♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." there is a new congress here in washington. but the government shutdown continues as before. the stalemate over border wall funding entered its third week. each sideir betting the other will give in first. negotiations continue at the white house today but apparently they bore no fruit. because afterwards the president emerged to say the situation on the southern border is so grave he may be forced to b build a wall without congressional approval. >> have you considered using emergency powers to grant yourself authority to build this wall without congressional approval? and second -- >> yes, i have. >> you have?

have., i i can do it if i want. >> so you don't need congressional approval? >> no. we can call a national emergency because of the security of our country. absolutely. no, we can do it. i haven't done it. i may do it. i may do it! but we can call a national emergency and build it very quickly. >> tucker: democrats call that extremism. but who are the extremists here? the one who refuse to defend their country. the speaker of the house said they h will never allocate a single tax dollar to build a border wall. not because it's tooey expensive, these are the democrats. but a wall would violate a previously unknown and never explained moral code. watch. >> the fact is a wall is an immorality. it's not who we are as a nation. it's an old way of thinking. >> tucker: it's tempting to assume that the speaker must have misspoken there. but it's hardly the first time she said it.

"immoral." "immorality." she used the words repeatedly. pelosi is the highest ranking democrat in the united states. the leader of her party. so we should not blow it off. we should take it seriously. as a matter of policy, democrats believe a border wall is immoral. that raises the question, what do they consider moral? well, american troops stuck forever in syria, for one thing. that is just fine. sex-selective abortions paid for with tax dollars. can't get more moral than that. and antifa rioting in the street, all perfectly moral. walls can be moral in the right circumstances but can't protect america. democrats gladly signed off reported offenses for israel, egypt, and jordan. no problem. but here, on behalf of our own people, no.. americans don't deserve that. they are immoral for asking. those are the parameters to the morality. so what religion is this exactly? joining is not to explain those

as an attorney, radio host, former aide to senator chuck schumer, and he joins us tonight. so if you would -- i think we talked about this before. nancy pelosi repeatedly called the wall immoral. at first, i thought she talks a lot and sometimes you misspeak. i know the feeling. but this is a talking point. this is something she sang officially. but now she is saying something as the leader soofficially of the party. sos the democrats believe border walls are immoral. what does that mean? >> i don't think she means it in the good versus evil typepe of morality,it but rather this s a colossal waste of money since a ladder and a rope can beat a wall. >> tucker: let me interrupt you. i don't want to interrupt. i promise i will let you finish. i just want to back up a little better. what other sense of immoral is there? by definition immoral describes something not moral. in the scheme of morality, a religious precept. a what does itit mean? how is the wall immoral?

>> look, i don't think she means it in a good versus evilr: religious way. >> tucker: what other way is there? >> this is a colossally stupid thing to build when a guy with a ladder and a foot taller and a rope to get out on the other side will be dead. >> tucker: keep going. a a speaker to borrow the nra's argument, though, if we put a wall up to block illegal -- people who come here to want to harm us -- people who come here illegally will be the only ones who are stopped here by the wall. people coming here illegally will figure out a way around it like they figure out a way to get guns. >> tucker: so they will get their own -- i think i'm following you. they will get their own wall and buy a wall on the black market and bring the wall to our wall and beat it?an is that what you are saying? just to continue the metaphor. >> no, no. law abiding people will be stopped by the wall but people who wish to break our laws will avoid the wall. that is the right argument for everything --- >> tucker: i'm trying to -- >> it should be accepted here,

too. >> tucker: i'm trying to take you seriously. is that also true in prison surrounded by walls? walls meant to keep lawbreakers in? do they not work? >> a prison is a couple of acres. you have sentries point to monitor the wall. the president is talking about thousands of miles of wall. do we have centuries every hundred feet to watch the wall? >> tucker: i don't know. >> tucker, we would be better off with the modern technology and use the drones and other things to monitor the border and make sure it's backed up by the appropriate border patrol. >> tucker: i'm trying to be reasonable. >> it doesn't make sense. >> tucker: we both know you are in favor of more people coming here illegally and i'm not. that is the f actual debate. >> i'm not. i'm not in favor of anybody comingm here illegally. >> tucker: of course we are not. i want to drill down a little bit on the idea of morality. i think it's important. when the leader of a political party calls the other side immoral, it's not a small thing.

i just want to understand. the same day she said that, she pushed to allow taxpayer dollars from the united states to go abroad to fund abortions in latin america, among other places.. so you are saying it's immoral to keep latin america out with a wall but it's not immoral to pay for latin american abortions? that is what nancy pelosi is saying. do you agree with that? >> we would need a couple of hours to discuss the moralty of action -- morality of the action of choice. >> tucker: how about just an answer? >> i'm pro choice. i won't push -- >> tucker: is it immoral to pay for abortions in other countries? i'm just wondering, seriously. >> tax dollars do not pay for abortions in other countries. >> tucker: they are trying to change that. >> so it will never go that way. debating whether or i not that s moral or immoral, that's a longer conversation. we probably got about a minute and a half left. >> tucker: hold on. i'm not asking you to conduct theology here. i'm just asking you for your review.

the two things, taxpayer money for-selected abortion, which nancy pelosi is for, or building a wall? which one is a moral? >> i don't believe that she is for sex-selective abortions. >> tucker: yes, she is. yes, she is. >> that is an overreach of what she is for. >> tucker: in fact she is. >> the more moral use of the funding for the wall is to fix bridges and roads crumbling in the country that need repair and spend a couple of bucks on doorbells for the border securityuc if you're worried about it. it's not as big of a problem. what is immoral is the president making a problem that doesn't exist. >> tucker: really quick. at the same tame, again, that she was pushing against america's ability to defend the borders and for more taxpayer funded abortions in other countries, she's also pushing for more foreign aid for countries some of which would go to border security. we funded with her approval border security and walls in a bunch of other o countries. why were those not immoral but our wall is immoral? >> well,mm when we talk about

the israeli wall, and other countries that have walls like that, they are in a constant state of the war with the neighbor. we are not in a state of war with mexico. >> tucker: that's not true. speakeris we are not having a crisis at the border. people are not lobbing bombs into our country from mexico. they are the biggest trading partner. >> tucker: i understand that. there are a number of barriers in israel, some of them are designed to keep terrorists from coming in. i don't think anyone would question the right to do that. good for them. but there is also a border on the southern border of egypt designed to keep immigrants from africa out of their country. i think it's israel's right to build the wall. i wouldn't contest that. i don't have a problem with it. but nancy pelosi doesn't have a problem with it either. that wall is not immoral. but our wall is immoral. i honestly don't understand that. what is the answer? >> you know, we are a nation of immigrants. it makes us great and gives us competitive edge with the rest of the world. if the president and his party want to change that, that

should be what they should talk about. but what they are doing demagoguing about a invisible threat that does not exist at the southern border. it's time to stop that and have a discussion about security.t >> tucker: how many people are here illegally in the united states? do you know? >> i would think over 10 million. 10 to 14 million. >> tucker: try over 20. this is an estimate from the ivy league researchers. does it seem like a lot? does it seem like the current border security is working? over 20 millionn people? >> it seems like a lot. it seems like a lot. 90% of those people, tucker, did not cross the southern border. >> tucker: how do you know that? speaker they overstayed her visa. they may have come here on a plane or a boat. >> tucker: you don't know that! you don't even know how many are here! how do you know how they got here? [laughs] >> i wasn't prepared for that question. >> tucker: seems like a basic question.

>> buter every ivy league studyi have read shows, every ivy league study i read about the topic says the same thing. most people who are here illegally overstayed their visas. building a wall at the southern border is not going to change that. it's a waste of money. if you believe a waste of money is immoral, then it is immoral. >> tucker: we are just guessing that it's not going to work. maybech you are right. we'll see. .chris, thank you very much. >> all right. thank you, tucker. have a good one. >> tucker: thanks. well, a new member ofnk congress, a democrat, made a sincere but a vulgar promise about herin party's agenda going into the congress. lisa boothe has the latest on that after the break. ♪ chicken?! chicken.

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>> tucker: democratic leaders downplayed the odds they will try to impeach the president. i will never happen. you are being paranoid! that's what they said before the election. turns out, what we knew allw along is true. they may not in the end be able to contain their party's own base. retreated to leave as a newly elected democratic congress remote from the of michigan. at a thursday night event hosted by moveon.org, she delivered a vulgar promise about what her party would accomplish ahis year. watch this. >> when your son looks at you and said mama, look, you won. bulliesou don't win. i said, baby, they don't. we're going to go in there and we are going to impeach the [bleep]! [cheers and applause] >> tucker: she's impressive. the amazings thing is the moveon.org was founded -- i remember when this happened -- to oppose impeachment of bill clinton 20 years ago. huh. interesting. times change. lisa boothe is following the

story and joins us tonight. hey, lisa. >> there is a little bit of irony. she said this at a moveon.org event. obviouslyy started to encourage congress to censure and move on. she does not want to do that with president trump. so little bit of irony there. this is not the first time shehe called for president trump's impeachment either. she tweeted about this a month ago as well. clearly this is something she fully believesly in. >> tucker: it's so interesting that a group like moveon.org, which started with some principle behind it, is completely dishonest without any principles at all. it's like, whatever it takes to achieve power, we're for. does anyone ever say that? >> no, they don't. we are only in the first -- this is the first week, not even a full week of the 116th congress. >> tucker: [laughs] >> this is what happened this week. you have comments from rashida

tlaib. jonathan, compared president trump to hitler. another member of congress introduce legislation to abolish the electoral college. another one that brought forth articlesr of impeachment. it's been a banner week for democrats, not even the first full week in congress. this is what we are facing for next two years. buckle up. >> tucker: i don't know if you followed up on the story. hank johnson from atlanta, the democrat from atlanta, said in a hearing he worried guam the island might capsize, flip over, if too many american troops were placed on one end of it. did guam ever capsize? did you know? did you ever fall follow that ? >> i did some research and it did not. >> tucker: not all fears come true. >> his foreshadowing was off there. [laughter] >> tucker: i kind of like hank johnson. i can't help myself. lisa boothe, it is so great to see you, as always. >> good to see you, too, tucker. bye. >> tucker: we often hear people say donald trump driven the american left crazy. that is a talking point obviously. but also increasingly true.

not justra figuratively crazy, meaning zany or eccentric or red in the face mad. but actually crazy. meaning delusional, needs help,c dangerous to self and others. here's a guy called donnie deutsche reading aloud from a dream journey on msnbc, keep in mind as he watched d this, he can appears o be completely serious. >> this is all that donald has left. this wall is not a wall. it's let's keep america white again. something that talks the 39, 40, 41% base that says the black man, jewish man, banker man coming to take your life. you are not in the position you are in because of you, it's because of everything else. that is all he has left. >> tucker: take your wife? that was bizarre. what does it mean? who m knows. much easier to interpret is rick wilson. wilson is a semiobscure consultant who was held just enough low-level political jobs that cable television producers

can bill him as a republican strategist. wilson seems to spend most of his life opining in a shout fest that the other channel specializes in. he is often shouting the loudest. notable, likeson so many on the left, he moved on from hating trump to hating people who voted for trump, which is to say a lot of the country. this is wilson last night on cnn. >> the wall has always been a con for donald trump's credulous, rude, tin-tooth base. the wall has always been a scam. it has always been a lie. nothing about the wall has ever been real. and donald trump knows it. it seems to work with his base. because they believe it over and over again that nothing will stop the n brown horde except the wall. >> tucker: pays ten toothpaste. imagine mocking people who can't afford to fix afford to fix their rotting teeth. there are a lot of people who

did vote for trump in the hope he would care about them or not rub their faces in the poverty. what a cruel and awful thing to say. does it occur to him that maybe people who lose their teeth because of cheaper dental care? maybe washington could help with that. no. it's easier to make fun of them and get rich doing it, something that wilson specializes in. >> the picture of the cruelty of the administration is deliberate. their core supporters want anyone who is darker than a latte deported. >> tucker: oh, so not only are those poor, toothless americans too. they are racist now, they are bad people. it's okay not to care about them. they can die young of diabetes and overdoses and we can feel fine about it. rick wilson can keep taking pictures of himself inside private airplanes, secure the knowledge that the dummies with bad teeth deserve everything they get. they are immoral, unlike rick

wilson. victor david hanson is a fellow at the hoover institution and he joins us tonight. presser, thanks very much for coming on.wh i keep noting this phenomenon where the further behind middle america, rural america, falls, the longer, you know, the death rate continues to rise, the life expectancy continues to fall. the more the people in charge hate rural america, they hate the people who are suffering the most. why is that? >> i don't know. i'm speaking from rural america and i can telll you that it's phenomenal when you see concrete evidence and the empirical fashion of when you have the 3% annual g.d.p. growth or record low peacetime unemployment or 300,000 jobs created in a year. that's a moral act, tucker. the latino population, i live in a community that is 90% latino. is at the record lows. you can see it. people are up. they are working, they have more

disposable income. but rather than fixate on that or critique it, we get back to not only is trump a nazi, both of the clips, the speakers, called trump and supporters in the past nazi-like, but this is an attack on people. i thought that was the purpose of the politically correct movement. you don't stereotype an individual by demonizing an entire group. we got to remember this is not new, tucker. all wilson was doing is rechanneling, i think his name was caputo, a political reporter, three or four months ago, went to a rally to say one person had more teeth than everybody in the rally. you remember peter strozk sayingu he went to a southern virginia walmart and could smell the trump reporter. there is another f.b.i. person that said the trump reporters were p.o.s. pieces of blank. this is the underbelly of the deplorables, the irredeemable and clingers that obama and clinton used.

it's really ironic because they are very elite themselves. they think that by making fun of the poor white and mostly poor white working class people, that earns them their an exemption of their own privilege as being privileged, elite white people. wilson called jewish people termites, channeling farrakhan. and they believe they are exemption because they have the victim status and they can say whatever they want. it's a sad commentary when the entire political correct movement was designed to not use offensive speech and stereotype people. turns out to be nothing to do with the principle but power all along. >> tucker: you are a historian. have you ever seen revolution aimed at theel people below? aren't most revolutions from below trying to take power fromo the people in charge? this this is like people in charge suppressing the people that don't have power. >> yeah.

i think what we have, we have a versailles aristocracy. they are worried that people outside the gates of bursae are getting restless. we actually saw this in france. i think they understand whatever they were doing, that was a devotion to the globalization. optional wars overseas, stagnant economy. the green initiative that was hurting people in the middle. a lot of people were hurt by it. we created two americas. they are on the winning coast and they had to develop some e type of reason to explain why people in the middle were not doing well. rather than saying the jobs were outsourced or we were offshoring or neglecting the manufacturing, they came up with a self-fulfilling prophecy. they don't have teeth. they stink. they are not educated. they are worried about the manhood.to that explains, you know, "a" to "z" why they are not doing as well as people in malibu or the upper west m side. people are sick of it. they're hypocrites.

rick wilson went around in 2012 in a red pickup and bragged he carried a knife and he was going to connect with the real people and help mitt romney get over his isolation on wall street. whatever, if it paid better they would do something else. if barack obama wanted to build a wall, and he did at one time, as did hillary clinton, they would say the wall is the greatest thing since sliced bread. it's political prostitution. it's sad because we have a revolutionary economic and foreign policy cycle going on that is helping millions of people. if they don't like it, they should criticize it on the principle. bring facts. talk about the debt. >>p tucker: stop attacking american citizens. it's totally fine to attack politicians, including trump, by the way. but when you turn around and attack tens of millions of your own o countrymen, something is wrong. i think. victor davis hansen, thank you so much. >> i think so, too. >> tucker: great to see you.

>> thank you. >> tucker: bernie sanders could run for president once again. he may. but now the left is mounting a #metoo campaign against him. is it fair? is therehe some other reason they are doing that? after the break we explain. ♪ ultimate feast time it'sat red lobster.r own pick four of ten favorites to create the ultimate feast you've been dreaming of. like lobster mac & cheese. or tender snow crab. so hurry in before new create your own ultimate feast ends. - [voiceover] this is an urgent message from the international fellowship of christians and jews. there is an emergency food crisis for elderly holocaust survivors in the former soviet union.

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>> tucker: no secret cities are the economic hub of america now. 150 years ago young people

>> tucker: it's no secret that cities are the economic hub of america now.r. 150 years ago, young people looking for opportunity settled the frontier. new york, san francisco, boston and walk. in fact, those four cities accounted for the majority of the places last year graduating class at harvard went. why? that is where the jobs are. rural counties are shrinking. so that is a success for the cities. correct? but there is another side to it. cities may have the jobs for young people but they don't offer the life that america used to give children. homess are much more expensive. public schools are often awful. almost always awful. if the jobs pay more, it's not enough to offset rising cost of healthcare and servicing student loans.lt as a result of this, something dramatic and not often noted happening in the american cities.ng even though that is where the young people live, nobody in the cities is having children. birthrates are falling everywhere in america with the most dramatic drop by far has been in the urban areas. according to the c.d.c., from 2007-2017, birthrates in major cities fell by almost 20%.

at this point, the city of san francisco has more pet dogs than it has children. if this continues, if the trend persists, it doesn't matter how many jobs it has. if society can't reproduce itself, it has, by definition, failed. our cities are failing by the most basic measure and no one is paying attention. we are, though. bernie sanders may run for president again this year. but before that campaign can begin, the media are targeting him over the deeds he apparently committed in 2016. not policy decisions made. but #metoo matters. a series of "new york times" reports accuses the sanders campaign of having a toxic,f sexist atmosphere where the women were routinely mistreated without any consequences. asked about this recently, sanders said he didn't know. he was busy trying to become president. >> i am not going to sit here and tell you that we did

everything right in terms of human resources, in terms of addressing the needs i'm n hearing now that women felt disrespected, that there was sexual harassment which was not dealt with as effectively as possible. >> you seem to say that you did not know at the time about the allegations. is that correct? >> yes. t i was a little bit busy running around the country trying to make the case. >> tucker: allie beth stuckey is a podcast coast and she joins us tonight. thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: i'm not sure what to make of this. one hand there is an irony story that the progressive campaign had an environment that women felt threatened by. on the other hand, you have to wonder, are these stories plants from another democratic campaign? what do you think this is? >> i'm not sure about that. i think this is a sad situation. apparently there are campaign workers who have been bringing this to theri attention of bernie sanders and those around him since 2017. according to them, this is the

first time that they have heard from bernie sanders, actually acknowledging that this was a problem. so i don't think it isis exclusive to his campaign. we know it's not exclusive too his campaign. but there is a special irony in someone like bernie sanders saying, i'm really sorry. i was too busy to worry about harassment when he just very recently made impassioned plea to the president, or to make sure we didn't confirm kavanaugh because he wasn't aug "choir boy." we had to believe all women. it doesn't seem like he has the same consideration for the women on his staff. >> tucker: what kind of answer is that in 2019? when exquisite sensitivity is required to say, you know, i was busy. i had other priorities. are you allowed to say that, particularly if you're a progressive standard bearer like bernie sanders? i was busy. is that adequate? >> certainly not.

certainly if you are making accusations against someone else he has. this is a generalization we see from manyio progressives that the #metoo movement is more of a conservativeov problem, that we are the ones perpetuating the toxic masculinity and the patriarchy and it doesn't seem to be true. no, i don't think it was an adequate answer. hopefully he will be held accountable for that. >> tucker: you whenever you go into a policy debate assuming you are a good person, you wind up excusingd your own crappy behavior. i never assume i'm a good person. i just want to get to the right answer. jill abramson, the person who ran "the new york times" for a while, has a new book out, and in it, she recounts this moment when the publisher off the paper wrote a letter of apology to the fascist government of china after the "new york times" written a story about corruption in china. there is no indication that the story that the paper wrote was false. the problem was it was it offended powerful leaders in

china. so in the letter, the "times" apologized for "the perception" that the story created about the totalitarian hell hole. d i don't know what to say about this. i don't want to believe this is true. but if this turns out to be the case, that the publisher of the "new york times" apologized to the fascist government of china for being rude, is there anything more craven than that? is there anything that contravenes the basic principles of journalism more than that? >> if it is true, and she alleges that it is, the publisher was embarrassed outed by her that he had written the letter all by apologizing because he wanted to keep the site a open in china.ec the "new york times" is still banned in china. he wanted to make sure it wasn't the case. this is maybe not him exactly but this is the same- kind of price that president trump and people over here are shutting down a free press, you can't simultaneously say that and the

then -- >> tucker: we lost her. she was on a roll. she was absolutely right. you have to wonder if that story is true, why didn't "the times" report on it at the time? by the way, i think around the time this happened, the kid at the mediat reporter at cnn was the media reporter at the "new york times." did he report on that? i don't remember reading that. you are back. why didn't the "new york times" report on this? if the editor knew that the publisher was sucking up to this totalitarian government on behalf of the paper, i never saw a mention of it in the papers pages. did you? >> right.s. we don't know. we have also seen that abramson said they are passionately anti-trump. they have also denied that. we know that's true. they just seem to not be able to take on that self-awareness. butaw if they are the stringent reporters and the journalists fighting for the facts then they should own the misdeed of

apparently the one publisher to acquiesce censorship. >> tucker: the paper is a joke. i wish that weren't the case. there are smart people there but in general it's garbage. it's sad. allie, hacked by china mid-segment. thank you for coming on. >> that's what it was. must have been. >> tucker: appreciate it. >> thank>> you. >> tucker: well, you remember parkland deputy scott peterson? he did nothing to stop mass shooter nikolas cruz. he hid outside. he was allowed to keep his massive pension. over $100,000 a year in taxpayer money for life anyway. why did that happen? we will tell you after the break. d ♪

♪ >> tucker: one of the most dreadful and the frustrating parts of theru horrific school shooting that took place in parkland, florida, was the role played by the police deputy called scott peterson. peterson was armed and right on the scene but because of cowardice, stayed where he was and he didn't go to the scene. despite this, clearly a dereliction of duty, peterson was not t fired. he now draws over $100,000 a year in pension. now we have a hint to why. correspondent matt finn, fox's expert on parkland and he covered it extensively for us last year. he joins usly tonight. matt, good to see you. >> tucker, this week the stoneman douglas commission released a scathing 450-page report. the investigators on the commission interviewed hundreds of people and pored over massive amounts of evidence and determined that the school resource officer, scott peterson's, response was, "abysmal." and that law enforcement's response overall was a failure. and that the massacre would

not have happened if the shooter nikolas cruz's mental health issues were adequately addressed. also this week, the latest in a series of reports questioning how disgraced parkland school resource officer scott peterson was able to retire with full benefits, six-figure salary even though he was caught on tape standing by outside.. instead of rushing in the parkland school to stop the shooter from murdering more students. a 2014 school incident report filed by the school resource officer, scott peterson, might hold the answer. the report indicates that peterson's boss, broward county sheriff scott israel, had a son who was a student at stoneman douglas. according to the incident report, assisted in battery and perhaps sexual assault against a fellow student. peterson called for the sheriff's son to be suspended, instead of referring him for criminal prosecution. perhaps a favor sheriff scott israel never forgot. parents consulted said they were okay without the law enforcement action because they felt it would cause trauma to their son.

the sheriff's office confirmed it received our request for a comment on the story. we did not hear back. next week,k, governor elect ron desantis will be sworn into office and he has alreadydy indicatednd he is considering suspending sheriff scott israel. tucker? >> tucker: long overdue. matt finn, thank you very much. jeff bales, the president of the broward county sheriff deputies association. he joins us tonight. thank you veryry much for coming on. >> thank you. >> tucker: the last part of matt finn's report, also corroborated by a long piece this morning, great piece in the real clear politics, to suggest that there is at least an appearance of quid pro quo between sheriff israel and this deputy peterson. it's corrupt if true. do you believe that is what happened? >> there is absolutely the appearance that there was improprieties of how the case was handled. all day, every day. absolutelymade is a felony that is alleged to

have happened to that victim. deputy peterson took the report, which he should have, and he did complete offense report. but in the body of the report, he described t the felony as a misdemeanor to justify it to fit under the promise program to allow the sheriff's son to skate any type of criminalny prosecution or severe punishment. and it was allowed to be referred into the promise program where he was then issued three-day h school suspension instead of a felony on his record, which is what should have been the, outcome of the case.>> >> tucker: peterson's behavior, you know, whatever the truth of what we are talking about, peterson's behavior on the scene of the shooting that day is especially infuriating to the law enforcement officers ing know personally because it's such a perversion of the duty of a law enforcement officer, which is to protect the publicce with courage if necessary. do you think it's odd he wasn't fired for that? >> tucker, what we see from within the broward sheriff's office is completely different from what the average person

on the outside sees looking into our office. we, as the employees, realize there are numerous problems within the sheriff office that encourage bad behavior by the command staff and encourage the behavior by the people inside the school, juveniles getting away with arrest. it seems like the deputies are punished more for the actions than what the criminals get through the juvenile justice system. this is why we made recommendations to the governor we need to get tough on juvenile crime. in theory, the promise program keeps kids out of prison. but we are not arresting juveniles or showing them there are consequences for the actions. we are creating a pipeline for those kids to go into prison instead of staying out of prison because we are not showing them consequences for their actions. >> tucker: what about the other kids that want to learn something and go to college? what is their experience like going to school with kids who

are out of control? >> those are the true victims in this program. k you have a small percentage ofn the kids that go to school on a daily basis that disrupt the school system. good teachers cannot teach in the classroom because they are constantly spending 90% of the time with 3% of the population of the school. if they cannot refer kids to the law enforcement, because they are forbidden to tell police officers on campus if there is a crime or not, and then the school administrator will take a decision whether to make report to a police officer. if they do, they take at it step further where each child allowed four criminal offenses per school year before we are allowed as the deputies to act on reasonable suspension and probable cause. that is the main problem with the public school system today. we have school administrators dictating to deputies, law enforcement officers, what reasonable suspicion and probable cause is. we need to remove politics out of law enforcement. let the law enforcement personnel do their job.

to keep our kids safe.ir otherwise we will see this tragedy again and again and again.s >> tucker: i suspect scott israel is not helping. thank you very much. it's great to see you. i appreciate that. >> thank you. >> tucker: america's borders remain open. tonight. its middle class in decline. the military greatly overstretched. meanwhile, the media are on top of it. nancy pelosing which ice cream she prefers. we have the tape. you'll want to stay for it.wh ♪ (woman) candace, two minutes.

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>> tucker: well, there isn't just one drug >> tucker: well, there isn't just one drug crisis going on in america at the moment. there is one you read about. drug overdoses mostly be opioid. fentanyl plays a big part. those have been rising for years and killys more every year than the entire vietnam war did over a decade. so there is that. it's horrible and it needs more attention. but theree is another drug crisis going on. it may not be as deadly but worrying b and no one mentions it. at this moment, more than one in six t american adults is on some kind of psychiatric drug. among americans over the age of 12, one in eight take antidepressants. a 65% increase compared tos. 19. 20 years ago. among women, 16.5% are now on antidepressants. one in every six women in america is now taking a pill njust to cope with feeling miserable.

what is going on? after anti-depresssants, the most common drugs are anti-anxiety medications like xanax. these drugs are typically very addictive and abusive them have soared. try to get off of them, you can die from withdrawal. people do. frenzy for the brain pills is hitting kids as well. almost 10% of all american children diagnosed with something called adhd by the age of 17. half of those kids, fully half, one in 20 nationally, take medication for it and some of the drugs are powerful, more than we realize. one of the most famous anti-adhd drugs is adderall. an addictive amphetamine. banned in japan. rarely prescribed in europe. but in america, millionst receive diagnosis and received it. since it can improve focus, there is an upside, adderall is routinely abused by students to help with academic performance and adults for demanding jobs. forget using coffee in the

morning.er in this country, millions of people take amphetamines to adequately service the market. is it making the country happier or making the country more sane? of course not. the proof is in the numbers. the suicide rate is highest itof has been in half a century and still climbing. among those who haven't taken their own lives, self-reported happiness is lower thang. it was a decade ago. this is particularly true in our country. this is not something happening worldwide. they looked at the antidepressant use in 25 wealthyy countries and the u.s. was far ahead of every other except for iceland. another study compared american children with german and dutch kids. american children take three times as many psychotrophic drugs to fight adhd and twice as many antipsychotic drugs. we don't have data for every country worldwide, but it seems possible that american children and adults are the most medicated group in the world. why is this happening and is the country doing anything

about it? to the extent that the country is, we look for a new drug to fix our problems. legalizing marijuana is very popular. a lot of republicans are behind it. the obvious downsides are suppressed.s. politicians rave about the tax revenue. the advocates discuss this at posted medical benefits of marijuana. there may be, there probably are. but there are downsides. once it's illegalized everywhere there will be another drug that is touted as the fix. we are already seeing that with micro-dosing for lsd. at some point, we begin to wonder is it america's brains sick or something bigger going on? maybe a problem with the society. pyeverywhere you look, things that make people happy are vanishing. miles per hours have fewer close friends, getting married less, fewer children, some are having no children because they can't afford it in a lot of cases. the families are smaller and they live farther away. confidence of government,ey

also declining, people feel like they look control over the lives. demographic change means many americans don't recognize where they grew up. their own towns are unrecognizable. many can't relate to the neighbors and sometimes they can't understand the language. we are told we are not supposed to worry about this, but in real life, people worry about this, and why wouldn't they? and massive obesity ruining public health and causing misery as well. there's a lot of stuff going on. but the point is, instead of addressing the crisises, politicians focus on the economic growth rather than the problems that caused all ofwtbl this in first place. income doubled more than 40 years ago, but are we better off? probably not. maybe we should stop and think about that for a minute. as we said, there is a lot going on in america. so it's the time to ask serious questions of america's leaders, maybe even the new speaker of the house. cnn had a chance to talk to nancy pelosi yesterday. what did they ask? about her ice cream choices. >> she attributes her boundless energy to italian genes. it's certainly not a balanced

diet. dark chocolate and ice cream. chicaros her favorite since she was a little girl. >> the chocolate. not the chocolate chip. the chocolate. i like my chocolate unadulterated. >> that was fascinating.t she likes her chocolate unadulterated. >> no white chocolate or milk chocolate. dark chocolate, period. >> tucker: dan bongino is a former secret service agent, and the author of "spygate: the attempted sabotage of donald j. trump." dan bongino, you have talked a lot about the press hostility toward trump. i'm much less bothered by that than i am by the fawning suck-upperyng we just watched. if the press wasas hostile to everybody in power, i'd be satisfied.sa but to see them suck up to someone who is third in line in succession in this e country, one of the most powerful people in the world, and ask about ice cream at a time like this, what is that? >> remember the beto o'rourke phenomenon in texas.

the left wing media type walked with himre through the rallies and said, beto, you are a rock star! you are a rock star! you are a journalist. you are supposed to report on him, notm, fawning over him. might as well asked pelosi for an autograph after that. and a selfie to put on instagram. what is funny, you are right. i don't care about these soft lifestyle pieces happen all the time. but the problem is, when they happen on donald trump it's always painted to paint him as transactional. and greedy and self-centered. perfectf- example. you want to talk ice cream? let's talk turkey and ice cream now. remember the ice cream story with trump? trump gets tworu scoops of ice cream and everybody else at the table that he is around gets one. thisth is one of the dumbest stories. we were all dumber for having heard it. it's similar thing, when it's a lifestyle story about trump it's meant to paint him as a

self-centered jerk. but it's probably not accurate. it's stupid. >> tucker: i couldn't help it. we called over to the weird kid at cnn who does the media criticism.s and we asked the simple question. his puppet. we asked an obvious question. is this journalist? he didn't get back to us. but why not, again, if you are going to be hostile to one side, why not say we have a permanently hostile posture toward people in power. we'll grill all of them. wouldn't you feel like that had integrity? >> i know the guy you are talking about. he watches fox news all day. i want to thank you for watching. he always tweets about it. he tweets when i'm on, too. so that is really terrific. i know you get this, so i don't want to sound -- i hope you didn't take it as condescending at all. but these are people who have grown up in left wing academia and surrounded themselves with the left wing media bubble type. i geuninely don't think that they think any of this is unusual at all. like, nancy pelosi is a good person just because she is.us we have been indoctrinated

around the liberal nonsense that it is the default position. trump is the automatic skelator to he-man because t we're told the he-man is the good guy the whole time. so they don't think it's unusual. they think nancy pelosi, this is great. t chocolate ice cream story. she's wonderful. we should all do this professionally to make her look good. this is what we are supposed toup do. >> tucker: i keep wondering if these are people who are the short-term horizons. not long-term thinkers. most in the media, to be honest. at some point trump will be gone.ho presidencies don't last forever. no matter what happens. we'll have another president at some time. what about the press? is anybody ever going to trustst "the washington post" again? i mean it's not a real newspaper anymore. what are they going to do when this iss over? >> yeah, that is a good point. you say trust them again. i don't know when we trusted them recently. in the last few decades we have seen a general demunition among the credibility. i wondered about the start, in

i wondered about the start, ined the last line of work, i traveled with the media and they act in the acting environment. media people can't even do journalism. why do we take their opinion on economic, healthcare, economic, education policy. them an expert? i'm really not sure. this is a serious question. if anyone in the media wants to tweet to me. >> tucker: you are right. >> i'm wondering. >> tucker: let me ask you quick. we arere almost out of time. we did a segment. a guy called rick wilson, and i never met him, and he was attacking trump supporters for not having good dental work. do you know this guy? >> i have the unfortunate displeasure ofe interacting with him often on twitter. he's a tier one level loser. i don't know what to tell you. that's probably not the most elegant way too say it. he o is known attacking people. he made a target of me in the past. >> tucker: attack people but don't attack the poor people for having bad teeth. one of the meanest things i have seen and it enraged me. >> he was on the wrong side of the trump prediction.

>> tucker: i guess. whatever.. that's okay., dan bongino, have the best weekend. >> thanknk you. good to talk too you. >> tucker: thank you. we're done for the week. sadly wish we could keep going. we'll be back monday at 8:00, the show that is sworn enemy ♪ >> sean: welcome to "hannity," busy breaking news night tonight. it was a huge, productive, extraordinarily important 24 hours for president trump and the deranged hate-trump laughedi they are spinning out of control, beyond even my predictions.s. calls for impeachment, vulgar tirades, plans for a 70% federal tax hike. a bill to radically alter the u.s. constitution. it is only day 2 of the democratic-controlled hate trump house of representatives pier the wheels are coming off. it is not a pretty picture. as you watch tonight's