about it, too. dana perino, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: great to see you. we will find out what the president has to say in about eight seconds from now. we will be back tomorrow night 8:00 p.m. the show that's the palms to citigroup think. the president speaks in a moment. hannity right now. >> sean: i can hear the cold. what you need allegra d and antibiotic. and rick coalla. i can hear it. i had it for a month. sean hannity. moments away the president from the united states oval office prime time address about the crisis on our southern border. to get us started we are now joined by fox news chief political anchor, of course "special report" bret baier is with us. bret, we know how the president feels. there has been little negotiation. a lot at stake tonight. >> bret: a lot the a stake, sean, this is the president's first oval office address and with this venue comes a great deal of gravitas. you have think about the big moments in u.s. history. the big speeches delivered behind the resolute desk.

it hasn't been used a lot in recent years, president obama only used it three times if you remember. the oil spill in the gulf. the end of combat operations in iraq and counter-terrorism the way forward that's how president obama used it now president trump is using it to make the case this common sense pitch about the crisis on the border and why he thinks it should be negotiated with the democrats to get the money for his wall question is whether he will make a declaration a national emergency doesn't look like it tonight he will hold it in his back pocket and say it tonight. >> tucker: i think that will probably be likely. this will be ongoing, obviously. until probably the state of the union. we go to the oval office and the president. >> my fellow americans. tonight i am speaking to you because there is a growing humanitarian and security crisis at our southern border. every day customs and border patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal

immigrants trying to enter our country. we are out of space to hold them and we have no way to promptly return them back home to their country. america proudly welcomes millions of lawful immigrants who enrich our society and contribute to our nation. but, all americans are hurt by uncontrolled illegal migration. it strains public resources and drives down jobs and wages. among those hardest hit are african-americans and hispanic americans. our southern border is a pipeline for vast quantities of illegal drugs, including meth, heroin, cocaine, and fentanyl. every week 300 of our citizens are killed by heroin alone. 0% of which floods across from our southern border. more americans will die from drugs this year than were killed in the entire vietnam war.

and in the last two years, ice officers made 266,000 arrests of aliens with criminal records including those charged or convicted of 100,000 assaults, 30,000 sex crimes, and 4,000 violent killings. over the years thousands of americans have been brutally killed by those who illegally entered our country and thousands more lives will be lost if we don't act right now. this is a humanitarian crisis, a crisis of the heart and a crisis of the soul. last month 20,000 migrant children were illegally brought into the united states, a dramatic increase. these children are used as human pawns by vicious coyotes and ruthless gangs. one in three women are

sexually assaulted on the dangerous trek up through mexico. women and children are the biggest victims by far of our broken system. this is the tragic reality of illegal immigration on our southern border. this is the cycle of human suffering that i am determined to end. my administration has presented congress with a detailed proposal to secure the border and stop the criminal gangs, drug smugglers and human traffickers. it's a tremendous problem. our proposal was developed by law enforcement professionals and border agents at the department of homeland security. these are the resources they have requested to properly perform their mission and keep america safe. in fact, safer than ever before. the proposal from homeland security includes cutting

edge technology for detecting drugs, weapons, illegal contraband, and many other things. we have requested more agents, immigration judges, and bed space to process the sharp rise in unlawful migration fueled by our very strong economy. our plan also contains an urgent request for humanitarian assistance and medical support. furthermore, we have asked congress to close border security loopholes so that illegal immigrant children can be safely and humanely returned back home. finally, as part of an overall approach to border security, law enforcement professionals have requested $5.7 billion for a physical barrier. at the request of democrats, it will be a steel barrier rather than a concrete wall. this barrier is absolutely critical to border security.

it's also what our professionals at the border want and need. this is just common sense. the border wall would very quickly pay for itself. the cost of illegal drugs exceeds $500 billion a year. vastly more than the $5.7 billion we have requested from congress. the wall will always be paid for indirectly by the great new trade deal we have made with mexico. senator chuck schumer, who you will be hearing from later tonight, has repeatedly supported a physical barrier in the past along with many other democrats. they changed their mind only after i was elected president. democrats in congress have refused to acknowledge the crisis. and they have refused to provide our brave border

agents with the tools they desperately need to protect our families and our nation. the federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only because democrats will not fund border security. my administration is doing everything in our power to help those impacted by the situation. but the only solution is for democrats to pass a spending bill that defends our borders and reopens the government. this situation could be solved in a 45-minute meeting. i have invited congressional leadership to the white house tomorrow to get this done. hopefully, we can rise above partisan politics in order to support national security. some have suggested a barrier is immoral.

then why do wealthy politicians build walls, fences and gates around their homes? they don't build walls because they hate the people on the outside. but because they love the people on the inside. the only thing that is immoral is the politicians to do nothing and continue to allow more innocent people to be so horribly victimized. america's heart broke the day after christmas when a young police officer in california was savagely murdered in cold blood by an illegal alien who just came across the border. the life of an american hero was stolen by someone who had no right to be in our country. day after day, precious lives are cut short by those who have violated our borders. in california, an air force veteran was raped, murdered,

and beaten to death with a hammer by an illegal alien with a long criminal history. in georgia, an illegal alien was recently charged with murder for killing, beheading, and dismembering his neighbor. in maryland, ms-13 gang members who arrived in the united states as unaccompanied minors, were arrested and charged last year after viciously stabbing and beating a 16-year-old girl. over the last several years, i have met with dozens of families whose loved ones were stolen by illegal immigration. i've held the hands of the weeping mothers and embraced the grief-stricken fathers. so sad. so terrible. i will never forget the pain in their eyes, the tremble

in their voices and the sadness gripping their souls. how much more american blood must we shed before congress does its job? for those who refuse to compromise in the name of border security, i would ask imagine if it was your child, your husband, or your wife whose life was so cruelly shattered and totally broken. to every member of congress, pass a bill that ends this crisis. to every citizen call congress and tell them to finally, after all of these decades, secure our border. this is a choice between right and wrong. justice and injustice. this is about whether we fulfill our sacred duty to the american citizens we

serve. when i took the oath of office, i swore to protect our country. and that is what i will always do so help me god. thank you and good night. >> sean: president trump speaking from the oval office about the crisis on our southern border. and in a few minutes, by the way, senator lindsey graham, house minority leader, kevin mccarthy the great one mark levin will all join us. the president brought up a lot of different things here, including the recent killing of police officer singh and we had on the parents of pierce corcoran last night killed by a drunk driver in knoxville, tennessee. we bring back bret baier. the president also pointed out obviously the drugs being smuggled across the border. he talked about human trafficking. he talked about the human toll, the amount of crime that has been committed that statistics that we have now heard for days. and he also pointed out,

bret, that in 2006 and 2013, people like chuck schumer, hillary clinton, barack obama, many democrats, they supported a border wall. >> that's right, sean. a lot of these democrats have voted for much more, as far as dollar amount, for border security and enhanced border security, including a wall or a fence. in previous comprehensive immigration bills. the president was trying to tug at the heart strings there, obviously, calling it a humanitarian crisis, a crisis of the heart, a crisis of the soul. and making the case that this is important. it's obviously something, as you talked about many times, is something he campaigned on. what democrats will say is that you need to open the government. other people shouldn't feel the pain because we can't come to a conclusion about what a wall should look like or what border security should be. the administration says without this leverage, without this push, democrats would not come to the table and deal on this issue. so, really, who is going to

blink first? that is what we are now waiting for. the next paycheck goes out, as you know, sean, on friday. and that's the first paycheck that will have been missed if the standoff continues. >> sean: look, there are very significant issues here. on an emotional side, when i spoke to the parents last night on this program pierce corcoran 22 years old killed by illegal immigrant. a 5-month-old child will never see his father again. that would be police officer singh. 90% of the heroin coming into america, we talk a lot about the opioid epidemic. that's coming from our southern border. and then, of course, there have been violent crimes. there have been sexual assaults and violence in general. it's not -- it's 98% -- it's not the 98% of people that want an opportunity, but these are real crimes being committed against real americans. >> bret: right. and the democrats will say this is not a crisis we can solve this. and that's the question in the middle of america do people after this speech and after what you will hear from nancy pelosi and chuck

schumer, do they think it's a crisis on the border? enough to continue a shutdown if they can't get to a deal? i think the democrats are focusing on the shutdown, obviously. they are not willing to give president trump money for his wall. you notice that he called it a steel barrier. he talked about other elements that they are trying to negotiate in there. and i think that there is the push that the administration hopes democrats can get over the line with. >> sean: all right. we will get back to bret baier in just a minute. we go back now live to washington as we told you the democrats' response here is senate minority leader schumer and speaker pelosi. >> i appreciate the opportunity to speak directly to the american people tonight about how we can end this shutdown and meet the needs of the american people. sadly, much of what we heard from president trump throughout this shutdown has been full of misinformation and even malice. the president has chosen fear. we want to start with the facts. the fact is on the very

first day of this congress, house democrats passed senate republican legislation to reopen government and fund smart, effective border security solutions. but the president is rejecting these bipartisan bills which would reopen government over his obsession with forcing american taxpayers to waste billions of dollars on an expensive and ineffective wall. a wall he always promised mexico would pay for. the fact is, president trump has chosen to hold hostage critical services for the health, safety and well-being of the american people and withhold the paychecks of 800,000 innocent workers across the nation, many of them veterans. he promised to keep government shutdowns for months or years no matter whom it hurts. that's just plan plain wrong. the fact is we all agree we need to secure our borders while honoring our values. we can build the

infrastructure roads at our powrts of entry. we can install new technology to scan cars and trucks for drugs coming into our nation. we can hire the personnel we need to facilitate trade and immigration at the border. we can fund more innovation to detect unauthorized crossings. the fact is that women and children at the border are not a security threat. they are humanitarian challenge. a challenge that president trump's own cruel and counter productive policies have only deepened. and the fact is president trump must stop holding american people hostage. let's stop manufacturing a crisis, must reopen the government. thank you. senator schumer. >> thank you, speaker pelosi. my fellow americans, we address you tonight for one reason only. the president of the united states having failed to get mexico to pay for his ineffective, unnecessary border wall, and unable to convince the congress or the

american people to foot the bill has shut down the government. american democracy doesn't work that way. we don't govern by temper tantrum. no president should pound the table and demand he gets his way or else the government shuts down. hurting millions of americans who are treated as leverage. tonight, and throughout this debate and throughout his presidency, president trump has appealed to fear, not facts. division, not unity. make no mistake, democrats and the president both want stronger border security. however, we sharply disagree with the president about the most effective way to do it. so, how do we untangle this mess? well, there is an obvious solution. separate the shutdown from arguments over border security. there is bipartisan legislation supported by democrats and republicans to reopen government while

allowing debate over border security to continue. there is no excuse for hurting millions of americans over a policy difference. federal workers are about to miss a paycheck. some families can't get a mortgage to buy a new home. farmers and small businesses won't get loans they desperately need. most presidents have used oval office addresses for noble purposes. this president just used the back drop of the oval office to manufacture a crisis, stoke fear, andy vert attention from the turmoil in his administration. my fellow americans, there is no challenge so great that our nation cannot rise to meet it. we can reopen the government and continue to work through disagreements over policy. we can secure our border without an ineffective, expensive wall. and we can welcome legal immigrants and refugees without compromising safety

and security. the symbol of america should be the statue of liberty, not a 30-foot wall. so our suggestion is a simple one. mr. president, we open the government and we can work to resolve our differences over border security but end this shutdown now. thank you. >> bret: all right, speaker pelosi and senate minority leader chuck schumer, democratic response to the president's oval office address, lindsey graham and others are going to join us in a minute. john roberts clearly the talking point from the democrats was this is a manufactured crisis. and there is legitimate concern about a partial government shutdown and some people not getting their paychecks on time. and i would support, by the way that they get their full amount, even if they didn't work during this period. but, then the president is making the case about in the last two years, 4,000

homicides, 30,000 sex crimes, 100,000 violent assaults and then, of course, 90% of this country's heroin is coming in to this country vis-a-vis our southern border. i guess america's decision tonight are they going to view those statistics as a manufactured crisis or real crisis, and who is going to win the day? this seems to be the argument tonight. >> well, it all depends on who makes the more compelling argument. if you heard there between what the president said and what nancy pelosi and chuck schumer said, the real root of this impasse and this is a fundamental disagreement over how to secure the border. the president believes that you need to have electronics and you need to have personnel. you need to have people on the border there to enforce the law. but you also need a barrier so that you don't have to protect the thousands of miles of southern border cross the united states with a limited force. if you have a barricade, then you are forcing the cross border traffic into certain choke points that you might be better to enforce. the democrats are saying

look we don't need to build a wall. even though as you pointed out with bret baier a short time ago. democrats have voted on at least a couple of occasions for some sort of border barricade. what the president is talking about now looks very much like the fence that runs through much of california. it's a fundamental difference here in philosophy. and the democrats are saying to the president let's pass bills to open government now and then we will deal with your border wall. but the president is fully aware that if he passes a bill open government he is likely going to get nothing from the border wall. because i would highly suspect that nancy pelosi will not allow a capitulation on a border barrier to be one of her first acts as speaker of the house. the president has now got his heels dug in. the democrats have got their deals dug. in the meeting tomorrow afternoon on the so-called big 8 leadership both houses of congress comes over to the white house very interesting and i would hazard a guess it's not going to move the ball much further down the playing field.

shep? >> bret: john roberts outside the white house tonight. joining us now also to react to the president's oval office address to the country tonight, south carolina senator lindsey graham. senator graham you have been around congress both in 2006 you were around when the secure fence act was passed to build 700 miles of wall. never happened. in 2013, they allocated $46 billion for border security. 8 billion to build and repair. and reinforce barriers at the border. and i'm listening to senator schumer and congresswoman pelosi say this is a manufactured crisis. would you say that to police officer singh's family tonight or pierce corcoran's mom and dad that were on this program last night or the families of victims of 4,000 homicides? families? would you say this is manufactured? >> it couldn't be more real to them. this is the most presidential i have seen president trump. it was compelling and everything he said was true.

about 30% of the 2200 miles of border has some form of barrier. there are already walls along the border. we just need to extend those walls where it makes sense. the one thing we have in common, as a member of the senate, speaker of the house, minority leader of the senate and president of the united states, we have a bunch of people guarding us with guns. it's pretty hard to get in the capitol. really hard to get in the white house. all the president is saying i would like to provide more security to the american people. it is a crisis, sean. i have tried to be reasonable and practical, but when it comes to immigration and i'm flabbergasted to hear from my democratic colleagues who have voted for billions of dollars in border security money that this is manufactured. was it manufactured when obama wanted the money? no. why did you give the money to obama and bush if it was a manufactured crisis?

>> sean: i think if you look hillary clinton supported it, chuck schumer supported it, biden supported it. obama supported it. we have had in the last two weeks really high profile incidences, one is officer singh and the other is this young man, his parents were on this show last night. pierce corcoran died illegal immigrant killed him in a drunk driving accident. and the question here is when you add to that the human trafficking, the drug trafficking, and you add to that the violence at the border. and let's assume 98% of people across the border, which i believe, are people that want more freedom and opportunity. >> right. >> sean: we have got to ask ourselves, if we lose 4,000 lives in a two-year period, is that a manufactured crisis? >> to my democratic friends, how many caravans have to rush the border until you believe we have a problem? we have 300,000 people waiting for asylum claims to be adjudicated.

we have 11,000 unaccompanied minors from central america. it costs us $750 a day to house them. only god know what is they go through to get here. illegal immigration is on the rise because our policies are attracting people here. every democrat, you heard from tonight, has voted for border security. but when it comes to trump they say no. so nancy pelosi says end the shutdown. donald trump says secure the border. how about this? let's secure the border then end the shutdown. >> sean: let me ask you, senator, it seems to come down to their argument is and i know it is inconvenient for those furloughed employees. i acknowledge and i can sympathize with them. i know their checks are going to be delayed in some cases. it's a partial government shutdown. essential services are up and running and that constitutes what two thirds to 70% of the government stays hope open. i do want these people furloughed to get back-money, et cetera. the point is the president doesn't take the stand here,

fully, do you see any other path that he can use that he will get the money to stop the crimes from happening on our southern border, the drug trafficking, human trafficking, some criminal elements that want to cross over our border? >> i have been dealing with this since 2006. this is the best chance i have seen to get a deal. the president made a compelling case tonight for more border security. and i think he is right to ask for more money to secure our border. as to the government employees, i'm sorry you are in the middle of this mess. but you will get your back pay. you are going to be fully compensated. miss singh is not going to get her husband back. to say all those people who have lost loved ones from illegal immigration, your loved ones are not coming back. so i am bound and determined to see this thing through. there should be a deal where we secure the border, give the president the wall money he needs, and try to fix other problems like tps reform and maybe do something for the daca population. there is a deal to be had here.

but it's hard to get a deal when people you're dealing with call you a racist because you want a border security wall. give you a dollar and say that's enough. accuse border patrol agents of gassing children when mobs run toward our border. we're dealing with pretty radical people here and we're never going to get a deal until the radicals are set to the side and we get reasonable people to deal with. >> sean: especially considering it was supported by democrats in the past. you are making a good point here. if people want to, as we know, accomplish ice, kamala harris actually said to the former head of ice tom homan suggested that well you know there is a perception that ice is at least in people's minds perceived as the ku klux klan. >> right. >> sean: i was pretty stunned we would talk about brave law enforcement that way. we also watched these officers get pelted with rocks and bottles on two occasions during the migrant caravan and on new year's eve. the bottom line is this: this is the question i think we need to ask tonight. will the wall work?

in huma, arizona, the sheriff said it works. it works. every time it's been tried. >> well, it works in israel. i can tell you, i have been dealing with border security issues for 10 years, plus. every time we build a physical barrier the drug trafficking goes down. illegal crossings go down. there are some places you don't need a physical barrier but there is 700 miles of fencing has been authorized since 2006. we just want to build what we have already agreed to do. and so the bottom line is walls work. but you are dealing with a group of people who see their government as the problem. they see the border patrol agent as the problem, not the mob. they see the ice agent as the problem, not the illegal immigrant they are trying to go after. they see walls as already exist as immoral. you know what i think is immoral, is to accuse people of trying to defend the nation, honestly and working hard and putting their lives at risk of being the problem

and not the coyote, not the drug dealer, not the terrorist. so, if democrats want a fight, they are going to get one. if they want to solve the problem, we will do that too. >> sean: i want to know where your fellow republican senators stand here. because if the argument of the democrats is this is a manufactured crisis, well, that goes against the number of homicides and that two-year period and sex offenses that have taken place in that two-year period and violent acts against americans in that two-year period. then the drug and the human trafficking. the question is here, we're talking about on the one hand we will have some people that work for our government that are inconvenienced. i am sympathetic to that. >> i'm sorry about that, yes. me too. >> sean: i'm also sympathetic to the parents that were on this program last night. i'm sympathetic of the 5-month-old little boy of a police officer in california that will never see his father for the rest of his life. and i'm sympathetic to the victims of crime. are your fellow mucks willin --republicans willing toy

life and death is more importance than a paycheck -- -- hope most will republican, democrats you voted for $25 billion for border security funding in february of 2018. if it was not -- if it's a manufactured crisis, are senator schumer, speaker pelosi, why did you vote for border security package less than a year ago that had $25 billion for border security, including wall money. to say my republican colleagues. this is the best chance we will ever have to help president trump get border border wall funding, steel barrier funding and at the same time fix the loopholes. the only way we lose is to give in. if we will stand firm -- put deals on the table that make sense, we will win this on behalf of the american people. but if we undercut the president, that's the end of his presidency and the end of our party. and we deserve to be punished if we give in now. >> sean: in other words, as long as it takes, you believe you and your fellow

senators are willing to stay and fight to stop drugs, human trafficking, and criminal activity from the small percentage of people that cross our border because it's unsafe and not secured? >> before the end of this week i intend to put legislation together that has wall funding like the president has requested and argue that we voted for the same thing in the past before he was president. and i intend to put legal reforms on the table that we have all voted for. i intend to help the tps population about 400,000 people are going to lose their legal status. i'm willing to entertain legal status for the dream act population that we have all voted for. so what a am i going to do? i'm going to take bills we have all voted for and see if they can be voted for under trump. the problem is not the policy. the problem is that my democratic friends don't acknowledge that president trump won. that's the problem. >> sean: all right. senator graham, thank you for being with us tonight. moments ago the president making his case. his first oval office

address about border security. here is part of what the president said. >> the federal government remains shut down for one reason and one reason only because democrats will not fund border security. my administration is doing everything in our power to help those impacted by the situation. but the only solution is for democrats to pass a spending bill that defends our borders and reopens the government. >> sean: by the way, mitch mcconnell just put out a statement which he said tonight the president tonight reaffirmed his effort to addressing the humanitarian security crisis at our nation's southern border. his proposal to everyone crease security through physical barriers suits the reality on the ground. it's what career border patrol experts support and are asking for and simply builds on earlier legislation that senate democrats like then senator obama, clinton, schumer previously supported with

enthusiasm. the past 18 days have shown democrats refusal to negotiate is not due to any principle you had objection but simply due to partisan spite for the president, for the men and women of border patrol for the safety of american families, for all-americans who deserve a fully operational federal government. i sincerely hope my democratic colleague also come to the table and deliver a solution. joining us now we go to the house minority leader kevin mccarthy is with us tonight. have you taken a strong and principled stand similarly that this is about life and death. you also are from california. you have seen the impact in your state most recently with police officers singh in his particular case. >> i saw with officer singh and his family. the individual who murdered him was arrested in my county on his way back to mexico. what's going on and what the president sounded like tonight, i thought he was very strong and very confident and talked just about the facts. i have watched this

president from the moment there could be a possibility of a government shutdown try to find a solution be here in washington. call the individuals up. and when we met last week, wednesday before that leadership race, we could tell nancy pelosi could do nothing until the speaker race happened. remember how close that was. those individuals had to vote present for her to win speaker. but this president has stayed with this and for all the viewers, they have to understand what he is asking so you really know who is shutting this down. he is asking for 10% of what our government gave away to foreign governments last year. the 56 billion they gave away, he just wants 5.6 billion to secure our border. that's why the democrats are -- >> sean: are the republicans in the house and senate. i'm not worried about the president. we kind learned if he says he is going to pick a fight and he believes in something strongly in this case he is talking about human lives, about serious violent crimes among a very small

percentage because the borders are open and drug and human trafficking, are the republicans in the house and senate, are they willing to stand behind him for as long as it takes? i think that's what a lot of conservatives want answered tonight. congressman? >> i think the american public have seen that this isn't just about a party. this is about a country. i was not even in congress in 2006 when schumer voted for that. they prom missed the american public that we would have 700 miles of fencing. it's about time someone stood up and made it happen what they promised the american public they would do. we have watched and for the democrats to say there is not a crisis, this is what happens in those meetings, sean. when secretary nielsen goes to provide facts, not something she has made up, but something that is happening along the border, those 17,000 individuals who were stopped along the border that had a criminal border or those 800 gang members that have been stopped, these are just things that have happened along the southern border. nancy pelosi would interrupt her so she could not speak.

by the third meeting, where secretary nielsen finally got a word out she said i don't believe your facts. i don't believe your facts. this is the problem that we have. democrats do not want to listen to really what's happening. the amount of drugs, the president laid it out. the amount of people who are dying. more than in the vietnam war. we have a crisis on our border. he is standing up for it. and i will tell you this: our conference stands with him and we have resolve to see this through just with what was promise to the american public back in 2006 where schumer voted for it. >> sean: schumer, hillary, obama, many of the -- biden, they all voted for it. >> the whole group. >> sean: it was interesting the exchange you referred to and that was between nancy pelosi and secretary nielsen i don't believe your facts. they are not my facts. they are the facts. the secretary i thought had a good response. >> exactly. >> sean: the facts she spoke about in two year period, 4,000 homicides that were committed by illegal aliens.

30,000 sex crimes. 100,000 violent assaults. that's not drugs and that's not human trafficking. and by the way people on both sides of the border, those who make that arduous journey the 98% that want what we take for granted, more freedom, more opportunity for themselves, their family, their kids and their grand kids. we are not talking about them. if they can cross over seeking a job, so, too, county criminal element. potential terrorist elements which have also been stopped at the border. >> we have watched that many times before. and what's happening inside these meetings. and i'm thankful the president is calling us back again. because this president wants to find common ground. watch what he has said. he has moved from a concrete barrier to make sure they this slats. he has talked about other elements that the democrats talked about. in those meetings every democrat will say they are for border security. so then i ask the question well what's your definition of border security? who, in america today, believes you can have border security with not some form of a barrier? we have watched what

happened in san diego, el paso has become one of the safest cities because they have a barrier. we watched in huma, arizona, what's happened is those illegal crossings have dropped more than 90%. we know it works. we know we need it. we know we have to use technology as well. this is where the president has stood strong. he is standing strong for the american public. but, more importantly, he is the one person in the room that's trying to find compromise where the democrats will not move at all. >> sean: all right, kevin mccarthy, the house minority leader, thank you for being with us. joining us now on the phone for quick reaction is the great one, life, liberty the levin, we call him mark levin the great one is with us. you know, mark, it comes down to the arguments made by schumer and pelosi. i don't mean to be sarcastic but it looked like a "saturday night live" opening skit, but, especially considering chuck schumer particular biden support obama support for a wall in 2006 and 2013.

they are saying that this is a manufactured crisis and they are saying that they are upset about the delayed checks to furloughed federal government employees which i am sympathetic towards. but the president is making the case that we have americans being victims of crime, homicide, sexual assault, other violent assaults that we have trafficking and that we have -- that's going across the border. human trafficking, drug trafficking. to me it's about life and death or inconvenience. this is not manufactured. you can't tell the son of officer singh that is a manufactured crisis. this is a real life and death situation for many american families and i wanted to get your reaction to tonight's. >> first of all, the president gave an outstanding speech. it was concise. it was compassionate and truly compassionate. he provided the context both in terms of what's going on in the border, the expense, which is deminimis and who is really responsible. let's keep a few things in mind when you watch schumer

and pelosi, they are pathological liars. they have been in congress over half a century. what the hell have they done about the border? nothing. they are part of the scam artists. they get amnesty, legalization, citizenship, and never secure the border. just spend billions and trillions more, more debt, more deficits on the redistribution of wealth, on $200 billion a year on illegal aliens. one more time they fooled reagan. they fooled bush 41. they fooled bush 43. but they are not going to fool donald trump who has got tougher than pelosi and schumer. let me point out a few things. these two and the rest of them are never forced to explain their flip flop where they were for border security. they voted to authorize walls. they voted to fund some of the walls and now all of the sudden it's immoral. do you know what's immoral? when everybody talks about those government employees who will be temporarily inconvenienced, who will get

their money back. nobody talks about the unskilled, low skilled american worker who has to compete with people from guatemala, from honduras, from mexico, from south of the border who come into this country illegally. nobody talks about the big corporations like hewlett packard and boeing and disney and others. where part of the scam artist operation who want illegal aliens in this country. nobody talks about the fact that destroying our immigration system, these democrat city sanctuary cities, these democrat state sanctuary states where the citizens are treated as second class citizens and the taxpayers have to cough up the money for, what? let me explain what this is about. power. democrat party power. democrat party before country. there is appear excellent piece in of all places the atlantic. a left wing site written by a guy by the name of peter buckhart a liberal. he says between 2008 and 26,

the democrats became more and more confident. the country is growing gave the party electoral edge. so they switched. salon which is a left wing site. they declared after obama's 2008 win if that pattern continues with the la teen latio vote the g.o.p. is doomed 40 years wandering into the dessert. he goes on to explain this is a liberal and liberal fight. that's exactly what is going on. notice pelosi and schumer didn't talk about the american worker. notice they didn't talk about the communities on the border that are suffering. notice they never talk about law and order because they hated law enforcement. they never talk about the overwhelming cost involved in healthcare. the overwhelming cost involved in our public schools. localities and states, they are barely reimbursed for this. we, the american taxpayer, the american citizen, we take it in the neck. one other thing, the democrat platform in 2008,

read it. hold on now, the democrat platform in 2008, basically supports virtually everything the republican president of the united states said today. the american people haven't changed. the republican party hasn't changed. the democrats for political reasons and power reasons they have changed and they want to drag us all off the cliff with them. >> sean: mark, that's a great point and we played their past statements many times on this program. i know you played it on your radio show on life, liberty and levin. i want to get to the issue of legality. i saw a post that you made and that is that the president as the commander-in-chief has a right to declare a national emergency which would therefore give hip the funds. obviously end up in the courts and go judge shopping and put in a court in california so it would go to the ninth circuit. i want to talk about the legality of that and also, as the commander-in-chief, constitutionally, this is your wheel house, wouldn't he have the ability to say that this is a national

security issue and as such be able to appropriate funds from the defense department as well. does he have other options here? >> as usual, it's left to me to straighten out all the phony experts on cable and network tv who have law degrees and pretend they know something. it's called the national emergency act of 1976. >> sean: mark, i agree. >> basically congress passed this to tighten and limit what a president could do unilaterally there is a provision in the statute. it's a statute. so it's not the president acting unconstitutionally. and in this statute if congress wants to reverse or halt what the president is doing unilaterally, it takes a joint resolution of the house and senate, a majority vote. there is a check. that's number one. number two, these powers essentially in different iterations in the past, different laws in. >> sean: two 20 seconds, mark. >> go back before abraham lincoln they have been exercised multiple times:

exercised by george w. bush. >> sean: mark, we have to let it go there. the great one, life, liberty and levin. sunday night here on the fox news channel. when we come back i give you my monologue about what a real crisis is and how it is impacting and hurting so many american families. we'll get the legal aspect from gregg jarrett, sean spicer, much more, please stay with us. ♪ ♪ wizzlers... yeah, uh...for the team... >>the team? gooo team.... order online pickup in an hour and, now buy one hp ink get one 30% off at office depot officemax

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>> sean: the president making a powerful compelling case for the wall on southern border. this is a national emergency. the situation is now dire and whether or not we secure our border, it does have real life or death consequences. as we have known now in the last two weeks, but also over the past two years.

approximately 4,000 criminal aliens have been arrested for homicide. 30,000 for sex crimes. over 100,000 for violent assaults. these are against the american citizens. in 2018, 17,000 individuals with criminal records were apprehended trying to cross this border. 60,000 inadmissible or illegal immigrants are turned away from our borders every single month. and over the last few weeks, 20,000 children, they were smuggled or trafficked in to the united states. illegal drugs are also pouring across the southern border. now, every seven days 300 americans die from a heroin overdose. 90% of that highly toxic and addictive chemical, well that drug comes south of the border. now, given all these facts, why not give border patrol the tools they are asking for, that they need, that they desperately called for and that is a strategic wall on our southern border. now, this is about more than just numbers and statistics. this is about human lives.

american lives, families that will never see their loved ones again. children who grow up without fathers and mothers. parents who are forced to bury there children. now because of the devastation and impact of uncontrolled borders, even democrats once fully supported these border walls. and 2006, democrats and republicans did come together to fund a partial border wall secure fence act. 64 democrats in the house voted in favor of the bill in the senate. it passed with overwhelming support in both parties. chuck schumer, who says this is a manufactured crisis, he voted for the wall. hillary clinton voted for it. barbara boxer, dianne feinstein voted for the wall. barack obama, joe biden, but now that president trump is in office, well, now the wall is somehow immoral? take a look at one of the single most blatant flip-flops in american political history. take a look. >> i voted numerous times when i was a senator to spend money to build a

barrier, to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming. iin. >> and you voted for an american where you voted to build bridges, not walls. >> people who enter the united states without our permission are illegal aliens and illegal aliens should not be treated the same as people who entered the u.s. legally. to so many americans we do not want the wall to be a symbol of america. much preferring the statue of liberty be that symbol. >> those who enter our country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law. and because we live in a age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we cannot allow people to pour into the u.s. undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. >> if there are disruptions in these countries, if there is conflict, if there is bad governance, if there is war, if there is poverty, in this

new world that we live, in we can't isolate ourselves. we can't hide behind a wall. >> all of us agree that we need to have comprehensive bipartisan immigration reform. that can only begin strong border control. we must have that. we must control our borders. >> a wall is an immorality, it's not who we are as a nation. >> sean: we could go on for an hour. now, the worst part of this is democrats are politicizing what is national security. joining us now fox news legal analyst gregg jarrett american first action senior advisor sean spicer. let's get your general reaction and talk about the question i asked mark levin which is the other options available tout president to declare a national emergency or certainly as the commander-in-chief look at this as a defense issue. >> the national emergency act authorizes the president to declare an emergency. and nobody can second-guess him. he has unfettered authority.

congress delegated that authority to him. and they also gave him something else, a specific statute that says he can use the military redirect them for construction of an unauthorized project. whatever it is, the president wants it to be. that could be the barrier wall and nobody can stop him from doing it. >> sean: you know, sean spicer it's a hard question but we saw this happen twice now in a week and a half and that is people die. officer singh in one case. then you have mr. corcoran, a 22-year-old kid. how many people have to die before people say this is not a manufactured crisis, real americans, real crimes, real victims. >> well, sean, tonight i think what you saw is a binary choice. the president recognized it's a job of every elected leader is to protect his people. tonight the president laid out a very compelling case to protect not just our people but those that suffer the humanitarian crisis of

trying to cross our border and fall short of it. and that crisis fails. the crisis that falls on people that deal with opioid drug use. but what the democrats did tonight with schumer and pelosi is ignore the fact that they once joined in this fight. that this used to be a bipartisan choice that we all agreed upon, protecting our people, protecting national security, protecting from the flow of illegal drugs and protecting those people that weren't even citizens who were the victim of humanitarian crisis. but democrats played politics and you just showed the clips of all those people playing hypocrisy on this. and this is the problem right now. >> sean: with people's lives. thank you both. more closing thoughts when we come back. you're always itching. but even though you see and feel eczema on your skin, an overly sensitive immune system deep within your skin could be the cause.

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officers family and tell them that. are you going to tell them it is a manufactured crisis, tomorrow night to an end as we will be joined by secretary nielsen. let not your heart be troubled, the news continues news continues. >> laura: hannity, i like it when you are here on the big news night because then you can just walk through the law like a superhero. you just walk right through and you sit down. you know, come on. >> sean: how can they say it is manufactured? how do you say that to the 5-year-old son of the officer in california. how do you say that to the mother and father of the wonderful people who lost their 22-year-old son in knoxville, tennessee? how do you tell them this is a manufactured crisis, or the many deaths from heroin overdoses in this country? >> laura: hannity, you're absolutely right. we are covering every angle of this tonight. we learn a lot about the democrats