>> breaking news for the president at 3:00 eastern. jesse called me in at 8:00 eastern tonight. we are back tomorrow. >> a year ago we went live. a year later let's say not much has changed. government shutdown then and the bigger one now. a major snowstorm barreling down now. a woman's march across the nation then. a somewhat more subdued women smart about the kickoff now. the president fixated like a bull in a china shop scoring a major deal with china now. we were on top of all of that breaking news then. that and much more now. awaiting a president on his way to dover air force base to meet with families of those americans killed in syria this past

weekend prepared to make a major announcement to the american people from the white house later this day. could it be all for the democrats to end this shutdown? another reminder we are nowhere near the end of this shutdown. that is the storm that could come and the market storm that has so many primed and it has a lot of folks sitting pretty. we are watching the skies and the stocks like we were last year when we first went live and never looked back. the news never stops, why should we? the government might be shutdown but we are not. we owe you that then, we are you that now like we promised you a year ago. cavuto live starts now. ♪ "cavuto" heather: the wicked storm bearing down. in the meantime it is going to

affect all continental united states states. you are looking at rain or snow or a combination therein, 200 million americans caught up in its ac path. let's get to the latest. >> if you're in manchester, that is where it is going to be. you started it. it is really cold, cold air coming in behind the storm. and right along the big city from boston to new york city and philadelphia where we are wondering if it is rain or snow. severe weather across parts of the deep south, the 7 end in effect until 1:00 in the afternoon toward the deep south. north of this, a little bit

north of that, to the north. in chicago you are about done. detroit, cleveland, buffalo, winter storm warnings extend all the way to parts of maine but where it doesn't go is across southern jersey and long island. here's the forecast precipitation. snow in interior sections, we will see some spots, but you see that peak, if you're concerned about the ice from the storm, down across the valley, towards connecticut. much of long island and new jersey, new york city, then it is going to be a snow event. neil: the president leaving the white house to go for the arrival of victims of the syria attack. >> announcing it in the future.

kim jong un is looking forward to it and so am i. we made a lot of progress that has not been reported by the media but we made a lot of progress as far as denuclearization is concerned, talking about a lot of different things. we made tremendous progress that has not been reported unfortunately but it will be. things are going very well with north korea. things are going very well with china and with trade. there were false reports about sanctions being removed. we have tremendous amounts of money in the united states. because of the sanction. we will see how it goes. if we make a deal we wouldn't -- if we don't make a deal, we will. i think china, we really had a very extraordinary number of meetings and a deal could happen with china. it is going very well. i would say as well as it could possibly go.

without a question. >> what goes through your mind that moments like this? >> it is the toughest thing i have to do. i'm going to meet relatives of our great heroes that have fallen, i think it might be the toughest thing i have to do as president. what we have done is when i took over, syria was loaded with isis and when you say to it i always said who are we cuddling isis for? the worst enemy of russia, iran, syria is isis. we are killing isis for people that are not necessarily an agreement with us. we have gone into syria and in two years we have reduced it to

about 99% of the territorial caliphate. that doesn't mean you are not going to have somebody around and who knows what happens in who it was, nobody is sure. but i will say this. syria was a mess. we have done bashar al-assad a big favor and we've done our country a favor. we brought it down to less then 1%. we didn't stop. we could be pulling back but we have been hitting ice is hard in the last 3 weeks in particular over the last three weeks. moving along very well. moving along very well. when i took over it was a total mess. you have to ask yourself, we are killing isis, for russia, for iran, for syria, for iraq, for a lot of other places. at some point you want to bring our people back home. i've been talking about this since the campaign.

we have done, we are down to 99%, control of 99% and we are hitting the rest of it powerfully over the last three weeks. i am going to be making a statement at 3:00 today. i hope you will be there but it will be an important statement. having to do with the as you know caravans are coming up, a big one coming up now. i'm disappointed mexico is not stopping them. mexico seems unfortunately powerless to stop them. many got through, they broke through the mexican area where in. they were guarded, they were not so well guarded. a lot of people in caravans coming up. if we had a wall we wouldn't have a problem but we have too many open areas. the walls we picked and the walls we built, we have a lot of open areas and the previous

caravan, right now in tijuana. and i can tell you that. you are going to see at 3:00. i hope speaker pelosi can come along and realize what everybody knows, no matter who it is, they know walls work and we need walls. whether it is personal or not, she is being controlled by the radical left which is a problem. she is under total control of the radical left. that is a very bad thing for her and a bad thing for the

democrats. everybody knows that walls work. you look at different places they put up a wall, no problem. you look at san antonio, you look at so many different places that go from one of the most unsafe cities in the country to one of the safest immediately. immediately. it works. we have to put them up and we will put them up. i think we are making a lot of progress. we are building a wall as we speak, nobody covers that and i understand that but we are building a wall as we speak and we are going to continue. this country cannot be secure. you have human traffickers, criminals of all kinds, drug pushers and drug smugglers at a level people haven't seen over the last 5 or 6 years. it has gone to a point nobody has seen anything like it. border patrol has done an incredible job.

we need the backup of a wall. i thought it was, i thought that the buzz feed peace and maybe equally as bad, the coverage of the buzz feed phony story it was a total phony story and i appreciate the special counsel coming out with a statement last night and it was very appropriate they did so. i very much appreciate that. the buzz feed peace was a disgrace to the country. it was a disgrace to journalism and the coverage by the mainstream media was disgraceful and i think it is going to take a long time for the mainstream media to recover its credibility. it lost tremendous credibility. i am the president of this country. media could pull the country together.

it hurts me to say it but mainstream media has truly lost its credibility and i can say as far as i'm concerned from before the election, during the campaign, this was really crooked, when the new york times apologized after the election. they were wonderful for two weeks and went back to being worse than ever before and so many others, not just blaming the time. the mainstream media lost its credibility and that is a bad thing for our country. thank you very much. >> the president of the united states on air force one, where he is going to greet the families of those americans who were killed in syria, isis inspired attack this past week, a special mention made of the

us-led coalition and airstrikes, that killed 200 isis fighters in syria including those masterminding this attack on this group of americans. the president also saying he will make an announcement at 3:00 pm on the shutdown. do we know more than we did before about what he might be talking about? >> reporter: the president and the white house have been tightlipped about what the announcement wouldn't help. there's a lot of speculation, the president was considering holding out a national emergency order to build his wall on the southern border. with this president you can never tell. it is something he could announce but no details being released at this point. when he announced this, i will be making a major announcement concerning the humanitarian crisis on the southern border and the shutdown tomorrow at

3:00 pm live from the white house. the president was departing the white house, he has been slamming the report by buzz feed news which claims the special counsel has evidence the president directed his former attorney and fixer michael cohen to lie to congress. the special counsel office issued a rare statement refuting that report saying, quote, buzz feed's description of specific statements to the special counsel's office and characterization of documents and testimony it came by referring to michael cohen's congressional testimony are not accurate. the president tweeted many people saying the mainstream media will have a hard time restoring credibility because of the way they treated me for the past two years including the election lead up and highlighted by the disgraceful buzz feed story and even more disgraceful coverage. as you mentioned the president is on his way to dover air force base to meet with families of the four americans killed in a suicide blast in syria wednesday. three of the four have been identified.

jonathan farmer and shannon kent and intelligence agency civilian scott worth. that suicide attack prompted a fresh round of criticism for the withdrawal of us troops from syria, defending that decision a short time ago. neil: let's go to republican senator from south dakota, i don't know what the president will be saying at 3:00 pm, halted or changed the dynamics, what do you think? >> i hope he will offer once again the attempt to find a middle ground for colleagues on the other side of the aisle. i think this time he may very well try and do it in such a fashion. the public understand it is not the president that is dragging feet, this particular case had no response from our colleagues on the other side of the aisle. until you open up the government we are going to not even talk to

you and that is something he made clear they have got to agree he has the same right as the last president to try to improve border security including barriers and vehicle barriers on the southern border. neil: have you heard whether he might entertain declaring an emergency? >> i have not heard that. that is his prerogative. i think the part people have to understand is there are four presidents that helps improve this in a row. you have 1954 miles of international border and right now 654 miles of that, pedestrian barrier or vehicle barrier. what the president wants to do is 234 more miles. that is what the 6.4, $6.5 billion would get.

to try to take these hotspots down there and make it more difficult to enter illegally. 51,000 more -- that started in october. october, november, december, 51,000 of illegal border crossings. neil: to avoid a situation we are on, you have come up with legislation to prevent that in the future. what does it involve? >> i am a cosponsor of a proposal that is beginning in 2021, we can't do anything to affect are paying this time. go, we have to wait until after the next election for what we are proposing is if we don't get all the appropriations bill done by september 30th of this year there is no pay for any member of congress. furthermore there is no backpay.

from november you don't pay. then you find ways forward. it happened four times in the last 45 years. this time the appropriation had all the bills out and acted on way before the deadline. because of an election process, 75% of those bills across the finish line. 25% is what we are suffering, and can be wedged and nobody, absolutely nobody wins a government shutdown. neil: is it your sense that with so much attached to this, nancy pelosi disinvited the president from speaking on the house floor for a state of the union address, rand paul told me

earlier this week, to the senate side -- >> that has been discussed. he would love the opportunity to invite the president but before we go that route let's see if cooler heads prevail, we can get -- if the president takes this first step, saying i'm going to offer another thing, take the first step forward in this discussion. heather: neil: we don't know what that other thing is. >> we should know in the next couple hours. neil: good seeing you again. for a lot of folks in the continental united states they are focused on something of the mother nature variety. jeff flock going get chicago's o'hara national airport, could be a doozy.

>> i much prefer man against nature to man against man and that is what we have out here today. right here, the worst of it is past chicago. you can see it is not bad right now. he was right about the forecast, 5 to 7 inches, maybe eight inches. what the numbers of cancellations at o'hare as well as around the country. delays, 600 plus delays, 1100 plus in terms of cancellations. you have a pretty decent shot at getting somewhere on time if your flight is leaving. look at the lines out here, not bad at all. a quarter or so of flight, the stress on the system. talking about the shutdown these guys are working at tsa, those tsa guys are not being paid right now. a number of them have been

calling in sick. some of them driving ubers to make money on the side. that put pressure on the system today because fewer people, less pressure on the system. look at the boards. a lot of red. read the means canceled, yellow means delayed. if your flight is going you have a good chance of getting there on time but the arrivals, you see the arrival board, lots of flights, snow, not a disaster, just snow and it is coming your way. neil: thank you for reminding me of that. great watching you in an airport dealing with the elements. we are getting more on that storm and what they are looking for. just the mention of it has ground traffic to a halt in new york. a lot of people saying they are not going to bother in the big apple and a lot of places. in new england another story, upwards of two feet. this massive storm depending on

the severity in different regions of the country will either produce rain or ice or snow or a combination of all the above. we are top of it and the president hinting at a major announcement on his ongoing shutdown that is more than a month old and 3:00 pm eastern today. what will it be? acting ice director has his hopes after this. ing around here ing around here in their hundreds. so how do you stay financially well for all those extra years? well, you have to start planning as early as possible. we all need to plan, for 18 years or more, of retirement. i don't have a whole lot saved up, but i'm working on it now. i will do whatever i need to do. plan your financial life with prudential. bring your challenges.

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>> mick mulvaney and mike pence might come up with a solution that senator schumer and the democrats and nancy pelosi feel is consistent. neil: democrats have changed their live on this. the things you are repudiating now. >> i don't know that i agree with that. we repudiated -- we've always been against the wall and always thought the wall was an ineffective way. >> i went to the floor and spoke in favor of ice. those are men and women doing their job. we have an issue with the policy, something congress needs to address. we -- whether they are cvp officers or border patrol, i support those folks. >> i'm homeland security secretary kirstjen neilsen. it is popular to say ice is bad

but there's no better representation of american values than ice. >> ice has prevented terrorists from coming into the country. i find it repulsive this so-called comedian wants to call ice terrorists when we are rest, dismantle terrorist organizations. neil: amazing, the last year we've been doing this so almost every weekend, border security, wall, whatever you want to call it, dominated one or all parts and continues to this day. acting ice director, thank you for taking the time. >> congratulations on a year's with a broadcast. neil: thank you very much. the more things change the more they don't. we've been having this argument but the oddity of being against the wall and calling it immoral is the same folks who voted for wall funding under barack obama.

i am wondering whether this is more political stagecraft than anything else including among republicans, and the children of legals who came through no fault of their own or legal limbo. when in fact they are very flexible on this and democrats are open to a wall. what is going on? >> the president is committed to delivering the promises he made to protect the border and for someone who has done this my entire adult life, having a barrier at the border means something. having immigration system would mean something. ice is doing their part and we would like to see this. heather: neil: do you know, whisper in my if you don't want to share with the country, what the president is going to say at 3:00 pm? how to move this needle? >> i can't get ahead of the president.

neil: you know, don't you? >> know i don't. i'm sure he will reinforce his commitment to protecting the country for homeland security and border security. neil: would you be open to declaring an emergency? they won't move, i will? >> it sound like it might be progress. i have no idea what it will do. neil: another thing is declaring an emergency might get the government back operating again but it would surely be slapped down by any one of the circuit courts across the country and then we are back to square one. than what? >> that is a challenge for us. we have been trying in the administration to improve conditions at the border and regulate immigration, we have been stymied in the courts quite often. neil: another idea that has been broached that a lot of supporters 18 showed enormous looks ability, and he is not married to a wall per se.

are you saying we need a wall or something like it across the entire 2000 mile border? >> the -- it is not necessary even. >> what would satisfy someone like you to know this? >> and during capable of for agents at the border so when they are monitoring the border, the barrier slows down traffic and anchored the response and technology that goes along with it, you have to have that system and a barrier or wall that is important to have. neil: folks are focusing on a caravan that is coming up and changed in this debate over the past year. i got a concept of the caravan, we have seen more and more of this even though illegal movement across the border have slowed down, the president is arguing what is a big worry is

this caravan activity, is that the issue for you that would justify declaring an emergency? >> this is a big problem. we are in a situation where the way the law is operational, the loopholes that exist, people are bringing children to the border, sending children to the border and essentially getting released into the society, it's not good for them and not good for border security and or homeland security overall. >> i want to get a sense from you if this were to drag on, or something attempting to be immigration reform, then what? what are we in for? >> most of the ice personnel protecting america. that talk to the leadership, homeland security investigation, and attorney teams. people are concerned about the morale of the workforce and they are doing their jobs.

neil: thank you very much for your service. we appreciate it. a major government shutdown a good chunk of it for the better part of a month, you would think wall street was selling off this news. since all this started the dow is up better than 8%. what is really happening here? let's get a read from that, we have retail watcher, my buddy and foxbusiness friend on his business card. what is going on here. why does the market move up on this? >> despite hysteria in the media it is not affecting the economy that much. what is affecting the economy is the strength of the economy. neil: a big draw for those who illegally want to get in. >> good point. one of the changes that was

suggested this week is allow for a guest worker program which i think would be terrific. right now we have more jobs in american people to fill jobs. and from overseas the president wants to prepare some kind of visa for folks who do manual labor. we need bricklayers, people in the field, we need people to do stuff for which you don't need a college degree or one of these advances. we need a new kind of visa for manual workers and might be one way to come to a resolution. perhaps a moderate democrats would agree on that would fit into the new immigration policy the president wants. neil: the reason the market missed it, this won't go on forever but it has been a month. i understand today's point

underlying fundamentals with china trade talks, but are we kind of being propelled toward this? >> pl financial crunched the numbers from 2006-2013. you want to know how it affected the markets, 0%. overall in that span of time, investors, i don't want to say they don't care but it has no effect. neil: they appreciate what it means but it is like a hurricane. it is reversed once things are backed up. >> what has the impact is in 2011, when the economy was downgraded. neil: the s&p downgraded our debt with aaa. >> that had the impact on the markets.

the next day the market dropped 0.7%. neil: we were shutdown, the s&p built the move. >> exactly. when you have stuff like that that happens that is when investors get testy. it has an impact on stocks and investors, the temperature of the investor also earnings in this earnings season. and we -- neil: underlying fundamentals are good. >> when we look at what is happening here, historically, the market has been up during shutdowns 44% of the time so there's not a lot. neil: you did not make that figure up. >> what matters to the market, the fed monetary policies has what is going on with china. that is what people are concerned about. we are going to see segments of the market that will fuel the impact of the shutdown,

specifically those relying on government revenue. it, aerospace, they are going to feel it. neil: we are seeing the lazy night be as and loans the can't go through, seeing it in loans the can't close, it goes on and on that it spread its tentacles. >> those are economic issues and we are talking about the stock market. >> two different issues. >> yesterday there was a rumor that bloomberg came out with that we made some dramatic progress with china, they agreed to import more stuff. i had larry kudlow on on the foxbusiness network yesterday evening and he denies the report saying it is not true. we are trying to work, this report is inaccurate. the bloomberg report suggesting china was going to import more stuff to get to a 0 trade

balance for the united states. neil: they deny the report by the treasury getting involved. >> even though he poured cold water on the store the market in futures looking towards monday, lord knows if it will up but if they didn't react badly the futures are up a little bit. neil: it pooh-poohed the report that whatever you gain is reversed. >> china does move the markets. on the other hand the economy is so strong on its own that even when the white house says we are not making as much progress as blue big said we are. >> no denying with this shutdown, government workers losing $1 billion in income. >> i'm talking pulled the emotion out of the thing. they were up dramatically.

they are -- i wouldn't say evil but amoral. neil: some warm stew it. >> that is our italian background. neil: 7 addictive. the political fallout from all of this and a disputed report on buzz feed, the same networks that were championing it around the clock yesterday at this time, crickets now, after this.

presidential candidate. >> thanks congratulations on when you're on the show. neil: let's talk about what you would like to hear out of the president. we don't know what he is going to say. >> i would love to hear the president say is going to open up government, that he will sign into law what has been passed before the shutdown and been passed by the house of representatives which is to fund border security. there is bipartisan consensus to do that. there too many people out of work, people who depend on the government whether it is fda, political trials that are ongoing or air-traffic controllers. i was at the airport, tsa agents were working without pay. hopefully that announces the government's reopen. neil: a lot of your colleagues

voted for the wall you are opposing when barack obama was president. it is because they just hate this president? >> i don't think that is the case. i can only speak for myself. i think the president has failed to articulate what he wants in a wall. just as i was sitting down i saw a tweet from the president where he said a new caravan is on its way and fortunately they haven't been able to get through because there is a wall but we need to put out a wall because there's not enough border patrol agents. neil: it doesn't have to be a wall, could be steeler slats. i haven't seen similar flexibility out of your colleagues. i might have missed it. >> i point out the tweet because it is contradictory. is there a wall or not a wall? i am for having barriers where there are vulnerabilities which i'm not for sea to shining sea concrete wall or steel wall. neil: is a barrier to you in moral? nancy pelosi has said that a wall is immoral. do you agree with her?

>> yes. i know there are areas -- neil: is it immoral along the san diego tijuana border where it seems to be working? >> again, the way the president has characterized the wall has been all over the place. neil: is that in moral? immoral indicates it is so cool that it doesn't work, shouldn't even entertain it getting your state along that border, seems to be very much. patrol and there's also visa overstay and maybe we should look at how to enforce that. neil: are you running for

president? >> i'm considering it. i could make a difference by going big by being bold in solutions i would offer on healthcare, energy, reducing -- neil: you have a lot of competition from those in your state. you are okay with that? >> that's okay. it is a talented state. lesion what would you offer kamala harris? >> i admire her. from my own story, i grew up as first in the family to go to college, being the kid of a police officer, their boys -- their dream was if they worked hard they could do better for themselves and better for their kids but i don't see that being fulfilled everywhere in america. many places where donald trump promised to bring opportunity but have not seen it yet. i would fulfill that. neil: there's consternation over this buzz read story that prompted bob mueller folks to say what they are saying is not so.

what was said in that that is not so, the president says it is a sad day for journalism, said day for the news industry. not all the news industry but do you think people who left on the report, that the president told michael cohen to lie to congress should apologize? >> we should hear from michael cohen and see the bob mueller report. buzz feed is standing by their story. to distill this a little bit, the southern district of new york has been involved with michael cohen. the special counsel's statement, seeking documents the special counsel has. neil: something prompted mueller's folks to make a statement which they never do, to say -- >> they wanted to be clear they are not the source. neil: how do you know -- this is wrong, stop it? >> this would be evidence of collusion but i also said

evidence is not a conclusion meaning it has to be tested. you have to challenge it. >> evidence built on a faulty premise, and it is there wrongly. >> bring in the witnesses, on how the intelligence committee and judiciary committee, we can subpoena the third-party document. leland: there were many on your party who said impeach on this alone. >> i wasn't there. neil: people should cool it on this. >> yes. we should investigate, do our job, wait for the mueller report and where we can do work, proceed. neil: thank you very much. let us know about that presidential bid. always good seeing you. sean spicer on all of this. the president just arriving at dover air force base to meet the families of those four americans who were killed in syria, seen

as a response to the president's moved to take american troops out of syria. we want to get a read from sean spicer on this. this is one of the president said one of the tougher tasks of being a president of the united states, to do this sort of thing. do you think it is fair to see -- to say these killings are in response to the president's moved to pull our troops out of syria? >> congratulations on the anniversary, an honor to be here, well done. i was there the first time the president made one of these phone calls and i have come to believe that transform somebody to being president. when you watch her servicemember killed on your watch because of action that was taken that transforms how you view your role in the job of being president.

with respect to the current situation in syria, i have a hard time believing is a direct correlation to the intelligence reports, but there's nothing i have seen publicly that leave me to believe there is a direct correlation between his announced future policy and the current action and it doesn't make sense because if you think about it, taking an action like that if it was direct correlation it would seemingly have an undermining effect on those who have been calling for a pull out saying this is what happened. senator graham and others immediately coming to that conclusion. if there was a ton of evidence that that was the case, the voices would be much louder. neil: yesterday at this time the media was breathless with the buzz feed story that reported the president told michael cohen to lie to congress, that would be instruction of justice and impeachable offense if it got that far. now crickets on these other networks.

on revelation of that bob mueller's team did the unusual to refute that. the story itself might be false. we don't know what they are referring to but that coverage is scanned. >> the point you made can't be underscored enough. the two reporters who are there to go on separate networks intel competing stories, how they actually saw firsthand the documents. they contradict each other and admit they never viewed the documents. other networks and outlets race all day to max the reporting, nobody can. ronan ferro has broken it out of stories and said this similar stuff. in the meantime as you pointed

out members of congress and so many in the media set of true this is and impeachable offense, spent all they speculating on this story and follow these two reporters blindly into this. it is bad on both feet and bad on those reporters. their editor, ben smith, continued to stand by and admit no blame on this. i think it is reprehensible what buzz feed is done. buzz feed and ben smith have a pattern on this. how many people in the mainstream journalism profession follow them blindly acting as though they are pros. from the get-go out of this those two reporters telling contradictory stories, admitting in different ways they have never seen the source documents, should have been a huge red light to stop reporting on this. instead they blindly followed them into it because it is anti-trump and that is all that matters for the use folks. to your point this is the thing, they are covering it.

msnbc, cnn spent all day speculating on the consequences of it. they -- they created this. reason they are not covering the reversal. >> not just the reversal but the role in it and hyped it up and they act as if they didn't have anything to do with it. neil: not enough to say we botched it. always good seeing you. >> one last thing i want to say you asked as well, i am not running for president. neil: you are not, good. the people who are not running for president, that is official, sean spicer is not running for president. dozens are. after this. oh, hey jeff, i'm a car thief... what?! i'm here to steal your car because, well, that's my job. what? what?? what?! (laughing) what?? what?! what?! [crash] what?! haha, it happens.

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neil: there was a women's much, this year another women's march. what are we looking at? >> all around the country, it is about the start. at 10, 15 minutes through a couple hours we are blocks away from the white house on pennsylvania avenue. the crowd is not as big as in years past. they are looking at 10,000 people just two years ago when this began in 2017, the day after donald trump took office, we saw hundreds of thousands of people at that point. the reason we are looking at lower numbers, earlier this week or controversy brewed up, one of the co-chairs was tied to anti-semitic comments made by louis farrakhan, the leader of the nation of islam.

we are told they have a friendship that has gone back several years and she declined to condemn him when pressed about this issue monday. take a listen. >> as i said, i don't agree with many of mister farrakhan's statements. i don't agree with these statements. at the end of the day, to be very clear, it is not my language, not the way i speak or organize. >> reporter: because of this comments the dnc and other organizations like grassroots political effort, backed down on this, thousands of people here today at the washington march. expected to kick off in a few minutes and go on for the next couple hours. neil: welcome to fox, it is good having you. we have a lot going on here and it will get more attention as to what is going to happen now if

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>> all right. we've got an ongoing government shutdown and a storm barreling down and that one could be a biggie, especially for the eastern coast of the united states. 200 million americans in its path. whether it is as big an issue as they had feared in chicago, well, let's go to jeff flock with the latest on that. hey, jeff. >> it was exactly what we expected, neil, which is wonderful. that was rick at the ready with a great forecast. this is the scene right now at o'hare. i tell you an incredible snow fighting capability and theers-- the erstwhile airport. you look at the delays

nation-wide and we'll put the numbers up. some increase since the last hour, i it he will you, you have a pretty good shot if your flight is actually getting out, you have a pretty good shot at getting out on time because there are fewer flights out there and the airports are doing a pretty good job. this is the leading edge. chicago and then detroit, and then cleveland and on to the northeast. maybe we come back live here and you see, planes indeed taking off. that's an american flight right there, just taking off as we speak. pictures earlier though, it wasn't this pretty. take a look at some pictures we captured earlier this morning of what it looked like when the snow was really flying. still snowing at this hour, but not quite as heavily has it was before leading to delays and cancellations. folks in the airport, some of them sleeping in there, and occasionally they'd bring cots out if it gets really bad, but last night, not so bad and so, you know, as i said, seven, ten inches in chicago, that's

nothing. it's headed your way though and we'll see how well you handle it there in new york and to the north. neil. neil: you know what i've done, jeff, i've introduced my two teenage sons to something called a shovel! we'll see what happens, let you know. >> good luck with that, sir, the experience with that. neil: yeah, tell me about it. great job as always, my friend. how would you like to be a governor dealing with this. you're right in the epicenter of it, because new hampshire is expected to get really hit up to two feet of snow, maybe n more. that state's governor chris sununu. how does it look? >> right now it's beautiful and we'll get 18 inches, two feet, nothing we can't handle, but it's all about prepping. we've got 650 pieces of equipment on the road and prep the road little before the storm comes and make sure people are off the road over the long weekend. us in new england, you know, we have a very busy day watching tom brady, and have the chicken wings early and snuggle in,

monday and tuesday we will be in great shape. neil: probably good thing he's on the road for that game. you're used to dealing with this and many of your residents are, but the freeze afterwards, i mean, how do you guys decide, that is governor's in the storm's path, how do you decide when to shut down roads, get people by executive order off the roads? how do you go about that? >> well, speaking strictly for new hampshire, it is a very rare thing that we would shut down government or even shut down roads, frankly. we just prepare. i mean, this is new hampshire, new england, we can really handle it. the toughest part-- people don't realize when you get three to nine inches of heavy snow that's harder to deal with than two feet of fluffy snow. knowing what comes in and prepping three, four, five days beforehand with the local towns and phone calls to make sure local levels are prepared and we have the state resources we've become pretty adept at it. it doesn't mean we don't have situations that don't get hairy

sometimes, but we've become pretty adept to make sure the locals have the resources they need and we're prepping and clean up quick and get back to work. neil: and governor, if you don't mind, we're dealing with this ongoing government shutdown, partial shutdown, whatever it is, it's a record. the president is going to be making comments in the white house 3 p.m. eastern time. four hours from now. what do you want to hear from him? >> that they're going to get the job done and allow the federal workers not just the ones furlough and working for a month without a paycheck, they'll get their paycheck and everything back to normal. and god bless the president for coming out and making a statement. he's actually in washington. i'd like to see all of congress actually in washington, not taking trips here, there and everywhere. there's a job to do and if this is having a real impact not just on services in the states, but the families. let's remember, thousands and thousands of federal workers in pretty much every state that are going to workday after day without a paycheck. without a paycheck. that's a major strain on their family and god bless them for

doing that. you can't expect that to go on much longer-- >> it seems like each side, governor is afraid to blink or look like they've made concessions. there's been talk, president in order to get the monkey off his back here would declare an emergency, see how this goes, of course courts invariably weigh in. and at least the government would open. how do you feel? >> get the government open. get the government open. as a governor and i think i speak for 49 others, i don't care what it takes, compromise, move the ball forward, but there are services that need to be provided and people that are going pay too long without their paycheck, do their job, everyone has to do their job. neil: i apologize. governor, your state is the launching ground for so many presidential campaigns. i know liz warren will be there, a host of others, it might be easier to keep track of the democrats who don't want to run for president than those who do. it's going to get very, very

crowded. it's your sense right now that that benefits or hurts the president? >> in terms of the democrats coming in? >> that so many-- >> it doesn't matter. no, no doesn't matter. look, the president is going to be successful because he will have policies that are implemented that drive the economy forward, create opportunities for families, opportunities for the government itself to make better investments into their programs. i'm a big believer whether you're running for school board, governor or president, actions speak louder than anything else. actions for the country. and congress, they haven't done much the past two years so my message to everyone in washington is take a lesson from governors, from the states that are actually doing things, driving positive policies, actually getting to work, finding compromise. they all have to do a much better job in washington and frankly wouldn't hurt to look to the states to see how to get it done. neil: governor, thank you very much. we'll see how your patriots do against kansas city.

they're going to be playing in cold weather, i guess not as cold as they feared, right? >> it will be pretty cold, but tom brady, god bless him, tv 12, i'm 43-41, yeah. neil: we'll hold you to that. thank you very much. bob mueller's team is now disputing this report that the president had ordered his lawyer, michael cohen to lie to congress. now, others are saying, no, no, that is not what the mueller people said. the read from a former whitewater counsel ken starr after this. failure is not an option. more than half of employees across the country bring financial stress to work. if you're stressed out financially at home, you're going to be too worried to be able to do a good job. i want to be able to offer all of the benefits that keep them satisfied. it is the people that is really the only asset that you have.

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>> the mueller investigation completed, i think it's absolutely ridiculous and even stupid to want to impeach someone before the investigation is over, while at the same time he's saying we need to protect the investigation. >> he's the key player, he's a central figure throughout this entire narrative, ran the

clinton investigation, the lead investigator on the russia investigation and he's the key investigator and i think the sequence of text messages are important. remember, peter strzok opens the russia investigation on july 31st, eight days later we have the text message we saw in the report, we will stop trump from being president. neil: and rosenstein met with the president and no one confirmed this that he told the president the second time in as many months you are not the focus or the target of this investigation, this bob mueller investigation. do you believe that? >> i have confidence in mr. rosenstein. i have confidence in mr. mueller. i want both of them to be able to do their jobs. i think the fewer comments we made about-- we make about conclusions, the better off we are. give nem the space they need to complete this investigation. >> bob mueller, if the president

is not the target, assuming that's the case, where does it go? >> we have to see where bob goes with the attorney general. it's the ultimate decision is by the deputy attorney general of the united states not by bob mueller. neil: we have been talking about this for a year now, more than a year, year and a half. when this show started i thought last year at this time, certainly by now this report would be out and done and we'd be moving on, but we're not. former whitewater independent counsel ken starr author of "contempt", the clinton investigation. >> good to be with you, happy anniversary and many happy returns, neil. neil: thank you, ken. i appreciate that. it's interesting that this goes on and on and on and now, there is the buzz feed report that it seems to be shot down by the mueller folks, but not over the direct issue at hand, according to buzzfeed that the president has urged michael cohen, his

lawyer, to lie to congress. so we don't know, but we do know there was major retracting going on. what do you think the mueller folks were saying was wrong? >> well, i think they were saying that buzzfeed just got it wrong. now, whatever buzzfeed sources are, they have been, i think, outed by bob mueller. i think there were concerns, i assume, about the integrity of the investigation, these leaks, wrong though they be, did they come out of the mueller investigation. i think that bob mueller was extremely well-advised to say i've got to take the initiative here. there's been too much word parsing. he said not accurate. neil: so it's safe to say that not accurate referred to the fact that they have evidence that the president told cohen to lie to congress. that's what he was referring to? >> that's the key. neil: right, okay. >> that's the key. just that buzzfeed is wrong and i think that we can just let that go for the time being.

i know that buzzfeed has come back and so forth, but i think the burden is on buzzfeed to show hey, we know what we're doing. but i would go with bob mueller on this one? when you were investigating the clintons and you would catch a media report that was all over the map at the time and i'm sure you had to field a lot of inqui inquiries and the rest. and when you saw something so glaring and it prompted a response, did anything happen and b, what did you do? >> i was actually much more open and transparent than bob mueller has been. that's his judgment call. i think when you're exercising authority you need to be health accountable and the public needs to be informed to the fullest extent possible consistent with the law. he has chosen to be really mum and there's a lot of common sense in that. it avoids any charges from defense lawyers who are ready like cats to pounce on the mouse. and the independent counsel is

the mouse, or the special cou counsel. but from time to time we'd do it collaboratively, we have to straighten this out, consistent that you not reveal grand jury information, which is a crime. neil: ken, as long as this has been going on, i remember it was a dominant theme of my show last year when it started, and the consensus was building we're only a few months away from the reporting. i'm not so sure about that and i dismissed you because i'm not a lawyer and i read a prompter so i thought i was in a position to dismiss, but it's uncanny that it lingers and drags on now. what i'm wondering, do any of the tea leaves that you parse now indicate any closer to getting results? >> i think he is so far-- bob mueller is so far along in the investigation, as indicated by the fact that the very

important indictments of the 13 russian individuals and the three russian organizations, that's about a year old now. and so he had done a enormous amount of work, he and his team getting into the bottom of what was going on in terms of the original mandate which is collusion. when you go back to the indi indictments there's not one word about collusion. the american people are frustrated and want to know about that. they don't need to know about paul manafort's corruption. and this fell to bob mueller and rod rosenstein. i don't fault that. the decisions along the way and i experienced it and i recount this in my book. along the way i'm looking into the whitewater land deal what do i have, the attorney general of the united states says look into the fbi files matters, the white

house travel office matter and so forth. but we're behind the veil of ignorance. we don't know what the assignments are that bob mueller has taken on. neil: so, we've learned from your investigation through no-fault of your own, that they can veer into other areas and yours did, originally looking at real estate deals and the like and ultimately it was about an intern and a dress and lying and all of that. and do you get a sense that this investigation might be veering away from russian collusion or anything like that to maybe, shady business deals and that will be the focus? >> well, i think that's a danger because the reason that bob mueller was appointed was to address the collusion crimes committed in connection with the political campaign. if we move beyond that into shady or perfectly honest business dealings, then we're extending, right, the investigation. we're not getting the report.

we're not-- and this is a special assignment. and so i fear that under these circumstances, there may be a veering away, but here is the check, there is a check, there's a balance. i think there's a misunderstanding that bob mueller does whatever bob mueller wants to do. wrong. now we'll be reporting as soon as bill barr will be confirmed, i hope he will be, he's superbly qualified. he will be reporting on the big issues, not day-to-day issues, but big issues, are you going to be investigating this particular business transaction or whatever. he will be reporting to bill barr and i think that's a good thing and frankly, a source of comfort to the country. neil: bill barr indicated if he were attorney general he would let it continue its due course and while he's inclined to release that report or as much as he can, there's no guarantee that he would. what did you make of that? >> oh, absolutely. bill barr is a person who's going to enforce the law, and

one thing that a lot of people have commented have not reflected adequately, not a criticism, just a fact, on the text of the regulations. that's the law and what those regulations say, neil, with respect to the reporting requirement, is the attorney general is going to get a confidential report and then the attorney general does his report to congress. i think there's been an inadequate understanding what the regulations, and as a final point on that, the regulations were drafted in 1999, as a response to everyone recoiling about the referrals that my investigations sent up to congress. now, that referral was mandated boy congress and the independent counsel law. it had an approach in that statute that geared the entire-- the dynamic was toward impeachment and i think the regulations, which attorney general to be barr is bound to

follow represents a restoration of the traditions of the department that you don't go around accusing people of things in reports when you don't choose to indict. neil: well put. ken starr, very good having you here. thank you very much. >> thank you, and again, happy anniversary from the great state of texas. neil: well, that's a great compliment. i appreciate it. and the new house financial services chair maxine waters is sending shock waves through to banks, and letting it be known they're a powerful voting block and letting it be known in dozens of cities across the country. the women's march is on. >> m worried about my parents' retirement. oh, don't worry. voya helps them to and through retirement... ...dealing with today's expenses... ...like college... ...while helping plan, invest and protect for the future. so they'll be okay... without me? um... and when we knock out this wall...

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the big banks and their activities included by holding many hearings. neil: what's going to happen right now? i think for banking executives it's got to be, boss, it's maxine waters on line one. and the chair maxine waters sending a very, very big message to the institutions. there's a new sheriff in town and a new party in the house and i'm going to let you know it and of course, that new hampshire congress woman sensation, alexandria ocasio-cortez. and so it's going to be a rough and tumble world in the financial community. and let's get to this. if you're in the financial arena, are you worried by what you're hearing? this is just the house, senate,

white house still under republican control. what do you think? >> she's certainly driving the headlines and when you see something like ocasio-cortez-- . >> by the way she's speaking live at the women's event. >> she's speaking live, driving headlines with whatever she's saying, absurd things she's saying, 70% tax on people making over a million dollars. it's know the going to pass through house and senate. it's impossible. neil: i wouldn't dismiss her out of hand. i think she's a force-- . >> because she drives the headlines. she drives headlines and certainly gets her twitter followers to emote about whatever she's saying. at the end of the day she doesn't know economic policy. she doesn't know how to steer this and it's great that she's a freshman congress woman, but-- >> but dismiss at your peril. i think a lot of people don't realize that whether-- she can't run for president now, she's too young.

>> wants to change the constitution. neil: those who are are going to have 0 read from her-- >> the democratic party understands that. she's a star and the democratic party wants star so they're going to use her, but i don't think they're going to allow her to have a real input. she's going to be on the financial services committee that maxine waters is going to chair. remember, maxine waters her husband worked for a bank that got a bailout. the banking community, even though she's a democrat and talks left, she acts in terms of congressional acting as a friend of the banks. she was part of the bailout of the banking system in 2009 and her husband's bank received one of those bailouts. so even though ocasio-cortez is on her committee and have influence and they're going to broadcast her as a rising star, i don't think she will have influence that will really concern the banking community. neil: what do you think? >> i think what we're going to see from this committee is a lot of noise. >> exactly. >> no question about it. maxine waters is not going to

take a back seat to ocasio-cortez, that's not going to happen. these two are going to be battling back and forth for the headlines. the interesting part, they really can't get that much done, however, they're going to cause a lot of indigestion in the big banks without any question, right? because they do have subpoena power. so we can't dismiss-- >> very true. >> we can't dismiss the committee because they have the power to bring people in and grill them. >> i'm not dismissing the committee. i'm dismissing na ocasio-cortez has that power and with the-- >> and it might be a lark to get to that, and we'll get to it a second to pay the advertised top rate. but that aside, we do know that the house budget committee chief coming in, he does want to raise corporate taxes from 21 to 28% so the direction in the house at least is higher tax, right?

>> sure, but when we talk about a higher corporate tax rate, that's higher than a higher personal tax rate on wealthy people. neil: right. >> the end of the day when you have-- we're talking about, this committee is also about the deregulation and really coming in on the deregulation and having more regulation coming in there. they don't like the fact that president trump went in there and tried to deregulate all of these antiquated tax codes. so, that was another point that ocasio-cortez was trying to make to go back to regulation. that doesn't make sense. when we have deregulation, the economy moves forward and it's something it if they actually knew what they were talking about, they wouldn't be saying these kind of things. >> let's get real. when there was a 90% tax bracket, highest marginal tax was 90%. she's always mentioning, oh, the eisenhower years a 90% tax rate and things looked pretty good. the top 1% was paying 30% of their income in taxes.

there were so many deductions, so 90% tax back then was actually 30% when they took the deductions. neil: why did we bother lowering it? >> that's exactly the point that jfk made. he said-- 'cause he was a great supply side tax cutter. neil: he wanted from 90 plus to 70% and came into effect after he died. >> and he said the more we lower tax rates, the larger the income for the government will actually be and he was exactly right. the same argument that ronald reagan made. so ocasio-cortez, please look at the numbers. when there was a 90% tax rate the top 1% were paying 30%. neil: i think it's the message that rich people like yourself have gotten away with murder and-- >> i don't know if i can agree with regard to me. neil: it will help. >> it's what people like to hear and she's appealing to the

masses. she's a populist and-- nothing is going to get done. neil: and it's in another party's control, the white house. whatever comes out of the house dies in the senate, right? >> yes, it's all about in my mind 2020. let's see how we can get our bases riled up and we have to take out trump. neil: that's a good point. settings up the issues that are going to be-- >> it's all about galvanizing your base and these things are going to appeal to the democratic base which we see is shifting left. neil: i want to thank you very, very much. we hear that the president is going to address folks about the border and shutdown, and it's pushed back an hour, i don't know what that means, but it's pushed back from 3:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. for what's next. i like that. get a plan that's right for you. td ameritrade. ♪

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and we've gnan heyworth, and noel, and in your gut what would you think we'll hear? >> we never know with trump. when he originally was going to have a conference on the shutdown, i thought he would declare an emergency and fund a wall. neil: what keeps holding him back? >> i think that maybe one of his strategies is the fact that he let this play out for democrats. i think that he let them, you know, kind of played this out to where they were not going to compromise and weren't going to do anything that had the word wall attached to it. so maybe now he's going to say at the end of this i am i'm giving x amount, the shutdown has gone on too long, a bad price to pay for our workers and forced me, my back's against the wall and going to have to declare an emergency. i just can't imagine what he's going to be saying to let us know where we are on the shutdown. we all know where we are. neil: what do you think?

>> i'm a big believer in keeping hope hey life and it's clear that the american people are ready for us to go back to work. so it would be nice if he came out acted presidential and ended the shutdown and it's time for a comprehensive look for immigration. we have 11 million people undocumented and we have to find a path to citizenship. if you look at the new york post, the wall is clearly not the answer. neil: and one of the ideas being bandied about, you get comprehensive immigration-- and the other side has been whether it's the democrat who voted for wall funding when barack obama was president or republicans open to some sort of daca reform and do both sides need to jump off the cliff together? >> yes, ideally both sides should jump off the cliff together. neil: how many americans would welcome that? >> yes.

neil: goodbye! >> i'm not wishing any particular individual to jump off. no, i think if the president would show enormous leadership and he does have an opportunity on daca, because what held back daca in many ways in the previous house of representatives was that there was a significant minority, about three dozen or so republicans from districts that simply wouldn't accept. neil: wouldn't budge. >> right. amnesty of any form. that's gone now and you have a democratic majority in the house so there's an opportunity for the president to say, look, we need to get this done. clearly the democrats have supported funding for physical barriers and acknowledge this. neil: i don't think that either side would envision that tsa would be in this predicaments and people have to get to the airport three hours early. it's grown out of control, right? >> and it starts with doing business when you're holding a gun to the other party's head. you saw what this shutdown, it leaves people nowhere to go. that's not how you run

government. >> but i think that trump has more to lose than anything else because he won his-- in his primary he won against a lot of individuals on immigration, on build that wall and so if he caves, he has a lot to lose with his base, versus democrats. neil: whatever you want to call it, i mean, couldn't you make the argument that some democrats would be opposed to that because at least the government shutdown ends and he looks like a statesman and they don't want to give him that either. >> the one thing that separates campaigning from governing, you can't just always dig your heels in and say i promised this to my base and i need this without sausage making and to noel's point he has more to lose. neil: do you think that nancy pelosi overplayed her hand on this? >> i do think that nobody in this country thinks this is the best elected officials had. neil: because announcing, while it's still on the side of

blaming republicans for this, it's almost getting to be a pox on both your houses, we hate both you guys. >> which is why we have to start with let's end the shutdown and lock ourselves in a room and comprehensive review on immigration. >> i don't think that the president is going to stopping the shutdown or ending the shutdown without making within further case for funding the physical barriers. neil: is either side realistic going to bend when their bases are so adamant? >> or should they bend? >> they're both recognizing public pressure. they're both recognizing public opinion and nancy pelosi's risk is that she's starting to look like the same old nancy pelosi that in good couple of dozen democratic districts. neil: i've heard a lot of republicans saying looking the markets continuing to dance through this. the greater scheme of things, it's not affecting america. >> it feels like after today, the myth of this crisis on our southern border as opposed to a comprehensive look is out of the

bad. >> of course, we have another caravan coming. >> and nobody is hiding under their desks. >> somebody should come together, we have immigration that we need to have reformed and we have workers that need to go back to work. my god, we've got, come on! >> i want to see the president say let's get together and-- . >> you can't talk about the c e caravan coming. >> come on, it's disingenuous. neil: it's coming! >> peace and love! we have a lot more coming up, including the approaching super bowl. we'll know by the end of the weekend who is going to go there. and no namath knows what it's like and he can actually pick the ultimate winner, the man who did the impossible in 1969 is op with us today. could help you save on homeowners insurance.

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an escape. as a fan and as a player. i think there are a lot of things going on in society that need attention. i always felt that the world of football was somewhat safe from that, but we found out it's not. neil: let me ask you about the dust-up over the national anthem, whether you should stand or kneel or what do you think? . right, it used to be a sporting event. we want to see who wins and loses. we don't want to see who is standing and who is kneeling. i mean, everybody been standing for a long time and now there's controversy you've got people who want to kneel. it shouldn't be about who wants to stand and who wants to kneel, it should be about the sport and not a big political thing. this is america and outside of the workplace we should continue to protest what we don't think is right. neil: who was the last guy? >> i think his name is joe namath and did something in 1969 with the new york jets.

anyway, he joins us on the phone right now. joe, good to have you. >> thank you, neil. it's good to talk with you and visit with you again. neil: all the time, my friend, thank you. it's interesting, joe, when you and i last talked, we talked about the controversies over kneeling and not kneeling and players should be free to do what you want. i don't know if it's still happening or not as many p doing it or not as much coverage. it's working. the viewership of nfl is up over last season when it was in a double-digit tumult. what happened? >> i believe the league and television changed some things. the flex schedule that they use now. what happened besides that, the teams have scored and the audiences are bigger, the time slots for big games are at night and it's a different game and

it's more exciting to me. neil: you know, we were talking at the break the last time knowing that i was going to be talking to you, joe, and they were remembering just what an underdog you and the new york jets were in 1969. i think no one had you picked to even remotely even challenge the baltimore colts at the time. but you obviously had a different view, but you didn't look like you felt the pressure. is that key for all the teams right now, the final four right now, as they go in to decide this weekend who will be appearing in the super bowl. just keep your cool? . well, that's a major factor and i promise you, neil, looks are deceiving from time to time. there was some nervous energy running through the body, adrenalin going, and the first few snaps of our championship game, i was a little quicker than i'd like to have been with decision making and the physical part of it. i think that the match-up now

and these two games coming up, you've got two trigger men at the quarterback position in brees and brady, they've been around a good while now. is mahomes and goff going to be cool cucumbers to start with? i don't know about that. i don't expect that, but the adrenalin and the urgency can get in the way, even though you need the urgency. neil: you know, joe, a lot of people are saying for the super bowl itself it could be affected by this government shutdown in terms of the security and personnel that could be committed to go to the game or whatever. i didn't understand that, but i know it was a different time and era when you were playing, but that kind of scares you, if you think about it, doesn't it? >> yes, it does. it does scare me. but it is necessary because of what's transpired over these recent years. certainly even going back to our 9/11, god bless all the folks

who have endured and those that we lost, but the security is necessary, whether there's a government shutdown-- i mean, the shutdown, hey, neil, i don't think any of us want to see this continue. this is outrageous, but, in the meantime, it is what it is. neil: all right. tom brady, you know, he's actually the underdog i guess, the patriots are against kansas city. is that dangerous to make him the underdog? what do you think? >> well, we're talking purely the betting line because brady doesn't feel like an underdog, you can count on that. i mean, the players on the field, as big and huge underdog point-wise that our team was, most of us, if not 100% of us felt like we not only could win the game, but we were going to win the game. a lot of the guys, every one of the players in this, these two games coming up have been

through a great deal of football in their lives. neil: absolutely. >> and just to be the opportunity where they are and where they can go, point spreads don't make a little bit of difference to these guys on the field. neil: you're right. joe, thank you for some great memories, great football, and an eye i can figure, joe namath, good seeing you-- hearing you again. what we've learned doing this show besides just working on saturdays after this. ts tailos portfolios to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management.

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developing news and why we're interrupted we might as well interrupt ourselves. we spoke to a lot of news makers and often made news along the way. take a look. >> you feel that the president's onto something, here, right? >> absolutely. i agree 100% with what the president is trying to do with all things related to border securi security. >> a year ago today nearly every democrat voted for my bill to fully authorize ice into law for the first time ever, including nancy pelosi, including the democrat who introduced the bill to abolish ice. >> mitt romney is whip-smart. he's a good guy. he's enormously talented, but for the millions and millions of americans who are better off today than they were two years

ago, his op-ed piece, his behavior was about as popular as head lice. >> we also as democrats have to be honest with ourselves, there are a lot of people out there who feel very disconnected and the opportunity was farther and farther out of reach. people who voted for barack obama and then voted for trump. neil: you've become increasingly the butt of stephen colbert and the butt of jokes. >> it says devin nunes is-- and then it's redacted. we're not allowed to release that. cbs won't let me say it on air. >> i think this should be released. do you have any guesses what it might say under there? >> californian? public servant? former dairy farmer? >> former dairy farmer? >> yeah. >> really?

because he seems to be milking it right now. neil: what did you think of that? did he make any effort to come to you to talk to you? >> yeah, well, i think this is the danger that we have in this country. this is an example of it. so the left controls not only the universities in this country, but they also control hollywood in this country. >> if he's proven to have not told the whole truth about the fact that campaigns look for dirt and if someone offers it, you listen to them, nobody's going to be surprised. there are some things in politics that you just take for grant granted. >> i think if there's a scintilla of evidence that the president colluded with the russians and he had that evidence the entire world would already know. >> there have been rumors circulating that you're considering a presidential run in 2020. is that true? >> i'm focusing on the next few

weeks ahead of us and doing my best to continue to serve hawaii and our country and hopefully get a lot more like-minded leaders who are fighting for the interests of the people of our country first and foremost. neil: you're think, around 37 years old. do you think that's too young to run for president? >> no. neil: okay. here we go. have had a nice day. we're going to keep doing it. and we're going to keep doing it. we get democrats with republicans, we get bulls with bears. we make news with each and all. i know a lot of people will say i'm a never-trumper or an always-trumper or in the republicans hip pocket or the democrats hip pocket. there's no agenda here, it's just fair and balanced news coverage the way you would want it for two hours and we're going to keep doing it. it's easy for me to take a bow for that, but there's an incredible staff behind me that

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>> thousands of feminist activists turning out, chicago, denver there, and david spunt on the mall in d.c. hi, david. >> yeah, hey, and a few major groups actually pulled out support from this event, but still, a big turnout today. >> the partial government shutdown enters an unprecedented fifth week. president trump set to make what he's calling a major announcement this afternoon, quote, concerning the humanitarian cries cities on our southern border and