thursday nights. fully back here tomorrow night ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome her "tucker carlson tonight." once again, for about the fourth night in four nights in a row, there's just a lot going on in the news. up ahead, we'll have details about the dangers lurking in the central american migrant caravan, the one just across the southern border in tijuana. the caravan is not what they told you it was. we also do what it -- we'll tell you what it is. the question of voter suppression. phraseuppression is an. you are hearing a lot lately from democrats, and it seems likedd it's 1956 again. his voter suppression actually happening in america? we have the numbers on that.

plus with kristin all my christmas us, the left is mounting an attack on, naturallh the red nose reindeer. first,t, tonight, the big news. president trump's former personal attorney michael cohen pleading guilty to lying togr congress. cohen conceded he was intentionally wrong, he lied about the deeds of the aborted moscow real estate deal when he tells her to the senate intelligence committee last. year. cohen's plea was of course big news on cable television. the president responded to it as well. he called the cohen "week" and "not a very smart person." that's objectively true, of course. it's also worth asking why anyone would hire a weak, dumb lawyer. someday we'll get to the bottom of that. but for now, let's consider what we have just learned about how washington works. apparently, it is now an enforceable fella need to lie u.s. congress. on one level, that is good news. we should take our own laws

seriously. functional countries do that. nations and the climb set up sanctuary cities and ignore their own borders. nor it is implausible that michael cohen might have broken this law or really any other law. nobody knows him as a shock by the allegations. if he was accused of running cannibalism ring, you have to at least take a charge seriously. anything is possible with that guy. so three cheers for law and order. l the problem is, if you are going to enforce statutes, you have to enforce them clearly and evenly. the law has to apply to everyone. otherwise, it's not really the law, it's a political weapon. michael cohen is facing five years in prison for telling congress something he knew was false. how often does that happen in washington? if if you watch c-span, you know the answer, constantly. all the time. there are almost never consequences, by the way. according to one study, between the second world war and 2007, a total of only six people were convicted of lying to congress. six people in 60 years.

in other words, the law is not enforced. that is why people break it so often. watch this sworn testimony from 2013. this is not someone you haven't heard of. this is the undirector of national intelligence, jim clapper, assuring that congress under oath that the nsa absolutely does not spy on american citizens. speaker does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. >> tucker: yeah. clapper lied. he's a liar. no debate about that. and yet he wasn't charged for lying under oath. in fact, clapper got richer after he retired. cnn hired him as an analyst. thing much the same happened to jim comey, the former w fbi director. in 2017, he claimed again, under oath, that he had never been an anonymous source for news stories whileew he worked at the

fbi. watch him tell that lie to the congress. >> director comey, have you ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the trump investigation or the clinton investigation? >> >> never. >> have you ever authorized someone else at the fbi to be an anonymous source in news reports about the trump investigation over the clinton investigation? >> no. >> tucker: yeah, well according to comey's longtimelo deputies, who would know, that will be forming fbi director andrew mccabe, what comey said on the tapes you just saw is totally untrue. so comey lied to congress. but nobody cared. jim comey went on to get rich as a ponded selling his book. the same people rooting for michael cohen's destruction for lying consider jim comey a hero. and then there's former cia director john brennan. he lies constantly, that is well documented.

in 2011, for example, brennan claimed that drone strikes overseas had never, to his knowledge, killed a singlee noncombatant. that was a total crock. in 2014, brennan lied and said the fbi had not broken into the conspirators of senate staffers. then last year, under oath, before congress, brennan said this: . >> do you know if the bureau ever relied on the steele dossier as any part ofti applications, proceedings? >> i have no awareness. >> did the cia relay on it? >> it was not in any way used as a basis for the intelligence community assessment that was done. >> tucker: yeah, that is a total law, a flagrant lie, and a significant one about something that affects the life of this country, and yet, you know how the story ends. brennan was never charged with a felony for lying to the congress. in fact, just the opposite. washington rewarded him. brennan is now an analyst for nbc news. he could be on the air tonight telling you why it is so vitally

important that s michael cohen s charged with lying to congress, because we really can't have that. rule of law, rule of law! blah, blah, blah! to notice a theme here that connects all these stories? there is one added simple. the well-connected can do pretty much everything they want. they can lie to congress with impunity, and they do. they can lobby for foreign governments without bothering to register, and they do. if they are rich enough, they can even, i don't know, {molest children. none of this is a defensive michael cohen. he's a creep. he may wind up in jail. but if cohen winds up in jail, let's just hope he is the first in a long series of prosecutions. if theat law is applied to michl cohen, it has to be applied to people who have lied about things that actually t matter. jack eber mob knows a lot about washington, he's been here a long time. he's a former lobbyist and he joinss us tonight. jack avery marz, you have seen both sides of this. you've been in a position similar to the one michael cohen

is now charged with a crime under the lights, and you have also operated freely in washington. do you think that i'm i overstating the case? is the law evenly applied in this city? >> no, it doesn't seem to be evenlyly applied, or anything close to evenly applied. i think this is one of the things that upsets the american people, everywhere i go when i speak, people now, instead of ranting against corruption, as they normally do, they've identified this as really one of the big problems. if you have, on the lab, series of people that -- the list is too l long to reside on the air. they have seemingly committed unbelievable crimes. the clinton foundation, et cetera. instead of being punished or prosecuted or indicted, they are running for congress, like donna shalala and others. it seems certainly that the justice system in america, even under republican presidents, is geared to go after people on the right and to ignore people on the left. again, that is not to excuse michael cohen. i don't know what his deeds are

and we'll see what they are. but it seems that people on the left are doing far worse than that, nobody said anything about that. >> tucker: it also seems like the slowest gazelle gets eaten. michael cohen isle dumb. i can say that as someone who knows them, and not personally popular, and he's attached to a very unpopular president. he seems like a very natural target, where someone like jim clapper, who is seen as this wise man, this graybeard, can lie about something deeply significant, about breaking the law. the nsa is not allowed to spy on americans and he gets a tv contract. have you seen -- can you think up in your many years or decades here, an example of someone who is really powerful being punished for breaking the law? >> no. i can't. i can't think -- certainly since watergate, even the people who were punished in watergate really weren't very powerful, powerful. >> tucker: staffers. >> exactly. >> the problem for michael cohen, he's a gazelle running in

the wrong pack. if you are running in a left-wing pack, no matter where he is in effect, because there aren't exactly brilliant gazelle is an attack either -- >> tucker: exactly. >> that is more productive for some reason. >> tucker: so that is not -- i just want to be clear, for the fifth time, i'm not defending whatever crime michael cohen is accused of committing, it sounds like -- he admitted it, okay. he should be punished. but it does seem like that is corrupt. that is not just as when a law is only applied selectively. >> well, it's corrupt and it's corrosive of the view of our system among the american people. there are a lot of people --th even people on the left i have talked to, who say, it doesn't seem like things are really being fairly applied, particularly the epstein situation, which is absolutely abhorrent. there is somebody who is molesting children and facilitating it by other powerful people and they cut him a deal for 13 months in a county jail, i guess, where he got to leave a deal six days a week.

wow. >> tucker: but they also -- they confiscated his address book. it's online and you can look on it and it's fascinating prayed. a lot of people you when i don't know personally are in them. i don't think any one of them has been charged with anything even the prosecutors knew exactly who he was hanging out with. >> from what they say, the deal he signed protected any potential coconspirators, which is also astonishing. how do you sign a deal like that? i know plenty of people i was in prison with who would have loved to it have a deal like that. >> tucker: if only you benefited from that. >> tucker: jack abramoff, thank you. jerome corsi appeared on this program the other night to describe what he believes are robert mueller's efforts to entrap him. >> as a special prosecutor, they blow you up, they do that's what i call a perjury trap. they ask you a question, they have material they won't show you, you have forgotten about it, they say, you just lied because this email you forgot about from 2,060 improves your current memory is wrong.

i mean, it's a memory test. they may accuse you of lying. it's completely rigged and it's politically driven by clinton operatives who have an agenda. >> tucker: now corsi says he's asked his attorney to draft a criminal complaint of his own to bring against mueller for misconduct. how do we assist those? a constitutional law professor joins us tonight.g elizabeth, thank you very much for coming on. if we take three steps back, i'm a little bit surprised at this late in the process, we are still talking about michael cohen pleading to lying about the date of a perfectly legal real estate transaction that did not even comee to fruition, and jerome corsi had 72, this doesn't seem significant. it seems petty and not relatede to russian collusion. what does this tell us? >> it tells us how desperate mueller and his team have becom become. after almost two years of investigating, spending millions

of taxpayer dollars, with a team of about 15 really aggressive, experienced lawyers, there is no they are there terms of substantive evidence of trump-russia collusion. so after going hard at high level trump confidants and campaign officials, michael flynn, george papadopoulos, carter page, paul manafort, rick gates, and michael cohen, the best they can manage to do is get single counts of perjury out of some ofof them. it t shows you these process crimes are all they have got, they don't actually have any evidence of trump-russia collusion, which was their mandate. >> tucker: they are playing up the term "russia." maybe they have videotape of trump and putin in the sauna dividing up the world or something. whop knows. but as off right now, it seems like there is a lot of "russia!" plenty of real estate dealing -- "russia" -- and then once you come down,do you think, is thata crime? why are they telling me this?

what does it mean? >>ea it's not a crime, you are right. about michael cohen supposedly lied about was the timing of the trump organization's pursuit of this real estate deal in moscow. he said it ended in january 2016 and now he says it ended in jun. it doesn't matter whether it is january or june of 2016. it was perfectly legal to do so. in fact, it is perfectly legal to do so right now if the trump organization -- >> tucker: wait, wait, wait a second. you are saying he was off by five months? i mean, that seems like a five-year sentence to me. you think itt would be a fair sentence? >> [laughs] i don't know. asked george papadopoulos. i think he is serving 14 days in prison right now for being off by about a month on the timing of his conversation with that maltese professor. but it doesn't matter because papadopoulos' meeting was perfectly legal to do.he

trump organization's pursuit of a real estate deal in moscow was perfectly legal to do, even today if they wanted to. so what they have got at the end of the day is just sort of misrepresenting the timing of certain things, not that they didn't tell the mueller team about those conversations or those deals. they told them about the substance of them. it is simply the timing of them. that whatit tells you the mueller here is team a sort of hoping that americans have what i call spaghetti brain, which is that they are unable to do is associate lines of thought. one is that the russians interfered in a very sort of bumbling wave with a 2016 election, buying those facebook ads, and not being very effective.dm we admit that they did some of that. that has been documented. but that is one thing. that is one apple. the oranges whether or not the trump campaign colluded with russia to throw the american presidential election. on that issue, there has been absolutely no evidence despite two years of very hard investigation.

but what the mueller team and the democrats on the left are hoping to do is that the americans will have that spaghetti brain phenomenon where they will confuse the two and they will complete them. so if you just say "russia, russia, russia" -- they lied about something having to do with russia, there must be collusion! >> tucker:lu they hacked our election, we are at war. russia! >> right. >> tucker: [laughs] >> barry mccarthy a stick. there is an irony, the new democrats when they take over the house in january, are going to be having hearings about all of this and they are going to start standing a whole heck of a lot like joseph mccarthy. so adam schiff and jerry nadler are the new joseph mccarthys. >> tucker: i do this with my dog with squirrels, so i know. professor, thank you very much, great to see you. >> thanks. >> tucker: stacy adams ran for office in georgia, she lost fair and square. she is not conceding because voter suppression. was there any? we have got the numbers. ♪ capital one cafes.

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♪ >> tucker: got a fox news alert for you. you are looking at a live pictures of the president's plane, air force one landing in argentina. he has just touched down right now. so when he comes out of the plane or anything of significant happens, we will go straight there. we a are fox news and we are on it. we want to tie up, put a bow on the midterm elections. one of the races that we are still talking about is the one that took place in georgia. the reason we still talking about it is i because one of the candidates has refused to

concede and that has given rise to an extended conversation about something called voter suppression. it turns out that they turn out in the georgia 2018 election was dramatically up over par midterm years. 57% of registered voters turned out. that compares to less than half in 2010 and 2014. and yet, despite that, the democrat in the race, stacey abrams said the election was stolen from her because the voters were suppressed. here's part of what she is saying. >> it was not a free and fair election.r it was not fair to t the thousas who were forced to wait in long lines. >> is he the legitimate governor-elect of georgia? >> he is the a person who won an adequate number of votes. >> tucker: an adequate number of votes, in other words more votes than stacey abrams god. she still won't concede. instead, she has filed a lawsuiv alleging that phrase again, voter suppression. what exactly is voter suppression? read to richard goodstein is a

former advisor to the hillary clinton family and campaign enjoinsar us tonight. richard, thank you for joining us. i am totally opposed to voter suppression. i always have been. i think this is worth looking at carefully. i am hung up on this logic barrier. if voter turnout was higher than it has been in the previous two elections, how did that play a role? >> you are enough of a scientist to know that correlation does not prove causality. let me quote -- >> tucker: what does that mean? >> there was a high turnout all over the country. here are five things that republican governors and legislators did to suppress the vote over the past few years. they closed polling places, they purged eligible voters. they barred felons, which was overturned in florida. voter i.d. was required which cuts against inner-city, often minority voters. early voting was eliminated in states whre early voting typically favored democrats.

those steps were taken. not withstanding that, kemp won. congratulations. that doesn't mean there wasn't any voter suppression. >> tucker: actually, it does mean that. voter suppression is the suppression of votes but stacy abrams got more votes than any democrat in ten years the state of georgia. she got more votes than hillary clinton got who was running for president in 2016. where are the votes that were suppressed? she got aha historic number of votes. i don't understand. maybe there were attempts made that they didn't work by definition. >> you could have better pitching and still have more home runs. we know that kemp had tens of thousands of people declared ineligible. disproportionately they were african-american. >> tucker: no one is claiming that. they didn't match the ids.

their voter registration did not match.ge that is the law in the state of georgia.a. >> that wasn't the only region. there are polling places that were closed. there are various steps that were taken. >> tucker: exit polls suggest that african-americans voted in the same proportion that they had in the previous elections in georgia. they did not detect any drop-off in black voting. her numbers for the highest of any democrat in ten years. will you at least concede that maybe voter suppression, if it existed, wasn't very effective? >> no. >> tucker:up [laughs] >> you can laugh. >> tucker: i am laughing. toto speak with the black vote s up. the fact that it stayed flat, with a black woman at the head of the ticket tells you something was going on to actually support said. when i say correlation doesn't prove causality, they're mere action that it was flat -- >> tucker: are black people required to vote for black candidates? >> they tend to. >> tucker: should that be the

law? what are you saying? >> african-americans don't like trump and we know that statistically. >> tucker: african-american men like donald trump more than they like mitt romney. >> back in 2016. i don't think that's the case anymore. >> tucker: we'll see. richard, great to see you. >> tucker: failed presidential candidate and doomsday say or al gore recently plastered the president who is a super villain who is solely to blame for global warming. >> donald j. trump is now the face of climate denial.. and there are those who are still giving him their loyalty and trust. and i get that, believe me. but the vast majority of americans, not to mention all around the world -- are really -- they have had it. >> tucker: it's weird he never became president. al gore is at least more restrained than cnn, who said that trump waso going to cause the death of the entire planet by causing it to burn to death. >> he keeps saying we have a

record clean environment, we have kids, we don't want to be slowly burned to death in our own planet. >> tucker: the. ladies of "the view" argued whether trump was trying to suffocate the planet rather than set it on fire. >> these people would rather have a billion dollars in the bank than breathe.eoba i really do. they would rather money than breathe. >> do you think that al gore rather have $100 million in the bank? he sold current tv to "al jazeera," the gross domestic product is oil and gas. hehe made oil money. there is so much hypocrisy on the left. leonardo dicaprio has 418 tons of co2 last year. >> here's the truth of the matter. >> i take private planes. i'm not going to lie. >> tucker: it's a fun show, "w." author and columnist mark steyn joins us tonight. mark, the scientific conversation on warming

always begins the same way which is, i am a good person and you are not. this is a global phenomenon. it is happening all around the world and it is happening in france. the government has just said, we want to slow down climate change so we are taxing gasoline. there has been this kind of revolution in response from the left and the right. the entire french middle class has was enough to say, this is a scam. you are punishing us under the guise of making the planet better. we are not putting up with anymore. is that part of a global change of the way populations are responding to climate hectoring? >> yes, i think so. i think climate hectoring was on the verge of a mass movement around the turn of the century. then because all the climate models turned out to be disastrous, people became to understand it for what it is. it a boutique, niche concern. it as the ladies on "the view," were saying, it's for those who

take private jets. leonardo dicaprio and al gore can fly by private jets to climate conferences. al gore's house in tennessee has a carbon footprint 20 times bigger than the average american home. that is because he is beingg virtuous and using his carbon footprint to save the planet, where as you need to give up your washing machine and your dryer and be beating your clothes dry with the rocks on the river. beating your loincloth drive. >> tucker: let me ask you a question. if you really believe that climate was the greatest challenge we face, why would you even allow private planes to exist? i am sincere in that question. >> because i think it is actually a form of class war. in macro terms, it is a way the developed world denying the developing world any chance to live the kind of life that the people in the developed world live. within developed countries, it is a way for elites to tellop

people that when it's al gore and the prince of wales flying around and having climate conferences, everything is fine, but the minute mr. and mrs. joe shmoe want to take a vacation in florida, the whole planet is going to boil. it is an elite thing. >> tucker: exactly. >> nobody takes it seriously. al gore says we have ten years to save the planet in 2006. we are almost three years past his sell-by date. i mention the prince of wales. he was more specific. he said we have 96 months. june 2017. we are still here. >> tucker: i can't believe it. i'm especially glad you are here, mark steyn. one of the few real geniuses i know. thank you. date. >> i am way past my sell-by date. [laughs] >> tucker: up ahead, there's new evidence of danger lurking inside migrant caravans.

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>> tucker: there is >> tucker: there is new evidence of danger and the migrant caravan now in tijuana. the diseases that some of them could be carrying. this is according to mexican officials. tijuana doctors say that one-third of the caravan members are being treated for some kind of health issue. there about 6,000 people in the caravan, more than 100 have lights or skin infection, four have hiv, three skin infections at least. if these migrants are allowed

into this country, treating their elements will become our responsibility.ou that is what we already do for illegal immigrants currently here, about 22 million of them. meanwhile an ms-13 member recently captured by the border patrol said he came with a caravan. do you think he is the only one who came with the caravan? if you do, congratulations. you can be the new cnn white house reporter. while america's elites lecture us on the important of letting anyone who wantsmi to come to america because immigrants are better than us, life or actual americans continues toe get woe and data shows that. new data shows that in 2017, life expectancy for american middle class american middle citizensle fell again. thanks in part to 70,000 drug o.d. rates and the highest suicide rate in 50 years. it's not a stretch to say that life or ordinary people in this country is getting out of shorter, but worse. the most remarkable thing at all is that t nobody seems to care. tammy bruce is a radio host and obviously a fixture on this show. we are grateful for that.

tammy, i guess what is so striking about this is not simply why it's happening, but the reaction we are seeing in washington, or the lack of. if this were happening to any other group, syrian refugees, migrant caravan members, if they were dying younger, wouldn't there be a national outcry about that? >> we do have a national outcries when we see major events happen like the aids crisis. we move into make a difference. we want to do that. but the 70,000 overdoses you mentioned is more than the combined u.s. deaths in theth vietnam, afghanistan, and iraq war combined. of all of those wars that have hurt the soul of this country, one year, 2017, 70,000 overdoses deaths. more than the deaths in those wars combined. and then you have 47,000 suicides. which is an astounding number. but we have here is the government and people say it's helplessness.

we know that of course people turn to something like but the american people are resilient. what is new and the statistician guy said they've never seen numbers like this, the opioid crisis, our action against that, and americans turning to illegal street narcotics like heroinin and fentanyl. i contend that they're not say much about this because you have the start of it was through obamacare on the health care dynamic of taking a pill instead of having a surgery because it was cheaper. also, in order to deal with this, 90% of the opioids, the fentanyl, this synthetic, that are coming into this country, is from mexico. it is from the southern border. it is a combination of chinese influence as well. it is the sinaloa cartel in mexico. in order to deal with this, tucker, we would have to talk seriously about border security and we can do that because that

will bake donald trump look right. we have so many americans being sacrificed because politicians don't want to have a conversation about security at the border. >> tucker: every time i bring this up, the person i'm debating blames america. they say it's a demand problem. >> that's right. it is not. it's a big government problem. established by the government. americans our refusal to address a court but we could do and then deal with addiction which we have to do. deal with that core at the border. they are not willing to do it. >> tucker: i agree with you completely. tammy bruce, thank you. time now for final exam. can you beat the experts at remembering what happened in the news this week? this week, we have a special showdown between former trump campaign men, corey lewandowski, and david bossie. a highly divisive "final exam" is after the break. ♪ every day.

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>> tucker: oh, the best moment of the week, a respite from the sad reality ofof modern life. final exam where we quiz top figures in the news to see if they can remember what actually happened over the past seven days. we get a special version tonight. corey lewandowski and david bossie are the coauthors of a new book called "trump's enemy." it will be interesting to set coauthor against coauthor. they join us tonight. i can't believe you agreed to do this. >> we y are ready. >> we are excited. >> tucker: we are not above stunt casting thisis segment. i'm not going to bet there is a favorite here. i will redo the rules. and no cheating. >> he's out for a [laughter] it is not going to work. >> tucker: we are watching carefully. hanson browsers. i ask the questions, the first 20 bows and kids to answer the question., this is key, you have to wait until i finish asking before you answer. you can answer once if i acknowledge you by saying your name. each correct answer is worth one point.

each incorrect answer detracts a point from your total. it's a very fluid scoring way. >> he can't cut that time. >> tucker: he may have the voice advantage. we'll see who's faster. question one. by order of the national game show commission, we have to begin with an animal? that is the law. the internet has gone crazy for a very unusual four-legged farm animal in australia. this animal weighs over 3,000 pounds.im it is as tall as michael jordan. he is so different from all the other farm animals that they follow him around as if he were a deity. what kind of animal is this? >> tucker: corey lewandowski. >> moo! cow. >> tucker: [laughs] there is no way a cow can be 3,000 pounds. is it a cow? >> 6'4", that is the size of the utterly giant cow. his name is knickers and he is now the laughingstock weighing

in 3,000 pounds. >> you will not find knickers on your plate, just to be clear. he is too big to process, says the owner. he will live happily ever after. >> tucker: can we just pausee and appreciate brian kilmeade who said "udderly"? [laughter] questionis two, forbes is out wh its annual list of the highest-paid television stars. topping the list is not me, a woman from brooklyn who has made nearly $150 million in the last year. her show is been on television since 1996. who is she? >> judge judy. >> tucker: man, you are fast? $150 million a year for judge judy? >> who is the highest-paid tv host of all? years the answer. the lady on the left, judge judy. wait for the number. $147 million in the past year. >>e wow. ellen degeneres, number two.

$87 million. dr. phil, $77 million. ryan seacrest, $74 million, steve d harvey, $44 million. >> tucker: what are we doing wrong here? our judges said that they have checked the buzzing devices and both of you buzzed in. you were just slightly faster. >> story of my life. [laughter] >> so true. >> tucker: [laughs] rubbing it in! at a rally in mississippi, the present united states told a picrowd that as a young man peoe told him he looked like which famous american icon? dave, you blew it! >> at least it works. >> robert redford. >> tucker: it sounded like the question ended. they are giving you a pass because it sounded like i finish the question, so you get to answer it. >> alves! >> tucker: man, you guys are hair trigger. is that the answer? >> they said i looked like elvis. i always considered that a great complement.

>> tucker: you guys have spent a lot of time with the president. have you ever heard him sing? >> not even for a second. >> we listened to a "tiny dancer." >> he liked elton john a lot. [laughter] >> is a sensitive song, i love it. >> tucker: question four, 2-1, by the way. multiple-choice about the weirdest video of the week. an american tourist had a near-deathri experience above te swiss alps after somebody forgot to buckle his safety harness t d left him holding on for dear life. which activity was the man doing? a, hang gliding. b, bungee jumping. c, skydiving. >> hang gliding. with the creepy porn lawyer. >> tucker: seriously? cpl was there? we will not hold you to that. was it hang gliding? >> a first-time hang glider holding on for dear life. the safety harness was not connected.g the pilot was trying to land but he had trouble controlling that

with one hand. >> tucker: as our producers said, the creepy lawyer can't even hold onto his clients, much less a hang glider. the final question, this one is multiple-choice. the first lady melania trump has unveiled the christmas decorations of the white house. they feature tens of thousands of red ornaments. what is this year's theme? is it a, winter wonderland? b, blessings from the heartland? c, american treasures? corey. >> american treasures. >> tucker: letou me just say, yu are a savage animal. is it c, american treasures? >> american treasures. each room inside the white house highlightsme different american cities. >> tucker: it is unbelievable. [laughter] >> i never get tired of winning. >> tucker: we have a mug.

it's our eric wemple blog. i don't know where it is. they are back ordered. we will give you the golden retriever mug instead. >> can i come back and defend my title?ve >> tucker: yes, you can defend your title. i hope you both come back. [laughs] i know you let him win. you are the coauthor. >> he needs to feel a little better about himself. i let him won. >> tucker: you are still splitting royalties 50-50. gentlemen, thank you. that's it for this week's "final exam." pay close attention to the news all week and tune in next week can beat the pros. we'll be right back. ♪ ultimate feast event! pick 4 of 10 favorites to create the ultimate feast you've been dreaming of. will you choose creamy lobster mac & cheese, tender, wild-caught snow crab... crispy jumbo coconut shrimp, hey, we never said choosing was easy...

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not just cold-weather and shopping and caroling but also new progressive attacks on christmas. they mocked the idea that there is a war on christmas even as they wagees it. of course. this year's first target is the classic film, "rudolph the red nose reindeer." if he is from "huffington post" explains that the film is full of bullying, exploitation, on the part of his father and other sinister characters. >> all right, son, try it on. >> i don't want to. daddy, i don't like it. >> you will like it and wear it it. > oh, but daddy. it's not very comfortable! >> there are more important things than comfort. >> tucker: dave rubin, he hosts "the rubin report" on youtube. he joins us. as i am watching, i had this panic feeling. maybe i fell for an elaborate ironic prank and then i realized no, they don't have a sense of humor. reassure me.

this is real, right? >> tucker, very quickly on the last segment. i thought you were the highest-paidn man in television. i am shocked.. >> tucker: [laughs] >> i don't get paid for these appearances but i am going to mail you a check for somewhere between $15 and $20. that aside. >> tucker: i appreciate that, david. >> you got that, my friend. these puff pieces, these pieces that these authors whatever they are, journalists. these are not pieces of journalism. it so much easier to destroy than to create. if you watch "rudolph the red nose reindeer" and think it is about misogyny and racism and the patriarchy and the rest of it, you can find that stuff everywhere. if you look back at anything, that is what people think you understand when these pieces come outta a new start looking h something that he used to love are used to have a wonderful message about the holiday and giving and being accepted in all of those things, that they are trying to take that away froms you. it's not like they stop with one thing.

they find something and theyin destroy that, and then they will move on to everything else that we love. eventually they will move on move move on to sitcoms we love. whether to "seinfeld" or "friends,"they will go toei cartoons. they have gone for bugs bunny. they will literally go for a sunset. whoever is watching this right now, think of something you love that brings you a sense of peace and decency and they will somehow link it to the patriarchy and the rest of s their politically correct nonsense.. we just need to realize, as i said earlier, it is easier to destroy than create. we have to create. >> tucker: and that is such a smart point. what are we creating? what is being created in this moment of destruction? make me feel better. >> that is what i am worried about. there is some legitimacy that some of the things happening in the country and the world should be destroyed at some level. we have major problems in academia.

we've got major problems in the media. >> tucker: we want some change. >> we want some change. anyone can burn anything down. the question is, we put up with so much goodness in the world. the united states and western world has put up so much goodness related to freedom. we live in the freest country ever. we can do whatever we want and if your job is to write pieces that actually destroy theob storiesha that we are built on d they don't offer an alternative, that is a thing, they neverev offer an alternative, and if they do, it is usually about power to thete state, which is actually dystopian, not utopian. that is what we have to watch out for. it is unfortunate. they write these things and guys like us, we feel we have to respond because we don't want people being brainwashed. >> tucker: i am glad that we did. you just issued a challenge to the rest of us. it is to create. we need to create more. >> let'sre create, man, let's create. >> tucker: dave rubin, good to see you. we will be back after this. ♪ st

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>> tucker: the lesson is, everything goes faster than you think it will. that isoe certainly true of the last hour. we are out of time. we will be back tomorrow, tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. they show that is a sworn enemy of lyon, mossadegh b, smugness, and groupthink. but it is not over for good because sean hannity is live from new york right now. >> sean: two things i am never going to do in life, two shows. "jeopardy," i am great at home and i'lle, blow it at person. >> sean: i would, too. >> sean: i'm never doing your quiz show, ever! >> tucker: why? never say never. i think you would be great. >> sean:n: who would i lose to? it wouldn't be fun. great show. >> tucker: [laughs] >> sean: welcome to "hannity." this is the biggest abuse of power, corruption scandal in modern u.s. history. throughout the hour, we will break it all down. letter a to z. information i promise you will not get anywhere else. it is not as complicated as they are making it elsewhere. in other words, the mueller which