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assaulted but the list does not have any sex crimes. >> sean: thank you for that report and update. that's all the time we have left this evening. let not your heart be troubled and in the news always continues where we are always fair and balanced, but not the hate trump media. she's in new york. she is not in the sewer or the swamp -- to be when i'm in's swamp i come into town and haul down the call hell breaks loose. maybe i won't finish to 2012 because things have changed, sean. that's what your good mayor. >> sean: comrade de blasio? every lunatic on the fringe? i want them all to run. it's going to be highly entertaining. >> laura: the more the merrier. a plethora of choices. great show tonight.
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>> sean: welcome to new york. >> laura: this is "ingraham angle." tonight, did the fbi target fbi project the former assistant director of the fbi who is outraged at his former agency here. and we are driving the judges be how a lawless judiciary is imperiling you with resistance,n immigration in another commentary. you will not believe this. a new battlefront opening the war on men. how the left is conflating rank abuse and violence with classic masculinity. can't miss debate ahead. first, dems get away from governing. that's the focus on tonight's angle. while the president remained in washington over the weekend, very snowy, ready and willing to do with deal with the democrats to reopen the government, nancy pelosi and her crew left town.
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but they talk a good game. >> why punish people who are applying for food stamps because the president is having a temper tantrum? open government first. i hope he does the right thing. reopen the government. more or to security? let's have edited but while we were having the debate, let's reopen the government. >> open up this government tomorrow. >> laura: as they always say, forget at what they say, look at what they do. as they adjourned the house on friday, more than 30 democratic members and their families needed to catch a chartered flight bound for the sunny shores of puerto rico. while 800,000 government workers remain on furlough, these very concerned democrats were living the high life at a beach resort in san juan. very nice. the trip came courtesy of 109 lobbyists from facebook, amazon, various unions, and microsoft. you know, the little people. it was part of the congressional
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hispanic caucus' bold packed retreat. the democrats where reportedly there to survey the damage of hurricane maria and talk with various union groups. remember that tidbit. here is senator robert menendez. he's taking a very personal interest in the local recovery efforts. let's dominic looks like instead of helping hurricane victims, he'sg himself to a hurricane on the rocks. mm. this is a liberal packed junket paid for by lobbyists so that congressmen and senators can frolic in the tropics with celebrities. yes, the big congressional getaway on the same weekend, wouldn't you know, as broadway megastar lynn manual miranda is bringing his 20 award-winning musical "hamilton" with the original cast, no less. the media has been tripping over themselves praising miranda for his tireless efforts to bring "hamilton" to puerto rico to support the arts on the island.
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a nice thing. the plan was to perform the musical for three weeks. a mass success. at the theater at the university of puerto rico. now, there is a really interesting back story that got lost in all the glossy coverage but it's the alma mater of lin manuel's father. they raised a million dollars to the theater, but that led to a different shutdown of sorts. the university of puerto rico's world by union protests, and one of those unions send a letter to miranda's father. >> the letter ended up saying that there are real problems at the university of puerto rico and we want to advise those things, protest can happen around your production. >> lynn lin manuel miranda, has even
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mined his hamilton score for protest songs. >> ♪ you blow us all away ♪ someday, someday don't stop. don't give up. [cheers and applause] >> laura: "the new york times" quotes some students in puerto rico less than thrilled that hamilton will be coming to campus. one said, quote, "the only artist and people that benefit from "hamilton" are the elite white north american settlers, the rich bourgeoisie, and those who actively participate and aspire to become oppressors. as a latin person, he should be more conscious of who hamilton was refused glorifying a person who represents oppression. he could've made a show about harriet tubman." in addition to the union group, students also are testing the production on campus but how did mr. "not taking away my sean"
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react in the face of the leftist threat that sadly, he came to the pressure and move the production to an art center off campus. miranda gave into mob rule. he also missed a huge opportunity with the world press looking on, no less, to challenge and educate the illiberal forces undermining free speech on campus. even art that pretty much supports their agenda! if these college knots are emboldened enough to go after their favorite son, who gave them a million bucks to rebuild a theater? working other performers expect! and, lin, what would hamilton have done? >> it was a ovation like no other. after so much pain. the ultimate tribute. >> laura: well, miranda never looked back. the whole controversy and entire
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episode in capitulation was lost to the swirl of celebrity and glamour. just the way the left likes it. oh, and some of those 30 plus bidding democrats were right there along in the audience sunday night. but poor babies, they had to buy make their own tickets according to reports. but don't worry. they got to attend an after party with a cast for free. courtesy of the latino victories of the liberal pac. tv elites always stick together. i bet they thought they were in the room where it happened. even if they weren't. and that's the angle. here now, juan williams. fox news particle analyst and cohost of "the five," and monica crowley. great to see you. juan, how can the democrats continue to push for the government shutdown to end when trump is there -- i was there, i live in washington, basically it's a blizzard. sitting there, it wasn't
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mar-a-lago. i imagine if he went to mar-a-lago, there would be enough and uproar. after bundling pac money, they go hang out in puerto rico with. why did that happen? >> have the phones broken? there are 30 people -- >> laura: you would've been okay with trump going to mar-a-lago? >> no. trump is the one who shut down the government. let me just say, you have senator mitch mcconnell there, if a little republican. senator lindsey graham? they have all said, let's reopen the government. >> laura: setting aside the video of him without a shirt on... >> i like your mockery. i enjoy it. i can see why the right would enjoy it especially with menendez given his past problems, but this isn't -- >> it was in the dominican republic. if you went to the dominican republic, that would've been bad. >> you are just tickling me.
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>> laura: juan, if you are menendez, with everything -- >> because he's open himself to laura ingraham. laura ingraham -- -- >> laura: ucd, the judgment to do that? you look better short-list than menendez. probably a violation of every rule -- monica, you get -- they are more serious about the government. they are living the high life in puerto rico. i'm glad they are helping the people of puerto rico, that hurricane was horrific. >> but when the president has been sitting in the snow in the oval office now for weeks wanting to talk to the democrats and broker a deal? what you see there, laura, basking in the sun and surf? that demonstrates the arrogance a party that knows they have no fear of any concrete consequences because they have the threat of support of the press. this points to the corruption of
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the media that protects the democratic party and their agenda. it also points to something bigger. they do not want to work with the trump administration or this president because they consider him fundamentally illegitimate. that's what the fbi stories are all about. that's what the russia hoax is all about. it continues to stay. while we are talking about looking forward to the 2020 election cycle, they are still fighting the 2016 cycle and they are doing everything they can, including shutting down the government and not working with this president for national security interests of the united states because they are still contained in this drawing -- >> laura: this is what trump has to say about the puerto rican extravaganza. >> i've been in the white house because i think it's very important to be there. and other people went on a nice, wonderful vacation over the weekend. they had a great time. >> laura: he also talked about how this is all about 202020. >> let me just say -- is that
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clip you just showed, mr. poor me, i'm all alone in the white house. >> laura: i'm just making a joke. >> oh, it's just a joke? remembered when he went after obama, obama goes on vacation? he is twice as much on the golf course -- the one he has created twice as many jobs. >> no, he has not. you are absolutely wrong. in fact, obama has said he created more jobs in two months than trump did in his first -- >> laura: how does he think these manufacturing jobs? they are never coming back? remember, they are never coming back and he's going to wave a magic wand? >> you guys are running so fast, i'm amazed you made it up here to new york. you are running so fast to get away from trump, get away from the fact that fellow republicans -- the one i'm not getting away from trump? get away from trump, the party is going down the tubes.
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>> you are going to back trump no matter what? >> laura: he's right on the issues -- >> he's wrong. >> laura: is the future of the republican party jeb bush? is a jeff flake? bob corker? losers! >> it created because it's the party of trump. >> laura: you're the party of tulsi gabbard who criticized israel. >> as trump man, he could shoot a man of fifth avenue and lara would not say anything. >> it lists all the latest economic data thanks to this president and the republican party. the bigger issue, laura, one of the big issues why he was elected is because he wasn't one of them. he came in as a successful businessman who is intent on solving the nation's problems. members of both parties forever, especially on immigration, have looked the other way because it behooves them to keep this issue
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going. trump got elected because he said, "i'm going to come in and i'm going to solve this." he's sitting in the white house saying i have the ideas to solve this. but you need to meet me -- maybe not even halfway. maybe not a quarter of the way. they won't even -- >> laura: hold on, this is trump talking about why he's not going to relent on this issue of the wall, making one pull out the crying towel. let's watch. >> i will never, ever back down. i didn't need this fight. this is a real fight. we are dealing with people who think if they can stop me from building the wall -- again, we've already done a lot of work. but they think that's a good thing for 2020 because they are not going to win. >> laura: 2020. juan, do you think there are any politics in this? the president said he would do daca for to the wall -- >> hold on. >> laura: let me finish. he already changed the material of what the wall will be built of. it is not concrete, it's deal. already open the door to do some
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sort of daca deal. >> this was a deal that was on the table a year ago. steel and fair point. >> the president said no, we want to cut legal immigration in half and the deal fell apart. you have mitch mcconnell before the holidays saying, here's a deal. we'll open the government and we'll negotiate. trump said no. you have lindsey graham saying we need three weeks. these are republicans i'm talking about. >> laura: none of them could be elected president of the united states. >> wait a second or that's what we are talking about? 's meal and i'm just saying he's the president. he could make the descriptions. >> doing the right thing for the american people, people not getting paid, that's the right thing? >> laura: did you see "hamilton," by the way? wasn't a great? i loved "hamilton." i saw it here in new york. it was in 2016, i saw it in march and april. it was phenomenal. when he goes down to puerto rico
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and performs it, it's such a fun topic. goes down to put her vehicle and performs it, i think it's great. but you have to admit, juan, even when lin-manuel is shut down by leftist protesters -- he had to move his production! that is illiberal! why making someone like him, let alone anyone else, move your theater production because you are threatened? that's scary. >> the unions -- in your monologue, you said the unions are the issue but don't forget that tidbit. i thought that was right. indication to the audience, not only is puerto rico under siege in terms of the recovery from hurricane maria, they haven't gotten government aid, they have issues about statehood, they have issues with people in the unions feeling that they do not have enough -- the one they were worried about violence. the organizers said there was a .1% chance it would work. >> another demonstration of this dangerous moment in this country where the entire bill of rights is under assault starting with the first amendment. >> laura: i like the fact that
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trump and melania are tweeting photos getting shut down down d 1 inches of snow. "what, is a very beautiful out here." menendez, "i will have another hurricane." great segment. i love it when juan is on. >> the heat is up. >> laura: i criticize trump being way too liberal on certain things. thanks, juan. the liberal media in full-blown meltdown after "the new york times" published this piece, "at the eye open inquiry whether it be if i was working on the half >> this bombshell. >> showstopper of a headline on "the new york times." >> it is explosive tonight, that breaking news. >> laura: don lemon almost changed his expression. serious bombshell per the report is and what those other folks w,
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it's that the fbi may have been motivated to investigate the president and reelection for the firing of former fbi director jim comey. joining me now is chris schleicher, he worked for 24 years as a special agent. sir, your reaction is extraordinary. investigating a investigating a president with little or no predicate. investigating him for executing his article two authority to fire a member of the executive branch solely within his plenary power to do so. >> i guess the biggest per surprise, laura, anyone would consider "the new york times" to be a credible source. they are notorious for not venting their sources and they get the uneasy feeling that maybe their sources are the same people in the fbi that have been discredited themselves, mccabe, comey, page, strok.
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it's not the constitutional debate of separations of powers, it's about this corrupt inner circle in the fbi. not the fbi itself, but the corrupt comey inner circle. nothing they could have done during their tenure that the leadership of the fbi would be credible. we know they were biased. we know that they had a kid glove investigation of the clinton email foundation investigation. you know, they have all been disgraced. they lost their last little pocket of supporters inside and outside the fbi community. so why would we believe anything they did in that time period? >> laura: when you look at the way the fbi has operated in the past, you know, several years, going back to whether you are talking about the uranium one deal or talking about hillary's emails, comey's decision to announce that hillary is not going to be indicted. that was very odd, july 26 2610 press conference.
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what does a rank-and-file staffer, agent trying to do a good job -- i honestly think, how did they feel in all of this, let alone what this does to the public's view of justice overall? >> that's one of the big tragedies in this. there are 35,000 men and women of the fbi that strapping on and go out there every day. they do the best job they can. they are highly motivated. they do not deserve what that comey inner circle has brought down on them because he has been abusing the fbi as a shield, say if you criticize me, you criticize the fbi. i hear from fbi agents current and former, i literally -- hundreds of them. they all agree that comey was a rogue operator. his inner circle where people have been promoted beyond their capabilities accelerated promotions, they were not capable of doing the job. in the way it represents the
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fbi. >> laura: they had policy differences, clearly, with how the commander in chief was executing his -- again, article two duties. they didn't like the fact that he'd fired comey, didn't like the fact he wanted a closer relationship with russia. all of this calls into question to launch a counter intel investigation? it's ludicrous! the whole thing is completely anti-constitutional and i disagree with you. i think separations of powers is a big deal here and it's another black eye to the fbi, even if "the new york times" doesn't get it. i want to put something up on the screens for all our viewers across the country and across the globe. this is how cnn today started one of its hours. i think it's jake tapper's power. trump and russia. they have all this hillary targeted by russian hackers, goes all the way up to trump. i can't even read the last one. trump and the firing, the meeting at trump tower, men .
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we made our own. if this is enough to launch a counter intel investigation. we could've made it the same way. obama and russia, okay? medvedev, remember when he told me he was going to have more flexibility. remember when obama left off romney saying russia was a threat? remember when they had the failed reset. nick's missile defense and use in europe. and he had the $500,000 fee to speak in moscow, the sanctions until the end of 2016. if this is what you are going to judge is okay grounds for launching a counter intel investigation, we didn't even mention uranium one in there. i guess we could have had the fbi launch an investigation into obama for russia as well. >> yeah. the attorney general guidelines are very specific about what predication it takes to open an investigation. nothing or just mention amounts
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to that level of predication predication. you go back -- i go back to the leadership failure within that inner circle. this obviously was personal. we know that with the text between strok and page. i don't want anybody to think -- >> laura: we are not charging the rank-and-file of the fbi. we are judging the upper echelon of the fbi. we know who that is. stay there to release its own insulin, like it's supposed to. trulicity is not insulin. it works 24/7. it comes in an easy-to-use pen. and i may even lose a little weight. trulicity is an injection to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. don't use it as the first medicine to treat diabetes, or if you have type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. don't take trulicity if you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer, you're allergic to trulicity,
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>> time to see what the groups were fighting about, one thing is clear. everybody arrested are confirmed members of ms-13. the incident is a reminder of this gang's violent ways. >> laura: more proof that our nation's immigration laws need to be enforced and loopholes closed. police say three members of the ms-13 gang, two of whom were detained and released in the last 18 months, stabbed and beat a fellow classmate outside of long island, new york, restaurant. prosecutors say all three members are here illegally. they came in 2016 as unaccompanied alien children. preferred status and earned them a quick release to a family already in america. one of those suspects, ramon lopez, was actually arrested ten months after arriving here on
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suspicion of gang activity. but a few months later, this judge, 95-year-old robert sweep, who's been sitting on the bench since the carter administration, ordered that lopez be released, claiming he had been held too long for a minor. lopez is now 19. another suspect, oscar melina, also ordered to be released by a federal judge in late 2017. all three are now charged with assault with intent to cause physical harm. i once they serve any sentences. this all brings us to our next story, and a segment we are dubbing "judging the judges." we highlight a troubling strain of judicial rendition which looks a lot like political activism.
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according to "the washington post," she criticize prosecutors over an increase in immigration cases in federal court last week. she said, "i think this is not the best use of judicial or justice department resources." she specifically singled out the u.s. attorney for the eastern district of virginia, my next guest, zachary zach terwilliger. i was on the train coming up to new york and i'm reading "the washington post." "democracy dies in the darkness," that's their tagline now. i'm reading these comments saying, i hope these cases don't continue in my courtroom. isn't that the role of the executive branch, how it's deciding to pursue various federal prosecutions? is at the role of the judge to
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interject himself or how are to make herself and how are you singled out? >> thanks for having me, speed 29 laura. we just have a fundamental disagreement surrounding priority of these cases. one of these cases and as attorney which i often do is meet with the victims and survivors of crime and i feel very strongly that these cases represent a public safety risk. the article you referenced in "the washington post," many times these individuals we are talking about have been illegally coming into the country, then deported, and then what brings them back to the attention of the federal government is interaction with the criminal justice system through local arrests. i think the article also mentioned, many of these people have committed multiple offenses, whether it be duis, assaults, or in particular cases, even batteries against minors.
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>> laura: the case cited in "the washington post," that individual actually had been in federal custody for battery against a minor, correct? >> well, laura, that case is currently pending trial. rather than talking specifically about it. what i can tell you is these individuals. again, as i mentioned before, these are individuals where the only reason they come to federal attention is that they enlarge number have been arrested for local violations. to me, that is a good use of our resources. these are individuals illegally in the country. unlike others, they have come to our attention because they have committed other crimes and committed a public safety violation. >> laura: a lot of them are coming back in the country after leaving the country after maybe having done some time for something, somewhat minor. they are able to easily cross back in the country. again, i know you have to be careful what you say about andy don't make any members of the bench, and that is fine. but for a judge to start questioning the priorities of
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the article two branch of government, the executive branch, which makes these type of prosecutorial decisions, it's just completely -- again, we are back on the separation of powers. a judge is acting like -- if they want to change the law, they should work for congress. if they want to carry out the laws and form prosecutorial prerogatives, they should become president or a member of the president's cabinet. i do not understand why the judge is taking this out on you, though, and focusing on all of these reentry cases. like, if you reenter the country, you should be able to stay here indefinitely. if you commit a crime that is, like, and multiple dui or a minor assault, that's basically what she's saying. >> i'm not sure exactly what she meant or what the impetus for making the comment was bit i think in this particular case, we had 6-7 arraignments for " "illegal close will -- >> laura: she doesn't want it in her courtroom.
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she doesn't want her courtroom logged down the clock with legal cases. >> for me it's a priority. we've always frankly until 2014, we were basically prosecuting this number of individuals. i think part of it is the timing. there has been a large increase in these prosecutions in 2018 versus 2017. but frankly, this is what we were doing for many years until 2014 when the administration changed its immigration informants enforcement priority. >> laura: and i think we have a photo with you and attorney general -- soon to be attorney general bill barr. former attorney general, soon to be attorney general pure that's your dad who i know to the left, of bill barr. who's that little bug are -- that's you! where was that? is in that clever. >> i feel extremely honored to
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know him for 24 years. that was november 1992 at the fbi academy. that was the attorney general and visiting the fbi academy. they brought their children along. a day i never will forget. i am so thrilled to hopefully have the opportunity to work for attorney general barr in this capacity. >> laura: that's wild. i've known bill a long time, consummate professional. you being a little boy in this case and your dad being his deputy? quite a tradition. i had to put that up there. i have a boy about that age. great photo. thanks for coming on and thanks for doing the work to keep this country safe. we really appreciate that. >> thank you so much for having me. >> laura: when we criticize new guidelines for the american psychology association on muscular knee this week, we became the bad guys. up next, part two of our debate, the over call to further emasculate men in america and what that would mean for our
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>> laura: last week, we brought you a debate over new guidelines issued by the american psychological association taking aim at classic masculinity. it only took aim at the finding, we were attacked for missing the point. in a long screed titled "how traditional masculinity hurt the men who believe in it most," "the washington post" quotes ronald lavon, the apa president when the guidelines were initially conceived. he says, "everybody has believes how men should behave. we found incredible believes that to the extent which men strongly endorse those beliefs is strongly associated with negative outcomes" here the writer of the peace, monica has, summarize the findings as
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follows. "more men who cling to rigid use of metal unity, the likely they are to be depressed, disdainful, or lonely. here now is the host of the podcast "relatable" on itunes and dr. ed williams. great to have you both with us. let's start with you. in your interaction, do you find that traditionally traditionally men are more prone to depression and loneliness. this is an anecdotal point raised, is that what you have found? >> this has not been my subjective experience but i do not think that's objectively true, which is why the apa came out to say this is a small number of few men and we are talking about extreme, stereotypical behaviors. we are not talking about everyone that we still have these findings of social and
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political views rather than on scientific fact. there have been a lot of criticisms. i think it's divided criticism of this study. i think the findings that they found ahri being used generalize and the rule all masculinity's. it's all toxic. i do not see how that's productive for society, typically for our young men. >> laura: doctor, this all toxic masculinity -- by the way, you look very masculine tonight. you got the t-shirt, the two the jacket. that's very masculine for that's like something up in new hampshire when i was going to college for it what's going on here quite like what is this all about? >> this is all about the american psychological association trying to make the public aware, and other professionals aware, that there is a lot of room for men to begin to have a conversation about masculinity. and it is a fallacy to say that
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traditional masculinity is under attack. the way i like to put it is that traditional masculinity is under construction and improvements. >> laura: what does it mean? when you say "traditional muscular entity," what does that mean? >> well, that means the things that we are taught as men send the signal that we are's not supposed to express our feelings, we are not supposed -- we are supposed to t alone. we are supposed to be independent. >> laura: any woman in a car with a man who cannot find his way where he's going and doesn't have, like, an iphone, we know men cannot do it by themselves. "turned on the radio!" come on. men know they cannot do it alone. i get what you are saying. we don't want men to mistreat women. we do not want men to mistreat other men. isn't that just manners? how it is good manners somehow a commentary on traditional masculinity?
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that's -- that's what i'm not getting here. >> it includes manners. but it's far more than that. it is actually the learnings that we are -- that we incorporate from our early years about what it takes to be a good man. it's the cultural, filmic underpinnings that make suggestions to boys that grow into men that say these are the attributes that make a man a good man. >> laura: courage, stoicism, honor. again on this. i mean -- look, i know you've talked about this before and i've done this on my radio show. look, men cried. they cry at their daughter's weddings, they cry when they lose a parent. they cry when you are a member of military, they lose their sisters in arms. it's okay. it's okay for men to cry. >> laura, i would invite you to spend a day in my office working
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with men who are really good men but feel very constricted sometimes about expressing themselves to their wives, to their girlfriends, to their -- >> laura: but i do not think it's about being masculine. >> this is what we need to address. how much of that is truly cultural and needs to be changed and under construction and how much is it biological putts instead of being suppressed, changed, reconstructed, it just needs to be honed, trained in a different way. all the characteristics that we are talking about being inherently negative, being more independent, being tougher. yes, they can lead to negative things. but that's also what makes men men and make them stronger and what i am afraid of is that we are going to start raising soft boys. raising soft boys does not create good, strong men. >> i do not think you have any worry about that. men are not going to turn into women. trust me about that.
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what we are trying to do is not change men, but expand men. >> laura: there are men expanding on the runway. i have to share this. i ran across this today. we are going to put it up on the screen. here's a quote from a fashion piece on a very, very well-known fashion designer. and describing new offerings on the runway back in july, a similar thing being written today. "glittery, soothing, tunics reminiscent of unisex children clothing down the runway. it felt particularly fitting for the collections commentary on shedding toxic masculinity, embracing one's unedited self. before little boys grow up and socialize into hardened men, they are genderless characteristics express a blissful version of their truest self. do we have a picture of the roughly number? there it is.
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i don't know. that looks like jiffy pop. i do not know what that is. that's a strange -- doctor, i don't see men wearing that anytime soon. i don't make light of it. men as we know suffer right to make rates of suicide, depression, anxiety. i think there are a lot of reasons. blue-collar jobs loss. i do not know how many men can behave today for they are confused by jiffy pop man and under things that i think a lot of men do not know where to tur turn. >> let's look at the two factors that men talk about as being manly. one is protecting, other is providing. both is essential, both are important. they are very narrowly defined is sometimes very protecting is also giving your children or your wife an opportunity to express herself, protecting the
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safety. >> laura: most women think protection is strength. >> you are not wrong. >> laura: you do not want the man to push you in front of himself. we want the man to save us. >> it's not a dichotomy. it's not either this or that. it's a multifaceted problem. >> laura: most women think -- it's much more visceral. we are discounting biology. >> exactly. >> laura: you can out arm wrestle me right now. but i think that's a biological factor is nothing with it. to be discounted to say that's bad because you are stronger than women? >> the guidelines do not suggest that there is something wrong. >> laura: you are right. i know it's? >> i think we are discounting a lot of words. the inherent natural economies between men and women and in negative qualities we are talking about in man, we are talking about the solid nature of men. women have toxicity too. it's about raising good men and women to be responsible adults. maybe my colleague and i agree
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on that. there are no differences to be had here. >> laura: thank you both very fascinating conversation for not going away. going to have your back. with the democrats looking to subpoena everything and everyone in trump world, the pain of how much power the president has to shut them down before they start next. do your asthma symptoms ever hold you back? about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12 and up with asthma driven by eosinophils. fasenra is not a rescue medicine or for other eosinophilic conditions. fasenra is proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks, improve breathing, and can lower oral steroid use. fasenra may cause allergic reactions. get help right away if you have swelling of your
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>> on this specific question on how our president conducts meetings of former haired doll make them a foreign heads of states -- >> i think there is the option to subpoena the notes and the interpreter. we are talking here about a possible threat to our national security. the american people have a right to know. >> getting to the truth, frankly, is more important than precedent or executive privilege. >> laura: does the president have lived in mid privilege grounds to keep private conversations with foreign leaders just that? private? joining me is john here joining me is john you and david katz. former u.s. assistant attorney. how much damage does it do if it
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don't make an american president cannot keep conversations like this privilege? >> allowing people like congress -- or the courts to overcome executive privilege would really strike a dagger in the heart of the american presidency. this is a power which presidents from george washington on have claimed and used. the supreme court said in 1973-1974, that the very height of executive privilege would be when president need to protect diplomatic, national security, military law enforcement information. this isn't just some minor use of executive privilege so the president can tell jokes or kick things around with his advisors. this is what the courts and presidents of said dell might have said is the height of data power and executive privilege, protecting the president's ability to communicate and discuss what foreign nations and resident advisors are most important policy secrets. there is no justification where
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congress or another branch can throw up which would allow, according to the supreme court, allow for the overcoming of this privilege in this kind of case. >> laura: david, i was watching an old youtuber, jay carney, the press secretary for president obama, being pummeled by the press for his having exercised executive privilege in the benghazi case. remember, ever called her not wanting to turn over certain documents. this is how he explained it. let's watch. >> the documents over which privilege is being asserted our internal executive branch documents that have to do with response to a congressional inquiry, response to media inquiry, those type of deliberations have been protected under privilege as a matter of the separation of powers enshrined in the constitution by administrations of both parties dating back 30
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years. >> laura: when they were fine with executive privilege as long as they were claiming it. right, dave? >> well, i'm an admirer of adam schiff. he's the head of the house intelligence committee. i think he's being nudged to either subpoena the notes or testimony from this translator. i don't think that's a wise place to start. i think that john has a point. of course, there is executive privilege. and it is strongest according to the united states versus nixon case unanimous. it is strong. it's not absolute. but it's strongest in the area of just what happened with this translator. so i think the committee would be smarter to start with a whole bunch of other areas. like the cohen inquiry. and the one in why not start with tiller sin and ask him what happened during that meeting and go from there?
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i do not think it's wise in the end to keep trying to subpoena if that's what they are trying to do. >> laura: when it's going to end up in the court. >> it's picking a fight with the state department -- it doesn't seem to me like a wise thing. >> laura: i got it, i got it. i got it. i got it. but, john, they are going to try to call members of the trump inner circle to capitol hill, correct, for the house really briefly, will the president's team be able to assert privilege to prevent them from testifying on capitol hill? we are talking about someone in the old white house counsel's office, current white house counsel, may be reince priebus, don mcgann, those types? will executive privilege cover that? >> i think it would cover it. i think if congress misuses its legislative oversight authority, getting them to testify, it will lose by the supreme court and the federal courts are not going to help congress try to pry secs
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out of the president. >> laura: guys, thanks so much. big conversation. we are going to be hitting all of these issues in the weeks and months to come. big fights ahead. up next, president trump and fast food again? yes. the last bite. d windshield. that's why we show you exactly when we'll be there. saving you time, so you can keep saving the world. >> kids: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪ coaching means making tough choices. jim! you're in! but when you have high blood pressure and need cold medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. coricidin hbp is the #1 brand that gives powerful cold symptom relief without raising your blood pressure. coricidin hbp.
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clemson tigers tonight. watch. >> a thousand burger king all-america companies. burger king, wendy's and mcdonald's. we have big macs, quarter pounder with cheese, everything that i like that you like. and i know no matter what we did there's nothing you could have that's better than that, right? speak to some of us are still smarting over that alabama lost but good for clemson. he played a great game and i got some decent food. no chick-fil-a. where's the chick-fil-a? that's all the time we have tonight. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team, take it from here, we will be back here tomorrow night. >> shannon: apparently what he served was racist. we are going to talk about that with our panel. >> laura: oh good. >> shannon: we will debated and we will let folks decide. in the meantime, have a great night. we begin with fox news alert. if we have new video tonight of the new caravan. started walking north from honduras ahead of schedule. i move adding more fuel to the fire in a stalemate over the portable
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