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room. highlights include a row of red trees and bulbs with the words of her anti-bullying initiative. a >> bill: how beautiful that is. wow. good stuff. >> sandra: are you ready for this? >> bill: merry christmas! get used to it. the >> sandra: we are there already pretty things for joining us, everybody. "outnumbered" starts now. >> harris: we begin with a monday fox news alert. president trump threatening to close the entire southern border with mexico. as a migrant crisis is reaching a new level, now. officials shutting down san diego's border crossing for several hours yesterday after hundreds of migrants started rushing the fence. officials are saying that some even threw rocks at border agents. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. fox business and kurt dagen mcdowell, adrienne elrod, and joining us
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for the first time in the center seat, louisiana congressman ed house majority whip, steve scalise. congressman scalise has this out, a powerful new book. "back in the game." it chronicles his recovery after being shot and gravely wounded at a congressional baseball practice in june of last year. a beautiful book cover and message on the inside. great to see you. >> steve: agreed to be with you, thanks for having you. i hope you all had a good thanks giving premine was wonderful. >> harris: all that food. >> dagen: i was reading some of the book before the show and had to fix my eye make. incredibly moving and powerful. we are lucky to have you here. the >> steve: integrated bigger, thanks. >> harris: allowed to get a preview will get to the news. san diego's border crossing reopen last night after yesterday's incident, and sources within the home line of security are telling fox news that approximately 50 migrants were able to make it across the border illegally. then they were apprehended. exact numbers are expected to come later today.
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kirstjen nielsen described yesterday the shutdowns "after being prevented from entering the port of entry, some of these migrants attempted to breach legacy infrastructure along the border and sought to harm personnel by throwing projectiles at them. we will not tolerate this type of lawn status , and will not hesitate to shut down ports of entry. for security and public safety reasons. that response was slim, tweeting "tear gas across the board against unarmed families is a new low." president trump treated today, "mexico should move them back to their countries. dubai plan, by bus, anyway you want. but they are not coming to the usa. we will close the border permanently if need be. congress, funds a wall!" congressman scalise, we are at a new point.
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some are calling it a new low. just a new level. what you call it? >> steve: i call it securing the border. if you look at what's going on over there, when you see people attacking law enforcement officials of the united states of america, they can't even control is coming in. this is not just family seeking refuge. in many cases, they turned down asylum offers in mexico. are you really seeking asylum when you march or storm throughout the country to try and come here? >> harris: i want to ask a quick follow on that. when you turn down asylum in another country, what does that country do in terms of the paperwork? do they let us know, because some of them are coming from three countries away. it may have happened more than once. what's kind of the chain of command in terms of what we are then told about individuals? >> steve: i'm not sure how much of that is passed on to us. we know that they offered asylum, whether or not they filled out paperwork. they just stormed through.
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they marched and stormed across mexico's southern border to come, ultimately, to the united states border. again, when you get to the point -- there are places, ports of entry, president hermas talked about this. you can go to formally seek asylum. but if you are not trained to do that, if you're trying to storm the border and a tag law enforcement personnel along the way, these are not families in the traditional sense of a mother and a father and a son trying to come and escape a tyrannical dictatorship. these are people who literally said "we are coming to your country no matter what, and we will attack your law enforcement personnel along the way." is that really what you want to see along america's border? resident trumpet securing the border. >> harris: >> melissa: some of d fit the description you said. americans look up to to to cope with different visuals. the cover of "the new york post" showed a mother with two small kids in diapers and flip-flops. that really breaks her heart. some of it would show some of
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the violence going on. do you think americans are smart enough to realize that both things can be true at once? >> steve: absolutely. when you see this, president trump has said "look, there's a way to seek asylum in america. attacking law enforcement personnel and trying to storm across, regardless, in a different fashion, is not way to come here." people know this illegally and an illegal way to come into the united states of america. we should be about securing a border. i'm glad the president is following through with his promise what he said when he ran. this was a big issue during the campaign, news like the president based on part in his promise to secure the borders. americans want a secure border and a legal process to come to united states. not attacking law enforcement personnel as your means of trying to get here. >> harris: i followed up with the congressman, he adrienne, because i wanted to get that part of the conversation in. some of the critics have said these people don't have any other options. the argument also has been "they are coming several countries
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away, so are they seeing options along the way?" of the congressman has been able to fill in part of that gap. >> adrienne: you will always have bad actors who are not seeking asylum, doing it for different reasons. here are the optics, terrible for president trump in part because of "the new york post" cover that you described, melissa. that had the mother and her two children wearing diapers with teargas being thrown at them. this is not something -- this is not what america feels like. i do hope that democrats and republicans will come together. we obviously have a huge problem at the border. we need stronger border security. i think everybody can agree on that. building a wall is not necessarily the solution. >> harris: but it might help. he thought it might help facing this, that's when the board of all conversation began in earnest with dollars behind it. >> dagen: personally, i look at that horrible photo of the mother and her two children and i see child abuse.
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again, if you are an american who believes in personal responsibility, that's the choice the parents make, quite frankly. number two, president trump has been criticized with has talked about mexico. we have a very strong relationship with mexico. i think that if you look at the comments that were made by the mayor of tijuana, if you look at the mexican interior minister saying that the government plans to reinforce the police presence in tijuana, and there by mexicali, and the migrants would try to cross the border illegally were identified and will be deported immediately from mexico. also, administration working with the incoming president, andres manuel lopez, trying to figure out a way to keep the migrants seeking asylum -- have them wait in mexico. there's legal issues, to have their weights in mexico while ty have a claim educated. we have things in mexico that seem to be working in a number of ways. >> harris: i want to find point
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that that's the leadership on the hill. so the criticism from me has been "why not congress? why haven't we been able to, with our elected officials, get something done questionnaire" you heard adrienne calling for a bipartisan answer. i think at this point we just need an answer. if you've got a visual of all you gather together, and with that would look like on the border, that the pretty strong message that it's time to do something medially. >> steve: i agree with the president that we need to act. we have tried, by the way, multiple times, to pass bills to address border security and interior security problems. and the daca problem. we have had two different variations, by the way. if you didn't like one version, we had another. over 221 republicans voted for that. not one democrat voted for either solution. we want a political answer. look, president obama used teargas. there have been attempts to secure the border by both presidents, by all presidents. not enough has been done.
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president trump has said "let's go all the way to secure the border, both interior and including building the wall." >> adrienne: the one point i would make is that he controls the white house. the last two years, nothing has happened. >> steve: they have a 60-foot requirement of the senate, which i don't agree with on many of these issues. but that is the rule over there. not one democrat has been able to play ball. that's where you've been. >> adrienne: but they tried. >> steve: when pelosi was >> less time and you had super majorities in the house and senate, and present obama, not e time -- >> harris: why is that question mike that's an excellent point. that shut down talk about. democrats, chuck schumer, leader of your people. your political people. senator schumer saying that he was willing on the dock issue to shut down the government. our republicans willing to do that? >> steve: we have been saying, let's fight to get proper funding to build the wall. their negotiations are going on right now over end of your
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funding. in a few weeks, this all comes to a head. the homeland security department's budget expires at the end of november. one of the big negotiations we are in the middle of right now is over whether or not we can get more money to build the wall. i support that. we ought to do it. >> melissa: do think it will get done? >> steve: it ought to. i support it. you have had no cooperation by democrats in the house or senate to want to solve this problem in a fair way when all kinds of bills have come to the floor. they voted no on every one of them. >> harris: fascinating. i loved your question, by the way. i'm going to borrow it. >> steve: you can use it. [laughs] >> harris: the list of potential democrat contenders for 2020 is getting longer. the possible contenders and whether a crowded field will help or hurt. at this to a list of new investigations of the top administration -- when democratn january, a top democrat's vow to haul in the acting attorney general. is that necessary? ♪ speak of the american people
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incoming >> melissa: the incoming chair, adam schiff, increasing his feud. vowing to bring acting attorney general matthew whitaker before congress. >> we are going to bring whitaker before the congress, assuming he is still in his position at the time when democrats take over. we may bring him and whether he's in that position or not, to find out the answers to these questions. one of the key decisions that the attorney general will make, whoever is in that role, is when bob mueller puts together a report on, among other things, obstruction of justice -- will that report be shared with the american people? what would be shared with congress? the american people need to know. they deserve to know whether their president is interfering with the impartial administration of justice. >> melissa: former bush attorney general, michael mckay c, says that whitaker's job is to run the doj, not community with lawmakers. >> he is not there to community with congress. he is there to run the justice department.
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for him to be simply talking to congress, that's not his job. it wasn't my job when i was there. if adam schiff wants to find out what his intentions are, he intends, i guess, to subpoena him. >> melissa: in the meantime, whitaker has a poorly told associates he won't cut mueller's budget for it he told them last week that his appointment has "no effect on his ongoing investigation." i wonder if this is a trap for democrats. because this is an interim appointment that has them twisted in knots and making threats. to me it seems almost like a set up, a clever set up by the trump administration. what do you think? >> steve: they are trying to make claims about something that isn't happening. if you look at what whitaker has been doing, he has let mueller continue with his investigation. a lot of us feel that it's time for mueller to come for it if there's any findings, which we found a thinker there's been no collusion that we found. if he has on the, show it to the mega people.
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if not, it's time to wrap this thing up. but at some point you wonder how far this is going to go. is it a witch hunt, or see actually actually trying to reach a conclusion based on what his initial intent was? that was safe there was an occlusion. we have seen none. if he seen some, it's time to show it. >> melissa: on that point, critics would say you are on team trout. you didn't see any, that's not a surprise. how do you respond to that? >> both republicans and democrats are part of that in the station. they have not come forward with any information of conclusion. by the, you've seen leaks all throughout regarding this investigation. if there was anything that was something really damaging, you would have already seen it leaked out. if they have got something, show it to the american people. what's wrong with transparency? but if you don't have anything and you are just going to continue going on some kind of witch hunt, people are saying "okay, wrap this up, show us what you have if you have something." but there's no interference and whitaker is not trying to interfere. >> melissa: along those lines, president trump tweeting "when mueller does his final report,
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will he be covering all the conflict of interest in the preamble? will he be recommending action all of the crimes of many kinds from those on the other side? whatever happened to -- and when will you be putting statements of people involved in my campaign who never spoke or solved russia during this period because direct so many campaign workers inside at the beginning ask me why they have not been called. they want to be. there is no collusion, and merely knows it." harris, professor dershowitz thinks of the different. >> harris: legal scholar and group sing, politically, the president might be sorely surprised -- and i'm paraphrasing -- with the amount. the volume, if you will come of detail in this report. politically damaging potential. he doesn't say directly that there will be any sort of criminal involvement or indication, here. which is kind of the point, isn't it? the president can handle his politics the way he wants to. but, if there's criminality.
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that would be different. you are talking about leaks, congressman? it leaks like a sieve, everything on the hill. i don't know how the doj or other agencies may treats those leaks. but it's a problem. we might know something, we might not, adrienne. i know you have a different thought on that. >> adrienne: what adam schiff is doing here is he is simply exercising what is about to be his authority of oversight. as the incoming head of the intelligence committee for congress. for the entire congress. look at -- whitaker has made a lot of comments that are biased, especially toward the mueller investigation. it's congress' constitutional authority to make sure there is a check and balance and make sure that if whitaker is acting ag, he's looking at the constitution as what he's upholding as opposed to president trump. >> harris: a quick push back. the president has called them the 13 angry democrats on the team of bob mueller. there is no shortage of
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information on how may be some of them donated or voted or whatever. we could guess how they vote, we know how they donate. but there were a number of people who were on mueller's team who are politically ilk in one direction. so, if you want to call politics, we can start there. >> adrienne: certainly people are entitled to have their own political opinions. they should not be under investigation. >> harris: do you have a problem with a being that heavily in what direction? >> adrienne: first of all, the two members of his team you're referring to were removed when those text messages came forward. he took them off the investigation. >> harris: i'm talking about all the of a democrats. i will tell you what -- if it's found that there is no collusion or criminality, wouldn't help the case that all these democrats found it? >> adrienne: bob mueller was confirmed unanimously by the senate twice paid maybe three times. he is a pastor publican. he is conducting very by the board investigation, and to train and situated people can have their own personal political opinions -- >> harris: really quickly,
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president trump can take this one trumpet away from congressmn schiff by nominating his next attorney general. he added to the majority in the senate, "get it done. get whitaker out." >> melissa: it's down to the wire now it's congress is facing a high-stakes deadline to pass a spending bill to avoid a pretrial government shutdown. president trump to manning border wall funding to get his signature. also suggesting that they may need to close the entire border. amid the migrant crisis. how will all of this play out? we will debate. ♪ lobster fisherman is the lifeblood of this town. by 2030, half of america may take after stonington, self-employed and without employer benefits. we haven't had any sort of benefit plans and we're trying to figure that out now. if i had had a little advice back then, i'd be in a different boat today, for sure. plan your financial life with prudential.
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hines says that if there is a shut down it won't be the democrats 'assault. >> it really is in the president's hands. it's going to be a real political problem for him. it will be the democrats and the house of representatives shutting to the government. it will be the president. >> dagen: welcome to the president has fewer than 40 days left to work with the republican-controlled congress that gives them incentive to push hard for border wall funding and gives democrats incentive not to play ball or demand something big in return. republican senator joni ernst said's that are working to avoid a shut down. >> i would rather that he didn't. again, we as congress need to work really hard. one, to make sure we are funding our government. that is our job. as congress, our job is to fund the government. we also understand that our constituents have stated quite clearly that they want to see our border protected. the president has been quite clear for a number of years. we need to do our best, as well,
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and congress to make sure we are protecting our nation and following up on the president's promises. >> dagen: congressman, how does it play out? we touched on early prewhat happens with a portable funding? does the government get shut down? >> steve: democrats have been fighting border security for a long time. think of it -- we funded 70% of the government. when we are talking about a shut down, is a theoretical term. the military is funded. that's an readily important piece no. our troops are going to get paid. in fact, the first time in nine years of the deferment of defense has been funded for a full fiscal year. that's an important commitment. we are talking about the departments homeland security's budget. in a porton agency. the real issue at stake is whether or not we are going to fund border security, including the wall. i say we do it. democrats have been fighting. when he see what's going on, trying to attack law enforcement
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officers illegally when there is a legal way to come into our country, they choose to try and attack law enforcement officers. it shows you why it's important to protect our border. this is an important fight. >> dagen: i can tell you why, melissa, the president will not let the government shutdown. because the stock market could tank. it has been taking, and all three major markets are underwater here today. we know that he is focused on that. that would be -- that would certainly be bad for what he sees as one of his most important popularity or polling indicators. >> melissa: yes, he is very much focused on the stock market. i would ask the congressman, do you think you are more likely to get a deal with nancy pelosi in place? she is great at whipping votes. she is a rare opportunity here if she is the speaker, to have a seat at the table and claim victory if anything gets done. he wanted to make a deal last time. it seemed like they were talking about one at the white house, and schumer and pelosi left and everything fell apart.
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what is your sense on, with nancy pelosi help get a deal done if she could get some credit for it with the president? >> steve: the opportunity is there. you saw back over a year ago, the president and chuck schumer had an agreement. they may be less two hours. the radical left went nuts and said "we don't want anybody reaching any kind of agreement with the president on immigration." it gets back to the point when president obama was in office with a super majority. they didn't want to get a deal done then. a deal as they are to be had. it's got to include securing the border. the problem with the last big immigration bill was 19 these six. they promised border security, and had amnesty. they got the amnesty, they never followed through on the border security. >> melissa: is your side willing -- >> steve: it wasn't about amnesty, it was about resolving docket. they had an agreement with chuck schumer on how to do that, and then chuck schumer walked away. if they want to come back to the table -- >> melissa: same deal? >> steve: i'm sure something similar to that would be a possibility. again, they've got to be willing
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to come to the table and secure the border and funding the law has to be a big piece of that. >> dagen: adrienne was shaking her head. i don't know if you knew she was doing that. the >> adrienne: [laughs] i wanted to gently push back on something you said. chuck schumer and nancy pelosi both made it clear they would compromise some way on border security if there was a path to citizenship for dreamers. president trump -- we saw it all on national television, they were sitting in the white house. it was nationally televised, having this conversation that the president changed his mind and went back on what he would be willing to compromise on. >> steve: the only change his mind after chuck schumer walked away from the wall funding. >> adrienne: because the macaques are not going to allow a full wall to be built. >> steve: what you're saying is they don't want any kind of deal. >> adrienne: no, we don't want to wall. >> steve: amnesty in the system is something we have do different votes on the house. every democrat voted no. there's a way to solve daca, and the present been willing -- >> adrienne: not for a full
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wall. >> harris: just real quickly, nobody wants to build a full wall, because you can't. there are areas along the border where that would not suffice. you can't build along those. the president has said that those areas to be short. >> steve: well, it's a wall post border security. >> harris: funded, democrats in power at that time. moving on. now, to the show down between house republicans and former fbi director james comey. comey has vowed to cite a subpoena to testify behind closed doors next week. now he is saying he would prefer to testify in public to avoid what he calls "selective leaks." the oversight committee chairman trey gowdy has offered a solution. watch it. >> the remedy for leaks is not to have a public hearing where you are supposed to ask about 17 months worth of work in 5 minutes. i think the remedy is to videotape the deposition. videotape the transcribed interview. that way the public can see
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whether the question was fair. they can judge the entirety of the answer. there is no person on the plane who tries to discover the truth of five in increments. i can't think of one that does it on national television. >> harris: why not? one of the most egregious moments we have seen was a former employee of the president 's walking to the situation room for her book and turn on her phone. why not record this? >> steve: i think what chairman gaudi and sharon goodlatte have been talking about makes a lot of sense. if anybody knows anything about leaks, it's james comey. for him to be worried about that is ironic. you got a point that out. anyway, i think this idea is a good one because five in increments we saw during the kavanaugh hearing. you can just start to get the kind of a back and forth to get to a solution. are you going to answer a question that needs to be, that needs to be answered in 5 minutes constructive how to do that on an issue that's important. go to a closed hearing, but have it all videotaped up, where you
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can have a longer interaction. you can actually get to the questions being answered. that's what chairman gaudi has offered. i think it makes a lot of sense. >> harris: dagen, do you think that stops people being honest because they know that they are on -- that they are being recorded? >> dagen: what would stop you from being dishonest, what would make you honest, is knowing that you could have charges filed against you if you are inconsistent and you lot in front of congress. i think there's been a problem of equal application of the law under, quite prickly, jeff sessions running the department of justice. there were times when there were subpoenas served to brian paglia on oh, who was the tech guy for hillary clinton. he didn't show up for the subpoena and jason chaffetz went to jeff sessions and said "you need to file charges against this guy for not honoring the subpoena." at jeff sessions wouldn't do it. he wouldn't touch it because it was a hillary clinton issue. we know that based on his book. but i know that james comey's
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lawyer has said they are going to fight anything behind closed doors, unclear if you would concede to a videotape. it's hard on videotape for jim comey to give his his a book ia great gift for the holidays. he loves the spotlight. that's why he potentially wants to be in an open hearing. >> harris: you could segue into classified versus unclassified information. i would imagine you could also just stop it. right? >> steve: you can go go to a classified setting if there is classified information being discussed. the rest of it can be out of the public domain. there is a way to do this, if james comey wants to come forward and be able to talk about what happened. >> melissa: what seems like the real difference is whether it's for political purposes. james comey the chatty cathy wants to be on camera, calls into radio shows, whatever you can do. so i'm not spicy once again camera once again. >> steve: but when it comes time to actually answer the questions questions by people asking them who have information
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that deserves -- >> melissa: i would ask you, the congressmen and senators all grandson band chemist, as well. when it's behind closed doors -- we don't know, we aren't there -- is a very different? >> steve: even the five minute set up. i'm on the energy and commerce committee. we question vice presidents and cabinet secretaries. 5 minutes goes by and critically quickly. if you want to have a longer discussion, both options have now but offered to. if he doesn't want to go into either set income it makes you wonder what he's trying to hide. >> dagen: he's trying to run the clock at. >> harris: was get adrienne into the conversation prayed just a quick last word. >> adrienne: i don't really have a strong opinion on this. i think transparency is always important in the settings. is james comey going to peddle his book? by having some sort of open -- i don't know. >> dagen: he's the norma desmond of law enforcement. he's ready for his close-up.
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>> melissa: democrats expected to vote wednesday to choose their house leadership. nancy pelosi still the front runner, she will once again be speaker. congressman jim hines says it's hard to argue with the results under her leadership. >> when the top three people and house of representatives are in their late 70s, it would be good for us to have a more diverse group generationally. let me tell you this -- an attack on nancy pelosi was, prior to the election, that she such a drag on the electoral prospect of democrats that you can't win with nancy pelosi. holy smokes, do that criticism turned out to be wrong. >> melissa: a growing number of democrats said they would post vote against her are dropping their opposition. that includes brian higgins and massachusetts' stephen lynch. alexandria ocasio-cortez lashing out at democratic moderates in the "problem solvers caucus." they say they oppose pelosi
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unless she supports rules intended to reduce partisan gridlock. a copy of cortez tweeting nine dems are trying to hold the caucus hostage if we don't ask if the g.o.p. have been friendly rules that will hamstring health care efforts from the get-go. they said is here to get things done, not negotiate with an administration that deals children and god's people's health care. what you say to that, congressman? >> steve: and they say that republican inside habits and contradict all my congress. it is interesting to see this player. this will be about 234 democrats. one races still have been decided pete ultimo that mean she has an 18 vote margin. i think she gets the votes. nine people can't hold the conference hostage, because it would take 18 to block anything. and that kind of democratic majority. in the end, i think she will be elected speaker. she is well known and a lot of parts of the country, but there are a lot of these numbers that won their seats saying they
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would not vote for nancy pelosi. i think everybody's going to be watching in january when that first actual vote happens and somebody has to stand up and announce a name. if you campaign saying "i'm not going to vote for nancy pelosi speaker," are you going to actually follow through or is your first boat going to be a lie to the people that elected you? >> melissa: what's better for the party, to have her there, or not? does it say for the bend when when she's out front? is there the next group coming in? >> adrienne: i think is important to have her there because a lot of new members. nancy pelosi is a very effective leader. she knows her caucus very well. she is seasoned, she is experienced. there's nobody but who can corral caucus together. at the same time, though, listening to jim, i completely agree with him. there are a lot of new members of congress and the next generation coming in. it's incumbent upon leader pelosi, especially if she is the next figure of the house, which i think will happen, to give them a seat at the table. >> melissa: but she has in the
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past, that's been the criticism. >> adrienne: for you have people like cheri bustos, for example, running for the campaign committee chairmanship. people are coming into this fold who are paving the way for the next generation. i agree that with jim hines and with a lot of other people saying, there's a lot of new faces here. when it's time they'll have a seat of the table. elisa come of them. >> harris: i want to quick follow-up to that. why can't we do both? wake as she mentored somebody? may be a deputy. is it she's been in power for so long for it i mean, loudly prayed i mean actually on purpose, not just somebody who came by the office and got a quick pep talk for nancy pelosi. why not do both? it would be real interesting. and why are you laughing, congressman? >> steve: she has not been open to sharing power. ultimately it's about who is running the house of representatives and the new congress. >> harris: okay. >> dagen: really quickly, "the wall street journal" writes
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"it's important for the democrats remember that they ran moderate and won in the midwest and the swing districts that were unhappy with president trump." and now you've got to get in the back of the train. they are going to be writing in the caboose. that was the journal's editorial in terms of policy, because they believe that nancy pelosi's going to be pushing $15 minimum wage, price controls on drugs, taxpayer paid family leave, tax increases on businesses and high earners. more social spending, and a public option for obamacare. expanding medicare. it's going to go less, less, less, less. for the nonoccurrence moderate. >> steve: nancy pelosi said she wants to raise taxes. when they say single-payer health care, what they mean is that everybody would be on medicare. which come by the way, medicare scheduled to go bankrupt in the next eight years. speech of it all sounds very expensive. a >> steve: it would go bankrupt quicker and get rid of
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>> dagen: for democratic primary field starting to look like it's going to get pretty crowded. more democrats say they are considering running for president in 2020. that includes minnesota's editor amy klobuchar, and ohio senator sherrod brown. >> we are seriously thinking about it. we are seriously talking about it with family and friends, and political allies who have come to me about this. >> people are talking to me about this. i think, in part, because i worked really hard to go not just where it's comfortable but where it's uncomfortable. i did well in a number of those places that donald trump one. >> dagen: it comes as no surprise that new jersey senator cory booker says that he is also considering a run for president, telling a new jersey outlet the people across the country are urging him to run. this is going to be awesome to watch. isn't it? how many people is going to be running for the democratic nominee? >> steve: i can't wait to see
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this incredibly big field start to pick each other apart. ultimately you will see some sa big shift to the left. socialism is being discussed, and people on socialist platforms are getting elected over the democrat side. i think that's where they're parties going to go. that's not where america is. president trump has got a great economy to run on already. we are going to see what happens in the two years. at least he will have some real compliments to tout. they will talk about taking away the tax cuts at families, hardworking families, are enjoying right now. trying to slow the growth down and move toward a socialist agenda where the country is not. the three that is the danger, that you have two dozen people on a debate stage pushing one another further and further and further left. the congressman mentioned that bernie sanders medicare for all bill, which does get rid of private insurance. that alone should be a hot-button issue to stay away from. but you've got elizabeth warren, you've got kamala harris signed
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on to it. basically, people who want to move left. >> adrienne: i think what you'll see is a robust debate about the policy issues that matter to american families. as opposed to what we thought, unfortunately. in the republican primary to an accent, which was a primary where people were cutting each other down. so, we are a big tent party. there are the bernie sanders wing of the party come of elizabeth warren wayne, and the moderate wing which i'm from. mitch landry was somebody i'm keeping my eye on, from your home state, who i think will be an extranet candidate. i think he would do very well. kamala harris, as you mention terry mcauliffe, another state -- a is more blue and now it's purple. former governor may be running. i think you will see is a debate about the policy issues and the direction that we want our country to go. >> harris: only one thing matters -- congressman, what does it take to be donald trump if you're a democrat? >> steve: and i think you will
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see anybody come out of the field he could beat him. i think will be a choice between two people june . just like it wasn't against donald trump against a unicorn or mother teresa. it was against hillary clinton p. people made a clear choice. it's a very socialist platform as he does discuss. preview or knock wood's people want to see the tax cuts taken away. you don't want people to lose their health insurance they would get through a company that i like. people on medicare who do want medicare to go bankrupt paired i want to help save it from bankruptcy. they do want twomillion more people jumped onto medicare. ultimately, that's what the democrats' plan looks like. they're going to have to run real issues and issues in in te center-right country and a socialist agenda. president trump is running a really good economy. other greater competence, by the way, on foreign policy that he gets very little credit on that he deserves. >> melissa: i wish it would be about issues, but it will be about cold of personality. a messenger on the issues that
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matter. >> adrienne: i want to see more and thing sprayed the majority of the candidates are not running on a socialist agenda. >> dagen: but they have a kind of people who order hollandaise on a hot dog. that's their problem. [congressman schooley's surviving that congressional base, after the shooting lester. on the struggles in the long road to recovery. it's amazing. he's back. stay with us. we will talk about it.
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>> melissa: we all remember that terrible day, june the 14th of last year where a gunman opened fire during congressional baseball practice. congressman steve soliz shot and wounded, he nearly died. he's written a book about his ordeal and his incredible recovery. one of the things in the book you talk about, what it was like on that day. take us back if you can. >> steve: we are at a baseball practice, the night before the game. you're not thinking about anything beyond just having fun on a baseball field. before any of us knew what was really going on, i had been hit, went down and i vividly remember everything that happened. it seemed like hours, but those minutes during the shoot out until the time where i was put
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in an ambulance, i was switched from an ambulance to a helicopter. all the things that happened during the shoot-out, i never got to see the shooter, i was crawling away and everything gave out. i talked about how the prayer gave me a sense of calm. i've got a young daughter and the first thing that came to my mind, don't let my daughter walk up the aisle alone. and then i thought about my family, i wanted to see my wife and kids again and i pray that that would happen and i. my security detail would be successful in carrying out their duties and ultimately it was them who shot the shooter from being executing everybody on tt field which was his intent. i remember those moments until i was put on a helicopter, i was in a coma for three days. i was able to piece together, i tell the book through the eyes of the heroes that saved me.
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the security agents, the doctors, the miracle that happened on the field. the things you can explain except -- ultimately how i was able to come back and buy it back to be able to come back to work and be able to do the things i love again. >> melissa: that's why it's called "back in the game." it's that journey that have been so many inspirational to so many people that saw that. thank you for being here today, along with some of the folks that were there on that day are watching this as well here in the studio. thank you. we'll be back here at noon eastern tomorrow, here is harri harris. >> harris: breaking news at this hour, border crisis. president trump doubling down on his threat to close the entire southern border after u.s. agents fired tear gas on hundreds of migrants rushing a key crossing with mexico. this is "outnumbered overtime," i'm harris faulkner. another tense day along

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