saturday january 19th. i'm scott thanks for specking part of your day with us. life, liberty and levin is up next. ♪ >> well, america i'm mark levine life, liberty enlevin i have a great guest. dr. paul -- great, great thank you. >> we're going to discuss russia collusion soviet collusion democrat style never discussed so -- you are a professor political science at grove city college. you are the executive director of the center for vision and values. you've been a gross city for 20 years which is one of our finest colleges. >> thank you. you've written a lot a about the cold war. you've gone through some of the

original documents that have become available since end of the cold war i consider you if not g the expert one of the top experts on what took place during the cold war and -- why to i want to discuss this tonight? i'll tell you why. because one of the things that you address and you focus on is the extent to which, ted kennedy lion of the senate kennedy family -- that ted kennedy was colluding with, conspiring with -- working with the kremlin to defeat reelection of president ronald reagan this is never discussed. on national television. russia keeps coming up. there's no context for what's taking place today. what exactly happened with ted kennedy and russia and the kremlin? >> well the date was the date of the document may 14th, 1983. >> what document. a document that was found in the central committee archive of the soviet union.

and that would have been when had they first started opening the archives when boris became president after he resigned in late 1921 and document was found, it was the committee on states security of ussr across the tape which is kgb and one was writing to the head of the soviet union. so right here okay you have a document with the two top people in the ussr, head of the kgb to head of the soviet union. and the subject has -- says a special importance regarding senator kennedy's request to general secretary. so right there if that doesn't grab your attention i don't know what does. and it says in the first paragraph that on 9/10 of this year 1983 that a kennedy confidant john the california

democratic senator he wasn't senator at that point but he was -- >> best friends with kennedy old boss school classmate, and they said that he was there on behalf of senator kennedy making a request to the soviets so he went to kremlin. >> i don't know if he went to kremlin but he was in moscow on behalf of ted kennedy now brch i continue within the document this was found in the archives 1991, 1992, it was first reported by the london times and february 2nd, 1992 and i assume the american media picked up on it. the news networks ran with it. budding cable networks ran with it. am i right? >> absolutely they can did it not. they didn't did a single thing with with it. so -- so first of all it's sebastian was reporter for london times also worked for bbc. you know no right winger london times and he reported on it.

and in the london times just a little bit tiny bit didn't report show the whole document or anything. there was a kind of a rush on the archives by different researchers who were there at the time to try to get a copy of the document. it was finally given to me when i was doing research on a book on ronald reagan -- >> what year would that be? >> crusader ronald reagan and fall of -- published by harp hadder collins so again this is a -- mainstream highly respected press.20 when i was told about the 2005 and 2004 said doese it republican say this when you're saying this, yeah it is worse wait until you read it. i got it, i put publish it in appendix the book. >>t. what does it say? >> so the document said that senator kennedy like other rational people using word rational people is very troubled by the state of u.s. soviet relations.

that deterioration in u.s. soviet relations. and it blames this deterioration not on the kremlin but on reagan belligerence actually uses word reagan belligerence, and it says that this is due to reagan's refusal to engage in modification to his politics or policies. so -- kennedy and the document and the document at least framing of kennedy offer blaming deterioration in u.s. soviet relation on t rouged reagan. >> so soviet or kennedy or all of them are blaming them? >> this would be defense later of the kennedy people as you know, well that's their interpretation of this. but according to he's couching this and language of this is kennedy's interpretation. >> kennedy approached them. kennedy approached them through john to and who later comment on

this in london times article in february 199 dismissed it like owing -- you know, not what people are trying to make of it. when. my first book in 2006 only media source in the country that touched it was you're from philadelphia.ce cn8 which is like a regional cable news outlet, i did that show and they actually called kennedy's office and they said -- what's your response to? with this professor's reporting in this book -- and they argued with the interpretation of the document. but what did kennedy want to do? >> well, it was couched within the context of the 1984 presidential election. which was just -- just around the corners this was 1983n spring so they're communicating kennedy is through tunny in 19 83 right before reagan up for reelection.

campaign is up democrats are jeaning up kennedy makes contact with kremlin through tunly what does he want to do with the kremlin? >> so he offers -- he believes according to the document right kennedy believes this is fallout of reagan and not apparently fault but the soviet union, in fact, even uses the word ken cannedy is very impressed but of all people right the soviet dig day or tore. so with the election coming up and it is fascinating mark there's a paragraph in here with basically kennedy and soviets agreeing that reagan is working. [laughter] inflation is down unemployment is great everything, so only time you'll ever see them acknowledge that reagan is actually working. and that being the case, is there any vulnerability?

yes it is a question of war and peace. the missiles the nuclear freeze movement, so kennedy offer as to the soviets to help them communicate to the american voters and american public their peaceful intentions as he proceeds. >> so kennedy is prepared in essence to be a pr surrogate? to moscow. >> i think that's a fair way to put it. and in order to help them communicate better with the united states. and it says kennedy recommends that the following steps be taken and i would encourage people to actually read the document to the book so they could -- so they could read it word for word. but the steps qowb that first of all kennedy would go to moscow and be with ann. he was help arrange for soviet political military officials to come to the united states. to directly talk to american public to offer to set up interviews between soviet

officials and american journalist and specifically named in the document are walter qur'an cite and barbara walter so they're specifically mentioned in there. so they would come to the united states that way they could go unfiltered directly to the american public communicate theirth beliefs. kennedy could goo over there to meet with ann and the document ends with saying i shall await instruction. this is the offer that is being made. and final paragraph -- ends by talking about kennedy's own presidential prospect. and whether or not he was run in 1984 and definitely looking to run in 1988. so its is all couched within te context of the presidential election. >> let's -- let's unravel someed of this. we have contact. we have offer.

from kennedy, we have an effort to effect upcoming reelection of ronald reagan in other words really to defeat reagan. and offered to get kremlin and their propaganda and general and so forth on american television rate in other words on american media by a top democrat senator. >> very top ted kennedy. 1980 charging jimmy carter for democratic primary. >> bring this to today -- can you imagine if donald trump or donald trump's camp had done one tenth of one percent of this? >> and -- and there's a smoky gun there's actual document. >> more than a smoking gun but a nuclear blast here. >> and the document is couched within policies foreign policy. nuclear policies, military national security, 1984 presidential election. and it is written by head of the

kgb too the head of the government. soviet union and this will be like having a document by the current head of the -- russian fssb or gru directly are to putin to say here's an offer that is being made by senators so and so on behalf of your donald trump or whoever. and a all laid out right there and -- >> instead professor we're left with there was a meeting with donald jr. and some others and nothing actually took place. or now we read in newspaper that -- perhaps manafort shared polling information with somebody or something like that. we have caused for impeachment with calls for indictment we have all kinds of calls this is the same media the same media that had completely ignored what you've discoveredia what you've written about. what others have discovered original documentation and if we had a prosecutor at that time a special prosecutor at that time who was of a mindset, with to

case like this, look what they would have. >> yeah. and -- so it gets even worse we with reported first in 2006 where we published in the appendix of the book, the actual translation which comes out to about two and a half pages and 2010 they did a book called they said this and published entire document in russia. which is about five pages in russian, and then follow with the english translation, hope hoing maybe this time they would pay attention. >> i want to pick it up right there right will when we return because this is too important to speed through. ladies and gentlemen, don't forget most weeknights you can watch me on levin tv on our brand new network go to blaze tv.com,/and give us a call toll free number 844 levin tv we would love to have you.

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would say this was treason. whatever, what happened? >> well that's the real scandal is wef don't even know what happened. because, because no one even asked kennedy about it. no one reported on it. there weren't any articles in "new york times" washington post, boston globe anything no report on it. reveals in 1992 and then -- and then so the krennology now think about this. kennedy died in 2009. 17 years between 90 and 2009, my book came out in 2006, and it was there, and as i said a cn8 but cn8 reporter talked about it and issued a sentence argument aing with interpretation of the document. >> but this document that's mentioned by the the london times and bbc, document is out there published by a major publisher. congress doesn't hold a single hearing.

>> right. right congress is not interested. by the way imagine my relief when kennedy people we contacted kennedy i thought here it comes. here it comes they're going to say it is a forgery doesn't he know stupid professor they didn't say that. they didn't deny it. they didn't deny it documents are real but it begs question. okay, what happened next? did kennedy go to moscow? what was the next step? and h frankly here's really what happened. dropoff got very sick, in fact, kennedy was very impressed with cal 007 the people who died in korean airline shot down by soviet in september 1983 reagan even wrote in his diary, word is that he's very sick. right now so he would be dead within a year. of this offer, so maybe that happened because he got sick they drop the bomb and didn't

follow but just having a general interest in media would have at least called kennedy at least by 1992 after to find out what happened. chuck schumer is elected to congress. i believe in 1981 who was born a member of congress. nancy pelosi is elected to congress during this by memory i believe 1987. well they were -- right still alive. you have the house intelligence committee. you have the senate intelligence committee. you have the foreign affairs committees. they didn't want to investigate one of their own people did they? they didn't want to know about ted kennedy did they? >> they didn't and i had one liberal who said to me but look doing this in theo me but look interest of peace he's worried about cold war. nucleararm deaden you know he's trying to do what he can. he's worried about reagan. this is justified. and i said well, i don't know if that's his motivation or not. no one is asked him about it.

right? are there any political motivations in those just at least ask. and find out but maybe at some point they would have went but even if there are no political -- >> yes. s aspects to this. what he did is -- abomination. it went around, he's sitting president of the united states, heen conspired with the kgb, and the soviet government, at the time people need to understand he had a cold war beginning on we were confronting soviets all over the world. >> i'll tell you how hot it was may 1983, march '83 reagan done evil empire speech. he did the fbi speech. 75 went public about that time. i asked -- >> what is that? >> that was national security decision directive '75 which was one of the most important documents aimed at taking down and defeating soviet communism winning cold war now reagan closest national security

advisor bill clark you know bill clark and i -- >> one of reagan closest friends. >>confidant he was like a grandfather to me i became his biographer i asked him about this. i said were you aware of what kennedy wases doing at the time? he said you know, paul, we had had heard things about we had this. butt i didn't know any information and a at this point mark it would have been 2005 having that kftion request clark he said i can't help you i can't remember. but, but the point here is clark who was reagan right hand man, he didn't know what kennedy was doing. it's not like they cleared it with reagan white house or nfc but we want to let you know that senator kennedy is going to be reaching out to soviet he wantses to make contact. but this is to me -- professor -- why i considered this so important is it is called content. you have overwhelming evidence

of a senior senator who wants to be president of the united states at some point or may have wanted to. of a very important political family. has enormous influence in the united states senate and with the media and with other organizations. he's up to his eyeballs in colluding not with the russians but with the soviets. we have a president of the united states today we've had had investigation for or two years thousands of so-called journalist and others trying to pin on him some collusion with the russians. something. which was a -- sort of propaganda started by hillary clinton pushed by schumer with a criminal investigation. constant talk about about impeachment about constant talk about indictments and nothing. sitting back waiting for a special prosecutor to tell us now if i could prosecute president these are things that i would do and then they want to -- you know, put the eye word on his forehead impeach the and still ahead, when had it comes

to kennedy, absolute self-censorship in media and congress doesn't want to know anything. >> we pitched everybody in media you know how this works for books i'm not making this up i carry that document around with me in my brief case and i had a couple of friends grill me and play the role of -- who was the "60 minutes" reporter leslie i pictured myself just getting, you know, nailed right asking all of these questions i didn't have to worry about it. they never called. they're busy with cortez -- [laughter] when we come back, i want to explore: his who was he and whs he important and his role in american history. we'll be right back. ♪

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sowf union hasn't changed acronym kgb went in and out. whitaker chambers reversed course he became a communist at columbia university in the probability i guess -- [inaudible conversations] and that would have been around 1920s, and a writing for mass es of the mainstream and so why did he reverse course? >> he eventually came to see the rotten stench of the exactly what it was. what the soviets were doing, like, like a lot of americans, he was horrified by hitler stallen pack. the idea you know, which especially shocked american communist who were jewish. the idea that stalin would work with hitler to sign a nonaggression pack august 23rd, 1939 where they agreed they wouldn't go to war with one

another but agreed that they would -- they would mutually invade poland happen haded one week later september first, 1939 nazis invaded poland started world war ii everybody forgets september 17th, 1939, the soviet wheres invaded poland from the east, and so american communist to learn that most of them hated hitler and so to see their boy stalin and they swore a loyalty oath stalin soviet union. >> so chambers flips he becomes conservative in many respects libertarian. >> right. he starts writing for later for national review. he's -- taken under the wing of richard nixon and others trying to get to the alger hiss matter. went to, quote, ensure triumph of soviet power in the united states which was the exact oath that cpusa communist members swore in the 1930s including almost every member of the hollywood ten.

and i digress. >> let's stay focused on alger hiss so tell us more about hiss. so -- >> so chambers eventually left thee party and he told members f congress this is a cliff notes version by far i'm summarizing with a lot of information. but he said that among the people whod were the worst contact within the united states government was a guy he worked for the state department named alger hiss.s. and what he eventually accused hiss of doing and this appears to be what hiss indeed did his would leave his state department office late in the evening. and he would take papers with him. these are classified documents and weren't supposed to even leave the office. he wouldat take them home to his wife priscilla who at night with a typewriter would retype these documents very bait m and in morning he would bringrb papers back now chambers said that he was the carrier of those documents from alger hiss to a

soviet agent by name of bicov to give you an answer how this was chamber estimated that at least 52 times he acted as carrier of hiss documents to the soviets. >> so he was a sowf soviet spy but more than statehe department butie advisor, the franklin roosevelt. he was and he was -- he was advise aing franklin roosevelt w how to negotiate wih stalin and soviets while he was a spy. for the soviets and his role which liberals have tried to down play for decades was much more substantive than people realized, in fact, great book by late sam evans called stalin secret agents they have a chapter in there called ghost ship at yalta where hiss is in many ways the front man at of things it was february 19 -- started dividing up europe if

you want to know where cold war began and tag a date take that week february 4th to 11th, 1945 it was really the cold war begun and ulta where stalin would lie and break all of the promises in assurance he gave to fdr. he was told over by advisors not to. trust them listen to hiss. >>ta fdr generally trusted staln he really did franklin roosevelt was he ever held to account for what took place in oval office? >> oh, no. i'll ask you more about this when we return doapght forget folks you can join us most weeks on evin tv go to the website levin tv and give us a call right now at 844-levin tv at 844-levin tv we'll be right back. means making tough choices. jim! you're in! but when you have high blood pressure and need cold medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. coricidin hbp is the #1 brand

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american national security leading right into oval office. right into the president's confidence -- president you said it confidence alger hiss but when this calm out was it some time l after the fdr administration truman administration when did this start to cool out? >> well so that hiss chamber trial t was 1948. so atri that time fdr had been deadad for three years hiss convicted of perjury but trial ander accusations about him must have been before the trial. yeah. and absolutely. a lot that taken place behind closed doors as well by when fdr was president was there question near the end of his presidency? fdr was warned throughout 1930s and martin dies who was -- the head of the committee texas democrat which you know

eventually leded into if not became the house committee then american activities he talks in his memoirs about i think it was the 1940 meeting if i get some of these dates wrong shameless plug for my book but in book dupes so 1940 that he met with fdr and tried to warn him of the penetration of his administration commerce department, agricultural department, throughout all levels of government. but this is all dismissed today as red scare. >> fdr said you said mr. congressman you see a bugaboo under every bed been but there was a bugaboo his name was alger hiss. among others, harry dexter white curry, leeman guys that work on wallace campaign many 1948. and a lot of these guys too that was a important point if they weren't soviet agents a lot of them were agents of influence or they were --

they were duped which meant they were kind of soft liberals who tonight really realize they were being but probably case of harry hopkins probably case off harry henrypr wallace a lot of times worse damage is caused not by a guy who is direct ily working as a undercover agent feeding information to other side but guys who are clueless. >> and investigative journalist? >> well they were or worshiping fdr, i mean if they could have -- if there would be a progressive mount rushmore fdr would be first up there.re every ranking by presidential historian of the greatest president of all tile he's in the top three. it's alwaysid lincoln washingto, and top two fdr number three, and on this point fdr within the last few weeks of his life so in february 11th, 1945 he died april of '45 he told --

anna rosenburg, bill lei a number of people he said avril was right we can't trust. always breaking always breaking all of his promises. >> churchill told him, and worst quote from fdr was where he said this. i believe that if i give stalin everything he asks for and ask nothing from him in return, he use word, then he will work with me to advance world democrats and peace. stalin will not try to an exanything and work with me for a world of democracy and peace fdr was not a communist. but he did not understand that communist threat he thought threat was bashes and nazi ises which is true. but he had a total blind eye to the communist -- because he was a leaning progressive. that's right. which is -- really a the progeny of -- of my view marxism and all of

the other. eleanor is on this had. and so here we have -- kennedy h undermining reagan toh on the soviet -- we have fdr with hiss and others. and really -- we can say he was naive that's the best spin when you're president you're told all of the time you check the this guy, this guy you can't trust stalin it is more than naive in my view but here's my point so today the democrat party claims to be the party that challenge as russia. [laughter] >> right. right, right. does democrat party the party that challenges russia are they only or are are they only really getting into this it russia thing because they think it is a way to get rid of trump? >> that's what it is. i mean they're suddenly now russia are hop -- right, you know they're suddenly look out they're the new joe mccarthy. right they're not looking for a bugaboo and under any -- >> e e-mail any text --

>> everything it is amazing. right the slightest whatever -- they're all over it and they've got like an investigative arm there be a major newspaper looking under every rock. >> we have a criminal investigation. with a special counsel with no information of any quote unquote collusion available to anybody on the russians. cnn doesn't have any. msnbc doesn't have any. the the holocaust denying "new york times" doesn't the have any. "the washington post" doesn't have any. and the criminal investigation goes on -- and we look at this in context, with what was done against the reagan administration democrat when you lock at what was done in fdr administration by spies including democrats, working were the soviets i'm sorry this is the history. and then what they're doing turning country upside down if there's a meeting if there's an e-mail if there's a text and

something, it is impeachable offense, it is real absolute media insanity. >> i had a a liberal friend who e-mailed me about six or seven months ago wanting my help on this stuff. i'm like where have you guy been right man now all of a sudden you hate the russians of all things, and he wanted to know too. he said, isn't this the worst threat in the world right now putin -- and they've gone from being lam to wolves on this -- on this -- when they take back the white house one of these days they'll go back to being lambs. we'll be right back.

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>> i have to ask you this, professor, the media and the group think 1930s and 40s they really let us down. as far as i'm concerned -- and it's not only this, and we're not going to get into this today but books written about howks big media basically down play the holocaust. is that a progressive mindset and foror a whole bunch of reasons.f you look at that period then you look at the reagan period where he was taking on soviet union and he knew what he he want to o and he wanted to defeat them and they were pushing investigations and they pushed rank and they

wanteded to take him out too. and the media was part of that course. the media today which clearly from dayay one of wanted to take out this president and they're on it every day. they give a prespeech analysis, the other day gives a speech about about the border and the budget.si and then they give a post speech analysis now they fact check. in order to conceal i believe, their ideology is that the problem? is that the problem? have the needy become devoured by progressive movement the way hollywood has the way academia has for most part and democrat has with progressive movement at this point? >> i think they're driven by their had biases. and they deny that, but i mean just look at cnn it is just 24/7 trump, trump, trump. a friend t of mine in the media says that cnn is treating presidency like a natural disaster like a hurricane and all negative news all of the time you can't go there for news that much. >> but it is the tone.

you actually have people comparing him to adolf hitler to joseph stalin as white stalin and children and grandchildren, they call him a liar. you look at msnbc day in and day out cnn does exactly same thing they debate whether or not she should be able as president of the united states to give a speech to the nation. on our networks because he can't be trusted he's a liar. i'm afraid that the media have turned a corner around which they'll never return. that is that they're so ideologically driven and in one direction. that it has become a basically a party mouthpiece to democrat party. >> well i think it has been for a long time. and in fact, i can see a liberal watching this show saying, no, no it is because trump is uniquely bad. no, no, you guys did this to bush, you did it to both bushes maxine waters called bush a

racist in 1992 and he said no i'm not apologizing for it i said he's a racist and horrible things about reagan unbelievable things they said about reagan. and reagan ink the 1980s didn't have -- he didn't have fox or the internet. he didn't have conservative talk radio. i mean basically it was abc, cbs controlled by democrat. to overscore your point barry goldte water you have that publication called fact you have 11 some odd psychiatrics who commented on him basically saying that he was mentally unhinged mentally ill. then you have the gold water resume put in place by association for whatever for whatever. they broke the rule this time with trump. again, they drag on some psychiatrist and psychologist who claim he's members of the jurily unhinged let's talk about the 25th amendment. they don't do this sort of thing with obama.th they don't do this sort of thing with hillary clinton. they don't do this sort of thing with harry truman john kennedy and so forth.

that's why i think when we talk about freedom of the press, about it's time that we the people really start talking about it. because freely press exist for us. it doesn't exist for time warner, it doesn't exist for comcast that owns these -- the point f of freedom for the press freedom of the speech, first amendment of the constitution is for the people. you think the people are being served by media today? >> no, i don't. and it's it shall it's why you need a push and for even more different types of media why people need to go to sources like this. like your show, and i think it is why conservatives need to use media platform social media, and again, with ray begun and 80s what did reagan have mark review of americane mark spectator of human events that was it. right i don't know if washington times had had started up -- you know what as you all know who massive electoral landslide and second time around even though kennedy conspiring against him. which was amazing thing.

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with the north vietnam communist delegation before the peace negotiations, official peace official peace negotiations, maybe there's a reason why the media in this countryne never provide context for the the reports you've got millennials out there who probably don't know anything that we're talking about probably aren't taught it in college and so forth.ght it so they want you to believe that this russia collusion thing and so forth s and so on is one off and that it exist and this e-mail means everything and this text means everything this meeting means everything am i wrong?fo nonches, no, and the fact that "new york timeses" reporting cuba is herr about matthew who did infamous reporting 1957 i think it was even shay that said when the world gave us up for dead, it was the matthews arlg article in the new york times that resurrected us it was very true and john kerry after that meeting he would also go and he would testify before the senate foreign relations committee about our troops committing war crimes in vietnam. reminisce isn't a in fashion of

conas they put it. khan -- that's right. it was the great estrogen side dal maniac earth has ever known and cut 11% of the world population. that's awful that he would say that, of course, that came back to bite him in 2004 with the swiss -- >> still nominated. so that's exactly. he was the democratic nominee, and in 2004, so not only did they really not complain about about that much on their side but allowed to go point to become a junior senator for massachusetts under ted kennedy senior smart and got the nomination in 2004. so --r the media the liberal media has incredible ability to ignore the glacier right, and focus on something else or look under every rock or bugaboo under eve bed when had it comes to somebody like donald trump it all depends on whether it effects their guy or their guy in the office or if it is their guy not in the office.

all right been a great pleasure. >> thank you. thank you. we appreciatee it. appreciate you. >> don't forget join us next time on life, liberty and levin. jesse: welcome to. "watters' world." i'm jesse watters. president trump pitching a new deal to get to end the government shutdown and get his border wall. he held a citizenship ceremony before the announcement. president trump: technology to help sciewsh or ports of entry. an additional