next time we will talk about teaching our children to love america. don't miss that. join us next sunday when the next revolution will be televised. hello america, this is life liberty and live-in. it's a pleasure. we've met in the past. now we get to talk to each other. i would tell you why i wanted to hear. you fascinate me. you're a great athlete. i'm from philadelphia. you played for the diamondbacks in boston, a tremendous record. and also your outspoken

conservative. in 1993 you pitched for the phillies. they lost. then the boston red sox championships, 11 into postseason record that is the greatest post season record for someone who has pitched ten or more and 8.6 winning percentage. i'm doing this for a reason. you have the major league record when it comes to that.

you pitched past six and seven innings which isn't done very often. you're not in the hall of fame. is that because of your views? you think it's political. >> part of it is. it's not a gas. people have not voted for me because of the things i've said or did. then come out and said that to me. >> isn't that outrageous. aren't they supposed be voting on your career as a baseball player and an athlete, not your political views. >> the two words that come up are character flaws. there's a couple issues. first of all, i've now seen recently have been put in the bonds category. the character issues, this and that, i don't doubt for a second that he cheated.

they are equating me and something they think i've done or said with guys who willingly, lance armstrong destroyed other people's lives. we are on the same moral turf somehow. my dad told me don't ever live your life trying to please people you don't know. i've lived that. you can look at 22 years of my career and i've never had an incident with a teammate. not a serious incident, every day you have fans, your clubhouse guys,. >> isn't this what they do to conservatives, generally. >> with the president of the united states before he decided to run, before he was president of the united states, the liberals loved him, the media loved him. hollywood loved him and he

couldn't say enough good things about him. they took his money intonation and they made money off his program. all was well and good. then he decided to run for president of the united states. next thing you know he's hitler, he's stalin, he's a thousand things they said. >> i would argue probably the same reason you have a hard time getting a liberal to sit in this chair. the second, i will converse and debate anybody. i am (i would listen to anyone that can help make me better. thirst for knowledge is the same. i will talk to anybody about anything. military is my history outside of sports. it's my passion. i have a stack of books next

to my bed. i read about a book at night. i find something i don't know and then i'll read it. the book is just someone else's interpretation of something that i can look up myself. i want different perspectives and viewpoints. especially where we are now. look at where this country is now. >> where is this country now be met as conservatives we are up against a group of people who don't have any forethought, who don't think ahead. you can't, in any realistic scenario, in the real world, play out the socialists dream and come to a conclusion that benefits the people. it's never worked anywhere. there's no example where you can say, point to scandinavia or all the other things, they don't realize that it doesn't scale. there are six or 10 million people in those countries combined. we have over 300 million people and how many tens of millions aren't even in the system. it doesn't work. and so, you look at a

generation, my kids are between 16 and 22. they are in college and they're pretty conservative. they are listening to liberal professors and they will text me and my son has one professor who says i don't want you to take what i say at face value, i want you to challenge me which is the first time i've ever heard anyone left to center say that. >> you think that country is moving in the wrong direction because of the social pressure that's in place in our schools and society and the media, even though there's a pushback, the president of the united states and other conservative. >> here's the thing. you know where we are right now. you're kind of in the eye of the storm given your influence on people on the right from those who come from the right and that means your on target. trump is gonna win 2020. there's no feasible way unless the russians and democrats get

together again and try to rig another election but he wins in 2020. they're not going to suddenly scale back. they will be up a bucket more so than they are now meant you don't think it ends well. >> it can't because the left has proven they won't let it end until they get their way. >> and that's the example on the wall. the wall is a great example. back when they were loving trump, they were also funding a wall because you can go back to the soundbites of obama and clinton and everybody sang when he does, we need border security, and also but hate it they only hated because president trump once it. >> i feel good, he's not going to given, he's not can end the shutdown until he gets his money. >> described applicable party that puts power before country because why in the world would they change their position. everyone knows it's a bad

thing for drugs and drug runners to come into the country. everybody knows we need to know what's coming into the country. they reject it because it's bad for their own clinical fortune. they have a propaganda machine. cnn and msnbc and new york time times, day in, day out. were talking about your kids, they have academia in their back pocket with tenured professors who are mostly hard-core left-wing. much like human sports, leftists in sports can do pretty much what they want. conservatives in sports have to be very careful because even the sports media is going left-wing. >> there's no better example in the last nine years, two athletes have been pretty much, tim thomas carried them and did not go to the white house. he's like walmart, he who must

not be named. he carried the bruins and he was the greatest thing ever. the patriots have refused to go to the white house. i can't live my life for those people. they're never going to like you. there's a certain part of the world who just doesn't like you for whatever reason. the reason they don't like me has to do with character and integrity and morals and ethics and honor and all the things my dad taught me to it believe. we were talking earlier, one of the most powerful lessons in my life was roger clemens pulling me aside, my dad passed away before i made my major-league debut so he never saw any of this. >> not from ground level, anyway.

but roger told me when you walk out on the field, the name on the back your jersey, that's not your name, that's your father's name, never forgot that. i left a ticket for my dad every game i ever played because i wanted an empty seat in the stadium which during the world series so he knew i never forgot about him. >> that would be a tough place to run. >> that's why chose boston over new york to play. if i went to new york and help the women, if i go to boston and help break the curse or whatever they call it, i want the challenge. it turned out to be partially a great thing. i got what i asked for. >> when you look at what the left has done to people that they don't like, especially politicians and look at

conservatives and children are now in place for the media, my family doesn't deserve that, they spent 20 years following me around and i'm not going to subject them to that. i want to talk about that, your view of philosophy and sports, folks don't forget to join us almost every weeknight on live-in tv. you can sign up or give us a call. a lot of conservatives are there and we would like you to join us. we'll be right back.

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played sports. it was always about winners and losers competition. that is capitalism. capitalism is, i've been a victim of it to come of the studio that i opened that ended up failing after i put $50 million of my own money in it, that's what happens. it rules out the week and that's why we are where we are, but i think, i entrench my stance as a conservative when i was old enough to read and understand the constitution. i think i was 11 and. >> your far ahead of nancy pelosi. she still hasn't. >> right, but i read it and it's a pretty cool document. when you think about as we are talking earlier, foresight, the amount of foresight these men have to put this document together, knowing full well we are horribly flawed species and that somebody somewhere is going to try and do many, many bad things, it's just

mind-boggling to me that we were all that smart. we've gone through some changes, we've had to live through some of the worst things but we fought a civil war. a hundred, almost a million were killed in our conflict to eliminate slavery. we have scars of the past. that's why we are where we are. gotta tell you, i've been wanting to get in front of you for the longest time. when you talk about racist is the word everybody throwing a throwing around. if you don't agree your racist or this amount. i look at the civil war and the amendments that were passed post- civil war, what they meant and what they did. i want to know why we have civil rights movement in 1962 give minorities the right that they were given in 1870. >> i'll tell you what. it's interesting you bring this up.

those amendments had to be adopted by the state and it's often said i quote states right and it's a problem because you look at it pre-civil war. it's the states that fought the state. it was states that passed the post- civil war amendments abolishing slavery and due process on slave. there's no reference to religion, race, sex or anything, intentional. they were embracing not only the enlightenment but the logic, the logic that came from cicero who was murdered and all these people, john

locke, montesquieu, these were the great thinkers, the great minds of humanity, and only in america when they set up the government did they embrace these things. not marks who would come later, not hegel who came a little later but was somewhat contemporary, followed by the french and then they had ten years of terrorism in the french revolution, the reason there had to be a civil rights movement was because there was resistance, that word, particularly in the south and among the old democrats and the democrat party. you have to remember that as recently as 1924 the democrat convention at madison square garden in new york tried to control the convention. people don't know franklin roosevelt's first appointment to the supreme court was a member of the klan in alabama who had been a lawyer for the clan and his excuse was i didn't know.

>> ) i asked you that question because i wanted that answer, but i also, there's been, our kids are being not taught the true history of this country and i think it's damning to the education system. the kkk was born out of the end of the civil war because it was way the democrats, even though those matters were in play, we can make them fear us enough to keep them away from the polls and all the other stuff. >> the hanged people, they raped people. >> they were that terrorists at the time. the democratic party. you had people talking about the big switch, then you talk about everybody called it goldwater, they came back strong and everybody voted against civil rights and goldwater. goldwater was voting against giving the federal government more power. >> the first civil rights amendment where the post- civil war amendments.

the first will write law was proposed by eisenhower in 1956. the 64 civil rights act, the voting rights act, the vast majority of republicans voted for both. i happen to disagree with goldwater because i understood his philosophy. he had no enemies whatsoever. his was a constitutional argument. that's fine. the problem i have is that the democrat party and the mouthpieces of the media keep excusing democrats of what they were. i think they've lurched in a different direction, a radical left direction and that's a very bleak place to take the country. very dangerous. very dangerous. we'll be right back. ♪ lookin' better than a body has a right to ♪

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nancy pelosi termed the president's offer a non-starter. an oxfam report claims the world's billionaires increased their wealth last year by 2.5 billion year. n. >> were you always a republican. >> i think i was. i registered as an independent. i think to this day i'm more of an independent republican because i think socially i'm very progressive. but physically i'm not. >> socially or view.

>> i have a son on the spectrum. he is one of the greatest human beings are ever going to meet. he formed the lgbtq club in high school. as far as i know he straight. i don't know, i don't really care, but i've had kids coming into my house for eight years that are gay, transgender, making a change from boy to girl, girl the boy, i don't use pronouns around his friends because i don't get in trouble with them but. >> i use pronouns because i don't know what else to say. >> and they're the greatest kids in the world. i keep telling him, who you are dating has nothing to do with it. >> you're not a republican because of it, you republican why. >> i'm a republican because i love competition. i think it brings out the best in human beings. >> this whole notion of centralized government and redistributing wealth destroys those motivations and

principle principles. >> here's the thing. the second you say you're against obamacare, you're helping people die. i want everybody to have healthcare. let's be clear. you can't be denied healthcare. >> you can be denied health insurance but you cannot be denied healthcare. the fact of the matter is if we force people to under a single government line, then we are going to be telling people just how much money they're allowed to make every year. one has are government ever proven to us that there physically competent. >> i have this question for you. when bernie sanders talks about government and elizabeth warren talks about government, can they give us some names? who is going to run the

healthcare system? where these experts come from? they're not experts, their civil servants, some of them have seniority, do they have expert test? basically what these leftists are telling us is that people in the bureaucracy are smarter and more noble. >> is this what they been telling us. >> they been making it clear to us that were deplorable. you're just stupid rednecks and we know better than you so shut up and let us do what we do. >> with no background of success in doing anything. the government is never, the private sector has kicked the crab out of the government forever. >> are you happy with how the republicans generally conduct themselves in congress. >> no because i think most the

republicans stop representing me six or seven years ago and started running for office the day that got into office. >> is it because they don't stand for conservative huntsville, they don't fight, what is it. >> democrats, when they want something, they don't care. they will run your life, that will ruin lives and do whatever they need to do to get what they want. we've always been, excuse me, may i, please, i'm sorry in the sense that we don't want to play dirty pool because we don't believe that the way you play. when two groups are competing on a playing field and they're playing by separate rules it's not a fair game and that's exactly what happened. the republican party, the freedom caucus is more my speed, jim jordan, that's what a conservative is. they look at the constitution as an ironclad document.

it's easy, it's simple, it makes sense and it's perfect. >> what you make of this battle over the budget and the law in the state of the union, what you make of all that. >> i find it ironic, i don't know that iron is the right word but i remember before the election, weren't we all screaming for something different, we wanted someone to break the mold. we couldn't break the mold anymore than we got it. he's not a politician. this is what it looks like when you put someone who is not a politician into the office. he's a problem albert. that's what he's done. >> and yet he's very conservative. he's the first politician in our lifetime that kept his word. that's why i believe, and mr. president, if you're watching the show, do not give in. the american people are behind you. don't give in until they give

you the money for the wall. he's standing on principle . i suffered watching the obama administration for eight years you things that will take us decades to get out of. i do find it, i don't know what the word is, the media, they hate his guts. but they never call him president trump. do you ever notice that, they always call him donald trump. you never hear him say barack obama, it's president obama. it's just the little things. i don't get caught up in it but it's just kind of funny two ladies and jonah, don't forget, you can join us most weeknights. give us a call at 844 live-in tv. or go to blaze tv.com

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people in the sports media liberal, why is that. >> i think the byproduct of our education system. most of them have gone to college and got a degree in general and transgender studies or wherever they get degrees in these days. that's what they do. i got to tell you, when i realized that when i was done

playing and i look back on that, i looked at these guys who have a four year degree and a journalism degree and their standing in front of a kid who's 21 years old, doesn't speak english from the dominican and he's making $50 million a year end they're taking home 1500 a month or whatever and there is some bitterness. you can always see in the writing. >> you think they're bitter because they see athletes making all this money and they make chump change two i don't think that's the sole reason, i think that's part of it. i've seen that dynamic at work. i do know i was surprised by that. we were a lot more liberals in the booth and espn, i had people literally come up to me, it's almost like being a member of the underground rail ray. they would come up and say hey, listen, i read your political views so keep it up. like no one can hear them say

that. it turned out to be true. there were almost no outwardly concern, except for me and i made that and pretty soon. >> could also be in part that you see a lot of the athletes taking many, you see at the nfl where they cave to the left and also conservatives don't use sports to make statements. you just said, you're competitive, you're an athlete, you do your thing, could the problem be that for progressiveness, winning or not winning, whatever the form working to devour it with our ideology. whatever is out there, isn't that, they eat something up, chew it out spit it out and move to the next thing. i'll give you the next thing.

christine blasé ford. when's the last time you heard her name. she was the linchpin and it turned out she had nothing. it turned out all the people involved, inc. occluding michael were lying about this man. i think lindsay graham justified his political life. that was his great speech. i tried to tell people, i tell my kids, the left will destroy a man like that. look what they did to general flynn. this man served his country honorably for how long. it wasn't a misleading, he was set up and working to find out when the molar stuff is all done, if we can get the truth

it's going to be stunning. >> one of the things we will get is in that chair, i hope general flynn who will tell his side of the story. when there holding a gun to your face you're not allowed to speak. there's no check and balance. as a matter fact, congress, even republicans say we have to protect the prosecutor. no you need to protect his targets because there's no check and balance right now. he's got enormous power. >> think about the nsa and google and their invasiveness into our lives. they can go tomorrow and plant whatever they wanted on your computer. >> what you make of the unmasking of these individuals? why are weakening to the bottom of that. >> why are weakening to the bottom of that whole russia

collusion. >> we ask questions, we already know the answer. were talking about, we know they didn't collude with russia but hillary clinton gave somebody access to 20% of our uranium. it is she in the dnc that funneled money through the law firm to next by who worked with the russians. >> and how is that not the story. isn't that amazing to you. >> it's more scary than amazing because in many ways the media can do whatever they want to if they don't like you. they can do whatever they want if they do like you. they've managed to marginalize me in many ways for things i've never done. but when a thing about it, if

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you read a lot of history you said, military history. you see with the president of the united states is trying to do with north korea. it's very difficult. he was handed a bad hand. he is accused of going soft on russia yet he's tougher on russia than obama has ever been. i really like what he's doing with china and he's been expanding militarily in so many ways. i wish. [inaudible] they reversed the terrorist state which has killed american soldiers and their grave threat to us too. and yet he's not given a lot of credit for what he's doing and foreign policy which is essentially regulating it and they attacked reagan two. dragon was very successful. what you think about. >> the first thing in the most

obvious issue for me is, i find it stunning that when the president of the united states says america first, people get offended. that's a dog whistle. two why does that offend the left. >> i think because,. >> to the u.s. as a global community. >> oh sure they do. at this point they want open borders, they don't even talk about national sovereignty. with a have a surrender our form of representation. >> you can't be a sovereign nation without orders. that's just a simple fact. on the foreign-policy side, i was struck by a couple

things. when he was interviewing people for the cabinet, i can't remember the general name. he said he came away with an impression of president trump that he didn't go in (he said i view people and their intelligence by the questions they ask rather than the questions they answered. the questions he asked me were just brilliant. i'll take his word that they were that. his inner circle is smaller than anyone. >> if you don't believe in america first, do you believe in america second. >> if your foreign-policy is not america first, what is it? china first? it was can have to unravel the

kissing of but globally that the administration did globally. our soldiers are buried on foreign territory all over the world. there are some french, but when you go to the graveyard and look at the rows and rows and you watch french citizens react to world war ii vets is one of the greatest things i've ever seen in my life. you realize the media doesn't represent not just american interest but the common man. >> all right,

i want to circle back to where we began the program, the hall of fame. for people who don't know, who decides who gets into the hall

of fame? >> there is a baseball writers association, once you get ten years in qualified to get a hall of fame ballot. >> so ten years in as a writer. >> is a member of the association. you don't have to be a baseball writer. >> see can be an expert on boxing. >> anything but baseball. some of the people that are on their have never watch baseball. >> how many of them are there in this group. >> and there's a little over 400. >> is that typical? >> yes, if you don't vote you lose your ballot. >> so how does him to get on the ballot. >> you have to play ten or more years in the big league once you hit that threshold, five years later you go into the ballot. >> but that means, you go in automatically or how do you qualify the backyard to play

ten year. >> just by seniority. >> by playing a specific amount of time. >> so every baseball player who's played a certain period of time is on the ballot. >> yes, and what happens, if you get less than 5% votes year off next year which is what happens to the ballot. >> with the highest percentage you ever got. >> 50 something. >> you know when. >> i think two years ago. it went down last year. >> figure like perennial. you keep popping up on their ballot. >> i do wonder how my percentages, i haven't won a game or struck out a hitter and apparently i'm getting better and worse. >> do writers tell you what's going on? they must talk to each other. >> about 15 years ago i was in tampa bay. the policy and voting came out and i want to say nolan ryan had gotten elected and the writer walked into the clubhouse and said, this guy was a pompous gu guy, he was a 500-pound guy who says he was the greatest athlete in the world.

he turned out to be a horrible human being. paired i said i didn't vote. no one ryan. he wrote a huge article on it. so you didn't vote for him so you could get content because you're too lazy to go out and get yourself. you realize you are being asked to pass judgment on a career you have no business giving comments on, but anyway, i realized it was a good lesson. i realized early in my life they don't vote on their conscience, they vote. a lot of other things. >> i wanted to ask you this, you haven't complained about this to me at all. i'm the one who keeps bringing this up. let me ask you this, in your mind, who are the three greatest pictures in modern baseball history.

>> when he did it defies logic. i think randy johnson, probably the greatest power picture. >> if i was standing at the plate this guy was up there, what is 6-foot nine. >> yes, he almost brushes you know. >> i'd be scared to death. >> you should be the mexicans >> you should be the mexicans >> pedro martinez had one of the greatest runs but i was next and then there is clemens before he did the stuff. mark: what about ryan? >> one of the greatest i got pictures of all time. nolan ryan was the guy -- his last pitch was 95 miles an hour. only nine years old and. mark: i would consider him one of the greats. >> yes, that is there.

mark: i also consider you one of the greats. nobody better to host. >> i had two goals and honest to god my wife tonight with a new fed 1992 when my first season in big leagues and she said to me, what you want to have? i said i want to win -- roberto clemens is my dad very player and i want to retire having all the teammates who were my jersey who said if i have a game to pitch, win or lose, life or death, i would want him on the mound. in 2001 i won the roberto clemens reward which is the highlight of my career. roberto clemente's doubled up [inaudible] 3000 hit and died in a plane crash, and after, first time i saw my dad cry. he met the world to my dad so he meant the world to me. it was the greatest thrill of my life.

mark: you are fascinating. i want to thank you for coming -- pleasure. god bless you all right, ladies and gentlemen. see you next time on "life, liberty and levin". blood moon turning a shade of red. >>chris: hello again from fox news in washington. if things look different, that's because of the fact we had a fire. yes, a fire in our building on north capitol street so we are over at our wonderful affiliate. in northwest washington but we will put on the show today. we may not have a lot of the bells and whistles we normally have but just take a little time travel and pretend you're back in the 1950s and you will feel very comfortable about that. the ball is now in the democrats court after the president made an offer yesterday trading