>> sean: a good man, a life of service. he'll be missed. unfortunately that is all the time we have less. we hope you join us on the weekday radio show, 3:00 to 6:00. there shall always be fair, balanced. we are not the destroy-trump-media. let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham standing by ndc. >> laura: hannity, it was amazing to see the former presidents together. we have such a rough and tumble political world and life in washington, especially. it is kind of sad that it takes something like this for everyone to pause and most people, not everybody, be able to pause, and appreciate their life, as he said, well lived, and a man with a immense patriotism, love of family, and love of country. it is nice when that can happen. it doesn't happen often. >> sean: it bothers me, though, that we can't say a good thing in life when somebody is

running, and as michael goodwin said, democrats love republicans when they are dead, but how do they treat them in life will be more telling. >> laura: it's transparent. everybody has been outed on this. i actually was here when they were saying those things. i was a law clerk at the supreme court when they were trashing h.w. bush. and they loved it. he was a blue blood from connecticut. >> sean: he's a gentleman. >> laura: they made him out to be not very smart, believe it or not. anyway, it's great that people can take this moment, we know who is telling the truth, who's been naughty, who's been nice. a great show. >> sean: you are getting coal in your stocking, ingraham. you will deserve it. you are in trouble all the time. >> laura: i have something on its way to you by the way. you like the gift certificates? >> sean: grade from a mcdonald's gift certificates. i appreciate it.

>> laura: i'm laura ingraham, this is "ingraham angle" from washington, d.c. i had, does the left think half of america is not just wrong, but really stupid? it's a serious question and one that is not a front and center given some recent comments by democratic leaders. i will explain in just a few moments. plus, did a massachusetts district court judge actually help if you just alien of aid i.c.e. custody? a federal investigation has now been launched. we have the details, they will knock your socks off. i'm from new england, and knowing wind is always surprising me. one leftist celeb is taking aim at black nra members tonight. a debate about the continued marginalization of african-american conservatives later in the show. and more christmas songs have been banned by the very unfun -- fun killers on the left.

they are killing fun all over the country. and some disgusting christmas toys that were all the rage. we will examine the body language of george george h.w.s funeral, believe it or not, some people speculating that certain people work -- well, we'll tell you. that is "seen and unseen" with raymond arroyo. first, democrats defining intelligence down. that is the focus of tonight's "angle." ♪ now despite their big gains in the house and the midterms, democrats still may not get it. they have a new line. they've been testing it out. ready for this? they are now the smartest people in the room who have all the answers, even if you are too stupid to understand it. speaker one of the things that we, as democrats, have a really hard time is connecting to people's hearts instead of here. we are really good at shoving out all the information that touches people here but not here. we democrats know so much, that is true. but we have the kind of

intelligence, how smart we are, so we have a tendency to be very left brain. >> laura: lest you think this is some isolated idea, all right, that we are just so smart we have trouble connecting with you. it's actually something that is shared fairly widely. and two of the latest forbearers, by the way, of the democratic party. >> do you really think donald trump has the temperament to be commander in chief? imagine him in the oval office facing a real crisis. >> he just says, i'm going to negotiate a better deal. what magic wand do you have? and usually the answer is, he doesn't have an answer. >> this office has a way of waking you up. his positions or predispositions that don't match up with reality, he will find shaken up

pretty quick. >> laura: okay. the obvious implication being that donald trump and those americans who voted for him are just a bunch of dumb rooms. now let's face it, when trumped won in 2016 -- you can see obama there, still shell-shocked in november of 2016. trump embarrassed a lot of the so-called experts, consultants, the pollsters, the strategists, all the big thinkers, and the establishment class. so feeling suddenly diminished, they lashed out at trump, belittling his intelligence. >> the problem here is that the president doesn't read. we know that. >> isn't it remarkable remarkable how little confidence donald trump's own lawyers having him? they think he is too stupid to stand -- sit across the table with robert mueller? >> almost caveman-like. really is. quite frankly. >> a man without curiosity, a man who doesn't read, and it's a

man with an attention span of a rabbit fly. >> laura: okay. that is going back. [laughs] they said similar things by the way about reagan, until he died, of course, and then they all pretended that they never said any of the mean stuff they said about him for his two terms in office. liberals claim to be for the little guy. they are the champions of the average person. but they are really elitist snobs that hard. maureen dowd, "new york times" columnist, used to write these pieces mocking the cultural and culinary tastes of bush 41 and barbara. he ate pork rinds in the two of them watched things like "america's funniest home videos" on tv on sunday nights. the subject was always, look at the bushes. ivy league blue bloods but still unsophisticated, and frankly, not all that smart. but here's a news flash for everybody. no one who becomes president is

dumb. especially not trump, who managed to beat not one, but two political dynasties to enact the white house. remember all the dire predictions made by the political and business savants about a trump presidency? >> if the unlikely event happens and trump wins, you will see a market crash of historic proportions. >> in the event donald wins, i have no doubt in my mind, the market tanks. >> donald trump is moving us toward world war iii. >> the lack of diplomatic and serious engagement strategy, in my view, has us sliding toward war by next summer. >> laura: [laughs] we could do this all night long. that is really entertaining. democrats and their allies imply that they have a monopoly on intelligence and brainpower. but if that's true, why have they screwed things up so badly when they have the chance to fix them? while trump identifies the

threat, for instance, posed by china and has challenged them, who can forget bill clinton pushing for china's success or less on the world stage with his misguided wto push? >> disagreement is a good deal for america. our products will gain better access to china's market. if china gains no new market to united states, we will gain tough new safeguards against surges of imports and maintain the strongest possible rules against dumping products that have hurt americans in the past. >> laura: oh, my gosh. [laughs] rhodes scholar, yale undergrad, yale law school, and like many others, he didn't see the obvious coming. china has manipulated and distorted world markets, engaged in blatant ransacking of our intellectual properties, and dumped heavily subsidize products into the united states, leading to the loss of millions of u.s. jobs. the ceo of minnesota's cambria,

it makes countertops, told us earlier this week how china targets u.s. manufacturers for the sole purpose of destroying them. and then, dominating the market. >> they are subsidized by their government. the people's republic of china is not a friendly participate in a free enterprise economy in america. they subsidize their companies, they run their banks, they are state-owned. and they are going after american manufacturing. >> laura: but no worries because democrats have all the answers. now remember president obama sharing us, by the way, that his cabinet would be staffed with t? >> we are on track to flip the switch in october first. >> we are on track to have the marketplace up and running on october 1st, and confident that we will be up and running and on track on october 1st. >> nobody says the site is working the way we want to do. certainly the president acknowledge yesterday, no one could be more frustrated and i

am, and the president, that this isn't smooth. >> laura: all right, $120 million or so, write, to get that website, was it more? and they couldn't get a website working. like a freshman at mit could get the website working. who can forget the obama administration's foreign policy flops? again, these are the smart people, remember. mazie hirono said we are too smart for our own good. remember when he designated the muslim brotherhood is moderate islamist ng egypt nt called iran's president a moderate reformer? >> we are encouraged that president rouhani received from from the iranian people a mandate to pursue a more moderate course. their commitment to go to a different course will be good for the region in the world. >> laura: it's been awesome so far. how about all the geopolitical geniuses that hillary's state department, allowing our ambassador to travel to benghazi when we knew about attributed security threats and an unstable situation on the ground?

he and three others ended up dead. trump removed the rose-colored glasses and what he did his he confronted the rogue powers in the region as they exist. trump's foreign policy is more pragmatic and prudent. he doesn't believe in nation-building, nor does he believe passivity is the answer in the face of real threats. but the democrats, they feel like, come on, they have with the wind at their backs now. forget all the stuff that happened, there predictions that -- if they didn't want to be true at all. but they feel like they have a head of steam, and you can kind of understand that. they picked up 40 seats in the house. but right now, what i'm seeing, there is very little evidence that they have learned much about america. why they voted in the first place for donald trump, and why they still support so many of his policies, especially on trade and immigration, and force all the democrats in our power, they couldn't win the big races

in florida, texas, or georgia. why not? i'll tell you why, in part, they have not come to terms with the fact that they are decades of errors pave the way for donald trump. i will tell you this, as lee senator claire mccaskill, of course she lost her reelection bid, she seemed to have learned, "i don't think my vote against brett kavanaugh hurt me as mucha spectacle that occurred. there were mistakes made by my party in terms of how that was handled." i'll say. the bright lights for the democratic party, though, they doubt the american people would rally behind them. and they set about to destroy the life of a man who actually is brilliant and one of the finest judges in america. well, instead, most fair-minded people, maybe they didn't go to yale law school, they saw the campaign of the democrats, they campaign a personal distraction, for what it was. insidious. i don't know what the next two years is going to bring. but before use but the warnings of the expert class,

remember just how much they screwed up over the past 30 years or so. and that's the "angle." here now, charlie kirk, turning point he was a founder and president, andrew terrell, senior fellow of the progressive policy institute, and author of the book "man out," scott levinson, democratic strategist and president have advanced group. andrew, now you wrote a piece about how the democrats have foolishly written off white america, and it kind of dovetails -- we dovetail into each other, what i'm talking about. they are very smart. so why do they screw up so much and why did they lose that part of america? >> it is a big feeling of the democratic party. they basically ignored their concerns and even put down the concerns and problems of lots of white american men. you hear the disdain in many, many democrats, not all, and their voices, their expressions,

the deplorables itself -- >> laura: could clinging to their guns and religion. deplorable, charlie kirk, you talked about this a lot. the democrats have always tried to champion our claim that they champion the little guy. we'll help you up. here you got this billionaire guy, trump comes along, his policies are actually helping the little guy. >> it took a billionaire from new york to champion the wants and needs of middle america, which is now everywhere between manhattan and malibu. look, they have called them -- up from the midwestern of the country, slope headed, bible numbers, klinger's to god, god, guns, uncle don mike and religion. you look at nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, they are the ruling class. the proximity to washington, d.c., dictates how much wealth and power you have. the best indication of this, the wealthiest counties in america are red around here in washington, d.c., eight out of the ten wealthiest countries.

middle america saw an donald trump, finally, a populist hero that talked about trade and immigration, a way that no one had for a long time. >> laura: scott, mazie hirono's comment just really -- i found it interesting on a number of levels. i don't think she realized -- she was speaking truth to power in a way, because a lot of us have been watching this slow moving train wreck against blue-collar america, both from democrats and republicans who missed the boat on china, missed the boat and immigration, they missed the boat on after, and mazie hirono said, we are just too smart. we can't really connect with the hearts of america. >> no, that's actually not what she said, laura. she said it's a struggle to make things digestible. >> laura: because americans are too stupid to understand. >> i'm sorry you feel that way, laura. i'm sure you don't really feel that way but you keep repeating that you think that americans are too stupid. i don't know why you would repeat that. >> laura: hillary called on

the deplorables. >> just over the last week, we had a complete attack on intellectualism by the republican party. this administration started with an attack on obamacare, it failed. the fact is, they tried to destroy obamacare, and americans recognized that all they were doing was posturing. they didn't really care about the health care of america because these are complex issues that have to be debated and discussed and strategized. the answer is not just to kill obamacare. nor is the answer, when people -- excuse me, excuse me. laura, if i could finish my thought -- >> laura: i don't want to play your game. smart people wanted to negotiate nafta -- let me ask you a question. >> i was just managing the pot. >> laura: let me ask you a simple thought though my question. you are not going to answer. >> of the ruling class and the philosopher kings were really that smart, the ba would not be a total mess for 20 years. nafta wouldn't have decimated --

>> we had republican presidents during those 20 years! the fact is -- >> now you see the democrats say, just trust us with more power. we just haven't implemented -- exactly where they rebellion of donald trump was routed. the american people know better than the rulers here in washington. >> laura: chris matthews had a comment i thought that was fairly interesting about how the democrats have become the elitists. they were always really against the elitists. everyone likes my people. smart people are great. andrew, just take a breath, let me play something for you, and then you can react. i would assume you don't think chris matthews is a member of the right-wing conspiracy. >> i don't understand your attacks and intellectualism. >> laura: stopped talking. speak with a true democrat, lowercase d, -- as her democrat is by the party regains that with white, black, hispanic

people, everyone, starting to think of themselves as one of them instead of being better than them, they'll get back to the party of the people. and they are not there yet. there's too many elitists, they are so much elitism in the eight democratic party. it is so outrageous. >> laura: andrew, you disagree with matthew is? >> no, not really. i think there are part of it that is right. there are problems with both political parties, problems washington for a long time here. but the thing about the democrats, and that has really gotten to bother me, is the political correctness, they can't be men's problems, which i talk about in my book, "man out," instead they see men as the problem. they don't look at the concerns of men, men who are out of work, struggling, fatherhood, families, men who have are strg with poor health, mental health, and men who don't know what it means to be a man today. >> laura: since andrew took a

bite of that one, scott, let me read this from tim ryan, who actually had another interesting point about all of this. we'll put it on the screen. "the achilles' heel of the democratic renders that we look elitist and judgmental." democrat from the rust belt of ohio. your reaction to that? >> the fact is, when we look at trying to find a solution to the global crisis of warming in our environment, that is us trying to take a stab at a difficult policy, to not deny it, like a president has, and the face of experts, we are trying to deal with the policy challenges coming out tonight. same is true with health care. we are trying to address the policy challenge, not there every one out of health care. what americans want, which is why i began 40 seats, is health care that works. they did not want health care just thrown out. that is why we gained seats, laura, and you can't deny that we gained seats this year --

>> laura: i actually said that in this. 24. i made that point. but you weren't listening. this is why liberals don't learn. don't listen to what the people are telling you. speak of its importance to do is understand why we picked up seats, laura. >> laura: oh, i know why you picked up seats. charlie, let's talk about -- is because here, specifically on the issue of very complicated issue like trade, you have bob lighthizer, wilbur ross, stephen vaughn, inside the u.s. e.r. the final finest thinkers on te and the government we have ever had, ever, and i worked for reagan. they are smart, getting it done, and they have already made huge headway. obama promised it, and clinton thought about it. never would happen. it's bigger the difference is you have very smart people finally negotiating for the amen people. not for big transnational corporations trying to benefit foreign nations, such as china, so they can dump their products here. the other important point is, liberals, they say, oh, we are

for gun control, they walk around with armed guards. they want open borders, yet they live with. >> laura: the church, by the way, politicizing a nativity scene, they protest president trump's immigration policies ended a liberal district court judge actually actually help an

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♪ >> laura: we've long told you about activist judges undermining trump's immigration policies, but this next story is outrageous. a district court judge in massachusetts is accused of helping an illegal immigrant snake out a backdoor to avoid being deported. [laughs] here's the back story. jose medina perez of the dominican republic was in court on drug charges and also faced a fugitive warrant for drunk driving. in a new audio recording obtained by "the boston globe" " his defense attorney is heard at the bench with the prosecutor. judge shelley joseph, they raised doubt about whether medina-perez had been correctly identified by i.c.e. and whether he should be set free. listen. >> i don't think it's him. >> [unintelligible]

>> laura: no minutes after that recording, witnesses say the illegal was escorted out a back door and then released from custody. he then scaled a fence and escaped. we should note he has not been caught. joining me now, leo terrel, civil rights attorney and brian calley, a former federal prosecutor in massachusetts. brian, i want to start with you. how unique is it to have a federal investigation into a sitting state court judge on an issue such as this? >> it's not common at all, laura. it's a bizarre set of facts, right? the defendant is arrested on drug charges, he's been deported

twice before, and then because, for whatever reason, the judge turns off the tape recorder, contrary to court rules, we don't really know what she says next, the next thing you know, he's running out the back door into the streets of boston. i think even by massachusetts standards, this is a little bit too much judicial activism, and it has lied to, according to "the boston globe," a federal investigation. a grand jury investigation. that come in and of itself, is quite unusual. >> laura: he has since been caught, i want to make sure i get this right. he has since been caught. the underlying facts of this are really disturbing. governor charlie baker spoke out about this, leo, i want your reaction. let's watch. >> the facts of this case as presented by the media indicate a willful attempt to obstruct the work of a federal law enforcement official. and that is in an appropriate role for a judge. >> laura: now i guess judge

shelley has not been on the bench very long. nevertheless, leo, would you say, judge joseph, would you say this is warranted? is this extrajudicial conduct? i mean, when you look up activist judge, this is really activist judge. this is not just a ruling, this is "go." >> well, laura, hi, thanks for having me. first of all, going after the judge, what about the prosecutor and the defense attorney and the officers who allowed him out? to escape? i find this really odd because, as the governor said, based on the facts from the public, where is the investigation of the district attorney and the prosecutor? wasn't there a conspiracy when they all got before the judge and to set things? so i think my colleague, who is on the show, is ignoring the prosecutor who represents the state of massachusetts, and the defense attorney. why single out the judge? why? i'm confused. one other point --

>> laura: is a judge not have control of their own court? brian? >> i think people expect a judge to uphold the law, interpret the law, without support the law. i think the focus is on the judge right now because it is such a bizarre set of facts. that is why i think the judges under investigation. we don't know what the grand jury will find, apparently come according to "the boston globe," they are investigating, they are hearing different witnesses. who knows where it will lead. this is not what -- >> are you on national tv saying that it was just the judge and nobody else? you know as well as i do, being a federal prosecutor, that there have got to be some evidence where the judge actively instructed someone, and you are just speculating right now. >> wait a minute. there is evidence on the record where she says, "i.c.e. is going to get him," and then, in violation of the court rules, she turns off the tape recorder. she doesn't turn off the tape recorder because she is obeying the court rules.

she knows that she's doing something, it seems, that is not appropriate. the next thing you know, the defendant, an illegal alien, is running out the back door into the streets of boston. >> laura: he knew what he was getting. he was getting a get out of -- literally getting a get out of deportation free card. okay? that is what he was getting. >> brian and laura, what about -- get the prosecutor on the "laura ingraham show," the prosecutor and the defense attorney" >> laura: leo, i love you, if you want to be my w will not be happy about that. can we do say that? will always take booking help. i love that. here's the problem, in massachusetts, we have at least some of the counties are sanctuary counties. boston itself is a sanctuary city, correct? so this is kind of in the dna now of boston, that you don't want to release people out the front door of the courtroom because i.c.e. is going to, on

occasion, we help more than on occasion, be there, to arrest them once they are released. and they'd all that, that is why they go out the back door. sneak out the box. >> i guess we now have sanctuary courtrooms. >> laura: code point. >> based on this, if you are having a sanctuary city, you have just stated that every official who endorsed a state-sponsored sanctuary city should be arrested for failing to cooperate with i.c.e. that is what you are basically saying. >> laura: that might go a little far, but, well, you are getting warm. you are getting warm, leo. left my great debate, guys. thanks so much. with the christmas season comes, what? santa, candy canes, headaches from shopping? nativity scenes? this year, instead of being surrounded by adoring animals, baby jesus is surrounded by a cage. that is right, -- why are we massachusetts again? a massachusetts church is trying to send a message about trump's immigration policy by putting the baby jesus in a big, square

cage. where are the three wise men? separated by a metal fence. reading the book "deportation." here is the pastor defending this decision. >> at 60 million refugees worldwide, and we are wondering what that might look like 2,000 years ago, if this family encounter the same dynamics. >> laura: first of all, if he is a priest, wears his collar, although i like the plaid, looking good. could we find a collar? and that's not the first time, by the way, this church has waded into politics. last year, that same nativity scene had baby baby jesus surrd by a list of the deadliest mass shootings. joining me now, dan bongino, host of "the dan bongino show." dan, this is literally separating church from state with a cage, right? is that where we are? >> laura, i read an interesting piece a while ago about how the government has is really incredible success in stopping smoking. the reason i did was because

everyone out there knew someone who smokes, read? so they knew how to talk to those people. it was a mom, dad, brother. the problem with liberals is, in this case, the priest on the pocono church said, we were just looking to spark a conversation. this way? like, why would liberals want to spark a conversation? to they always do it in the worst way possible? taking advantage of nativity scene freighted takes advantage of the colin kaepernick case. he takes a knee came out okay, you want to talk about police -- but he was a pair of socks on with part of cops depicted as pigs. we can talk about immigration but clearly, liberals have not learned that putting a cage around baby jesus is probably not the way to spark a conversation. >> laura: dan, in some parts of the country, they had to actually put baby jesus and have ties to the ground because people would steal the baby jesus. i mean, people will take the wise men, take the dash that's why a log nativity scene is always better.

it's harder to physically take their people and the animals, but they actually will steal them. at first, i thought, oh, god, this is -- they really need a lot of security for their manger scene. they are trying to make a point. so the lefty priest says this in "the boston globe." "we thought we would kind of put a mirror image of what it would look like if this happened 2,000 years ago." it's kind of a mirror image of where we are at today. thomas aquinas. what? i don't even understand that. go ahead. >> 2,000 years ago, laura, we did not have the airbus or the 747, okay? there wasn't a way to transport millions of people into a sovereign nation at any given time. listen, with all due respect, i'm a practicing catholic, i love my faith. my wife is an immigrant to this country. i am not anti-immigrant, i'm anti-lawbreaking. you have to come here legally like my wife did. this is not a couple make that argument. one more thing, liberals, do you

have to put a will do my blowtorch and everything? to have to blow up -- >> laura: they do. stick with a destroyed halloween now, every costume, every parent have to worry if it's cultural appropriation, you couldn't wear the black panther costume apparently if your kid wasn't black. this was an actual controversy. they blew up thanksgiving for colonialism, or whatever liberal victimhood of the day. can we just -- >> laura: they are anti-fun. they are not fun people. they are not fun. >> don't mess with baby jesus. just leave baby jesus alone. let us enjoy christmas. i'm begging you, just give us one holiday. >> laura: dan, there is no room at the end for baby jesus and there is no room in america for the thousands of thousands of people in tijuana, okay? a mirror image, as the priest said. no wonder if he were people are going to church. stick with the gospel and leave the theatrics and props to other people. dan, thank you so much. when it comes to -- coming up, a related topic. more christmas songs are being added to that do not playlist this year. we will examine the body

language, also, at george george w. bush's funeral, some are talking about. that in "seen and unseen" with raymond ar

♪ ♪ baby don't ♪ baby, it's cold outside >> laura: it's time now for "seen and unseen." tonight's edition, verboten christmas songs and gross. last week we told you about a station banning what you just heard, "baby it's cold outside" from the airwaves. now a new abc piece suggesting that other songs could be just as problematic. so if the left-wing grantors have their way, you may have to stop singing all the songs you love to sing. really? joining us now with all the details, raymond arroyo, fox news contributor, "new york times" best-selling author of the will wilder series. raymond, what an good lord's name is going on? >> laura, abc and others are trying to create their own index

of prohibited christmas songs, starting with "it's beginning to look a lot like gender rigidity." watch. >> ♪ we'll go for a walk ♪ it's the hope of janice and jan ♪ >> that line is offensive because "it offers me no help in dispelling the myth that dolls are just more girls and guns for boys." now songs reflect an error. this was written -- in 1951. >> laura: it also reflects reality. my sons can find a gun and ne twig pile. >> and my sons were little, they could find sticks and turn them into guns. it's natural. >> laura: not all boys like that, but a lot of them do. >> abc is targeting the earth a kit hit "santa baby." ♪ think of all the fellows that

i haven't guessed ♪ ♪ next year i could be oh, so, good ♪ ♪ if you just love my christmas list ♪ ♪ ♪ >> they say that song is full of -- >> laura: unlike everything else on abc. oh, my god! are you kidding me? >> it implies all that a woman must do to end up on santos nice list. all the songs from this era, laura, where about innuendo, but they weren't gratuitous. unlike -- >> laura: when santa said,,, , -- now it might mean something else. >> they will ban your show your show. >> they can do anything and say anything, that is a most objectifying of women, and frankly, men, as well. they are like, this is free expression, turn it off, we don't like that. >> here's mariah carey said, "all they want for christmas," it can also succumb abc put it on their list of do not play

for the holidays. ♪ >> laura: what's wrong with that? >> they say this focuses on what one wanted nothing but a man for christmas. is not the most empowering our evolved message. god for for bed they listen to "blue christmas" or "what are you doing your new year's eve," those are all desperate people wanting your partner. this is called human experience. it is what song is meant to capture. love, desire. >> laura: so the stones, "can't get no satisfaction," that's okay? >> i guess. these people should go in the corner and home "greensleeves" to themselves, but i would tell them to home "i "ave maria" but it might be problematic. >> laura: let's get some of the more sought after choices. >> this is related to the song brands we are talking about because on the one hand, there puritans is saying that you can't listen to that song but on the other hand, the hottest toys of the season are so gratuitous and disgusting.

i hesitate to even share them with you. >> laura: had. >> pimple ph. pimple pete, you actually squeeze and tweeze his visits for points and if you pull -- >> laura: what? >> it's a video. if you pull too hard, his nose explodes and the meg is juice will wash across the players. can you imagine is? >> laura: i dated someone like this. >> i used to try to avoid this. now you play for fun. >> laura: is all part of life. >> how about this one? flushing frenzy. you plunge the toilet and after you had a number of times -- okay -- one sleep plunger too many times, the poop goes flying. why are we teaching our kids to play with feces. >> laura: first of all, my son never flushes the toilet. if this teaches him to flush -- so if this helps them -- >> if that poop is coming out of

the toilet -- >> laura: what was your favorite toy? did you like battleship? >> my favorite toy was a nerf gun. i had a nerf gun, and april things in the house. it wasn't pretty. >> laura: battleship? >> we have to talk about the bush funeral. this is very important. there were some moments we wanted to decode, the body language was quite revealing. now here are the former presidents and their wives before president trump's arrival. you can see there interacting, go full screen on this, guys. they are jovial, interacting, everybody is talking and happy. michelle and president clinton are laughing. then, then, president trump arrives. he shakes president obama's hand, grudgingly shakes mrs. obama's hand. look at it -- catch the look on mrs. obama. now everybody -- everybody suddenly becomes still lives at madame tussauds. look at hillary. hillary wouldn't even look down the aisle, she is staring -- >> laura: she hasn't averted her gaze.

is there anything you can tell us? there is one point where donald trump crossed his arms. >> he did, during the service. he did cross his arms. >> laura: crossing arms is not the best -- >> it looks protective. >> laura: click you are are worried about something. >> they were icy and a bad cold. their body language, which was open and -- before he arrived -- >> laura: keep going. >> later, president bush came in. he greeted each of the people in the first pew. watch this. then he hands michelle obama and a mentor. remember, he handed her a meant at the mccain funeral. so look at the change -- >> laura: oh, shlomo. >> everyone warms up. >> laura: w is funny as all get up. he is so funny. i thought he did a great job today. i got teared up. that was great. >> very moving tribute to his father. >> laura: i have a question. what was it with the overcoat? >> president trump -- >> laura: he got hit on twitter for the overcoat.

he handed it to the marine. >> he handed it to the marine who took it outside. >> laura: that is an autocrat. maybe he was called. >> maybe he was gold and walked in with a cold and forgot to leave it in the car. if not the end of the world. the interplay between the president is always interesting. >> laura: fantastic. coming up -- by the way, "greensleeves," now i'm going to have it in my head. >> i love "greensleeves." >> laura: depressing song. coming up, why is laughter celeb tom arnold calling out african-american gun owners? african-american gun owners? this next. hey, what are you guys doing here? we've been helping you prepare and invest for retirement since day one. why would we leave now? because i'm retired now. so? we're voya. we stay with you to and through retirement... with solutions to help provide income throughout. so you'll still be here to help me make smart choices? well, with your finances that is. we had nothing to do with that, uh, tie. or the suit. or the shirt.

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♪ >> laura: okay, why is it that whenever african-americans embrace a conservative ideal, they are maligned? with no repercussions? take tom arnold on the issue of nra membership. the actor who has made misogynistic attacks on black conservatives like candace owens, just took a matte black gunowners. claiming they are only five black nra members. well, the nra doesn't disclose membership numbers broken down by race. pew research found that 24% of african-americans were illegal gun owners. not far off the percentage of all adults. so here to debate, horace cooper, from project 21, and

jonathan allen. whether it is a board and guns or supporting donald trump, it seems like the impulse, the reflex on the left, is to say, oh, how pathetic, how silly, call you an awful uncle tom are just plain stupid. >> i think it is generally because the g.o.p. has not been super friendly to african-americans, so it's kind of silly when you embrace politics from a g.o.p., since they are not really working for you. >> laura: the second amendment is not a g.o.p. policy. >> are truly not. i was surprised he thought the number without high interns of any he was joking. i think he's getting. i don't think he is trying to make a broader point that the nra doesn't necessarily -- that is not their target demo, african-americans. i don't think the g.o.p.'s target demo is african-americans praised me when i thought the nra was all about making money,g money. if you want to raise money, he raised it from all people. you want people to be safe, or secure, and be safe gunowners,

doesn't matter whether you are black, white, asian, but the point is, why is it always a pejorative? i thought we believed in diversity, diversity of thought, diversity of belief, and, horace, i've heard that so many times after having clerked for justice thomas, and all the years we've addressed this issue of race and intellectual diversity. i just think that the more the merrier. argue the point. >> tom arnold lives in a little bubble, and in that little special bubble, there is no possibility of any knowledge of experience that is different from that. if i lived in the darkest blue parts of the country, i'd probably, too, would have this attitude. i grew up in texas and it was not unusual. it was actually the opposite -- it would be thought of as unusual if people i knew, black, white, or brown, weren't interested in firearms. i joined the nra at one point, i know many people who have. and, in fact, in our history as black americans, the nra is a civil rights organization has

played critical roles. >> i am from those blue parts, and from southern california, and i love that, that is probably why the whole obsession with guns it strikes me as odd. there are moments in history that when black people would go out to buy guns, there were be responsive restricting gun laws. >> laura: that's outrageous and racist. i don't support that. i think it's ridiculous. >> that's american history. that is where that comes from. >> something the nra fought against, something that people like robert williams from the -- >> laura: sadly democrats -- >> fighting against the ku klux klan, using an nra membership and club -- >> laura: you know what i just thought about, jonathan, if there is -- again, reflex against the police, the police are trigger-happy, unfairly target african-americans, and i can understand that sentiment. i really can. then why wouldn't people want to take control of their own safety? whoever you are, wherever you live, especially a dangerous part, i would rather be in

charge of my own safety instead of some legislator making the call that, oh, no, these people can't have guns because guns are too dangerous. i have the police were too dangerous for african-american communities. >> i think, one, you don't want to have open warfare on the streets between people and the police. also, i think it's because the idea that it doesn't sync up with the reality of the situation. >> laura: i would rather be in charge of my own safety. another topic, i want to get to this about some of the african-american left seem to have some type of anti-semitic bias. i ask this, as we learn of new unearthed comments from marc lamont hill accusing israeli jews of poisoning palestinian water. there is a petition for cnn to rehire him over his previous remarks when he gave that speech at the u.n., many people interpreted that as a destruction of israel, the way he described it. talk about it, horace.

>> one of the saddest things about this, it's not just that this individual's comments were hateful, they were vicious, and nasty, is the historic record of jewish americans working to make it possible for black americans to achieve the civil rights efforts. the naacp was founded with generous support from jewish americans, even groups like the united negro college fund has received the record of jewish americans working for and advancing the interest of black america. it makes it really, really hurtful to hear the kind of comments like these that we continue to hear. >> laura: jonathan, do you think marc lamont hill was fired inappropriately? >> i don't know how on earth to hear river to the sea and this entire speech was about human rg palestinians with respect. palestinians -- >> laura: you think jews are poisoning the water palestinians? >> i don't know what he was talking about.

but palestinians and israel are legally second-class citizens. he was talking about equality. bernie sanders himself has broken out of some of the violence coming out of israel -- >> laura: river to the sea? that is the phrase that anti-semites use. >> they make up the claims of our dog whistles, complemented, complicated things about it is elvis presley given the medal of freedom award a dog whistle. >> laura: thank you. for more on how the trump won and how the g.o.p. could turn things around, grab a copy of my new paperback. you will love it. donald trump is not the only president who has had to deal with a hostile press. ..

♪ >> laura: a life look at saint martin's episcopal church were george h.w. bush lies. as we remember 41 tonight, we found this old clip >> live look at statement up his couple church where george hw bush lies in repose and as what we remember 41 we found an old clip from the white house that

might remind you of someone, tonight's last bite. >> the lovely gentleman with the glasses. >> >> an important question. >> in congress they say i yield to the existing was lady from texas but if you don't want to yield i'm sorry i recognized the gentleman. >> the members of your administration -- >> please go ahead. >> i love watching those old press conferences. he had to wrestle with the press always interrupting, never wanting to yield before. that is all the time we have tonight, take it from here. >> i don't know which christmas island we have left after that. but i'm looking for my catalog, not a lot there. >> nothing frosty. >> something related to climate change, thank you very much. fox news alert, the associated press report