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security risk. the white house calls the charge assanine and a flat out lie. >> it's very irresponsible on the part of the president. we will go another time. this would be my ninth trip. >> do you view this as retaliation about what you said about the state of the union? >> i don't think the president would be that petty. >> it's a tale of 2 shutdown stunts for the media. pelosi gets praised for delaying the state of the union and trump trashed for axing her foreign trip. >> speaker pelosi flexing her constitutional muscle. >> the president responded in a childish way. >> this is an example of trump over-reacting. >> she has a phd in needling

president trump. >> what trump did was inept and nitwitted. >> this is political genius. >> this is a case study in media bias. >> it's a pretty good example. when he was quiet for the day, and she got all of that press for a whole day. the timing of the letter that your trip was cancelled coming a half-hour before they were to leave, that was really gold. i did my sister text. trump and pelosi tired of it! that may be how a lot of people feel. and also when pelosi i don't think he would be that petty. it's like in the south when you say bless your heart. >> yes. i think it could have been worse. i mean trump cancelling the trip is nice.

imagine if he allowed them to get on the plane and then he waited until they were in the air and then rerouted it so it flew in circles under the u.s. for 11 hours. imagine if he let them fly in the air for 11 hours. okay, let them land in d.c. and they are all tired. the ambien is wearing off. wow, i didn't know that brussels had a white house. he did them a favor. i think the idea of calling each other childish doesn't work. everybody is a child now. we live in a time when it's tit for tat. there is a positive thing that will happen. i said it yesterday. nancy pelosi handed him the golden key. get out of the state of the union. it's boring. think of it as state of the union unplugged.

go back to its roots. >> acoustics. >> you send a letter and have a rally. everybody wins and we say here in new york. we don't have to take the train. and listen to that bubble -- i don't know what i said. >> it's about travel anxiety. >> i don't want to go anywhere. >> this is juan. this is newt gingrich talking about picking a fight with the president. then you can react. >> i don't know anybody who is more predictable at counter-punching. you hit donald trump he picks up a log and slams you across the head and say see, you made me irritated. she handed him a huge softball and said knock it out of the park. he will send part of every day to cause her pain. >> the president is plotting in the oval office. how else can i cause nancy pelosi pain? >> i think he is causing himself

a great deal of pain. i looked at the polls. it's clear. all of the polls indicate that the majority blame the president for what is going on. people don't like shutdowns. don't like shutting down the government as a leverage point for the wall that mexico was going to pay for. they think we should be able to reach a deal. it would be nice if people sat down and thought about this and were able to negotiate. you have a situation where you had republicans and democrats make a deal. mcconnell said here's the deal. it was the president who shutdown the government. you have vice-president pence. jared kushner meeting with mitch mcconnell to figure out some way to help the president save face. when he does something -- i think pelosi was clear and i

think the state department when they said you can't go -- it's clear he did talk about the commercial plans in a way that would endanger her life and everyone on there. in the conservative media bubble, you remember adam schiff, the president misspelled his name. it's unbelievable we are at this juvenile level. the american people are saying enough of this playground behavior. it's not who we are. >> it's who we are. >> dr. sapphire, juan says the polls indicate everything blames the president for a shutdown. if the president gets the wall and reopens the government, would the american people give him credit for ending the shutdown? >> well, of course. his base would be happy. but the other side who never supports him would come up with something else. he would not get credit.

>> there is an up side for the president? >> i agree. he compromised on the cost of the border wall and compromised on daca. these are things that happened with his campaign. he lowered corporate tax. bombed isis. he has to do the wall. if he foregoes the wall, the republicans will suffer. it's on both side. pelosi is in hawaii. comes back and says she will pull the reins on this and he cancels her trip. get back in the white house and stay in that office until you figure it out. you have 800,000 people not getting paid. when you are praising the

unemployment rate how it keeps going down. now we have employed individuals not getting paid. this is not right. >> this is all about the president want to make a political point. it's not about border security. >> it's for the american people. he got elected saying he would do a wall. >> you are wrong. he got elected saying mexico would pay for the wall. we are not near that. >> a lot of people believed there was a new nafta deal. >> [overlapping talking]. >> this is important. you have now the president's economic advisor. >> [overlapping talking]. >> we always cut him off. >> the federal reserve bank chair in new york saying what is going on is slowing economic growth. the president let mrs. trump fly and won't let pelosi fly.

>> [overlapping talking]. >> we don't need her in the oval office. >> oh, we don't need her. >> it would be interesting to see a specific plan by the democrats. now we have them on record saying they are for enhanced border security. they say it now. even though their leaders said it was immoral. walls were immoral. now they are saying it's moral. we need to see a plan that shows a border without a wall. if you want a deal you will have to create money for an enhanced border. the democrats have to come up with a specific deal with this money that doesn't have any wall. i would like to see that. do you think that is possible? juan, do you believe you could do it without a wall? right it down right now. i want to see you draw it out. >> i don't think it's so hard. >> it's impossible!

>> going through the added security. >> but no wall. >> [overlapping talking]. >> your favorite radio host howard stern said it doesn't work. >> where did you hear that? >> from you. >> [laughing]. >> i know juan was listening. major cracks in the bombshell story about president trump and michael cohen up next. i can't tell you who i am or what i witnessed, but i can tell you liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no... only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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instructed michael cohen to lie to congress about a real estate deal in moscow. rudy giuliani calls the report false and attacking cohen has a convicted criminal and liar. there issa oo there is a new story about corroborating evidence. >> you have seen that? >> no, but the 2 officials we spoke to are fully 100% read it to that aspect of the special's investigation. >> they had access to a number of different documents. two reports. >> juan, you are the journalist at the table. >> wait, excuse me! what? i guess i didn't edit 3 magaz e magazines. >> sorry. >> [laughing]. >> i was about to set juan up for failure. you ruined it for me. >> i was only nominated for a

national magazine award. >> [laughing]. >> what was i going to say. would you have gone with these two sources without seeing other evidence? >> sure. the question is whether or not they are independent of each other. you don't want two guys that are buddies. that we don't know. you don't need to see if. if you have two law enforcement officials saying this is factule and we have seen the documents. that's corroborating evidence. there are questions about a previous story done about one of these reporters. >> i dealt with that. i was a spokesperson one time. this was a story about karl rove in 2006. jason one of the authors works for a group and picked up the story that said karl rove had a

tearful moment in the oval office informing his white house colleagues he was about to be indicted and none of that was true. no other news outlet matched this story. if these two officials exist, they are not talking to any other reporters. >> and both reporters have different stories. leibolt said he has seen it and the other guy says he hasn't. it's one of those what if stories. the business model these days for buzz feed. it's fred sanford from sanford and son. every week, he would grab his heart, i am coming. then he would be there next week. people would forget about it. you are making money and getting viewers because you get the audience riled up.

the impeachment idea is lose-lose for the left and win-win for the right. it turns trump into a folk hero and he ain't going away. you impeach him he is bigger than the president and then you have mike pence. it would be hard to get him out. my advice is go for the impeachment because it will be hilarious or don't go for it and have an election in 2 years. why don't you try to beat the guy instead of trying to cheat the guy. >> with the business model, i wish others would stop doing this, when stories break at 10 p.m. this is big if it's true. >> [laughing]. i will put that out there. >> what my sources say. this is fake news. i have not seen any evidence from the sources. >> [laughing]. >> listen, this guy leibolt had

a rough history. salon removed a story by him. if salon has standards that's a problem. in his personal life he said he is engaged in lying, cheating and back stabbing and battled mental issue and struggled with substance abuse. take his reporting with a grain of salt. >> this is big if it's true. >> [laughing]. >> buzz feed said the same thing about the dossier. there is no corroboration. >> buzz feed was sued but won. >> it is big if it's true. it's only big if there is evidence. you can't just base all of these without evidence.

it's he said, she said. unless the mueller investigation produces the blue dress we can't base everything on he said, she said. >> can i just say the way the things play out, davis who was michael cohen's lawyer was asked about this. his response was, we really can't talk. he didn't say no. previously they said no to some stories. this one they didn't say that. what you get here is a situation where people are now saying, well we are not sure. >> it doesn't matter, right? juan, to your point it doesn't matter if the story is true or not. it was originally about collusion and it's not about that anymore. if we can get one thing to stick. that's all it is. >> [overlapping talking]. whitewater led to impeachment

because he lied. it was not finding guilt of whitewater. that's what they are trying to do here. just get him for lieing. >> it doesn't matter. >> the second point i wanted to make about the repurcussions, president trump put out this thing about i have damaging information on cohen's family. >> this is a lying, embezzling rat represented by a clinton attorney. >> you are talking about michael cohen. >> the women's march losing key supporters and the co-founder makes another controversy comment. it's a big one. that's ahead. i hear it in the background and she's watching too, saying [indistinct conversation] [friend] i've never seen that before. ♪

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support over antisemitism concerns. florida's first jewish congressman debbie wasserman schultz criticized the group's leaders for tied to farrakhan and saying she won't attend the washington march. after refusing to condemn farrakhan the women's march cofounder caused more controversy with these remarks. >> did israel have a right to exist as a nation? >> i said many times everyone has a right to exist. i feel everyone has a right to exist. i don't feel that anyone has a right to exist at the disposal of other group. >> does that include israeli in israel? >> i believe that all people have the right to exist. >> how do you understand what is going on? >> she said i agree everyone has the right to exist. but farrakhan said hitler is a

great man. i think he disposed of a lot of people. i think this is terrible this woman is not condemning his remarks. it's not just anti-semitism. he says white folks are going down and attacks the lbgtq community. she can't condemn this man? talk about being divisive when you have 5 million people following this women's march and the leaders won't condemn farrakhan and his horrible views, that's where the division is coming from. >> jesse, lots of local marches. i read today the new jersey group tied to black lives matter is upset with the national march but their local march is going forward based on the 2017 march that turned out millions to

oppose president trump. >> i will say mom, i don't want to see you watching with these radicals. it's like the sister test but this is the mom test. greg and other conservatives have been highlighting the anti-semitism of the people who are leading this march. it took a year for the democrats to hear what people are saying. i don't want to condemn the entire's women's march, because like the president i cherish women. the leadership speaks from the head. this was hijacked by radicals and people are distancing themselves. i don't see why it's so hard for the democratic party to distance themselves from farrakhan. barack obama had a photograph with him. maxine waters palling around with him. why is it so hard to distance

yourself from farrakhan? >> i have a picture of farrakhan. >> oh, william! condemn! >> i am just saying. it sounds like you are on to something. >> i don't know what though. >> today there was a pro-life march in washington, d.c. president trump and vice-president pence both had messages. what about that one? >> well, that march, i had the president of march for life on the daling briefing. i asked her how is it possible that you continue to have this merchandise every year in the coldest weekend of the year and it grows every year. you have younger people joining every year. the theme this years about the science. science beichanging people's hes and minds. they are united. they are focussed. they do not march for themselves. they march for people who are not able to march for themselves

because they are not here. the women's march with division on the democratic side. >> can i interrupt? i read there were divisions between people who said i am pro-life but not pro-trump. people saying should i go to this march? >> the march for life president said they welcomed everybody. it was not about a party or a person. it was about the be of life. -- the issue of life. the other march. it dominated news coverage for days and lasted so long it propelled democratic women to win in 2018. debbie wasserman schultz is exacting revenge on her party in the ut"usa today." they will never be able to create again or recreate that momentum they had from the beginning. they allowed this to stunt their growth.

it won't help them in 2020. >> nancy pelosi spoke at the last women's march and said this year she could not go likely because she was supposed to be out of the country. now she'll be in the country. will she attend the march? if not will she issue a statement as to why not? >> greg, do you have high heels? will you go tomorrow? >> do you need high heels. the democrats deserve some recognition for stepping away from a grouch hateful group of people. and we have mentioned linda and davis who embraced terrorists and cop killers. why did it take so long? emily answers this question today. because there was no scrutiny of the women's march leaders because we are all on the same team. the media and the women's march are in agreement. we will take your anti-semmites

and focus on policing the alt-right. they are the enemy. but don't look at our back yard. we have people that deny the holocaust and laugh at jews being persecuted and make excuses for cop killers. that's okay. i am glad that so many people are turning away from it. it's an example. you have two variables here. you have the women's march and the march for life. the women's march received so much press. favorable press that you didn't know about a lot of this stuff. the march for life. stoic. selfless. does it every year. represents people who have no voice. trulily a civil rights matter. they are there for people who cannot speak. unborn children cannot speak. they are mocked. they are seen as old-fashioned. they are told what they represent is not even life.

it's some kind of tumor. there are people who make fun of them and made jokes about being pro-life. but they show up and clean up after themselves but ignored by the media. that's a perfect example of media bias. >> i don't think it's an example of media bias. they get coverage every year and i don't know who is mocking them. >> let me do a google search for you. >> we are turning back the clock to the anniversary to a hilarious political moment. that's next on "the five." >> ♪ all new lexus es. every curve, every innovation every feeling. a product of mastery. lease the 2019 es 350 for $399/mo. for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer.

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around the world did anything to his campaign. >> the yell is 15 years old. that means r.kelly can hit on it. >> whew! >> nice one. >> looking back this. it's unfair how life is. one thing back then still exists because we choose to bring it up. it's the anniversary curse. it's the fifth anniversary since the britany spears beat up a car. they will pick something that you do that was embarrassing and replay it as an anniversary. a lot of stuff happens. if something happens to us, it's going to be played once a year. remember when jesse watters walked outside without his pants on? >> i think the producers made the right call. i totally agree with the

program. could we please see it again. >> [laughing]. >> not only are he going to new hampshire. we are going to south carolina and oklahoma and arizona and north dakota and new mexico. we are going to california and texas and new york. we are going to south dakota and oregon and washington and michigan. then we are going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house! >> [laughing]. >> he just did this again at the 2016 dnc convention. this is what he is known for. >> he's said worse things. >> juan, do you like the showboating on campaign trails? >> it's a normal part of politics. it's interesting that you had that response because at the time it damaged his campaign. people thought it was drugs.

today social media amplified it in a wii -- way we had not seen before. howard dean said even now he gets asked about it. he didn't have national political experience. people in the audience did not have that negative response. it was the people watching. >> i agree. they were calling him hot headed even before this. jesse, do you think the scream is what killed his campaign or just more ammunition? >> it definitely damaged his campaign. i was a producer at fox. we played it quite a bit. >> did you really? i am surprised by that. >> i thought you would have moved on quickly. >> that looped for about a week. this was a 3rd place finish. imagine if me finished first. he was the first real grassroots small donation, internet driven

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>> you can never have enough black, bloody sabbath. >> i go with the oak ridge boys. they are still going. >> really good fellows. >> juan? ? >> today i heard that gladys knight will do the star spangled banner at the super bowl. >> that's fantastic. >> greg? >> imagine if we were the pips. >> oh, you are the pips. >> [laughing]. >> i think they were great. wouldn't it have been fun, imagine if you were earth, wind and fire? >> great outfits. >> they would dress up. >> jackson 5. >> i will have to go with the marshall tucker band. >> i like them. >> and ray orbisson, maybe. >> the 60s and 70s bands are now in their 70s and 80s.

i will go with cheap trick. >> they are getting their due here on "the five". "the five." if you were to work a dirty job, what would you pick? that's amazing. juan? >> hmmm, dirty job? i would be greg's assistant. >> [laughing]. >> i would be juan's fact checker. >> there you go. >> dana? >> i will have to go with something on the ranch, like maybe milking cows. >> and that a dirty job? remember when i milked that goat. >> that was dirty. >> i think it was a goat. it was messy and didn't press charges? >> being a doctor, with blood and other things to be dirty. outside of medicine maybe a dog washer and brushing them.

>> is that really dirty? >> if you don't like hair. >> jesse, pick a real dirty job. >> all right, cnn. >> [laughing]. >> filthy animals over there. >> the guy that has to dive into the sewage treatment plant to unclog it. you are diving into a massing swimming pool size of acres of raw sewage. you have to swim in there and clear the clog. i would do that because nothing is dirtier than that except for working at cnn. >> i was reading about el-chappo's trial. he had an escape route under the bath tube and it went into the sewer. >> no one every thinks of the sure. if aliens attacked your house what would be your go to weapon.

doc? >> i don't know. aliens. >> space aliens. >> my mom face. >> that would work. >> i have a switch blade at home. >> westside story. >> my dad's christmas present to me. we can't talk about it. >> wow! >> juan? >> my wife >> [laughing]. >> they would run away! >> well, i would fling human waste at them. in new york city you can't have a gun or i say i can't have a gun. that's what i would do. >> you can do that on demand? >> here we go. >> [laughing]. >> a special talent i learned. "one more thing" is next. appointment

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>> time for "one more thing." >> remember the theme from the movie jaws? >> you will need a bigger boat? >> take a look at this real life monster of a shark. this 20 footer was seen tuesday near hawaii. the shark was feasting on the carc us of a sperm whale. the researchers think is the largest known giant white shark but they are not sure. they saw one this size before and suspect this could be just another huge shark. >> greg? >> we don't need to show a jaws clip when we are showing a giant shark. that took 25 seconds out of the show. >> the greg gutfeld show 10 p.m.

tomorrow night. it will be a doozy. that's 10 p.m. january 19th. saturday, saturday, saturday! >> all right. it's time for greg's cat off. we have 3 cat videos. we vote on which one is the most cat like. and you at home can scream your answer out a window stay stranger. the first cat. trying to say hello to its reflection. it doesn't know what is happening because it's stupid. the second cat, here it is. petting water because it thinks the water goes through its paws. another stupid cat. now the third cat. the final cat. the only cat that matters. cat enjoys the soft feel of a paint roller. >> that's an ugly >> i think we've seen enough

cats. >> the super cute one was a little kitty. number one. >> number one. >> numero uno. >> i am not going to be a tie-breaker and go with number two. therefore, number one wins, 3-1-1. >> time for jesse ace unsolved missvies. >> over moscow, massive smoke rings just hanging in the air. is it a ufo? is it a portal to another dimension? are these smoke signals being sent from the kremlin to the white house? no, juan, they are not. an unsolved mystery.

8:00 p.m. saturday night with sarah sanders, we think. we'll see what happens. anything could happen. this weekend, the nfl's top team, football going on this weekend. for the nfc championship, airing on foxx, we are rampage the ramp taking on gumbo. >> usually, i would say rampage because you have the horns. i do think they are going to win. with the amc, you have pat the patriot and ac, the wolf. i'm going to go with the chiefs on that one. >> the guy has a gun. >> one pennsylvania police department put out a call for a few good men, who are willing to get drunk. that's right, guys. it cuts down the police department, three volunteers to drink hard liquor to the point of inebriation.

they have over 1,000 chairs an they have enough volunteers. they are good to go. see you guys back here monday. shannon bream up next with "special report." we begin with a fox news alert. i'm shannon bream in tonight for bret bear. we are following three major stories. the u.s. and north korea announced a second summit next month between president trump and kim jong-un. the partial government shutdown in its fourth week with no talks of plenty of divisive language. a big announcement from the president. president trump's former fix was asked to lie to congress. democrats promised congressional investigation. peter doocy at the capitol. greg palcot in london with