was at hillary's victory party. we want to hear from you. our question of the day. you think the democratic party's urging the american dream? at sean hannity on twitter, hannity entity outcome. let not your heart be troubled because laura ingraham is up next. >> laura: villain of the day, i have to come up with my own. i think it is probably the mra -- >> sean: i do this. 24. you did a good person of the day. >> laura: i was in an mri machine -- i have an ankle -- is not a big deal. it's a stress fracture from running. so i'm in the mri machine, and the guy is arranging it -- she's like, don't move, 40 minutes. and i am so tired that i fell asleep. he had to wake me up. even without a sound it makes. >> sean: i'm just claustrophobic. they tried to bite me in one of those things -- get me out of there! >> laura: i love mri sprayed is the only time i get to go to sleep. >> sean: a moment of peace and

quiet and happiness. >> laura: a sad, sad existence. hannity, great show tonight. >> sean: life as a parent. >> laura: i'm laura ingraham and mrs. "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight. we have another jam-packed trip for you, fresh off a plea of noy at his arraignment today, roger stone will be here to respond to his critics and discusses next apps. really cooperate? frank luntz has done hundreds of them but he says his next focus group included one of the nasties exchanges he has ever witnessed. is that hyperbole coming from frank? i don't think so. you see the video. plus, do the democrats have any idea how damaging their newest stars might be to their longevity as a party? governor mike huckabee is here with reaction to the latest shocking revelation about one of those members. but first, kamala's big con. that is the focus of tonight's "angle" ."

well, that didn't take long. the democrats' newest at girl of income redistribution, kamala harris, is already taking big heat from liberal bigwigs. we'll play it in a moment. why on earth with a pick on someone as brilliant and accomplished at senator harris? well, perhaps because she doesn't understand basic economics. >> you support the medicare for all bill. i think initially, i believe it will totally eliminate private insurance. so for people out there who like their insurance, they don't get to keep it? >> listen, the idea is that everybody gets access to medical care. you don't have to go through the process of going through an insurance company, having them give you approval, going through the paperwork, all of the delay, they require -- two of those has not had that situation, we have to wait for the approval and the doctor says, i don't know if your insurance company will cover this, let's eliminate all that. >> laura: will it sound so simple. let's move on. wasn't that michelle obama?

anyway, the coffee guy is now saying, not so fast. >> that's not correct. that's not american. what's next? what imagery industry will we ah next? that alone would wipe out millions of drops of americans are meant as a kind of extreme policy that is not a policy that i agree with. if you take immigration, you take health care, what we have his extremes on both sides, not representing the large majority of americans who don't have a voice. >> laura: now he's a businessman and he certainly is not conservative. but he sees the writing of the wall here. he knows that the democratic party is moving so far left that it's leaving america. democrats like kamala harris are proposing disastrous socialist solutions to things like health inequality or wealth inequality. those are kinds of concepts that

were once left to late-night seminars in college. forget the $32 trillion cost for the 500,000 insurance company jobs that would be lost in the sanders-heron warren-harris pla. fastest way to sync medicare is to give it to everyone, not just the elderly. it will sync much faster, not even five years. even if you tax the rich to death, you can't pay for medicare for all. doctors and hospitals would base pay cuts. they are already facing them today. that means more hospitals closing, more doctors retiring are not going into the profession at all, longer waits for more serious procedures. ultimately, this will lead, my friends, to ration care, according to age, weight, and, yes, other pre-existing health problems. but don't worry. because when you wait in line for the procedure, at least you'll be comforted to know that the government is pursuing kamala's green energy fantasy. >> i support a green new deal. i will tell you why. climate change is an existential threat to us and we have to deal

with the reality of it. we have to deal with the reality of the fact that there are people trying to peddle some idea that we should deny it and they are peddling science fiction instead of what we should do, which is rely on science fact. >> laura: so what does the green new deal mean for you and your family? well, it means the government would reach in and control, monitor, and tax even more aspects of your daily life than it does now. you love your car is much as i do? minus 19 years old, i still love it, too bad. the green party's green new deal calls for replacing nonessential individual means of transport with high quality and modern mass transit. a geeky way of instituting a ban on cars. but who decides whether your car is a nonessential individual means of transport? may be kamala and crew will bring back obama's green jobs. why not? to achieve the green transport utopia, "it will be necessary to electrify everything else,

including transport." if you love your suv, your sudan, heck, your hatchback, too bad. only electric. and if you are deemed worthy of owning a car at all, well, remember, in kamala's gas-free world, the government gas bags have all the power. and even big gulp banning, bike lane mandating mike bloomberg is bulking at harris' green folly. >> i'm tired of listening to things that are pie-in-the-sky, that we will never pass, never afford. i think it is just disingenuous to promote those things. you've got to do something that is practical. >> laura: now, that means banning all coal, banning all cars, banning all nuclear power, taxing miles driven, taxing kilowatts used, taxing water us use. it would be all on the table to force americans to bend to the faddish trends of the socialist left. now more power for them, less power, freedom, and prosperity for you. it's always how it works in a

fully centralized economy. and this is what is lighting the democratic party on fire today? really? instead of kibitzing with the nrdc, kamala should have consulted first with, i don't know, kermit. ♪ ♪ it's not that easy being green ♪ >> laura: it's not because as the kaiser family foundation found recently, support for medicare for all dropped like a rock when you know how much it is going to cost. same deal with the green agenda, would people figure how much it costs. guess this, 50% of survey respondents initially said they favored medicare for all, the whole plan. but when they're faced with the prospects of paying higher taxes to fund their system, and, by the way, the elimination of private health insurance companies, support falls to only 37%. and when pulled the new plan could threaten the current medicare program, only 32% remained in favor.

my friends, this is why is it o critical for the trump administration, the entire cabinet, and the republican party to have a full-court press of the facts there to educate vulnerable voters on the green economy issues, on medicare for all, all of it. history shows us that socialist ideas are always easy to sell to uninformed, indoctrinated, and sometimes desperate voters. but it's impossible to fully fund. it never works. it's a false promise of free stuff forever. but as always, you eventually run out of other people's money. kamala harris, i don't know, would do better pursuing maybe a career as a dj. >> a song that has to be played loud because you have to hear the bass, "the sun is shining" by bob marley and the wailers. >> laura: or may be a backup

singer. >> one nation under a groove, getting down just for the love of it. can i get it? >> laura: or, i don't know, a voice-over artist. >> [laughs] you all right? [laughs] >> laura: [laughs] if you buy what she is selling, she may have the last laugh, but you are going to be crying out all the way to the government-owned bank. and that's the "angle." here not to debate, alfredo ortiz, president and ceo of the job creative network in adam green, cofounder of the progressive change committee. adam, is your name really "green"? green jobs, green economy, although this sounds good from a single payer health care system, though, would cost about $32 trillion over ten years. the green new deal would cost another multitrillion dollars -- several trillion dollars. how will we pay for all of this? >> first, thank you for playing one of my favorite songs.

let's be clear about what the progression of health care reform will look like. the first step from democrats will be protecting free domain pre-existing conditions. >> laura: we get that. but how will we pay for this? have are we paying for it? kamala dodged the question last night. you basically -- it's a problem. she reached into the problem, a classic socialist thing to do. you don't like not getting covered, right? it's terrible to fill out forms, isn't it? isn't it? how do you pay for it? >> so howard charles said there, the writing on the wall. he does see the writing on the wall because elizabeth warren proposed a wealth tax on billionaires. people like him. that is why he and bloomberg are so scared. no what they don't say is that this actually saves money, and even a koch brothers have been funded survey so that i prayed that -- let me give you an

an -- so my call that $12 taxing fee. in fact, $3 more in your pocket. every day. that is what medicare for all is. it's taking all of the bloat of billions of dollars of advertising, excessive ceo pay, really repetitive -- >> laura: according to whom? >> according to every study of medicare administrative cost versus private insurance. that is public record. >> laura: so you know that medicare for all well and up -- you can pick up on this -- we will end up with another two tiered system. you see it in canada, and europe. the rich people coming over and ever the doctor they want because the doctors will opt out of there sent right now their reimbursements are cut, cut, cut. they'll be further caught under a massively expanded medicare. right now, medicare only pays -- you know we only pay about 30%? the average person, 30% of the cost of their health care under medicare. you multiply that by x to get medicare for all, i am not bad at math. i'm not great. but where are we getting the

money for that, alfredo? is this a tantalizing idea? it sounds cool. it sounds cool to people. medicare for all, yeah, go for it. >> laura, this will come for the pockets of the job creators. at the end, this is one of the multiple list of different items that, again, to find this idea of socialism. at the end of the day, socialism is about -- it takes. and capitalism creates. that is why we see thousands of people that are coming from venezuela come from aragua, mexico, coming to united statese they are fleeing socialism. the reality is, there's not a venezuelan dream, not a mexican dream, only an american dream. it's about capitalism. >> laura: one of my producers in her 20s that, laura, people in their 20s, when they hear, t- that is not register because they don't have any life experience with -- i lived in the soviet union as a student. i had enormous -- or change the way i felt about a lot of things

in the government. i was already a conservative but i became a real conservative while i was there. a lot of people have no sense of it. so when you talk about this, they say it is going to buy the country further into debt, it's going to -- they say, we are basically insolvent anyway. it's over them, it doesn't add up. republicans have to be -- doing much better job of selling it. i will tell you what people do react to, this is bernie sanders' radio show in 2017. he had a canadian doctor on. they were talking about wait times in canada. let's watch. >> we do have a problem with wait times for what we call elective or nonurgent procedures, so nonurgent surgeries, a classic example being a hip or knee replacement. >> how long will it take me? >> it depends on where you are in the country. sometimes as a few months, sometimes it's a year. in some places that sometimes, it's been even longer than that that people wait for a hip or replacement, and i think that is totally unacceptable.

>> i appreciate you focusing on the math. i'm a little surprised to hear about alfredo talking about the job creators paying the bill a new system. >> laura: is that acceptable to you? that is what you want in america? sticker that is a red herring. >> laura: that is not a red herring. i have friends in canada motivating for health care. >> i know people who have insurance you wait a long time -- >> laura: thank you, obamacare. >> obama did that. right now, job creators are observing the cost that small businesses and large businesses another country do not have to absorb. it would be a huge boom -- >> laura: do you think health care will be improved? better under medicare for all that it is today? >> americans -- americans would save money. that is a fact brights small business, big witnesses would not have to pay for the exorbitant marketing costs, and duplicate their costs, the people that he represents would win break because small businesses would hire more people. >> i got to interrupt. >> laura: real quick. >> we travel tens of thousands of miles talking to hundreds of

thousands of small business owners, and you are talking about what is best duplicitous. you guys talked about the shutdown -- no, no. you talked about the shutdown for example hurting small businesses but on the other hand, you're introducing a $50 minimum wage, for example, that is will hurt small business owners. >> why would a $50 $50 minimume hurt small business owners with thousands of dollars of health care cost doesn't? i for health insurance money -- they spend a ton of money on marketing and ceo pay pay. >> laura: i think the market could be a lot freer, there's a lot we could do to drive costs down. transparency and pricing, and eliminate some of the involvement in the insurance companies or small for teasers, easy to do, not a hard thing to do. on the green energy deal, this is going to the democrats. i think schultz is on this. 7.2 million jobs could be

limited on under this green new deal. 1.1 million -- 2.4 million and motor vehicle in part, 1.4 million, military personnel, if, as alexandria ocasio-cortez and others, the military spending would be cut in half. again, all pushing to her -- and they say it will create more jobs in a green economy. i get it to the climate changed thing, that is going to be their issue. that is it for them. she said that is the primary issue. aoc. and what is counting not that she can run for president. >> tens of millions of new jobs in this burgeoning clean energy market. >> laura: of its burgeoning why do need to government to step in? >> just like nih steps and to facilitate -- >> laura: if it's a b thing, the free market -- it's the thing. let it go. >> other countries are improving their industries and we are not -- >> laura: we have a stronger gdp in the world. you know why?

we don't follow necessarily what other countries do. our economy right now is the gold standard in the world. we got to go to victor davis hanson. we got to go. we could do this for an hour. great to have you both. we'll have you back. why does it seem that every time the democrats do fake a crisis, their answer is the same? it doesn't seem to be like -- maybe we could learn a little -- it is moved further to the left. aside from bill clinton after that '94 midterm loss, it has been the default response. now my next guest says, this leftward large costs the democrats the white house in '72 and that the current iteration is their most radical turn yet. here to explain, victor davis hanson, senior fellow at the hoover institution. all right, victor. you just heard the discussion. your thoughts? socialism, i think, to the highly uninformed, even with the yellow vest protests in france, and the unrest in venezuela, the argument is, they don't get it right.

france doesn't get it right, venezuela didn't get it right, but we here in united states, we are going to get the socialism thing right. >> i guess we are going to turn everything over to the dmv and they can run things efficiently. but that is a logic of equality of result, laura, it gets more radical and more radical. what happened in ancient athens, republican rome, the jacobins, each generation looks back at the fire prior radical generats and say, you are old fogies and we'll get more radical. we are reaching in this iteration, there is not much more you can go when you outlined this socialist agenda. you really can't go much more to the left. why is it happening and accelerating now? i think part of it is, the democratic party is the party of the very wealthy. i'm not talking about very wealthy. i'm talking about levels of riches we have seen before. silicon valley, wall street, and its primary left. the republicans really learned that in the 2018 midterms, whether it was a vote harvesting

or pacs, they were small. all of these candidates were very well-funded, foundations and research institutes to promote this agenda. republicans, you mention it, haven't offered a very effective counterargument. >> laura: but victor, people are watching is going, okay, we hear this every night. this is going to hell in a handbasket, socialism is coming, so what is the hill -- what the hell do republicans do? you can't have -- alternate olson can fund everything. the koch brothers are into the globalist thing. they do some good things as well. if you had five people who are willing to put the money into real education of these issues, that they have with tom steyer, george soros, they had with weinstein and others, i mean, there's a lot you can do. harvey weinstein poured tens of millions of dollars into left-wing causes. he is out of the picture now. they have a lot more behind him. >> i think you have to start one thing on the educational system

is turning out people that have no knowledge of history, and these are not democrats of the '50s the 50s that our faculty members. they are not progressives of the '60s, not radicals of the ' 70s and approach of the 80s. these are socialists that are teaching our youth. we have to address some fundamental structural changes. do not give money to universities unless it targeted. get rid of tenure. let people with an academic degree teach high school kids with a masters degree. get rid of the school of education. get rid of tenure, as i said. we've got to start -- why aren't we taxing these multibillion-dollar endowments? we got to look at education first of all, and then the republican party has been caricatured as a silk stocking country club party that was wrong on trade, it was wrong on the middle class agenda, that had hollowed out the interior of the united states. we've got to empower those people because the middle class is now republican. and if you don't address their issues, you have no

counterargument against the very wealthy at the very poor. we really have to look at demography and the border. we have 65 million people who do not speak english as the primary language come at a time when people -- >> laura: we did that that to that last night. >> yeah, the assimilation, integration, intermarriage melting pot that say their country and made it unique in history is dying. we need to go back and make immigration meritocratic, measured, diverse, go back -- >> laura: victor, victor, assimilation now is considered racist. i mean, when -- >> we saw that with time broke uprightly one when they attacked tom brokaw, liberal line, i've known him for 20 years. very liberal. i like him. he's a great guy. but he's a liberal. when they throw him an empire -- i mean, it's crazy town. >> you are making that argument, laura -- >> laura: we got to go. >> you're making an effective argument where the republicans making that argument? >> i say this every night. where is trump's cabinet?

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>> if helping people is socialism, then i'm for it. >> i could really benefit our country in the future. >> socialism as a concept, as a philosophy, is good. i think that it's got a bad rap. >> trying to spread the wealth is a good thing in america, definitely anything that is needed. >> laura: eventually you run out of other people's money. polling guru frank luntz has been in the polling business for decades. so what did he think of the latest socialist fat? you are to be a buck, frank, when people find out that it costs them money, that is when they say, wait a second, maybe this green thing isn't so great, baby medicare for all -- hold your horses, stop the presses, maybe i'm learning something. what do you make of this? >> i can give you the statistics behind it. we pulled 18 to 29-year-olds, 58% of them, 18-29, 58% believe socialism is a better economic system then capitalism and only 34% joe's capitalism.

the remainder trust communism. so now you have a majority of young people who believe in bernie sanders, and that is an increasing over time, we can go back 25 years. there is only one-third of young people. do they become more conservative over time? absolutely. but we've never had a young generation who is more ideologically on attuned to what their parents and our grandparents think might >> laura: that is because we never had universities quite this radical or a media quite this involved of the spreading of these untruths about the free market, et cetera, and we have ceos, frank, that are running for cover. these ceos, who have been doing well in the trump economy, they better get out there, get out from under their desks and start defending this way of life in the country or they will find themselves running for the next plane to the bahamas or somewhere they can hide their money. frank, i want to get this issue out. you are calling what you did, your latest focus group, you said it was one of the ugliest scenes you've ever witnessed in your entire career. come on, frank.

this has got to be hyperbole. tell me what we're looking at here tonight. let's play some of your focus group from hbo's "vice news tonight." participants are reacting to the border wall fight and the government shutdown. let's watch. >> nancy pelosi said, no, i'm going to call your shots, okay? the issue is, is nancy pelosi committing an act of treason by acting against the security of united states? i say yes. >> everybody wants to jump the fence, jump the fence, says i am calling for an asylum. okay? why don't you apply at your consulate and do it for legal way? jumping fences, my friend, is not a proper way to enter any country. >> we are talking about the logistics of border security, and not about whether or not border security is inherently nationalistic and inherently racist. >> how is not racist? why is working on working on the

people that are helping in them -- whether it's a belt of the homeless, let's help them. >> we have the money to help everybody. >> no, we don't. >> what he's saying is true. this economy can't survive. >> any one person coming in is technically, theoretically, illegally invading the country. >> i don't think you can look me in the eye and tell me this the national emergency. >> this is a national crisis. we finally have a president in office who is willing to stand up to this! that is president trump. >> laura: frank, there were charges of treason and racism. so why is this ongoing debate over the border wall-shutdown creating more passion than you have seen previously? >> it was much worse. it was actually much worse than this bites me when i see that and i'm like, that is the worst you've ever seen? come to my house. [laughs] it doesn't seem too bad to me, frankie. >> oh, frankie. i haven't heard that -- that is the first time -- >> laura: you have the beard now, frank and i have to do something. you are too cool for school now. go ahead.

>> that's -- i appreciate that. both hbo and "vice news" have been doing this for two years and they've been showing the voice of the people. what you did and see here -- is a much longer segment -- the yelling that happened. one woman got up, she took her microphone and slammed into the ground and said, "i've had enough." i disagree. a gentleman stood up, who would not sit down, the first time i've had to go to that i threatened to leave, and even the camera people thought they were going to have to get in the middle of it. i hope to bring that material to you in the next few days. what is happening now is the combination of the shutdown and of border security and there is no common ground, and that is what is causing this. you have people on the far left, people on the far right, and the people in the center have just two into this out. the problem is, laura, is that there aren't any politicians who are saying, stop yelling, stop insulting, stop getting in people's faces, and actually solve the problem.

>> laura: when you have someone like joe biden say, i work with republicans, they attack him. they are attacking joe biden. [laughs] misses -- again, moving so far to the left, they have left america. they are attacking him. mitch mcconnell has had conversations with the democrats. he wants to work with the democrats and everything from district court judge confirmations, and the democrats are just -- they will resist completely. frank, we want to get that other video. we'll get that and we'll post that, we'll talk about that war with you. thank you so much. i have a question. does the democrat party fully grasp -- really grasp -- i'm talking about the leadership, these deeply fringe elements of some of its newest stars? take freshman democrat from michigan, congresswoman rashida tlaib. her ties to anti-semitism run deeper now than previously known. according to "the daily caller" news foundation, tlaib is a member of the facebook group, "palestinian american congress," where members often demonize jews.

the group's founder was a key fund-raiser for tlaib. in january 2018, he shared an anti-semitic video that claimed jews aren't actually jewish. they secretly control the media. oh, we haven't heard that. here now, former arkansas governor and fox news contributor, mike huckabee. governor huckabee, thank you so much for being here. two democrats now, governor, and leadership positions, steny hoyer and hakeem jeffries, have both defended their newest members, like tlaib, omar, and others against these charges. >> one thing you can always count on -- i was going to say, the one thing you always see about the democrats, they will stay hitched to their wagon even if their wagon is headed off the cliff. it used to be that democrats were a more reliable supporter of israel and its independence and freedom and as a safe state

for jewish people than were republicans. that no longer is the case. they have pretty much abandoned any real commitment and reliability to the freedom that exists in israel and they are taken up with radical groups, and people who are clearly and virtually and if and if i unapologetically anti-semitic. it is just stunning. it's a form of racism that is completely acceptable in our culture today. >> laura: congresswoman tlaib and omar, anytime something like this is brought up, they invariably go to "you are anti-muslim, you are anti-palestinian," it somehow xenophobic or racist, and iteration of one of those attacks. so i think, for people like us, who support israel, support the state of israel, overwhelmingly in congress and the senate, passed a resolution today with marco rubio's amendment in it, it's not a question. but for this new generation of far left democrats, as we talked about earlier in the show,

governor, everything is on the table. you saw this coming a long time ago. you saw this coming 20 years ag ago. where are the republicans now that are really supporting the president's agenda, and exposing what this stuff is at its very core? >> it is one of the reasons that republicans need to circle their own wagons around their principles and around their presidents. this is a president who has had some really gutsy political moves, and is not just moving the embassy, but it's taking a strong stand recognizing israel's right to exist and the unity of the city of jerusalem. that may not seem bold but it is bold because he's the first president in my lifetime who has been as clear about it as anybody has ever been. it's resulted in a huge backlash from some of the radical left who insist on bds. bds, the whole idea of boycott committed by searcher, and sanctions, has destroyed the hopes of a lot of palestinians. let me give you a quick example.

i was in judea just a few years ago at a plant that employed 1100 people, 600 palestinian, 500 jews, they worked side-by-side. the palestinians got four times the amount of money working in that plant and they had ever gotten in their lives. but the bds movement and the pressure shut it down. guess what happened to 600 gainfully employed palestinians? they all lost their jobs and went back to abject poverty. now what kind of nonsense would anybody believe that helps palestinians? it doesn't. and it's that sort of thing that is a battle. it has to be eliminated. >> laura: has to be eliminated. the president needs more copper out there and more advocates for his agenda. have to expose the step of what it is. governor, thank you so much for the job you do, as always. by the way, rogers don't pled not guilty in a d.c. court today. after being charged in this beloved investigation. in his first television interview since today's

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this afternoon. he pled not guilty to charges stemming from the mueller probe for ages five days into his home was warmed by dozens of fbi agents in a pre-dawn raid. now in his first television interview since being a rand, roger stone joins us live. roger, you have not had a busy few days to say the least. on sunday you told george stephanopoulos that he would be open, perhaps, to cooperating with mueller. but just yesterday you seemed to change your tune. what is going on? which is it? >> i think my comments on abc may have been misconstrued. what i meant was, i'm not going to bear false witness against anybody. i'm going to tell the truth under oath and to the investigators if they have questions. subject, obviously, to the advice formatwise of my attorneys. but i'm not going to do what michael cohen has done. i'm not going to make up lies or bear false witness against donald trump or anyone else. the truth of the matter is, even

though i'm accused of lying, when i get adam schiff on the stand, when i get eric swalwell almost end, when i get other members of the committee on the stand, i will demonstrate they are the ones that are lying, not me. >> laura: your old pal jerome corsi was on with martha maccallum earlier tonight and had a warning for you. watch. >> they are extremely thorough. they have everything. roger shouldn't underestimate that every communication he had become a telephone, email, who he met with in person, the mueller team has spent enormous, endless resources, so roger should go into this fully prepared understanding that he is not going to be able to dodge the evidence that i am sure mueller has. >> laura: your reaction to that? >> unfortunately, dr. jerome corsi has already said a couple of things about me that are demonstrably not true. >> laura: like what? >> for example, a member who brought me regarding the podesta brothers' lucrative business dealings in russia based on public reports published by peter schweizer, and

"the new york post" dan breitbart, somehow a cover storr what? what would there be to cover up? my tweet, the podesta brothers, was noncontroversial for six weeks. dr. jerome corsi said he told me that he told me that john podesta's emails had been stolen. on tucker carlson, he said he told many people that prayed with ari malabar, not really a journalist, he says he told everybody that. he never told me that, and maybe he didn't tell us who else he told. he also said that i knew about the billy bush nbc tape and i directed him to contact julian assange and tell him to move up or change the number of data to distract from that. whole cloth. unfortunately for dr. corsi, i have text messages and emails and metadata that shows that he's not telling the truth. >> laura: i know you have already said that you have not deleted any emails from any email address -- >> that is correct. >> laura: any physical

documents, have they ever been destroyed by you? >> no, absolutely not. now it is true that i forgot that i had text messages in an old cell phone that are entirely exculpatory, which prove definitively that randy credito was my source as to the content -- not the content -- >> laura: is that one of the false statements that you made? >> yes. that would be one of the false statements. but the text messages prove that he was my source as to the significance in the october release date of the wikileaks. >> laura: we talked about that on radio as well at the time. we all forget things. but these are pretty -- given the nature of this investigation, might you have forgotten other things? >> to the extent that i made mistakes of memory, they would be without intent, and it would be inconsequential. they would not be material under the law. for any legal expert to look at these little excerpts without reading four and a half hours of testimony to see the context, the questions before and the

questions after, would be irresponsible. but you can watch cnn and see the indictment is a slam dunk. my attorneys don't think so. >> laura: a former fbi assistant director was talking about your only hope now being a pardon. let's watch. >> i'm a strong advocate of the theory that stone is positioning himself for a pardon and that it's likely the only hope he has. he seems driven and motivated merely by absolute publicity, absolute leaping in the center of things, regardless of whether it is bad publicity or good publicity. he needs to be there and he seems to be shaded toward the negative. >> laura: is that at? your only path outcome according to these characters on tv? you're appearing to talk to the president through our show to get a pardon? >> i don't know many fbi agents who know much about politicians, public relations, or the law.

the truth of the matter is, if you read my book, "don't's rules," i believe when you're falsely accused of something, you say nothing, no comment, or roger stone was unavailable, most americans assume you are guilty. the whole purpose of this over the top raid on my house, in which they sent in more men then were used to protect our compound in benghazi, was to paint a picture of me coming to poison a jury -- >> laura: so ridiculous. >> public enemy number one. >> laura: one of the more ridiculous things. it was off and separate was offensive to me. regardless of what goes down here, that -- it was like ellie and gonzales times 29 or times 28. it was absurd. we also had your friend over at msnbc, mika brzezinski, who was making a point about your claim that your dog was terrorized. how many dogs do have them by the way? >> have two dogs. >> laura: what kind? to go yorkshire terriers. >> laura: yorkies. they get terrorized easily. i love them but they are you happy. here's what she said. >> stone's complaint that his

dogs were terrorized is also a tiny but ironic because his seven count indictment includes the allegation that stone try to intimidate somebody by threatening their therapy dog. don't do that. >> laura: okay. >> number one, randy credico's dog is not registered in new york as a therapy dog. number two, he wasn't feeding the dog because he was spending his money on other things, and that was the context. once again, you take something out of context, and it has a different meaning. you can go to "the daily caller" and read the articles i have written about animal welfare and ending the inhumane medical testing on dogs and cats. >> laura: yeah, i know this about roger, roger is a very pro-animal person like i am. you can say it dirty strict comic trickster -- what you'd do the nixing richard nixon p sigr every appearance? >> when i was arrested, i was wearing my "roger stone did

nothing wrong" t-shirt. you can buy them at 1776 dot job. >> laura: by the way, pompeo says that wikileaks is a nonstate hostile intelligence service. why would you work with them? >> could i see the proof of that, please? where is that a judicial decision that says that? i'm afraid our intelligence services have been politicized. john brennan says the same thing. i don't believe it to be true. so it's a claim. it's never been proved it a u.s. court of law. >> laura: talking about roger having gotten -- >> we don't know that prayed >> laura: everyone concluded but they pronounce it. >> is a talking point. it's unproven in a court of law and i don't think it's true. julian assange was interviewed by sean hannity, and he's a journalist. he does a same thing of "the new york times" and "the washington post" and "the wall street journal" do point >> laura: roger, we'll be watching. when is your next appearance? >> i actually will come on with tucker later in the week. >> laura: the laura ingraham podcast tomorrow. >> indeed. >> laura: i was trying to get you to say that.

roger, thank you so much. coming up, the deadly shooting in u.s. history. nearly 16 months later, the fbi says, no clear motive. wait? the only man who has ever interviewed stephen paddock's brother, here next to see what they are missing.

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>> laura: the shooting that 58 americans dead, over 800 injured, and today come after nearly 16 months of investigation, the fbi had found no specific motive in the las vegas massacre, carried out by stephen paddock. the question we have is the following: does the fbi owe victims families and american citizens more than we don't know? for more, we are joined by investigator jim brazeau, the only person to have interviewed paddock's brother, and brian claypool, a witness to the shooting and a representative for several victims. jim, you interviewed paddock's brother. to the fbi after interview you as a result of your interview of him? >> no, but they actually did interview bruce quite extensively. he was in los angeles, and he actually got discovered because there were existing charges against him for possession of child pornography, the same

thing found on his brother steven's computer in the hotel room. so they interviewed him for approximately a day. his reaction to this report, got it from him today, he says there is no surprise as to him, what is in this report, as far as what the fbi is saying, they believe motivated his brother. >> laura: brian, you represent victims, their families. this has been a horrific period for so many prayed so many lives lost. and when you look at them report, it is basically a lot of nothing. i mean, and all social media has to redo speak of. still don't know much about his wife's travel overseas to pakistan, there is been these theories out there about that, nothing really came of it. what are your thoughts tonight? >> yeah, laura, not only am i a victim of the shooting but i represent over 125 victims. i got a call yesterday from a woman in alaska. she is my client. her son was killed in the

shooting. she ironically said to me, hey, have you seen the fbi report? you know what i said, laura? the fbi? i forgot they were even on this investigation. i mean, what has the fbi done in 15 months? they send out those paltry three page report and it doesn't address anything about how the shooting would have been prevented, laura. that is what victims want to know, and people across our country. how could we have prevented this? what can we do to make sure it doesn't happen again? 15 months later, we have nothing. but we do have one thing that the fbi came up with that is really helpful. they concluded, laura, that stephen paddock chose an optimal location for this shooting, that he picked the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay, right across the street where there were unsuspecting and vulnerable victims. why is that important? because of him as a civil

litigation, that is going to be devastating to mgm. it was foreseeable that this shooting could have taken place. >> laura: again, i think for americans watching this tonight, and we remember that night and how this all unfolded, i guess, we want an answer. but there are things in life you just can't find an answer to. that is the case as well. things you can't explain but in today's day and age with social media, you would think you could track something. it looks like not. it is not satisfying. i don't really know what we can do at this point. the fbi -- this is what the reporters. i've read the whole report in about 7 minutes. do not give me much satisfaction. guys, thank you so much. we'll be right back with "the last bite." because my body can still make its own insulin. and i take trulicity once a week to activate my body to release it, like it's supposed to. trulicity is not insulin. it starts acting in my body from the first dose

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>> laura: it's time for the "the last bite" ." a stressed-out good has an emergency. >> you had a bad day at school? >> yeah. i just came to tell you that. >> yeah, what happened at school that have made you had a bad day? >> i just have a bunch of homework bite >> okay. what subjective homework and? >> math. it is so hard. >> shannon: oh, my gosh, i live that every day. the young boy got the help he needed from the dispatcher. he sounded really nice. hats off to you, for knowing your fractions. looks like the kid is a little

lonely, too pray that is all the time we have are denied. important housekeeping outcome on my brand-new podcast drop today, and another one tomorrow. make sure to go to podcast one. to learn all about it, subscribe. it's america, where we are today, where we are going. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team take it from here. >> shannon: i consider all math to be an emergency. maybe that is why we both went to law school. >> laura: bingo. i get nightmares. shannon, when i even think of calculus, or statistics, any of those classes, i can't even think about it. got to have a glass of wine. >> shannon: brought my gpa down to a 3.9. >> laura: [laughs] have a great show. >> shannon: thinks come as before. we begin with a fox news alert made a cry for help from the venezuelan opposition newly appointed top diplomat. he says liberate us. he's urging vice president prince to do that. maduro is firing back. venezuela is just one of many hot spots around the world threatening to ignite, that is