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>> from a national security perspective, the president should have stayed home. >> the reason he went now was because the government was shut down. >> he's like the grinch. i'm being honest. >> we should also be concerned that mr. trump once again used the captive audience of american heroes to push his unpopular domestic agenda. even in doing something right, he figures out a way to sow chaos. >> it took far too long, especially compared to obama. >> over at cnn, attacking the president wasn't enough. they decided to attack the troops as well. >> the reporters traveling said that the troops brought the hats with them, including one hat that said trump 2020. we will have to see if that actually proves to be the case. the question is if they brought them or if the president brought them. what commander allowed that to happen because this is very much

against military policy and regulation. troops are not supposed to be involved in political activities. the u.s. military is not a political force. >> it's completely inappropriate for the troops to do this. >> back when presidential candidate barack obama signed memorabilia for the troops back in 2008. he had a d after his name though instead of an r. thankfully not everybody's lost their minds. >> it's good that he went to see the troops. important that he went to do it. he was criticized for it. obviously they wanted to address that. we should give him credit where credit is due. >> it just sends a strong message that they love and support our military. and what a great time to do it. >> joe, is this a good look for

the media? why are serving sole -- soldiers in a war zone bringing a particular hat? >> what you're doing here is it's okay to go after the president in terms of policy or the things that he says. once you start attacking the people that voted for him or military people that are obviously serving overseas, during christmas no less, then you've got a problem. and you have to ask yourself this question, mark. let's say, honestly, like you pointed out, as i did in my column today, do you really think any news organization would have gone ahead with that story? of course they wouldn't have. >> no, i couldn't care less what soldiers in these, frankly, god-awful situations, because life at a base in iraq stinks.

it's not like being in germany where the president was today. you can't stroll down to town, go to a local bar, meet a nice german girls. it's nothing like that. you're stuck in that lousy fortress that you hope is a fortress. and the president comes to visit you. and the preoccupation of the american media is whether hats the troops chose to take to that event are somehow some potential crime that they can be pulled up in front of a military for. >> and i think that pivot happened because the original narrative was, as we all recall, is that president trump was supposed to be the first president since 2002 to not visit the troops at christmas. and once that fell apart as he landed in iraq, then social media goes nuts. and what happened was the pivot went from, oh yeah, okay, trump

went, sure, but what was his moment exactly for going? i give you the washington post, mark, quoting, the president's visit follows months of public pressure for him to spend time with troops. think about that again. follows months of public pressure. in other words, we the media got the public riled up to force trump to go to a war zone, instead of him just going like every president has done. >> according to soledad, she actually gave alyssa milano credit for shaming the president for getting on the plane that he had already gotten on. >> let's say the president was shamed, okay, then you can say

it's a last-minute thing. when you go to iraq, you have to plan it in advance. you have to do it weeks in advance for security. the air force has to fly in and cell phones off and all of that. you would think you would see though, however, some remorse, some apology, some, hey, we went ahead with this story a little bit too early because we ran a story on christmas saying the president hadn't been to see the troops at christmastime. people don't mind that sort of transparency from the media. we don't see those concessions. instead we see the pivot to the negative. that's why trust in the media is this. 93% of republicans think that the media knowingly creates stories, makes them up, that's false. you say, that's republicans. 79% of independents, 53% of democrats, even a majority. that's the thing.

this is something going across the board, seeing exactly what's happening here. >> thanks. don't worry about that. as soon as the media called for a special council to investigate how those maga hats got to iraq, everything will be fine. and rachel is fox contributor. they both join us. rochelle, stepping back and looking at this a little more objectively, is it really a good look? the troops like the guy. the guy got on with the troops. is there really any political mileage to be had? >> at first i was saying, no, these men and women in uniform shouldn't have gotten a hat sign and been out there with make america great again hats. it is breaking a rule when it comes to a department. but at the same time, these

troops have not seen an american president since 2009. i believe obama was the last one to go visit. so maybe they're not necessarily showing support for the president or getting his signature because they are republicans. >> come on. >> maybe -- listen. how can you disagree? i haven't even finished. it's their commander-in-chief. so maybe it's not because he's a republican president. maybe they're looking at it like he's our commander-in-chief, we're proud to stand behind our president. as long as they continue our national security, have at it. >> while rochelle gave that theory more credit than i would think -- >> i'm very balanced. >> if you had the misfortune to be spending christmas on one of those forts, cut off from life in the middle of the iraqi desert, who the hell cares what hat you take? >> of course they shouldn't

care. but the more important question is, let's be honest, the reaction from the troops was very overwhelmingly positive, and it should be. listen, barack obama decimated our military. barack obama -- wait a minute, he did. he cut funding for our military. he put in rules that actually caused -- >> what does that have to do with what we're talking about? >> it does have to do. let me finish. he enacted rules of engagement that actually put our military on the battlefield, in danger. wait a minute, mark. he did that. and they said he was a great commander-in-chief. he goes over and does all this not for milano or the media but because he loves the troops. this is a man who loves the military. >> how about this? as a non-democrat, non-republican thing.

democrats won't in favor of the bush wars, as they call them. nor was donald trump in 2016. in a sense, donald trump is at odds with both democrat policy and republican policy on the middle east. >> yeah, he's definitely fighting both sides. when you talked about the press, i think the press is attacking on him is because of some of the misleading comments he made when he talked about the pay raises for the military. they do get raises but not a 10% raise. i think there are ways the media was looking at it and attacking him for his less than knowledgeable education, i guess you could say, on what's really happening there. but i don't -- i think that him visiting was a good idea. i think there was an article by the washington post where it said he was scared to go over there for some time. so i'm glad he got over that fear. >> he's not scared. what would they have had him do,

say, oh, i'm sorry, i'm not going to sign your act. and then they would criticized him and say, hey, what a jerk. >> there's too much of that. if you're seriously talking about soldiers doing something wrong because they asked their can commander-in-chief to sign a hat, then you've flown the coop. >> the reason why the american people hate the press -- and by the way, the troops love the president because he did sign a bill that he took a lot of flak from the signing a big bill that was for funding the military. >> i think they love him. >> and this is part of it. i think that he also has a lot -- i think there was a part in this segment right before you came to us about this being public pressure. and so i think that he's really trying to show that he has some sort of control of what's happening right now in iraq.

>> why doesn't that criticism come to barack obama? he goes to visit the troop, no one questions his motives. >> obama is living his best life. >> but there is a double standard and that is what people are talking about, rochelle. >> we've got to go, ladies. iraq's a crazy place. you can't just plan those things with no notes. >> no, you can't. they're going to take this to the green room. we're now on day six of the government shutdown, triggered by congress's refusal to fund a wall on the u.s./mexican border. the president tweeted, have the democrats finally realized that we need a wall on the southern border? and do the democrats realize that most of the people not getting paid are democrats? fox washington correspondent rich joins us with more on the

situation in d.c. it's all yours. >> congress officially gavelled in this afternoon. there is no sign of this shutdown ending anytime soon. president trump has returned to the white house. he has just tweeted, quote, this isn't about the wall. everybody knows that a wall will work perfectly. in israel the wall works 99.9%. this is only about the dems letting us have a win. sanders says, quote, the president and his team in washington over christmas hoping to negotiate a deal to stop the crisis on the border. the democrats decided to go home. she also says the administration

offered democrats what she called a reasonable common sense solution five days ago. though a spokesperson for pelosi says, quote, democrats have offered republicans three options to reopen the government, that all include funding for border security but not the president's immoral, ineffective, and expensive wall. trump expressed the funding bill must include money for a border wall. >> folks are saying, can we have drones and technology? technology is bells and whistle. when you say, how long is it going to take? when are they going to say that we need border security. >> pelosi's offices democrats will pass their bill after they take control of the house next week. they must all agree on the same funding bill. on capitol hill, meadows says

the needle has moved past a shutdown. they continue to talk -- >> they're on the hunt for an unnamed illegal immigrant suspected of murdering a police officer, an immigrant from fiji was gunned down wednesday morning during a traffic stop. police have released footage of the suspect and say they believe he is still in the area. we will continue to monitor this breaking story. and coming up, tucker will be back with us to discuss the crisis of american manhood. plus, president trump insists the government won't reopen until he has money for his wall. but if he gets it, will that wall work? that's next on tucker carlson tonight. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers

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system. i.c.e. has been overwhelmed by requests and court rulings and now releasing hundreds of migrants onto the streets of el paso. the message is america is powerless to stop them from settling here. jonathan hunt is here with more. jonathan. >> good evening, mark. homeland security says the immigration system is at breaking point. border patrol agents say they're overwhelmed. about 1,000 immigrants have been released onto the streets of texas this week alone. the first deaths of children in a decade. in el paso, officials say they have little choice but to release those hundreds of immigrants because of decades of

action. so they're being dropped off at a bus station in el paso where aid groups are offering support. more are expected to be released today. >> they have spent eight to ten days in cells. now they've been released. what we've been doing as a community is to support them, giving them food, a place for them to stay at night. >> president trump has repeatedly said the era of so-called catch and release has ended, but frankly that is exactly what is happening in texas right now. and it all comes against the backdrop of the government shutdown over president trump's demand for a border wall that he says could stem the flow of illegal immigration. the wall and deaths of those immigrant children will no doubt

top the agenda. mark. >> just to be clear on that, jonathan, i.c.e. can hold these people if that chap is right, for ten days or whatever, and then meanwhile they're given a two-year court date. so in the gap between the ten days and two years they just get to hang out in america. that's the idea, is it? >> right. what i.c.e. is saying is that under the current laws they have no choice but to release these immigrants after that timeframe and therefore they take them to the bus station and then, yes, essentially they are free to go where they wish to do as they please, mark. >> well, while migrants continue to pour into the united states, critics of the president claim nothing can be done because the wall is useless. >> this whole issue is a crock

from start to finish. he picked it up on the campaign trail as something to appease the masses and play to his base. it's not going to stop terrorism. it's not going to be 2,000 miles wall. it's not going to be see-through or anything else. you can't wall that border. >> jimmy kimmel has been ridiculing americans who are so desperate for a secure border they've been willing to donate to a gofundme campaign for it. >> this trump supporter started a gofundme campaign to raise a billion dollars for the wall. he's launched it on sunday. it's almost $9 million. this is what people do with their disposable income. donating money for a wall that will never exist. it's like starting a college fund for harry potter. a more useful thing to do would

be to go outside and feed it into a bird. a lot of people are dipping into their meth money for this. >> got it. thank you, jimmy. so would a wall work or not? a former special agent and supervisor for the department of homeland security and he joins us now. everybody is mocking this. at this stage, i would welcome a 2,000-mile beaded curtain. but are these critics right that it's a complete waste of time? >> no, it'll work. the border is 2,000 miles long and you won't be able to actually wall the whole border, but that'll create points where we could actually apprehend the immigrants coming in. >> what's interesting to me is if you look up on the northern border where there's far fewer

people coming across, and yet the united states government has actually put physical barricades in a lot of cross-border towns on the canadian border, presumably because it works there. so why would it not work on the mexican border? >> walls work. they do. when i worked on the border, the border was simply a strand of fence in some areas, like a strand of wire. now you have -- >> when you say it's open, because most people who cross international frontiers legitimately will do so at big border post. but you're saying there are actually 100-mile stretches where people can actually just walk into the united states, a

country that's supposedly been on orange alert for 17 years. >> yeah, definitely. now, i was on the dhs's human smuggling cell back in 2014. now, you do have special interest aliens transiting traveling up those same routes that they're using. so anybody can come and go through that border. >> so you mean when you say special interests aliens, you mean that potential jihadists have figured out -- they look at what's on their tv screens on the rio grande and figure that instead of trying to fly, you might as well walk into the country. >> you can. the border's open. now i detailed in arizona and it was literally one strand of

barbed wire. so anyone can walk across that bored. >> a strand of barbed wire. that seems more useless than the beaded curtain. thank you for that. i'm not sure people actually visualize it quite the way you know it. coming up, tucker will be here to discuss the declining fortunes of american men. and paris is still coping with riots. so why do lawmakers want a carbon tax here? that's next. (woman) candace, two minutes.

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month, in what's been a very tumultuous end to the year. the french have been rioting for more than a month now after the government tried to impose an anti-global warming gas tax upon them. nevertheless, a lot of americans, including the outgoing senator jeff flake, think it's time for america to have its own carbon tax. is that wise? mark reynolds joins us. mark, when you see what's happening in france, that's a more extreme version of what happens when carbon taxes are actually put into place elsewhere. people don't seem to like it, don't seem to care for it. >> first of all, thank you so much for having me on is show. the nice thing about the act is that it actually puts money in

people's pockets. so i think there's people who are suffering both here and other countries. and i think the reason there's so much republican support on both the house and senate version of this bill is it actually allocates money back to households so that they're prepared to deal with whatever they have to. >> this is the bill that's being proposed and the carbon tax being proposed in the united states, which under the proposal supposedly then gives money back to households. basically the automatic increases kick it i think startling around 2022 and they go all the way up until mid century. it's beyond the control of other congresses. it becomes an entitlement program that gets automatic increases every year. and you can't go to a polling

station if you don't like it. it essentially puts the carbon tax beyond democratic accountability, doesn't it? >> well the lead republican sponsor says that he likes this bill because it's market-based. it actually lets the market determine how we get to the new energy economy. i think that's a lot of what mr. fitzpatricfitzpatrick, one republicans on the bill, said. you give money back to household so the government doesn't pick what to do with it. it's up for us to determine what to do with the dividends. but it'll be a free-market bill. >> what do you make of the competitive enterprise institute's objection to it, that it will kill america's new energy independence, what we see with fracking and so forth, and means we're no longer dependent

on maligned saudi sheiks? >> yeah, so i think there's something really interesting happening right now. there's actually a race to the new energy economy. and it's probably going to be either us or china. china is making a huge investment in renewable energy. i hope it's us. i think this bill creates enough incentive to create all the innovation that we know we need. >> but there's no carbon tax in china. they have the most polluted river in the world. what's coming down that stream every day is nothing you would want any of your kids to be frolicking in. what the french protesters object to is that this is their lives. it's not a theory.

it's not a macroeconomic theory. if it's a choice between c levels in the 22nd century or how they have to live their lives in the century they're actually living in, they'll prioritize the reality of their lives. >> yeah, i think that's why so many republicans like this bill in both the house and senate is because money is actually returned. you get a monthly check. and it's your choice what you do with it. the government is not going to tell you what to do with the money. it's up to american households to determine what to do. >> and you believe that's good? they always say that and then it goes into the general fund. the gasoline taxes. they were supposed to be about that and they all go into -- well, we'll see how it works out. i don't see the public appetite for it. but thank you for talking with us today. and happy -- >> and thank you for having me on. and let me just say to the people watching, there is one of

our chapters in every community out there. if you want to work with people on solutions, we have a big tent and we would love to see you in your neighborhood. >> okay. big tents we like. and we won't heat them with conventional energy sources. thank you for that, mark. it's time for tucker's final exam. have you been following the news over the christmas period? find out if you can remember it better than the big-time professionals here at fox. that's up next. ♪ t it's something you work for when i couldn't afford college college of the ozarks gave me the chance to work for my degree i'll graduate debt free from a college where character is as important as class work and patriotic education is part of the curriculum we are hard work u and we are working for our american dream

♪ >> oh, you know with that music means. the news professionals are interrogated. see if they can actually remember the events their cover every day. this week's final exam is a new york special. we have kennedy, the last non-guest host in the people. and also with us from fox news carley. and speaking of guest hosting, carley will actually be in this

slot on monday host. and then kennedy will follow carley. so this is the fox new year's eve team. okay, contestants, hands on buzzers. i'm going to ask the questions and the first one to buzz in gets to answer but you must wait until i finish asking. you can answer once and i shall acknowledge you, according to rules said by the international quiz show committee in geneva, by saying your name. correct answer is worth one point. get it wrong you lose a point. an outgoing democrat senator just blasted oocasio-cortez. which lawmaker made those

remarks? >> claire mccaskill. >> i don't know her. i'm a little confused. but it's a good example of what i'm talking about, a bright and shiny object. >> meow. senator mccaskill. >> don't let the door hit you where the lord split you, senator mccaskill. >> so one-zip as we head into question 2. this is critical for carley. question 2, former first lady michelle obama is now the most admired woman in all of america. that's according to a new gallup poll. but she had to bump another woman who had held on to the top spot for 17 years. who was the other woman? >> oh, and it's kennedy again. >> just a guess for me anyway.

hillary clinton. >> oh, come on, hillary clinton the most admired woman in america for 17 years? are you kidding me? >> michelle obama has overtaken hillary clinton as the most admired woman in the country. what does that say about hillary now? >> i wanted to say oprah because i feel like that truly is one of the most admired women in america, but i think hillary is now third. >> oprah is number two. but it's a tragedy for hillary. she was once the most admired woman in america. >> i blame misogyny, even though there are other women on the list. >> we are clearly on that list as well. >> yeah, it's 2-zip to kennedy. come on, you don't want to be outside on new year's eve.

we'll give you a studio if you can turn this thing around. question 3, we recently told you about a popular calendar in russia which features various images. that same calendar is now a monster hit in another country and it's outselling ones featuring puny homegrown celebrities. which country is it? kennedy. >> united states. >> tesla's putin in the united states? doesn't sound likely. >> i'm blushing. they're flying off the shelves in japan of all places. the calendars are their top sellers. >> dipping into a hot tub. >> 60 years old, not looking too bad. and here he is cuddling a

leopard. >> kennedy has lost one point. it's 2-0. question 4, multiple choice. oh no, 1-0. >> oh, i lost a point. i thought i kept it. >> you lost it. you're in huge trouble now. question 4, this is a multiple choice question. there's a crisis on the international space station. something mysterious was found by astronauts. what was it they found?

and it's the trigger-happy kennedy. what do you say? >> jar of pickles. >> jar of pickles. >> i was going to go with a but -- >> let's roll that tape. >> a matter of life and death, a tiny hole discovered in a russian capsule that docks to the international space station. >> and a good unobstructed view now of that black spot, that's the hole on the external hull. >> a russian believes it was drilled from inside the capsule. >> good to know. i'm learning a lot on this show, by the way. >> if you're a russian cosmonaut, just plug that hole with a picture of putin chestless in the hot tub. tally -- that'll take care of it. this is the lowest scoring game

in the history of this show. final question. >> maybe we've been dipping into the new year's champagne early. >> final question, another multiple choice. listen carefully. there is a viral video of a colorado woman chasing down a thief who had stolen her christmas packages from her front door. now, there's a special name given to people who steal in this way. is it, a, a porch pirate, b, a parcel poacher, or c, a package snatcher. >> carley succeeded in actually hitting the buzzer. i didn't even know hers worked. >> it is a win i do not deserve. >> okay, let's see. >> i am going with a, porch pirate. >> porch pirate. roll tape. >> the scourge of the holiday season, those pesky porch pirates intent on ruining

christmas. one woman decided to take matters into her own hands. when she confronted the brazen pirate who made her way through the neighborhood with her stoppable booty. >> i thought, no way is this happening to me. give it. i'm going to [bleep] call the police. i saw you. throw it down! >> and i would have ran for as many miles as i had to to get my passage. >> good for her. >> this is a humiliation for kennedy. >> i don't deserve it. i feel like hillary clinton on election night. my victory was a sure thing, mark. kennedy did all the heavy lifting and i just won the popular votes. >> carley just hits it once and takes the trophy. >> can i say, thank you so much.

i believe that it should go to kennedy. >> come on, i can't stand this good sportsmanship. here you go. there is your tucker carlson mug. you'll see these ladies on monday. that's all for this week's final exam. pay attention to the news this week and tune in on thursdays to see if you can do better than one-buzz carley. tucker will be here next right after the break. ♪

>> tucker recently sat down to interview the author of a new book on the crisis afflicting american men. here's what happened. ♪ >> tucker: if you look at the numbers, you quickly conclude that men are in crisis in america. compared to women, they are far more likely to drop out of

school, go to jail. and the establishment seems uninterested in all of this and they appear to think men are still too successful and need to be held back. you just wrote an important new book called "man out: men on the sidelines of american life." thank you very much for coming on. i don't think you're a conservative activist and i'm also grateful that someone is saying this because the numbers support that it's true. >> it is true. and as you say, the problem has really largely been ignored. i mean, democrats and a lot of people in the country don't see men as having problems, but there are a lot of men who are struggling, struggling with work, struggling in families, struggling with health, a lot of areas i touch on in my book. >> tucker: to such a great extent that it would seem a

crisis that affects everybody because men and women need each other to reproduce, but also everybody has a father, brother, son. why do you think it's been ignored? >> well, there's been a lot of political correctness in this country that's kind of made the main narrative that women are the oppressed ones. and they have been historically oppressed. but that doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of men struggling. i mean, you don't -- it's not a zero-sum game. >> tucker: but it's been presented as one, that one sex succeeds only when another moves backwards. where does that assumption come from? >> a lot of politics looks at things that way and it's pretty unfortunate. but i think men have not been good at advocating for themselves. it's been interesting in the last few elections, a lot of the political activists have been women. i mean, you hear more from women

these days. men aren't good at forming groups. >> tucker: so you work at progressive policy. that's not the heritage foundation. >> right. >> tucker: i think it's fair to say you probably work in a mostly liberal world. what kind of reaction did your piece get among people you know? >> it's interesting. conservative media have tended to like it more. it's kind of troubling that this should be a bipartisan issue. i mean, all americans should be doing well or should have the opportunity to do well. and they should also have justice behind them. i mean, men are being accused wrongly. there are a lot of awful things that men do. don't get me wrong. but the lack of due process in some of those sexual assault allegations, it's pretty troubling. >> tucker: it's just interesting because the most progressive president the country's ever

had, fdr, four terms, the very first piece through the congress was the ccc, which was gained at young men, just men, between 18 and 25 or something like that, getting them back to work and restoring their vitality through work. what would happen if a democrat in the modern era suggested something like that? >> well, you think it would play well. while the unemployment statistics look good, there are a lot of men who have either been pushed out of the labor force or dropped out. they're about 17, 18% of men who aren't working. and there are a lot of younger men who are neither in school or working. so why is that? and why can't we create better jobs for them? and, yes, i mean, you think a democrat would pitch some kind of jobs program. >> tucker: i think -- i mean, this is a longer conversation,

but i think the answer is toxic masculinity. >> yeah. >> tucker: whatever that means. >> well, yeah, i mean that's become the phrase du jour i guess. i interviewed a lot of men and women around the country. and even liberal men said, well, feminism's done a lot for women, but what's it done for me? >> tucker: that's a fair question. and you ask it in this book. thank you for doing that. >> good to talk to you. >> big tech has become the greatest threat to americans' privacy and personal freedoms. a new finding found that americans trust facebook less than any other company. also a growing number of

americans are seeking treatment for tech addiction. tom, a family therapist and the author of "disconnected: how to reconnect our digitally distracted kids." i've read that book and so should you. and he joins us now. just to go with the big story of our time thing, when you look at this so-called tech addiction and you follow where that leads, you do worry that in some ways these little things that started as video sites are somehow basically rewiring humanity. >> they are. and when it comes to addiction, which obviously i've studied in my background, basically if anything, whether it's gambling, alcohol, drugs, anything that's considered addictive, if it's affecting one of the following four, you could be diagnosed as

an addict. is it affecting your family, health, your job or your occupation, and have you had any legal issues? when we look at technology, we can check off each one of those for many, many people. so this whole addictive, whether it's there or not, i'm all about it. >> it's being organized on a global scale with billions and billions of people. and when you look at children, like middle-schoolers who have never known anything but this world, their behavior does seem to be not where middle schoolers were 20, 50, 70 years ago. >> it's actually unbelievable. i get more middle-school-age kids with major anxiety disorders. the absorption of social media, the lack of self, the lack of a

sense of self and so forth and how it's affecting the self-esteem and causing mental health things. >> you have a scene in your book where you talk about when you were a young guy sitting in a bar. you never know who's on the barstool next to you. i could relate to that. sometimes you find yourself on the other side of the world. you meet different people with different views. now everyone in the bar is just like scrolling the phone. >> you go into the airport if you travel. they have the screens in front of every barstool. so instead of hanging out talking with one another, now everybody's distracted by these devices. it's like bottles of wine dangling around if you're an alcoholic. you can't escape from it. >> yeah, that's a worrying -- as i said, i think this is one of the biggest stories of our time. i hate to think where we're going to be if we don't change

it. but how do we change it? >> well, it's not something that's going to happen overnight. we have to keep creating awareness, having conversations like we're having right now so people can see this and understand the ramifications of this things. i'm lecturing and fighting about it and trying to get other people to do the same. i think we're going to have to get there. >> okay. well, we will hold you to that, tom, because something -- these companies are bigger than countries now. that is about it for us tonight. you can tune in each night at 8:00 to the show that is the sworn enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness, and group think. and don't forget to dvr the show. that's less harmful, less addictive than if you just go on facebook. don't bother with that. just dvr the show. now this is an exciting moment in the evening. we are going to lift nancy

pelosi's beaded curtain and find out who is guest hosting for hannity tonight. who is it going to be? i think i can see jason kennedy filling in for sean. >> i always love it when you're on with tucker. i love it when you're on. so thank you so much. >> by the way, that is a terrific interview you did with sam johnson today and even should look at that. that was the best thing on tv this morning. fantastic stuff. >> we're going to go back and tell you about sam johnson, a special man and a true american hero. so thanks, mark. we appreciate it. welcome to the special edition of "hannity: trump vs. the swamp". i'm jason in tonight for sean. yesterday president trump made a surprise visit to the air base in iraq where he visited the brave men and women serving abroad during christmas.