>> sean: your mother was suspicious, some of the doctors didn't think it was a good idea. >> some of the doctors called and i said, jump. after all it had to have made him feel very young >> sean: that's all the time we have left this morning, laura ingraham standing by in washington >> laura: sean great to see you, fantastic show the tonight. it's a weird feeling here in washington. it's an odd moment for all of us who grew up and worked in the reagan bush administration. >> sean: that's where my political interest came from watching those twelve years defined my love of politics. >> laura: absolutely. great show the tonight. >> sean: thank you. >> laura: i'm laura ingraham, this is the "ingraham angle." a day of attribute after the passing of the 41st president of the united states george h.w. bush. in moments my angle takes a look at how the media are using what should be this moment to hit the

current occupant of the white house, president trump. could krilt sizing mass migration actually become a criminal offense? a story you will need to see to believe. plus president trump and rudy juliani are opening new lines of attack on how bob mueller's team is conducting their witness interviews. with no collusion in sight has the special counsel crossed the rubicon? we're going to question that. first honoring bush by -- trump that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> when a former president passes away it's appropriate to celebrate his life, achieve wants and remind the public of his record and legacy. sadly though with the death of george h.w. bush some in the media and politicians from both parties are abusing this moment to trash instead the sitting president.

as the bush motorcade was making its way to the capitol for the last name. ins's nicole wallace a former bush aid herself could not restrain herself. >> under donald trump the office of the presidency has been debased in a way that is unimaginable for people who served every past president. >> i think what's lost in this moment is our eleven reasons and dependence and the way we need and rely upon the elegance and traditions of the presidency. >> laura: let's get this straight she's talking about reverence and trashing the current president as the motorcade is inching its way up capitol hill. then there was this gem from earlier in the day. >> let's see what happens at wednesday's memorial service. my prediction is that trump fakes more respect for a family whose unprecedented history of public service has repeatedly

belittled then he goes back to making a mock try to what this president long revered. >> laura: president bush was a man who loved his country, loved his family, his faith and his friends. he was a war hero and a dedicated public search the vant throughout most of his life. so are these folks really honoring that legacy and his innate sense of decency and kindness by slashing the man who entered the white house 25 years after him? look, even if you don't care for president trump, even if you just hate president trump, try showing just a little bit of class and decorum. as bush 41 would have. the hits on trump, subtle and not subtle at all, have been interwoven throughout the commentary and the coverage. >> they both believe the presidency is bigger than

themselves which is not something that this president always adheres to. what george h.w. bush is being remembered for this week isn't a tweet or a press release or nothing much more than his fundamental character. >> i do not know how it's going to work when donald trump as an ex president and theoretically a member of this club i really think it's going to change because i don't think these men who share something in common really share that in common with donald trump. >> laura: at some point you don't even know what to say to these people. that was ron contain by the way. they reduce a presidential death to just a political battering ram like any other issue. but what you hear if you listen closely is the last gasp of an embittered establishment. now as we've seen across europe and much of the united states, populism is swamping the old guard. whether it's on the right or on the left.

so rather than direct their anger at trump, the establishment, frankly in both parties should be directing it at themselves. for it is their policies that the voters turned against in 2016. things like open borders, china trade, nafta, high taxes, endless wars. those weren't trump policies, those were the policies of the establishment. and the establishment gopers apparently think the way to win back the people that they lost to trump is to belittle the president no on-stoon-stop? even if during formal and informal on air you'll low i didn'ts and tributes? at a time like this, when a father, a grandfather, a great grandfather and a former president has died, we should be bigger than the petty politics of the moment. i think we should be capable of uniting as americans and celebrating the best of george h.w. bush without resorting to the same old usual political

snark and calumny. and isn't that what president bush would have wanted? and that's the angle. . >> laura: joining me now we have an amazing panel. former governor of arkansas, mike huckabee, reagan biography craig shirley and white house counsel c boyden gray. all of you, it is great to have you. i know former president bush would have loved the fact we're getting together to talk about this moment and legacy and honor him for who he was, his patriotism, love of country, deep public service. craig i want to start with you. wouldn't bush, you knew him, i want to hear from boyden on this, we grew up in the reagan revolution, reagan bush, we worked there, if it weren't for reagan bushy wouldn't be here. >> neither would have. >> laura: none of us would be. >> it would be a different

world. >> laura: but i have to believe that the man he was, wouldn't have loved a lot of the stuff he is hearing. >> you know it's amazing is that, you know when eisenhower was in office, they dreaded eisenhower, he couldn't read if his lips were chapped, then he became a battering ram. richard nicks nicks was an exemplary president, you remember how they treated him. gerald ford was mocked when he was in the white house, then they made him an exemplary figure, they like republican presidents who no longer have power. they bashed the heck out of george h.w. bush when he was in office, annoy the media, vote for bush. >> laura: we're going to get to that. >> in 88 he had famous dust ups with the media, banned newsweek from his private plane.

>> laura: boyden the white house counsel, you knew the bushes so well, it was just at the end of the bush era in 1992 when i met you, it was a heart breaking loss. but listening to bill crystal for instance today he tried to capture what he thought were the big conflicts of the moment at a time when it's great to honor who bush was. let's watch. >> there were reagan republicans and bush republicans, what strikes me compared to today is what they have in common, the reagan and bush and mccain republicans and some were more conservative than others, different views on issues but they all respected the country, respected the institutions, tried to live up to what they thought was a pretty impressive history, pretty impressive future for this country. that is unfortunately i believe a contrast with donald trump's republican party. >> laura: i kind of agreed with everything up to the very last minute. boyden your sense about how rank

the abuse of this moment is, just to again bash trump. >> it's not making any sense and he wouldn't have done this, that is 41 wouldn't have. and two of trump's greatest at chiefly wants, deregulation and judges were right out of the bush playbook. i don't understand why crystal would turn what was actually a pretty good recital into a negative in the last two sentences, it doesn't make any sense. >> laura: governor huckabee like all of us sitting here who oh so much to the bush reagan legacy, to see the family gathered, this is a moment of mourning and a moment of reflection on a life well lived. policy debates are important, craig writes about them, i speak about them. but at this moment it's about an incredible man. what will an amazing family this was. they were well-to-do, but they never lost that kind of innate sense of love of country, love

of family, and their faith which is being underplayed by some today, conveniently. >> you know if i'm gonna get a lesson in how to deal with a death, and how to do it with class and dignity, i'm not going to look to mika ror nicole i'm going to look to george h.w. bush even though he wasn't fond of the 445th president he made sure this president would be invited to be a part of the funeral service. that's class, dignity. that's the president bush we loved and considered to be a great statesman who loved his country more than he disliked anybody. i think he gave us the template for how to handle these kind of moments. we ought to be taking our lessons from the man that we're honori honoring whose casket lies in

state at the capitol right now. >> laura: i always get a lump in my throat when you see the casket being walked up the steps. it's sad that these are the types of moments that are required to get us to stop for a moment, or should stop for a moment. we're americans. we want to be successful and free and independent. we have incredible history, founding documents, we shouldn't be just these moments. i want to talk to you all for a moment about the recasting of the historical narrative. craig we talked about this on the radio this morning. some of the more absurd moments of the past 24 hours came when the anti-trump press again tried to piggyback on the death of an american patriot to defend their own reputations. >> he understood that the press wasn't the enemy of the people. and even said basically at the end of the day, we're all in this together. and i will be here for you just like

this together. and i will be here for you just like i know you would be here for me. what a remarkable difference between 1988 and 2018p. >> i think it was a mark of that sense of respect, as i say, that was very, very notice i believe then and is all -- well is virtually absent now. >> he had good relations with the media. he called us the media, he invited us to white house dinners occasionally. he kept up with us, i was just reading mauer reason dowd. >> this rank revisionism is stunning. they regularly spewed bill crystal against george h.w. bush. they were trashing him and maureen dowd by the way who is line thighsing him today, i love her writing it's fun. she used to belittle the bushes, what they watched, what they listened to for music. i was reading a column from

may 1st, 1990. she called them the gracious cruise director. they lampooned him for patting barbara on the derriere during the campaign. as for his relationship with the press, look at this 1987 newsweek cover. bush considered it the cheapest shot of his political career. check it out. you can read it, referring to him as the wimp factor. how about this great relationship with dan rather during a 1988 interview? >> well, dan let's be careful here, because you're -- >> i want you to be careful mr. vice-president. how do you explain that you can't remember. >> because i wasn't there at that point. >> you weren't in the meeting. >> i'm just saying i don't remember it. >> i don't want to be argumentative mr. vice-president. >> dan [laughter]. these -- it's not fair to judge my whole career by a rehash on iran. how would you like it if i judge

your career by those seven minutes when you walked off the set in new york? would you like that? i have respect for you but i don't have respect for what you're doing here tonight. >> give us all a break, we could go on and on with this. craig helen thomas, all of these, boyden. >> the washington post once wrote that george bush reminded every woman of their first husband. he had a very contentious argument with a group of reporters because they charged he wasn't tough enough to be president. he was a war hero. he set out in the eyes of texas to create a business. he said none of you ever had to watch your child die, i did. this idea that he wasn't tough enough to be president was nonsense. the red diaper baby, whose parents were well-known rich limousine liberals, they viciously attacked him during

his presidential career. >> laura: i'm going to tweet this column during the commercial break, bushes taste down home to less so, rid cowling the bushes, it captures what -- everything that the elites think. they were the elites. the bushes were the ee let's, this is the media elites tra trashing bush because he was a republican. >> well i knew he was going to win the election with the dan rather thing. i happened to be in the white house and stayed, couldn't leave for three hours because of the phone response. they loved it. and to think that he was a wimp when he took on dan rather that was one of the high points of his campaign and i think won the election for him. >> laura: boyden you and i and craig were there, this was non-stop come back. reagan was so nice, trump is so mean. bush was toufrlg when he needed to be. they're different permits, different world experiences. so what? it's okay.

>> the author, devan thomas was banned from air force one. >> laura: mike uh-hum, jamie gangle who interviewed the bushes, remember bush did not vote for donald trump, called him a blow hard, said i didn't like trump, he's a blow hard, bush didn't like trump, that's final. i disagree with him but that's final. jamie gangle spoke today on cnn about whether the bush funeral and the memory of george h.w. bush will menecessarily alter t way donald trump speaks. like he should have different policies i guess because george h.w. bush has passed away. i want to play this exchange for you governor and have you react on the other side. let's watch. >> will it have an effect on the tenor of this town? >> it's a great point and a great question, because we had this conversation just three months ago when we said farewell

to senator mccain and everybody thought that would be a re-set in washington and of course it was not. >> the bush family has said the white house and i think john kelly has been responsible for this, that they have really just opened the doors, bent over backwards to make everything work. >> but come next week do we see a more by partisan washington when they're back to the border wall fight and special counsel developments? i would not bet on it. >> laura: trump should give up the wall because george h.w. bush died. that's the argument. they're actually making on cnn. >> i know every president has his own personality, their own focus. the media, in what you've just played has reminded us why most of americans absolutely don't trust them and hold them in contempt. and every president has their contentious relationship with the press. this one that we have now is probably maybe has the most contentious relationship but it's in large measure because

the press absolutely refuses to be journal lifts and they just want to be opinion mongers, it's unfortunate that taking what ought to be the celebration of a great patriot, statesman, selfless servant of this nation and instead of focussing upon his qualities they're trying to focus on what they perceive to be the lack of qualities in donald trump, the very qualities that many americans frankly believe to be the reason he's president right now. >> laura: 7% craig of the media, 7% voted for george h.w. bush! boyden is listening going, wait a second, was it that many? no one -- >> they didn't act like this. they had a lot of writers at national review that year. >> laura: they embraced a republican in death, but don't treat them fairly in life. when they're actually in office a. pointing people like justice clarence thomas.

they trashed him for clarence thomas. >> remember the thomas hearings something. >> laura: oh, yeah. but that is the world as it is. so we're not trying to gloss over the real differences that exist. but craig, reagan and bush, you've written about it, reason did rendezvous with destiny, tell us about that. >> it was very contentious, they didn't get along. during the 80 primaries, it was heated, argumentative, they were from two cultural different uni versus, one was more moderate, the other more conservative. it was a marriage of convenience at the detroit convention. reagan so opposed picking george bush who most people thought was the obvious choice, bush was second in the primaries, is that they saw the co. president to gerald ford and tried to get the senator from nevada on the

ticket. so they very much resisted the idea of picking george bush. >> laura: they ended up having eight years in the white house and it was a great partnership. it ended up being a really good pick in the end. >> but that's politics. >> laura: it's a tradeoff, right? >> absolutely. it was eye great choice. and reagan really appreciated bush, who never wanted to take credit for the great things ed for reagan. but reagan knew. >> laura: in a way a perfect vice-president in that regard. >> he was, yes. >> laura: governor huckabee, page for thought in the. >> i think it's a great time for us to reflect on what service sacrifice is all about. george h.w. bush enlisted, served his country under age, shot down, lived his life, an exemplary life of family, faith and love of country. god bless him and god bless his memory. >> laura: we should pray tonight for his family and all those who are grieving and mourning for our country.

learn something going forward about, you can disagree but at these moments it's time to be americans and stand for all the goodness in his life. great panel, thank you so much. president trump and his attorney rudy juliani ramping up their attacks on the special counsel. is their anger warranted at this juncture? an examination in depth, next. ♪ you think you've seen everything? ♪ let's talk about that when you get here.

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♪ ♪ >> i think the special prosecutor has stepped over the line now, the way he's intimidating people in order to tell what he believes is his version of the truth. an ethical prosecutor would stop this and pursue some other line of inquiry with other people. you can only exert a certain amount of pressure before it becomes unethical and destructive. >> laura: the president's lawyer rudy juliani is taking aim at what he calls destructive tactics employed by special counsel bob mueller's team. this was soon followed by the president taking issue between his old lawyer michael cohen and mueller's team. you have mean he can do all of the terrible, unrelated to trump things having to do with fraud, big loans, tax it's, et cetera and not serve a long prison term? he lied for this outcome and should in my opinion serve a

full and complete sentence. throw away the key. >> joining me now is jon sale, matt schlapp and byron york. john lett me start with you, is there a method to this madness now, being employed by the president and juliani they're the kind of tag teaming on mueller. what's the theory, strategy, point of that? >> well i don't think it's madness. i think what they need is to maintain support in the senate and most importantly, with the american people. but as a defense lawyer, michael cohen is a dream. a dream. but i'm troubled by the power of prosecutor's. michael cohen, the first thing that comes to your mind, what is he? he's a fixer. well i don't know what a fixer is. nobody has on their linked i'm a fixer. i don't think i've ever met a fixer. michael cohen taped his own client. what lawyer has taped his own

client? a judge found probable cause to authorize searches of michael cohen's residence, his hotel, his office. they found a treasure trove of information which led to his plea in the southern district of new york to tax evasion, false statements to a bank, which involves lying. then his lawyer goes on cnn and offers up his testimony to the special counsel. is that the way to sell your cooperation? what's his plea? it's the lying. so if that's the best they can do, there is something wrong with, i think, the power of prosecutor's. there is incentive to shade the truth. >> laura: i'm saying as an old defense attorney it's way out of controlled. they have no real supervision. they can blow their budget and get more money. byron york michael issikoff said

tonight they're tying up loose ends in their investigation providing the clearest clues yet that it may be coming to its climax in the next few weeks, right before christmas. >> that has been a question recently. when we heard about mueller talking to this jerome corsi stuff and roger stone stuff and wrapping up michael cohen, what's going on? was he opening up new inquiries in which we would have the investigation through 2020 or something, or was he really trying to tie things up in a bow and finish it up? so a lot of these complaints that we're hearing from the president, and juliani, about mueller could be coming at a time when mueller is actually winding down. >> laura: matt schlapp now they're actually floating the idea that trump talking about his constitutional right to pardon could be tantamount to witness tampering.

just for fun on a monday night, let's watch [ laughter ] >> in the middle of an active investigation president trump prayses roger stone for not testifying against him. is this witness tampering? >> that is what some lawyers would suggest. laws against witness tampering. >> he is right on the edge of witness tampering p federal law makes it a crime to do anything to dissuade or try to postpone or delay someone's testimony. >> laura: matt? >> can i just try to explain something here? which is everybody involved in this investigation f. you're mike flynn, paul manafort, any of these names you mentioned, they all know there's a chance of a presidential pardon and they all know the president has already used his pardon powers robustly. they all know this is at play. why is michael cohen doing what he's doing? he's a low down dirty dog. they have everything on him second possibly want. >> laura: well he was looking at basically life in prison son now it's down to about 60 months.

they want that wiped out all together. >> it's his corrupt business. >> remember when papadopoulos pleaded to lying and flynn pleaded to lying, people said well i guess they're not going to use them as witnesses because they just pleaded to lying. this just happened to michael cohen. so mueller is not planning to use him. >> laura: >> but witnesses in a future prosecution. >> laura: we don't know what mueller has. i keep saying this, as an attorney, you don't know what the mueller team has. andrew weisman is not over there in the southwest washington at the mueller headquarters with a little marble foe pillars out front playing patty cake. so there's something that we're not seeing that they're holding back. i'm not saying it's the big kahuna here but there's something else going on. otherwise the week that they wrote this editorial today, they said the following the special counsel has taken his attention

away from diplomacy. mueller has failed to deliver the goods, not simply because there are no goods toe deliver but because delivering them is not the point. the point is to hurt trump. they haven't gotten close to collusion, even old jake tapper said that last week. >> regardless of what mueller has, nobody is pointing out that there's a presumption of innocence which goes to everybody, including the president. so, i just am at a loss for everybody saying my god mueller must have something and the whole world is going to go cave in. whatever mueller has. >> laura: there's some tricks up their sleeves. i don't think this is going to be some tepid report that says second have used better judgment writs like the appearance of impropriety. >> can i the point out one thing quickly? >> yeah. >> the problem with a special counsel is they're on a mission. >> laura: everything.

>> if they do a thorough investigation, they have not failed if their conclusion is the president did not break the law. they are just as successful in their mission if they come to that conclusion. >> good for you. >> laura: bingo. >> it's going to be a one sided report because that's what he's doing. he's a prosecutor he's not going to give a defense brief for the. president. he's going to give it to congress and the new democratic majority will figure it out. >> it's very important. this is a political exercise, impeachment, special counsel it's all about politics. we had a big national exam pain. show me the ads the democrats rash on collusion. it's not a real thing. the american people, it has no impact in their daily lives and they're tired of it. >> laura: we'll talk about what's going on in the trade world with chien chienl. great segment guys. from a united nations official could the mere criticism of mass

migration end up being a criminal offense? this is a story that had my blood boiling over the weekend, next.

♪ ♪ . >> laura: >> a freight thing proposal is emerging from a un panel over the weekend the united nations compact wants to make immigration a universal human right. they want to make it a crime for media out threats to allow for certain types of criticism against migration. watch >> criticism of migration, will become a criminal offense. and media outlets, and that also concerns you, that give room to criticism of migration can be shut down. >> laura: here now is someone who knows more about this than

the average joe, i would say. this diminished eu today is nigel farage. he was vice-chair man of the pro brexit movement that raised red flags about these issues, especially the migration destroying the fiber of the uk. thanks for staying up light for us, we appreciate it. is there a chance that this actually could come to pass, that this type of criticism of migration could be criminalized? >> well, you were quite right to say what the un wants to do is to make migration a human right. what it also wants to do is to make illegal immigration legal by defining a refugee as anybody that wants to move between countries. so basically what it wants to do is to make us all global citizens, and governments are going to this next week. many will sign up to it without ever consulting their own people. but you are quite right.

the most worrying part is the section on the media, where it says very clearly that media outlets who are in tolerant, critical, seen know phone i can or racist in their criticism of mass migration, now, as soon as you start to define people like that, you're getting into territory where people can be defined as committing hate crimes. they want to make it, they actually want to make it illegal to criticize open door immigration. is it actually going to work? well thankfully the un itself doesn't have legal power. but -- >> laura: nigel doesn't this operate as a framework for international human rights cases? >> yes. >> laura: it ends up being a framework that under a different supreme court in this country could actually be referenced. there are a lot of justices who believe that references foreign

law is okay, which of course it's not the way it's done in our country. sadly it's been done in the past. that's the problem. it becomes another international norm, climate change obviously is one thing, i'm not talking about climate change but nick it's a norm. we do a lot of stuff on migration. you and i have talked about migration, immigration for years, so just talking about the fact that we have so many illegal immigrants on social welfare now in the united states, a big survey came out today i think 61% on some type of social program. that would be considered perhaps hateful. >> yeah. i mean here i am in london. as we speak there are a thousand police officers in london who just investigate hate crimes. and the definitions of what is hate crime get broader and broader. this is an attempt by the un to make any criticism of mass migration something that should be considered criminal.

and effectively what they're saying is they will favor media outlets that promote their ideas, materially. i mean they're even talking about funding media outlets, that support their view. no i'm being serious [ laughter ] >> believe me i've seen this myself in brussels. the you are euro penal union actually give money to media organizations that promote their views. and increasingly demonize those that take a different point of view. you're right, the international criminal it court, areas like that can start to make judgments in these areas, but mr., you're quite right. >> laura: they also marginal lies voices. you see this happening on social media, twitter, facebook, you tube channels, they're making judgment calls on who is and is not part of the acceptable club.

i want to play a sound bite from angela merkel. this is just from about a week and-a-half or so ago. let's watch. [ speaking foreign language ] . >> laura: well you're on satellite so unless your german is really good, it's basically just this is a right. this is -- we have to stand up for the right of refugees. i believe for standing up for refugees. it doesn't mean every country's border has to remain open if the un says you have to do it, whether to the 7000 people in tijuana or any other group. >> let's remember what a refugee is. there is a 1951 definition of what a refugee is. it's a person in fear of their life or liberty as a result of

their race, religion, views, orientation. that does not mean that millions of people that have crossed the mediterranean over the last couple of years, encouraged by angela merkel were receive jeez. they weren't. they were economic migrants coming from all over the world, using the opportunity of the huge stupidity made by angela merkel. i genuinely believe, for example, laura, the christians living in iraq and countries like that, who have literally got nowhere to go, they qualify as genuine refugees. but you cannot open the door to mass millions and suddenly pretend that's okay. this is exactly what the un are trying to do next week. they're trying to bail out angela merkel and the other politicians who have made these huge mistakes. i would have thought what mrs. merkel ought to do is to apologize to millions of german people for fundamentally changing the nature of the

culture of the towns and cities in which people live, without ever asking the people. >> laura: yeah. sweden is seeing hits pop pu plows movement, we see it happening in spain. macron is in hot political water, obviously breaks brexit, things are changing. thank you for being up with us late. really the important topic i really appreciate it, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> laura: it's often hard to understand why china is such a threat to you the american people, american worker, american fact at this, our next guest is going to show you what happens when china tries to destroy an american manufacturing base. one company that's fought against china and won. he's going to tell us why this is so important. the man fighting back will explain next. explain. next. hey, what are you guys doing here?

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>> today i'm directing the united states trade representative to examine chine's policies, practices and actions with regard to the forced transfers of american technology and the theft of

american intellectual property. as president of the united states, it's my duty and responsibility to protect the american workers' technology and industry from unfair and abusive actions. >> laura: that event, president trump was attended by my next guest, cambria c.e.o. marty davis. his company was the target of a chinese effort that would have destroyed potentially his company until he and the white house with its own policies and focus fought back. marty is going to join us in a moment. but first, trace gallagher is live in our west coast newsroom with the back story on this battle. story on this battle. >> laura as the us's largest producer of counters, cambria makes it their business to keep an eye on foreign competition.mp in 2010 china exported $5 million of quartz into the us. last year that number jumped to over $450 million and the total

bounced up again to $526 million but the quartzz was being illegally dumped in the us meaning china was subsidizing it so it could be sold in this country well below the cost. the goal is to undercut the competition and control the market. cambria estimates last year alone china displaced $1.2 billion of us quartz. adding insult to injure the china was slapping a 40% tariff on quartz being imported to their country. last april cambria petitions the international trade commission to intervene whiting fair trade and free trade are inseparable paradigms, you cannot have one without the other. we believe strongly in free trade to protect it we must demand fair trade. sure enough subsequent investigations found china was dumb pipg under priced quartz

into the united states. so the in september the commerce department increased tariffs on select chinese quartz to five times the previous number and bumped up the tariffs once again in november. clearly the companies reselling the cut rate chinese quartz were hoping to keep it flowing now it appears they too will have to make a few adjustments >> laura: thanks so much trace. marty davis ceo of cambria is here. marty this is a wild story. you started this company when? >> 2001, laura. >> laura: 2001. and you saw a market, and you live in minnesota, your family and business is in minnesota and you want to employ minnesota employees. >> yeah. >> laura: what happened years later with china's involvement. >> we started the company, founded the company, myself and jim ward were the original employees. today we have nearly 2,000.

we went through struggles to build the bids. by 2010 or 11 after the melt down of 08 we got back on your feet and the company was starting to flourish as was the industry. we developed a lot of technology, invested until innovations, did a lot of work around productivity and the business started to sky rocket. about that time 2013, 20114, the chinese producers from china started to dump product into the united states. >> laura: what does that mean? >> they're subsidized by their government. the people's republic of china is not a friendly participant in a free enterprise in america. they subsidize their companies, they're state owned going after american manufacturing. >> laura: are you afraid of competition? that's what the free traders would say. marty have you afraid of beating china until isn't you beat them marty what's the problem.

>> you have to have fair trade to have free trade and a level playing field. the president understands that as does his team. we like competition. it helped us develop our technologies. we have tremendous competition in the industry from other th domestic producers. it's been good for the industry and the business. it's not a competition, this argument by the politicians about free trade.ci they don't understand what free trade is. they should get out in the market and run a manufacturing facility and have your manufacturingou worker have to compete with the chinese government instead of a chinese manufacturing worker. there's no competition there. >> laura: tell me about the average employee you have. >> and the business fails. >> laura: the people until your firm, tell me about them what are they like? >> the people that helped us build the company start from all different kinds. it could believe graduate students, under grads, and hard working unskilled labor that come out of high school and go to work in a manufacturing facility. they work hard, they're

innovative, productive, focused and diligent in their work. they're amazing and they will compete with anybody in the world. you cannot compete with a rogue party dictator ship like china who has targeted this amazing economy inrg america as their target to, i say heist our manufacturing and move them to china. >> laura: tell us about the president's approach. this is abby phillips a cnn reporter who made this point. >> the president decided to use tariffs which is a pretty archaic tool to get china to the table. maybe they have gotten them to the table but they have not beee making a lot of progress. >> you know. >> laura: archaic tool. >> yeah first of all, a lot of our politicians, many of them republicans don't understand the use of the word tariff or what it really means. trafsh is a trade enforcement tool in many instances and most.

that's what the president and his excellent team, lighthizer, wilber ross and petr navarro and others that are over there, they're steered leaders in this part of our economy. they understand that it's a trade enforcement tool to ensure that trade law that is violated is dealt with, and these conditions, they're violating existing us trade law. we didn't go and ask for new law. we asked the united states government, trade and commerce to -- we petitioned them to go after china and investigate whether they were violating us trade law. >> laura: they the found indeed they were. they have the went from $5 million worth of quartz material, that raw material to make the counters. >>ma $5 million imported in 201 to roughly $570 million in 2017. >> laura: the projection for this year is $800 million. if you don't see those figures

and think that's dumping. >> there's a couple key points. if you look at what they displaced in our market price it's over a billion dollars, 1/60th of the deficit. the chinese product in some cases, this is amazing to that's manufactured in the market price, their prices were below our raw material cost. >> laura: that is a classic dumping case. if you dump it under cost, then there is no competition. >> that's right. >> laura: the people who you employ, they're mothers, fathers, high school graduates, the people who graduated from college, engineers and so forth, what do these jobs mean for them? >> obviously they are the company. i would tell you that their dedication to our business is why it exists. we should have invested another $150 in property and equipment and we should have added 350 employees to our company. in 16 we shut that down as a

result of the dumping. that's a fact. >> laura: you were able to figha china here, a lot of companies can't.ca marty davis thank you for doing that and having an open mind plate ki. >> it's a policy issue not a political issue. i don't understand why it's not a policy issue for the entire country. it's not political. >> laura: thank you. coming up next, the last bite n anan unexpected champion, strait ahead.

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