there is a crisis at our southern border. the government still shut down. pretty easy to get around you see these days not a whole lot of traffic on the roads because of that thanks for watching the story tonight on this thursday. we will see you tomorrow night. tucker is up next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the government shutdown continues at this hour as the debate over a border wall enters its fourth contentious week. neither side in this has shown any sign of willingness to compromise. this remains a stalemate as of now. the very definition of it. at least that's what it seems like from the outside. in fact, this debate is over. we're not getting a barrier along our southern border. we can't, not now, not ever. that possibility was permanently destroyed today by a fact-seeking missile of truth launched by one of our country's premier cable news outlets in a single

devastating act of journalism, cnn killed the wall. took their biggest guns to do it. the network dispatched its chief white house correspondent renaissance poet jim acosta to the u.s. mexico border. specifically to the town of mcallen, texas. once on the ground in mcallen, akosta wasted no time in proving once and for all that walls don't work. watch the standup that changed history. >> here are some of the steel slats that the president has been talking about. but as we are walking along here, we are not seeing any kind of eminent danger, there are no migrants trying to rush toward this fence here in the mcallen, texas area. no sign of the national emergency that the president has been talking about. as a matter of fact, it's pretty tranquil down here. >> tucker: you see that? take that, you nativist bigot freaks, you creepy wall obsessives. jim akosta just spanked you. he was there.

he was in the field, on the scene, doing the kind of hard boiled shoe leather reporting that has made jim acosta a household name. he went right to the wall itself. the very wall he finds immoral and has often argued against at press conferences. and what jim acosta found there will shock you, not a single illegal alien was anywhere near that wall. there was no tent city. there were no predatory gang members or coyotes, ms-13, not there. there was no sad suffering caravan. everything was just fine. jim acosta so memoably put it the area around that steel barrier was pretty tranquil. see, that's what you get when you build walls, america, tranquility. that's the last thing we need more of in this country more peaceful scenes like that. wait, that couldn't have been cnn's point, could it? now it's getting confusing. we will have to call jim acosta once he gets back from latest mission and

clear this up. in the meantime we want to give you some idea how stupid and buffoonish the wall coverage has been in case you missed it. why contrast there was one fascinating story about immigration this week. it didn't mention borders or walls. it's from an upcoming edition of "60 minutes" on cbs. a researcher describes what is about to happen to this country's labor market thanks to the growth of artificial intelligence. watch this. >> ai will increasingly replace repetitive jobs, not just for blue collar work but a lot of the white collar work. a lot of things will become automated. we will have automated stores, automated restaurants. and all together in 15 years, that's going to displace about 40% of jobs in the world. >> tucker: 40% of the world's jobs approaching half. as lee warns in the segment

all jobs are at risk, ohio end, attorneys, for example, but it's the remaining low skilled jobs that are most likely to disappear. professional driving, for example, taxis, trucks, delivery vehicles, 5 million americans now do that as a living to support families wages. self-driving cars could put them all out of work very soon. not just them. store clerks, waiters, cooks, they are in imminent danger, too. just about any repetitive job is at risk of going away. automation is accelerating, this is real. it's going to have a really unimaginable effect on what do for a living and on american society itself. our country's low skilled workers already live in a precarious spot. their wages stagnated for decades. millions of them are not really workers at all but get by on disability payments or other government programs. some don't even survive. they are overdosing and committing suicide as steadily higher rates as you know. in the next few things if

anything things will get even worse. some of the last remaining options for these workers are going to vanish and there is nothing obviously waiting to replace those jobs. this is happening. so what is washington doing about it? well, nothing. but not just nothing. worse than that. our policymakers are exacerbating the problem. making it far more painful and harder to solve. at the very moment that millions of american jobs are about to vanish, their top priority literally the top priority here is importing millions of new low skilled workers. both parties want that. it's insanity. now, to be clear, as we have said before, we are not attacking illegal immigrants. they are doing exactly what we would do if he we lived in honduras. we would try to come here. that's under standable. what is baffling, what is impossible to understand is that our policymakers haven't thought any of this through and they don't care to. questions about what are all these people going to do for a living 10 years from now

when the jobs they expect to fill are gone? and most pres presently. thanks to technology, their labor, middle class labor is worth less than it ever has been. as a result of that our middle class has less power and less economic security. mass immigration makes them even weaker. it's simple economics, supply and demand. the one thing they do have and here's where washington should pay close attention is the vote. this is still a democracy. and if our policymakers keep pushing americans with lunatic economic policies like, this you are going to start to see voters vote for some very radical candidates. very radical. that's guaranteed. this is exactly how revolutions start. wise leaders would already know that political commentator david paul to an has thought deeply about this subject for many years and he joins us tonight. thanks very much for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> tucker: the equation

seems really simple. the less economic power voters have the more likely they are to express their frustration politically and the more volatile your system and your society becomes. am i missing something? >> you nailed the point. to think of it this way, a decade ago we experienced the great recession. we experienced 10% unemployment. look at the societal upheaval that caused. the political upheaval. it gave barack obama most majority a majority of the vote. led to the tea party. you could argue, in fact, i would that our in attention to the blue collar crisis that came with the great recession directly led to donald trump. and that with 10% unemployment, if you double that. that is the low end of what experts estimate will be the upheaval caused by artificial intelligence, ai. the political consequences are manifest. not just this expert on "60 minutes," it's a norm now to expect that it could go as high as 47, 50%, especiallifully a developed country like the united

states nor northern europe. >> tucker: there are lots of arguments for mass low wage immigration and some of them are perfectly reasonable. there is a moral argument if we could help people we should. i don't think that's crazy. i don't see the economic argument for it under the circumstances that you just described. it is supply and demand. if you increase the supply, you increase the demand for good blue collar jobs. the problem is fewer blue collar jobs already for the american working class. another way to think about, this we paid more attention with the advent of donald trump, we paid more attention to the white working class in america. belatedly. a way to think about, this even if you are not particularly sympathetic to their plight, they are like the canary in the coal mine. in other words, as you just alluded, it's going to start -- what's happened to them and a black blue collar workers as well is going to hit the educated workforce,

the white collar employment that is seen in, say, big law. right? so in big law, a huge portion of big law, especially in the early years is document review. that's already been hit by ai. and that's only begun. physicians may be more threatened than nurses. because a lot of physicians simply read symptoms and offer diagnosis. that's certainly going to be automated. in other words, it's only begun in the white collar world. and i think we can look at what's happened to our blue collar economy as sort of a warning for all of us. >> tucker: so why -- i mean, everything that you have said is well-known and there have been a number of pieces written about it and i don't think anyone really denies the inevitability of a lot of the changes you just described. why do our policymakers' position everything will be fine just because. >> obviously a tech utopia variable here. and also there is, of course, other factors. right, the democratic party is dependent on hispanic

vote. and the -- and i would say hispanic leaders, not necessarily the average hispanic voter. obviously highly concerned about the crisis in central america and support the -- sort of the at least not curtailing the current levels of immigration but, and, of course, corporate part of the republican party has always supported low skill labor and really what you are talking about really is an issue that transcends both parties in a sense that because it transcends the sort of -- both party's elites are inattentive to the crisis. we know the problem. >> tucker: that's for sure. >> the incentives. to put it simply we know the problem. the problem is agreed upon by experts. our political incentives are not to address the problem because where is the money? it's with google. it's with, you know coch.

two ends of both parties that want to increase immigration and increase the supply of low scale labor. this issue transcends, you can increase the supply of high skilled labor. you can give increasing emphasis to immigrants who bring college education. >> tucker: right. that's not what we're doing. 50% of the people we are admitting don't have more than a high school degree and many have less. nothing against them but that's not the point. david, thank you very much. great to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: austan goolsbee joins us tonight. professor, great to see you. >> yeah, thank you for having me back, tucker. >> tucker: so the position of both parties really and it is both parties, it's not just the democrats, is that yeah, we have seen automation before and these people will somehow new jobs will appear and these people take it and everything will be fine. given that almost no economics professors predicted the crash of 2008,

i, for one, am for replacing all economics professors with computers with ai. and if my dream came true, you and all of your colleagues would be immediately out of a job. would you have the same posture toward automation as do you now if that happened? >> well, as you know, probably, tucker, i teach at a business school and business schools and a lot of professional schools demand has been down and there is pressure. my view of automation is if you look at the jobs numbers, technology destroys jobs and technology creates jobs. so we lost 5.5 million jobs last month. but we added 5.8 million jobs last month. so, i don't think the fact that some technologies are going to come in and replace specific jobs by any means suggests that the unemployment rate is just going to go up to 50% and there is going to be nothing for people to do. certainly the history has not shown that. >> tucker: actually, the

history has shown massive disruption. i actually pulled the numbers. so in 1984, the head of the uaw representing, obviously, auto workers in lansing, michigan said, quote: we don't look at automation as job elimination, basically what you just said. we look at it as a way of making cars much higher quality. lansing represented 14,500 workers. a little more than 5,000 in lansing. other factors intervened, trade was one of them. automation was the main one. so, actually, a lot of those workers didn't get better jobs as you well know. so, why should would he be as hopeful as you are? >> no. you just changed what i said. that is a demonstration that technology can eliminate jobs. >> tucker: right. >> and technology can create other jobs. and the unemployment rate is less than 4% despite having 100 years of technological change. so the argument that there is a fixed number of jobs and that every machine that replaces one falls prey to the fallacy that people who

answer the phone are no longer operators pulling out cords and plugging them in to other cords. >> tucker: i understand. the unemployment rate is one of many measures and pretty inprecise measure as you know. >> okay, there is 150 million people with jobs in this country which means despite losing millions of jobs due to technology, we have added tens of millions of jobs. >> tucker: but wages, hold on. but what you are not taking account of, of course, are the people who are out of labor market for good who really should be in the labor market and there are many millions of them. but also you are not taking into account what they make. so wages at the lower end haven't really moved for decades. here making the old fashioned democratic argument but it's true. my question is how does adding more people to the labor market help? >> you are making a fallacy when say that we're going to lose all the jobs and then here are going to be these immigrants to take what few

jobs are left. fallacy there is when the number of jobs goes down, the immigrants leave. that's what happened in the great recession a number of illegal immigrants went down by 2 million. >> tucker: so when you offer someone citizenship, free healthcare, free education, housing vouchers and free food, all things they don't have in their own country, you sort of. >> no one offered them that. >> tucker: i don't know. i guess you haven't been reading the news. the mayor of new york city has offered free healthcare to new york city. >> i have read the news. >> tucker: what do you mean we didn't offer that? >> immigrants leave. immigrants leave when there are not economic opportunities. >> tucker: hold on. we're almost out of time. i want to answer straightforwardly a very simple question. >> okay. >> tucker: we are staring down the barrel of this great disruption. we both agree it's coming. not great news for millions of americans. why would you add to that more low skilled workers? how does that help americans? honestly? >> the reason that you would add extra workers in the united states is because you

probably saw the national center for health statistics came out this week saying that the fertility rate of the native born population is not enough to sustain the population size of the united states. >> tucker: why not encourage them and making it easier for the have more. >> we topght bring in some working population to pay our social security. >> tucker: how grotesque is that? >> it is not grotesque. >> tucker: it's actually disgusting that you just said that why wouldn't you help your own people afoward to have more children? why is the obvious answer import other people to have children? >> have more children? >> tucker: people don't have kids because they can't afford it? >> our birth rate has gone up down, tucker. when you say you can't afford to have children. >> tucker: why wouldn't you make it as easy as you possibly could for american citizens to have kids? why wouldn't you pause have and people want. >> you and i can agree on that. we should. >> tucker: that wasn't on your list of solutions. just import people for higher fertility rate.

>> it's not working in 50 out of 50 states. >> tucker: when is it tried. >> that rate is not high enough. >> tucker: name a place it's been tried oh it hasn't been tried we don't care. >> we have expanded the child tax credit and series of things to have kids. >> tucker: yeah. actually we really haven't. but, professor, thank you. >> child tax credit. >> tucker: maybe the lamest possible answer. thank you very much. democrats are very worried about the security risk that a few russians with facebook access pose to our country. they hacked our democracy. yet, they are not concerned about millions of people we know nothing about streaming into our country and stealing over a million social security numbers? why is that? after the break, we will tell you. ♪ ♪ ices. jim! you're in! but when you have high blood pressure and need cold medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. coricidin hbp is the #1 brand that gives powerful cold symptom relief without raising your blood pressure. coricidin hbp.

♪ ♪ >> tucker: maria is an anchor over at npr state radio, publicly funded radio she is also apparent lay credentialed expert on immigration. she must be because she recently lectured the rest of the country not allowed to use the term illegal immigrant. for that she said it was immoral to detain the migrant children crossing the border because pedophiles would get jobs taking care of those children. we are not kidding, actually. you can look that up. now she has a new nugget of wisdom. border security is entirely irrelevant. how does she know? 9/11 proves it. >> you sound like you don't think the democratic response was as robust as it could have been. >> because the problem with the democratic response is they are continuing to play into this narrative of oh my god border security, border security.

guys, i have been talking about this story for 30 years. for 30 years there has been the neurosis about border security. the greatest terror attack in our country did not happen because someone crossed that border. it happened in our city because they got off a plane. it begins to feel like the wheels are just spinning, spinning, spinning, talking about border security. >> tucker: okay. she has been talking for 30 years. maybe the first time have you heard her but there you go back in reality, meanwhile, there are some lessons we learn from 9/11 in case you don't recall. and the main one was we ought to know who is actually in our country and what they are doing here. particularly if they are from somewhere else. the 9/11 hijackers boarded their planes using their real names but they routinely used fraudulent identities and fake documents in the lead-up to the attack and that's why congress on a bipartisan basis passed something called the real i.d. act. that was a decade ago and possible to say dangerous people ought to be kept out of america and those are no legal right to be here ought to be made to leave.

now that former consensus is hate speech and, instead, it's our country's obligation, they are telling us, to let tens of millions of people we know nothing about settle here and if they use fake documents to get here or work here that's not a big deal. if it bothers you it's your problem. shut up. meanwhile in 2016 an irs report found that more than a million americans had their social security numbers stolen by illegal aliens and were never even informed of that fact by their government. but that's not a threat. keep in mind. we have only been hearing for two years about the real threat, the real threat is russians with laptops and internet access. that's the threat. the russians exploited a massive back door into the foundation of our democracy. >> moscow's attack on american democracy. >> the work by russian agencies to try to destabilize american democracy. >> everything you need to know about the threat to our democracy. >> you have republicans who are silent and seemingly okay with this kind of

attack on our democracy. >> there is no question that russia attacked us. >> attacks, ladies and gentlemen, on our constitution. >> attack on the integrity on our election. >> an attack on our democracy. >> the first time we have had an adversary attack us that we have not responded. >> tucker: all reading from the same script. our leadership class in this country is really sick. and that's obvious now. the crisis is not only at our border it's here in washington with the people in charge decided the very question of border security is not worthy of conversation and if you push it, you are immoral and it's just the whole thing is irrelevant. so irrelevant they are not even paying attention. including one the commentators over on cnn yesterday who found her nails more interesting than anything having to do with criminals crossing the border. watch this. >> job loss extensive study of arizona. conflicting studies. even if i were to grant you that point, yes, there are.

>> no. >> that's fake news to say they are not. it's fake news. >> if you. >> b.s. to say it's equal to the real data. >> it's not b.s. even if i were to -- >> [sigh] >> even if i were to grant you that. >> nails. >> crime rate should be zero. you can do your nails. do you know who can't do their nails are people who have been killed, anna, by dangerous known illegal aliens who have been allowed to stay in this country because of the leftist policies people like you promote. >> tucker: that's as much cnn as i have had this year and it's enough. mollie hemingway a senior editor at "the federalist" and joins us tonight. so, mollie, in a functional city, functional capital city the debate would not be about whether or not there was a problem or whether or not borders were appropriate. it would be about the details how to fix what is manifestly and obviously a problem. is it your conclusion like at least half the city doesn't believe there is a problem? >> it is very bizarre to watch people talk about this. i mean, obviously, we have hit a government shutdown.

we have had story after story of problems at our southern border and we do have other border problems. we have other issues that are in play. the leaders here should be sitting down and working out a solution. and they are not taking it seriously. also the media don't seem to be taking it very seriously. they hit this issue about an inch deep. i think the average american might have a better understanding of the complexity of the situation than the average reporter at times. >> tucker: if you are a republican senator and your solution and i think this is actually what is happening, your solution to this problem is to give citizenship, reward people who came here illegally not just people taken here by their parents as small children but people who came here volition nally knowing it was illegal giving them citizenship are you missing the point of the conversation? >> it's the threat to the rule of law. the first thing you have as an agreement to abide by certain laws. when people come here illegally that undermines that rule of law that undermines the fabric of the country. it's important that people have a shared agreement. to hand out citizenship to

people without thinking about that and thinking about what harm is done when people break laws, including our border laws is really to not understand what a country is. >> tucker: why am i living in fear that i will accidentally violate a law and be humiliated and punished when our leaders are telling us it's totally cool when people break the law. >> right. if we use a fake i.d., we are punished for it and we should be. and if other people do it, sometimes there is either a slap on the hand or nothing major done about that. and that does create -- it loosens the binds. >> tucker: are you going to keep following the law? >> yes. >> tucker: i am. kind of an idiot. do you know what i mean? everyone is getting rewarded for ignoring it why am i like the last dumb person in america worried about paying all my taxes. >> yes, it does. when you see people getting away with things. you wonder if you are just the dummy who is following the law while nobody else is. >> tucker: that is corrosive. mollie hemingway with everything you say. thank you. the president say the democrats are ignoring the border because they don't care about borders or the

dangers that might come across it. >> the democrats, which i have been saying all along, they don't give a damn about crime. they don't care about crime. they don't care about gang members coming in and stabbing people and cutting people up. we're spending a fortune on trying to stop drugs. and they pour in through the border. i see it more now than ever before. the democrats don't care about the border and they don't care about crime. >> tucker: well, democrats do care about borders if you are going to be poo dan particular about it. they care about preventing them from existing. >> a wall is an immorality it's not what we're as a nation. >> this for a group of people a lot of whom are employers and children who pose no imminent threat to the united states. >> it's in our laws that people are allowed to come to our borders and ask for asylum. >> this border wall thing is about controlling the browning of america. >> and it is not about

securing the borders. it is about xenophobic, racist, big gouted beliefs. >> they are telling you the existential threat to america is a bunch of poor refugees a thousand miles away. >> he manufactures crises like immigrants seeking legal refuge. >> tucker: this is not the only country where these debates or the reality of people moving across borders without permission is unfolding. in italy, something very similar is happening. italian investigators recently stopped a human smuggling operation, one that brought islamic extremist into europe. they were posing as asylum seekers. so far no one has accused the italian police of racism. why is that? nigel farage, great to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: you watched the debate of what is happening at our southern border in the united states. does it remind you of things you have seen in europe.

>> four years ago when the mediterranean crisis broke i said in the european parliament we must not let our passion imperil our civilization because isis will use the mediterranean route to get their operatives into europe. sure enough last year we were warned by interpol up to 50 jihaddists had come into italy already and today this gang, as you have announced has been found, it's been busted and they have been bringing jihadis in. what clearer lesson can there be of the great self-harm you can do to your face civilization. safety of your citizens if you don't send out a message that people cannot just illegally come into your country. i see what's going on today down in texas. i would sty americans just look at this news story. look at isis preying on the weakness of government over borders and that tells me that trump is absolutely right with everything that

he is saying. >> tucker: what's so interesting is that y'all have been having these debates longer than we have been in the united states. only trump got the debate out in the open to the extent that it has been. it does seem like the consensus in europe is changing. i read a story today about even the left in europe is starting to think maybe borders are important. >> yeah. i mean. we have reached a point where, you know, amongst the general population. over 70% in most countries people are saying whoa, this is crazy. and, you know, tucker, it's not just terrorism. if you look at what's happened in places like sweden, what's happened in places like germany where huge numbers of people from a completely different culture have settled in those cities with all sorts of other sexual crime and problems that have come to. so overwhelmingly, europeans this madness has to stop. and we are seeing political change. now, we are not seeing it from mrs. merkel. we are not seeing it from

president macron of france. i think what you are going to see in may this year, in elections to the european parliament as is a massive shift in terms of political direction controlling borders is becoming fashionable again in european politics and can i say not before time. >> tucker: that's for sure we can learn that lesson i hope we will. nigel farage. thank you. so cher, the actress, singer and famous person is not a fan of donald trump but suddenly she is angry and demanding a border wall. what is that? mark steyn knows the answer. he joins us after the break ♪ if you have moderate to severe

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today she tweeted at nancy pelosi in all caps, naturally, for trump this is political but real people are really suffering. nancy, you are a hero, let him have his f'ing money, people will starve, lose their homes, be unable to call doctors, emogi, emoji. author and columnist mark steyn spent his formative years studying the rosetta stone so he is joining us tonight to translate that tweet. what is that? >> before anything else, i want to say that trevor noah comedy routine was hilarious. that's why they need 57 writers for comedy gold like that. it's harder to do don't try this at home boys and girls, it's harder to do than you think. cher. >> tucker: can you stop right there and let me just say i couldn't agree with you more. i'm not even attacking the guy for his politics. talent levels along with, you know, lot of other markers of societal health

have declined, i think. >> i'm not attacking him. trevor noah is my fellow commonwealth citizen from south africa and i don't want to attack him i don't know what those 57 comedy writers are doing all day. cher seems to be the one person in the country who actually believes in government shutdown dinner theater. she looks out of her wind windo. she can't see over the border wall around her own estate and she thinks the streets are full of people who are dying of disease. their corpses are going unburied. there are flies all around the mound of corpses outside. tens of millions of americans have died. for god sake give trump his wall. and you can say a lot of things about celebrities. but they have extremely refined loser detectors. the greatest moment on election night 2016 was when cher went to the hillary victory party at the javits

center in new york. walked into an empty ballroom and realized that hillary, the loser, was stinking up the joint and all the celebs had fled and she got out of there. basically she just looked at chuck and nannies the other night and made the same conclusion. that this is a loser for democrats and they should just get over it, give him what he wants and move on. >> tucker: a human carbon monoxide detector. she knows when you are dying before you do. >> that's right. >> tucker: i want to ask you about this. beto o'rourke, lots of presidential candidates are revealing more than you ever want to know on social media. beto o'rourke is going further. on thursday he used instagram to broadcast his trip to the dentist. is this, a, imagine gla media. be a profound lack of self-awareness or too much

nitrous oxide. >> unfortunately he was seeing the dentist. i was hoping it was a full blown root canal. we didn't get that lucky. something slightly wrong when cher is talking about border policy and the next president of the united states is saying here i am, having my teeth cleaned. all that i would actually say about that is when i got this huge jpg in my inbox i saw these gleaning white tablets staring at me. i thought at first that was the best design for the border wall that trump had come up with. just a sort of long line of beto o'rourke choppers along the rio grande. >> tucker: like a crystal installation. >> the politicization of pop music and sports and now we have the politicization of dental high generalist. and, you know, soon no right wing people will be able to get in to see a dental high ginnist. the last thing we need is

nor republican candidates with bad teeth. this is not as innocent a move as it looks, tucker. >> tucker: i'm going to the dentist soon for my annual checkup. >> you will never get in. >> tucker: i will ask for the bobby kennedy implants that he got somehow. >> stand well back. i don't want to see that in high definition. >> tucker: mark steyn you are the best. thank you. >> thanks a lot, tucker. >> tucker: because this show covers news that is important regardless of where it is from, we are going to bring you details of this story. mysterious signal from another galaxy picked up at a canadian on or about tore. we will not speculate only report what happened. time for final exam. you will find out if the experts have good short-term memories and you can test your own. that's after the break. ♪ one serving... ...once a day... ...with nutrients that support 6 vital functions... ...and one healthy you.

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♪ >> tucker: well on this show over the years we have kept you consistently informed of any weird activity in the skies above us. most shows do not do that they are too embarrassed but we are not. why would we be. if alien life exists it is more like we will hear from it before we see it a item scope in canada reports picking up a strange powerful signal from far, far away. what is it exactly. brett larson has been looking into it for us he is fox news headlines 24/7 on sirius xm and he joins us tonight with more. >> this is definitely one of those what kind of stories. this is something called a fast radio burst. it was detected multiple times and has many scientists saying we need more data. so a couple things can be a fast radio burst. it could be a neutron star with a strong magnetic

field. two new tron stars colliding a black hole, perhaps, and yes could actually be an alien. latest discovery comes almost by chance from something called chime, it's the canadian hydrogen intensity mapping experimenting. the system wasn't even completely set up when they discovered the burst. now the fast radio burst found are from a galaxy very, very far away. one and a half billion light years to be exact. it is just the second time that a repeat of a fast radio burst has been detected. and the object chime found produced actually 6 different burst. arrow technical reports that the dozens of fast radio bursts identified only one other has produced multiple bursts. this is actually kind of significant. more and more scientists are looking into the skies with more precise instruments to find these signals and they don't last for very long. this isn't something you are going to hear. like a fraction of a second. and it shows up on a graph.

some astronomers have considered the idea that these bursts can be from intelligent life elsewhere and with more scientists searching for them we will likely find out more about them and find more of them. i think it's alien. i'm going to go out on a limb and say i think it's alien. and i think it's fascinating that you point a radio receiver to the sky and we pick up radio signals. granted, there are scientific explanations for it. >> tucker: so, to flip it around. i want to be sure i understand. this nothing about it that i really understand. there is no hard consensus that this is a naturally occurring fen numb? there are serious scientists who believe this could be an intentional act, the sending of these radio signals. >> it could be -- it could be from the collapse of a planet. it could be signals that come out of a black hole. and if it is signals that come out of a black hole, that's awesome, too. because we can then learn more about them. it could be a neutron star it could be two of them colliding. again, that's also a very cool thing that we caught

it. we can now hear the signature that it makes when these things happen in the skies above us. and the galaxy is literally beyond the mill can i way. milky way. if it's alien get jody foster. build a spaceship and send her. >> tucker: i don't know if i would send jody foster now. >> i know. >> tucker: good to see you. >> thanks for having me. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: time now for final exam where we pit two well-known smart people against each other to see who has been paying the closest attention to the news over the week. our defending champion once again fox national correspondent lauren blanchard who nice belie as fierce streak of competitiveness. her challenger tonight sean spicer former white house press secretary and senior advisor and spokesman for america first action. great to see you both. you are a brave man, sean. >> i know.

>> i'm a little nervous. >> tucker: like the fifth to come in here no. >> i like her. i have been watching tapes. i have been studying us weekly, you name it i have been reading it all this week. >> tucker: we will see. for our viewers i will repeat the rules. hands on the buzzer first one buzzed in gets to answer the question. you must wait until i finish asking it before you answer it by saying your name. every correct answer is worth a single point. each incorrect answer detracts a point from your total. best of five wins. are you ready? >> let's do it. >> tucker: starting with multiple choice tonight. in the name of gender equality the new california governor gavin newsom says we should not call his wife the first lady. which name will she go by a first partner. b, first spouse. c, first mate. [buzzer] >> tucker: a. >> first partner says sean spicer. >> i thought i married well

10 plus years ago but i didn't know how well until today. my wife jennifer newsom, our first partner. thank you, jen. >> tucker: that was impressive. that was far more impressive than gavin newsome. if the wind blows he actually picks up and floats away. pay for that later in the show. question two, in a tense back and forth at the white house this week, kellyanne conway called the cable news reporter a smart as. who was that reporter? >> jim acosta. >> tucker: that's how you pronounce it jim acosta? was it jim acosta? >> i almost fell off my chair, okay. kellyanne conway owning jim acosta. >> jim, make sure that goes viral. by the way this is why i'm one of the only people around here who even gives you the time of day. and let me just get back in your face because you are such smart ass most of the time and i know you want this to go viral. a lot of these people don't like you.

>> tucker: amazing. how much of that whole thing is real? you have got to kind of wonder. i wonder. question three, you may remember this moment from november of 2017 when the president awkwardly thank fiji water during a speech. that same brand of water is back in the news after the company pulle pulled a publicity stunt on the red carpet. what was that stunt. >> there was a model carrying it she was behind everybody in the photos. the fiji water girl. >> tucker: photo bombed? >> photo bombed. >> tucker: is that true? >> that is fiji water girl in the background. social media users were very quick to notice the same girl holding a tray of fiji water in the background expertly photo bombing i celebs on the red carpet. see her here behind tony. >> again perfect position behind jude grier and now catching jamie lee curtis' cam no matter what angle she was always in that background. >> tucker: guerrilla

marketing. how are you feeling, sean. >> scared. >> tucker: you have been in this position before. >> i have. >> tucker: you ran the wrestling team in high school. you know the feeling of back and surge strength in winning. see if you still have it. question four. a big electronics conference in las vegas has unveiled a lot of interesting new gadgets. one of them is a rolling suitcase also known as rolling luggage. what is so special about this rolling suitcase? >> it will follow you. >> tucker: really. >> follows i downtown -- hands free. >> tucker: okay. is that true? is lauren right about the suitcase? >> carry on luggage that you do not have to pull through the airport. the bag will follow you. >> yeah. i want that. i want that very much. >> alert you if someone tries to steal it it's not fool proof as that lady just found out. the suitcase will be available on amazon in the next couple of months for about $800.

that's $800 worth of lazy. >> tucker: you spend a lot of time reading the news. >> i take it very serious. >> tucker: i'm impressed by that final question. this according to our judges is a 2-point question. the question is this. >> tucker: an iconic new york city skyscraper which used to be the tallest building in the world is being sold off by an investment firm in abu dhabi for about a billion dollars. which building is it? lauren blanchard? >> it's the chrysler building. >> tucker: the chrysler building? >> chrysler building. >> chrysler building was already sold off. >> was it the chrysler building. >> the iconic chrysler building in new york city truly iconic is up for sale. >> $800 million is what it went for in 2008. that was the purchase price. now the talk is it could stick around that number, possibly lower. we don't know. >> tucker: you are just a

savage. i don't feel bad for you. she owned it. >> tucker: we have upped. >> i would like to say it's the. [buzzer] the buzzer. >> tucker: we are now going to pay off your mortgage. we are giving you the eric wemple mug mug then. that's what you want eric wemple. not even sure. thank you, lauren. you are a brave man and a fierce competitor yourself. >> in 2020. >> tucker: in 2020. that's it for this week's final exam. pay close attention. lauren blanchard attention to the news each week and tune in every thursday to see if you beat professionals. we'll be right back. about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12

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♪ >> tucker: the investigation continues tonight into the progressive activist and big time democratic donor ed buck of california who recently had a second dead body found in his west hollywood home. trace gallagher has more for us tonight from los angeles. trace? >> tucker, the man who was found dead monday morning inside the home of ed buck is now identified as timothy michael dean a 55-year-old black male. the cause of death is unknown but a drug overdose appears likely. timothy dean worked at sak's fifth avenue and once worked in the adult film industry. he is the second man in 18 months to die inside buck's west hollywood home. in july 2017, 26-year-old jemele moore a black male

overdosed on methamphetamine. there wasn't enough evidence to charge ed buck but in a journal entry moore wrote i've become addicted to drugs and the worst one at that ed buck is the one to thank. he gave me my first injection of crystal meth. it was very painful but after all the troubles i became addicted. moore's family has released a statement saying quote if a young white man was found dead in a wealthy black man's apartment with syringes and drugs all around. that black man would have been handcuffed and taken directly to jail. now a 28-year-old black male claims he barely escaped death inside buck's apartment. germane tells daily mail buck flew him from minnesota to l.a. and injected him with methamphetamine. i was so scared. i felt death walked into my soul. i called my mother. i said i feel like is he going to kill me. police are investigating the death of timothy dean now reinvestigating the death of jemele moore democratic politicians are starting to give back his donations.

tucker? >> tucker: trace gallagher, great to see you. we wanted to talk to hillary clinton tonight about her friend ed buck but she was not available. tune in tomorrow to-to-see if she is here. good night from washington. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> sean: welcome to hannity. tonight we are less than one mile away from the u.s.-mexican border in mcallen, texas, where we just wrapped up an exclusive interview with president trump. we're going to bring that you interview in full. that's coming up tonight. now, of course, we are here in texas covering the president's very important trip to the southern border. and today he toured border facilities. he met with officers at a border patrol station. he attended a security briefing and he sat down with the victims of illegal immigration and meanwhile democratic lawmakers, they were 1800 miles away in the comfort of their capitol hill offices where they still refuse to reopen