>> i have to tell you, having been such a fan for so many years of jeopardy and humiliated by you on high rollers, i love getting to know you and i really appreciate the time. thank you so much, alex. >> my pleasure. >> the objects people choose to keep in their home define who they are. this is "objectified" with jaclyn smith. >> my friend farrah fawcett says she gave me before she passed away. doesn't that look like her body? >> i'm harvey levin, this is the story of a small-town texas girl who transformed herself from a goody two shoes ballet dancer into one of the most popular angels in the universe. jaclyn smith lived a sheltered life growing up about her big break on "charlie's angels" put her way outside her comfort zone. >> would you consider yourselves a symbol?

>> no. >> no. >> you know people disagree with you. >> and the legendary role that would transformer into a hugely popular television star into a full-blown mobile. >> wanted to be a ballet dancer and all of a sudden you're making deals with kmart, where did you learn this? >> but the accolades mean nothing to her family at the daily struggle of dealing with the loss of her parents. >> i saw councilor and said is it normal that you quite as muc much? >> to find her storybook marriage. >> three marriages that didn't work out. i can do that for you if you'd like. >> i know you can. >> jaclyn smith, the angel turned business tycoon who proved beyond a shadow of a doubt she is more than just a pretty face. >> jaclyn varian >> harvey ! >> thank you so i much.

i'm very excited. >> i am too, it's surreal. >> do want to get started? let's do it. tell me what these are. >> these are christmas ornaments and maybe i was ten years old and my mother and i had a project every christmas and made every little snake went on here. we know how old they are, they are still on our tree. i have many more than what you are seeing here. so i'm very sentimental about christmas. very sentimental about myon famy and hear mom is continuing the christmas tree every year. >> so it's a tradition? >> it's a tradition. >> you've said that you had kind of a fairy tale upbringing. >> i did. >> i have never met anybody doing the show who has said anything close to that. >> wow. so i'm lucky. i have this beautiful childhood. i had the best of -- my parents, i couldn't imagine being anyone but their daughter.

and i knew i was a lucky girl from day one. and then i had this grandfather who came into the picture, my mother's father and it was just a simple childhood, such a sense of permanence and belonging and a safe place. >> when you were describing this to me and talking about how you did this with your mom you got a little choked up. >> yeah. i'm trying. i'm known sort of as a little bit of a crybaby but i try to be brave with you, harvey. i want to be brave. >> no. i actually think the opposite. i find it kind of touching that you still feel as strongly as you do. your mom was your best friend. >> my best friend. >> my best friend. >> i don't hear that a lot. >> and i say to myself and my

crazy? what made it so good? we were just one life and limb. >> you could say that somebody was mom's their best friend growing up is kind of clingy. >> you probably would say this girl never broke away. i talked to her 15 times a day when she wasn't here and we have altogether. >> tell me what your dream was as a kid. >> i wanted to be a ballet dancer. i think i was in love with the ballet slippers and a tutu and everything pink. i got to go to class and i was a sort of natural at that. it was something -- dance sort of helped channel frantic energy of mine. unlike school. i didn't love school. dance taught me discipline, concentration, focus, which is very much a part of me working as an actress. really helped understand body language and movement and how we

express ourselves with our bodies. >> when you were growing up, >> no, sorry. i'm boring. there's nothing salacious. >> how did boys fit into this as you grew up? >> there were lots of boys. there was boys. and a lot of boyfriends. >> i might as will just put it out on the table. you've been beautiful your whole life and i'm assuming that played out in school as well. it has its perks. >> it does. but i grew up with very beautiful girls. beautiful girls. texas has -- i a 9 standout. high school i was a wallflower. your mother said you're not a wallflower. >> your mom passed away when she was 95. this really hit you hard. >> i saw a grief counselor and i said when you cry so much, is this abnormal? and she said no, those tears put you in contact with that person and those tears are her and they

are very much a part of you and it puts her there, right here. so i had a hard time. >> how long ago did she pass away? >> eight years. >> and i read that you still cry every day. >> yep. every day. it doesn't matter. i don't even go to houston because i know that i couldn't handle it. too many memories and to see her house would be -- her house wouldn't be good. okay. we weren't going to cry. >> i thought we would at least get through one chapter. >> if we talk about them, i'm a goner. >> so what's in the box? >> my dream as a little girl. toe shoes. as you can see the box is a little old. this is an older pair. that was why i went to new york, to study dance and come home and

open a ballet school and teach in houston, texas, which never happened to my parents disappointment. >> what happened to college? did you go? >> i did go, i went to trinity university for a year and i thought i could dancele there. but my dream was to always go to new york. i had to follow certain rules when i went. i don't know how to take a subway today because daddy said subway today because daddy said no >> he didn't wanto you to go? >> he did not want me to go but i kept at it and made it two months from october to december and something clicked and i thought i'mve going to have a career, i need a career, i need to do something because i didn't want to go back to trinity university. bute? i did make a living for a while as a dancer. >> waited against? >> i danced in central park. >> anybody can do that. >> i know that's kind of sad.

i did -- i got west side story with richard chamberlain. but i turned it down and did a show called peg of my heart with our thicket. >> see your pretty good. >> i was good. >> you don't have to be modest. >> i wasn't cut out to be a dancer. iwh wish i had just kept up my dancing a little longer. >> did you experience rejection or failure when you started out? >> i think we all experience some rejection. but in new york it was sort of again, like --th it's different when i started out. you t walked on the street and somebody would give you a card. so it called my name. >> i went to new york a lot and i never got a card. >> don't know, no young girls get cards.

>> gotcha. but not all young girls getsh cards. >> she runs paramount, she saw me at a theater and said i want you to come in for a meeting. >> so you short-circuited what most successful people that i've interviewed had to experience. >> perhaps i would have pushed myself more, like ike said. maybe if it weren't so cushy and i just -- i like my life. it when they interviewed us on charlie i said i was happy before this unhappy now and i'm going to be happy after. i didn't take it as life or death. if this doesn't go over and we are not in the top ten but i think that's one of the appeals of the show is that we want driving ambitious actresses. >> you have kind of a remarkable experience because, honestly, when you say that this is what happened to girls in the 70s, ited didn't happen to most girls in the 70s. you just had this charmed kind of existence where you walked down the street and you get a

paramount test option or you get a modeling contract. >> well, no, yeah, i lucked out. >> give me one struggle or failure you've experienced in your early career.- >> let me think. i went in for goodbye columbus, allie mcgraw got it. >> you were in it. >> i s was in it. you've done yourer homework. >> you didn't try to see it did you? >> i don't remember you. i was modeling in front of the plaza hotel with some dogs and no one saw me, not even my parents.al because of the listerine commercial was a big deal. >> big. deal. first realth commercial and wow, i'd never made that kind of thmoney. >> what did you make? do you remember? >> i don't really remember but quite a few thousand dollars and then i got a commercial. commercials were very lucrative for me.

>> goal formula bracket. far less detergent, far more natural ingredients. >> did acting kind of plan to visit any point? >> no. i did audition for a lot of pilots that i did not get. >> okay, congratulations, you failed at something. >> yeah. >> "charlie's angels" is sexist garbage that aims at the lowest common denominator and hits the bull's-eye. >> that is not nice, is it? take prilosec otc and take control of heartburn. so you don't have to stash antacids here... here... or here. kick your antacid habit with prilosec otc.

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( music playing ) ♪ >> tell me about the sculpture. >> okay. my friend farrah fawcett, as you know, was multitalented. >> that's farrah? >> i think it is, doesn't it look like her body? but she did this. i don't know at the exact date she did it but she gavee it to me. >> when you made she did it? she made it? >> she sculpted this. she loved sculpting. this she gave me the last christmas before she passed awa away? >> you stayed close to her? >> i did. all the girls were close.

farrah and i being from texas shared a lot of the love of family and some of the same things. >> good morning, angels. >> good morning, charlie. >> let's talk "charlie's angels "charlie's angels." i heard that your addition was r subpar. >> it wasn't a good reading. it really wasn't. timing is everything in this career. switch was on. >> how soon do you want him off? >> at the rate he's winning you better make it fast. >> 5 minutes, he won't be able to feel the thumbs on one hand. >> and they saw me in that role and said hey, okay. >> so they look past the audition? >> they look past the audition or i wouldn't have gotten that probably from my reading. >> so when it went on the air, it was a huge hit. but panned by critics. they called it jiggle tv. >> we were exploited, it was empty heads. nothing of value, no depth. buthu that isn't what the show was. it wasn't meant to be

shakespeare. >> huge audience. 36 million people watched it. unheard in television. >> it is. >> i can see a long and happy relationship with just the two of us. >> why? because i look like dana cameron? >> i am a fan of all my models. didn't anyone tell you that? >> i guess they didn't. so it really doesn't matter who you look like. >> i like subtle men mr. sinclair. >> i'm going to readis you one f the reviews. >> this is going to be fun. >> "charlie's angels" is sexy sexist garbage which aims of the lowest common denominator and hits the bull's-eye. >> wow. if that is nice, is it? it didn't kill our show. they couldn't kill it. >> this is right around the time when the glib movement was in full force. did you view the character as a feminist because you could go either way on this?

>> i view this as feminist, i viewed us that we are three women in a series, not three men. i viewed us that we were emotionally and financiallye independent. and they should s share first. we always got the bad guy. i don't know why they took such a shot at us. like we were just barbie dolls prancing around. ♪ >> leave her alone! >> farrow was the breakout star in this. >> her hair too. >> her hair too. thean >> i never really thought of it that way, but it's true. so how did you deal with that [boos] you have three people going in and kate was really the accomplished actor, she made twice what you made. i think she made 10,000 and you

made 5,000. >> andw then it evened out, but you are right. >> suddenly farrah is the breakout star, how do you handle it? >> we liked one another so it wasn't a problem. i like to farrah, so how could i be anything but happy? we were very sad when she left. >> why did she want to go? >> she wanted to do movies, she didn't want to work everyday. she said this isn't fond and i said really? >> back then here you are, everybody would love to have a hit series, you have beyond a hit series. there had to be some animosity where farrah said i'm just going to go in here you are thinking look at what we've just done and you're trying to derail it. >> your exactly right. when we went back for that second season, we go there, we are made up and they go we are shutting down the set. and kate is going what do you mean you are shutting them a set? they locked our makeup rooms, our dressing rooms, everything.

not to through thes door. she was good to have by your side. at that point she was very angr angry. but why do you want somebody to do something they don't want to do? they're not going to be good, they are not going to be happy. it's not going to be fun anymore. >> a very mature way of looking at something but when you're in the moment in your riding that wave and it doesn't come along much in a lifetime it's got to much in a lifetime it's got to be >> we lucked out, we got cheryl and she was good. she came in and looked great in a bathing suit and off we went. things happen for a reason. i don't know, maybe farrah regretted it later. >> do you think she, on did? >> i think there was an element of it. >> so you've got one person who doesn't want to be them after the season. you've got another person you're working with who is filled with vinegar. >> right. >> and then there's you.

>> [laughs] wow. it's true. i was sort of an outcast iso guess. but, you know, it served me well. you know how old i am. i'm still working. if you don't have to say it. just keep it to yourself, but i'm out here doing it! ♪ >> farrah's death, i remember the day she died and it really moved people, but then a few hours later michael jackson died and farrah was not really talked about that much because of that. did that upset you? my experience with usaa

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defending his christmas eve at the white house but he's putting the time to good news tell mike use, answering telephone calls from children action to lowercase santa claus. fortunately the santa program was not affected by the shutdown. it's run by volunteers at peterson air force base using preapproved funding. a federal judge's order north korea to pay more than $500 million in a death suit. virginia student visiting north korea when he was arrested and sentenced to 16 years of hard labor. he died in 2017, shortly after he returned to the united states in a coma. his parents say he was tortured. i'm anna kooiman, now back to "objectified," jaclyn smith. "objectified," jaclyn smith. ♪ >> this is the first thing you did after "charlie's angels." >> yes. jackie kennedy. >> really scary to take on somebody so familiar to us

because he wanted to do it, you wanted to capture her completel completely, but they said just go for her essence. and that's what we did. >> you really look like her! >> i think at that period it was -- i was able to play her young with curly hair and before all the different stages of her life. >> just me, no one else. it's not every day that someone can help her husband to become president of the united states. >> let's talk post "charlie's angels." you once said step-by-step we are all living it now. >> i did? i don't remember any of this. >> does that ring true? >> i guess i said it. you've done your research. and i guess we were fighting to be accepted in a more serious

light. certainly this was a step for me. >> what were your goals after "charlie's angels"? pickle really to do good work, to love thefr script, with each thing i took on i wanted it to be different from the last. i wanted to challenge myself and certainly this one was scary justt because we knew her and w can i be jacqueline kennedy? >> being first lady? >> no, being the wife of the president. can't think of myself as first lady, not yet. righty now i'm the president's wife.o >> one of jackie's friends said casting that charles angels actress to play jackie is worse than signing clint eastwood to than signing clint eastwood to portray sir laurence olivier. >> oh, my gosh! i never heard that. i guess i had people protecting me fromti all this but i need to know the truth. i think we made a beautiful movie. and i did get nominated for a

golden glow.ha >> you got the last laugh. >> i got the last laugh. >> congratulations on that. >> thank you. >> goodbye charlie! >> when you wrapped "charlie's angels," given what it was, which was just this iconic television show, one of the biggest ever, did you think, realize, fear, that you would forever be identified as a charlie's angel? >> i really didn't fear it. i did not. i had a lot of fears, but that wasn't one. i didn't over analyze or project in my life. i really didn't. >> you never did, really? now that i hear you from a youn age, weren't thinking ten years down the road. >> i wasn't. whatever's to be, i'm going to take it as it comes. if it happens, it happens.

>> there are very few actors and actresses in hollywood who live by the mantra if it happens it happens. yet it worked out for you. >> it did work out for me. >> kind of spectacularly. >> i feel lucky. >> we were informed today that farrah fawcett has diedy after a long battle with cancer. she was 62 years old. >> farrah's death really affected you, didn't it? >> i saw a person really fight hard. hard. i saw the best part at the end. one night she came over and she said i never thought this would happen to me. i maybe saw me having heart problems, but this, this, never. >> in my other job i remember the day she died. we put that up on the website and it really moved people but then a few hours later michael jackson died. >> the associated press has just reported a person with knowledge

of the situation says michael jackson has died. michael jackson of course thell former king of pop, one of the most famous man on all of the planet. >> farrah was not really talked about that much because of that. did that upset you? >> i think it upset people that were close to her and then she wasn't mentioned in the memorial on the academy awards and i thought, how could that be? how could they leave her out? it didn't make sense. >> all three original angels had cancer. >> you're right. you think, what did we do? something? did we inhale something? >> and you have breast cancer? >> i had breast cancer. >> and kate had it as well. >> early on. much earlier than i did. >> you're good now right? >> yes, i'm good.

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it blew my humvee up, killed my sergeant. after the explosion, i suffered a closed head injury, um, traumatic brain injury, loss of a limb, burns to 60% of my body. when the doctors told me i reached my plateau, i did not want to hear that because i do not believe i have a plateau. so, i had to prove 'em wrong, which i am doing to this day and i will still do until the end of my days. i've gotten to where i am at because of my family. and, the wounded warrior project has helped me more than i can ever imagine. they have really been there to support me in my endeavors. my number one goal, basically, is to get close to where i was. i am more than ready to work hard to get to that goal. i am living proof to never give up and i will never give up.

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♪love, love, love ♪(love is our only hope) ♪love, love, love ♪where did we all? ( music playing ) ♪ >> so thisri is like when the millionth person goes to disneyland and all the bells go off, right? >> right. a million t-shirts. because of this is the milliont millionth? >> yes. over 100 million women have purchased either anyo outfit ora and accessory and my mind.

i feel great. >> you had training as a ballet dancer. and you end up a mogul. how did you learn business? >> certainly when i took on kmart it was not a job or for financial gain. i saw a need that needed to be filled and that was to give fashion in the mass market. myto mother wanted to be a dress designer. she didn't do it but she always designed for me and we did it together and i thought this is going to be interesting. >> this has to have some money angle.rl >> and ended up having the money. >> but you have to know that going in.yn >> i didn't. just like you say, did you think "charlie's angels" would have been a hit didn't. >> designed for all the roles i play. my best supporting role. even my not so successful roles. the jacqueline smith spring collection at kmart. yes, kmart. >> i took it on really as a

challenge more and that's what i mean. i sometimes things -- your instinct about something and then it cannonballs into something else. it was not about the money at all. >> when you started this part of your life, there was really nobody else doing branding except you and around thean same time, martha stewart. >> i martha stewart and i'm kmart's new consultant for entertaining fho lifestyle. i will be holding millions of customers with tips on just about everything for the home. come toma kmart. >> to be very honest with you -- she was branding but i was in kmart and then they broughto hr in and i met her at kmart. >> you got two strong, ambitious women who are kind of launching their brands at the same time. was there competition or camaraderie? >> to be in competition with martha. come on.

come on. she was something. i launched my line it was a hit right away. theyand wanted me to go into he and. dishes and i held back. i said let me concentrate on the apparel. >> max factor did not want youis to go to kmart. >> they said it's not your customer, please don't. we don't want you to pretty >> we are going to take a pause right now because i want to understand this. you are a get along type of person and here you've got max factor that they know exactly what they're doing, rooted in their business and you come along with no business experience, they say don't go to kmart and you say i'm doing it. >> your good. because that's an interesting thing you talk about. what we did, again, is i talked them into cross merchandising. so, look, let's put my fragrance in kmart and we give a little sample of my fragrance when they purchase something and it's going to up the sales of my

fragrance. and it works. >> you are an incredibly elegant person. do you wear kmart close? >> yes, i do. i do. i have skincare. >> my husband did it. it was a labor of love. he's pretty brilliant. he's a pediatric heart surgeon. you don't want to do skincare and he said they want you to do it. he said i could break this down and really understand the chemistry of it. >> you invested very well. >> oh, boy, well, how do you know? >> because i've read. am i wrong? >> i did invest. i was a conservative investor with tax-free, but i'm venture out into the market into real estate. >> i'm listening to somebody as a kid who wanted to be a ballet dancer and all of a sudden dancer and all of a sudden you're enter making deals with kmart and max factor and investing in

real estate on the stock market. where did you learn this? >> you read, you learn. you surround yourself with smart people. my dad went to college, he was a conservative investor too. i want to leave a lot for my children. >> when you do your taxes do you write on is our profession actress or businessperson? >> actress. >> really? i'm interested in that. >> because it's how i started. it's what opened up everything for me. it's what i have done kmart without "charlie's angels"? i don't know. i don't know. ♪ >> i would assume that in hollywood, especially in the ' 70s end '80s you must of had interactions with guys that were coming on to you, people in positions of power. did you encounter men who crossed the line? >> yes.

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♪ >> okay, yes. my mother and her beautiful insight. i probably looked ten years old, she said this won't really letwi this age but these -- your daddy gave it to me as a christmas present and withhe my initials d you will keep it forever.

>> it's a hairbrush? >> a hairbrush, a mirror, pretty is as pretty does. that's what she told me. >> was beauty important to you at a youngre age? >> i didn't really think about beauty and that statement i just said, pretty is as pretty does is what they believed. it really has to be wedded to something a little deeper than the physical. and certainly my mother grew older so beautifully that that was a good role model for me. >> it is clearly genetic. do you consider yourself a sex symbol? >> no. >> did you ever? >> no. >> you know people disagree with you? >> they do? well that's good. >> are you being immodest? because really when you look at it you've got a lot of accolades for that. >> may be -- i just didn't see

myself as a symbol. yes i saw that certain things paved the way but i didn't really see that aspect as a sex symbol. i think when you're on a show like charlie's people see you that way, like a barbie doll or girl in bathing suit, that picture haunts me in that white bathing suit, so maybe that's what did it. >> why doesn't it hunt you? >> it doesn't haunt me, just little tired of it. because some people are supersmart and it's nothing they did, they just are. some people are beautiful. so why not embrace it? >> i do. i do. and it has paved the way and opened doors and given me a career. we want to look the best we can. we want to do the best we can. >> did producers sometimes dismiss you because you were so good-looking? >> right, or you didn't get a role, too glamorous.

or even today when i'm working, it's always she's going to be editor at vogue or even running a magazine. but i think today i still do not get the character role that might be the more fun role to do. >> i would assume that in hollywood, especially in the '70s and '80s you must've had interactions with guys that were coming on to you, people in positions of power. it did you encounter men who crossed the line? >> yes. i think everybody does. especially actresses -- you're not going to escape it. the only way to escape it is take the power back. >> how did you do that? >> i just walked away from movies or contracts that i would have done. but i really -- and that doesn't -- again, i don't want to put myself up on some pedestal like she had the strength to walk away.

i guess who we are originally, our first base of? understandig sort of sees us through and i thought is any movie worth this? is a contract worth this? no. but that's because of mymp upbringing. i think it just bothered me. >> was sexual harassment rampant in the '70s in '80s, at least things you encounter? >> i think so. i think itit was. and i just think today, wow. it's out in the open. >> are you a feminist? >> harvey, come on. not really. but i do fight for what i believe in. more in my own way i would do it and not stand up and go and hold the flag. >> you know why i ask that because you've said some things i just found weird and it doesn't sound like you. but you set it at one point.

i would love to turn my life over to a man who would take care of me, protect me from this big bad world. >> i wonder, and i'm not even on drugs. i don't know why i said that because i'm a believer that you protect yourself and your emotionally independent and your life is better. i would like to turn over the running of the house to a man. it's hard. it's harder work than in a movie. >> is it harder for beautiful people to age do you think? >> definitely. i you're judged and you're judged -- i thought you were taller. is your hair blonde now? people just take you in in a way and even if you're confident you think wow. >> is it hard for your? >> like i said, i'm still working, i'm still creative, i'm still at it and you know what helps me? >> yeah, but you're so beautiful. >> my children.

i think your choices put you in a position of feeling loved and supported and you go with it. >> there m were three marriages that didn't work out in a life that was otherwise idyllic. >> i believe in marriage and i finally got it right but it took a few times, as you know. >> i can do that for you if you'd like. >> i know you can. oh, yes. ♪ or deserves the hard work that went into the science behind vascepa. prescription vascepa. vascepa, along with diet and exercise, has proven results in multiple clinical trials. vascepa looks different because it is different. over a decade of extensive research and development achieved proven results. that's the prescription power of vascepa.

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( music playing ) amarin thanks the clinicians and patients who participated this bed i bought probably when i was 20 years old. ♪ >> this i bought probably when i was 20 years old. i saw it in new york in an antique department and i had to have it but i couldn't afford it so i paid it out over two years. >> lay awake.st >> layaway. we have that at kmart and sears, so i did that. >> why so special? >> i just love the look of it. it was just sort of a fairy tal fairy tale. my daughter goes i grew up in this bed. this was my daughter's room, now it's her room when she comes to visit. >> your granddaughter. >> my granddaughter. >> i want to talk about family life. so your parents were married for 50 plus years. and they married until your dad passed away. >> right. >> and that is a tall order for a kid to look at and say i've

got to emulate that, right? >> yes. you've found the area. i believe in marriage and i finally got it right but it took a few times, as you know. i don't even count the first two. sorry. i don't because i was so innocent. i even hate to say the numbers. >> i can do that for you if you'd like. >> i know you can. oh, yes, . but you know what? it's okay. i finally did it, didn't i? and my childrens' father, he's great now but he was an alcoholic. it's okay to say it because he's 20 years sober but it hurt us in having those kids we did exactly right. we did that perfectly and we still are very close because of that. >> there were three marriages that didn't work out in a life

that was otherwise idyllic. >> i guess we all have our thing. >> everybody has their thing. and you said you were an emotional person, you take things in and very personally. it had to be really hard. >> well especially with two children i thought i was going to die. to hurt them i felt like i was going to just collapse and i didn't know how to protect them and perhaps i didn't always do it right. i said nothing's going to change in your life but things do change and it was difficult. it hurt. you know. you questionuh yourself. >> so you married dr. bradley.d >> one of the doctors that operated on my dad and met him in the hospital and who would have dreamed, you know? >> so why do you think this one worked? >> we share the same values.

we see life the same way. >> i think you have even said that your children, your love of their borders on obsessive. >> obsessive. yeah. and i try to hold back and i think i've changed over the years but from that first prenatal vitamin it's about protect, protect, guide. teach. make sure you catch every raindrop. butdr it's not -- you know, as i've gotten to this point i realize those raindrops have to fall in there going to be okay. >> can you let go, seriously? >> no. no i can't let go. and i can't and i try and worry and i can't call my mother and she is going to say everything's going to be all right. >> my mommy is caring, considerate, sensitive and worries about others.

>> i love you mom! where are you mom? i love you mom! >> how did your grandchild change your life? >> i need an extra chamber here. she's just light. and she's just total joy. and i think the great thing about being a grandparent, you really are in the moment. you realize you're in a certain place in your life and you don't miss the moments. she, you know, wants to go play on that jungle jim and i'm going on that jungle jim and i'm going to stay as long as you're not punching a clock as much. you're really -- you know this time is valuable. oh, boy, it's valuable. >> i have to tell you, you surprised me. >> really? >> yet. you really surprised me. >> in whatd way? >> you seem to have your priorities straight and your aspirations straight and none of this was an accident. now that i hear your life story. it really is impressive and i'mo

so glad that you took the time to talk to me. >> thank you, harvey. >> i really mean it. >> ittt was a very fun, fun interview.. and it wasn't too much of a cry baby. >> you quite a little bit. >> thank you so much. >> this is a fox news alert. i'm mike emanuel in washington. on a christmas eve pact with breaking news from an ongoing partial government shutdown to a shocked day for the u.s. financial markets, amid an escalating battle between president trump and the chairman of the federal reserve. the dow jones industrial average 653 points, the s&p 500 dropping 65.5 points. the nasdaq lost 140 points. those are nearly 3% declines from the dow and s&p and more than 2% for the nasdaq marking the biggest percentage drops in trading onad christmas eve ever for all three industries. markets will be closed tro