bring down donald j. trump and i will be back tomorrow night filling in for sean. you haven't had your dan bongino fix, tuning again tomorrow night. really appreciate. thanks much. see baltimore. >> laura: nice job, dan. i'm laura ingraham and this "the ingraham angle" from washington. in moments we will be joined by joe digenova, commerce men jim jordan to discuss renegade judges, shocking revelation inside the gym comey testimony and boy, do we have a lot more. also tonight, i thought the left wanted us out a foreign entitlements. we will tell you why trump's decision to bring some of our troops home has official washington up in arms. michelle obama spoke to her has turned into a petty war against the trump family? her comments later on in the show. and since it's christmas, we have something very important for you. raymond arroyo takes us behind the scenes of a special holiday journey of joy and remembrance.

for hundreds of gold star families. he speaks to the catalyst behind it all, actor gary sinise. stay tuned for that incredibly moving report. it's going to bring tears to your eyes. it did when i first thought. first, black robe resistance. that's the focus of tonight's angle. if you are like most americans, you grew up with a special sense of reverence for judges. watching films or reading books, regular folks have seen countless portrayals of judges as consummate professionals who set their own personal opinions aside and objectively weigh the merits of each case. >> since there has been no previous violation of the statute, there's no precedent to guide the bench passing sentence. >> the witness will address this court as judge or your honor. i'm quite certain.

>> since the united states government declares this man to be santa claus, this court will not dispute it. case dismissed. >> laura: i get goose bumps every time. of course then there's the real world for certain judges act more like political pundits than impartial arbiters. case in point, yesterday sentencing hearing a former top national security advisor michael flynn. judge emmet sullivan, most recently a clinton appointee, moved his moment in the spotlight to castigate flynn with incendiary charges that weren't even brought by the special counsel. at one point, he told the decorated lieutenant general arguably you sold your country out. then he cited signs failure to register as a foreign agent and the judge actually use the word treason but with clever phrasing. he told the court "i wasn't suggesting that he was committing treason. i was just curious if he could

have been charged. lots of conspiracy theories out there." since when do judges start invoking conspiracy theories as grounds for imposing additional jail time or any jail time for defendant? the special counsel actually recommended no jail time. nevertheless, judge sullivan warned flynn that even if he cooperated further with the special counsel, he could still serve time. >> this has to be one of the most dramatic hearings that i've ever witnessed, and i've been here in washington nearly 20 years. >> laura: it only got worse, by the way. naturally, liberal pundits were quick to cheer their honorable comrade in arms activism. >> i will tell you this for today a judge in washington, d.c., stood up for our country. he spanked everybody in washington. >> whatever temperament the

judge would like to exhibit in the court. >> none of them understood the basic moral outrage judge sullivan is going to bring the proceedings. >> i think today was a really good day for the justice system and that this charge really did his job. >> laura: totally. sure, they love the theatrics because he's part of the resistance. today he might have earned himself a full time cnn contributed his contact given the latest ruling. a pre-christmas permanent injunction, judge sullivan and believe it or not, i read all 107 tedious pages this afternoon. ruled that trump's tightening guideline for granting asylum is illegal. remember back when in june when jeff sessions announced these new asylum rules? >> asylum is available for those who leave their home country because of persecution or fear on account of race, religion, nationality or membership in a

particular social group or political opinion. asylum was never meant to alleviate all problems, even all serious problems, that people face every day all over the world. >> laura: common sense interpretation, no? the move was needed because asylum-seekers were abusing the system, aided by a lot of leftist ngos. migrants began parroting lines about gang violence and domestic violence to establish this expanded credible fear category because they didn't want to return to their homelands. judge sullivan's opinion today, it's back to business as usual. trump the way it used to be. the judge not only by the way demands the administration reversed to the old rules of asylum entry but further he instructed that the government returned to the united states the plaintiffs were unlawfully deported and to provide them with new credible fear determinations consistent with the immigration laws.

would you like a mint on your pillow too? in other words, all those deported have to be brought back for new asylum hearings. now, i guess they can stay at sullivan's house as they await trial. who knows. but from haves activist judicial high horse, sullivan apparently isn't bothered by the growing backlog of 800,000 now immigration court cases. 30% of those involved asylum requests. that's more than triple the number from 2009. we have been talking about the scourge of unelected judges substantively their own policy preferences for those of the american people's representatives since this joe started back in october of last year. the president ultimately won on his travel ban at the supreme court but for every issue from transgender people serving the military to climate change to the 2020 senses to the keystone pipeline, these activist judges have waged an assault on trump's agenda and

they have exceeded their constitutional authority in almost every instance. we are reminded of how important it is that trump gets his judicial nominees confirmed as quickly as possible. mitch mcconnell has done a pretty good job, but we need this done faster, more expeditiously. like yesterday, and if this means staying in session for an extra few days he every month or it may be even into the christmas holiday, guess what, the country depends on it. the constitution depends on it. shame on congress for not doing its job in the first place and passing urgently needed asylum reform at any point in the last two years. they have the house. and the senate. they should have addressed this issue. they should have done a lot on immigration, including funding for the wall. they didn't. shame on them. shame on these judicial activists. that's the angle. all right, joining me now with the reaction is digenova, former u.s. attorney and ohio cumbersome and jim jordan and al

motor, attorney and democratic strategist. joe, what we do about these activist judges question what they are fighting trump tooth and nail. let's talk about judge emmet sullivan. this was a 107 opinion. i practice a little immigration law back in the day my old law firm so i know it fairly well. >> we have a rule. if it takes 107 pages to explain, it's probably wrong. it's pretty clear that the judge substituted his legislative and political judgment for that of the president of the united states. but what the president did here was a perfectly reasonable rewrite of obama's asylum rules they are subject to a presumption of regularity. the president's rules. he denied in that. more broadly, he used a weird standard. he said that the plaintiffs had a moral right to make certain arguments. that is ludicrous. that's juvenile.

that's first year law school nonsense. so when all is said and done, this is judicial anarchy. it's a shame, and after yesterday's performance. >> laura: that's a 1-2 punch. >> after yesterday's embarrassing performance by this judge, i must say one of the worst judicial performances i've ever seen in the courtroom. this coming after that is really a double whammy of embarrassment. >> laura: al, let's go to flynn for a moment. bringing up the word treason. this was not an issue for the special counsel. special counsel didn't use the word treason. an unelected judge on the district court in d.c. brought up the word treason. oh, i know it's a conspiracy theory. i'm going to warn you, if you keep cooperating, we can and jail time. what was that sentence of his? >> laura, your lawyer, i'm a lawyer. judges are obligated to tell defendants even if you cooperate you can still serve jail time. >> laura: that was right after the treason-not treason line.

>> maybe that's a little excessive but the point is he might still serve jail time and there's nothing biased about that. we need to start bringing down our legitimate institutions like the judiciary. >> laura: do you think judges are beyond criticism? we shouldn't criticize a judge. i see what we are seeing as a subversion of the american people's will. >> it's not the judges who are activists. it's activists going to the judges because as you point out, congress hasn't done its job. >> laura: jim jordan, it's true congress hasn't done its job on this particular issue. i think not finding the walls going to go down as one of the worst, worse things have happened to this administration. forget mueller. the wall, the wall, the wall. has to be built. it's a schedule has been built. we will get to that. on the judicial tyranny stopped, nationwide injunctions, we talked about before. when district court judge can rewrite national policy when obama is the one who rewrote it with his immigration appeals judge. >> it's wrong.

we should change the law. we have an amendment were going to have for tomorrow which would reform our asylum operating 5% of the folks who come to this country -- >> laura: an amendment for what? >> the spending bill. take it to the rules committee. two amendment. one is to build well. the others to reform our son-in-law's because if you want to address the care of an, which we been watching on hold for the last several month, the only way to do it, the only way to do it, build a border security wall, reform the asylum laws. 85% of the people who shove the border and claim asylum aren't legitimate asylum-seekers. what did this judge say? those were sent back or legitimate, you don't have to pay for them to come here. >> laura: bring them back from honduras. this is what rush limbaugh said today about this snow wall getting billed. >> that was what trump was going to do to get the wall built under the premise that the president can take whatever action necessary necessary, he deems necessary for national security. i know this looks like "read my lips, no new taxes" and caving

on it. >> laura: but he says he's going to figure out a way to get it done. joe digenova. >> is very sad. we needed the wall. the wall was a key issue. it's important. however walls are built, 95% of illegal crossings are cut out. it's an amazingly effective tool, and the notion that it has been made this devilish fiendish thing, oh, my goodness, a wall. perhaps they would prefer the tear gassing and perhaps bullets as opposed to a wall. the people who oppose the wall are inviting violence. they are inviting disruption. and they are inviting further illegal immigration to the united states. i hope that when this things run out in february, the president says that's it, no more. awol or i'm shutting it down. >> laura: all we do is kick it. the president said. they were doing this again. we are not doing omnibus.

paul ryan, what has he done, released a five part mini-series on his life in congress. did you see that? god bless him. he's a nice person. it was embarrassing, it was an embarrassing thing he did. >> fully once, shame on you. for me twice, shame on me. for the american people four times, shame on congress. that's what we've done. four times we promised them we would build the wall and put it on the spending bill never say no. pelosi is going to be speaker, it will never happen. >> laura: the republicans also can in good conscience say the democrats had the chance to work with the president on this and refused to do so. >> this is a bipartisan promise going on for decades. everyone wants compromise. you're going to have a situation where were moderate republicans lose like the 40 who lost in the last election. your constituents believe what you say. i don't that's what suburban voters believe.

>> laura: do you think suburban voters see this and say let's loosen asylum laws? three cheers for the judge? >> all voters are for scaredy but they also want -- >> laura: everyone who was subjected to gain violence, any gang violence, that's a lot of trunk of the world and messing violence, do make a credible claim and then you're in. is that it? he put that up to the american people, they will kill it every time. by the way, the senate passed a continuing resolution. get the champagne flutes. markets, futures going up. >> we are going to offer our amendments. we're not going to vote for and less the portable funding 5 billion is on the bill. >> laura: i want to move on to this telling exchange revealed in the former fbi director jim comey's testimony released yesterday. trey gowdy asked about remarks made by former president obama in october of 2015. >> you think it's not that big a deal? >> what i think is that it is

important for her to answer these questions to the satisfaction of the american public and they can make their own judgment. i can tell you that this is not a situation in which america's national security was endangered. >> laura: okay, so gaudi followed up, asking call me if u never spoke with president obama about the clinton email investigation to which the ex-fbi chief replied no. he said he never directed anyone at the bureau to do so either. joe, let me get this straight. comey's fbi never briefed president obama on an ongoing investigation about the democrats nominee. for the presidency. how could obama be so confident there was no national security risk? figure was interesting is what president obama did was command influenced by publicly telling the fbi and the department of justice if -- he told them the results he wanted. james comey delivered. he exonerated her illegally. she broke the law.

there isn't any question she broke the law. the president was communicating with her under a pseudonym to her private email account so what you saw was a lie. he knew she was using a private server. he knew it because he sent her emails using a pseudonym. do you know what? that's the kind of thing that makes people sick of politics. there is obama lying through his teeth and he knew that she had a private server. he knew there was classified information because when you communicate with the president, that is classified. automatically. a communication with the president of the united states. disgusting. command influence, right. he told the fbi what he wanted done. drop the case. >> laura: we can't criticize him because he showed up at a children's hospital with a vague, with a big, with a bag of gifts. if you keep thinking of him with the picture in the bag of gifts, that was nice. maybe the emails were in the bag. maybe that's where the emails

are. >> it wasn't the first time president obama did that. the irs investigation, he said there was no corruption, and even a smidgen. he did the exact same thing where when the investigation was going on, he's doing a big-time interview and he prejudges the outcome there as well. it's not the first time. >> i will agree he shouldn't have said publicly that way. there is a bit of command performance there but the bottom line is most americans know this. it wasn't as big a deal. call me exonerated her, not a legally, fairly. if anyone was hurt by jim comey was having clinton ten days before the election. there was no bias towards her. it was not for her. he was against her. >> laura: this is congressman jim ratcliffe on with martha about what went down. >> these turned out to be is every bit as duplicitous and sanctimonious his people told me he was. i don't mind if jim comey is a partisan but don't pretend to be a fair and impartial umpire saying that out of 1 side of your mouth while out of the

other side of your mouth, you're telling people to use their last breath to stop donald trump and republicans and to vote democra democrat. >> laura: john ratcliffe. for comey to have said, guys, that he deserves no blame and has no responsibility for the tarnished reputation of the fbi in the donald trump -- do donald trump signed the fisa warrant based on the dossier? >> comey is delusional. he's a dirty cop. he is smarmy. he is self-indulgent. he's a loon. i mean, it's a most like he doesn't see himself. you watch him and you see a man who is emotionally disturbed. he's one of the weirdest guys in history. he ruined the fbi. let's member he's a fired, disgraced fbi director. you can't say that about anybody else. it's amazing. what he did to the bureau's he destroyed federal law enforcement for a generation by usurping the functions of the attorney general.

and she apparently didn't care. >> laura: was there any point time in which he really thought that stupid dossier, that all these lurid charges were true? has he ever answer that question? was there any point time where he thought any of this might be true? they made it as lurid as possible in order to get everybody's attention. correct? that's how it went down. >> the first guy who wrote about it and the guy who was cited in the vice application said it was a false document just two days ago. >> laura: without, merry christmas everyone. coming up, are for democrats for endless war all over the globe? their reaction to an announcement by the president today about bacteria revealed their astonishing interventionist streak. stay there. >> our boys, our young women, are men, they are all coming back, and they are coming back now. we won. lege college of the ozarks gave me the chance to work for my degree

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>> we have been trying to rebuild the world and police the world. it's time to rebuild the united states and properly police the united states. that's what we are going to do. >> laura: promises made. perhaps the beginning of promises kept. on the international front, president trump making a surprise announcement today that he's going to pull american troops out of syria.

remember donald trump ran on a noninterventionist platform. just this past march, he signaled that this was what he wanted. >> by the way, we are knocking the hell out of isis. will be coming out of syria, light, very soon. let the other people take care of it very soon. very soon. very soon. >> laura: the bipartisan interventionist cabal in washington are still acting like we're in a post-9/11 mind-set. it's worth remembering obama ran against the iraq war as a repudiation of the bush doctrine, remember? so why are military and intel leaders who worked or supported obama saying this? >> this is very typical of the trump administration. policy by tweet. >> he looks for short-term wins, not the transformational approach of how do you make organizations better? how do you go for the long-term? >> you pull those advisors are, that sustainable security lapses and you have ungoverned spaces. >> we have essentially the president and almost start of a

rogue impulsive unilateral and frequently bad judgments. >> laura: joining me are two men on opposite sides. jim carrey final, retired army colonel and vice president of the heritage foundation and lieutenant colonel daniel davis, senior fellow at defense priorities. he received a bronze star for his service in afghanistan. you think this was a strategic error? what does america receive as far as a tangible benefit from remaining behind in syria? >> i don't know if we are on the opposite sides of this debate. i don't know what side he's on. i don't know what side -- >> laura: what are we doing here? it's live tv. i have known jim for a long time. >> i don't know what side i'm on. this is like somebody, someone said d-day, what do you think? what's the plan? are we going to protect our interests? we don't know any of that. i've never been for a permanent

base in syria. i've always thought that was stupid. that we should do what we need to do to protect our interests. when the president says were coming out, what i read is everyone's response is exactly what their politics where the second before he set it. there's no analysis of what is the president actually going to do? it's unfair this point about safe he's wrong. what lindsey graham said i think is completely responsible. i don't know. i don't know what's our plan to protect our u.s. interests? how are we coming out questionnaire we do have concerns. for example, we probably would like israel and iran to have a war. that probably do bad. we wouldn't want jordan and iraq to stabilize. >> laura: does that mean we always have to stay? no. i was never the guy who said the answer is -- >> laura: help me out here, every time we get into a situation in one of these places in the middle east, we are told if we pull out, chaos will ensue. >> right. >> laura: which means you can never bring muchly. you have to stay because it's a

situation that's very, it's kind of unstable. that's the nature of the game there. 17 years in afghanistan. 15 years in iraq. 15 years! obama was elected to get us out of iraq and trump was elected in part by being the anti-bush. >> the fact of the matter is the middle east was chaotic before we got there. it's chaotic today and it's going to be chaotic after we leave. >> laura: is worse. >> trump is made the middle east better, i would not argue that. >> laura: 9/11 two let's say 2008. isis comes. isis is born out of the instability in iraq. we are still having insider attacks. i hate calling them that. our men are being murdered in afghanistan. another american soldier, marine reservist, murdered in iraq or in afghanistan, excuse me. for what? >> and trump came in. >> our troops there do not keep

us safe over here. we have many ways to keep us safe here. >> laura: you would never leave. >> and trump came into office, i isis was still running in the middle east. there was over a million refugees in europe and none of that is happening due to trump. >> laura: that's the smart use of our military power, not were going to fix this here and jump over here. when we have the situation we were just talking about the border, but you both know a lot about the border chaos right now. people at home i think sit and watch and think wait a second. christians in syria have been brutalized during this period of the u.s. intervention. we can't even police our own borders and were trying to police the borders of these countries that have been at war with each other for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years? it's very confusing to people. >> to say i am pulling out. let's wait and see what his plan is. >> here's the thing. you have to keep in

consideration those troops were sent their number one by obama administration against the constitution because he did not get congressional authorization for them. he was using it initially undivided people many of which were against our own interests and even if you say the best of that, to get rid of isis in rock. the mission was accomplished in 2017. >> laura: we have the neoconservatives who don't realize that trump won and they have been good on some issues but they were up in arms in a lot of defense contractors probably weren't happy to do either. >> this decision by the president was against sound military advice. he did it himself which he has every right to do, but he needs to own it. >> a grave error that's going to have significant repercussions in the years and months to come. >> honestly this makes what obama did in iraq, it's replicating that but in many ways, it's even worse. i've never seen a decision like

this since i've been here in 12 years. >> laura: [laughs] okay, you guys are just kicking the can down the road. another cr devoted on tonight and you're saying it's the worst thing. 20 trillion in debt. how much money have we spent in iraq and afghanistan? >> 45 billion this year in afghanistan alone. trillions of dollars. >> laura: how much has china spent in iraq and afghanistan? >> a dollar $0.50, something like that. not much at all. >> laura: we are going here there and everywhere. money that does nothing for interest. we can keep ourselves safe. we don't need ground troops in syria because here's the thing. i can tell you from having served in afghanistan and iraq in similar missions like this, those small number of troops, the most things they do is actually defend themselves. they have very little ability to do anything even on the tactical level. and certainly nothing on a strategic level. our security will not be put in any threat by withdrawing those

troops because our security is not -- >> laura: 's eating syria to russia and assad. >> they already were there. >> they have been there before and they will be there afterwards. >> syria has been americans enemy in the middle east since forever. it's never bothered us. it's not about syria. it's about keeping the problems in syria for making everything worse. as long as the president is planning to do that, we should all be fine with it. >> laura: this is what national review wrote. the military intervention syria represents one of the most successful cost-effective military operations post 9/11 era. the minimal costa rican the caliphate has been reduced to rubble. russian and iranian nevisians in syria have been tracked. the u.s. is gained valuable territory leverage in negotiations for permanent peace. there's work left to be done. >> that's the one part i have issue with. it's where i completely disagre disagree. we need to help negotiate the political future of syria. we don't give a damn about the

political future of syria. we need to prevent them from becoming a bigger problem to us. if the president is planning to do that, we should support that. we should set with rer which is look at where he done with the last few years. he made the middle east about price. he's made syria less of a problem. >> laura: gets zero credit for that. adam kinzinger is really unhappy so we should change it. i'm sorry. period [laughs] the interventionist thing about us and part barack obama. i'm never going to forget that. guys, thank you so much. no one else will have a skull position on tv tonight. no one paired up next, something very special and important reminder of the cost of our freedoms were targeted. raymond arroyo takes us magazines of incredible holiday trip for gold star families called the snowball express. he's going to talk to the families and the man behind it all actor gary sinise. next. managing my type 2 diabetes wasn't my top priority.

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>> laura: the holidays can be

really difficult for those who've lost a loved one, especially the children of our fallen service members. fox news contributor raymond arroyo is here with me now for a lot more. >> laura, every year the gary smith foundation hosts a special trip that captures the spirit of christmas. last week, i joined these gold star families, gary, and the snowball express to disney world for an unforgettable five day experience. one that holds lessons for all americans. you may have seen this video that went viral last week. the nashville airport came to a standstill when travelers paused to sing the national anthem in the concourse. ♪ >> ♪ o say, does that ♪ star spangled ♪ banner yet wave >> they were honoring fallen servicemen and women. this year, as it has for the last 13, the snowball express sponsored by the gary gary smith

foundation and american airlines has taken more than 1,000 children of the fallen from 87 cities on a christmas trip filled with joy, family, and remembrance. their destination was disney world. >> every one of these children have lost a parent in military service. we want to focus on these kids. we want to bring them together in this healing environment and also allow them to have a lot of fun when they are doing it. >> it's been really fun. and i like how we got to go on all the right to disney world. because this is my first time at disney world. [cheers and applause] ♪ >> lot of gratitude. it was amazing at disney.

it was super special. >> stephanie collier, herself a war veteran, lost her husband to ptsd once he returned home. she had her three children joined the snowball express annually. >> they have to deal with a lot of a young age. she was only two months old when her father passed. it was hard. it's been a huge change. the smiling faces. >> for a moment, grave has been replaced with talk of a favorite ride. >> the ride we went on. the dinosaur ride. i love that. >> what's your favorite? >> melissa's husband died a month after their daughter was born. melissa sees this experience as an important one for her daughter and all the kids here. >> have fun and let go and have fun and enjoy themselves. which is really nice because they all have quite a burden emotionally to bear throughout life.

sorry. so i just think it's really special to give them this moment. >> holidays can be a rough time. >> it can be, especially when someone is always missing. >> there was one special area at the resort set aside to remember the absent dads and moms who brought them together. in between the fun and the mirth to be had, these families take a moment for remembrance. these 650 flags represent the men and women who have fallen in the line of duty or when they return home. these families take a moment in this room of remembrance to mourn them. >> when i walked in, i was speechless.

it's amazing when you look at these flags and you realize that it represents the parent of every child that is here. also that this is just a small bit because there are so many others. that have lost a family member, and it's just overwhelming. your speechless. it's very emotional. my daughter did not know her father. he was the first marine casualty after the start -- post 9/11. she was only eight months old when he died. just going through life without knowing your father, just hearing stories. but becoming a part of snowball, and makes you realize and it makes her realize there are a lot of children here without a father. you don't feel alone. >> the shared experience bonds these gold star kids and allows them to establish close ties.

>> it's been awesome experience for me. over the years, i don't get to act like how i do now due to the fact that people would make fun of me. >> what we take back with you to arizona? the gulf probably just spending a bunch of time with our family and friends. the best thing is just meeting new people and making new friends. >> they feel like they are not alone. children who lost parents. just to know there's so many of them that's going through the same thing that they are experiencing. at such a young age, you know, this helps them. >> i made a lot of friends and i think it's super special that they do this for us. i love it here. every year, we come. we make new more and more friends as we come. it's beautiful. >> these two girls met at the airport in california and stuck together for the entire five days. >> i just saw her at the airport

and she looked like she was my age. so i was like. >> i hear she was filling something out. >> she was doing college gaps. she is a senior like me. >> for us as moms, it gives us an opportunity to bond. it's a really good support system for us as well. >> this year, i met a new family. it's their first year. she didn't know much about things that will help her through her grief, and i helped her through this whole time. she's been with us this whole time, and her daughter. she told me, she told me that her daughter really hadn't talked about what has happened with her father with any other children. to come here and watch them hold hands and go through the park together, that's the stuff that you -- nobody else on the outside really gets to see. these kids who lost a dad, they don't see what they are feeling. this, being in the military,

life is hard and losing someone is very hard. >> every snowball express ends with a special concert by gary sinise and his lieutenant. this year was no exception. >> i want a rousing applause for gary sinise. gary sinise and the band to been playing for snowball express fay since 2007. eventually taking the entire program under the wing of his foundation. ♪ what do you think as you watch these families recreating and forgetting about their loss for a little bit i'm finding that camaraderie with one another? >> it's wonderful to see them smile. that's the whole thing for me.

just to make these kids happy. you let them know they are loved and appreciated. they get a lot of love and a lot of support, and it's emotional for them too because they are all thinking about the reason that they are here. that's why we do it in december. it is a tough time for children that have lost a parent. we show them that we are not forgetting. we remember. we don't forget. that can carry them into the next year with a new sense that hey, i'm important. what i'm going through is appreciated. it's not being forgotten. and that there are others. i'm not alone in what i'm going through. it's a beautiful event. i'm so proud that we can support it. [cheers and applause] >> laura: that's the best thing on television tonight.

great job on that. thank you for doing that. i was crying. makeup, makeup. speak with the gary sinise foundation should really be congratulated. this is an incredible gift. i did not ask like to hear the stories or witness this. >> laura: to see the children's eyes. every time i see one of these children in pain or a spouse in pain, i think of how we are so blessed to live in this country. i am also righteously angry at people who don't appreciate and to put on masks and insult marines in public or worse and don't appreciate all the wonderful things in our country. >> these families and these kids carrying on, these are heroes despite the loss. it's a heavy burden they carry. it's also a reminder of the high cost of our freedoms, laura, but i think we forget. i was surprised to learn from gary and the families there the high number of servicemen and women who are plagued by ptsd once they come home. the 20 members of our active and veteran members of the military commit suicide.

we need to stand with them particular this time of year, these families. god bless them. these kids were incredible. the gary sinise foundation. >> are there other celebrities who help him and do events? >> the members of his band but i don't see too many others lining up, and they should. >> laura: i wish i could play an instrument. [laughs] i would go. >> we can go on tour. >> laura: it would be nice. rihanna and all these people, they do stuff, they do terrible things. they have huge followings. it would be nice if they see other people may be occasionally gone help. fantastic. from the sublime to the utterly ridiculous. is michelle obama obsessed with the trumps? no. wait until you hear this.

>> laura: what was billed as a book tour has instead turned into a revenge tour? michelle obama once again sniping at the trump family, this time on jimmy fallon. here to debate is syndicated columnist michelle malkin and radio host and civil rights lawyer leo terrel. mrs. obama took two shots of the first family. let's start with her thoughts on what happened on january 20,

2017. >> this is after the trump inauguration waving from air force one. can you walk me through? >> bye, felicia. >> laura: boy, i wish i was that cool. michelle obama is really hip. malkin, can you remember a former first lady? it was a sniper. i've got to say i guess i'm not really that surprised about it. what about that? explain what bye, felicia -- for everyone watching who doesn't know it by, felicia means, tell the audience. >> it's an insult and clearly it is stark that is aimed at the incoming successors to the white house. i think particularly to melania trump. i'm not surprised. i called michelle obama obama's

bitter half. you know, the comments she made going all the way back to her princeton thesis about her worldview, it's just -- she's just exercising it all over again. she's back with a vengeance and saltier than ever. and showing none of those grace and class that passed first ladies have had in the kind of collegiality. >> laura: michelle, she gets along with george w. bush. they pass each other meds. they are buddies. the bushes in the obamas are buddies. >> sure, sure. after the bushes left office. it's much easier to show that kind of comity afterwards once they have ascended and transcended. there is something else going on here to. i diagnosed it several months ago, the particular hatred that the left has for melania trump.

this is an incredibly accomplished, polished woman. yes, they like to throw her past in her face when every leftist is always saying that we should be allowed to make mistakes and learn from them, et cetera, et cetera. this is a woman who speaks multiple languages, whose incredible mother. >> laura: leo, your reaction to that. bye, felicia. it's kind of a blowoff to say the least. i don't know. i don't picture you saying by, felicia, to anyone. that's not leo. i don't think so. >> thank you, laura. he said it correctly. it's a snipe. i listened to michelle. it's like the worst of all things, disaster, hatred, vengeance. if we used the trump standard of how he is constantly attacked the clintons, obama throughout the last -- if you look at his tweets. you look at his insults. michelle malkin is going to come

on your program and call this hatred, vengeance. especially if it spins off typically and talks about the left. we are taking by, felicia and i submit to you, laura, they look at all the trump insults. i will accept your reference. it's a snipe. she's on a comedy show, and entertainment show. if you listen to michelle, it's the end of the world. it's the worst thing ever said by a former first lady. shame on you, michelle. >> you are the one being hyperbolic, leo. you are being hyperbolic. i am putting it in the proper context. let's not compare michelle obama to donald trump. let's compare michelle obama to michelle obama, the woman who said when they, meaning us, conservatives, go low, we go high. what is high about by, felicia except for the hand wave? hi, buy, felicia. where is the going high? compared it to turn her own standards. >> shame on you, michelle. shame on you. >> you have no answer. >> laura: let's keep shame out

of it and go onto the next moment. there was another moment about what happened when melania, she received a gift from melania, kind of a departing gift to the first lady. note how dismissive the former first lady as of that kindness. >> that was a day. right before that, you know, i daughter's friends decided they needed a sleepover. for the last day. i was like him are you guys getting me a question mark we're leaving. you've got to take all your stuff. pick it up, the blankets on the bears. they were all crying. it was like, get out. we've got to go. there was that than the tiffany box. it was all a lot.

>> laura: the tiffany box. by the way, she would have to pay me a lot of 25-cent pieces, quarters, my kids. every time they say like, i make them give me a quarter. she would give me a lot of quarters. it's a fun show and she's having a good time. leo, was that a nasty dig about the gift in the tiffany's box? >> i will use your words, laura, little jab. a little jab. what is so dramatic about this? the character assassination by michelle of michelle obama. it's ridiculous. we are looking at these isolated incidents you aired and you look at the totality of the president and all his insults and were going to give him a pass? why the different treatment? >> laura: thank you so much. we are out of time. merry christmas. we will be right back. nto the sd vascepa. prescription vascepa. vascepa, along with diet and exercise, has proven results in multiple clinical trials.

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>> laura: i want to thank the incredible job on that editing and all of you on the snowball express, and tomorrow is my last

day on regular radio after 17.5 years. it's been quite a ride. i'm getting pretty emotional. on my last show, you're going to dr. mike pompeo. what does he do it again? he's the secretary of state. tune into the radio tomorrow, shannon bream, "fox news @ night." >> shannon: laura, congrats on all those years, fascinating discussions, i know you'll miss it, don't miss that part of those three hours every day of salsa. >> laura: thanks so much, shannon. >> shannon: welcome to "fox news @ night," i'm shannon bream, beginning with a fox news alert. breaking news for "the wall street journal," president trump i knew attorney general, penned a memo about a key aspect of the special -- so does the memo factor into the president's decision to pick bill barr? we have reaction tonight from inside the administration, alan dershowitz and mike