. other message that has to go out rush across the border. you want to come to america do what my mother and father did when they left to costa rica. they went to the u.s. embassy and filled out applications. fill out the paperwork. if you want to come to america ring the front doorbell don't break in through the window. pete: great point. hear with democrats in charge. if you want to talk about that. if you are going to be comprehensive, it better include a wall. i feel like supporters for this president time and time again, it's about time that the showdown and shut down actually happen. the republicans actually stand up for what they say they are going to believe. i'm fearful now that they are in a lame duck session they will yap about it a lot

and they won't do it. when democrats take charge we wanted a wall. you had your chance. why didn't do you anything? this is an important point to point out to republicans. rachel: important point that deroy brings up about immigrants. often immigrants and the children of immigrants who are most upset about this because they understand that doing it the right way is by the way why a lot of them left their own country. they want rules and law and order. pete: that's a great point. griff: i think you guys have lost your mind. you are completely out of sync with the great murphy brown who has returned to television. she is back. she plays her same role and she has a morning show instead of the investigative show she had in the 1980 and 1990s. this is hollywood clearly taking on. pete: this is on thanksgiving evening this is murphy brown. watch. >> we received a call from a neighbor here about a taco

truck parked in a residential area. noticed the taillights crack ran the plates. seems the truck belongs to carlos and maria gonzalez. immigrants order for removal. >> you can't barge in here like this. i know you you are used to dealing with people scared and vulnerable. if you don't get out of this truck, i will s patch cock you. >> what do they do except give up everything. except grow up in a country we thought was the most compassionate place in the world? >> sorry, kid, we are just following government orders. chuck chuck if that isn't enough she was going to take a spat spatula to them. she is a morning show. she went on a fictional morning show how she responded to it. watch. >> actually, i'm going to go off script for a minute, i normally don't tell personal stories on the air. but something happened yesterday. i can't imagine what it's

like for parents to be separated from their child when i watched it happen to friends of mine. watching what i did yesterday might have given me a real reasonable to lose faith in my country. i refuse to believe that we have become so jaded that we feel nothing when we see these human beings experiencing such heartache. there has to be a way to fix this. we can do better. we will do better. pete: you are with your family. it's thanksgiving and you turn that on and you sigh basically law and order, anti-law enforcement advertisement on cbs this idea that these ice officers are doing their jobs are the criminals. are the terrible americans for enforcing the law. it is the manifestation of our current debate played out in hollywood. griff: i was disappointed

dan quayle wasn't in the role. rachel: this is hollywood's narrative on this. if you don't feel something for -- and the other side doesn't have compassion for those trying to come. it's absolutely false. we all understand why they want to come across the border. we all understand why they want to take the risk. the question is do we as a country want to encourage that because it creates a lot of problems. like the ones that you are seeing in tijuana like the ones seeing on this side of the border. that's the narrative. you must not have a heart if you're for the wall, if you are for law and order, if you are for securing the border, you must be a heartless person. griff: you just hate brown people. rachel: there is racist component. griff: in fairness to hollywood, they are often the forum that challenges our social norms. in this case the episode takes two leaves of absence which is one the president has changed his family separation policy.

so right now that is not in place that would be applicable, that she is talking about. and, two, it is a debate now about the rule of law. it isn't an issue that we're -- i mean, the type of truck, i get it, it's very dramatic and the young man and you can't but help that and feel some compassion for it. but she is playing down the rule of law aspect of it. pete: of course. pete: want to know what you think friends at foxnews.com. pete: as griff said email us at friends@foxnews.com. rachel: we begin with a fox news alert. american hero killed in action. military -- further details surrounding the incident are not yet available. this is the ninth american killed in action in afghanistan this year. earlier this month, major brent taylor was killed in an insider attack in kabul. former cia and nsa director

michael hayden is in the hospital after suffering a stroke. hayden is receiving expert medical care arrested according to a statement by his family. he led the nsa for president bill clinton and george w. bush. he then led the cia until his retirement in 2000. those are your headlines. pete: we certainly wish him the best. griff: all right. president trump pushing for bipartisan support on major criminal justice reform. why our next guest says it's important to pass it before democrats take over the house. pete: we will see. georgia democrats calling for another investigation against another one governor elect brian kemp. this time for a crime of fashion, they say. ♪ ♪

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pete: welcome back after very short break. president trump urging senate to come together to pass a major prison reform bill tweeting this and i quote: really good criminal justice reform has a true shot at major bipartisan support. mitch mcconnell and have a real chance to do something so badly needed in our country. already past with a big vote in the house would be a major victory for all. can democrats and republicans actually get this done? we're going to ask niger innis. thanks for being here this morning. >> thanks, pete. pete: it has passed the house. it has not passed the senate. will it pass and what are the impediments at this point. >> the impediments are you have a group of conservatives within the republican caucus led by, i would say, the variety. pete: tom cotton, ted cruz? >> tom cotton is one of them as well. and they have serious objections to the senate

bill. but pragmatically speaking it's a little too little. too much aclu of the coalition pushing for criminal justice reform. pragmatically speaking, look, i'm a law and order republican, too. but, pragmatically speaking, the house version that passed is a lot more conservative, it's a lot more to their liking. the senate bill is a little -- you know, fears a little bit more to the left. pete: yep. >> but the practicality is if they don't pass criminal justice reform now and have some type of compromise bill something in between the house version and the senate bill, then you're going to have a situation where, instead of this conservative criminal justice reform bill that was passed by the house, you're now going to have to negotiate with nancy pelosi, the likes of maxine waters, you know, all expired and having fires lit to their butt by folk like

alexandria ocasio-cortez. pete: you are saying you have your best chance in conference where the two bills meet with a more conservative house bill. >> that's right. pete: let's talk about the senate bill. the first step act here is what it would do eliminate so-called stacking regulation. judges can reduce mandatory minimum for nonviolent drug offenders. change the three strikes you're out penalty from life in prison to 25 years. what is it about the senate bill that is not to their liking? >> well, cotton and mike lee, senator mike lee out of utah had a very interesting -- very vigorous exchange. you can call it a twitter battle if you will that national review covered. and tom cotton's concerns are that, you know, when they label folk nonviolent offenders, it includes individuals, according to cotton, that actually committed acts of violence

against police officers, including using violent weapons. there are a variety of concerns. what i say to senator cotton, to senator cruz, that have, you know, these are good men, principled men that have legitimate concerns. let mitch mcconnell bring it to the floor. let's have vigorous debate about it if cotton sees something wrong with the senate version, ask for some amendments. put some amendments on there but now is the time to get this done because god for bid the senate has to negotiate with the house. right now you have got a situation where if the senate passes something, you can have a reasonably conservative criminal justice reform bill. if the far left wing house comes in january, then you are talking about taking. pete: the far left wants open borders their mind set is totally different. >> exactly. pete: this comes down to mitch mcconnell. is he going to bring this

forward? >> i hope so. you know, you have the most extraordinary coalition of conservatives and liberals. you have got liberal groups like the aclu that are in favor of it. but you also have the fraternal order of police. the largest police union in the country. you've got christian conservative, extraordinary coalition. christian conservatives that are promoting criminal justice reform along with small government libertarians that are promoting this. so, you bipartisan multi-ideological since the civil rights movement of the 1960's. with that kind of pressure and the christian conservative led by ralph read are doing an active campaign particularly going after cotton and senator cruz to try to persuade them to at least push mitch mcconnell to get it on the floor. pete: of course something barack obama not able to do in his time in office as well. niger, thanks very much for

your time this morning. >> thanks, pete. pete: we're going to ask some kind of last stand. will it be jeff flake's last stand? how the outgoing senator could block the end of the push to confirm the president's judicial nomination. our next guest's son was killed by illegal immigrant. he reminds us the real life consequences of taking in migrants, next. ♪ applebee's bigger, bolder grill combos are back. now that's eatin good in the neighborhood.

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protecting the mueller investigation before he leaves. promised to block judicial nominations until the bill comes to a vote. flake is likely to block needed votes for critical nominees like north carolina's thomas far. griff, down to you. griff: thank you. all right. texas rising at the border as thousands of migrants arrive on door steps. rachel: media down plays concerns overblown. what are the real life consequences of illegal immigration. griff: our next guest's son drew rosenberg killed by illegal immigrant in 2010 and has strong words for those who want open borders. rachel: john rosenberg advocate of victims for illegal alien crime.

he joins us now. welcome, dan. >> hi, rachel, hi griff, how are you doing? griff: we're good. we're better than you, don. you've suffered what is such a big story right now and had you to spend thanksgiving without your son and i know that must have been tremendously difficult. but, as this debate rages across the country, what would you like to say? what would you like the country to know both about this debate we're having and your son, drew? >> >> well, you know, the most important thing is that we are a welcoming country and people should be able to come here. they have to come here legally. they have to be vetted. they can't be released into the country until all of that happens because most of them particularly when they come in on asylum, they disappear. some may show up for their hearings when they get their deportation order they don't leave. right now there is almost a quarter of a million illegal aliens in federal prisons

and state and local prisons and jails. and they have committed probably close to 2 million crimes. so, when you hear people talking about oh, you know, they commit less crimes than native born a, that's not true but, b, i really don't care because none of the crimes that they have committed should have happened. my son should be alive he was in the prime of his life. second year in law school and had everything to live for. and, you know, when i hear these advocates talking about oh, separating kids from their parents. well, it's temporary. we just had our eighth thanksgiving without my son, his eighth anniversary was november 16th. so, i don't want to hear anybody talking about they are temporarily separated. i have no tears for them whatsoever. rachel: so a lot of democrats and especially the media as well on many other networks you are saying that

the border caravan doesn't really pose a threat. that this is just political theater. what do you say to that? >> well, look, you know, there is a lot of arguments as to how many people are there. we know there are thousands and we know there are thousands more coming. and the question i would ask is how many that are there are you willing to accept in the country that are criminals? and the answer should be zero or at least make every attempt to screen them to say they are not a threat is absurd and ironically, you know, one of the reasons they haven't just marched across is because there is triple fencing down there. when you talk about a wall, who know what is they are going to do. at least we are prepared for them and see will see what happens. rachel: those going through the asylum process they say about 20% actually have

passed whatever the criteria is for seeking asylum, correct? >> yeah. what most people don't realize is about 80% of those people will be given credible fear, which would allow them to come into the country and because of the, you know, catch and release, they would be released into the -- you know, into the interior of the country. 53% of that group will never even file for asylum. more than half will just disappear. of the remainder most of them won't get asylum they will never leave. griff: thank you very much for joining us and it's important we also remember your son drew. such a great young man with so much promise. and we thank you for taking time to come on and share your story with us. rachel: thank you, don. >> thank you. thank you both. i appreciate it. rachel: of course.

german chancellor angela merkel taking on nationalism in a veiled swipe at president trump. does she really believe fighting for your country is not patriotic? griff: and the power of pelosi. putting democrats in a real leadership dilemma. will nancy get the help she needs to become speaker of the hours? we wilthe -- -- house, we will find out. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ spread a little love today

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♪ everybody plays ♪ everybody sings holiday with a touch of twang ♪ racism rach i love when the lights are in the trees. pete: if you haven't been to fox square you should come out christmas season. that's a neat place to be. germany has famous christmas markets, don't they? rachel: yes, they do. griff: really famous german thing and it's part of what makes that country special. well, their chancellor who is outgoing, right? drive griff angela merkel. pete: on her way out. she had something to say about nationalism. not even a veiled swipe a clear swipe at this president. this is what the she had to say to the president on wednesday. in this day nation states must say today i say be

ready to give up sovereignty but in an orderly procedure, of course. either you are one of those who believe they can solve everything on their own and only have to think about themselves that is nationalism in its purest form. this is not patriotism. griff, i will give it to both of you griff and rachel. the ordered end of sovereignty sounds like the perfect globalist bureaucratic. give up your sovereignty but do it in an orderly way. rachel: this is why she is so unpopular in her own country. it reminded me of something that president donald trump said. he has lots of famous lines as y'all know. there is one that he said that really grand me as an american. i'm the president of pittsburgh, not paris. it really incapsulated the way most americans feel. they really want an american president. they are not interested in a global president like president obama, i think, attempted to be.

griff: we have gotten a flashback. look at this and i will talk about it on the back end. >> i am very proud of our country. we cannot continue to allow what's happened to our country happen. we can't let it happen. so i'm proud. i'm proud of our country. and i am a nationalist. it's a word that end ha been used too much. some people use it but i'm very proud. i think it should be brought back. i'm somebody who wants to help other countries of the world but i also have to take -- we have to take care of our country. pete: world gone global. if you believe your country is good right and free. defending your nation is the new patriotism. rachel: right. pete: in a world gone global if you love your country, nationalism is patriotism. that's the exact opposite of what angela merkel. rachel: donald trump has encouraged other countries. i'm going to take care of my country and put my country

first. you should put your country first. the citizens of those countries have heard our president say that i have talked to those people in many of those countries yeah, i wish my president or my prime minister whoever is in charge would put us first. griff: step back just a bit and realize he is a businessman that got into politics because he felt a calling to lead the nation and so, you know, while the left has associated a really racist, you know, tie to the nationalism title some trade deals started to fight back with china and fight back with people in all of these pacs, he said i'm going to do what's best for me. you know what? those countries are going to do the best thing for them. why wouldn't they? they would be stupid not to. more out of an economic position to give us economic strengthening. if you think of your own citizens as your own children, you want to work as hard as you can to give them the best future they have gout. that's the comparison is he making with regard to american citizens in a

global economy. pete: that's a great point we are a big american family. i bought a commercial size flag pole way too big for my property. rachel: waiting for the homeowner's association to weigh in on this. pete: thankfully no homeowner's association but maybe we will play that video of my kid's pledges pledge of allegiance of the flag. rachel: alexandria ocasio-cortez always in the news and weighing in on the federal government's new report of climate change. the new york congresswoman elect tweeting in part, quote: people are going to die if we don't start addressing climate change asap. the report warns of devastating health and nic costs to the u.s. in the coming years. the left wants the feds to investigate a breach in the peach state. the democratic party of georgia is mocking governor elect's fashion sense. the party claiming to launch various investigations into

kemp's wardrobe tweeting quote actual evidence presented shows a major fashion breach. the apparent joke seems to be a dipping at kemp for keeping his suit jacket buttoned while sitting down. yep, real and fake christmas tree sellers are pining for your purchase. they are creating new online ads to convince you that their trees are greener and greater than the others. >> smells like christmas. that can't be manufactured. >> so get the family together and make a memory that will last a lifetime. it's christmas. keep it real. [cheers] rachel: we have real christmas trees in the duffy house with a lumberjack as the dad. what kind of christmas tree do you prefer? let us know at friends at friends@foxnews.com. are you doing fake ones or real ones? i grew up with silver trees remember those in the 70's. i was a military brat that's what you had to do.

pete: take it anywhere. griff: weather let's us know it's the holiday season. rick? rick: was it chilly for you. pete: yes very cold i blame you. rick: sounds like normal for thivenering day if thanksgiving day were like on january 20th. rachel: or in wisconsin. rick: exactly. really cold. the cold for the most part gone. still chilly across the east and even down in atlanta you are stuck in that wedge right there and have you chilly air. a lot of rain. getting to thanksgiving was pretty easy on monday. getting away from mom or grandma if that's what you are trying it to do now not as easy. big storm across the east. we have this icing going on here across parts of the central appalachians. watch if you are driving there see that today across i-80 and pennsylvania. a lot of rain with this. new storm that's across parts of the northern rockies is going to bring snow across parts of the central plains tomorrow. maybe up to a foot across

iowa and northern illinois. maybe chicago. more rain eventually coming into the west coast as well. a few traffic delays today across the south with that storm. temperaturewise, things are going to be getting a little bit better. i don't know what that is. that didn't work. pete: why would anyone be trying to get away from mom or grandma. rick: don't ask me. if that were the case. my parents are staying with me right now. that is not the mom or grandma. pete: i wanted to give you a chance to correct that. rick: thank you. pete: thanks, rick. appreciate it. griff: you have cool stuff going on. rachel: and i do and so do you on fox nation. this is my new show on fox nation. rachel: i was at at home mom for 14 years before i start wanted working. i will tell you i think it's helped me because you feel guilty about things when you are at home as well. so, there is no perfect

solution. there are things that you are giving to your kids by them watching you working and there is things that women who are at home doing and doing an amazing job. i think. >> no right, wrong. rachel: i thought it was a catholic condition. actually more of the female. pete: those are tough questions. rachel: listen, this has been the best thing i think i have ever done at fox. it is so fun. i'm getting groupings of women together. we started off with fox moms so we had ainsley and janice dean and lauren simone -- sim men nettie and melissa francis, of course. all moms we got together and went two a hotel and talked about everything under the sun, family, our husbands, kids current events and the current environment in the country today. we are going across the country. going to do it in texas and arizona and midwest. pete: no commercial breaks. talk about whatever you

want. rachel: yeah. pete: people can subscribe and watch behind the scenes situation. rachel: it's like getting your giferltdz together and having a conversation. griff: with their moms. moms rule the world racism rach the happened that rocks the cradle. pete: go to foxnation.com. couple more days to become a founding member of this new streaming service and you get cool shows like that. you can watch the moms, you can watch the documentaries and live shows. cool new feature. rachel: it's awesome. pete: i think i'm going to watch moms. can dads watch moms. rachel: dads can watch moms. pete: i think i will. and the power of pelosi, if there is such a thing. putting democrats in a real leadership dilemma. will nancy's persuasion help get her the votes she needs to become the speaker? griff: thanksgiving may be over but what about those leftovers? the guide on just how long those leftovers will last. that's coming up. here's a hint, they are not gone yet. ♪ the final count done ♪

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griff: good morning legislator nancy pelosi seems to be succeeding against some of the never nancy democrats. she is offering perks to those who back her. what exactly is she promising and should the country be concerned? katie frakes managing editor at olympic media joins us now. good morning. hope you had a great thanksgiving. >> good morning, you as well. griff: let's talk pelosi. what is behind the now we hear the phrase power of pelosi? you've got there were 16 against her, higgins the democrat now pulling out. now there is only 15. what is it about her that she has this power of persuasion? >> she has certainly got i think we can say sugar and spice and everything nice. she is definitely woulding these members. one of the problems, griff, as speaker, that position has actually lost a lot of the power it used to have when had you earmark reforms. she can't necessarily say i

will give you money for x if you vote for me. now she gives out chairmanships. she is creating leadership positions to make people feel important. and she is trying to do that to help content with this influx now of democratic representatives that are far more left than she is. and i think this is eventually going to come back to bite her. can you only promise so much without eventually having to pay out on those promises. griff: we just had up on the wall there the brave 15 that are left now that were willing to challenge her. also you had congresswoman me a fudge who said i will challenge her. we need a new voice. if you look at the leadership of the democratic party, the 3 million people from pelosi, hoyer, to clyburn, there are 78, 79, 78. why isn't there a call with these 15 that are still bravely remaining, perhaps, more will come forward, we will find out. why isn't there is a call for young leadership in an old democrat party? >> well, i think there is a call, just no one so far has

been willing to stand up and challenge nancy pelosi. 15 or 10 people may go higher or lower. who want to see change. but they don't actually have that person who is going to carry the banner for them to try and directly challenge nancy pelosi. and she does -- she has a lot of experience in this game. she has been doing this for a long time i think some of these people weren't expecting the all hone approach to her. you can't expect to challenge someone without a challenger. what does it send to young democrat voters who went out and elected alexandria ocasio-cortez here in new york and elsewhere? what does it say if nancy pelosi becomes yet again speaker? >> well, i think it says to them, of course, that while they may be ready for change, washington and the people they just put in power clearly are not ready for change. and i imagine that that must be very frustrating for them. but i think that you

possibly, at least for republicans, you do want nancy pelosi as speaker because at least she understands the way forward is not investigation and impeachment. you have to understand there is a fine line you have to walk. griff: we haven't heard any impeachment talk out of nancy pelosi. we will see what happens. the hypocrisy of hillary clinton. now she is pushing for border security. remember when she said bridges are better than walls? we will talk about that. thanksgiving may be over. what about all those leftovers. dr. nicole saphier is here with exactly how long they should last in your fridge. she is here. niccology ♪ ♪ hi. i'm misha. and my favorite bar is crunch. ♪ delicious 100% real chocolate embracing the lightness of crispy rice. crunch. the chocolate bar all americans love.

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pete: here to break it down dr. nicole saphier. i ate a bunch of leftovers yesterday and you probably did too. how long do they keep though start with the turkey. >> happy belated

thanksgiving, everyone. we have not proved on to christmas. leftovers really important. make sure if you are going to keep leftovers air tight container in your refrigerator. stuffing 3 to 5 days max in the refrigerator. you can freeze it if you want to make sure it's tin foil. pete: is tin foil over the plate tight. >> doing it in refrigerator that will do. not freeze it that way. it may not last as long. maybe you are closer to three days with tin foil. rachel: if you don't have air tight containers very affordable and easy to get. prolong the life. what about mashed potatoes. >> very same 3 to 5 days. if you haven't eaten it by sunday, it's probably not good anymore. but mashed potatoes are one of those things that you can freeze indefinitely. i don't know if you want. to say you can freeze it indefinitely, the flavor kind of goes away after a year. but, i don't know. griff: do the math, four days just to grab the

potatoes. stuffing, four days to go all. >> inography is one caveat. gravy lasts about two days. you can always. pete: make more. pete: stuff something my favorite. 3 to 5. >> i mix the stuffing and potatoes and gravy on top. >> dairy that. again, never put something uncovered in refrigerator. that's how bacteria happens and grows. by the way, great rule of thumb is if it doesn't look good or smell good, it's probably not good. griff: good advice. griff: spray a little butter on it and put in the microwave it might be okay? >> absolutely not. rachel: thank you. more "fox & friends" coming up.

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>> judge jeanine: president trump is addressing the crisis on our southern border and calling for funding of the border wall. >> one shut down the government. second thing once these guys come back from thanksgiving keep the 115th congress up on capitol hill until democrats commit. >> this is not about legal immigration it's about illegal immigration. griff: murphy brown is back. >> we received a call from a neighbor here about taco truck. undocumented immigrants outstanding removal order. >> comey and loretta lynch have both been subpoenaed to testify behind closed doors

next month. >> i have really been disappointed what he has done since he left. telling us one thing behind the scene at these closed hearings and giving a totally different impression when he was out in public. pete: president trump urge come together to pass a major reform bill. >> if they don't pass criminal justifiable reform now, you will now have to negotiate with nancy pelosi. >> ball is up in the air and now loose on the ground. and oklahoma has it. ♪ life is a highway ♪ i want to ride it all night long ♪ pete: welcome to saturday edition which happens to be the saturday after thanksgiving. lights are up outside our beautiful studio here at the fox news channel. griff, rachel campos-duffy. great to have you. rachel: thank you. excited to be here. we are here with all of our families. all of our families are here. pete: we are having a debate. did you spend yesterday getting ready for christmas, roll out of bed, eat leftovers and do shopping online nor person.

because i think it's still thanksgiving hangover -- great song by the way. rachel: if the duffys had been back in wisconsin which we normally are on this saturday we do and cut down our tree. we don't decorate it until advent starts. we cut down the tree and put it up the saturday after thanksgiving. griff: merry christmas. pete: is it too early have any. griff: friends@foxnews.com. is it too early? it has arrived. rachel: there are lights out there. pete: we are happy for it. are you just chilling with thanksgiving or are you ready to go full on christmas? rachel: are you just microwaving leftovers all weekend? most people are. griff: digesting not only leftovers but the news. the news is still front and center. rachel: that was smooth, griff. that was awesome. i love it. pete: news man on the couch. griff: tough story to digest. that's the caravan gathering on the southern border. tijuana, the president

certainly has made it a priority. but the new development it the mayor of tijuana that has solidarity. pete: you have been in it and seen and it interviewed members of the migrant caravan saying we are headed north. we didn't know where they were going. they ultimately coalesced in tijuana. almost 5,000 now in that border town. griff: quickly put up what the mayor gastelum of tijuana. he said we don't have sufficient and necessary infrastructures to adequately attend to these people to give them a decent space. he also said in a radio interview i will not spend the money of tijuana citizens for this cause. that was the case in every town in every city which this it came all the way from the mexican guatemala border. too big. it's a major problem. mexico is going to have to deal with it. >> richard: griff, i bet we

have heard this many times before. talk to the mayors of the border towns on our side of the border they say very similar things. don't have the resources to manage this. we are actually going to shut down the border. let me put up this tweet from president trump. he says republicans and democrats must come together finally with a major border security package. >> fix the border for once and for all. now, there is a spending bill. it turns out here it comes up on december 7th. they have until december 7th. right now it does not include founding for the wall. pete: i'm shocked by that you know congress better than -- why are have they not figured. clearly they are not in

support of the house's agenda. rachel: you need six democrats in the senate -- you need 60 votes in the senate. you need democrats. pete: there is a budget reconciliation process in the senate that could be used by the way which we may talk about push 51 votes in the that the and in the house slongsz you are doing it following proper procedure. this could be a throw down in the lame duck session for republicans who really care about a wall. who really care about fixing this problem. you watch that migrant caravan. watch them climbing. putting up concertino wire. giving military members more tools. doesn't solve the ultimate problem that the wall is not there. griff: you say could be, it is going to be a lame duck session issue. listen, president clinton, bush, obama, they all tackled comprehensive immigration reform. president donald trump in that tweet, bipartisan need to do it now i want to do it too but wire going to have a

wall. pete: comprehensive if you don't have a wall. one of the things don rosenberg whose child was killed by illegal and he talked about that experience and why it matters in the debate. earlier in the program. listen. >> we are a welcoming country and people should be able to come here. they have to come here legally. they have to be vetted. when you hear people talking about oh, they commit less crimes than native born, a, that's not true and b, i really don't care, none of the crimes that they committed should have happened. my son should be alive. the question i would ask is how many that are there are you will to accept in the country that are criminals? and the answer should be zero. griff: yeah. that's the point respective of someone who has seen the manifestation of unfettered illegal immigration. it is a permanent separation for his family. rachel: that is what was so interesting when we interviewed him, the point he made. he said you know what? mine is a permanent separation and a permanent

empty seat at the thanksgiving table. it was very moving. griff: meanwhile we had an election in 2016. donald trump whop. the other candidate, hillary clinton, senator hillary clinton, former secretary of state hillary clinton for more amnesty in the u.s. but pointing to the european immigration crisis. pete: she had this to say. i think europe needs to get a handle on migration because that is what lit the flame. now, she had other rationales for that later on. she got a lot of criticism for it so she tweeted this after saying it she said i have always been and remain a staunch advocate of comprehensive immigration reform in quoits. that's true to our values and treats over person with dignity provides a pathway to full and equal citizenship. fixes the family backlog. protects our borders and national security. when i read that i read wah, wah what washington has said

forever. doesn't include the wall. border security can mean whatever they want it to mean temporarily. it really means amnesty. it really means a pathway and means let's have it our way. i'm skeptical any part of a bipartisan solution that's meaningful and enforces our border will happen. rachel: first quote was really hillary truth-telling. elites in europe said this is the way we are going to do it. we are going to have open borders and invite these people even though many people in the middle east, experts were saying no, we need to provide a safe zone for them and not have them go all the way to europe. europeans had them come over and there is a lot of political turmoil in europe and she rightfully is pointing to these policies as being the, as she called, the flame that lit this. but, this is hillary clinton years ago talking about let's go back in the way, way back time machine. >> i want to open up the

opportunity for immigrants to be able to buy in to the exchanges under the affordable care act: of the undocumented people living in our country, i do not want to see them deported. i want to see them on a path to citizenship. >> we believe that cooperation is better than conflict, unity is better than division. bridges are better than walls. [cheers] griff: it's if you listen to that october 2015, june 2016. she got closer. rachel: that's a great point. griff: the talk and really her knew ounced position became more open borders than not. pete: pick your continent. they all think they know better than us. they all think the nation state is passe. they want those borders open. they don't believe in flag and allegiance and sovereignty to their own country. guess what? they're not inviting a single illegal into their gated communities. these policies don't effect

them. they have personal body guards. they have gates in their communities. they have alarm systems on their homes and send their kids to elite private schools where they are not affected by any of this. that's not to say that immigrants are bad people. when you have influx of illegals and you are not prepared to manage them and they are not coming here for the right reasons, some of them with criminal background as we have heard from dhs and others, you create problems for the forgotten men and women of america who are left to deal with these policies that the elites tell them are so good for them u. rachel: great point. griff: walking it out that bit at the end of this week you have a new president sworn n mexico. one of the questions he must be wondering is if nancy pelosi comes into power, what is her plan for immigration? what is her plan on the border? who knows? we will find out. pete: bridges not walls. rachel: let us know what you think about hillary and her evolving positions on border security and immigration. friends@foxnews.com.

that's where you should send those thoughts. we will look at them and talk about them later on in the show. griff: and can you sea say merry christmas? rachel: so far more people are agreeing with you, griff. pete: friends@foxnews.com. thanksgiving hangover. rachel: here are your headlines. black friday shoppers run for their lives during a shooting inside a new jersey mall. that is scary. >> get down. >> a man shot in the wrist. is he expected to survive. it's unclear what caused the gunfire, police say the victim is refusing to identify the gunman. no arrest so far have been made. at least 87 people are confirmed dead in the california wildfires. nearly 500 are still missing. much needed rainfall is hurting the search for the remains but helping to put out flames.

officials are now warning about the risk of flash flooding and mud slides. the devastating wildfires have torched more than 254,000 acres and destroyed 20,000 structures. house democrats will be putting jamal khashoggi's murder at the top of their list. adam schiff telling "the washington post" in part, quote: we will look at what the intelligence community assessments are at any given time then it will be quite clear whether the president is relying on the intelligence community and our best source of information or whether the president is representing something very different. pete: if i can rachel, i will take it from here. rachel: you got it. pete: two golf legends scwardz off on one-on-one match for 9 million bucks. phil mickelson walked away with the win against tiger woods in their made for tv match. there and long last it is.

pete: mick knocked in a birdie. they played 22 holes. 600,000ness side bets will go to a charity. mick told woods he will never let him live it down. mick said you may be the greatest golfer of all time which he gave him. he said hey, every time i see you i'm going to remind you that i beat you in this one-on-one match. fun tv. all behind the scenes. the problem is a lot of people couldn't log on to pay per view i'm told because there was so much demand for it -9sd million bucks. rachel: i was not one of them. if it's sports i'm out. griff: i was watching football. pete: a lot of people watching football. that's what thanksgiving is for. thanksgiving or shopping. pete told we have to move on. german chance lore angela merkel taking on nationalism veiled swipe at president trump. dr. sebastian gorka says she doesn't be mocking anyone about nationalism. he is coming up next.

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[laughter] rachel: german chancellor angela merkel encouraging nations to give up sovereignty while taking a swipe at trump. griff: one of solve everything on their own and only have to think about themselves. that is nationalism in its purest form. this is not patriotism. griff: here to react fox news national security strategist former deputy

assistant to the president and author of the book "why we fight j" dr. sebastian gorka. merry christmas, happy thanksgiving, all of the above. she says nationalism not patriotic, what do you say about that? >> i'm going to get it out there, pete, fort rest of human history after the 60 million people killed in world war ii, the 6 million jews who died in the holocaust, nobody who wears the title chancellor of germany should be lecturing anybody about nationalism forever, for the rest of history. it was american nationalism that saved the world from the nazis of the third rite and the imperialist of japan. the idea that a german chancellor lectures us now absolutely outrageous, pete. griff: dr. gorka let me take merkel's side on this a little bit. she dealt with a european migration crisis that really

was unprecedented. do you believe that she is not legitimate in her position in trying to sort of pass along what is happened here that she has already seen? >> just listen to her own words. two years ago in her new year's eve address, she made an incredibly weird statement. in one sense and she said the greatest threat to my nation is jihad terrorism. literally the next sentence, griff, she said but, i'm not going to put a limit on the number of refugees we allow into germany. that cognitive dissidence is why you have the attack, the berlin attack, niche attack. she has done more as one individual to undermine the national sovereignty of the nation states of the eu than any other member. i will tell you something in my book why we fight, i have some photographs. one the ones i included was the moment the president pulled us out of the paris

climate accord because, for me, that was a proud moment in my service in the white house because the president, do you remember the sentence the president said, griff? he said i was elected by the citizens of pittsburgh to be their president not the citizens of paris. that's healthy nationalism and that's who donald trump is. rachel: dr. gorka, i brought that up at the beginning of the show i frankly personally rereally loved that line and thought it spoke for a lot of americans who i think frankly kind of sick and tired of having a globalist president before donald trump. with that said there seems to be a lot of debate now. what is that healthy balance between being patriotic and what the left is say something unhealthy nationalism? that's a great question, rachel. i think you have to look at what are the concrete consequences of these kinds of issue in tifsz? published an article that looks at this policy.

and in it says 23 points of the u.n. initiative is to make migration a human right. hang on a second. does that mean that 7 billion people can move to america? at that point what happens to america? that's the question. it's got to be logical and rationale. pete: we have to leave it right there unfortunately. more "fox & friends" on the other side.

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shunned and treated like we treated smokers 20 years ago. rachel: should he really be shunning fellow americans? joining us now to react editor and chief of campus reform lawrence jones. lawrence, welcome. >> thanks for having me. happy thanksgiving. rachel: happy thanksgiving to you too. this is not the first time michael moore has called on anyone to voted for donald trump racist and shunned. >> really lazy political commentary. most people would try to figure out what went wrong, especially after you had a two term black president that the that got a lot of these counties to vote for him. a lot of these congressional districts went for barack obama. instead of trying to figure out what happened, what message didn't sell. these guys go to the identity politics. this is really the stuff we have reported on leadership institute campus for college reform. you have a trump maga hat they demonize you. if you support the president

they assault you. these are the people that don't want to get into your political ideology and have a actual debate. i have friends and we have debates at thanksgiving table and and they don't call me names and all that these people are so lazy. they don't get into that prefer lazy to demonize you. pete: lawrence, our viewers don't see it the cuff links. >> state flag of texas. pete: beautiful. a lot of supporters supporting upholding that state. michael moore and others on the left to your point want to strip down their identity and say no, no, you are racist. >> they don't want to discuss the issues. look, for a long period of time. the identity politics of the left have used, it worked. a lot of people were afraid to do it. so, you see them freaking out right now because american people are starting to vote for pocketbook issues. securing the border and healthcare reform. issues that affect their day-to-day basis. that's why you see a white guy like michael moore using identity politics when he really doesn't relate to a

lot of the identities that he supposed to be representing as a filmmaker. rachel: using the racism card is a way you say to shut down debate or control debate. >> totally shuts down debate. there is tough issues out there. i mean, i was at the dinner table with my family this weekend. the only issue that they agree with donald trump on do you know what it is immigration? my grandmother said verbatim. i may not agree with the president but i will help him build that wall. that's something we can find compromise on and discuss but again they will probably call her racist too. pete: i'm guessing your grandmother is not a white lady. why can't these issues cross the visual identity we have. >> if the president would hear me say this, he would try to find some way to bring her down and talk about these issues, except is he a bridge builder. he finds the issues that you can have compromise with him on. that's why have you kanye and other people that wouldn't traditionally vote for a republican talking with the president.

this president is not an idealogue. is he one that will find compromise. that's why i think we will be able to get stuff done. rachel: alexandria ocasio-cortez, a product of the campus culture. we are seeing campus things really bleed into national politics. >> from the kavanaugh stuff to alexandria ocasio-cortez. look, we can no longer laugh at these people. we can't laugh at socialism because they are winning now. they are getting some seats. look, this is not a sprint. it's a marathon. these people are -- look at beto. he came very close in texas. if we lose texas, then we are losing liberty, people. rachel: the battle is on the campus. i agree with you completely. pete: thank you for your fight on campus. great stuff. happy to see you. happy thanksgiving and merry christmas. >> yes. and to your families as well. pete: well done. you know nancy pelosi thinks pretty highly of herself as a leader of the democratic party. >> i'm a master legislator.

i am a strategic, politically astute leader. pete: lawrence is a master commentator. i will say that. could there be a never nancy revival in the democrats now pushing for someone else to be house speaker. rachel: we have an expert here to tell you how to pick and take care of your christmas tree. stay with us. ♪ it's beginning to look a lot like christmas ♪ >> i give you the griswold lfamily christmas tree. [ai

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pledge of allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands. one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. all. rachel: that was awesome. do you know who that is? those little kids are pete's kids and i'm going to tell you what, that is an amazing little piece of video. my favorite part of the morning. griff: that's our shot of the morning, a great shot morning because it reaffirms the greatest nation we live. in pete's kids there standing at attention

honoring and saying the pledge of allegiance. pete: it was thanksgiving morning, finally got the flag pole in and new flag up. rewithireran it up the poll andd the best to harang all of them. they say it in school. it was a great moment. pete: littldwiny wandering around. griff: so we know about the 15, was 16 democrats opposing nancy pelosi as speaker. there is a group called the problem solver's coalition caucus, there they are now. nine house democrats that are opposing her because they want to quote break the gridlock. they just believe that she is not willing to get anything done.

pete: is it a real threat to her speakership? griff: depending on final numbers. few races yet to be decided. it looks about 17. she has got to survive a threshold of 17 votes that would be out of the way. but, as we saw with congresswoman me a fudge bailing on it and really no one else jumping in the fray. pete: yep. griff: even if she didn't get the votes to support her as speaker whether it's this caucus or another one, who is going to step in the void? where is the leadership? if you add up the democrat leadership it's led by nancy pelosi, steny hoyer and congressman clyburn, 78, 79, and 78. no new blood there. rachel: see where nancy pelosi is being pulled from the far, far left, alexandria ocasio-cortez from the socialist wing of the party from more moderates. daniel lipinski of illinois is a pro-life democrat. one of the only ones, i think. so somebody like alexandria ocasio-cortez doesn't want

rule changes. pete: she doesn't like this problem solver caucus. rachel: she actually tweeted about it? >> favorite socialist of ed henry not here to defend himself from the bronx. 9 democracy are choosing to hold the entire 220-plus caucus hostage if we don't accept their g.o.p.-friendly rules that will hamstring healthcare efforts from the get-go. people sent us here to get things done. not negotiate with the -- she wants to be able to raise your taxes faster. she feels like if the rules aren't changed the way she wants them they can't do that. rachel: also, what these rule changes would do is allow more bipartisan saying let's work together, let's get things done. alexandria ocasio-cortez is the progressive wing of that party. pete: rewants rule changes that make raising taxes easier. rachel: she wants more control for leadership which is more progressive than these moderates who are saying let's try and get stuff done for the people.

griff: this group calls it common sense governing. the point is alexandria ocasio-cortez is against common sense governing, against bipartisan manner. it is her way, which appears to be a socialism way or no way. rachel: that's exactly right. all right. thank you for summing that up for us, griff. we're going to head to some headlines. neighborhood in ruins after a house burst into flames. look at this. a home explodes into a fireball in saint paul, minnesota. the homeowner is in critical condition. neighbors say flames shot as high as 50 feet high in the air as the blast blew out nearby. it may have been caused by a gas leak. two dogs and a cat were also, thankfully, rescue you had. grand bargains and brawls. black friday fights breaking out across the u.s. as shoppers get their hands on the best deals. [shouting]

>> you are breaking it. >> that is not a good look. and look at this. dozens of shoppers in a mad dash over a marked down sweatshirt at a victoria secret in tennessee. the store employee had to jump on the table to get out of way as she watched in fear. op-ed writer isn't grinning about the new grinch movie. take a look. >> today, we will do mean things and we will do them in style. rachel: a "new york post" writer says the new flick is just warping kids into weak-minded snowflakes. he writes, quote: this is grinch film. continuing society's destructive habit of protecting kids from potentially useful stories. watching a repugnant meany have a change of heart would be a positive message for children. those are your headlines.

rick: thanks, rachel, finding the perfect christmas tree can be tough. >> there it is. i griff you the griswold family christmas tree. pete: a classic. here to show us how to pick the best tree for your home harold from nyc trees. >> thanks for having me. this is awesome. pete: walk into a lot what are you looking for. >> first asking ask them when the tree is cut. that's very important. see some of the big home salers home depot they are cutting those trees in october. ask the guy when the trees are cut. pete: will they though? >> if you see the needles falling off the tree from the beginning, that's a sign that that tree is probably cut way too early for shipping. and we typically cut our trees once per week. rick: if you get your tree right now, will it last like say through new year's?

>> absolutely from nyc trees it will. because we guarantee our tree is cut the same week. rick: nicely done. griff: three things people need to know when they get a tree what are. >> they good foliage all the way around the tree. no holes in the tree. foliage of the tree. needle retention. put your fingers through the tree is there needles coming off the tree? that's very important. if the needles are coming off the tree straight away, that's a sign that the tree is a little bit old. make sure the tree is beautiful and fits your need. every family is different. some want a skinny and some want a wide. rick: do you measure ahead of times? that looks about right for my house and get home and takes up half a living room. >> we had a couple who bought a 14-foot tree and 11-foot ceilings, cutting the tree in the home. so absolutely measure it some people don't realize they put the star on is going to add some height. the stand will add height. pete: speaking of stands,

once you get it there how do you keep it alive or living? >> what we do every tree needs to be fresh cut. before the tree is installed it needs to be fresh cut to open up the poors this way the tree can drink water. once it is in the stand it needs to have water within 354, 0 minutes. if you are cutting your tree and driving an hour or. so that tree could seal up. rick: like another fresh cut when you get home. >> typically that's why you hire guys like us come to your house and fresh cut it and put in your stand and do any last minute trimmings, but the tree needs water. griff: warm water? cold water. >> some people say aspirin. some people say soda. i would say lukewarm water is good. everybody has their own different. rick: how much should it be drinking like do you water it every day? every week? is it vodka? what is it? >> these trees have a mind of their own really. depending on the tree when they're brought in from the field indoors they drink a lot of water. some of these trees don't drink a lot of water because they are so fresh.

it will drink when it needs. to say if it doesn't drink straight away there is no need to be concerned because it's really fresh. pete: nyc trees.com. griff: rachel, we are picking out a tree for you. one for each of your kids. rachel: all right. well hollywood now tackling the border crisis as murphy brown mocks ice. >> you guys cannot barge in here like this. if you don't get out of this truck, i will spatchcock you. rachel: why our next guest says it's all to manipulate people's emotions. >> small business saturday so we're celebrating with small businesses, all made in america and coming up. ♪ who wouldn't go ♪ up on the house top click, click, click ♪ down through the chimney with old saint nick.

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pete: welcome back. nearly 30% of americans are carrying holiday debt from last christmas that's according to nerd wallet. experts suggest coming up with a plan now to tackle your debt and scale back on christmas budgets. shoppers are expected to spend a trillion dollars between now and december and if you are shopping online you may notice a few extra dollars added to checkout next to a supreme court ruling in june. more companies are required to sales tax comes down to where people live and where they are shopping. they will find a way to get your tax dollars, griff, no matter what. what.griff wallet gone yesterday on friday shopping. cbs missing the mark this thanksgiving airing an episode of the murphy brown episode about threatening

ice agents. >> you guys cannot barge in here like this. i know you are used to dealing with people who are scared and vulnerable but if you don't get out of this truck, i will spatchcock you. rachel: wow, so what is holiday getting wrong about the crisis at the border? joining us now to weigh in, radio talk show host mike slater. so, what do you think of this episode and why would they go after our ice agents and make them the bad guys? >> yeah, i think people need to be very weary of arguments made purely based off of emotion as opposed to facts and logic and reason. that's what this episode wanted. very contrived plot to ultimately culminate in this super blow hardy speech from murphy brown how she thought we are a compassionate country and but we are really not. that's nonsense. we are the most compassionate country. we accept more immigrants and refugees than anywhere around the world not even close.

one easily could have done the exact opposite plot it could have been hispanic family who sends tiny tim out to get a thanksgiving turkey and shot by ms-13. beware of emotional argument. >> . that's what this episode was. griff: forget the fact that we are still wondering spatchcock means. the point of holiday challenging silent norms. is it your sense that hollywood jumped the shark in terms of addressing reality because the rule of law isn't something that she brings into her episode. neither is the fact that the administration has changed the family separation policy. >> use the word reality. right? it's holiday way off base. also most of the media. i remember this story and you might, too. i think back in august of a couple, husband and wife who were rushing to the hospital because she was going to give birth and they were pulled over by ice agents and he was deported back to mexico.

right there on the spot. leaving his wife giving birth like had to drive herself to the hospital. the truth was first of all it was a planned c section so there was no rushing to the hospital. that guy was wanted for murder in mexico. right. but that part of the reality isn't shared. same thing with murphy brown all to pull on heart strings and manipulate your emotions and not deal with the actual reality of our immigration situation which is an entire mess. rachel: mike, it's so true. i so remember seeing that story blasted all over the media. each on youth lets entertainment type outlets and we never saw that follow-up. very interesting point. >> real quick if i can. people don't know what ice really does. there are more ice agents that deal with human trafficking and drug and weapon smuggling than deal with deportations. i bet more people were saved, more lives were saved from human smuggling in the 30 minutes of murphy brown

episode than fake people deported in the episode itself. ice assist lives. griff: ice agents don't get to speak out because people like murphy brown have politicized this issue. mike slater, thank you very much. >> thanks. rachel: a decorated navy seal with 19 years of service and 8 combat tours is now behind bars accused of murdering an isis fighter. there is no evidence casting doubt on the case against him. his brother joins us live in the next hour griff glif plus, black friday was all about the big store blow outs. today we are celebrating small businesses for small business saturday. all of their products are made in america and they are heroes, every one of them. they are joining us coming up next. ♪

♪ rachel: today is maul business saturday and this morning we are highlighting amazing small businesses that all made in america. here to kick us off is melissa claytonish of tiny tags. i have been obsessing over all your jewelry here. so why don't you tell us what got this idea going for you and why everyone should get one for mom. >> absolutely, i started tiny tags. i have three boys and after my first son was born i just wanted a beautiful piece of jewelry with his name on it so that's what we do. we do all personalized jewelry just for moms. we offer all our jewelry in 14 karat gold, sterling silver and 14 karat gold weighted. get names on the metal so the metal never scratch. do names on front and birthdays on the back. rachel: this is the biggest seller right here. >> skinny bar. rachel: what i love about your jewelry is how delicate

the chains are. feminine and beautiful. >> guarantee everything for life including the chains. moms always like because kids can be grabby. rachel: i was looking at this one on your neck this is perfect for kids u. pete: where are you headquartered. >> out of massachusetts. pete: where did it come off. >> after i had my son and looking online and couldn't find the perfect necklace i decided to make it on my own. rachel: kids named engraved. pete: people say that but don't start a business. >> i definitely have an entrepreneurial bug. i came from a family of entrepreneurs. my dad is watching. rachel: good job, dad. >> i think it was in my blood. pete: tiny tags? >> tiny tags.com. and having small business saturday sale. be sure to shop early, dads. pete: thank you very much. >> thank you. pete: griff, over to you. >> t-shirt and great wear from veterans. grunt style. their motto is we will defend this. i love it first, dabble, tell me about grunt style.

what was the concept behind it? why did you start it? >> drill sergeant down in fort binning, georgia. i wanted a way to keep connection to culture. what if i made it my next mission to share that pride and patriotism into every home in america? made a bunch of t-shirts, had 1200 bucks and car t-shirts at flea markets and until we are here today. griff: few veterans working for you. >> 400 veteran patriots. screen print everything you see here in chicago. griff: i have to grab this one. this is fantastic. whisk helps. american flag on every sleeve. how does someone get if they don't already have a grunt style wear. where do they get it? >> go to grunt style.com and use the code support vets and get a nice percentage off black friday sale. pete: i think i already own about seven grunt style t-shirts. you are amazing company. do you a fantastic job. >> thank you. griff: thank you very much, daniel and thank you for

your service. griff: head to "fox & friends@foxnews.com. pete: other businesses we didn't get to talk to talk to them next hour. griff: crisis for the border wall. will it get done before democrats take control of the house. we will ask arizona congressman andy biggs. that's coming up. stay tuned. to improve short-te. prevagen. healthier brain. better life.

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back her. she gives out chairmanship. she is creating leadership positions to make people feel important. pete: president trump coming together to come together major prison reform bill. >> if they don't pass justice reform now you will now have to negotiate with nancy pelosi. pete: golf legend square off on one-on-one match for 9 million bucks. phil mickelson walked away with the win against tiger woods. ♪ jingle bell ♪ jingle bell ♪ jingle bell rock ♪ jing bell bell swing and ♪ ♪ griff: break out the christmas music because christmas is upon us. even if pete resists. pete: i'm not resisting. i'm not a member of the resistance. rachel: christmas resistance. pete: i want to soak and bask in thanksgiving. rachel: i don't like to start the music -- pete: not the first time during thanksgiving dinner we had the tv on and turned

it off. i turned on holiday christmas music light christmas music in the background of my thanksgiving dinner. rachel: was it like the kind no words just the music. pete: no, words. griff: brenda leon the whole show until you guys gone it the gravy has gone bad. don't eat it, toss the turkey out. it's time to put the tree up. pete: not gone back yet. keep eating it all weekend. that's what matters more than anything else. what do you do this weekend? you have been emailing us. we are going full christmas in our house today. the longer we can celebrate the merriest season the better. good rationale. rachel: this is from conner i still believe it's thanksgiving season but then again our wife has had our tree up for over two weeks. i thought it was too early. enjoy one season at a time. i'm with you conner. griff: thanksgiving in your home until leftovers are eaten and gone.

after that it's merry christmas, issues settled. rachel: is that written why chuck or pete? griff: gravy only stays two days it's over. i will coming back around christmas time and tell you i keep the tree up as long as i can. after christmas. it's the best time of the year. rachel: i do. we keep it up after christmas, too. because we celebrate three kings day january 6th. we do the 12 days. pete: you killed my theory. that's very doctrinaire catholic of you. january 1st the tree goes down and starts the new year. i respect that. rachel: yeah. pete: one holiday at a time, people. griff: we can't avoid the news. whatever season it is, it is caravan time on the southern border in tijuana. you have 4,000 ultimately we expect here in the next couple of days getting there and what's really remarkable about this story is the mayor of tijuana.

juan gastelum telling a radio group there that quote we don't have sufficient and necessary infrastructure to adequately attend to these people to give them a decent space. i saw that firsthand in scores of towns all the way from the guatemala border through mexico city, now it is on the border. the mayor also telling that radio station that, quote: i am not going to spend the money of tijuana citizens for this group. rachel: it's interesting because so many people in the media and on the left, democrats have said that all this hoopla or concern about the caravan is just a political stunt. but here we have a mayor of tijuana, a mexican citizen, sort of echoing the concerns of his citizens, of his town saying, listen, this is a problem. we have increased crime. we have a strain on our resources. and that's kind of what a lot of mayors on our side of the border have been trying to tell washington, d.c. for a while. pete: great point.

all the media outlets in this town can talk about it in a detached manner. griff, you have been there. this mayor is there. he is seeing all these almost 5,000 folks coalescing at the border. we are not sure what they will do as far as how they will cross where they will cross, but it highlights the fact that this remains a real problem for mexico and for the united states of america. that's why our president had a tweet yesterday talking about the need for an actual solution at the border. he tweeted. this if we can scroll the prompter up just a bit. republicans and democrats must come together finally with a major border security package, which will include funding for the wall, after 40 years of talk, it's finally time for action. fix the border once and for all, now. 40 years hearkens back to reagan who had his own amnesty deal that did not include real border security. here we are revisiting this problem. it's been heightened by the focus and attention on it the law still hasn't solved sstled it. all of these migrants in limbo status, can they enter in will they enter in will they be detained here or in

mexico? will it be catch and hold or catch and release. what will they do on the border? they have more tools at their disposal now than they had before. also clouded in question marks until congress says no, we are going to fix this by building the wall and all the other side that come with it. griff: raise such a good point it's a political talking point. abstract idea until the caravan actually shows up physically on your doorstep and you have to deal with it tijuana mayor also is aware of, you know, a few months ago when we had the first caravan and that was only a few hundred people out of a little over 1,000 actually made it. it was an issue for them even in the hundreds because they had to set up a metering system to slowly let people come to claim asylum at the port of entry. now you are talking about thousands and you have the politics of it that has absolutely escalated. much larger problem. the president is trying to reach out in a bipartisan manner to say let's find a

solution because if we don't we have a problem. rachel: we will have more caravan we have already seen that. pete: partisan manner control the house and senate and force a government shut down and border wall show down and border folks who think it's worth it see what happens. rachel: partial spending bill is going to have to be voted on by december 7th. if there is going to be funding for the wall, it will have to be by that point. the president is saying. pete: you know what's in it, it's a wall. griff: this is a complex problem. the president saying one of the solutions is obviously to rescind asylum claims for those that illegally cross on the rivers, not coming to a poverty entry. illegally crossing the president wanting to say look, we are not going to give you asylum. that's playing out in the courts. senate minority leader chuck schumer now weighing in on what was a row between supreme court john roberts and president trump. pete: if you haven't been following on twitter and

public statements. the chief justice of the supreme court shot back at the president of the united states, chief justice saying there are no obama judges or trump judges, justices, it's all blinged. and trump saying no, no, no. they have different points of view. saying there are obama judges and trump judges. rachel: there are activist judges and ones who fault constitution. pete: they all view the constitution differently. chuck schumer a democrat in the u.s. senate tweeted this. he said: i don't agree very only with chief justice roberts. check this. especially his partisan decisions which seem highly political on citizens united, janice an. janice: news and shelby. so, on one level is he standing up for independent judiciary which we all believe in. rachel: of course. pete: also pointing out the fact that chief justice roberts is partisan because he was appointed by bush and chuck schumer doesn't like that. rachel: by the way, wasn't it chief justice roberts who

upheld obamacare? there is plenty for schumer to left there. griff: listen, at the end of the day, chief justice roberts weighed in very unusual. he may yet decide ultimately whether or not federal courts like this 9th circuit which ruled out of its lane, didn't say just with the case that was put before me in the lower court with my district but yet the 9th circuit judge there judge tegar ruled that the entire 2,000 border would be affected in this asylum thing. and that's really an issue that ultimately roberts is going to have to deal with. i think it's going to head to the supreme court. justice thomas cited in the first travel ban ruling that ultimately this is going to have to be decided on whether or not district, federal judges can rule for a nationwide policy. pete: president trump pointing out ninth circuit because it's been overturned so many times because it loves activist rulings. listen, again, it goes down to people taking the president literally and figuratively. in reality of course there are obama justices and trump

justices and bush justices and clinton justices. they appoint the people that fit their world view. and if you believe in the constitution, you do one thing, if you see it as more activist and a living document you do another. again, i call this the president the see something say something president. it's obvious. don't pretend like you live in a fairy land where everyone is unbiased. it's just not the way it works. griff: great point. the irony in minority leader schumer's statement there. he applauds an independent judiciary yet specifically with these one cases. rachel: right. exactly. we could solve all of this if we just had people follow the constitution instead of their ideology. but, anyway. we will discuss that a little bit later. we will get to some headlines first. this is a fox news alert. an american hero is killed in action. the military confirming the death of a u.s. service member in afghanistan overnight. further details surrounding the incident are not yet available. this is the ninth american killed in action in afghanistan this year.

earlier this month, major brent taylor was killed in an insider attack in kabul. that was so sad as well. police are now revealing an officer shot and killed a man who may not have been the gunman inside an alabama mall. the man was seen waiving a gun while running away. he is believed to be involved. but new evidence shows he may not have shot the 18-year-old man during a black friday fight. that teen was seriously injured. 12-year-old girl was also hit by gunfire and her condition is still unknown. a manhunt is underway for two men pulling off a dangerous prank. take a look. security of camera catching the culprits on the porch door lighting the fireworks and taking off. no injuries have been

reported. pete: and in a college football roundup. number 6 oklahoma and number 13 west virginia serve up a classic big 12 shootout. differentiating officiating crew. ball up in the air and now loose on the ground and oklahoma has it. curtis taking off for the end zone. >> that's not a high school basketball score that is a college football score 59-56. that last touchdown helped the sooners outlast the mountaineers 59-56: longhorns hold off kansas 24-17. iowa sneaks past nebraska 31-28 with a field goal to end the game. washington state's band plays washington's fight song. the band missed the game after getting into a bus crash. washington won that game 28-15. a lot of sports. it goes with thivenering.

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griff: welcome back. president trump taking to twitter to demand bipartisan funding for border wall

tweeting, quote: republicans and democrats must come together finally with the major border security package which will include funding for the wall. after 40 years of talk, it is finally time for action. fix the border for once and for all now. well, can a deal be reached before democrats take control of the house in january? joining me now arizona congressman andy biggs. congressman, good morning. happy thanksgiving. and merry christmas to you. this issue is really pressing for you. you are on the border. what say you? >> well, i think that we have to do two things. we need to do them next week if we can. number one. we need to pass a border wall. there is lots of bills out there. mine is the cleanest. we need to do it and then the second thing is we need to change the amnesty rules and put those and codify those where people have to apply in their own nation and those two things will provide the disincentive for future caravans, this caravan is here and we have deal with this. there are other caravans

forming and coming up based on how we deal with this caravan plus the wall. griff: congressman, the president making it very clear he is not afraid to shut the government down as soon as the end of next week. what is the mood amongst your colleagues republican members that are so involved in this fight? are they willing to go the distance with the president? >> i think there a lot of us willing to go that distance and shut the government down because this is a real national security issue right now. and there are others who aren't going to go there so it's going to be a donnie brook but the reality is we need to do something immediately. we can't wait for a month. we have to do it next week. griff: when you say you have to do it now. how concerned are you when it looks like speaker nancy pelosi at least the democrats will take control. how concerned are you that's not going to be a point of no return. >> once the democrats get ahold of it we are not going to see policies that reform the amnesty.

not going to build a wall. they will be focused on amnesty their focus the last eight years. it's terrible. griff: congressman, let me ask you to weigh in. we are seeing this fight play between the chief justice of the supreme court and the president all about the possibility of taking away rescinding asylum claims if you illegally come. not through port of entry. if you illegally come. what do you say? i mean, you have got know gallis and have you so many ports of entry. yet, the idea of not allowing asylum if they come illegally. what do you say? >> well, you can't allow people who severe this countr -- enterthis country illy asylum. that's catch and release right now. 80% of the claims for asylum are bogus claims. and we're only getting 2% of people who come back. we give them a paper and say okay. we will let you loose. come back on this court date. they don't come back. so they just come, in claim asylum and they are in the country. so we have to change that

law immediately. and this judge out of california who issued a nationwide injunction against a changing and revising the asylum laws, that's a real problem. that judge has exceeded his judicial boundaries. griff: all right. congressman andy biggs, thank you for joining us today. we shall see how this plays out. obviously the clock is ticking. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. griff: all right. a decorated navy seal with 19 years of service and eight combat tours is now behind bars accused of murdering an isis fighter. there is new evidence casting doubt on the case against him. his brother will join us live. that's coming up next. and the hypocrisy of hillary clinton now she is pushing for border security. but, remember, she said bridges are better than walls. well, dan bongino, who never has an opinion, may have an opinion on this for the first time. that's coming up. i wonder what he will say. ♪ acting like somebody else

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click, call or visit a store today. griff: welcome back. time for headlines. two more cases of adeno virus. the new case is now bringing the total number to 12 infected patients at the voorhies. additional cases of the respiratory virus are expected. students field that mold at the university of maryland may have caused their classmate to die from adeno virus. eolivia's roommate says mold inside their freshman dorm room get sick. she got pneumonia which turned into adeno virus

before she died at the hospital. the university says the mold outbreak is being investigated. pete, down to you. pete: griff, thank you. edward gallagher has extraordinary navy seal resume including 19 years of service, 8 combat tours. bronze star with v for valor. now is he behind bars, multiple charges including the murder of isis dirt bag. chief gallagher denies all the charges and now there is new evidence that could cast doubt on the prosecutor's case against him his brother sean gallagher joins us now with more. sean, thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. pete: your brother, 8 tours. engaged with the enemy. before we get into the case, talk to us about your brother. >> my brother represents what is best about this country he fulfilled a family tradition we have of joining service like father and uncle and grandparents. enlisted at high school and became a medic and marine scout sniper and navy seal which he has been for 14 years. he has been on eight combat

tours like you mentioned racking up accolade after accolade. if you were to create what a modern day war hero would be it would be eddie. he is like any other special operator. is he humble. he would say i'm just like the rest of the guys. even among his peers he stands out. pete: he is accused now after all that service mosul 2017 staring down isis and there was an incident that occurred there was wounded isis fighter. talk to us a little bit about that incident briefly what happened? >> sure, so my brother was in charge of his platoon, trump and the presiden tanked hm almost the impossible. deeply embedded intense weeks of heavy fire fighting of combat of the grewellest caliber. my brother has called me on every single deployment and hardly has he described an enemy as cruel and violent as just as disgusting as isis. so in this incident in question and i want to state from the beginning that everything that's gotten

said is and if i can use this phrase it's fake news in a way. it's complete fa fabrication and rumor. what happened is that these rumors grew and snowballed where investigators took them and believed them at face value. so, for a year now, our family has finally been able to get the truth out at this moment in time we have been silent for a year. finally we are fighting back. in this incident that you mentioned. quite literally the accusation is that a wounded isis fighter that he and his platoon was working on already shot in the leg, severed artery been in a building that iraqi special sources had shelled. brought him into the compound and treating him and he expires. the accusation against my brother is this already dying father my brother killed which did not happen but is insane just at the outset right, that a u.s. navy seal trained to fight the enemy brings in a wounded guy. brother facing quite literally life in prison without the possibility of parole.

pete: nci sir. and others saying he shot indiscriminately and civilians, killed this teenager and knifed him while he was on death bed wreck ltsz and blood thirsty in some of his conduct. he reprimanded fellow navy seals against him. there is also new evidence now iraqis come out. we will bring a quote out from the navy times in an ncis interview with an iraqi commander, iraqi commander a part of these operations he said when asked directly by the ncis interviewer if they had seen gallagher kill the wounded prisoner, al jubouri said no, why we do this? there is no need for this. why all these accusations against your brother from other seals about him stabbing this wounded isis fighter? >> so my brother was the leader of that platoon. answered pushed his men hard as any chief would do. you know that being in combat. the leaders are what really dictate everything. there were a few malcontents the guys that did not like being reprimanded for not wanting to engage in combat. >> sea hard charger. >> he is extremely hard

charger. my brother as intense and as fierce an operator as you can get, which you should be if you are fighting an enemy like that. he is a navy seal. is he a chief what you are supposed to do. griff: guy yodo.griff. pete: guy you want on the line. >> absolutely. rewarded for leadership. it's unfortunate a few of the underlings disgruntled criticized for not being combat ready fabricated stories and that gets to the point of what you said, i mean, if you look at the allegations on their face, there is just appear array of things that our family and him as well thought were laughable when we first heard them. there is no possible way. one, just due to the circumstances that he was. in. pete: yep. >> they would have been like the iraqi general by the way. a general who said. this there is 20 people arranged in this alleged incident. no one saw it my brother will have multiple of his teammates, multiple come forward to say this never happened. we were there. we know why the guys were making these accusations and it's false. pete: yet he is in jail

trial will proceed. we reached out public affairs by the way said they cannot comment because it's an ongoing investigation. where does this go from here? >> so eventually a trial date will be set. which we're eager to do. my brother has been eager for a long, long time now to clear his name and actually have witnesses to come and testify on his behalf. i want to get to the point of the way this military justice system which is a misnomer in a way is where you are almost guilty until proven innocent. my brother had these rumors alleged to him. he was told not to speak about them and then they raid his house and then they arrest him. and my brother has literally spent, and, again, we are talking about a decorated warrior has been in the bringing fobrig fortwo and a ha. my nephew and niece it 20 visit him in jail two days ago. pete: why would someone make that up? >> that is a question we have been struggling with for quite a while. we think in some ways vin particularriveness or careerism. as you are well aware

reputation is everything. if someone accuses you of not being strong enough and not willing to take the fight to the enemy your career is over. >> it's true. where can folks learn more. >> justice for eddy.com. a site we have set up for my brother. you can donate. one thing we are asking most folks to do weaver thankful at this time in history we have a president we are hoping can come to our assistance that would look at the grievous nature of his treatment, of the abuse of power by ncis and prosecutors and come to our aid. pete: justice for eddy.com. you have done your brother proud for sure. >> thank you. >> thank you for your service. we will follow this closely. >> thanks a lot. pete: hollywood tackling the border crisis as murphy brown in unfunny way mocks ice. >> you guys cannot barming in here like this. if you don't get out of this truck, i will spatchcock you. pete: dan bongino here to react coming up next. plus, on a fox news alert, chaos erupting in paris right now over gas prices.

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>> it seems the truck belongs to a carlos and maria gonzalez, undocumented immigrants, outstanding removal order. >> you guys cannot barge in here like this. i know you're used to dealing with people who are scared and vulnerable but if you don't get out of this truck, i will spatchcock you. >> what did they do except

give up everything so i could grow up in a country that we thought was the most compassionate place in the world. >> sorry, kid. we're just following government orders. griff: spatchcock. i feel like she maybe used the wrong word there i don't know. why don't we ask dan bongino former secret service agent, former nypd officer. host of the dan bongino podcast and author of "by gate" the attempted sabotage of donald j. trump. good morning. what do you say, dan, about all of this murphy brown stuff? >> well, let me say first, i had no idea at all what spatchcocking was and thank god the producer stephanie told me in my ear. i thought it was a mistake too something to do with a spatula. it's an allusion toward something you wouldn't want to have done with you if you are a human being. there is no issue out there that hollywood and the intel jennings and academia misread more on than immigration.

can i prove it to you, guys. look what happened in this election. the democrats did well, right in the midterms. they had a good day. wasn't a great day historically. decent day. went back in the house, lost in the senate. and did okay in the governorships. look at what happened. the progressives out there who ran on open borders-type platforms and this immigration policy's anti-donald trump, they lost, they got crushed badly, as a matter of fact, the republican in florida ron desantis, who ran a commercial with his kid building the wall. literally, got 44% of the hispanic vote. they are misreading america terribly on this issue because chaos is not a brand and chaos at the border does not sell. pete: dan, what are they missing about ice? ice does a lot of great work but a lot of things like sex trafficking, drug trafficking, things that you want to abolish ice and call them dehumanize them. you are dehumanizing the great work that they do as well. >> well, what's really grossly offensive about this is having been a former law enforcement officer at the city level with the nypd and the federal level with the

secret service, these are men and women who get up every morning. pete, listen, you know, like you when you were on the military side, nobody is getting rich there, all right? nobody does it for the money. they don't do it for the fame or the glory. they do it because of a commitment to service. these are very intelligent people who could go into the private sector and do quite well for themselves. what do they do? they defend our borders. they defend our borders against child trafficking, drug trafficking, narcoterrorism. terrorism. and you have this hollywood crowd who wants to use them as some kind of a foil for some sick political message? you want to make it even worse? a lot of ice agents out there. a large swath of them are hispanic men and women in this country as well. rachel: that's exactly right. >> it's really offensive. rachel: it is offensive. you have to give the left credit for playing on the culture side. listen, conservatives spend a lot of money on think tanks and the left actually does a good job of going in to the culture, the sitcom

is not very nuny but it will impact some people. i think you are right, dan, they are on the wrong side of the issue. the american people don't agree with a lot of it, this is a good way to start to way some minds and conservatives are just not in that space at all. griff: you know, dan, there is somebody on the left who has a bit of a nuances problem, hillary clinton. you may remember her on the immigration in europe. she tells the guardian. this i think europe needs to get a handle on migration because that is what lit the flame. well, she takes some heat for that so then she has to tweet this. i have always been and remain a staunch advocate of comprehensive immigration reform that's true to our values and treats every person with dignity, provides a pathway to full and equal citizenship and brings people into the economy. fixing the family visa backlog and upholds the rule of law and protects our borders and national security. then we dug back into the treasure trove just to hit

you one more time with her statements in 2015 and 2016, here's where she was at that time, listen. >> i want to open up the opportunity for immigrants to be able to buy in to the exchanges under the affordable care act. of the people, the undocumented people living in our country, i do not want to see them deported. i want to see them on a path to citizenship. we believe that cooperation is better than conflict. unity is better than division. bridges are better than walls. [cheers] griff: dan, can you translate? what is her position? >> yes. let me use the hillary clinton translator here because i worked with hillary for a long time. hillary is like -- i was watching a show once and have this thing called quick change where people walk out with multiple outfits on and i don't know if you have seen this and they change in a blink of an eye. called like quick change. this is hillary. she is a political quick changer. what he what she does you have to understand about

hillary clinton, she is running for president. get's get that out of the way stop pretending she is not. trying to triangulate. she thought given the far left lean of the democrat field in 2020 that she may be able to triangulate and move down the middle a bit and take centrist position with what happened with europe and massive wave of my grants and taking the middle position. she was rebuked immediately probably by far left donors and activist groups and dials it right back. hillary's principles are what she thinks she needs to get elected which makes them non-principled. that's what hillary does. she has changed and quick changed over and over and over and tried to reinvent herself. i think she is trying to find a pathway to 2020. guys, it's crystal clear right now. she is at least very seriously considering another run for the presidency. i personally, knowing her and her people, i have absolutely no doubt. why would she change so quickly on twitter. she didn't say anything that controversial.

europe is unquestionable had problems with massive waves of migration and the inability to absorb people into the population. it was nothing controversial about that. yet she immediately dialed it back. pete: stated fact has to retreat from that. griff: every time dan comes on we learn something hillary is running in 2020. >> i learned what spatchcocking was so i learned something new today, too. griff: all right. dan. pete: have a good day. appreciate it. >> thank you. rachel: we turn to a fox news alert. violent protests are breaking out in paris over rising fuel prices. police are using tear gas and water canons to disburse the thousands of angry mobs. some even throwing fire crackers at officers as they call for president emmanuel macron to resign. the price of diesel most commonly used in france has gone up about 23% since last year. students could soon skip school to protest. a maryland school district is reportedly considering a

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pete: welcome back. president trump urging lawmakers to bipartisan piece of legislation. rachel: rests with the senate after the house passed a bill in the spring. griff: ellison barber is in our nation's capital with the latest. good morning, ellison. >> this bill is called the first step act the revised version which has the support of president trump introduced by three senate republicans and three senate democrats. among other things, it would eliminate the so-called stacking regulation which makes it a federal crime to

possess a firearm while committing another crime, it be a crime of violence or something like drug trafficking it would allow judges to reduce mandatory minimum for nonviolent drug offenders and change three strikes penalty from life in prison to 25 years. president trump pushed for it on twitter yesterday writing quote: criminal justice reform has a true shot at major bipartisan support. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and senator chuck schumer have a real chance to do something so badly needed in our country. already passed with big vote in the house. now, majority leader mcconnell previously told reporters they would see what the support is like if the bill has the support of at&t least 60 senators. he said he had would be open to moving it forward. but also cautioned that there isn't a whole lot of time left in this legislative session. he said that republicans have a number of other items on their legislative to do list. some conservatives say now is the time. >> let mitch mcconnell bring it to the floor.

let's have a vigorous debate about it now is the time to get this done because god forbid the senate has to negotiate with the house. >> there are some disagreements on this. divisions among republicans. republican senator tom cotton is one of the most vocal critics of the bill. he called it a misguided effort to let serious felons out of prison. cotton published an op-ed. he began by saying legislation produced during lame duck sessions are risky because legislators are least accountable. rachel: thank you, ellison. fired fbi director james comey vowing to resist testifying in congress behind closed doors. house judiciary committee chairman bob goodlatte is here to respond in the next hour. pete: plus, dogs are proving to be a veteran's best friend. a wounded marine corps vet and service dog devin here to tell us about an organization that's pairing

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♪ pete: in the company of heroes here. dogs are proving to be a veteran's best friend thanks to an incredible pairs canine companions with vets free of charge. rachel: charlie was injured when ied detonated losing his leg below the knee. charlie graduated from canine companions for independence. service dog. now the organization has expanded its program to help vets with ptsd. pete: here to tell us all about it is marine corps

veteran charlie and service dog devin. you searched in iraq and afghanistan for country tray. explosive ordnance tech. ied went off. that changed your life. first of all, tell us about the program and how it improved your life after that. >> the program is incredible. so, they bring you down. they have this fully trained dog and they train you how to be a dog handler. what the dog does is provides you your independence back in life. you know, whether i'm in my wheelchair or prosthetic leg is off. rather than hopping around, grab things. can he turn my lights on. can he open the door. recently had a serious back injury that's from the ied detonation and devin -- everything in new york city. devin would open the door and give it to the dog and he would bring the food to me. he is an amazing animal. rachel: i can see he loves you and you love him. you spend every day with him, right? >> yes, yes, devin and i are never apart. rachel: what kind of task can he do exactly or can he

do one for us here? >> definitely. devin has several commands he can do on a daily basis. most of them makes my life a lot easier. can he pick up a wallet off the ground if i can't bend over and get it. he turns lights on and off and opens doors. pete: can he pick up my wallet. pretty thin. i will throw it over here. rachel: black friday yesterday. what do we think? >> devin, get, you can do it. yeah, yeah, you can do it. yeah, you got it come on. you got it. oh, good boy, come on, good boy. come here. rachel: what a good boy. thank you, good boy. thanks, buddy. thanks so much. yea. rachel: now the program has gone beyond disabled -- now it's helping veterans with ptsd, correct? >> yes. rachel: how can a dog like this help someone with ptsd. >> dogs have different commands, a service dog and a dog specifically trained for post-traumatic stress. the post-traumatic stress

dog has multiple commands designed to help the veteran work with their daily lives. if it's entering the house before the veteran goes in to ensure that it's clear. the dog tries to search and find everything. you know, and the biggest thing is being a companion, right? so the dog is out there. they are attached to you. they might be behind you and act as a barrier between other people and your daily life. pete: i have definitely seen it work for guys, no doubt. where can folks learn more about this program. >> learn more about canines for companions.org. they don't just help veterans but people with disabilities. it is that gold standard for service dogs. pete: awesome cci.org. charlie, thank you very much for your service for being here and devin, you are a good dog. i don't say that often. devin is a good dog. rachel: devin is. pete: thank you both for being here and happy thanksgiving. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. pete: angela merkel taking on nationalism at a veiled swipe at president trump not

so veiled actually. does she really believe fighting for your country ♪ patriotic. rachel: house judiciary committee chairman bob goodlatte and franklin graham both here live in our next hour. stay with us. ♪ you're unbelievable ♪ ♪ ...

>> the caravan gathering on the southern border in tijuana. the president has certainly made it a priority. this is a real national security issue right now. we need to do something immediately. there are a lot of us willing to go that distance and shut government down. griff: murphy brown is back. >> we received a call from a neighbor here about a taco truck , undocumented immigrants, outstanding removal order. >> what do they do except give up everything. >> the progressives out there they lost. they are miss reading america terribly on this issue. pete: president trump urging the senate to come together to pass a major prison reform bill. >> if they don't pass criminal justice reform now you'll now

have to negotiate with nancy pelosi. pete: michael moore now calling for the shunning of trump supporters. cancel the bridge to racist, you know, they have to be shunned. >> it's really lazy political commentary. these are people that don't want to get into your political ideology. pete: golf legends squared off in a one on one match for $9 million. phil mickelson walked away with the win against tiger woods. >> ♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ pete: this show has had a slow effect on me infecting me with christmas cheer. rachel: [laughter] pete: this is outside of the fox square formerly known as the plaza we've got christmas trees out there, we'll show you how to decorate them but my argument to start the show and griff, rachel awesome to have you here as always is that it's still thanksgiving and the leftovers

are still in the fridge. i'm going home to eat some and i want that but christmas is just coming in, i guess that's okay. rachel: well some of the viewers sent along photos with their e-mail here is gary who sent this photo saying it's full on merry christmas in this house. pete: there's a little griffin the photo. griff: yes, yes! rachel: it's a beautiful tree i love that. griff: theresa, her family decorates for christmas on thanksgiving day. way to go theresa. pete: cather sent us this photo adding the outside decorations go up today and we start wearing christmas clothing. rachel: i love it! pete: you can't argue with that. rachel: i expect to see socks in the next couple weeks from pete and griff on the holiday. pete: we'll bring you christmas game. get me out of this weekend. rachel: in our house we don't decorate until advent but we actually normally cut down our tree on the saturday of thanksgiving so that would be today except we're here in new york city. so next weekend. pete: i've done it multiple

times. rachel: the only way to do it if your husband is a lumberjack athlete. griff: almost time to get the elf out on the shelf. pete: i've never cut down a tree the first time so i brought like four different tools like i didn't know what to do, i brought an axe and a big small and a small saw. rachel: you can work on that. pete: thank you for being here happy thanksgiving, merry christmas on this saturday edition but we've got news. griff: there is an issue on the southern border of the united states which is going to be at the front and center of your morning this morning, tomorrow morning and really the rest of the week it is the caravan that has grown to thousands not hundreds, and it is a problem that is not only an issue for the americans on the border but also the mexican side of the border, the tijuana mayor there saying listen, we've got a problem we can't deal with it here is a quote that the mayor of tijuana said he says look, we don't have sufficient and necessary infrastructure to adequately attend to these people that give them a decent

space. he also said he wouldn't spend tijuana citizen's money to deal with this overbearing problem it is the same problem i saw all the way from the guatemala border and that was an oversized caravan of central americans bearing down on the resources of the mexican towns and cities and now it's on the border of tijuana. rachel: and it's a story that the media has been very reluctant to tell because the narrative is that only, you know , racist or cold hearted people on our side of the border are concerned or even its been said this is just a political theatre that it's all a hoax and it's really not a concern. pete: a big deal. rachel: and yet we have a mayor, and many mexican citizens saying that this is really difficult for us to handle and those are the same things that were being said by mayors and leaders on our side of the border but it has fallen on deaf ears. pete: president trump continuing this call for a solution on the border. we tweeted this yesterday said

republicans and democrats must come together finally, with a major border security package which will include funding for the wall after 40 years of talk it's finally time for action, fix the border for once and for all. now i've been remiss in the last couple of hours for not thanking the troops and border patrol agents who are on that border, on thanksgiving. rachel: that's true. pete: the whole christmas season on christmas day they will be there so your families are home safe so thank you to these guys and all the guys that do that job and greg gutfeld said you update your iphone, every three weeks your forced to update it and we've not updated our immigration policies in decades let alone a wall, catch and release the chain migration all these issues talked about. they need to be updated because people have figured out how to exploit the process. rachel: that's absolutely right. pete: claim asylum all these ways they can now come in illegally and stay and we don't know where they are or who they are building a wall is a step in

that and i hope i don't know why i hope any more. i don't know if mitch mcconnell at any point has believed in a border wall that they find a way in this lame duck session to actually address it. democrats probably never will. can republicans get out of their own way? probably not. griff: it's not just in tijuana the story is also across the pond with our allies if you look at what angela merkel is weigh ing in, she's saying she'd be willing to give up some sovereignty. pete: in one of her big speeches on wednesday she said that. griff: we'll put this up. she said in this day, nation states must today should today, i say, be ready to give up sovereignty because of course in an orderly procedure. either you're one of those who believe they can solve everything on their own and only have to think about themselves that is nationalism in its purest form this is not patriotism, a shot at the president. pete: well it's a very overwhelming phrase. give up sovereignty in an orderly fashion. the bureaucrats tell you your

borders don't matter any more just give them up. welcome anyone in. that statement if you let it soak in it's why she was reject ed and what people reject ed when they voted for president trump. patriotism is nationalism, when you're defending the idea of your country. rachel: right well here is president trump reacting to some of this he continues to defend. pete: this was him in the past right? rachel: right of course but reacting to the whole idea if that's going on in germany and in our own country where they are saying nationalism equals racism and he's saying no nationalism is my way of talking about patriotism and here is the statement. he says -- president trump: i'm very proud of our country. we cannot continue to allow what's happened to our country, we can't let it happen so i'm proud, i'm proud of our country and i am a nationalist. it's a word that hasn't been used too much. some people use it but i'm very proud. i think it should be brought back. i'm somebody that wants to help other countries of the world but

i also have to take it, we have to take care of our country. rachel: saw that video by the way of your kids in front of the flag saying the pledge of allegiance. are they patriots or nationalists what are we raising here people? pete: i'm hoping i'm raising both because in this day and age when the elites are trying to erase our borders they're one of the same and that's why we had sebastian gorka on the program earlier. he said it was a bit rich for the german chancellor to say what she said. listen. >> nobody who wears the title chancellor of germany should be lecturing anybody about nationalism, forever, for the rest of history. it was american nationalism that saved the world from the nazis of the third right and the imperialists of japan and the idea that a germany chancellor lectures us now absolutely outrageous. pete: you know who else lectures us about this? hollywood. griff: [laughter] pete: and time and time again made terrible comparisons.

we've played on this program times when hollywood elites will cause i.c.e. agents similar to members of the third rank in nazis well they didn't go that far in this particular episode of murphy brown but you missed it because you weren't watching it but murphy brown on cbs in their episode they portrayed an i.c.e. raid. this is the episode on thanksgiving look at how they portrayed faithful servants of their constitution enforcing the law. watch. we received a call from a neighbor here about a taco truck , parked in a residential area. notice the taillights cracked ran the plates, seems the truck belongs to a carlos and maria gonzalez, undocumented immigrant s, outstanding removal order. >> to not barge in here like this. i know you're used to dealing with people who were scared and vulnerable but if you don't get out of this truck, i will patch cock you. >> what do they do except give up everything so i could grow up in a country we thought was the most compassionate place in the

world? >> sorry kid just following government orders. rachel: so a lot of people may not know what that cooking term spatch cock is and that actually means to cut a chicken in half, butterfly it, with a knife, so i don't really think this is a really nice thing to say to our border patrol or i.c.e. agents. pete: to utility p it kindly. rachel: in fact i think this is a real insult. the whole, i watched the whole episode and i just thought wow, they just are so out of touch with what these agents actually do. griff: well it actually didn't end there. she went on, you know, the whole thing i don't nowhere they pulled her out of the closet. back in the 90s she got into it with dan quail and now she's tackling this thing in her later thing where she goes on the show this time she's a morning show host. she really weighs in and tries to tug on your heartstrings, despite the realities of the rule of law we had mike slater,

whose a radio host out in southern california and here is what he said about this murphy brown episode. this is a very contrived plot to ultimately culminate in this super blow speech for murphy brown about how she thought we were a compassionate country but we're really not and of course that's all nonsense. there are more i.c.e. agents that deal with human trafficking and drug and weapon smuggling than deal with deportation. i bet more people or more lives were saved from human struggling in the 30 minutes of that murphy brown episode than fake people were deported in the episode itself. i.c.e. saves lives. pete: well said, if you watch the end of that other clip too, the fake i.c.e. agent they have playing on that murphy brown episode said i'm just following government orders. it makes it sound like the government is issuing orders beyond the law. following the law, which was written by congress and enforced by the executive, it's a very big difference and you should be grateful as he said, for the

fact that they're standing on that wall enforcing their laws while you're home safe with your family and a lot of people in their gated communities and private schools are never effect ed by the ramification ramifications. rachel: also we are the most open to immigrant country on the planet. we receive more immigrants than any other country on the world so on the idea that we're not open and generous and loving towards partnerships is just not true. we're going to turn to some quick headlines now. we begin with a fox news alert. violent protests are breaking out in paris over rising fuel prices. police are using tear gas and water canons to disburse the thousands of angry people and some throwing firecrackers at the officers as they call for the diesel in france has gone up about 23% since last year. and black friday shoppers run for their lives during a shooting inside of a new jersey mall. >> get down, get down!

rachel: was shot in the wrist and it's unclear what caused the gunfire. police say the victim is refusing to identify the gunman. no arrests have been made thus far. and, real and fake christmas tree sellers are pining for your purchase. they're creating new online ads to convince you that their trees are greener and greater than the other. >> now black christmas that can't be manufactured. >> so just a family together and making memories that'll last a lifetime. >> it is christmas! keep it real. [applause] rachel: we asked which trees you prefer and i like my artificial tree it's a breeze to decorate and mg says real tree keeps in touch with nature. and those are your headlines. that's a big debate, real or fake? pete: just the smell of the real tree that i love. rachel: you can also spray that on there. pete: okay and you could convince me otherwise. rachel: you can spray on your

butter, spray on your pine smell griff: you got to go real. pete: welcome to america. james comey and loretta lynch the handling of the hillary clinton e-mail case but comey wants to testify in public. why? house judiciary committee chairman bob goodlatte on the judiciary committee chairs it joins us next. griff: terrifying moments as a home explodes into a fireball, what happens? we've got that coming up next. id saved hundreds. that's a win. but it's not the only reason i switched. the geico app makes it easy to manage my policy. z

pete: welcome back. well former fbi director james comey vowing to fight, resist a subpoena, to testify before congress if it's behind closed doors. he claims he's happy to sit for a public hearing. griff: so will the judiciary house committee get the answers they need? pete: let's ask the committee chairman of that committee congressman bob goodlatte he joins us now chairman thank you very much for being here and happy thanksgiving and merry christmas. >> thanks, guy, same to you. pete: you got it thank you very much. a lot of attention being paid to

this potential hearing, you say that it should be behind closed doors. the former director wants it in open hearing, make your case for why it should be behind closed doors? >> sure well i think it's particularly telling that the former director of the federal bureau of investigations said he would resist a lawfully-issued congressional subpoena because it is in do in the same fashion that every investigation he ever conducted as an investigator and as director of the federal bureau of investigation which is behind closed doors. why? so that other witnesses can't hear the same testimony, why? because we have hundreds of questions to ask, and they'll be asked by former prosecutors and investigators who are professionally trained to do that. when you have an open hearing in each member of congress gets five minutes to ask questions, you can't dig deep into the important issues that have been raised in this investigation, by the other witnesses we've interviewed by the inspector

general who has a 400 page report, by mr. comey himself whose written a book and maybe he wants to sell more copies but he needs to do this in a professional fashion and once we're done we'll release that transcript to the public, so everyone can see everything that he testified to. it needs to be done in a way that goes with how an investigation is conducted. griff: now mr. chairman, comey's attorneys have said publicly that they're going to fight this do they have a case? >> well they don't have a case for doing that. what they're going to try to do is run the clock out on chairman gowdy and i because they know our terms expire at the end of the year. that's an effort because senator lindsay graham who is expected to be the next chairman of the senate judiciary committee and ron johnson chairman of the senate oversight committee have already said they're going to pick up on our work, take all of the information that we've gathered and move forward on this, as is the inspector general and ultimately i hope a

special counsel will be appointed and i guarantee you that special counsel is going to interview mr. comey and do it in a way that allows for an in depth questioning of all of the issues that mr. comey needs to answer for for how he conducted himself in 2016 and early 2017. griff: so mr. chairman, you're pivoting to the senate. is it your belief then that the incoming chairman of your committee i believe is jerry nad ler will not pick up this issue? >> i am very concerned that mr. nadler, who has not done anything other than criticize this investigation since it started a little over a year ago , is not going to follow through and it's too bad because you know, democrats should be just as concerned about mr. comey's actions in 2016 including his decision to reopen the hillary clinton investigation and tell the whole world a week before the election so there's a lot for mr. comey to answer for and everybody

should be interested in a complete interview of him and not simply a show hearing where we don't get to the bottom of these matters. pete: one would hope you'll probably get a lot of grandstand ing. mr. chairman, thank you very much for your time we appreciate it this morning. griff: thank you congressman. pete: more fox & friends on the other side of this brief commercial break. that skills like teamwork, attention to detail, and customer service are critical to business success. like the ones we teach here, every day. and customer service are so did you gkind of. car?ccess. thanks to navy federal it only took 5 minutes. so vets can join? oh yeah. how do you kind of buy a new car? it's used. it's for mikey. you know he's gonna have girls in that car. yeah. he's gonna have two of them. great benefits for veterans

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who work from home to boost the economy, workers must agree to stay for one year, and finally, $7.5 million that's how much a bargain hunter found inside a storage unit. they bought it for just $500 from the star of the tv series " storage wars." the new owners get to keep 1.2 million of it, not a bad deal if you can get it. pete: pretty good deal. rachel: i think so. pete: thanks, griff. well president trump continued his push for bipartisan criminal justice reform on friday. president tweeting this. he said really good criminal justice reform has a true shot at major bipartisan support. senator mitch mcconnell and chuck schumer have a real chance to do something so badly needed in our country already passed with a big vote in the house would be a major victory for all rachel: so why is criminal justice reform a good idea? well joining us now president of samaritan's purse and the billy jam evangelist ic association reverend franklin graham always an honor to have you on the show

, welcome. >> thank you. rachel: so tell me why you think the eval again it call community and christian community should get involved in this criminal justice reform issue? >> well first of all, we do need reform. no question about it, and this is not a perfect bill but a step , i think, in the right direction and to have bipartisan support, who thought that would be possible. this is tremendous, and we need reform when it comes to the sentencing, judges need to have more latitude when it comes to the sentencing not every criminal is the same, not every person is the same, the circumstances are different, they need more latitude and lee way. we need to have better training no question. we're not getting people prepared to leave prison to go back into the real world where they can get a job and they're marketable. these are things that in this bill that can be of great help and also their access for more christian organizations to work behind the wire. you see, i believe the only real

hope for anybody, you, me, prisoners, is god. it's only god that can change a heart and that happens when we put our faith and trust in his son jesus christ and i hope that the prisons will open up to more christian organizations, because i think christian organizations can make a real difference, because the message that we have is the message of redemption, a message of hope and a message of faith and god's son jesus christ pete: debate over something like criminal justice reform, reverend really comes down to a christian debate too, justice and grace which one holds more sway is the sense that we've gone too far in terms of justice and should be giving more grace how do you frame it in theological terms? >> well that will be debated i'm sure a century from now. no question, i believe in grace. we all do. we all need god's grace. at the same time, god is a god who is a just god, and he's a fair god, but he's also a god of

judgment and we have to understand he loves us but he's going to judge us for our sin and if we repent and turn from our sin and believe on jesus christ god will not hold us th ible for our sins but in the prisons, we need to grow grace, we need to show love and compassion, but at the same time there has to be justice. we have to account for our actions and if we do something wrong there's a penalty to be paid, but some of these penalt ies, i think, have been far too stiff for the crime that's been committed. griff: reverend your father is buried in a casket built by prisoners. >> that's right. griff: is it your sense that partisan politics have gotten in the way of doing the right thing and how important you think it is now that we have entered the holiday season i've been saying merry christmas all morning that we come together. >> well for the congress to come together, on this bill, i think, is great. yes, my father is buried in a

casket built by prisoners, these were murders that built his casket, but they had been redeem ed by the blood of a lamb. these men who are murders have put their faith in god and his son jesus christ, they were still in prison, they had a life sentence, but their lives were changed and they built this casket for my father. god can change a life, all of us , he can change our hearts and in the prison you can have all of the reform bills you want out there but unless a person's heart is changed by god through faith in his son jesus christ i don't have a lot of hope but we need to have access to these prisons in angola the warden down there king, he was probably the best warden in the history of our country. he turned that angola prison which was the worst prison in america, the most bloody prison in america, and he turned that whole prison completely around and it was really the christians in the state of louisiana that

helped him turn that around and it's a great example. i just wish more people would go down to louisiana and look at angola prison. rachel: it's a beautiful story. pete: wonderful message thank you very much reverend. on a lighter note i need a judgment from you reverend. real tree or fake tree for christmas? rachel: [laughter] >> well, i live in a part of north carolina where they grow real trees so if i said fake trees i'd have trouble. griff: that a way, thank you, reverend. thank you very much. pete: merry christmas to you. rachel: we'll have a debate in wisconsin on that one later. pete: what an important message. rachel: a beautiful message. pete: for all of us this christmas season. thousands of migrants camping out in tijuana waiting to cross the border near san diego. a new director of field operations tells us what they're doing to keep our border safe. griff plus it's time to get that christmas tree up whether it's fake or real and we've got the tricks for your decorating expertise. you don't want to miss that.

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>> you're a mean one, mister. rachel: what is happening to holiday classics a new op-ed claims that the new grinch movie is warming kids into weak-minded snowflakes. the grinch is warming kids into weak-minded snowflakes. pete: that's the headline. gutted grinch warming kids here is part of the argument from the new york post about the new grinch movie. it says, we have to roll to it i can't see it. there we go this holiday season kids are discovering a new, more considerate less scary grinch a grinch to take home to your mother these is a grinch filmed with zero point beyond continuing societies destructive habit of protecting kids from harmless and potentially useful stories instead we insist on shielding little ones from the harsh realities of the world so when they finally enter it they will prefer the warm embrace of

their parents basement. i went and saw this movie with my 8-year-old we had a little time on our hands went and saw it. i won't go that far the grinch is still pretty grinchy, but you're right. they soften him up a little bit but if you listen to the words of the song, it's actually kind of mean. look up the lyrics, so they have like a rap song that's kind of glazed over but if the grinch is less grinchy, then the transformation is less impressive. like the more grinchy he is the more interesting it it is the fact that his heart grows two sizes larger and he saves the village but in this film you're like well he's not that bad he will probably come around whereas you're like there's no way this guy can be redeemed. rachel: we were all raised on the old version of the grinch and we turned out okay. pete: i'll say this it's not that bad. it's still a fun movie. but they soften him up. griff: i have to go see it. rachel: we'll get to headlines

which aren't so soft. new documents reveal disturbing details in the case of the man convicted of murdering his family. chris watts mother-in-law immediately suspected him in the disappearance of his wife and two daughters. the marriage was crippling as he was having an affair and his wife was 15 weeks pregnant when she was found dead. the colorado family was reported missing in august. a neighborhood is in ruins after a house burst into flames look at this, a home explodes into a fireball in st. paul, minnesota. the homeowner is in critical condition. neighbors say flames shot as high as 50 feet into the air, as the blast blew out windows near by. authorities believe it may have been caused by gas leaks. two dogs and a cat were thankful ly also rescued. a sixth grader's note helps a new york man find a hit-and-run driver and you'll never believe who it was.

andrew sipowits shouted out to the anonymous sixth grader for saving me a couple thousand and the note describes when he school bus hit the car and took off and he tracked down the company now paying for his repairs and the bus driver was fired and some people are breaking christmas tradition by ditching their green trees for colorful ones like this. you can expect a growing trend of these bright and colorful trees this holiday season. see what you guys all think about that and those are your headlines. rick? do you have weather for us? rick: we do have weather. but look at this. >> actually, hasn't yet but we're hoping when we get home. rick: is that 20 a piece or 20 each? >> i guess we'll see. rick: good answer 20 each we love you grandpa. take a look at the weather map and show you what's going on travel delays we'll have a few across parts of the east a big storm actually quite a bit of rain associated with it anywhere you see the yellow dots that rain storm moves on in out

across the west, more moisture moves in tomorrow move forward take a look at the satellite radar picture actually we'll take a look at your temperatures chilly but not that bad. we had all of that cold era cross the northeast and that for the most part is gone 38 in new york, 25 in maine so a little bit chilly but 72 in tampa moving forward you see this big storm that we have all across parts of the east be very careful because we have some icing going on as you zoom in a little bit here we had icing across parts of the carolina mountains this caused some problems for traffic and we're seeing that now, spread in across especially i80 of pennsylvania. pete: all the way down to the freeway level well done. griff: now look earlier we show ed you how to pick the perfect christmas tree and maintain it for the whole christmas season but what's the best way to decorate your tree? pete: here with decorating tips, danny sue and nyc trees decorat ing manager thanks for being here. >> thank you. pete: so give us the basics

you've got the tree, you're home , what do you do? >> well you got to start with lighting the tree of course. pete: start with the lighting got it. now there's a couple of problems some people end up with a pile of lights in one section and a big black hole in another or you get the ring around the tree. pete: i'm always guilty of that. >> which if that's your design choice might not be so bad but i would say the method is you want to split the tree in halfs or thirds start at the top and stick in that female end so that you're ready for a lit topper if you would like and zig zag all the way down and go in-n-out of the tree. pete: zig zag one side and then the other? rick: doesn't make sense so you're not trying to undo it afterwards. >> as long as you don't wrap or cross the strings when you come around the other side you'll have no issues. pete: i've never done that. it's a good technique. >> and easy enough to add another string. pete: i always don't have enough so i'm trying to stretch it. >> we recommend about 100

lights per foot of tree, so -- rick: is that one strand? >> yeah, one strand is about 100 lights. griff: is there such thing as too many ornaments on a tree? >> i don't think so, never. i think it's all a design choice when it comes to decorating a tree you want to start with a theme and go from there. it's kind of the time of the year where you get to be artistic and creative and do whatever you want so if you just go with your own style choice and spread them all out you want different textures and get really creative with how you create the tree. we've got the classic christmas here, or our glamorous golden tree here, or we've got our winter silver and blue, so a lot of options and if you like disco make a disco tree. griff: that's great. thank you so much, we're going to throw it back to you rachel while we decorate these trees which is hard because they're already decorated. rachel: great ideas out there. i'm a little bit of a director when it comes to the lights i like the techniques she's teaching you guys so we have to

move to some news. thousands of migrants now camp ing out in tijuana, waiting to cross the border near san diego. the new director of field operations there tells us what they're doing to keep our border safe. and, black friday was all about the big store blowouts but today we're celebrating small businesses, because this is small business saturday. all of the products are made here in america and they join us live, coming up. >> ♪ ♪ ♪ we live like no one's watching, ♪ laugh like there's no tomorrow... ♪ ...and welcome you...

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griff: welcome back the city of tijuana declared a humanitarian crisis since thousands of migrants overwhelmed the city waiting to cross the border near san diego. rachel: is how is san diegoss

politicos border patrol preparing for the caravan search pete: here to weigh in crust oms and border patrol director of field congratulations for san diego, pete flores. thank you very much for your time and your verse how are you preparing for what's gathering just south of your border? >> well good morning, we continue to prepare internally and with our partners in assess ing our vulnerabilities and our infrastructure that we have at our ports of entry and in between the ports of entry. continued to build obsticles, sure up fence lines, build obsticles at ports of entry or any gap that we see potentially as a concern for us. we watch the caravan movements continue to watch their message ing acts and anything that they're potentially doing in regards to protest, movements , shifting in mexico, continue to watch their transit as they move into the mexicali area and then into the

tijuana area. from an internal aspect, customs and border protection we have shifted about a thousand employees between arizona and california so we continue to push fourth into these areas in order to ensure that we have enough employees here to protect and secure our borders at our ports of entry. griff: so director are you putting that eastward shift in place because you're concerned that this large caravan may choose not to come to the port of entry legally but rather to try and come illegally? >> so we have been preparing all along for both as we surge our forces from arizona into california, we have been preparing for both and that is why we've been looking at our fencelines and that is why we've been looking at our ports of entry in working with the department of defense on making sure that we are closing any gaps that we see out there with some obsticles and infrastructure.

obviously, what we are or what we are requesting and what we are expecting is the caravan members to follow the orderly process of applying for asylum but we are preparing for the worst obviously. rachel: director on the other side of the border the tijuana mayor has expressed a lot of concern just now hitting the news cycle and saying we're really worried that we don't have the resources are you working with them on the other side either to get intelligence and information about what to expect if they do cross or how is that working the relationship between the two cities? >> so here we are working on a regular daily basis with the governor of mexico on assessing the situation of the migrant caravans on where they are and how we work closely together to ensure an orderly process to the border, so the partners they've been partnering with us on a

consistent basis and a show of force on the mexican side of the border to ensure that caravan members do not impede traffic, coming up into our legal lanes of traffic northbound and trying to really control that crowd to ensure it's an orderly process. pete: pete flores, thank you very much for updating us and for your time and your service. rachel: thank you. griff: thank you, director. pete: black friday was all about the big store blowouts but today we're celebrating small businesses for small business saturday. all the products made right here in the usa they join us live, coming up. >> ♪ born and raised in the usa ♪ a little bit of water, it really- it rocked our world. i had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. we called usaa. and they greeted me as they always do. sergeant baker, how are you? they were on it. it was unbelievable. having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa-

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pete: welcome back a couple of quick headlines for you you might want to think twice about ordering that online bargain

shoppers are complaining about several retail sites going down over glitches on black friday. the website that faced technical problems include big ones, amazon, facebook and j. crew. many blame too much traffic on the site and payment systems going down, might want to plan ahead for black friday and while checking out online, you'll notice a few extra dollars on your bill on cyber monday. thanks to a supreme court ruling in june, more companies are now required to collect sales tax for online purchases . the amount comes down to where people live, and where they're shopping, uncle sam getting his chunk over to you. rachel: that's right. so earlier, we hi lighted some amazing small businesses that are all made in america, for small business saturday and now we're back with a couple more. griff: here to kick us off is dana peters the co-founders of both marines thank you for your service, guys what do we got here? >> so we started mill spin a couple of years ago with a couple cnc mills and we're looking for products that we couldn't find out there, you

know, you can find things that represents your military service or hats but they are all made in china or they were cheap so with his background in engineering he kind of took us into the opportunity to machine these parts out. >> we started as an industrial supply company so we're kind of making boring stuff and when we realized that we're the guys in the family that are really difficult to buy for so we started making the kind of stuff that we wanted so this -- griff: so this is a fox news alert marines with real creativity because you're going from industrial engineering to hand grenade dog poop bags like that is what happens when you let marines be creative, right? >> exactly so everything that we make is we brand it as heavy duty and so just having the grenades to pick-up your dogs trash with. rachel: i'm taking one of those with me. >> our coasters are bullet proof. rachel: we also have mark here

and he's selling freedom hot sauce which i'm going to try one of these to see if it's too hot. how did you get started on this? >> actually i just got tired of all of the novelty hot sauces out there and that's just vinegar and heat so i wanted to make something with my favorite flavors of cayenne, mesquite, smoke, lyme and garlic and that's the result i get and i appreciate that. griff: not too hot? rachel: no it's perfect so you get this where? >> online at freedomhotsauce got.com. it's the taste of freedom. griff: not only that because if you get thirsty you can open up a coke, maybe a beer and you guys even made a fox & friends hat as well. we do a lot of custom work and so we get a lot of companies and businesses that want to put their logo on the hat so we made one for you guys. griff: how does it look? >> beautiful. rachel: head to fox & friends .com for the hot sauce, taste of freedom, all of these things that you see up here,

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