in there. >> sean: hang in there. that goes for the republicans, especially you guys, the ones with the weak spine, the ones that go wobbly. you know, maybe it's time to show little political courage. it's about life and death for people. stop than 90% of harriman coming into the country, this show, we are not the hate trump media. let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham is standing by. new york or d.c.? >> laura: how is it i can do the show out of new york for two days and you can't walk five flights of stairs? i don't even know what floor you're on. everyone thinks we are all hanging out together. i never see tucker. i never see you. >> sean: i spent an hour and 20 minutes in this building and i am boom, out the door. >> laura: hannity comes in with jeans and vape pens. >> sean: i do. it's called the juul. the daily mail ran frame by frame, they got me on tape.

>> laura: [laughs] you have to take up smoking again. >> sean: my son is like dad, that's cool. my daughter is like dad, that is so humiliating and embarrassing. >> laura: i will stick with your daughters analysis. good to see you. i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle." in washington tonight. progressives gone wild. right off the bat, that's the focus of tonight's angle. the 2020 election cycle has already begun. and the superstars of the democratic party are now more left-wing than ever before and they are already trying to outdo one another on the compassion scale. >> the first thing i would do is restore what's been lost. the integrity and the compassion of this country. >> new york loves you if you are l or g or b or t or q.

if you are black or white or brown. if you are a christian, a muslim, or if you are jewish. if you are a new applicant or an old immigrant. new york loves you and what makes us great is we have no tolerance for hate in our state. >> laura: catchy. he left off asians and atheists. okay. of course what cuomo says no tolerance for hate, he really means no tolerance for conservatives in the positions that they hold. because in cuomo's compassionate new york, there's no tolerance for the inalienable rights of the unborn. you know, the life in the womb that his own church says is sacred. >> i believe we should pass a constitutional amendment, not just a roe v. wade law, a constitutional amendment. let's write the rights of rove

he weighed into the state constitution so it can never be changed. >> laura: i think what's going on here is that cuomo, like so many on the left, is really worried. he's worried the supreme court might reverse roe, might send it all back to the state. he also has to know that public opinion is shifting a bit toward the more pro-life position. by the way, if america's declining fertility rate continues, andy, i have a question. who's going to pay all those taxes to support his pet projects? of course with zero regard for facts, cuomo brexit he has this economic prosperity thing down down. >> the most progressive government of the united states of america. we have balanced budgets. we have the most socially progressive accomplishments of any state in the nation and it's not even close. first big state to pass marriage

equality. first state to pass $15, highest minimum wage. >> laura: yea, the democrat zombies, they actually panned the audience, they are standing, plotting, standing ovation. but they are unconcerned with the real-world effects of some of those policies, namely this rise in the minimum wage. john bluestein who owned six restaurants in new york city told cbs we lost control of our largest controllable expense, so in order to live with that and stay in the business here, we are cutting hours. well, this is the third wage hike in new york since 2016. so who does that really help? certainly not the restaurants, not the workers getting hours cut, and out the patrons. the new york city hospitality aligned survey of 574 restaurants found that 75% of full-service restaurants plan to cut employee hours this year due to the minimum wage hike.

that's not all. 47% say they will cut jobs in 2019, and 87% say they are going to raise menu prices. we went out to dinner last night new york. he was pretty expensive already. this is the opposite, my friends, of compassion. this brings us to the freshest of congressional freshmen. fresh people, what can we say? alexandria ocasio-cortez who happily refers to herself as both a socialist and a radical. by the way, i think it's in the state for conservatives not to take her seriously, to brush her off as a flash in in a pan or an upstart. she is as close to a thought leader that the democratic party has today. and she has a massive social media following. she is both charismatic and she's committed to transforming both our economic system and our culture. first, she aims to create a socialist economic system with sky high marginal rates. >> you know, you look at our tax

rates back in the '60s and what you have a progressive tax rate system, your tax rate, you know, let's say from 0 to $75,000, may be 10% or 15%, et cetera. once you get to the tippy top, on your $10 million, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60 or 70%. doesn't mean all $10 million or tax at extremely high rate but it means as you climb up this latter, you should be contributing more. >> laura: well, it doesn't stop there. >> if we get people to pay their fair share, that's 2,000,000,000,010 years. now if we implement a carbon tax on top of that, so that we can transition and financially incentivize people away from fossil fuels, if we implement carbon tax that's an additional amount of a large amount of revenue that we can have.

>> laura: trevor noah's eyes are glazing over. how does any of this add up? it doesn't. on the cultural side, she and others like or intend to use the government and their positions of influence now to mandate campus-style political correctness. what do i mean by that? well, anyone who dares question this progressive agenda is not just wrong but they are downright evil. so there's no room for debate, only demonization. and a recent tweet she asserts many have recognized that fox news has crossed a line beyond conservatism into outright bigotry with their finance of tucker carlson laura ingraham. you see, my friends, this isn't your daddy's liberalism where it was all about love and peace and live and let live. this is kind of the old-school new england puritanism with a radical twist. they are going to with buffed their followers to try to intimidate and silence anyone

who gets in their way. now, she's only been on the job for like six days but she's already practicing the rules for radicals. rule 13, pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. go after people and not institutions. people hurt faster than institutions. rather than debating the merit of policies, these new left-wing progressive puritans aim to shame. a wall is racist, so people who want a wall are racist. end of story. >> a wall is in immorality. it's not who we are as a nation. it's a wall between reality and his constituents, his supporters. >> laura: now, all of you who are doing better in the trump economy, you should know this. they plan to take your money

away and redistributed to, you know, whatever their pet causes are. and to all of our libertarian friends who believe that trump is the big threat to the free market because of tariffs and so forth, open your eyes. these people, including nancy pelosi, they are going to take it all away. freedom of speech, freedom of contract, freedom of religion or conscience. you think i'm exaggerating. i'm not. because when you say the wrong thing in or because io cortes' world, they put you in detention hall and you never get out. remember, they believe they are right and you are evil. moderates even seem petrified of taking on these new progressives. this is former sec chair richard bredon today on cnbc. >> alexandria ocasio-cortez joining the house financial services committee led by maxine waters. what is that going to look like for the industry? >> well, maybe she will learn

something. [laughs] >> are you questioning some of the... some of her economic ideas that she's put out there? >> i have never seen any historic evidence that 70% tax rate facilitates gdp growth. perhaps, you know, we will discover something. >> laura: [laughs] oh, my god. i am washing this this morning going, is that all you have, richard? real powerful reputation, real strong defense strong defense of free market in capitalism. republicans are to take the progressive take over the democratic party very seriously and offer a strong counter narrative. if you want to know what it looks like to be a conservative and perpetually in the fetal position worried about being branded racist or evil, well, look no further than theresa may. didn't work out so well for her to be on her heels. now trump is the opposite. he fights. he fights for law and order. he fights for sovereignty. he fights for judges to apply the laws of don't rewrite it. and he fights for a stronger

economy. so after two years of president trump, we have higher wages, 500,000 new manufacturing jobs, the strongest gdp growth among all the g-7 nations. but the progressives, they don't care because if enacting their green contract with america requires your standard of living to go down, tough cookies. these people are fanatics, and they are running for president. >> are you considering running for president? >> i'm focused on my job but listen, right now our party is going through a series debate and there is still a lot of moderate voices in the party they did not learn the lessons of 2016. they are not listening to what people need in this country, so i want to push this whole party -- we could go a lot farther. we could be bolder than what we're doing now. >> are you ruling it out? >> i never rule things out. >> laura: watch your wallet. what are the progressives actually learning themselves? moderates aren't learning. what are the progressives learning?

not much. americans are fleeing the most progressive states in america due to high costs and high taxe taxes. no wonder they are welcome the illegal immigrants in new york and california. they need the citizens come again. all that other citizens are leaving. are americans really ready to be ruled by the values and policies of progressives and new york and california. let's hope not. and that's the angle. joining me now, matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union. for him for some, former editor in chief of breitbart news london and craddick strategist. i love the graphics. gores gone wild. remember that? wild child. progressives gone wild. a little funny. you've got to laugh. it's kind of easy and i've fallen into that. ocasio-cortez, she is so funny. but i guess i said at the beginning, really impressive that she goes -- he is working in a coffee shop.

very modest means that she takes on this very liberal crowley, congressman carla, third and the leadership of the democratic party and she just organizes the heck out of it and rolls right over him. i kind of like the fact that you lost a trump. i'm going to help take this party a new direction. i kind of admire that. her tweet about me, i think she's probably -- my authentic self? she's questioning my own truth, i think. as a single woman, i felt so offended by what she said about me. woman to woman. >> i think she should come on your show. >> laura: we called her. we try to get touch with her but i haven't heard back. would love to have you on. we have a good conversation actually. i don't think it's smart for conservatives to kind of ridicule her really or write her off as an anomaly. >> we have c packed coming up in less than 50 days and what's happening on college campuses

but also high school campuses and younger is this a radicalization of the education establishment. look at the results. look what's coming out of it. she has advanced expensive degrees and she doesn't seem to know basic fundamentals about constitutional government, american law, and economics. i'm not mocking her. i actually fear because it's working. people are listening to this. they are listening to the siren song. we need to wake up and educate our kids to push back on this radicalism because america won't be the same if we don't win these battles. >> laura: monique, is it enough, the california, new york coalition. a lot of people in both states. is it enough to drive the party back into the heartland? ohio, wisconsin. michigan. >> we have to win everywhere and i'm not in favor of us just winning on coasts. i'm not from a coast. i'm from texas, deep in the heart of texas. >> laura: i already like you.

>> i believe you have to have a message that speaks to everyone. but i don't think the message that matt just gave us about the poor girl who really doesn't understand things like economics will work when we have a president who served hamburgers but can't spell it. ham and burger and will it be easier? >> laura: that is as snide comments. okay. >> if he only misspelled one thing, it would be petty. >> laura: do you really want to go there? spelling and grammar, do you really want to? i can go there. i can go three aoc's tweets, nancy pelosi. >> that's not your best argumen. >> a 70-plus old billionaire and she's the youngest person to ever be a member of congress. when we look at mistakes, like i said, we need to look at mistakes from the person who has the highest office in the land who regularly makes --

>> laura: you are making a point that i think reinforces what i was saying earlier in an odd way. i said you should take her seriously and i'm saying -- i don't think she's returning the favor to someone who's kind of worked her way up through the media. no one really gave me anything. i worked my tail off what i have. little snide, little comment about being a bigot. she's better. hold on, hold on. >> she kind of threw you under the bus with tucker. >> conservative women never sort of get their due. it's only liberal women who get -- that's fine. >> like maxine waters? >> laura: your point about trump doesn't know how to spell or his tweets. fine. if trump is that dumb, as he liberal say, boy, how did you guys -- how did you not beat him? hillary and so an end obama, af hollywood. >> i think we would have beat

him. >> i am from the united kingdom where we have had now -- and my parents are from tanzania. we've had in charge of the leader labor party now a hard-line socialist, jeremy corbyn. you need to take alexandria ocasio-cortez, the democrats need to take her more seriously and treat her as more of a danger than conservatives do. when jeremy corbett has done in the democratic party, in the labour party rather, he cannot get his party to take power even if you won an election, he wouldn't hold the competence of parliament. if you allow someone who's clearly radical and well-versed to take over the cultural and she's very good of the cultural, take over the cultural and the policy orientation of the party, you won't get those strains back. >> she's very good and she's very smart but i love that we are here discussing this the day after dr. martin luther king's birthday. he was considered fringe. he was considered very good at the cultural. >> laura: he came from the church. >> it doesn't matter where he

comes from. >> and american nationalists. >> he had less popularity at death then president trump. >> also a republican. >> laura: can i -- >> let's take her seriously. it's not because it's a threat. >> laura: who else on tv is saying to take her seriously? i am. i haven't heard anyone on the other shows. to take it very seriously. >> i credited as a threat. >> i don't agree. >> she's an amazing political leader. i disagree with what she's saying on policy. i owe it to her to take on -- [all speaking] >> laura: i don't have to agree with her ideas. >> it depends on whether you are talking about what socialism is defined as or if you're talking about what -- >> laura: she is defining it for us. all right, think about -- hold on, hold on, hold on.

hold on. there is a host here. here i am. this is what alexandria ocasio-cortez sent to "the washington post," and i want to say this because we actually reached out to the post tonight and we ask them for a full transcript of what they said. in this interview, edited for length and i get that. i wanted to see the full content of what she said. they edited for space and i don't know what they didn't give us the full transcript. we got the printed transcript and she said there's nothing about the republicans ideology that is about wealth building or prosperity for the working class." okay, now, that's really interesting in "the washington post" because "the washington post" just published a piece in september talking about how blue-collar wages, the wage increases under term, the jobs boom has finally reached blue-collar workers. will it last? thank god we are finally seeing wages go up. wall street doesn't like that. they want to keep wages down.

trump's policies are constricting the labor market. it's good for regular people. african-americans, latinos, asians. all going up with wages. >> african-americans, latinos. every body has lower skilled wages. more people who are poor who are considered -- >> laura: are you not saying saying -- are you not saying, are you disagreeing with the journal and bloomberg and "washington post"? >> wages increasing is not the same as wealth building. if i go from -- if i go from $10 to $11, if i go from renting to owning, that's wealth building. >> let me have a shot here. >> laura: the first moment you started working. >> let me have a shot here. >> you have to check with people of color and you have to know the numbers to know that people -- >> laura: all right, all right, all right, all right, hold on.

the phrase run train. >> what does it mean? >> laura: she says "i am six days into the term and you already used your ammo, so enjoy being exhausted for the next two years." i kind of like that. she's daring them. i kind of like that. she says while we run train on the progressive agenda. law enforcement analyst says someone who speaks live on air without a net, understand the speaking happens of the best of us but know that no other context for this vile phrase as someone who investigated violent street crime for years, this is the vernacular of felons i've interrogated, not a sitting congressman. >> it is of particular violent phrase and it implies a lack of consent as well. >> like grabbing them by something? >> they let you. fyi. >> laura: people are leaving california, new york and venezuela. they are leaving all places.

let's figure out the middle. >> we are out of time. great panel, great debate. i give a compliment to alexandria ocasio-cortez. it's not just charisma. she has got spirit up next, nancy pelosi wants to shutdown the state of the union. is she concerned about how she will look after the botched rebuttal to the president last week? stay there. >> kids: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪ got it. ran out of ink and i have a big meeting today. and 2 boxes of twizzlers... yeah, uh...for the team. the team? gooo team... order online pickup in an hour. and, now get 20% off with coupon. at office depot officemax.

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>> do you hope that he sees it as a consequence, the government shut down? >> this is a housekeeping matter when it comes to the united states responsibility and the invitation we extend to the president. >> laura: it's time for another edition of petulance and pathetic politics. with nancy pelosi. speaker amy trying to pull a fast one and telling trump to delay a state of the union address, how convenient, she is citing security concerns because of the shut down. but the authorities are calling her bluff. joining me now with the latest is chief national correspondent ed henry. ed, tell us what is the scoop. >> the speaker is trying to spin this as a security matter when the facts do not seem to support it and appears to be more a case of cold hard. some of the president's advisors saying maybe should break

tradition, deliver the state of the union on his own terms. the constitution says the speech can be sent in writing to congress. the president could turn around and deliver the written remarks from the oval office or maybe even the southern border with the border patrol and i.c.e. he just visited there. instead of capitol hill on january 29. those scenarios being dangled as the pelosi gambit seems to be back. kevin mccarthy declaring it's unbecoming of the speaker. pelosi seeming to take some heat from the homeland security secretary kirstjen nielsen. she pushed back hard on the speakers claimed that security concerns caused by the four week shutdown could make the state of the union unsafe tweeting "the department of homeland security in the u.s. secret service fully prepared to support and secure the state of the union." the president could also benefit from other cracks in the democratic side. senator joe manchin today seem to rebuke pelosi as he and other moderates of both parties work on a plan to get the democrats what they want by trying to reopen the government for three weeks to give time to negotiate

compromise and what the president wants: more money for border security. watch. >> i'm not sure what her intentions are. i have the utmost respect for speaker pelosi but i think this is wrong approach to be taking. >> pelosi's original invite to the president to deliver the state of the union was on january 3 when the shutdown had already started. she'd come back from a hawaiian vacation while the present was at the white house. fox has obtained this exquisite video of several congressional democrats enjoying a cocktail party with lobbyist down in puerto rico during shutdown. you can see at least a few lawmakers. they are on the patio at the hotel in san juan. rooms were told cost more than phone or bucks a night. that comes after the weekend photo of a shirtless senator bob menendez on the beach down there on the trip put together by lobbyist by various companies. senator menendez told fox it was neither fair nor balanced in his words to show that photo. a folder you cannot unsee.

>> laura: first fall, i love the overhead shot. that's like a balcony shot. the shadow graphic on that. that's it, that looked kind of fun. i thought they were against the big money in politics and they always trashed republicans for hanging out with lobbyist and was not just yesterday? >> obviously with the shutdown, we keep hearing the people are not getting paychecks. long lines for tsa. we need to be focused on all that and instead use the other stuff going on. >> laura: i think amazon could probably cover the government payroll without even feeling it. >> they were one of the companies involved in this party. >> laura: they could cover it for a while so they could -- at least give us alone. ed, fantastical part. thanks so much for joining me right now house minority leader steve scalise and congressman scalise, i know you want to comment on the aoc lurch to the left of the democrat party but schumer and pelosi love to say trump throws temper tantrums so they say he is petulance. he walked out of the meeting.

what does this look like? >> laura, the left has become unhinged. i've been in all those meetings in the situation room with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, top leaders in the house and senate. everything the meeting, the president was not only cold but he was putting options on the table to reopen the government e border. not one single time did they ever put an alternative on the table. not once. so this has been going on for almost 30 days now. the president was there during christmas waiting. he's there now. he's been talking to the american people and frankly you're seen the polling getting better and better as people find out -- >> laura: they want to ride it out. she thinks he can ride this all the way to getting trump to cave. this is going to be trump's no new taxes moan. i said you were house minor leader. >> republican whip. >> laura: whipping those votes votes. she thinks is the good for her politically. all the crocodile tears about the workers and they are hanging out in puerto rico but the workers -- every difficult story of a worker not being able to

pay for a bill. every single story is showing up. it's a drumbeat and the pressures on the president. they need to put the pressure on the president to cave. i don't think the president is caving. >> the president has been steadfast and consistent in saying that he is going to do everything it takes to secure america's border. he's pointed out just how bad the problems are. look, laura, this latest don't and it's not even a stunt. this is unprecedented. speaker of the house on inviting a president. >> laura: do you think she's going to turn her back? i predict there are some in this progressive new caucus will turn their back if that president walked down the aisle. >> they have tried to do everything to insult the president, it's not even acknowledge that he is the president. the bottom line is the american people want to know the facts about this. they want to watch. they've been tuning in. they watched last weekend they saw schumer and pelosi give that ridiculous looking response. i think they are saying that it is starting to come unhinged on

their side when you see more democrats, members of congress getting really nervous about this because they are seen people not get paychecks and they are saying that their party's standing up for open borders. they don't want to secure the border. that's an untenable position to hold. to say you're not going to let the president come to the capital to give a state of the union. >> laura: i thought it was the people's house. i thought she always liked to say it was the people's house. grandma mimi with all the grandkids. what is this? >> they might be holding the paychecks of government workers hostage for now to literally hold the state of the union hostage, laura, it's an untenable position. >> laura: do you think the president should just sam coming. >> pick another venue. go near the border. show exactly what's going on not only the border but if you live in pennsylvania, you know somebody whose son died of an overdose from heroin. 90% of the heroine is coming from the southern border. this problem affects everybody in this country. we have to secure the border.

i don't -- the pelosi can try to stop the truth from coming out. i talked to secretary of homeland security nielsen this evening about this very problem. she said the secret service, they've been planning -- >> laura: it's a lie. let's call it what it is. they say trump lied. that was a lie. she lied about that. >> reaching out to them to find out -- it's not a problem. they are afraid of the facts coming out. >> laura: cracks in the democrat opposition to the wall. >> they are feeling the heat. some of these new house members that aren't far left like aoc, they are starting to feel the pressure. they tried to stop some of them from going to the white house the other day. >> laura: they are criticizing clemson. they are criticizing clemson. people are criticizing the national football champions. this is steny hoyer on with bret baier today about whether the wall is immoral. let's watch. >> a wall is immoral if it tries to imprison people who shouldn't be in prison.

a wall that protects people is not immoral. >> shannon: do you think a wall, a barrier is racist? >> i don't talk in those terms. i don't think that's the way we ought to look at it. >> laura: as i said in the angle, calling someone or something racist is a way to avoid a substantive debate is, it's a week sister move. >> it defies the gravity of where they were. in 2006, chuck schumer voted not just for steel slat barriers, chuck schumer and barack obama voted for over $50 billion. the president is asking for one-tenth of that amount. >> laura: i think the president has to stay. he has to be a wall of strength. >> president trump has been rock-solid standing up for the american people to secure the border. the american people by large want to get this done. >> laura: tell nancy to drop her security detail and keep the door open and pacific heights or wherever she's living now.

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>> laura: south dakota has become the latest date to wade into the transgender debate. the state legislature is now

considering a controversial bill that would bar transgender students for playing on athletic teams based on their gender. identity. requiring a student's to be determined by their birth certificate. trace gallagher is live in our west coast newsroom with the whole story. trace. >> laura, the primary sponsor of the south dakota bill is republican state senator jim bolin who prior to becoming a state lawmaker was a high school athletic director for ten years. bolin says it's all about fair competition and its pattern after rules and taxes which require that students participate on sports teams that correspond with the listed on their birth certificate saying "this has nothing to do with bathrooms, locker rooms, or shower rooms. it only has to do with the eligibility for athletic competition." the south dakota high school activities association and the south dakota aclu plan to fight the bill with the aclu saying "participation in athletic activities has a widespread

positive impact on the social, physical, and emotional well-being of students and provides kids with lessons about self-discipline, teamwork, perseverance, success and failure." in an op-ed for out magazine, transgender olympic athlete chris bowsher said this about the south dakota bill "like other policies targeting trans youth, this bill sends a message to trans dreams that they aren't shameful and not worthy of the basic educational benefits available to their peers." last summer in connecticut, a transgender student won the girls track and field state championship. another transgender student came in second. prompting parents to circulate petitions questioning the fairness and calling for a rule change. in texas, a transgender high school wrestling was booed after beating a female competitor and advancing to the state finals. watch this. >> it's not fair for that individual that wants to transition. it's not fair for the female

wrestlers. it's an unfair advantage. >> is out of parents feel that way. south dakota's republican governor is currently studying the newly introduced bill and has not yet commented. >> laura: very interesting. thanks, trace. here now, she's the mother of a girl that was beaten by a trans athlete in connecticut that trace just mentioned and she has circulated the petition calling on athletes to compete in sports based on the gender of their birth unless the athlete has undergone hormone therapy. very confusing. joanna harper, she's been called the leading expert on trans athletes and happens to be one herself. bianca, as a mom forcing her daughter beaten, defeated by a trans athlete, tell us about that experience. i played high school sports. i remember the boys soccer team in glastonbury, connecticut, ranked number one in field hockey. my junior year.

the boys team, soccer team, played in plate is for fun. they beat us 5-0. we were really mad. they had not picked up a field hockey stick before. they were just faster. what did it feel like for you? >> what it came down to is, it came as a shock because you expect athletes to compete at a certain level. when somebody stands out out of the crowd, such a disadvantage over the others, we started questioning. we weren't aware that they were transgender females competing at that point. we were looking at the athletes just being another girl. >> laura: we are looking at terry miller. correct me if i'm wrong, who won not only one race but broke to

records, both in the 200-meter dash and the 100-meter -- . these are very competitive districts. i remember them well. in connecticut. buckley high school, grade school, glastonbury high school, another great school where i came from. you can see, very speedy. was your daughter upset at the athlete or hold anything against the athlete or just upset because she thought it was just an unfair advantage? >> it's the rule. what terry miller made us aware of is that one day you can compete as a male and the next day you can compete as a female because that's what happened in this particular case. was listed and computed as a male up until the end of the indoor season in 2018 only to start the season two weeks later and compete as a female. one question is how is this

possible? >> laura: joanna, i want to go. hold on one second. i want to get joanna's perspective here. joanna, i have to say is someone who played sports pretty seriously, i love sports. i miss team sports. so much fun. i want everyone to play. i love the fact that girls are out there competing and they are doing so well. i love it. i think it's great, great for your self-esteem and self-worth. but isn't it true that it's a biological fact that men have faster small twitch muscles. they have larger internal organs. lungs, hurts. it's physiological. it's not a political statement. isn't it an inherent advantage no matter what you're going through, just your makeup, your hip size, all those things that lead to that type of strength? >> on average, men will run races 10% to mac 12% faster than women. and so that's why we separate males from female athletes. after hormone therapy, trans

athletes lose much of their advantage. in this particular case in connecticut, these individuals were not on hormone therapy. >> laura: so you would not think that, especially in the races that were involved, that that was fair to the young woman who were competing in the gender of their birth in that category? that wouldn't be something -- >> most high school athletes are really that serious about their sports. so in terms of -- >> laura: i was. okay, i get what you are saying. it was pretty competitive. >> let me finish here, laura, please. in those cases where you are talking about state championships, you're talking about potential scholarships, in those cases, i certainly would not let a trans woman compete without undergoing hormone therapy. >> laura: bianca, was your daughter series about sports?

>> did she take it seriously? >> it's her life. it's her life. every jump, she feels she needs to set a personal record. every single jump board every single run she takes. >> laura: she got robbed. >> it's her whole life. one bad jump in its devastation. to say that athletes, the ones that are in the elite varsity teams, to say that they don't care enough, it's not true. every single saturday, one false start for one athletes and they crumble. it's like the world has ended for them in that split of a second. >> laura: i can say i still remember losing the state championship in field hockey. i remember the goal. i remember how we didn't score the next goal. i remember everything about it. we took it very seriously, glastonbury high school field hockey.

we had great athletes. it's not good for the trans athletes. i don't it's good for the omen. i don't understand how this is fair at any level. this debate is going to continue. would like to have you both back and follow this. hopefully there will be some resolution that makes sense and all of this. coming up, striking teachers in los angeles are deploying some of the most despicable tactics imaginable. we will reveal their shameful actions and debated next. to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. we know that when you're spending time with the grandkids

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>> whose schools? >> our schools! >> we will fight until we get what we need. we will not give up. >> we just don't have enough money to do everything they are asking to do. >> laura: despite those claims from the striking l.a. teachers, the actions of some of those educators call into question their true motives. they claim it's all about the kids. but that argument is tough to square with the other actions. near post-reporting that some striking teachers are posting the names of substitutes who cross the picket lines on social media. here's a video of how some

families trying to enter schools are treated themselves. these are families, kids, by the striking teachers. look at this. look at this. so it's really all about the kids who actually want to learn? here now is rebecca friedrich, she's a former l.a. public school teacher who says the unions have turned their backs on the kids. and joe was a cola, and l.a. county teacher currently on strike. thanks to both of you for being here. joe, i get it. i get the desire for more resources, more pay, smaller classrooms. i understand it, believe me. i've teachers in my family and they do yeoman's work. but don't strike like this and up hurting the lower income families, kids with disabilities and so forth? since they struggle to find, you know, care for their kids while you are on strike, is that a concern? >> the strike is for the low income kids. if you're looking at the support that we are looking for for more services in classrooms, it's for the low income kids.

you tla has a food drift we are doing as well. strikes by their nature are hardships, struggles. it's not a good thing. the goal, i spent ten years in south-central and no one is going to tell you i'm not there for the kids and i guarantee this is why we are doing it. everyone knows we are very close on money. the money is not the issue. the issue is class sizes, nurse, full-time in every school. it's not radical ask. >> laura: rebecca, there are a lot of strains on public schools across the country, especially california. strains of resources, class sizes. it's made more difficult by a lot of the immigration that's come into the state of california. multiple languages spoken. same thing not too far from here in fairfax county virginia. gaithersburg, maryland, a lot of tough deals that the teachers are dealing with. but joe says they want this to be better for the children.

is that what the unions are all about? >> well, i have to disagree completely. i have been a teacher for 28 years. teachers put children first. i can tell you that the teachers unions do not put children first. there are over 500,000 low income children in the l.a. unified who are not being serviced this week. a lot of their parents can't go to work. one of those parents called me last night. she was terrified. she said it was too frightening to take her kids to school but the principles were putting pressure on because of course the schools lose ada money when kids don't come to school. they are hurting the kids into e cafeteria or the multipurpose room. these kids are losing out. this mom is very angry at unions. but as a taxpayer and parent, she's completely silenced. i would like to ask the unions what they are going to do for that family. >> laura: joe, your response. you saw the video. i am sure, joe, you're not in

favor of screaming at the people going -- they are taunting the people, the kids and the parents that are going into be taught by substitute. if it's about the kids, where they hassling the kids and the parents going into the front door of the school? that doesn't look that gets procured to me. >> i'm not going to talk about a video i didn't see. >> laura: i just described it for you. >> that's fine. you are talking about an isolated incident. in my school, my the parents ae striking with us. an isolated incident of a parent calling in, it's horrible. of course we care about it but the notion that we are not doing it for the kids are belied by the fact that we have been asking the same thing for 20 months. we are using the only weapon we have to get lower-class eyes and the notion that it's not good for kids to have less then 40 of them in a class the future, how is what we are asking for radical? this was not something that the union did. this was something that 98% of the teachers voted for. >> laura: rebecca, okay. >> 80% of los angeles citizen

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>> laura: senator ted cruz is sharing the secret to his new look. >> this is a public service announcement. a number of people have asked me how do you grow a beard? i'm going to do what i can to help you. this is a razor. stop using it. the rest is nature. >> laura: i actually don't like beards but i actually think he looks really good and that beard. it was really funny. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team take it from here. shannon. >> shannon: it shows up at my house every fall. it's called hunting season. >> laura: o. >> shannon: but we find a razor again and i get real happy. >> laura: have a great show. >> shannon: we begin with the fox news alert. with the president facing a new crisis in syria, deadly challenged as america first policy, it appears at this late hour the commander in chief is holding firm and his plan to get our troops out of syria. ed henry