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left this evening. the christmas season is here. if you are looking for the perfect gift to give to the political junky to your life, may i suggest my book. my thanks to sean hannity for allowing me to sit in this seat. have a wonderful weekend. "the ingraham angle" is up next. >> laura: this is a very busy news night tonight from washington. we begin with the curious case of michael cohen. and a meeting with the case of horrific amnesia. he sat down for an interview with his new best bud former bill clinton senior adviser george sntephanopoulos and offered this christmas hope. >> the country has never been
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more divisive and one of the hopes i have out of the punishment that i've received as well as the cooperation that i have given, i will be remembered in history as helping to bring this country back together. >> wants to make amends and doesn't know how he is going to do it. >> is that why he is talking right now? >> that's part of it. and he's in a lot of pain. >> laura: all of cohen's motives are patriotic. he is doing it for america and our children and grandchildren. nothing because he wants his jail time shaved off in exchange for cooperation. >> if they want me i'm here and willing to answer whatever additional questions they have for me. >> you're saying there are certain areas you can't get into because you are cooperating with them? >> correct. >> laura: did he lay it on thick? he's kind of a new man. he feels liberated.
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i like the turtleneck, too. it was an andy williams christmas special effect to it all. he wants you to know that trump is bad but his heart is pure as the driven snow and at times he seemed to harken back to the days of old. >> there was a lot of fun going on at the trump organization. >> when did it change? >> i can't give you a specific time that it went from point "a" to point "b." it was just a change. i will tell you that the gentleman that is sitting now in the oval office, 1600 pennsylvania avenue is not the donald trump that i remember from trump tower. he's a very different individual. >> laura: queue barbara streisand "the way we were." no one in the presidency understands it until he gets behind the desk in the oval office. the difference with this
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president is before he was sworn in, the d.o.j. and the fbi was already scheming to remove him from office using a phony dossier paid for by hillary clinton, deploying their friends in the media to cement a narrative that trump was basically spooning with putin before, during, and after the campaign. i was watching to this morning. and at some point he bizarrely after painting this picture of the president as a hopeless liar, cohen went on to say this. >> a lot of people will be watching who are going to be thinking but wait a second, he lied for so long why should we believe him for so long? >> what do you mean lied? lied about what? at the trump organization, what did we lie about? it's new york real estate. it's the greatest product ever created. is that a lie? >> laura: i'm confused. trump is a hopeless liar or
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didn't lie? the most remarkable thing about the interview is that the idea that the media, they now see cohen as some type of an honest broker. a lot different from the way they viewed him during the campai campaign days. >> he shouldn't be a lawyer. you don't go to law school to act like a thug. >> michael cohen, the goon that he is, he has to get rid of the goons. michael cohen does him no favors. >> this guy is a thug with a law degree and a billionaire boss. >> a group of scum bags like michael cohen sitting around in cahoots with each other. >> laura: nice to see the word scum bag used with the american flag behind him. cohen will report to jail on march 6th. so expect three more months of i'm a changed man narrative and i'm so sorry sob story.
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i can't wait to see where he ends up next. i'm sure he would be great in the kitchen. joining me now is alan dershowitz and kim strassle. michael cohen goes from this thug, fixer, goon, as they called him, to now a media darling. i was watching the round table at "good morning america." they were empathizing with him. it was so beautiful for him to come forward and unburden himself to george stephanopoulos. how credible are the sob stories? >> well, i've had about 250 criminal defendants that i represented and many of them after they're caught have gone on this redemption tour or redemption campaign. frankly i think they persuade
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themselves that they meaned. they persuade their family and they want to mean it. no one wants to be a phony. i suspect deep in his heart, cohen thinks he's a changed man. if he got out of jail would anyone really hire him to teach ethics somewhere? i doubt that very much. but i'm sure he has mixed motives. he wants to appear to his friends and peers and families to have seen evil and redemption and he also obviously has a secondary purpose, a secondary gain of trying to get a reduction of sentence which i think is unlikely to happen. >> laura: if he was going to get a sentence reduced it would seem that it's an odd thing. he says in the interview he's willing to cooperate and talk to anyone at any time. he made that point this morning with stephanopoulos. it would seem with all the
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sitdowns he's had that would have been unpacked by now. >> that's the really interesting point here, laura. one of the reasons he got three years in jail is because at least the southern district of new york was not very complementary of him in that filing they made with the court. they said he had not been cooperative. the special counsel's filing was a little bit more generous. but you know, that brings us to the question of him as a potential witness which is something he discussed with stephanopoulos against any proceeding that might be brought up against president trump in terms of the campaign finance violations that people are talking about given that even the southern district didn't view him as a credible, trust worthy, helpful person. how good of a witness in such a case would he make? >> laura: a terrible witness. you and i put him on the stand,
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not hard to get him to wet his pants. sorry. he's not a hard guy to cross examine. i have to ask about this fcc issue. a two-term fec commissioner has written a compelling piece for fox news about how these types of hush money payoff aren't criminal violations under the fec rules. and that -- they twisted his arm to plead guilty and to throw in all the stuff about the directions -- influence the election, so forth. but in this case he says -- this kind of payment would not be under the facts that have been put out there so far, would not be a crime. allen have you looked into that? >> i agree. i have looked into it. first of all when you get somebody like cohen as judge
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ellis put it, not only do they sometimes sing, they sometimes compose. they try to make the story a little bit better. and the idea that he may have told trump that what he was doing was wrong or illegal, let's be very clear, the laws are very complicated but one thing that is simple any candidate with contribute as much as he wants to his campaign for any purpose. a candidate can go to the bank and take out $150,000 in cash and bring it to a woman and say i'm giving this to you as hush money so you won't talk or destroy my campaign. that would not be a violation of the law. there are ways it could become a violation of the law if corporate continue bugs were involved or campaign or failure to report but the reporting requirements are after the election. so essentially, no harm, no foul. the american public are missing
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the point. where is the crime. where is the statute that makes this a crime? >> laura: you haven't heard the other case. i mean, when you're in court you can argue the point. john edwards did that, obviously. and pointed that out. he cited the edwards case as a particularly relevant in this matter. i want to move on to other big stories tonight. the new michael flynn document that dropped a few hours ago. tuesday night flynn's attorneys felt he had been duped by government lawyers and further he was told he didn't need legal representation in the interview with the fbi agents in january of 2017 and he responded in part today writing the agents did not provide general flynn with a warning of the penalties for making a false statement under 18 usd 2001. prior to the fbi's interview of general flynn mr. mccabe and
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other fbi officials decided that the agents would not warn flynn because they wanted him to be relaxed and they were concerned that giving the warning might adversely affect the rapport and the lack of counsel did not make flynn lie and he should have known better. kimberly you wrote in the journal that what happened to flynn was akin to entrapment. is there anything in today's document, interesting redactions we'll get to. is there anything that you saw today that changes your thinking or solidifies it? >> it's an unpersuasive document, laura. one thing that struck me is how defensive it sounded. we're used to the special counsel filings where they hold all the cards. this one went out of the way to point out that michael flynn lied to the press. hopefully that's not a crime. most of washington would be in jail.
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it goes through he should have known better. none of this changes the fact, laura, the way they set this up and jim comey essentially admitted it, they set it up on a casual basis, let's have a chat. there was no question that flynn believed he was going to sit down and go through questions when they were conducting a formal interview and they didn't go through the standard procedures of a formal interview. >> laura: and the question is why. i want to -- alan, this is in the government filing that just dropped, responding to the question that the agents not thinking that flynn lied. they had the impression at the time that the defendant was not lying or did not think he was lying. those misimpressions do not change the fact that the defendant has admitted that he
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was lying and knowingly made false statements in a national security investigation. those false statements were material, et cetera. that's very cute but the fact is they were twisting the arm of flynn and threatening, probably, his son, to get him to say, i lied. but the agents themselves did not think he lied, period. >> look, on day one when the charges were levelled against them i came on this channel and said he was not guilty and he should fight this and i think he would win on a number of grounds. did flynn do the right thing? no, he shouldn't have lied. you don't lie to the vice president. you don't lie to the press. you don't lie to the fbi agent. but the fbi asked him questions they knew the answers to. they weren't trying to get information from him they were trying to give him an opportunity to lie.
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that was the purpose. comey basically says that. they send in agents like struyk and they gave him the hymn an opportunity to lie. he shouldn't have done it but that's not the way the fbi should operate and they should never discourage anyone from bringing a lawyer. i have never had a client sit down with the fbi. i've never had a client testify. they're not here to help you. they pretend they're friendly. but they're there to trap you. it's his own fault he felt into the trap. but do we want our government officials to behave this way? >> laura: no. they're on the hunt. they're on the hunt. and, guys, one more question i want to ask. why redacting the agent's name who interviewed flynn with peter struyk, what would be the reason for redacting the agent's name? >> it's unclear and his name is
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generally out there. and i've heard people confirm it. they're filing it under we don't put the names willy-nilly of agents out there. >> laura: it's kind of important, don't you think. we want to know who started this ball rolling with the investigation. we want to know -- who is in between all the commas. who are these people who advised this to go forward the way it did. comey, mccabe and all the people leaking to the media. >> we know the strategy. >> they don't want him to get called in to talk further. >> laura: alan. >> congress can get his name if they want it. but the strategy was simple. let's trap as many people as we can into committing perjury and we'll squeeze them to testify against trump. a special counsel is appointed to uncover crimes that already occurred. in this case all of these
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happened after he became special counsel and they use those crimes not because they are interested in flynn or manafort but they want to squeeze him and that raises fundamental questions of civil liberties. >> laura: great to see both of you. i want to turn to the double standard that president trump is facing, this time it's inauguration funding. again, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze. this practice has never fallen under such scrutiny. but this supposed latest block buster gives liberals the narrative that the walls are closing in. here's something you might not know. in 2013 special interests contributed 40%. that's almost half of the funds for obama's second inauguration. here with reaction are ari fleisher and former economic adviser to his 2012 campaign and
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someone who donated money to the 2012 for barack obama. is this scrutiny warranted or is this a clear cut case of a double standard here? >> well, on the surface, it seems to be a double standard. the investigation of hillary was never a real investigation of her and we have had numerous investigations of donald trump. and that is troubling. i don't like to draw conclusions like that about justice because i was raised to believe that justice is blind and must be blind. but we haven't heard from justice about this. these were leaks about an investigation. it is not yet confirmed and the focus is on foreign continue bugs and strawmen who donated. that is a different matter but i haven't seen any evidence that anyone in trump world did anything wrong. >> laura: you were a donor to
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president obama and i think the campaign finance laws rare unconstitutional. but anybody should be able to give whatever. so i have no problem you are a big donor to obama. obama swore off special interests in the first inauguration but took corporate money, lobbyist money, teacher union money came to the campaign and came to the inauguration. what's the difference here? >> we should take a step back. i think your premise is inaccurate on a double standard. otherwise that george w. bush took from the same people. the whole idea was were there foreign interests that gave, which is illegal. and obama didn't have an obama hotel. there's a lot of scrutiny. if you want to go back on where corporate interest started.
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in 2005 in the inauguration, obama took from the same people that george w. bush took. i don't think it's corporate but were there any laws broken? i'm not saying there were. >> laura: hillary clinton's foundation, bill and hillary clinton foundation received money from saudi arabia, kuwait, qatar, ahman, algeria, and suddenly all that money starts drying up when mrs. clinton is no longer secretary of state and no longer clearly going to be president of the united states. all that money went away. do you think it was donated to get access and can you imagine donors get access in the obama world or all the people going to these parties. they're not getting access. welcome to washington. >> i can't imagine why people
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don't want to continue to get access to mrs. clinton. i guess she's not running for anything anymore. of course, laura. but the point about the hotel. one of the things that is unusual about donald trump to his credit, he's a businessman. he came from the hotel industry. all the laws and rules are set up to make it easy for career politicians to stay in government and you never had a conflict because you never own anything in the real world. so what that people are staying at his hotel. he's not making the profits from it. he's divorced from the company as the president. but so what if they are making money from it. i want people from the private sector to be able to run for office. >> let me respond. i'm all for capitalism.
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i ran a bank in 49 states and we gave to the rnc. we gave to the dnc. so i have no problem with donald trump doing amazingly well. ubs, you know, did business with donald trump. we're talking about today and we're talking about did the inauguration committee do something illegal or not? >> there's nothing wrong with him spending money at his hotel. >> am i saying anything is wrong with that? i'm saying that's what they're look at. >> laura: you raised it many times. >> it was on the front page of two newspapers. >> laura: the inaugural committee itself, they never heard of any investigation. and suddenly this is leaking out of the southern district of new york. that is the most leaky federal prosecutor office in the country. >> they are outside my office
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for five years. i'm with you. >> laura: stephanie's company made a lot of money off that inauguration. thanks so much. up next the goalish manner in which the democrats and the media are using a tragic death to manipulate. ♪ you think you've seen everything? ♪ let's talk about that when you get here.
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>> laura: the tragedy of a 7-year-old guatemalan child who dies in border custody has led to some disgusting politics. the girl and her father had been in custody for eight hours when she started having seizures. medical personnel fought to save her life but were unable to. during her trek to the border she had not eaten or had any water for several days. >> this is part of the insensitivity to migrants and people seeking asylum on the part of this administration. >> when you take 7-years-old walking across the desert you don't check them? you don't give a damn. that's what this shows. >> laura: we don't give a damn? all right. america spreads humanitarian aid
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all over the world but we're not the world's police and not the world's hospital. we are doing what we can in incredibly different circumstances created by politicians. here to respond is hector garza and gan immigration attorney. what are the normal procedures and what do the border agents need to do when families cross into the united states? we've had record numbers of family units cross our southern border in different sectors because they know they will come in and be released after a certain number of days. what is the procedure? >> for of all, as agents we are sick and tired of being blamed for these tragedies. the people who should be blamed are the drug cartels who are organizing the events. not our agents and not president
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trump. our agents are doing an amazing job to care for these people. we have specialized policies with how we treat juveniles. every time they come into our custody we have medical staff that will conduct an evaluation on those juveniles to make sure they are okay to continue through the process. we feed them and give them water and blankets and if they are part of a family unit they will stay together. >> laura: there are apparently eight hours, where dhs isn't telling anybody what happened to this little girl and what happened -- her and her father. we don't know, i guess. >> and in this specific case it's under investigation but we do know from cbp is they were art of a group of 163 aliens that came into the country illegally. now this is a very remote part of the desert on the u.s./mexico
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border in new mexico. put yourself in the agent's shoes when they are patrolling the border and all of a sudden they come up on 163 aliens. and unfortunately this parent, this father that brought his child with him is also responsibility just like the cartels and politicians. >> laura: if an american citizen or illegal immigrant had withheld food or water from his or her child for several days and took him or her across the country and didn't feed or give water they would be in jail. >> they would be charged with negligence of a child. that's not what happened here. these are children running for their lives and -- >> laura: the father has no responsibility. >> he has a responsibility to protect his child. >> laura: for several days they didn't eat or drink. you are bringing your child into
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an extremely dangerous situation with cartels and human traffickers. >> to save them. >> laura: it's a hard call for americans watching this saying blaming the border patrol agents who wanted more funding and more help from the politicians. >> we're not blaming the border patrol agents. we're blaming the system that was create where had they don't have enough resources to help the people. it is 57-year-old who came in with clear signs of exhaustion and not having eaten or drinking any water. and this happened under i.c.e. custody before. several people have come there with medical conditions and died. >> laura: so it's the american people's responsibility, the american taxpayers' responsibility when a parent decides to cross the border illegally, come into the united states with a child across a very difficult terrain, it's the american taxpayers' responsible
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to pay for medical care and interpreters and lawyers and a process and housing. that's what they're doing. >> if we are going -- as an american organization -- a government agency say come to me, yooem goii'm going to proce immigration and take your 7-year-old child, yes. if they commit something of a negligence or disregard of her medical condition then yes. >> laura: i think we need to find that out. i want to know what happened in those eight hours. but for nadler to come out and say this is on the hands of the border patrol agents. a lot of americans -- this is part of 163 people. that's not one person wandering lost. this is a mass of humanity crossing the border at the same time. how many agents were there? a dozen agents.
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this is a lot of people at one time. >> that is the point. not enough people. >> laura: and an orchestrated attempt by individuals and organizers of the caravans and other groups of people who have a financial incentive to give people hope that this is going to be a good trek for them. they're given false hope. >> but it's happening. and president trump should allow the government agency to provide enough people to fix the problem and not continue the problem. >> where are the democrats on this? you have been asking for more funding and the means to handle these situation and for asylum reform which has to be put in place so children are not put in this horrific situation where they are dragged across the desert or having to be dealing with drug cartel or be taken by human traffickers.
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>> these politicians that are failing to do their job in congress are encouraging illegal immigration. he is supporting infrastructure and manpower. but some politicians are not giving us the funding that we need to stop the illegal immigration and the horrific conditions. there is a legal way to do this, that's going through the port of entry and that's my message. how come we are not blaming the drug cartels? they are the ones who dictate where the people are crossing. as a matter of fact, i think the drug cartels should be designated as terrorist organizations by trump. >> laura: a lot of people are trying to give people false hope this is all going to work out well for them. and the politicians, i have no words for them. i think dhs has to be forth coming about the time line here.
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but blaming the border patrol, i don't remember any press conferences that nadler has done for victims of crimes of the cartels in the united states. it was a great conversation, guys. and political losers hit the president on the way out the door. a new orleans christmas special and inspiring moment from a national airport. we can use some inspiration. all that in friday follies next. .
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end. mulvaney served in congress before joining the administration and reacted by saying his appointment a tremendous honor. a texas judge on friday ruling the affordable care act unconstitutional. the judge sided with an argument put forth by 20 republican states. they say the act could no longer stand since there is no penalty for americans who don't buy insurance. despite the ruling there will be no ruling for those who have coverage or need a plan for the new year. i'm robert gray, now back to "the ingraham angle." >> laura: it's friday and that means it's time for friday follies. senatorial losers taking shots at president trump out ton way out the door. and a touching moment at a nashville airport. joining us raymond arroyo. you would think your last
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moments of service to the nation would be gracious. i would think george washington's farewell address. how are the characters on capitol hill leaving us? >> they chose a more petty path. let's start with arizona senator jeff flake. >> my colleagues, to say our politics is not healthy is somewhat of an understatement. i believe that we all know well that this is not a normal time and that the threats to our democracy from within and without are real. and none of us can say with confidence how the situation we now find ourselves in will turn out. >> laura: thank god the establishment is getting a kick in the stomach after the rise of china and open borders. don't let the doorknob hit you. >> the infreens is that trump is
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a problem to the democrats. they did exit polls at the last -- in the arizona election in november. 26% favorable rating, he had. jeff flake. so he's on the rise. >> laura: they have been doing the elevation tour. they -- and then there were bob corker. the president meanly referred to him as lil bob. >> when the president refers to you by a mean nickname. >> bob corker couldn't resist this sideswipe. >> i think whether the president hurts himself and our country is unnecessary. it's an unforced error. the unorthodox nature of the trump presidency has caused
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people to be closer on each side of the aisle in some ways. still vast differences in policies. >> what makes them closer? >> everybody's in the same boat, right? >> laura: trump is letting the usmeras come in and see how the sausage is made. he made hundreds of millions of dollars in construction. a smart businessman? he went on to say that he likes the judges, the economy. at the end -- he doesn't like his style? >> everybody got in the boat just not his boat. and the prevailing winds of the party, it was a populous win. his people abandoned him. in the last polling he slid into the 30s and lower among republicans. that's why he couldn't run again. everyone we are showing you have lost or walked away from their seat.
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>> laura: corker wanted to be secretary of state. there was a momentary flirtation with that. it's the girl who never got picked for the prom. >> and claire mccaskill on msnbc on how senators view the president in the cloak room. >> nuts, weak, doesn't really understand government, doesn't care to understand anything complicated, asks and says the most unbelievable things in meetings that clearly shows he doesn't understand the subject matter. no intellectual curiosity. >> claire, you had a chance to vote for carkavanaugh and that'
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what hurt you. it can get overheated but this obsession with the style, you notice there's very little substantive credit similar, very little. >> the arrival of trump for some many of these middle of the road people to choose a side and they were shoved out in these states that have swung red. >> they are delighting in this. raymond, you have produced and hosted a christmas season for pbs called "christmas time in new orleans." what is it? >> it's a cd which is released with jazz classics on it. it's a love letter to my hometown. it celebrates the people, the food, the traditions and the music that has held us together for 300 years and christmas time is the forfect time to look at the people and the cuisine.
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some of the best chefs in the city and the nola players, it has members of the marcelas family in it. at this time when we are so divided it's important to see a place where the spanish, the africans, the germans, came together and created something that lasts. >> laura: it's the tradition that involves the people, the food and the places. >> and the music. >> laura: i don't know. it's a comforting thing. i get why all of you -- >> why we go back to the motherland. >> laura: i understand it now. >> this is a bit of the nola players. >> no other city ever in the history of this world has seven distinct nations coming to together to create the mixtures, the creoles of new orleans.
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>> laura: and now a viral video situation? >> and this happened earlier in the week to travellers in nashville's airport. they came together to sing the national anthem to honor the children of fallen servicemen and women. look to a little bit of this. the important thing about this. this was as children were boarding flights. the gary sinise foundation flies 1700 gold star children and their parents to disney world. i think it's the most important feature of the year and one of the most moving. puts it all in perspective when you see the families left behind by our servicemen and women and how they carry on. >> laura: and look at some of the clips of them at disney world. raymond was -- with tears in his eyes. he was there at disney world and
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he couldn't go on space mountain. you were upset about the children, were you? no, raymond was moved by that. we're going to see the whole thing. >> it's all next week. >> laura: gary sinise is awesome. >> a hero. it's a provocative question but worth asking. is anti-white sentiment the new normal in the democratic party? we're going to debate that with the head of the washington chapter of the naacp and pastor aubrey shine. no rhymes. skivvies. gadgets or skivvies? boxed set? perfect! nobody knows young readers like we do... barnes & noble
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another white male. i'm suspect of this year going into a democratic primary with women doing well, i'm not sure it's the time to dominate a white man. >> is it time to have someone of color and a woman but as a white guy, are you trying to calculate whether or not this is the right time for you? >> laura: there's a reason the media continually asks this question. it's a mineset that seems so have been encouraged by the main stream of the democratic party, the idea that a candidate might face scrutiny because he or she
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is white. why are we talking about race? i thought we were supposed to get away from judging people by their skin color. this is the string of stories we have put together to talk about this reality. whether it's the women's march or the no whites allowed vacation spots that we reported on earlier this week. how is any of this acceptable? here to debate it hillary shelton and aubrey shine of glory to glory ministries. maybe i'm naive here. but there has been so much progress made at every level of society, business, entertainment, sports, politics, a two-term african-american president. why is the democratic party
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saying if we nominate a white person that might be problematic. >> i would argue it differently. as we're looking at the challenges and problems in our society there's a racial definition around those issues as well. employment, it was great for president trump in this particular case to talk about how the african-americans have the lowest unemployment rates since the data has been collected. but the lowest unemployment rate is still three times higher than our white counter parts. looking at the data -- >> laura: you're saying there has not been any progress. >> we have gone from slavery to being citizens of the country. >> laura: i'm -- i want to make sure that our audience understands. you discount improvement in the economy for african-americans? >> don't discount it. we recognize it's there but we
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have not reached a point of parity. >> laura: you mean equal opportunity? >> and equal outcomes. >> laura: unless you have a proportional representation on corporate boards? >> it's not parity. we want to make sure the voices are there. corporate boards and getting into colleges and universities and owning homes. >> laura: i mean, i'm paraphrasing but it's kind of anti-white male or white female candidate mentality in the democrat party? >> i would disagree with that. if you look at the voting patterns of -- >> laura: i'm talking about the way they were talking in the sound bites. pastor, you know what i'm talking about. if you're a white person you are immediately suspect. the blacks only vacation spots that we featured earlier this
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week. i don't get that. the best person should win. and opportunity zones and that gets thrown off to the side. he's a racist because he is doing all these good things to help underprivileged areas. >> mr. shelton has left out a point. it has been the democratic party that has identified people of color by color. this is why this is the party that gave you slavery and the kkk, et cetera. when i hear mr. shelton expound the false narratives, they overlook the facts when i hear about this alleged disparaphernaliasdi -- if eight out of ten black kids are not being raised by their fathers, they're going to end up in jail. those are facts. when you have those facts you
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aren't going to have kids going to high school or college and they cannot debate and they cannot find themselves in party with their counter parts. put the dad in the home and there is no difference in the employ issue at this moment. >> when we have you both back we're doing an hour on this topic, just the racial topic in the new year. but i'm telling you the rhetoric that we're hearing from some, not all in the democratic party about the type of candidate we have to see, not on the basis of ideas but just on skin color that's a problem. i think it's pad for the country. it should be based on the content of your character. >> absolutely. so regardless of race, gender, point of national origin, if we look at the outcomes and the kind of things they stand for
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>> laura: it's time time for the last bite. michelle obama isn't above cutting a rug especially if it is with sandra. watch. >> stand up with mrs. obama. right now. rub it down. >> we love to see how he stacks up against another former first lady. we are launching our own reality show, dancing with the democrats. take a look at our first face-off. i'm going to go with the guy in
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the front. got to hand it to -- michelle obama wins it. i that is my view but i don't want to taint the process of the pool of answers. send us your pick, hillary or michelle? that is all the time we have. shannon bream and the fox news at 19, take it from here, everybody have a great weekend. >> fox news alert, late friday, the white house is as busy as ever, major moves on chief of staff, investigations and obamacare. we will tell you, donald trump's for effexor, michael:doubling down on claims the president directed him to pay husband 2 women, that he knew what he
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