pennsylvania. thank you, morgan, a good job tonight. kat timpf. happy new year, every one. [♪] jesse: i'm jesse watters. welcome to this special edition of "watters world." looking back at some of the craziest and controversial moments of 2018. a year and a half into his investigation, the special counsel hasn't even earthed any evidence of collusion between trump and russia. but he made serious moves involving several key players. former national security advisor mike flynn who pled guilty to lie together fbi is cooperating on at least three investigations. former trump campaign chair paul

manafort entering into a plea deal with mueller before breaking it. he's awaiting sentencing next year. trump's former lawyer michael cohen is going to prison for payment of hush manny to a porn star. but it started with carter page. i spoke with him about abuse of power and how he became tangled up in the russian remember. >> no one knows whoer. you are this man of mystery. who is carter page? >> that's the beauty of it and how they were able to get so much taken care of. they had a blank slate. they had a fake dossier and they wanted to payments a picture on someone. and it's easier to do that than

on a russian billionaire. >> he accused you of being a moscow lover and putin butt kisser. they say you are going over to russia and trying to talk to the power that be. is that true? >> i have been doing deals in moscow for a decade and a half and working there. actually i am also a foreign policy scholar. i have written a lot about russia. i did hide ph.d on central asia. jesse: so you know about the country and you are over there trying to make deals and giving speeches. and they open up surveillance on you because they think you are doing something illegal and colluding with the russians. >> similar to the walk situation back in the early 2000s, if you have fake intelligence and you are able to sell to it

congress and the american people, one thing leads to another and you have a nice little conflict. jess, they are investigating the abuse of the fisa court. they presented a dossier that was salacious and unfair ride. that's a crime and you are not allowed to do that. we are learning the white house chief of staff was involved in pushing the investigation forward with the fbi counter-intelligence people. harry reid was involved and he was briefed by the c.i.a. director, and wrote a letter to james comey urging the opening of the investigation. when you were being surveilled, were you talking to donald trump and talking to people in the campaign? >> i have never spoken to donald trump in my entire life. jesse: that's huge news. because the way the media spins it you are a central figure. did you ever get a 6th sense

saying this is fishy? >> there are a lot of people leaking to the news about this. that gave me a significant suspicion. jesse: did you change your behavior after you sensed you might be under surveillance? >> i have not done anything wrong in russia for 27 years since i first went there. >>er saying you are talking to russians at the republican convention in the summer of 2016. is that true? >> i said hello to ambassador kislyak. jesse: which is not a crime. okay. you are under the microscope. do you feel guilty for being a part of this surveillance that has yesterday to a special prosecutor? >> i feel guilty that i didn't fight back harder when this first started, 45 days before the election when the fake news

stories started coming out defaming me. part of me feels bad that i didn't do more to stand up for my rights. jesse: you got your reputation thrown into the gutter. the trump campaign tried to disavow you. you understand that. this entire escapade has embarrassed the country. do you feel at all guilty for giving these enemies of the president this kind of ammunition to use against them? >> again, i feel guilty that i did not fight back to get the truth out there earlier. i think the beauty of the last couple months since the house intelligence committee and other senate judiciary committee started showing what the truth was, what happened in terms of election interference wit by the u.s. government operatives in washington.

that has done a lot to help set the record straight. >> you wouldn't have changed any of your behavior of leading up to the election. >> i can't imagine anything i could have done. jesse: like his father donald trump, jr. dismissed the probe as a witch hunt. let's talk about the conspiracy for a second here. there are many layers. what they are alleging in the memo is this guy paid for by hillary, the foreign agent he created this fake dirt about your father then shopped it to the "washington post," cnn and "new york times," then took those reports, and gave it to the judge to help bolster the credibility of the warrant application. so "the washington post" and "new york times," the whole year and a half they must have known this thing was bogus and they

were in cahoots with him. they worked with him. >> they weaponized the fbi and the doj to attack the duly elected president of the united states. jesse: what does this say about the entire investigation? is it rot to the core? >> it always has been. it is so ridiculous. let it go. the real problem that i had with it other than millions in legal fee and lots of time wasted and being smeared throughout the media. at least they uncovered this. if they would have just let it go, there is a little bit of sweet revenge for me and the family. if they wouldn't have done this, this stuff would be going on. this would be going on at the highest levels of government. they would be continuing to do it to my father. imagine how effective he could

be given the year he has had without this cloud over his head. i want them to come. but you have been look for two years, you have come up with nothing other than their own nefarious actions and their own collusions. but they have come up with nothing. at this point you have got to come to something. if they try to drag it out for a year so the democrats have their talking points. you see the democratic senators. this is mccarthyism. you have a guy who has been screaming russia, russia, for 18 months screaming about mactar thinkism. the irony is ridiculous. jesse: you have two competing narratives. on the left, the media, that donald trump is a colluder and he was in cahoots with the russians to help win the presidency. and on the other hand you had people reporting that the

department of justice and the fbi under president obama rigged the investigation for hillary and turned the screws to trump. now it looks like in a corrupt and illegal way. the facts are out now. the facts belong on this side. >> 100%. by the way. this has been a much more recent narrative. they have been looking at the other one for over two years. i took a 20-minute meeting. but northeast they needed it to be true. they needed to it be true. they staked their entire credibility. their whole narrative was now we can keep going. jesse: what does this do to the media's credibility which wasn't high to begin with after this whole hoax is exposed? >> i think it gets rid of the notion that there is any

objectivity left. >> except. "watters' world," fair and balance. >> there is none anymore. as long as people understand that while they are watching, it's news entertainment. to fill a 24-hour news cycle people are giving their opinions. they are relaying news with their preferred choice of spin. and that's a shame. jesse: george papadopoulos released from federal prison earlier this month serving 12 of his 14-day prison sentence as part of his guilty plea with bob mueller. he has had his world turned upside down by the investigation. when you were involved with the trump campaign back in the summer of 2016. you were invited to go to europe. this is when it all started. who invited you over there and why? >> when i was officially part of

the campaign, i was living in london at the time. i was working for the london center for international law practice, which now we find out is some sort of obscure shady front for something that it wasn't. jesse: you were working for a group that you are didn't realize was a front group. >> you it was a front for western intelligence. jesse: what was the first meeting that set this thing in motion? >> so i'm officially part of the campaign around march 11. and i tell this group, i'm leaving london, i'm going back to the u.s. and joining trump. but they wanted to bring me to rome with them to this university. after i look into the school, after i have had time this past year to look into these places i was going back and forth to. it's a training school for

western spies. jesse: they bring to you rome at some point and you believe you were involved with another western intelligence front group there, and you had no idea. then what happened? >> then i randomly am introduced to joseph first sfa is the infamous professor who is allegedly a super russian spy who had the one piece of information that no one else on this planet had about clinton's emails. jesse: what was the reason for the meeting? who set the meeting up? >> that's the key point. the london center for international law practice set up this meeting. jesse: what did he say about hilly's emails. >> i have information, the russians have thousands of hillary clinton's emails. i never heard the word dnc or podesta. jesse: when he told you russians

had thousands of hillary's emails, what did you do next, did you tell anybody? >> i have been asked this question a million times. jesse: i skit the best. >> the answer is i have absolutely no recollection of telling anyone on the trump campaign about this. what i did do was i gossipped about it with the greek foreign minister like diplomats do. i'm not a diplomat. but people in policy circles gossip about rumors. apparently i told the australian high commission alexander downer the same information. >> you are at a social event and you run into alexander downer who was the australian what? >> there is a misunderstanding that it just run into this person randomly. jesse: you believe you were set up again. off course. jesse: you were manipulated into a meeting with alexander downer

who is a russian diplomat. >> this was the head of the equivalent of the cia of australia for 17 years. he was the foreign minister and now the top diplomat in the london. so then he basically starts becoming bridge rant, talking to me saying trump is a horrible person. all your ideas in the middle east, my personal ideas, my business was the energy business in israel. they are a threat to british interests. and i have no memory of talking about emails. >> you say you never spoke to him about emails, but he downer went to who, the fbi and said this gentleman who is working for the trump campaign, george papadopoulos told me about hillary's emails and some russian zmeks is that what happened? >> that's what the media is saying. i'd told the fbi i felt he was

recording my meetings. jesse: you went to the fbi after you met with this australian. >> i told them i thought the guy was recording my conversations. the meeting was very weird. i had four or five strange meetings during the campaign and this was one of those. jesse: you have gone the yourself involved in this huge situation, an international espionage situation. were you ever spied upon or were your phones tapped or emails looked into? any idea? >> all i can say i know it's public knowledge i had stefan halper luring me to london so the british could spy on me. jesse: people believe he's a cia agent? he was paid by the obama administration a pretty nice sum

of cash. >> the word on the street was this guy was a dual agent of mi6 and the cia. jesse: he brings you back to london and you believe you were surveilled there. so you had to testify in front of robert mueller and he caught you up in some sort of perjury trap. i know that's complicated. i heard you say what happened there. perjury traps are easy to walk into. i understand what happened there. he gout and you are going to serve some time. you have been sentenced to how long? >> 14 days. jesse: what is your theory about what happened? >> i think i was set up by western intelligence. most of of these meetings i encountered were orchestrated. i don't know by who. but we have evidence one of these meetings was organized by western intelligence and that

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>> president trump is a big favorite of social media. we are going to read some twum tweets. here is my favorite one. the redhead restaurants should focus on cleaning its dirty canopies and windows rather than refusing to serve a fine person like sarah huckabee sanders. greg: filthy canopies. that should be the name of a boat. jesse: he does take pride in the cleanliness and display and presentation of a restaurants. and nothing is worse than calling a restaurant filthy.

greg: when you think of a restaurants as dirty, you can't get that out of your head. greg: i eat nothing but raw pigeon. read one of your favorite trump tweets from this year. greg: while washington-michigan was a big success, washington, d.c. didn't work. everyone is talking about the fact that the white house correspondents dish was a very big, boring bust. i was very touched. and i think he's right. but i don't think i would dod the gig. you never leave the gig better off than you were before. it doesn't help. jesse: your jokes would probably

go over their heads. your humor ties high brow. one of my other favorites. crazy joe biden is trying to act like and tough guy. but he's weak mentally and physically. and yet he threatens me for the second time with physical assault. he doesn't know me. but he would go down fast and hard crying all the way. greg: this is an art form. don't threaten people, joe. jesse: i like that he's going down fast and hard. greg: the media are good news fire extinguishers. jesse: i agree with that one. that was a good line. jesse: i finally met someone more shameless than myself.

greg: that's true. jesse: alec baldwin who he calls him alex, his dying career was saved by his impersonation of me on snl says that playing me was agony for him. it was also agony for those who were forced to watch. greg: the mistake he makes is on purpose. alex baldwin. it was on purpose. just another little dig. like i don't even know the guy's name. jesse: what's your last one here? greg: the gutfeld monologue is the greatest book ever written with the exception of the art of the deal * which is a great gift form all ages. that read did not happen.

i made it up. i made up a tweet. jesse: you are perpetuating fake news on. "watters' world." greg: i'm planting the thought in the president's head to tweet this then my book sales will skyrocket. i have got to feet jeanine and gregg jarrett. jesse: one of my favorite interviews of 2018. a 30-year-old evicted

have a great night. jesse: 2018 gave america great job numbers with you can employment fallining to a 40-yer low. it also brought us a 30-year-old evicted from his own parents' house after living there rent free for 8 years. you went to college, right? >> briefly. yes. jesse: did you graduate from college. >> briefly means i didn't graduate. i thought maybe you matriculated quickly because of your intelligence. what was your major?

>> i started with engineering and went to business and that didn't work out. jesse: you dropped out of college? >> yes. jesse: why did you drop out of college? >> my academic habits were very poor so i couldn't integrate into the classes very well. jesse: when you dropped out of college, what happened next? >> i started in sales. i had a lot of sales jobs. jesse: what were you selling? >> vacuum cleaners, coupons, retail. jesse: so you had a few jobs, mostly in sales. but does that account for all 8 years? you must have been unemployed for a lot of that time, right? >> i drove delivery which wasn't really a sales job, but i did

customer service. that was a year and a half. mostly sales. jesse: were you making any money at these jobs and saving it or spending it on what? >> i really wasn't saving have much. but i spent on things i needed. like food. conventional things. entertainment, food, gasoline. things like that. what kind of entertainment? >> well, bars. you go to bars wintertainment. or just leisure time. sometimes movies. jesse: do you vote, mike? >> i do vote. jesse: did you vote for president in 2016. >> i did. jesse: would you like to share

who you voted for? >> gary johnson. jesse: somehow that doesn't surprise me. what about gary johnson do you like? >> i like how responsible he is about things. fiscal responsibility is important for the libertarian party. jesse: so fiscal responsibility is something that's important to you. don't you think you might have save sod money and been fiscally responsible in your personal life. >> i didn't think of that. that's a good point. i probably should have bought to bond or something. jesse: we hear mike is still living out on his own. moving from hardly working to working hard. dirt yesterday job star mike rowe shared his view on the

american work ethic. what's your assessment of the american worker today? >> it's nice to finally meet you. i figured our paths would cross eventually. we shot in all 50 states, at least a dozen times apiece. and the big lesson on dirty jobs, at least for the people i met, and i'm generalizing. there was a shared awareness, especially in the states you mentioned, that the people were in on $kind of joke that -- in on some kind of joke other americans weren't in on. the bottom line is there is an absolute disconnect and a lot of it has to do with how we define meaningful work and waste is a good job means in 2018. jesse: when i grew up my father made me do landscaping and

manual labor and hedging and shoveling and planting and moag and working with my hand and getting dirty and sweaty. i had it it at the time, but it made me become a hard working person. that i believe has been lost in today's america. are we ever going to get that back? >> yes, we will. because we have to. if we don't. then the consequences will be so dire that i can't even imagine what it will look like. you are talking about the kind of jobs that typically get presented as character building. obviously you are a man who is not afraid to get his hand dirty. but the real issue in my view is not -- it's actually an appreciation. it's one thing to affirmatively discourage our kids from learning a useful skill.

it's another thing to lose our appreciation for the people who do the kinds of jobs that make civilized life possible for the rest of us. i'm not. >> shrink. but there is something interesting about the way we grow to resent the very thing we wind up depending the most of upon. if you look at the workforce and the jobs available. 6.3 million available jobs. 65% don't require a four-year degree. they require training and certification and a willingness to do something that most of people aren't willing to do. to distance ourselves from the people who are essentially keeping the lights on. that's why we have a skills gap and student loans and lending money to kid who can't pay it

back to teach them to do jobs that don't exist anymore. jesse: i was a bellhop, a valet, and busboy. i learned work is just about serving other people. there is nothing wrong with that no matter at what level. everybody when they are work they are searching the needs or interests and desires of a clients or customer. i was getting my shoes shined in lower manhattan. and it was all latino workers shining the shoes. and they were doing a great job. and it's the best shoe shine place manhattan. people say oh latino workers in america do the jobs americans won't do. do you find that could be true? are americans getting soft? there is no desire to do those times of jobs? or do you see it in a more economical way?

>> again, it's dangerous to generalize, with you in a general way i think what happened in our country is we bought into the idea that our happiness is a result of the job we have. so we make work the enemy. we don't do it on purpose. but when we look at a job like the ones you just describe. we see them as opportunities or cautionary tales. we taught our kid that certain types of jobs are the kind of things you are going to wind up doing if you don't go count well-worn path of the four-year degree and college debt. jesse: you will be work at mcdonald's your whole life if you don't study your school books. >> my foundation trained people in skilled jobs that won't be replaced by robots, plumbers, steam merits, pipe fitters,

welders. these people by and large are making six figures. they didn't do it by amassing a lot of debt. they did it by looking around to see where the opportunities are and staying laid and distinguishing themselves doing things we are tacitly telling people will make them unhappy. why are people unhappy to me is the big question. the reason in my view has very little to do with what they do for money. jesse: toxic masculinity and white privilege collide on. "watters' world." today is the day you're going to get motivated...

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new school told me about male melancholia. >> the way i refer to it is to think about toxic masculinity is when masculinity has to abuse its power to function. jesse: how would i demonstrate on a day-to-day basis toxic masculinity. but it would be in your relationship with other people and with women in the workplace and the way you relate to your own power in the workplace. jesse: by being a jerk and offensive and imposing my will on other people. >> even negotiating your will on other people. the idea that you have to stoke my see go to get ahead. jesse: so white masculinity is a

problem? there is a downfall? how so? >> i don't think there is a loss of power though men are always lamenting their loss of power. even president trump who is lamenting the good old days, and a show like "mad men. ." jesse: when the president says make america great again is he wants to return to the old days when men ruled the earth. >> there is a mourning and loss over what has been lost. jesse: couldn't the president say let's go back to the 80s when the economy was roaring and we were doing great? maybe it's more about let's go back to when america was strong

and powerful and america was great. jesse: but you don't know when trump says make america great again. you brought up that he wanted to go back. >> these are old narratives that don't just refer top national politics. when you are talking about nation building you are talking about a lot of multi dimensional things. jesse: i did not take that from what the president said when he uses that slogan. so what do white men need to do in america now. how can we improve, in your opinion. >> to me the crisis is about the lack of responsibility and self-interrogation. the root of crisis means at which change must come. what needs to happen is men start doing some of the work and

interrogation as opposed to special interest groups. jesse: i'm a white man. what do i need to ask myself. what do i need to address internally about my white male? >> what kind of privileges have i inherited because of my whiteness and straight masculinity. jesse: white privilege? >> and it has to do with masculinity. we all have to ask that question. jesse: you want white men to recognize that they have certain advantages by being born a white straight male. >> that they use. jesse: and i as a white straight male should be more conscious of my privileges when i go walk around in everyday society.

i walk into a bar as a straight white male. am i being too confident when i walk into the bar? should i be humble. >> i just know men can behave a certain way in public settings and bars that is different from women. this is the case for everyone. there are codes we are following. even if we just go to work. jesse: if i'm loud and obnoxious and women can't do that. >> they might do it but they pay a different price for it. you may not be seen as someone desperate as a single man walk into a bar. but if a woman is single and walks into a bar that's seen as a different gesture. jesse: so what question am i supposed to ask myself?

>> you have interrupted me so many times now i can't remember. i spoke to warren bloomenfield, aned a junk professor at massachusetts university at amherst about the controversy of christian privilege. there isn't christian privilege in the middle east. >> we are talking about the united states. but there is christian privilege around the world in many ways. it's not bashing christianity. it's raising issues of the ways in which christians automatically have this unearned privilege just by being christian in the united states. there are a lot of ways that privilege manifests itself. in the 19 -- the 1840s, a

theorist went around the united states and he wrote this great book called democracy in america. and he discover twhrd is a paradox that the united states positioned itself around the world as this country which promoted itself as religious pluralism. but he found the christian church had so much power that in many ways it could be considered the first institution of politics because it had so much power and so much weight on politics in the united states. jesse: i don't think anymore that the christian church has that power it's a religiously. you can't say merry christmas at

the courthouse. at school you can't have a christmas tree, they call it a holiday tree. >> we are talking about religious pluralism. the school year kiss founded on the christian calendar. if i want to take a day off -- do you even know what the holiest day is on the jewish calendar? jesse: no, tell me. >> that's a form of christian privilege. you don't have to know other religions of when our holidays are. it's yom kippur which is the dave atonement. so -- it's the day of atonement. i have a privilege of not knowing your most of devout holiday? i feel bad i don't know. listen, there is not a lot of

jewish americans in the country compared to christian americans. i don't know the most of devout muslim holiday either. >> again, we have to know the holidays of christians for our own survival because it's self-promoted. jesse: i don't want christian privilege. i want to be open and know everything about every other person. what can i do as a christian to make myself less privileged. >> i'm not asking you to make yourself less privilege. i'm asking you to share your privilege as a white man. i don't want into a store and be tailed, racially profiled. i'm not saying i want to lose that. i'm working as a white person so

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>> put your hand right here on the horse. nice deep breath in. jesse: okay. that's good. no teeth. >> you can do it. jesse: okay. jess require's no secret i'm not a big animal lower. but times you just need to lean in. i did exactly that with the newest trend taking the country by storm, goat yoga. >> we'll start in a mounting pose. hand down to your side and feel grounded here. you want to feel rooted down into the ground. take a deep breath through your

nose. >> i smell goat. take a nice deep inhale. on your next inhale leach the harms up overhead. on exhale whole i'd all down. once you are there we are going to plant our palms down to the mat. take a breath, inhale. on your next exhale we'll lower the body down to the mat, nice and slow. untuck your toes. we'll come to co-bra so press

through the palms and press the chest forward. jesse: what are the goats suppose to be doing right now. >> make you happy. exhale slowly, lower the heart all the way down. jesse: is this goat wearing a diaper? >> sink your toes back to your heels. you can walk your fingertips forward, let your ford rest on the mat. start to make your way to a table top position. we are going to go through a few rounds of cow cat or goat cat. jesse: when are we going to do

downward goat. we are going to press back to down yard facing dog. >> oh that hurts. something about these animals got me hooked. i got a dog this year i can't believe i did. his name is rookie and he's adorable like me.

jesse: it creased to amaze -- it ceased to amaze me how littled the average american tbhoas our country. house the vice president? >> i don't know and i really don't care. >> oh, my god. jesse: name one state that borders canada. >> ohio? >> new york city. >> massachusetts? >> north carolina. >> not california. jesse: what does the cia stand for? >> that i do not know. >> i would guess constitution but i will guess that's wrongs. jesse: that's wrong. who was the first person to set foot on the moon. >> david wright? jesse: that was the baseball player.

jesse: that's all for this year. have a happy 2019. i know i will. "justice with judge jeanine" is next. remember i'm wattersssssssssssss hide orld. [♪] judge jeanine: welcome to a very special justice tonight. a look back at president trump's year and a look forward to 2019 and beyond. i'm push *. thank you for being with us. this our first "justice" with a studio audience. they will be taking part and asking questions throughout the show. if you would like to take part at home. tweet your comments at judge jeanine. we have a fantastic lineup of guests. we'll surprise you everybody block andou