we will see you on monday night at 7:00. tucker is up next. ♪ >> tucker: good evening. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." think back to the weeks right before the 2016 election. try to remember what they were telling you. one of the main things they were saying if donald trump lost the election, he would not accept result. this would be a deep challenge to the democracy. but turns out like a lot of what they tell you this was projection. ever since that november they have been working to ignore the results but also to destroy anybody associated

with the result. exhibit "a" is the fallen national security adviser michael flynn. he's the archetype for all of this. the documents in the mueller investigation show how far the f.b.i. went to destroy flynn's life. and trace gallagher has details on that. trace? they filed papers to say they encouraged him to bring a lawyer to the interview and never advised him false statement could constitute a crime, they ordered the prosecutor to hand over government files related to flynn's questioning. those documents appear to confirm some of his claims. for example, two f.b.i. agents including former anti-trump agent peter strozk, "both had the impression at the time that flynn was not lying or did not think he was lying. and that warning michael flynn might adversely affect the rapport." former f.b.i. director james comey acknowledged that during the george w. bush or the

obama administration he would never have gotten away sending two agents to the white house. listen. >> both of the administrations there was a process. if the f.b.i. wanted to send agents to the white house, you would work through the white house counsel there. would be discussions and approvals. i thought it's early enough. let's send guys over. >> president trump says the feds tricked flynn in to cooperating. but robert mueller says quoting nothing about the way the interview was arranged or conducted caused the defendant to make the false statements to the f.b.i. i was last december. michael flynn pled guilty to lying to the f.b.i. >> tucker: thank you, trace. the quiz. what crimes did mike flynn commit? if you asked 50 people on the street, what answers would you

get? likely get a full range. flynn worked for vladimir putin. he included with the turks. he was a russian spy. secret agent serving a foreign power. he and carter page were seen reloading on grassy knoll in dallas. that kind of thing. details might be hazy but everybody you ask would know for certain that general michael flynn after 33 years in uniform betrayed this country. how do they know? the media told them so. >> do you view him as compromising the national security of the united states? >> mike flynn betrayed his country. it's unforgivable. the greater crime is what to me in my view was treason. >> what flynn did in supporting a candidate who the russians were helping through this operation is egregious. >> he acted as a foreign agent. >> it's funny because it's treason. >> it's treason. >> tucker: that is a death

penalty offense actually. did mike flynn commit treason? we know the answer with precision because details are available. he gave untrue statement to the f.b.i. about legal phone call he had to the ambassador to the u.s. sergey kislyak. that is it. edid not collude. he did not even lie under oath. he claimed to not talk to about a suggest and the facebook didn't believe -- and the f.b.i. didn't believe him. they threatened to prosecute his son and so he pled guilty. that is what happened. the news media say he is a liar. unlike us. we never lie. he with good people. but flynn is a liar and a criminal. it's partly true. flynn did give inaccurate statements to the f.b.i. agent. he admitted that. he wasn't under oath and that is a crime. okay, what is interesting about this is that the f.b.i.

also lied to michael flynn. but somehow that is not a crime. to restate -- remember this. get a pen. it is okay for the government to lie to you. they do it all the time. constantly, in fact. but if the government ever catches you in a factual contradiction, you are shafted. they can send you to prison, bankrupt you or threaten your children. that's the system we have. america news anchors think it's a great system. they are on the government side on this. most matters. ruling class and they are fully on board. this is the behavior they consider fine. in stark contrast to mike flynn's dastardly lying. notes by andrew mccabe show that the bureau deliberately planned trick flynn to take advantage of his friendliness and the stated desire to help the investigation. we know this because andy mccabe took notes. in notes he explained he told mike flynn he wanted to

interview him as quickly, quietly and discreetly as possible. mccabe suggested having a lawyer, one of the pesky attorneys present, would be unnecessary and time consuming, hassle. don't worry about it, man. flynn and a close associate who described him as trusting agreed to the terms. a mistake. he thought he was helping the f.b.i. he wasn't. he was walking into a trap. one of the agents he met was peter strozk. remember the name? he is the political activist who famously promised his mistress he'd help stop trump. whatever that means. we are getting a sense of what it means, actually. according to the f.b.i. own documents, andrew mccabe and peter strozk and the rest decided that the f.b.i. agents should not warn flynn making misleading statement to the f.b.i. would be a crime. the analysis suggests that somehow flynn knew this and he must have been a moron for not bringing a lawyer and since he ran an intelligence agency he must have known any calls to kislyak would be tape and

transcribed. but that is, in fact, an argument for his innocence. of course he knew that the f.b.i. was be able to check everything he said against information they themselves had gathered. knowing that, why would he lie? maybe because he didn't know he was lying. the downfall seems to be engineered from day one. the feds chose the man and picked a crime to pin on him. >> then moore decided to go -- mueller decided to go back and charge him. it became a can hunt. they put him in a cage and shot him. >> tucker: put him in a cage and shot him. because there is still no evidence of russian collusion doesn't mean we haven't become more like russia. former u.s. attorney for the district of columbia is joining us now. joe, i want to state at the outset, he lied! say news anchors. he lied. he deserves whatever is coming to him. assess that claim. if you would.

>> he did not lie. the f.b.i. knew it. this is a contextual crime created by the f.b.i. and sally yates the acting attorney general. remember after the election, hillary clinton needed a reason why she lost. enter russian collusion. part of that was to find somebody in the administration to frame talking to the russians. they found general flynn. in fact, all of general flynn's conversations with the russian ambassador and everybody else were legal. so why did the f.b.i. approach him? they knew what he said. they knew it was legal. the answer is they wanted to frame him. they succeeded. he did not tell them false information. some of it may have been cause or nuance, he did not lie. indeed the agent who actual 302s are available said he didn't lie. and it's interesting that mueller did not turn over the original 302s to judge sullivan today. he turned over an interview of

agent strozk which was done months later by mueller's people. the answer is michael flynn was framed to get donald trump. sally yates, james comey, peter strozk, andrew mccabe all planned it. what you are watching play out in an american courtroom is one of the most disgraceful events in american criminal justice. and everybody on mueller's team should be ashamed of themselves and none of them should ever be allowed to go back in the department of justice. >> tucker: any attorney who advised michael flynn to plead guilty rather than going public with the frameup happening to him should be disbarred, i think. what do you make of the reaction to it? a lot of people watching, even on this channel pretty well informed news consumers are surprised to learn that the crime here, the only crime here arises from the lawyerless interview in white house. flynn was never charged with colluding with anybody. including the turks. you heard that he was working

with erdogan. he was never charged with that. he has been destroyed as a man. the family is crushed and bankruptcy and had to sell the house on the basis of one crime. why didn't anybody on any other network say couldn't it be slightly disproportionate? >> well, the people on the other network wanted one thing. they wanted to find a way to destroy donald trump because he wasn't supposed to be elected. but he beat them. once they were beaten they got angry and then they got vindictive. then they got vindictive using the criminal justice system weaponizing it. john brennan at the c.i.a. and james clapper followed through on the promise threat to figure out a way to get the people they didn't want elected to make up for the fact that she, hillary clinton, had lost. this has become one of the greatest scandals in the

history of the country and the media is ignoring it. it's truly important that what you are doing by focusing on the stories continue to be done until there is a new attorney general and there can be a grand jury to find out who was it that leaked conversation of michael flynn with the russian ambassador? that was a crime. the leak to david ignacios of the "washington post" to expose michael flynn's conversation with the russian ambassador was a crime. the question tonight is why isn't that crime being investigated? >> tucker: because everyone in washington is deeply invested in the failed foreign policy and anybody who suggests changing the foreign policy they are deeply invested in to get rich from gets crushed. joe, thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: so the mike flynn story, a lot more interesting than it gets credit for being. it raises important questions about how the important operates. and the rules under which we live in america.

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>> tucker: so is general michael flynn a villain as they are telling you on television, or as it increasingly appear are there deeper lessons that all of us can learn? former aide to chuck schumer joins us tonight. chris, thank you for coming on. what is so interesting if you

take three steps back, and we know about the flynn case what we knew two years ago. one count. lying. the news anchors, all of them accomplished liars themselves, are upset he is a liar. but you know who else lies a ton is the government. who thought up a system that the government lies to you a at once, including lies to get you to commit crime for which you could be prosecuted but if you misstate a fact or lie you go to jail and they are considered heroes by the lying news anchors. are you happy with a system like that? i'm serious. >> he had pled to lying. >> tucker: yeah. he did. for sure. >> there are other things -- there could have been. i'm an attorney, i negotiated plea deals. you don't usually plea to the worst thing you done. we don't know how bad his actions were. we know he pled to lying. we know he lied. >> tucker: even if you plead to a crime we assume you did

something much worse? i thought you said you were a lawyer. >> i can only speak to my experience as a lawyer. when you cut a plea deal it's not for the worst thing you do it's a lowest crime -- >> tucker: if you have evidence he has done something else. i want to ask about the government. i'm not defending lying. i'm appalled when i see it on television and i usually do. i'm appalled when clapper lies to government. he committed perjury and cool, he was picked up as an intelligence am lust. no consequences whatsoever. they can lie to you without the limit and without penalty. but if you as a citizen misspeak you go to jail. are you comfortable with the system? why aren't they held to the same standard? >> i'm not sure how it applies

here. he was -- [overtalk] okay. fine. address the question. i think it is an important question. we should get straight before we proceed. all of us who live in this country. the government gets to lie all it wants or literally there is nothing you can do about it. but if you misspeak, you go to jail. are you comfortable with that system? everybody else on the other channel are totally happy with it. are you happy with it, too? >> it's a slippery slope. i think we want everyone to be honest all the time. are we now saying people can't go in as the undercover agents as a drug ring or terrorism ring and lie about the identity? so you are talking about a slippery slope here. the agents -- >> we are having a casual conversation and then you lie -- >> you don't have any problem. , so if the f.b.i. lies to you in course of the investigation and then charges you with lying it doesn't ring any bells for you? you don't think maybe that is a system inherently unfair?

no? it's cool if it's something you don't like? >> law enforcement infiltrate crime rings and lie about things to gain access to people. be clear what you are talking about it here. are you saying that should stop, too? >> you don't know. no. i'm all for cleaning up the drug rings and stopping espionage and doing business of the law enforcement. so you have andrew mccabe and peter strozk both of whom clearly lied. one of them was canned from the f.b.i. for lying. yet neither one faced even suggestion of the prosecution because they are immune from that. not in the service of breaking up drug rings. they just lied. it doesn't bother you? >> i'm trying to figure out what the lie was to michael flynnment i don't believe they lied to michael flynn.

they were asking him questions and he lied to emthis. i don't know what you are talking about. trying to follow you. >> hold on. slow down. i'm saying in the case of andrew mccabe, you don't know if you follow the news but he had to lead the f.b.i. for the dishonesty. >> sure. >> is he is prosecuted for that? should he be? flynn, they threatened his son. are there standards that are universally applied or only to the people whose politics we don't care for? >> again, i would like everyone to be honest all the time. >> not under the threat of prosecution. >> but sometimes we have to go after the bad people and you shouldn't lie to law enforcement. when you are a national security adviser to the united states, president of the united states you should know better than to lie. >> they should have known better. buyer beware. >> tucker, i don't think it's the worst thing he did. >> don't do anything to throw you many prison but could show

those are the rules. predatory law enforcement establishment that is lying in wait to wreck your life. if you don't know that, you are an idiot. that is what you are saying. >> was it okay to lie to el chapo when they infiltrated his drug ring? >> i love that. that is my favorite response. if you don't like something, either you don't like kids or you are on el chapo's side. for the record i'm anti-el chapo. >> i'm glad. that's good. >> on that note of bipartisan agreement, thank you, chris. >> thank you. >> tucker: michael cohen doing three years in prison and he was just sentenced but doesn't have to report for three months so he is going on a public his tour. of course. he was on g.m.a. this morning and he took credit for somehow -- this is the best -- reuniting a fractured country. >> the country has never been more divisive. one of the hopes i have out of the punishment as received as

the cooperation i have given, will be remembered in history helping bring the country back together. >> tucker: michael cohen. healer of the breach. dan bongino former secret service agent and author and he joins us tonight. when you see cohen up on the screen, is your first thought this is a man bringing the country together? he is healing the divisions here. balm on the soul of a weary country. >> talk about the hubris. hubris on top of human hubris gt wrap. is he serious? he is unifying in a way. both sides agree cohen is a snake. think about this. the way this works in a criminal case having arrested

people in the federal system and gotten them to flip, you get a 5k letter it's called. letter written to the judge understood kateing hey listen, this guy cooperated and he gave us value -- judge indicating hey, listen, this guy cooperate and he gave us valuable information. cohen never got a letter from the d.o.j. they don't even trust this guy. he taped his client. i'm not suggesting that this is all on the up and up. but i'm suggesting things happen in the business world and things we may not like. he taped the clients. he is unifying in all sides think he is a snake. >> tucker: he also seems that and i mean this without cruelty but he seems a little dumb. i do feel a little sorry for him. i'm sure i'm the only person in america. i feel sorry for any man headed to prison. i feel sad for you. but michael cohen seems he was thrust in a position of

prominence and he is still bewildered how did i get here? >> i agree on one point. we can all agree that michael cohen would not be going to prison if he was not associated with trump. it's clear this was some form of selective justice at this point. but cohen handled this tremendously. you are in the media business and me, too. this is all about the snapshot and sound bites be. quick. when the memorable sound bite from the sound bite with george stephanopoulos hey, i'm done lying now, that is the memorable sound bite. you had a bad intersue. throw that out there. that should not be the take-away. now i'm really done lying. he is not a credible witness. every side agrees he is not a good valuable guy to testify on their behalf. go away and take the punishment. >> he is hapless. not clever enough to be sinister. it's great to see you. have the best weekend. >> you too, buddy. take care.

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least you'd think so based on what you hear every day. but surprisingly, people in tijuana are upset. we interviewed a delegate lopez, we talked to him the other night who suggested that the caravan has not been that good for tijuana, itself. >> they are still here. problems are still going on. there have been 280 arrests. before it was only for drug possession or drunk in the streets. now it's for breaking and entering into homes. things aren't nice. the neighborhood are tired of them, merchants and the school. >> what is the matter with the people in mexico? >> the california radio host is joining us tonight. >> going back to the topic, i like immigrants and i give everyone in the caravan the

benefit of the doubt. most do want to come for a better life. they are madely dismissed as bigots if they don't like it. but nobody on the left says anything about the reaction of the mexican citizens in tijuana to the caravan who are sounding like donald trump all of a sudden. why are people ignoring this? >> i don't know if they are ignoring it. we ignore the plight of the human beings that cross from one of the poorest country in the world with the 36 years of the civil war and is the copped it -- conduit of exportig drugs to the united states. anytime you stick people in a stadium and tell them to wait there for an unnon-amount of time before they are -- unknown amount of time before they are processed, you'd have

trouble being stuck for an unknown period of time. waiting to see when your family -- >> tucker: i believe that. i probably wouldn't engage in a home invasion in that time. but again what i'm struck by everybody says we have the deep sympathy for the migrants. i have sympathy, too. i never heard anybody on the left say we have deep sympathy for normal people two want to pay taxes and send their kids to school. their lives are being overturned by this. there is an effect of the people who live there when new people come. nobody cares about them at all. even in tijuana. nobody cares about them. why is that? >> i think people care about them. >> tucker: who are the champion? >> there are some problems, one -- wait. we have a problem of government failing. we are not dealing with the refugee problem and people are stuck with the problem in

communities like tijuana. on top of it all we have a problem with the other. there are deep-seeded bias. >> you are saying the people of tijuana are bigots. before we reach that conclusion it's fair to look at the facts. one school in tijuana is closed for three weeks because they can't open. people want to send their kids to school in tijuana, in anyplace. there is trash all over the streets. it's super expensive and there has been a crime spree. all i want from you and everyone on the left is an acknowledgment that there are real concerns, not rooted in the bigotry but are rational and fair to be upset about this. no one will give the benefit of the doubt to the normal people. ever. why? >> there is definitely a right to be concerned about trash and the inability to send your kids to school and the environment and everything else. >> tucker: crime? >> but again, you have to figure out -- >> tucker: upset about crime? >> you should be upset about crime. that is a problem. but you have to look at what

the causes are and who is responsible for what is happening. you are taking people who have a problem of getting food. 67% of the people of guatemala have unavailability to food. they are still dealing with the civil war and the food country that the united states sent down there -- >> tucker: it was tough. >> we did that. sent banana republic out there. >> tucker: and again, i see the self-righteous religious figures showing up on the side of the migrants. why don't people on the left go up and say we'll stand up for you? >> i don't know if i have a good answer. it's set up for the citizens in places like tijuana or here in the united states. we are talking about the

refugee crisis happening. asylum crisis. of the human beings and children. we had a 7-year-old who died crossing over -- >> it's terrible. terrible. >> we have a responsibility. >> i guess. we also have a responsibility to people who already live in tijuana and live in this country. they feel like no one cares about them that is why they elected donald trump. someone should care about them or else they'll get madder, don't you think? >> of course. i do care about my fellow citizens, tucker. clearly i do. but the issue is again, you can't just kick people to the curb because you don't like them because they are refugees and we view people of different socioeconomic status with a bias, implicit bias. take harvard, a test from the project -- >> tucker: i couldn't get to harvard. >> online. thank you. >> tucker: what is it like to be inside a radical cell? we'll speak for the first time

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was struck by your peace. i don't think, i know i never read a piece about the center of this. i don't know what your politics are and i won't ask you. you described this as a religious community almost. >> there a really strong faith-based component. you become absolutely sure that you are right. and nothing is going to sway you from it. you set your course and you figured it out. >> tucker: it doesn't seem from your description like there were a lot of other inputs coming in the cell. like it was self-referential. you talk only to people you are in it with. what are the things that you vinceed yourself of or -- convinced yourself or were convinced of in the cell? >> hmm-mm. oh, gosh. everything. you were able to find what was wrong with everything from school to government, to police, to any interaction people had. you can find what is wrong with it. it's not a happy way to live.

>> tucker: what was your view of violence? >> violence, there is shifty way people talk about it. direct action and diversity of the tactics, a subtle way to say if somebody wants to be violent we'll turn our head and be okay with it. >> tucker: so it's not a nonviolent movement? >> no, no, no. >> tucker: how did you get into it? >> i was a pretty unhappy teenager. i'm told that happens a lot to teenagers. i went looking for an explanation. i ended up reading a lot of radical literature and i found more and more radical literature until i found things that explained happiness wasn't something you had more control over. capitalism was keeping you down. >> tucker: yes. what spurred you to leave it? >> there were, i think two components. there was, there are nasty people in scene. i got mixed up with somebody

and that shook me out of my head space and forced me to reconsider things. i started reading wider and wider literature and i encountered gradual things that made me go, oh, that changes, that can't be true. you get shocked out of the cult. bit by bit. >> tucker: interesting. connor barnes, i want to say again to the audience if you haven't read the piece on quillette, so interesting. i haven't seen anything like it. thank you for coming on. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: colleges are banning comedians from telling offensive jokes when they perform. is that the same as banning comedy entirely? pretty much. we talk to a censored comedian after the break. i wanted more from my copd medicine... ...that's why i've got the power of 1-2-3 medicines with trelegy. the only fda-approved 3-in-1 copd treatment. ♪ trelegy. the power of 1-2-3

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>> tucker: free speech has been ebbing away on college campuses for many years. now colleges seem increasingly able to take a joke. literally. a comedian, host of the youtube show "triggernometry" and he was invited to perform at a college in london but the group who invited him ask him to sign a contract promising not to engage in any way of "racism, sexism, classism, ableism, transophobia, xenophobia, ath schism, antireligion, islamophobia." what is he supposed to talk about? did you make up this list? >> no. if you go further in the contract they demanded all jokes has to be respectful and kind. i was born in the soviet union and this contract made me feel right at home.

>> tucker: it's a little ham-handed i would say. you are a working comedian. why i'm grateful you are on. what is your life like now? >> well, it is getting very sensitive. this is an outlier. no one could suggest that every university or college is like this. but the reason i made a stand on this issue i don't want it to get worse. >> tucker: yes. >> i don't want it to continue. >> tucker: but it is so striking this is applied to comedians, the standards. they're applied to all of us. we are all terrify and we live in fear and freedom is evaporating. but comedians used to be a group by definition was transgressive, that is the point of comedy. sayingsaying what people are afd to say. is it ominous comedians are not allowed to practice? >> i think so. we are canary in the coal mine and this is why it's gone viral. it's nothing to do with comedy. the story. the reason people are tuning in and watching the video we

recorded of this is because it is not about comedy. this is about ordinary people up and down the country and in britain and america feeling like they can't say what they think. i have had so many messages from the people who are messaging me. all kind of people. sometimes women going i don't agree with radical feminism. if i say it in the workplace tomorrow i won't have a job anymore. it's coming to that everybody feels like we are all kind of under arrest. everything we say can and will be used against us in the court of public opinion. and they are coming for the comedians first because we are the ones that, as you say, are allowed to transgress. everybody else feels it. that is why the story has the resonance that it has. >> this is not sustainable. thank heaven. god bless you for what you are doing. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: free speech non-profit sued the university of texas saying the school has suppressed speech.

like many colleges, texas has a special bias response team. armed or unarmed, i'm not sure. but the purpose is to investigate allege bias at the school. more than 100 investigations occurred in the past year and a half. the president of the speech first filed the lawsuit and she joins us tonight. what does the suit allege? >> we allege that the university of texas has four unconstitutional policies on the books. verbal harassment policy. a campus climate response team. bias response team as you said. essentialable use policy which goffs all internet and digital -- governs all internet and digital use on the campus. residence hall manual and the students are terrified to express opinion. they don't know what they could be in trouble for. the policies are written broad with the vague terms that students out of an abundance of caution self-censor. they are terrified. >> tucker: like downtown

kandahar 2000. >> this is in the eye of the beholder. there are terms like "rude" and "uncivil" and "insulting" and "derogatory." >> tucker: are there enforcement penaltys? >> yes. for the acceptable use policy if you sent a rude or an uncivil e-mail you could be subject to suspension and you could be referred to the police for criminal prosecution. >> tucker: is there any buried in the regulations, any hard definition of what "rude" is? >> there is not. therein lies the trouble. the devil in the details. you have unelected campus administrators and bureaucratic who are the ones defining that. verbal harassment policy says language that is not necessary to communicating political, philosophical, religious ideas. who defining what is necessary? is it me? somebody who believes in the constitution saying what is necessary or someone who works

for the diversity and the inclusion bureaucracy determining what is necessary? >> tucker: i don't understand how a state school can ignore the bill of rights. >> there we go. that cease why we sued them. >> tucker: i don't know what will happen. i know i'm rooting for you. >> thank you. >> tucker: good to see you. well, time for the friend zone. we bring a friend of fox on the show. dan is one of the best friends at fox. one of the people who helps the place run. he appears on "your world" with neil cavuto and has a novel called "blood in the streets." it's so impressive. the obvious question, when did you write this? >> well, jeez, i wrote this back, it started as a screen play and i wrote it years ago. 2003. to maybe 2006. then i ended up turning it into a novel in 2012. that was around the time you read it. you know, you were so great to

look it over and all of that. it took a couple of years to refining it before i was able to get it out there market so to speak. >> tucker: why did you write a screen play and then a novel? >> i wanted to make at it movie. the book in this context now is cinematic. i went to film school and my original idea was to make a mauve we have and write myself in like quentin tarantino would do. i wrote a screen play and i couldn't get anybody to look at it. i didn't want to give up so i had an idea maybe it's easier to turn it in a novel to get it published that way. in 2012 i turned it into a novel and took a few years and i got it out this way and brand spanking new novel. "blood in the streets." >> tucker: amazing. set where? >> new haven, connecticut, where i was born and raised in the 1970s. homage to the '70s gritty cop films. fiction but historical context in new haven in the 1970s. >> tucker: interesting. this is one of those books that has only been read inside

fox news. i keep getting text and e-mails. have you read the book? it's great! >> thank you. >> tucker: people outside the channel read it. what is the reaction? >> people close to me have and they message me they like it. maybe they are just being nice. it's so weird because i have been with the material so long in my head that it's now surreal. i never envisioned it getting out there and people will have a reaction to it and come up and ask or question me about it. so it's kind of, you know, it's almost -- i'm taken aback that people are

>> tucker: this is a fox news alert, certainly surprising. a federal judge in texas has just struck down obamacare -- true story. judge reed o'connor says the individual mandate is unconstitutional and because it cannot be separated from the rest of the law, the entire law is invalid. the individual mandate you will remember was previously upheld by the supreme court but on the grounds that it was a tax. the fine for not following the mandate was last year, it's no longer a tax. the ruling will certainly be appealed. obamacare was passed on march 21st 2010, signed three days later.

wow. that's it for tonight and for the week, it went fast like all good things. we'll be back monday at 8:00, the show that the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and groupthink. jason chaffetz in for sean right now. ♪ >> jason: welcome to this special edition of "hannity," trump versus the establishment. i'm jason chaffetz in tonight for sean. lots of breaking news tonight, president trump naming mick mulvaney as his new chief of staff and special counsel robert mueller stain release documents in the michael flynn case. joining is now is kristin fishe kristin fisher. >> what you are just