the "story" with tucker is ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." one of the most bewildering parts of our current moment is watching the american left become the mirror image of what it once was. do you remember when liberals supported free speech and due process? when the aclu had principles and cited with wage earners when they pretended to care about you? liberals also used to care about the environments and not climate policy but the actual physical environment of america.

our land, water and trees and even our sidewalks. liberals were worried about mass immigration and over-population. they didn't want to live in a crowded, dirty country. after a lot of searching, we located the last liberal in america who feels that way. we will talk to him in a minute. first tonight, liberals are thrilled by the mueller investigation these days. it seems like all upside to them. their political opponents are harassed day and night. some may be indicted. the administration can barely govern with all of the noise about russia. if you are a progressive who hates donald trump, this is like christmas every single day. or is it? a writer frank has his doubts about. that. he didn't like donald trump, but he wonders if liberals will look

on this moment and consider the mueller investigation worth stdoing. in response to criticism from the left, for example, "trump's white house has pursued the harshest set of policies toward russia since the fall of communism. that is hardly something to celebrate, but nearly all of the pressure from the center left as mentors from the right is towards making it even tougher for russia. the question is, is it wise to risk war with a nuclear armed power for a short-term political advantage o? this ought to be printed and taped to the bridge in the do you want the special counsel investigation to become a staple of presidential life?

it's a creation with few boundaries on the scope and encourages a selection of suspects followed by a search for a crime rather than the other wayat around. that's a good point. democrats are telling us robert mueller is above the reach of government. in their view mueller is like a god prosecutor. accountable only to himself. but the question is will democrats be comfortable with that standard when the next independent counsel investigates the next democratic president? more to the point, what happened to representative government? shouldn't they answer to voters? that is what a representative government is. not anymore. in the name of defending democracy, the left is weakening democracy.he democrats don't seem to understand that now. they are having too much fun watching their enemies suffered.

but they will understand it, and they will likely regret it. robin is a former obama campaign regional director. thank you for coming on. first to the russia question. i would never argue that russia is our friend. i don't think they have our bac back, i think they have undertaken mischief at our expense over the years. but the idea that russia is our primary geopolitical adversary is insane. that would be china. doesn't this whole investigatioi amount to a lie to the american people about the threats we face? >> you know, tucker, i look at this from the standpoint -- i'm a veteran. i look at it as protecting our democracy. the intent was to look at foreign influence in our electoral process. that should not be a partisan issue. that is patriotic american. we both are, and most of the viewers are, i'm sure.

we support federal law enforcement and want to make sure they are not adversely affecting our electoral process. >> tucker: but, like a lot of things, i don't disagree with what you say in theory. but i wonder if we are not undermining democracy in its defense? you have a special counsel who is not accountable to any branch of government. that's not a democratic system where you have someone with the power to destroy your life and put you in prison who can't be accountable to anybody elected by voters? that's the opposite of democracy, is it not? >> i looked at the appointment memo for robert mueller and it gives him authority to look into matters that may arise directly

from the investigation. could this come back on democrats? yes, it could be the flynn memo that came out this week showed us there are two other criminal investigation. those could be against democrats. those could come back to haunt us for sure. >> tucker: i want to get to a more fundamental question. since you are for democracy, i am for democracy, let us just agree on the terms here. every employee of a government in democracy must answer, by definition, to an elected official. the voters are in control, the power resides with them, correc correct? >> yes. >> tucker: what elected official did robert mueller answer to? >> i don't know exactly how thee >> i don't know exactly how the doj works. but i support federal law enforcement. >> tucker: hold on! >> tucker: hold on. as long as we are defending democracy, let's defend democracy. democracy is predicated on the idea that people rule and rule to their elected officials.cr if he is working for us, if he

is a federal employee, which he is, which elected representative can fire him? which elected representative does he answer to? the answer from democrats is a nun. but that is not democracy. that is something else.de that is more like a monarchy. >> well, he answers to president trump. by technicality, he is head of all law enforcement. he is our chief law enforcement officer. would he not be the ultimate person that he answers to? donald trump said he has the authority many times to fire him and chose not to for political reasons. i think it was a good move on his part.em >> tucker: maybe it was politically or not, but democrats are telling us and i watched the dumb people on tv, its own in my office all day long. i hear them say again and again that trump cannot fire or rain in a federal employee. he doesn't have the authority to do that. that seems to me to be a pretty clear argument against democracy.

he says voters have no rule in those. they have to sit back and let this guy elected by nobody do whatever he wants? is that a democracy, are we defending that? >> no, and you are correct to point out the hypocrisy of the left on some of the other networks. i watched those networks too. i watch conservative media, i watch the other mainstream networks, and they are not calling out things appropriately. you are correct that president trump has been tougher on russia than any other postwar president. that is correct. i fact-check to that npr because that is a trusted source. >> tucker: [laughs] that is where we differ. a 30,000-foot question here, we are tough on russia, tougher than the cuban missile crisis. how are we safer because of that? does it make you feel safer? it doesn't make me feel safer.

>> as far as protecting our democracy and protecting it against cyber warfare. that's a real problem in this day and age. we saw all of the u.s. intelligence agencies come out clearly and to say that this was a problem. this actually did happen. president trump has kind of been waffling on whether or not he believes u.s. intelligence. but it's a problem, and we are better for looking into this because it protects our democracy, which again, is a nonpartisan issue. why shouldn't we protect our democracy? >> tucker: robin, thank you very much. foley is a professor and joins us. thanks for coming on. i don't think it's an irrelevant question.in who is robert mueller's boss?? i keep hearingbo that trump cant have anything to do with robert mueller, and neither can the doj. that doesn't sound democratic to me at all. he is kind of a strange

constitutional primera, if you will. i don't know who his boss is. in theory, he is an employee or an officer, more specifically, within the department of justice. he would be accountable to the attorney general, who is in turn accountable to the president. however, what they have done is disable that accountability by not only obtaining jeff sessions' recusal, but by now suggesting that the acting attorney general mr. whitaker can't exercise supervisiong because if he does, it will be shutting down a legitimate investigation and obstruction of justice. and if the ag can't fire mueller, presumably the president can't either without facing the same headwind of political criticism that might fail his presidency. so they have managed somehow to completely disable one of the president's key constitutional powers, which is the power to fire his subordinates. >> tucker: what you are telling me is the howling pack

cable news morons braed until he is not accountable to any elected official and this is the democracy we are supposed to be defending? of >>nd yes, that is pretty much it in a nutshell. and they did it on purpose. i think one day they are going to come to regret it, because ie you can do this to president trump, you can do this to any incoming future presiden president. >> tucker: leaving trump or any future politician out of it, there is nothing voters can do because they are coldly powerless over robert mueller. o isn't that the opposite of the system we are supposed to be living under? >> yeah. he is kind of a 4th branch of government unto himself. he has entrenchment via regulation which means he can't

be fired except for "good cause."ry you would have to lay the foundation to even try to begin to fire him which is not easy to do. it's the functional equivalent of having tenure as a professor. it's very difficult to get rid of him, and if you do dare to try to fire him, if trump, or whitaker, or a future attorney general tried to do it, you could be sure there would be investigation after investigation afterat investigation, and cries of obstruction of justice. it would be a very high political price to pay. >> tucker: he is a heavily armed pope. and we just have to kind of play with it. okay. professor, thank you. i am not a lawyer and appreciate the clarity on that. thank you. former fbi director james comey will testify tomorrow. why he is going there? what questions should house members ask him? it is easy to lose track of all these different threads. terry is a former deputy fbi assistant director for counter teri remember.

thank you so much for coming on. what should members of the committee and the house ask of mr. james comey tomorrow? >> first of all, we should all>> keep in mind that when you take the clinton email server investigation and the russian collusion investigation, much of this was not done in accordance with the way the fbi normally does business. that is the first clue that something was wrong with the decision-making process inside the fbi. nswhat i would do, because these people on the committee had access to millions of records and done a lot of interviews over the last couple years, they have a lot of information. what i would try to do here, because i think the key here is to find out from jim comey if he ever thought it was political interference with what he was doing in the fbi, the decisions he was making, and if he did, who were the people behind that? because after all the questions that have been asked, we still don't have simple answers to simple questions. let me take one, for example. i would like to see an answer to this.

who made the decision not to use the grand jury in the clinton email investigation? that would have saved us a lot of trouble right now becauseur e would have a neutral party in the fbi, the department of justice, all these personalities would have been out of it. but that didn't happen. why did that not happen? jim comey should know the answer toto that. he should know who decided not to use a grand jury. another simple question is, i would like to go to the interview with hillary clinton. we know that he was already working on the memo to exonerate her even before she was interviewed. i think they should really hone in on all of the questions related to the planning of that interview, and we are trained to do interviews in our car, when we get to the streets, the normal fbi case, you plan a lot of these interviews in the back of your car, you are talking to eachch other, you put somebody n the front seat and you plan and, you know going into it what to expect, what you're going to try to get out of it, and kind of

t have an idea of what you're probably going to be told by the subject. you are independently in control of all ofec that. the atmosphere, everything. so in the clinton case, that is not what happened. in the clinton case logistically, all kinds of people were involved in making decisions that made that interview just about useless. we need to know why was that, who was calling those shots, and who in the doj was doing that? to give you a quick example, why was the chief of staff for hillary clinton at the state department, and part of the problem here,he why was she allowed to be there representing hillary clinton as one of her attorneys? these are really problematic. it really problematic. >> tucker: two years later, we still don't know that. very interesting, thank you very much for that. this is a fox news alert, multiple sources are telling fox news tonight at the president plans to nominate heather nauert to replace his investor of the united nations. she currently serves as the

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other. if there is one issue that unites almost everybody on that side it is immigration. the principle it is united behind is that anybody from anywhere on the globe should be to come into the united states, no questions ieasked. if you don't believe that, pay attention. for example, look at the theater surrounding the recent migrant caravan. >> all of those were a group of people, a lot of whom are mothersf and children who pose t imminent threat. to speak at the president of the united states has decided that a couple thousand scared, sick people fleeing violence are a bigger threat to the united states than isis. >> guessni what?e it is in our laws that people are allowed to come to our borders and ask for asylum! >> tucker: this is a new thing. it seems they have always had this view, but no. many in the left used to be skeptical of mass immigration, probably for economic reasons because it undermines the wages of workers, but there were many others who had environmental concerns, too, about letting a lot more people into the countr

country. the author of "how many is too many? the progressive argument towards reducing immigration in the united states," and he joins us. thank you very much for coming on. having you is the result of a long nationwide search to find someone with your views, because i remember so well as i get the democrats were really concerned, some work liberals, about overpopulation and the effects on the natural environment. i always kind of agreed with that. tell me your concerns with mass immigration and the effects on the environment. >> tucker, i am not sure i'm the last liberal in the country he was concerned about immigration driven population growth, but we are a minority among environmentalists, i will give you e

they are self-interested. they have no understanding of the future. they have no understanding of the values and virtues that make civilization possible. they are seizing power and in a

manic rage to replace males. you look around at institution after institution taken over by feminists and the absurd ditribes that are launched against males. >> tucker: 5 years ago,ou would have thought heather mcat is kind of a hot head. now i think you are right and you are brave for saying it. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: the war on christmas is not real but it's expanding fast. the latest victim. candy canes. candy canes.

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i will go back a couple of centuries, tucker. the separation of church and state, when the founders came up with her, they basically didn't want president washington being the head of the church of america as the queen is the head of the church of england. that's it.wa they didn't want the archbishop of virginia sitting in the senate. and like a lot of sane concepts, it metastasized into something utterly insane. when you actually are banning colors, when you are banning two of the colors on the color spectrum, red and green so there are only orange, yellow, and blue left, you are bonkers! you are nuts! you have flown the coop of reality. you are living in a more bizarre fantasy then to santa and his reindeer and his elves could ever come up with. >> tucker: [laughs] you just band starboard and port, how dare you? another thing, the university of

minnesota professor tweeted that mary could not have consented the birth of christ, therefore god was behaving in a predatory manner. have you taken any of his classes, mark steyn? >> no, and the reason is, this is because 50 years ago, this kind of shallow banality would have been the province of a drunk undergraduate at three in the morning. i mean, basically the idea that god has gotten the virgin mary back to his pad and she is saying, i really must go, and he isnd saying, baby it's cold outside and put some records on while i poor, i miss the days when atheists were at least intelligent enough to take seriously what they were forcing to knock down. the stupidity and banality and shallowness and productiveness

of this is a dismal comment on the state of atheism in america. >> tucker: it's not even brave. they have never criticized jeff bezos, the richest man in the world, or apple, tim cook in google. they suck up to people in power and beat up on evangelicals, and call themselves rebels. >> and they don't seem to make the same kind of ramadan jokes. it's all bad, isn't it? i wonder why that is, tucker? >> tucker: so you mean, this community college professor, whatever this guy is is not attacking mohammed? >> no, no. this is cardboard courage. by the way, some teachers, even if you are an atheist, to go back to what heather was saying, the greatest glories of western -- music, art, architecture, painting -- were in christianity. you are cutting out botticelli and all the rest of it.

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>> i'm nervous. >> tucker: i am nervous, too, and i don't even know what the questions are. hands on buzzers, i ask the questions, the first one of you to buzz and gets to answer the question. you must wait until i finish to answer it. each correct answer is worth a point, if you get it wrong, we detract a point out of cruelty. best of five wins, are you ready? >> ready. >> tucker: question one, which caucasian 76-year-old says gender male has just announced to the world that he and he alone is the most qualified person in america to be president? >> i don't know about the first part of the -- >> tucker: i just read the scripts here. >> you think it joe biden? >> i know it's joe biden. >> tucker: we will find out. >> old joe biden is reemerging to say hey, wait an amtrak minute here, i think i am the

most qualified person in the country to be president, he said. to>> tucker: for the record, i don't know what says gender means, that is the first and last time i will ever use the term. but you're right, it was joe biden. politicians come up with all types of excuses for their shortcomings but this week, possibly the best on record. which not so bright democratic senator said that her problem has problems relating to americans because they are just too smart. the democratic party is just too smart, says this famously owned smart senator. >> i know who it is. >> tucker: from a state that was added in 1959. >> is that true? the '59 part? >> tucker: mazie hirono. is it mazie hirono, who is just too smart? >> at a symposium, democratic senator mazie hirono was asking what democratic senators should do to reach voters. >> i knew it was hawaii.

>> we democrats know so much, that is true. we have to kind of tell everybody how smart we are. >> right... made to, i also have to tell everyone how smart -- >> tucker: me to! i know too much, that is my problem. the national game show commission has required that the remaining three questions be food related in honor of the holiday season. >> okay, good. >> tucker: question three, millennials are being blamed for killing off which canned food products because they don't like using can openers? >> do we get multiple choice? >> this is just a guess, it's... to know? >> tucker: tuna? that is kind of anke out-there guess. could it be canned tuna? >> 42%, that is so much canned fish sales have dropped since the 1980s. "the wall street journal" says young people don't find it

convenient since it requires i opening a can. how lazy is this generation? many millennials don't even own can openers. >> what other canned food are millennials eating or not eating? >> soup? >> soup, still big. >> tucker: but on marijuana, the can opener becomes too much. i'm getting a new direction in my ear piece saying, the following two questions are now worth two points apiece. >> oh good, i have a chance. >> tucker: i don't understand their reasoning. question four, this is multiple-choice. animal rights activists are asking the ng rest of us to stop using the phrase "bring home the bacon." but they have a replacement phrase. is it a, bring home the tofu. b, bring home the bagels. c, bring home the -- putting! >> i was too early.

>> tucker: are producers are clearly on your side saying answer it anyway. >> thank you, it is a b the bagels. >> tucker: is it b, bring home the bagels? >> bring home the bagels. as a new yorker, i like that. the pork industry is pretty ugly, so absolutely. bring home the bagels. >> tucker: i didn't think about it this morning when i ate it. >> are you saying you didn't know the answer to that even though that was you? >> tucker: when the show is over, it's over. i'm ontoe the next one. okay, final question. >> i got two points? >> tucker: peter doocy in the lead to 3-2. another multiple-choice, so listen carefully and wait until all options are presented. scientists have now discovered the perfect portion size of her french size. in order to live a happy, healthy life, many french fries should you eat per serving? as it a, 20 french fries, b, six french fries. c, 13.5 french fries. or d, no french fries at all.

>> it is b, six. >> tucker: you don't think it's a 20? >> that is a normal serving of french fries. >> tucker: is it six french fries? >> only six fries. [laughter] ig] would rather have no fries then six fries! six french fries is an insult to fries, and to america, and france, for that matter. the professor says they are "starch bombs." >> tucker: i don't know who that foreigner is, but i totally agree with him. he is very true about french fries. >> the best french fries are at the eagles games. you dip them in the cheese sauce. >> tucker: i agree. the producers are paying for being beaten up, whatever those eagles games are. thank you very much. peter doocy, you are the winner and you win a commemorative mug.

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with countries that assassinate people, they are telling us with a straight face.be there must be some sinister reason that the trump is sucking up to the saudis. watch those who know me of paul's outrage >> it is possible that the president himself through trump enterprises may have some financial dealings with saudi arabia. >> saudie. money paying for a 50 rooms inside a trump hotel. what he think of that? >> i can't think of a parallel in american history where a united states president or his family has profited from his office at the way this administration appears to be. >> he is in the white house to make money while making president and to set himself up to make more money after being president. >> i remind you, the president himself has told us why he is taking these audis side. it's all about the money. >> tucker: don lemon, everybody. trump is "taking the t saudis side" for many.

there is no evidence of that, but there is definitely strong presidents for it here in washington. half of the country's elite have made a good living taken thei saudis side for money. they've been doing it for decades. if it weren't for arab petrodollars, washington would have far fewer swimming pools and $80 entrées. bill and hillary clinton would be a lot more poor without these audis. at the clinton foundation received as much a $25 million from the saudice government. they took another $5 million from the royal family's p.r. operation. why did the saudis give the that money? because they care deeply about the childhood obesity crisis and children in africa? if you believe that, get your resume ready. cnn has a reporting position open for you. but it wasn't just the clintons who got rich, their allies did come too. the podesta group did come too. immediately after the lastai election, the podesta group was

hired by a "yes," the saudis, to lobby the u.s. government. in 2017, the podesta group earned nearly $2 million in that contract alone. meanwhile, the democratic lobbying firm did almost as well from those audis. they made a $700,000 just last year and another $600,000 from the saudis this year before bad publicity forced them to end the contract. but nobody, maybe in the world, try to cash in like ari emanuel whose talent agency cut a deal to receive $400 million in investment from the saudi government. this april, ari emanuel cohosted a dinner in l.a. for the crown prince, the one who apparently ordered khashoggi's murder. jeff bezos from amazon was there, of course. here is a "vanity fair" described that evening. topics that were deemed off limits included the prince's bombing campaign in yemen which has b killed thousands of

civilians, the objection of the prime minister in november, and the repression of independent media and journalists, one of whom was recently imprisoned for five years for insulting the royal court." so ari emanuel and his fellow hollywood liberals wanted to make sure that nobody asked the saudis these uncomfortable questions. the left cares deeply about human rights, but not when it gets in the way of business with the saudis. we should pause here in the interest of fairness, two things. it is not just democrats who have taken truckloads of saudi money. republicans in washington definitely have done so, too. second, the saudis are not the only people making america's ruling class richer. hardly. many of our leaders on both sides are being paid off by the chinese government, that is a dictatorship far more blood thirsty than those saudis. the chinese have kidnapped children and harvested the organs of executed political prisoners. they through a nobel peace prize winner behind bars until he died. as we speak tonight, the chinese

are throwing hundreds of rethousands of ethnic minorities into concentration camps. earlier this year, china "disappeared" some went to interpol. how much of that have you heard on msnbc? probably not very much. this is not a defense of saudi behavior. this show has pushed the saudi governmentke to pushing the administration to pointless bombings in syria. the rest of washington, idea come up a lot of those bombings. and how amazingly, the very same people are pretending to be shocked that a primitive desert theocracy killed somebody.pl please, spare us the sanctimony. it is nauseating. up next, the miss universe pageant is ten days away and there is something very notable about the favorite to win back. we will tell you what it is after the break. (burke) parking splat. and we covered it.

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