judge: president donald trump about to join me live tonight. hello, and welcome to justice, i'm jeanine pirro. thanks for being with us. and thanks to all of you for once again making "justice" number one last weekend. if coming up in just a moment, the president of the united states, donald trump, will be calling in to "justice." president trump will headline an all-star lineup tonight with house minority leader kevin mccarthy, congressman jim jordan, my exclusive sit-down with i.c.e. director and dan bongino. but first, my open. ♪ ♪ >> the issue, border security. the wedge?

the partial government shutdown. the collateral damage? federal employees who didn't get a paycheck yesterday. yet they refuse to negotiate, sit for serious talks or work for the safety and security of the american people. their mantra? there is no cry -- crisis at our open, porous borders. their goal? troy donald trump. destroy donald trump. and yesterday reports are an even larger caravan is staging in honduras, about to cause an even greater burden on our border patrol and the system at large. the president has shown he is capable of negotiating. he has gone from a concrete wall to a steel slat barrier, willing to go with any barrier, any physical barrier that you cannot climb over, crawl under, rappel or shoot yourself out of a

cannon over. he's made concessions from $25 billion to $5 billion, from a concrete barrier to a steel one, promising more personnel, detention beds, using technology and electronics to buttress the security and money to address the humanitarian needs. in spite of his negotiating, the democrats refuse to budge. but curiously, there are some democrats peeling away from the rigid, nonnegotiable stance of nancy pelosi. >> well, i can tell you we've had fencing in the past, i'm sure we will in the future. >> there are places where a wall makes sense. but there are a lot of places where it doesn't. >> some fencing, you're saying, is useful. >> some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful. >> if we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our

border safe, all of that is fine. >> well, you have to see what you're talking about here. does it contribute in a smart way to our security. certain physical barriers can make sense along the border, and in a lot of places you already have that. >> i have a solution. there is no question that president trump has the authority to declare a national emergency. the controlling case is youngstown sheet and tube v. sawyer. 343 u.s. 579. the critical operational issue is that only money already authorized and appropriated by congress can be spent. the only serious source of funds are in the military construction bill. this week there was some debate whether that money would come from a line item of $13.1 billion covering housing in afghanistan and iraq or a $13.9

billion line for disaster relief. now clearly, the $13.1 billion should be the line used since i doubt we need to build homes in afghanistan and iraq. but now expect the democrats to go forum shopping if that happens in california where the appeal goes directly to the 9th circus -- circuit -- if the president declares an emergency using the military construction funds. assume they will win. but on an appeal to the supreme court of the united states, they will lose under youngstown. so the only question now is whether or not this is a national emergency, and if you don't think another caravan of thousands moving in a highly organized fashion similar to military convoys with an advanced party, a main body and

a rear party that has exhibited violence along the way with migrants in addition to those from central america from africa, pakistan, yemen, afghanistan, india, bangladesh, nepal and more is a national emergency, then you're out and out crazy. the president has been sitting in the oval office since christmas eve. he's ready. if the democrats aren't coming to the table, the time to declare a national emergency is now. and that's my open. if you like my opening statements, you'll love my new book, new york times number one bestseller "liars, leakers and liberals: the case against the anti-trump conspiracy." and joining me now by phone, the president of the united states, donald trump. good evening, mr. president. >> hi, jeanine. judge: thank you so much for

joining us tonight. is there an emergency at the southern border? should we not now use the emergency funds and the powers that you have in your possession? >> so we have a humanitarian crisis, to put it mildly. people are trying to get in by the tens of thousands. they're rushing the border, there's right now in honduras -- a country we pay a lot of money to, i think foolishly because they don't help us, but right now you have another caravan forming, and it's going to be the biggest one yet. we stopped the last one. you see what's going on in tijuana, they couldn't get through because we got a wall up. the military's been fantastic, border patrol has been incredible and i.c.e. is, you know, these are brave people that do a great job. and we stopped them. but there's another big one forming. we need a wall, very simple. whether you call it a steel barrier, wall, doesn't matter, but we need a very strong structure. judge: but by waiting to build the wall using those funds that

are available to you in a a national emergency, aren't you negating the point of the emergency itself? >> well, i have the absolute right to call a national emergency. other presidents have called many national emergencies for things of lesser importance, frankly, than this. and i have the right to do it. i'd rather see the democrats come back from their vacation and act. they're not acting, and they're the ones that are holding it up. it would take me 15 minutes to get a deal done, and everybody could go back to work. but i'd like to see them act responsibly, and they're not acting responsibly, and that's it. we could be -- i'm in the white house, and most of them are in different locations. they're watching a certain musical in a very nice location -- judge: of course, in puerto rico watching "hamilton." >> the whole thing is ridiculous. we have a very important thing to do. we have to have border security, and we have to get people getting paid again very quickly. judge: but what about, as this

happens, hook, you were in the white house -- look, you were in the white house during the christmas holidays and over new year's, and you've been there ever since. nancy pelosi's in hawaii over the holidays, now she's in puerto rico with a bunch of democrats and lobbyists, you know, enjoying the sun and partying down there. but what makes you think that these people willing to cut a deal? if you have shown your ability to negotiate by changing to a slat, all of their demands as it relates to, you know, technology, electronic fencing and all of the other things, the humanitarian aid, they sit there, they don't even look you in the eye. what makes you think that they're going to in any huawei kay in any way cave? if they said six years ago we need a wall, we need a wall, but now you're the president they don't want a wall, what makes

you think they're coming back? >> well, they might not. we're asking for $5.6 billion which is way less than what ore presidents -- other presidents have been talking about. this should have been done 30 years ago, 20 years ago, 10 years ago. this should have been been done by others. if you look at jerusalem, if you look at the embassy moving to jerusalem, every president promised that, they never did it. i did it. you look at so many other things that i've done. we're going well with a lot of, we're doing well with china, with north korea. you know, i was left a very tough hand. but this was one of the problems, our southern border. and it's, you know, thousands and thousands of people are coming in, and we have human smugglers, we have traffickers, we have people -- the biggest drug dealers in the world. and they're pouring through the parts of the border -- they don't go through your areas that are port of entry, they go through areas where you don't

have any protection whatsoever. and it's really very sad and very, very dangerous and very bad for our country. a lot of crime comes from that location. judge: you know, i interviewed ron i have tell la, the acting director of i.c.e., and he said that there was enough fentanyl seized by them last year that could kill every american in this country. we know that 90% of the heroin comes through the southern border, and, you know, what we also know is that, or you know, there are 800,000 federal employees who didn't get a check yesterday. you're sitting there waiting for a deal. the democrats are not sitting with you. if this is an emergency -- if this isn't an energy, i don't know what is. >> well, i haven't actually left the white house in months. and in all fairness, i'm doing a lot of other work. that's a very important element of what i'm doing, because we have to get the southern border done. and i've been here virtually every night, i guess every night other than one day i flew to iraq and then to germany to see

our troops, and it was great. to see them, was great. the level of love they have for this country is incredible. so i flew and then came back. i'm not even sure i actually missed a night, per se. but basically, i've within with here for many -- i've been here for many months in the white house. i'm a worker. i'm like you, i'm a worker. judge: you are a worker. >> frankly, i'm ready, willing and able to get a deal done. they think it's politics. i think it's bad politics. this country wants to have protection at the border. many of our crimes, much ms-13 comes through the border, drugs, a big proportion of the drugs, you know, that we have from this country in this country come through the border. the human trafficking where they tie women up, they put duct tape over their mouth, electrical tape, and they bring them and they traffic in women and children, and they come through the border. the areas that i'm talking about putting a wall. we do that, it can't happen anymore. it's unbelievable. it's only politics.

that's the game they're playing. i actually think it's bad politics for them. judge: so then, you know, when nancy pelosi won, you very warmly in november congratalatedded her -- congratulated her, and are you still confident you can get a deal done with her, or has that ship sailed? >> no idea. no idea. well, we won also. you know, we won the senate. judge: right, right. >> and there are those that would say that the senate is more important. and, for the most part, i campaigned for the senate. judge: yes. >> we got very little credit. you just said they won, we actually picked up additional seats in the senate. we beat incumbents, and almost everywhere i went we won. but, you know, i'm one person, and the house had many races, and yet we won some great races where i went. but we won the senate, jeanine, we picked up two additional seats. judge: all right. so for the last time begin that they don't want to seem to come

to the table, that you have done all the negotiating, why not declare -- >> well, that might happen. but i want to give them a chance to see if they can act responsibly. judge: okay. >> they should act responsibly. we're talking about the border, and i have to say a lot of the people that aren't getting their checks are letting us know we don't care, you've got to solve the crisis at the border. it's humanitarian crisis, and it's national security, it's very important. judge: okay. and it's interesting, that's what i heard yesterday from some of the border patrol agents. now, i want to move on to another subject. new york times reported that the fbi opened a counterintelligence investigation the day after you fired james comey in may of '17. and the investigation was whether you were actively working for russia or unwittingly. so i'm going to ask you, are you now or have you ever worked for russia, mr. president? >> i think it's the most

insulting thing i've ever been asked. i think it's the most insulting article i've ever had written. and if you read the article, you'd see that they found absolutely nothing. but the headline of that article, it's called "the failing new york times" for a reason, they've gotten me wrong for three years. they've actually gotten me wrong for many years before that. but you rook at what's going on, you know, i fired james comey. i call him lien james comey because he was a terrible liar, and he did a terrible job as the fbi director. look at what happened with the hillary clinton e-mails and the hillary clinton investigation, one of the biggest screw-ups that anybody's ever seen as an investigation. and what happened after i fired him? andrew mccabe, peter strzok, his lover, lisa page, they did it. and, you know, they're all gone. most of those people, many, many people from the top ranks of the fbi, they've all been fired or they had to leave are. and they're all gone. this is what they were talking about. and, obviously, nothing was

found. and i can tell you this, if you ask the folks in russia, i've been tougher on russia than anybody else, any other -- probably any other president period, but certainly the last three or four presidents, modern day presidents. nobody's been as tough as i have from any standpoint including the fact that we've done oil like we've never done it, we're setting records in exporting oil and many other things. which is, obviously, not great for them, because that's what they -- that's where they get their money for the most part. but many other things. so i think it was a great insult. and "the new york times" is a disaster as a paper. it's a very horrible thing they said, and they've gone so far that people that weren't necessarily believers are now big believers, because they said that was a step too far. they really are a disaster of a newspaper. judge: well, you know, when you think about it, the people that were involved in that, all of the people have since been fired or gone whether it's strzok,

page, mccabe. and also the steele dossier. but the washington times -- "the washington post," i should say, is following up reporting that you went to unusual lengths to keep your conversations with president putin under wraps. why not release the conversation that you had with president putin in helsinki along with some other stuff that might involve fisa, bruce ohr and the whole lot of them? >> well, jeanine, i would, i don't with care. i had a conversation like every president does. i do it with all countries. we had a great conversation. we were talking about israel and securing israel and lots of other things. and it was a great conversation. if i'm not keeping anything under wraps, i couldn't care less. i mean, it's so ridiculous. these people make it up. washington post, that's basically the lobbyist for amazon. you know, he uses that -- bezos has got bigger problems than

anybody right now. [laughter] but bezos uses that as his lobbyist, okay? as far as i'm concerned. and "the washington post" is almost as bad or probably as bad as "the new york times." think of it, i have a one-on-one meeting with putin like i do with every other leader. i have many one-on-one -- nobody ever says anything about it. but with putin they say, oh, what did they talk about? we talked about very positive things because, look, we are beating everybody. our economy is the strongest in the world right now. nobody even close. china's down 38 president. russia's not doing well, its economy. we're doing phenomenally. even though we're paying interest rates because we're normalizing, you know? obama had zero or interest. anybody can do that. and our economy's now better than ever. we're almost at our high with the stock market again. so it's really, can you imagine where they say that i met with putin, i met with every leader just about individually. i meet with moti, i meet with,

in japan i meet with abe, i meet with all of them, but nobody says anything. but i meet with putin, and they make a big deal. anybody could have listened to that meeting, that meeting is up for grabs. you know, the whole russia thing, it's a hoax. it's a terrible hoax. you know it probably better than -- you, gregg jarrett, so -- dan bongino. everybody knows it. and it's really a shame because it takes time, and it takes effort. and everybody knows there was no collusion whatsoever. they have found no collusion, and they won't find collusion because i had nothing to do -- i was a better candidate than hillary clinton. she was a terrible candidate, and the fact is i was obviously a good candidatement i won every debate, i won everything i did, and i won, and i won easily. 306-223, i believe, and that's a big difference in the college, in the electoral college. so that's -- but it's really, it's really a shame, jeanine. such a waste of time.

judge: it is a waste of time, it's a waste of energy, and, you know, some people have to say to themselves how can you deal with all of this. this new york times article, to be absolutely truthful with you, just seems to be another rehash of the same players and the same documents and the same dossier just to keep it going, and they'll keep it going as long as they have. what keeps you going? you've got such fight in you, it is unbelievable. >> well, i guess i have good genes -- [laughter] because somebody said the other day no president should have to go -- judge: that's right. >> -- through what you're going through, mr. president. because i'm going through all of this nonsense, it's all nonsense, but i have to be careful because these are dirty players. they're no good. and you've got the mueller investigation, you've got all this nonsense. there's no collusion, no nothing. and and, you know, they say this should never happen again. never again should this happen. and that's the story. but despite that, we've done more than any other administration by far in the first two years. we've had tremendous success.

judge: all right. and now, of course, little adam schiff, as you call him, is going to be dragging in, and jerry nadler are going to be bringing in michael cohen, an already-proven liar, to congress, convicted of it, are you worried -- >> no, look, i was a client of his. you're supposed to have lawyer/client privilege, but it doesn't matter because if i'm a very honest person, frankly. but he's on trouble on some loans and fraud and taxi cabs and stuff that i know nothing about. and in order to get his sentence reduced, he says, i have an idea, i'll give you some information on the president. well, there is no information. but he should give information maybe on his father-in-law, because that's the one that people want to look at. because where does that money -- that's the money in the family. and i guess he didn't want to talk about -- he's trying to get husband sentence reduced. so it's pretty sad. it's weak and it's very sad to

watch a thing like that. i couldn't care less. judge: what is his father-in-law's name? >> i don't know, but you'll fine out, and you'll look into it because nobody if knows what's going on over there. again, i was a client. he has a law firm. they broke into his law firm sometime early in the morning, i guess, and they took -- this couldn't happen to anybody except you're dealing with mccabe, you're dealing with the remnants of comey. and wait until you see how it all ends up, you watch. mccabe, lisa page, strzok, wait til you see how that all ends up, including some others -- judge: will you release the fisa? we're all waiting for the fisa. >> well, at the right time we will probably do that. if that's necessary, we'll do that. you know, that's very, very important stuff. judge: i know. >> you know, as you know, a lot of bad things happened when a lot of elements of what we're talking about. and at the right time we will probably do that, that's right. judge: all right. and my -- are your lawyers

working to keep the mueller report from being made public? >> well, i can't tell you because i don't devote too much time -- here's the bottom line, there was no collusion. there was no obstruction. there was no anything. so, you know, no calls to russia, no nothing. so, you know, it's all nonsense, jeanine, it's a hoax. it's called the russian hoax or witch, you know, it's a witch hunt. and it's a shame. and, you know, despite that what we're doing is amazing. but actually what we're doing in this too, because we're exposing people that are corrupt. people are being exposed by this that are totally corrupt. a lot of the people that don't get mentioned even in that article today, the phony article in the new york times, there's a lot of corruption, and we're exposing it. and i'm going to put that down someday as one of my greatest achievements. judge: well, i look toward to hearing that -- forward to hearing that that. mr. president, when are you going to get out of the white house? washington after a while gets very depressing.

>> well, i love it, and i love this building, and i do a lot of work in the building. if you looked at what we're doing on the deal with china which nobody was able to take on, and is we're taking it on great, we're doing an incredible deal for our country, when i ended the iran nuclear deal, it's a different country than it was when i came here two years ago. judge: right. >> and all of the trade deals we're making with mexico -- and, by the way, mexico is paying for the wall because the trade deal is billions and billions of dollars better than the old nafta deal. mexico is absolutely paying for the wall. so, i mean, we're doing a great job, and i like doing it. and then we get involved with the russian hoax or, you know, whatever you call it -- judge: distraction. >> you know, it's one of those things, but i love doing it, the whole thing. but this will turn out to be very important because people are going to be exposed that nobody ever thought possible. judge: well, i look forward to that. and i have to ask you another post, last question. you're hearing about all these people looking to run against

you in 2020. your thoughts? >> i'm not worried. so far i love the competition. i love what i see. i love what i see, you know? judge: all right. >> a couple of them aren't running that i was hoping were going to run, they just announced yesterday that they weren't looking. i was sort of looking forward to that. but you're going to have 30 people, i heard as many as 32. and i see nobody, in fact, i guess bruce springsteen -- [laughter] moore, all these guys are saying we're not going to beat him again. we're not -- so they're all going around saying, and, look, we're doing too well. if anybody beat me, we have the greatest unemployment and employment numbers that we've ever had as a country. judge: that's right. >> african-american, hispanic-american, asian-american, the overall number, historically the best numbers we've ever had. the economy is the best economy we've ever had. more people are working today, jeanine, in our country than have ever worked in our country before. i don't know, how does somebody beat that?

we have great trade deals. i cut taxes down to the lowest number that they've been in many years, bigger than the ronald reagan tax cuts. we have anwr. we got rid of the individual mandate on this horrible obamacare, which we'll end up taking care of. watch what's going to happen there. so, you know, we're doing a good job, and i think people see it. judge: who is the one person that you would really like to run against? >> well, i don't want to pick anyone out. you know, a lot of people say biden's doing okay, but he was always a 1-percenter. he ran two or three times, he never got above 1%. and then obama came along and took him off the trash heap, and he became a vice president, and now he's probably leading. but he's basically a 1% guy. he's weak. so we'll see what happens with him. but i think he's leading right now, from what i understand. judge: really? >> but i'll be watching. whoever it is, i think we're going to do just fine. judge: mr. president, i really hope you get out of the white house, i really do. [laughter] i think you deserve a vacation.

>> well, i like the symbol, i'll be honest, i like the symbol of being here. to be totally honest with you, your audience know i'm a straight shooter. i like the symbol of me being here and them being at some play in a nice location having a good time. i like that symbol because i am ready to sign. and they're not. and they're not. so we'll see what happens. and if they don't do it, if they don't come to their senses, you know what i'll do? we'll do a national emergency. we're all set. it's 100%, and i'll have to do that. honestly, we shouldn't have to. they're going to want something from me someday, very important. because i have to sign everything. mitch mcconnell and the republicans have done an incredible job, and they have stuck together like glue. we have tremendous support. judge: good. >> but, you know, they're going to want something from us for one of their favorite little deals. and all of a sudden they're going to find out it's going to be very, very tough for them. we need security at the southern border for our cup.

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president? >> yes, i did. i thought he did a very good job. judge: and what is your take on the issue of the border and how the democrats are handling it given especially that schumer has voted for a border fence eight times, pelosi has voted for a border fence, the way the democrats are behaving in the meetings with the president? what's your opinion? >> look, i've been in all these meetings, and i watched the president -- even when you listened to him tonight, he was calm, just answered the questions. i've watched him in these meetings. he's made offer after offer. the only people in these meetings that have not made a counteroffer are the democrats. the democrats say they're for border security, but who in america believes that border security would not include some form of a barrier? we know that works. we know there is a crisis on the southern -- you know who else said there was a crisis on the southern end of our border? barack obama. who voted for fencing? barack obama, hillary clinton, biden, nancy pelosi twice.

but now because it's president trump they're allowing their own political bias to enter in this for those extreme levels of the democratic party to stop anything from moving x. this is causing real damage. there's 800,000 americans who didn't get a paycheck because nancy pelosi will not compromise. she will not even put an offer on the table x. they're been in power, and what have they done every week they've been in power the government shutdown? they adjourn instead of staying here and solving the problem. judge: you know, congressman, the amazing part of it is is that it's almost as though the illegals are more important to them than the american citizens, than the safety and sovereignty of this country. >> well, what's very concerning to me, they'd rather have open borders than an open government. [laughter] we have sat inside these rooms, and when we had our first meeting in the situation room to

just get the facts on the southern border, the minute secretary nielsen from homeland security went to speak, nancy -- speaker pelosi and senator schumer interrupt, will not let her talk because they don't want to hear the facts. three, four meetings in when we finally get the facts out, she said i just do not believe them. i thought the secretary was very strong, she said, ma'am, those are just the facts. what's most interesting, when we first started these meetings, speaker pelosi could not actually discuss it because she wasn't elected speaker yet. the president even in the last meeting offered her what she wanted. he turned to her and said, okay, nancy, if i open up the government in 30 days, could we have border security? she said not at all. that's why he got up and left, because they will not even go one bit of compromise. and the president has moved from a concrete wall to a steel slat. judge: right. >> i mean, he has moved. and you've heard democrats say they would support part of the wall. judge: a part of the wall,

absolutely. i ran several of -- the sound of them. >> yeah. judge: but the amazing part of this thing is that if the, if the, you know, the american people, 800,000 are not getting a paycheck, and if 90% of the heroin in this country and i don't know what percentage of fentanyl is coming from the southern border and we know that there are gang members coming through, why isn't the american public on to the fact that they don't care about the american people, that if chuck schumer can't eyeball the president, he can't even look in his eyes and they come out smiling and smirking, that, you know, the american people get what's going on here. >> what the american people have to understand, because of the rules of the senate you need 60 votes. so this shutdown would have never taken place unless senator schumer decided he would not provide the 10 votes. because the house, when the republicans were in the majority, sent a compromise over to the senate that gave $5.6

billion in border security. schumer said no, so we went into a shutdown. the president stayed here to solve it, and where did the democrats go? just like they went this weekend. they don't want to come back to the table. and the president is right, we could solve this in 15, 20 minutes. it would be over. and we'll compromise too. i will work with any american that wants to put us, move america forward and actually secure our border and open this government up. judge: all right, i've got 20 seconds, minority leader -- how does this end? >> i'm sorry? judge: how does it end? >> well, how it should and how our government is designed, that we find compromise on both sides, we secure our border just as president obama said there was a crisis and we see that there's a crisis today that the you have to have for border security, yes, some barrier along there. we've seen it work in san diego, el paso, yuma. we know that it works, and we know that we need part of it,

and i appreciate the president being strong and staying, making it happen. judge: we appreciate your being here, minority leader kevin mccarthy. thanks so much. >> thank you. judge: all right. dan bongino still ahead, but next, congressman jim jordan with his take on my exclusive interview with president trump and just what this new information about the fbi and the investigation into the president really means. good evening. ♪ ♪ (avo) life doesn't give you many second chances. but a subaru can. you guys ok? you alright? wow. (avo) eyesight with pre-collision braking. standard on the subaru ascent. presenting the all-new three-row subaru ascent. love is now bigger than ever.

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♪ ♪ judge: president trump speaking to me just minutes ago in a "justice" exclusive. congressman jim jordan joins me now with reaction to that interview and all of the developing news tonight. congress bank, thanks so much for being here -- congressman, thanks so much for being here. all right, your reaction to the president. you heard him tonight here in

the green room. >> yeah, no, the president's doing a great job. regulations reduced, taxes cut, the economy borough -- growing at an unprecedented point, 312,000 jobs added last month,ous of the iran deal, concern out of the iran deal, it's been a great two years, but democrats want to focus on trying to stop him instead of helping the country. judge: well, yeah, it seems they're pretty determined to stop it. even if they look like absolute hypocrites and deny everything they've done in the past -- >> border security wall a few years ago, against it now because it'll help the president -- they're focused solely on stopping the president. think about the first day, brad sherman, they haven't even been in congress for 24 hours, and the congresswoman from michigan says the disgraceful things about the president, and now we've got michael cohen, first big interview -- excuse me,

first big hearing? you know one of the things he's convicted of? lying to congress. go figure. you can't make this stuff up. i mean, you'd laugh if it wasn't so serious. judge: yeah. well, a lot of the stuff is absolutely bizarre. but i want to talk to you about "the new york times" article where the fbi opened an inquiry into whether or not trump was secretly working on behalf of russia. and i asked the president if he is now or has he ever worked for russia, the old mccarthy question. what's your take on this article? you did a lot of investigating -- >> yeah. we're still going to, if the democrats won't shut it all down. two things you've got to remember, who's saying this, who's doing it and when are they doing it. andy mccabe, former deputy director -- judge: fired. >> lied three times under oath. not according to republicans, but according to the inspector general. lisa page who was demoted, then left the fbi. peter strzok, demoted and then fired by the fbi, and jim baker. don't forget him. counsel counsel counsel.

>> general counsel at the fbi, demoted and then the left. these four people are the ones that have this extreme animus towards the president. they're the ones who are saying to start this counterintelligence investigation into the president, it's ridiculous. and remember when it happened. it happened just days after their best pal jim comey's fired. so remember that critical week. may 9th. comey gets fired. may 17th, bob mueller gets named special counsel. andy mccabe's running the fbi. they're talking about everything. they're talking about this information, new york times report, which is not really new news -- judge: i kept reading it, what's new here? >> the one name that's not mentioned, rod rosenstein, who's talking about wearing a wire to record the president, who was talking about invoking the 25th amendment. this is the crazy stuff going on with these people who had this extreme animus and bias against the president of the united states. judge: all right. so what you have is their best friend is fired, comey's fired. so his pals who worked with him

on the hillary clinton investigation, so-called investigation, decide that we're going to look at this guy for obstruction of justice and start a counterintelligence investigation. the guys who already hate the president. >> yep. judge: all right? and at the same time, rosenstein's talking about, hey, get a wire, i'll waver wear a wire when i talk to the president. i mean, if this isn't a conspiracy in itself -- >> it's scary. judge: -- to undermine the president, then it's very scary. >> and remember, even with all this, judge, jim comey testified up until the day he's fired, he said there was no evidence to show any type of coordination between the current campaign and -- lisa page said the same thing when we deposed her. remember that one text message from peter strzok, there's no there there? judge: right. there's no big there there. >> right. that's the day after mueller's named special counsel. so even with all this crazy stuff going on in this eight-daytime period, even then peter strzok said there isn't

any there there, but because he had this bias, he said trump should lose 100 million to 0, they're all talking about these ridiculous things. judge: you know what i don't understand, and i'm sure you have better insight than i do, why is rod rosenstein allowed to just leave? >> yeah. judge: why is this guy given the velvet glove treatment? talk to me, you're looking down. look at me. >> mark meadows and i sent a letter to chairman cummings this week where we said -- excuse me, to the justice department, we we said just because rod rosenstein has said he's leaving, he still needs to come testify. there's important questions he needs to answer. we want him under oath, in front of us, asking questions, and more importantly, the american people -- judge: will the fisa warrants -- >> i think all that, bruce ohr too, the fisa, but we need to get him under oath. judge: oh, yeah, i want to be there that day.

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judge: more reaction to my interview are president trump. -- interyou with president trump.

good evening, dan bongino, did you hear the president? he actually mentioned you and thought you were a great guy, all that jazz. did you hear that? >> yeah, sorry, i was scratching my brow there when i came on. i did hear that. i was surprise, always flattered. listen, he's on to something, judge. he knows you, i and gregg have done a lot of homework into this spydate, russiagate debacle that this is a total scam, it deserves to be exposed, and i'm glad he fights back and doesn't take the media narrative nonsense. judge: you know, the amazing thing is that this, the second new york times article -- second, the one from yesterday, it's like they just won't give it up. they just rerun this stuff -- [laughter] and give it a new headline. and, you know, it's almost like there's a coup. i mean, like every day there's a new coup with the same dossier, the same players. [laughter] >> right. judge: it's got to be -- it is amazing that it's been able to last this long. >> you know, your line to

congressman george jordan there was classic, it was great. what's the news here? the fbi used the dossier from the hillary team that's been widely discredited and debunked as a reason to target and weaponize the fbi to attack the trump attempt i don't understand what was new about this article, and even worse, i don't understand why this reflects poorly on trump. the piece basically admits that the fbi took a purely political document and used it to spy on the president. judge, can i mention one more thing about this though? don't you find it a little odd that in that piece rod rosenstein is not mentioned, yet it was rod rosenstein's letter that was used to fire comey. so if that piece is right, that the firing of comey incited some big counterintelligence investigation, why was the investigation focused on trump? why not investigate rosenstein? you and i know the answer -- judge: of course we do. >> this had nothing to do with rosenstein and everything to do

with donald trump. judge: and the amazing part, rosenstein announces he's going to retire, and there's no consequence. bye, rod, we'll give you a watch, we'll see you in a few i don't understand why he's getting away with it. but the answer is when the president releases the fisa warrant and declassifies it. it's gotta be done. i just, i'm dying to know what it is about this guy. but let me ask you this, i mean, when we talk about what is going on right now, you were in the secret service. i mean, you were in law enforcement before that. immigration. what is going on, and why do the democrats allow this to continue? and i'm not even talking about the politics, but the influx. we know ms-13, we know drugs, we know fentanyl, human trafficking. why? >> because this isn't about immigration to the democrats, this is about political power. this is about open borders and a welfare state to replace the

voters they're losing now en masse amongst the american working class. this is all the democrats have. judge, make no mistake, this fight, this shutdown fight right now, i'm telling you on the democrat side, it has nothing to do with immigration. this is what they perceive to be a defeat for the president of the united states where they can marshal that political power for impeachment later -- martial. everybody needs to understand what this is about. if we lose this fight on this shutdown, they will go after this president, it will be geometrically worse than it is now. this is the fight. there can be absolutely no backing down and no retreat on this. the fight is now, the sacrifices have to be made now. everybody needs to toughen up for what's ahead. judge: dan bongino, yes or no. use emergency funding? >> i don't think so. i think it's a bad call. i think he's doing the right thing right now holding back on that. judge: all right. dan bongino, thanks so much for being with us. and we'll be right back. as a fitness junkie, i customize everything -

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