on the fox news channel. think about from this perspective. anything about human lives, suffering, isn't it worth protecting americans first? let not your heart be troubled. the news continues. laura ingraham is standing by in the swamp, sewer known as washington, d.c. >> laura: okay, every time you come to me. we have a drinking game here in the studio? my name and the word sewer. i expect that from some of the people on the other networks, but i need you to keep thefr wod sewer away from my name. >> sean: i said laura ingraham coming to you from the sewer. i live in new york. new york has 15 rats for every person. >> laura: thank you, hannity, from the land of free health care, for illegal aliens that's going to further bankrupt the city. >> sean: theyth take all my money as it is. >> laura: great show.

this is "the ingraham angle" from washington. it was an amazing night last night for the president. it's the best he's had in some time. we're going to explore how the visuals of last night's shut down, that fight over the shutdown, might've given the president the upper hand.d. raymond arroyo is going to be here to reveal a few moreow important moments that i bet some of you might have missed. that's going to be in "seen and unseen." i have a question. who the heck leaked details of the president's off-the-record meeting with all those ethical reporters yesterday? they are the journalistic watchdogs for america during their fact checks on trump. it wasc off the record and somehow it was then told to "the new york times." "the ingraham angle" and howie kurtz have done some sleuthing and we have news. if rachel maddow is the queen maker, kingmaker of the left and she invited alexandria ocasio-cortez to respond to the

president's remarks last night, do her vile comments about i.c.e. and the border patrol agents reflect the mainstream now of the democratic party? an important segment. you're going to want to stick around for that one. first, trump shuts down thers media. that's the focus of tonight's angle. last night i told you how the president exposed the democrats' true shutdown motives, namely the democrats love the partial government shutdown because they think it helps them politically. which is why they refuse to move even an inch on the issue of wall funding. today the president exposed the media's motives in this drama as well. rather than giving us in-depth, objective reporting on the effects of illegal immigration on average americans, all of you out there, your jobs, your schools, your safety, and on your health, the media spend

their airtime parroting democrat attacks on the president's character and motives. >> his whole frame around this entire debate, the entire shutdown, the entire government shutdown, over a scam. this is not a border security crisis that merits a wall. it's a humanitariann crisis. >> where the president was incredibly disingenuous because he said that the shutdown is because democrats will not fund border security. that's just false. >> laura: before the president's speech last night, the media vowed to do their insta-fact-checking. they wanted to do this inin real time. >> president trump preparingal s prime time speech as fact-checkers prepare for their version of the super bowl. >> the prime time pitch from the president that is expected to send fact-checkers into overdrive tonight.t >> we are all going to be doing fact-checking. here at cnn. >> they have really been

throwing a lot of dodgy and false statistics around. what do you expect to see? >> we'll be fact-checking relentlessly. >> laura: the fact check squad didn't fare too well. i would rather have had the mod squad. in the aftermath of the oval office address, the media collapsed into old tropes and some awkward admissions., >> one in three women are sexually assaulted in some way on the journey. >> i don't know about that. i can't weigh in. >> every day, customs and border patrol agents encounter thousands of illegal immigrants tryingto to enter our country. >> so here is the fact. the fact is, while border apprehensions were up in october and november, that's not unusual. >> he was delivering his speech. it was so low-energy that if donald trump were running against that guy, he would call him low-energy don. >> he was the first ever presidential address via collapsed souffle.

he looked defeated, deflated. he looked terrible. >> laura: if i was that crowd, i wouldn't talk about looking terrible. first of all, first of all, what happened to the fact-check? he said thousands of immigrants. it devolved into he looked tired. well, their latest tactic and we're going to see more of it in the coming days is to feature the sob stories ofom government workers who, still, by the way, have not missed a paycheck. watch carefully. rank emotional manipulation, pure propaganda. now, how many of these segments today do over the years on american workers who were pushed out of entire industries as unscrupulous employers hired them for cash or at a fraction of the salary. how many close-up interviews of victims of illegal alien crime did they do? by the way, those people aren'tl

experiencing a temporary loss of income. but a permanent loss of a family member. look at the front page of today's "new york times" which thought to frame the president's address this way.s you see the photo. it's a photo of migrants, you can see there. it's getting smaller but migrants at a tijuana temporary kind of migrant shelter. once again, the media focusinghe on that, interviewing people at the shelter, putting both the p feelings and the concerns of noncitizens over those of actual citizens. at least they have that nice wide screen. they could enjoy it on that. perhaps the voters after watching all this, hearing all of it, are not so easily manipulated. the morning poll found a plurality of americans, 42%, believe the situation a at the border is a crisis, including 72% of republicans. obviously far fewer democrats. trump has successfully shunned

the democrats who are not substantively engaged in problem solving on the issue at the border. but still the media continues to carry the water for them. but when reporters begin acting like pundits, kellyanne conway showed us yesterday exactly how they should be treated. >> can you promise that the president will tell the truth tonight?t? will he tell the truth? >> yes, can you promise that you will? the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you god. make sure that goes viral. this is why i'm one of the only people around here who even gives you the time of day. let me get back in your face because you're such a [bleep] i know you want this to go viral. f a lot of these people don't like you. let me be respectful to the media writ large as i always am. i explained that it was alternative information and additional facts and i explained it many times. don't you put it backnf in my fe for all the questions your network needs to issue.u

>> laura: she said smart ass. s it was all over television yesterday. she obviously has been learning from her boss a little bit. here is the trump smack down of abc's jonathan karl that happened today in the oval office as the president was actually doing the business of the country, the series of human trafficking bills were signed. >> why not sign the other bills, some of these workers can get paid. >> do you think i should doan that? do you think i should do that, john? i want your one-sided reporting. do you think i shouldsi do that? seriously, john, do you think i should just sign? no, no, tell me. d john, do you think i should just sign? >> i am saying that if you sign it, workers can start getting paid. >> so you would do that if you were in my position. >> i'm not in your position. >> you should never be in this position because you would never get anything done. goodbye, everybody. thank you very much. >> laura: by the way, the bills are actually signed, human

trafficking which all these other administrations were going to do something about, trump is actually doing something about it while all the other stuff is going on around him. women's empowerment, democrats are supposed to be all for that. funding for all sorts ofof women entrepreneurship programs. ivanka trump has been working on that. that was signed into law as well. didn't matter. not going to cover it.he but we've got to play the pundit game with the president. trump is dominating rhetorically and substantively. tomorrow he heads to the border. he's going to, again, i predict take control of the news cycle. today he actually went to capitol hill and he met with congressional leaders at the white house before that. again, the democrats were not interested though in solutions. only in the sound bites afterwards. >> unfortunately, the president just got up and walked out. he just walked out. again, we saw a temper tantrum. because he couldn't get his way

and he just walked out of the meeting. >> laura: okay, no. the president decided that he had had enough. the democrats just aren't operating in good faith here, so the president walked out, refusing to be part of theirei shut down soap opera. he wants to get to yes. they want to stay at no.of of all the media outlets out there, the ap was one of the few to properly frame the situation. in a tweet, they wrote "democrats put the blame for the shutdown on trump, but it takes two to tango. trump's demands $5.7 billion for his border wall is one reason for the budget impasse. the democrats refused to approve the money is another." guess what, the ap was lashed by liberals for doing that.d that tweet. look at the online reaction. looks like my twitter feed. ap fact-check. hindenburg was a fine blimp and democrats to fail to appreciate it because it takes two to

tango. ap fact-check. authorities put the blame for hannibal lector's murder spree on the serial killer himself. but it takes two to tango. amazing. while trump continues to be a powerful political astringent, as i like to say. in the face of politics as usual, it's feeling the sting especially the ones that we saw last night. well, it ain't pretty. the real collusion, my friends, is in washington andin it's the one that trump had so masterfully exposed. it's the collusion between the american media and the open bordersen democrat party. that's the angle. here now, howie kurtz, host of "media buzz". joel rubin, former deputy assistant secretary of state under obama. michael goodwin, fox news contributor. he wrote a piece about hower the dems intransigence on the issue shows they are still kind of not

able to get over the 2016 election. couldn't the same be said for the american media? >> they are one and the same really, right? i call them the media handmaidens. i think what we saw with the dueling speeches yesterday was on the surface it looks likeof they should be able to just kind of cut the difference here, split the difference and reach a deal. that's what they were supposed to do. but in fact, because the democrats view themselves having an advantage in the shutdown, they are loath to give theve president anything. they don't want toth give the president anything he can claim as a victory because they still do not view him as a legitimate president. so many members of the democratic party, the far left especially, and nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are afraid of those people. their jobs are on the line if they cross the far left wing of their party, and soo they are going along with this

resistance. had they negotiated with the president for the last twobu years, they could have gotten a lot of things done for this country. but at this stage of the game, they have thrown their lot with the mob. >> laura: a little bit. a little bit of movement toward trump. trump has changed the makeup of the wall. be cement. it will be steel. he's obviously showing movement hi daca. he will probably do something in goody faith on that. he's gone to capitol hill, opened the doors at the white house. they meet on the weekends and at camp david. he's done a lot. >> he likes to cut deals. >> laura: he likes to get something done for the people.n every time they yell a question at the president, they say what about the government workers, the furloughed workers? i am waiting for president trump to say have you talked to nancy and chuck about that, because i've been trying to get to yes with them for a while. but it's always, always attacks at the president. i think the acosta moment back-to-back.

kellyanne yesterday and the president today, that was quite something. they are looking like pundits. they are not looking like reporters. >> for a white house correspondent for cnn to say ise the president going to lie tonight is in a whole different category. this is a week when many in the media came out of the closet and decided to constantly call donald trump a liar. and they did it as a preemptivey strike. in a few hours, the president will come on and he's going to lie. he shouldn't be allowed airtime because he's going too lie. he gives this speech and they say he lied. there have been some legitimate fact checks and there been some claims. >> laura: we have pointed out. >> chris wallace among others. but the name-calling now i think it has just reached at a level where there is no fig leaf anymore. the emotion is coming out in the name-calling. >> laura: speaking of name-calling, here is marie hinojosa. >> what we are talking about is arch right-wing conservatives, republicans, some white supremacists want to change the conversation and the narrative as who we are as a country.

oh, my god. border security. border security. i have been talkingur about thit story for 30 years, 30 years there's been this the neurosis about border security. >> laura: in a moment, w'ere going to talk to the lieutenanta governor of texas. he's going to talk a lot about the crime in mcallen, texas, what it has done to devastatet latino families. i'm not sure what she's talking about there. how is that objective reporting on something that even the media, 5 minutes ago, had said was a humanitarian crisis at the border? >> laura, we need objective c reporting and we need to have it clear so that the american people can decide. the facts about the border and the facts about the wall are ones where, when numbers are put out as they have been by congress, by members of both parties, they see that there's a level of funding for border security that is reasonable and

rational. unfortunately we are now in a position -- >> laura: they are not -- they won't discuss it. democrats will not discuss any movement toward the president.ha ap said it takes two to tango. the president said it's my shutdown too. he said that early on. he said that. but now he says okay, we want to try to get somewhere here. let's meet. let's figure out something together. i i'm going to operate in good faith. can you join me? the intransigence here is not on the president. if it was, he'd be sitting in the oval office saying let's get going. let's keep going. democrats want to -- >> i think it's where there might be the ability to see a crack happening. he can go bigger but right now it's just binary. if it's just wall funding, no wall funding, we're not going to get anywhere. >> laura: panel, i want to stay on the media and get youre thoughts on this issue of someone leaking information from what was supposed to be an off the record meeting, a briefing, with president trump and other members of his team, select group of network anchors. "the new york times" maggie

haberman was not among those invited yesterday to launch them but somehow she got all the details. y tweeting "trump didn't want to give the speech tonight and told tv anchors at lunch today that his planned trip to the border l is a waste of time." a cnn anchor who was also not invited reporting details today as well. >> the president told television anchors yesterday before his speech that in his words, it's not going to change a damnmn thing and that d the visit to te wall tomorrow, or to the border rather, he calls pointless. i wonder then why he requested the nation's time yesterday.nt >> laura: howie, you have been doing some digging. we know basically who was at this meeting, a number of journalists. what did you find out? >> i reached out to all the network anchors who were there. a couple got back to me. cnn's chris cuomo, chuck todd. they couldn't talk about it because the meeting was off the record. >> laura: let's examine that answer.

they couldn't talk about itmi because -- we are not asking them to reveal the details of the meeting. we are asking them if they revealed the details of the meeting to someone else. that's a journalistic question regarding ethics, and they're talking a lot about ethics lately, slamming the president for being immoral and a liar and all the rest of it. how would that be off the record, whether they leaked the contents of the off the record briefing. >> some take the approach that i can't talk about this at all because i went in under these ground rules. i talked to our colleague bret baier who was also at the meeting. he said a reporter called him and pumped them for details. he wouldn't talk to thisri pers. thinks it's horrible because it shows that somebody -- >> laura: they are never going to do it again. they are not going to do it aiagain. >> i talked to the "the new york times" reporter who wrote the story and he said it's a fair question to ask, that he'd written these kind of

stories under obama. i've written stories like this too. he told me it's our job to convince people in closed-door meetings at the white house to tell us what happens inside, and that's true whether it's white house officials, members of congress or other journalists. he said it provides more insight. >> laura: i'm not going to blame "the new york times." you want people to give you stuff. i am talking about people in f that meeting. jonathan karl, right? george stephanopoulos. am i getting this right? jonathan karl. no, he wasn't there. it was stephanopoulos, cuomo, chuck todd. those three, a univision anchor or reporter. and a few others.

cbn's reporter was there. raymond arroyo was there. he's going to talk about it. not what happened but he was there.e. bret baier, not many people. one of those individuals. >> it's a pretty select group that you can focus on. i don't know who leaked it. >> laura: it goes to "the angle." they leaked it because when president trump said, and i don't know why he would have said it, that it was a waste of time, that's not a really good thing to have said if he said that behind closed doors. it went to their narrative. >> yes, but what i am told is the tone may have been a little bit lighter. he may have just been tweaking it. >> laura: he's always off the cuff. michael goodwin, before we let you go. i think it's eroded the credibility of the american media. they want to fact-check the president, that's fine, that's their job. but when you become a political pundit and try to pass yourself off as an objective anchor, i'm not getting it. i don't see how that helps democracy.au democracy dies in the darkness. [laughs] i think journalism is dying in the darkness. >> listen, the bias has been obvious of course for more than two years now but i thought earlier, laura, you pointed to the morning consult politico poll which showed 42% believe the border is a crisis and an additional 37% think it's a problem. c so here you have 79% of the respondents, and it was a very big poll, saying that this is a real issue. according to the media, it's not

an issue at all. it's not a crisis. it's not a problem. it's kind of a seasonal problem that pops up every now and then. nothing happening here. nothing to see. i think that's the great bias that's hurting the country. >> laura: don't you think, my point is if the media were a little fairer or 20% more fair, the numbers would probably be a lot higher in the poll for people seeing this for what it is. >> i think the media's credibility is really coming into question with this leak. i think it's something that when we see the president and the media fighting like they are, the enemy of the people, going back-and-forth that he describes the media, it's not good for anybody. >> laura: i think both sides should tone it down. thanks so much. what really happened today in the meeting with president trump and nancy pelosi and steve schumer. congressman steve scalise was in the room and he's going to be here with all the juicy details that were not off the record. with the president heading to the border, we're going to speak to texas lieutenant governor dan patrick about how democratst ae

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republicans on capitol hill, think about it. take a lesson from the democrats. they never break ranks. think about what you republicans accomplished by supporting the president during theli confirmation fight of brett kavanaugh. when things got tough, when the media were piling on, republicans stood firm. do it again here. the democrats are desperate to divide and conquer the g.o.p. don't let them. that was my message to the g.o.p. on monday. stay unified on issues of really big import to the country and great results are going to follow. despite reports to the contrary, president trump earlier today brushed off concerns that the g.o.p. unity was cracking. >> the republicans are unified. we want border security. we want safety for our country. >> laura: well, still there are some like congressman adam kinzinger who are showing signs of, well, weakness. >> if it is an agreeable bill and agreeable preparations, i i

will open as much government as we can. it's a super easy issue to solve. this is what frustrates me out here. we can all solve this andhe it's like an 80% agreement when weme are done. it's just nobody wants to give anybody a win or anything else. we've got to get past that or we're going to continue in this stupid shutdown. it is a cycle. >> laura: here to tell us where his caucus actually stands, the management of the g.o.p. vote, housese minority wp steve scalise. congressman scalise, even after the speech that was soli well-received, is the president really facing defections? >> laura, not really. frankly what you're seeing is a growingly unified conference. vice president pence came last night to speak to our members and really gave a very impassioned plea about what this is all about. of course he saw the president. >> laura: what does adam kinzinger talk about? he joined other republicans today to vote forr partially funding the government. financial services appropriations bill. adam kinzinger, he'se kind of tweaked the president on a

number of issues. syria andsi other things. >> keep in mind the media was reporting before that both that there were going to be 25 republican defections. go read the politico article. i am the republican vote counter. we were never anywhere close to that and sure enough, we thought maybe a dozen or less. we ended up with eight. when they reported 25 and there ended up being eight, i'm sure they're going to be a lot of reports tomorrow saying that they were wrong. in the end, the president laid out i think a very passionate plea yesterday about why we are in this. >> laura: there was a meeting today that you were at withh the president, and chuck schumer comes on tv and says the president -- it's his favorite word, tantrum. it's like psychological projection. >> nobody has had more tantrums than chuck schumer. n watching he and nancy pelosi last night, the greenacres segment they gave, in the end, they had no rebuttal to what the president said is a crisis of the border. when you see nancy pelosi and i've been in these meetings now. this is the third meeting we've

had in the last week.s nancy pelosi will start off by saying i am for border security. the president will say okay, how can you say you're for border security. i need funding for border security. she will not agree to a dime. last week, the only time she's ever put an alternative on w the table was when last week she jokingly said she would w suppot a dollar. any american out there, no matter what side of this debate you're on regarding immigrationw if you really think a dollar is a serious argument and proposal. we are in a series negotiation. the president said the experts have told me to going to take $5.6 billion to secure the american border. what's your alternative and she says a dollar. >> laura: kamala harris from tonight, we have a sound bite, this is how the left is demagoguing thisni issue. >> start talking about african-americans and latinos don't want this. this stuff happening. i mean, what was that supposed to be about?

tell me that. if not about inserting race in a way that was intended to create fear and division. >> the fear and division is coming from people who are tired of seeing drugs pour across the border. officer singh's family, there's so many people like that. i've seen story after story, colleagues who have shared stories with me about deaths that have happened in their districts about people hereen illegally. we bring over a million people into the country legally to seek the american dream. the people that are coming across the border illegally that are here to do bad things, drug dealers, terrorists. last year i.c.e. agents saved over 900 children from humanan trafficking. what are they going to say to those 900 kids? >> laura: the president signed legislation today, antihuman trafficking legislation.

i don't know if it was coveredaf at all on the networks. if it was, i missed it. >> this president has done more to try to stem some of the tide of the bad things that are coming across our border from drugs to human trafficking, sexual assault. look at the numbers. over 30% of all the women in the caravan have been sexually assaulted. >> laura: where are the feminists? >> why don't they care about that? >> laura: because it's not real. >> by the way, chuck schumer voted for a similar wall in 2006. where is their indignation on all of this? >> laura: was the president petulant today? >> the president never banged his -- he was very calm, trying to get a solution. nancy pelosi never wanted to put an alternative on the table. he looked at her and said you keeps saying you want to open the government up again. what if i open it up for the next 30p days. at the end of 30 days, will you support the wall? without blinking, she said no. he said we are not getting anywhere. s >> laura: the president tweeted: "negotiation 101."

the deals you can make are the ones you can walk away from, and then get them on better terms. congressman, thank you so much. great to seehe you as always. the president's trip to the border tomorrow is about more than a wall. he's going to be highlighting the communities most adversely affected by the surge of illegal immigration, communities that are changing before our very eyes.. here now lieutenant governor of texas, a man who the president has leaned on just ahead of last night's speech. dan patrick who met with the president yesterday, dan, thank you for being here. do we have a crisis at our southern border and is the wall necessary in your view? >> it's not a manufactured crisis. it's a manufactured cover up. i'm sick and tired of it, laura. the white house yesterday.st actually didn't see the president. i was working with his team before. i will see him tomorrow. but it's a manufactured cover up. the mainstream media, msnbc,. cnn, print media and the democrats are one of two groups. they are deniers or they are deceivers. the deniers won't accept the truth or they are quite frankly not smart enough to figure it out. the deceivers know the truth and are lying to the american people. the american people have to understand that the illegal

immigrants in this country today by my own calculations and the yale study of september 21 of last year says there are 25 million to 35 million people in this country, the low number could be 17 and the high could are lying to the american people. the american people have to understand that the illegal immigrants in this country today by my own calculations and the yale study of september 21 of last year says there are 25 million to 35 millionons kn people in this country, there low numbr could be 17 and the high couldli be 35. let's call it in the middle, 25. 7% to 8% of the populationon is here illegally and the reason the deceivers, the democrats and the mainstream media have this manufactured cover up is because they want another 10, 15, 20 million to continue to pour into where they turn those into votes one day and they control the country and they move our country to the left. i've seen it, laura, firsthand in texas. 200,000 illegal immigrants arrested, charged with over 700,000 crimes really have a hundred thousand gang members in texas. we caught 94.5 pounds of fentanyl. our state troopers last year. that works out to 21 millionds doses on the street. we have an opioid crisis. >> laura: deadly. >> this is a real crisis and the

american people better wake up because they are lied to by the mainstream media and the democrats. >> laura: i want to talk about mcallen, texas, in particular. the rio grande valley. the vast sector of that, like six border stations there. mcallen has been upgraded. it's a nice facility. these got a vast territory that's a growing hispanic population mcallen. you see the statistics there. it's gone up somewhat. not that much. but the more interesting thing is there is mcallen right at theho border. how does this affect crime in the area? just in the last couple months we've seen some pretty devastating criminal activity. >> ms-13, continued criminal activity, although laura, here's what's interesting, because we have in the state of texas along with u.s. government such a border presence there, crime is actually down over the area. i was in la joya, texas, a couple years ago and la joya is west of mcallen where the

current fence, we have 54 miles of fence along that area. it's where it ends. this democrat mayor said to me please extend the fence. why? because the fence was keeping people out. they came around into his community. we need fences, laura. a wall, call it what you want. barriers to key people out from brownsville to falcon lake. that's the main area where more than half people come into this entire country. last year, over 500,000 people crossed the border illegally between san diego and brownsville. about 300,000 in texas. law enforcement will tell you we get 1 out of 4 or 5. if we caught 500,000 just last year, that means somewhere between a million and a million and a half and 2 million were not caught. >> laura: not a crisis. >> it's a crisis beyond imagination and we are losing our country. in texas alone, we have 5 million kids in public school. one in five are not proficient or don't speak english at all. the cost of the american u t what or world arroy the bt ãand meet the needs of the american people. plmcon m peo o00humer is staring last year, over 500,000 people crossed the borderme illegally between san diego and brownsville. about 300,000 in texas. law enforcement will tell you we get 1 out of 4 or 5. if we caught 500,000 just last year, that means somewhere between a million and a million and a half and 2 million were notbe caught. >> laura: not a crisis. >> it's a crisis beyond imagination and we are losing our country. in texas alone, we have 5 million kids in public school. one in five are not proficient or don't speak english at all. the cost of the american taxpayer for education in this country, the cost of the

american taxpayer for health care in this country and i hear this about, "not all criminals," many are good people. we can't afford to educate, medicate, and incarcerate the whole world. we do thank you for the update from mcallen.we tomorrow we'll be covering it. next, raymond arroyo. see if we let tensions run the show up here, then our bodies won't perform at their best out here. wait, aren't we going to the sound check? priorities. so i'm partnering with cigna, to remind you that how you're doing emotionally affects you physically. go for your annual check-up and be open with your doctor about anything you're feeling. physically, and emotionally. body and mind cigna. together all the way.

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memes. we do that with our own raymond arroyo who was caught on film committing a crime? no way. wewe have surveillance video. joining us now, the aforementioned raymond arroyo. this thing last night, we were all sitting back there in thee offices and when they walked out, chuck and nancy, after the president spoke, the peals of laughter. now, that's unfair. tv, not everybody's a supermodel. that's fine. why was that so compelling? >> it was so compelling because audiences watch. it had a lot to do with the staging.ll it had a lot to do with what the speakers, what pelosi, the president, and schumer were doing intentionally or unintentionally, laura. on tv, little things matter. people are looking for visual clues to agree or disagree with what is a speaker is saying. in this case, in the case of the

rebuttal, things got a little creepy right off the top. from the wide shot, the slow push. >> speaking directly to the american people tonight about how we can end this shutdown and meet the needs of the american people. >> notice how schumer is s starg into the camera with this menace. nancy never blinks, as she speaks. she is kind of just robotically running through it. the hallway push at the top, there was a big mistake, laura. >> laura: who is producing? remember when obama did his big first speech at the democratic convention? didn't they fly in spielberg to produce it? it was shot well. this was like, this was like the kids at hofstra. >> this reminded me of a horror movie with the slow push watching these two figures. >> laura: psycho. >> hello.. >> laura: [laughs] that's awful. >> this is a movie called "it follows." then there was a moment where pelosi finished her portion of the speech and then she handed the baton to schumer. watch this exchange. tells us a lot.

>> the government. thank you. leader schumer. >> look what she does with her j jaw. she does this strange jaw readjustment. >> laura: [laughs] >> audience were wonderinge why am i thrown off by this?er those visuals send different cues. they make people a little frightened. h and then schumer, he speaks to her, thanks her without ever looking over to her. "thank you very much, speaker pelosi. let me tell you the border is in in big trouble." >> laura: don't do that again. >> it had the air of nosferatu. >> laura: oh, my. >> [laughs] >> laura: really scraping the bottom of the barrel. >> staring inhe that way. that's what it reminded me of. >> laura: i kept itching at this. what did he look like? it was like that one villain. >> two face from batman. we've got to go. we're going to run out of time. let's go to the president in the oval office.ou

you and i saw something when we watched this. the president itu was in comman. he was seated there. if you notice, watch the president. his eyes are a little off camera.au >> laura: how does that happen? >> either the prompter is beneath m the lens which means you're looking down rather than was the camera or something off, the camera was too close to him. but whatever, he's not looking through to the viewer. --t's the one >> laura: he was -- >> otherwise he was really in command, very emotive. >> laura: he was kind of reagan-esque but he was a little off on the camera shot but i shouldn't say that because whoever did that is now going t get inin trouble. probably only we notice it because we are tv people. picky, picky. >> chuck and nancy captured the imagination of many on thepi internet, a slew of memes rose up almost instantly. here are three of my favorites. this one is the greenacres meme. >> mexico to pay for this ineffective --

unable to convince -- >> it is the greenacres theme. the next meme, i call it the head swap. this keeps me up at night. >> laura: no, no, no. >> they put pelosi's face on one side and schumer's on the other and finally nancy and chuck as super villains. [laughter]au >> laura: oh, my god. obama saying that we need fresh blood in the democratic party and i kept seeing that, going okay. you were at the off the record luncheon. you were with all the fancy people. >> they invited anchors of different networks but someone f clearly broke the ground rules here. that hurts everybody because now you're not going to get any insight into what the president said. "the new york times" said twoo people briefed on the discussion shared this information with "the new york times." do you know what that means, one of these anchors talked to their

staff and they leaked it. >> laura: we're going to need to stop because we have some breaking news. this is a fox news alert. after a frantic manhunt, police are making an arrest of a man accused of relieving himself in a california family's yard and stealing extension cords. [laughs] the suspect, robert daniel arroyo, also caught on camera getting intimate with an intercom. that was in the middle of the night at someone else's home. raymond, what do you have to say? are you the doorbell licker? >> the man was identified as roberto daniel arroyo, no relation, thank god. this poor guy is a homeless man. he's licking -- he's licking the doorbell of this home. he apparently did this for three hours. i don't know about you, laura, but i've never licked anything for three hours and if i do, at the risk of sounding like one of those commercials, call medical help. other than stamps, i'm not going to be licking anything for more than 3 minutes much less three hours. it was not me. i was not doing it.

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>> laura: politico declaring her the new democratic kingmaker. it's interesting to see rachel maddow offer her coveted perch following president trump's address last night to alexandria ocasio-cortez. by doing so, maddow granted the new darling of the left carte blanche too deride those who keep us safe. they are just the agents of death, right? >> the president should not be asking for more money to an agency that has systematically violated human rights. the president should be really defending why we are funding such an agency at all. because right now, what we are seeing is death. >> laura: msnbc went on to classify those remarks in a tweet from their official

account the following way "alexandria ocasio-cortez delivers an impassioned response to president trump's address." here to debate this, charlie hurt, and democratic strategist scott bolden. scott, maddow is described as the kingmaker, granting aoc this big spot, big ratings last night for all the cable networks. but i.c.e. are the real criminals? i'm trying to think of the democrats, how does that reallyt get the middle of the country that you need to turn out, ohio, michigan, pennsylvania? >> what you are missing in cortez's commentary, hurling which might be hyperbole and impassioned and strong with ther facts of what she was talking about, you could be protectors like i.c.e. but you could also have your challenges and those challenges are we've had kids

die.e. we've had children separated from their families. we have had -- >> laura: i.c.e. is not responsible for that. that is border patrol and hhs policy. >> those who are on the border, they have created these policies of zero tolerance. created this kind of border issue as well as this crisis that the president keeps talking about. they are responsible. the facts are correct but those aren't the only facts. there could be other facts and they certainly are there to protect us but they are also there to protect those who are coming into seek asylum as well. that's probably what was missing from her commentary. >> laura: charlie, she's an extremely dynamic individual.ar she is very popular and she's like look, i'm going to make my voice heard and i'm going to be out there. i kind of give her credit for that. she's young. she's in herd 20s. she is like, let's go for broke and let's put it out there. but as republicans, is there a risk of going too much into

she's the future of the democrat party. is she really? >> there could be. she's constantly wrong but never in doubt. she goes out there and she puts forth ideas that are horribly dangerous. ii will tell you. she is a harbinger for things to come here. look, i deal on the college campuses. she's campus activist personified which talks about issues that are so radical and so unpalatable for most of america that you look at this and say really?le you want to abolish i.c.e.? >> laura: it's not just her ideas. it's her view on america. the view of what this country is today. forget parties. what about america? let's play. let's play what she said. >> it's imperfect too. >> laura: let's play what she said last night. >> the women and children on that border that are trying to seek refuge and seek opportunity in the united states of america with nothing but the shirt on their back are actingg more american than any person who seeks to keep them out ever will be. >> laura: so americans who

believe the rule of law and orderly immigration, merit-based immigration focusing on american workers, inner cities, veterans first, they are not american. the people who are americans are the ones who hold these laws. we want to work, do other things. how does that bring the democrat party, those bedrock middle-class voters, that language. i find it appalling, even for a 28-year-old. >> you are taking her literally. she was doing a comparative. i can't tell you what else shely was going on with her commentary, the reality is thise these individuals, these immigrants who are coming here illegally to seek asylum at the southern border, right, with very little, they are no different than our ancestors who came to this country. mine were enslaved but they really aren't different. they want the american dream. >> laura: so does the guy in nigeria. waiting patiently. >> or bulgaria. they have to abide by the law. >> they come across the border

and seek asylum and you have a president -- >> laura: 90% of themm will be rejected. >> they say they are criminals when they are not. simply because they are black and brown people.ar >> laura: no, whoa, whoa, whoa. >> what's the difference other than the color of their skin? >> laura: i know you. you know that's not we are talking about. i don't care if they are white, brown, asian. it doesn't matter. follow the law. follow the law. >> the northern border then. >> laura: we want to do both. i'm all for it. >> there is not a caravan coming from toronto. >> why does the president call these people, people from s-hole countries. >> laura: we are still on that? >> yes we are still on that. >> you said take her literally. she's a member of congress, not a poet. you should take what she says literally. n you said multiple times she represents 800,000 constituents from new york. this is so important. >> laura: he was comparing -- >> people from norway.

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good morning everyone! how's everyone doing today? ♪ let's go over the review questions and compare notes. sounds good. ♪ i did it! >> we hit this at the top of the show, the president is weighing in about the media luncheon that was off the record. this is a tradition for the white house, to reach out for major addresses to the nation

but word leaked out to the new york times and now the president gave a off the record luncheon, who would believe how bad it has gotten with the mainstream media which is gone totally bonkers, quickly leaked the contents of the meeting, i read it out of order but you get the point. and henry is in for shannon bream, he and the fox news at night team have the latest from every angle and i can't wait to watch. >> donald trump's message to democrat leader nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, walked out of the white house meeting after nancy pelosi repeated, will not fund the wall in the southern border, the president signaled he's going to the match to get the wall funding during a visit to the capital. when reporters asked how long