>> bill: good news is here, we are warm so far in new york but it's going to change soon. >> sandra: good luck to everybody. >> bill: what about our midwest brethren? >> sandra: hang in there. dress warmly. that's it for us, "outnumbered" starts now. ♪ >> melissa: new reaction to calls for may 2020 democratic party front runner for the radical overhaul of the nation's health insurance system. now the lines are being drawn. instead of the democratic party and across country, just days after white house hopeful senator kamala harris called for private health care plans to be eliminated. this is "outnumbered," and i'm melissa francis. here today, my partner, harris faulkner. >> harris: happy, happy! >> melissa: fox news contributor lisa boothe, former ohio senate democrat minority leader capri cafaro, and joining us on the couch, because he

can't get enough television, brian kilmeade. from "fox & friends," and a host of brian kilmeade radio show pair this is your 25th hour! [laughter] a >> brian: and ready to go for anything! we had a great preshow. this is unbelievable! >> harris: are you going to tell them? we should have recorded it. >> brian: there's a lot going on. >> melissa: we will go to the topic later in the show. for now, let's start with senator harris suggesting democrats are ready to go much further than they did was obamacare when it comes to overhauling the health care system and putting the government in charge. but now potential 2020 independent presidential candidate, former starbucks ceo howard schultz, doubling down on his criticism of senator harris' push for medicare for all and slamming the glowing list of liberal proposals that he says have come to define the party. >> government takeover of health care, free college for everyone, a free job for everybody, and the democrats and

republicans under the last 20 years on both parties have been complicit in creating a 21 and a half trillion dollar debt that is a reckless and moral abandonment of leadership. >> melissa: potential democratic candidate michael bloomberg also taking here aim at her. watch this. >> i think you can have medicare for all for people who are uncovered, to replace the entirs provide health care for their employees. it would bankrupt us for a very long time. it's just not practical. >> melissa: but democratic national committee chairman tom perez says medicare for all is just one option being discussed inside his party. watch this. >> there is no philosophical debate about the notion that health care should be a writer for all and not a privilege for a few. the democratic primary will have a debate about how to get from

90% coverage to 100% coverage. there are some of it some who advocate for medicare for all, as you describe. there are some who would advocate free market-based approach. >> melissa: now a spokesperson for senator harris clarifying her position, saying, "medicare for all as the plane she feels will solve the problem to get all americans covered, period. she has cosponsored other pieces of legislation that she sees as the path to get us there. this is the plan she is running on." here's how the american people feel about this issue. a new poll shows 71% support medicare for all, if it provides guaranteed coverage. but only 37% support it when they are told that it will result in the elimination of private insurance plans and higher taxes. duh. and that number falls even further when they here it may result in delayed treatment. brian, here's the problem. when he saved medicare for all, it's a cruel thing to dangle in front of people because it's not

possible. these are the numbers from our government published in the hill as well as other places. the average person who receives medicare pays and $160,000. they take out $486,000. so that is more than three times what they put in. if every person in the country took out three times more than they put in, how in the world with that work? as usual, the math doesn't work. either miss harris hasn't done it, or she doesn't care. >> brian: hears with the democrats are right -- health care is number one, or number two with republicans and democrats. the media concern of politics goes out the window as soon a sit affects you. you lose your insurance, you have a catastrophic illness, you are not covered for whatever reason. i get that. but their answers our folly. what i'm so heartened by -- and i slept better last night -- yesterday the adults got in the room. we didn't have to wait for six mus of this rhetoric, we waited two days.

mike bloomberg, who is a democrat. we know how he feels about guns and how he feels about green energy. he says the green plant is at work. we can't afford free preschool for everybody. free college for everybody. and medicare for all is not practical. he is a democrat, and he actually ran a city. the same thing with howard schultz. i am relieved that they came out with the reality so they can fight this out. my question is, if you really also want to destroy the private insurance industry, you are telling 149 million people are happy with their insurance that you've lost it, and all those people that work, you are out of a job. it makes no sense. >> melissa: capri, i wonder if we will go back down this road again, where we are going to sell a whole bunch of people a promise that is not possible. >> capri: look, you just talked about those numbers. that poll of the american public. that's from an organization called the kaiser family foundation. they are the gold standard when it comes to health policy issues. when the american public recognizes, that it sounds like

a lovely idea but when they learned a little deeper and understand how and if it can be implement to -- >> melissa: if they believed that she loves her doctor, you can keep your doctor. those of us who were out there sing the math doesn't work -- >> capri: here's where i think those of us who do have expertise in health policy and those people who are the adults in the room actually to stand up and talk about what the implications are. not only for our debt and deficit, but for actual coverage, access to care, and the job market. not only in the insurance companies, but as well as health care providers. one other thing i do think is really important to mention -- i guess two things -- one being that you talk about a people to get three or four times more than they put in. right now medicare, which is for people over 65 or the disabled, the part that deals for hospitalization is already on the road to insolvency. the part that deals with doctors coverage, we are already having to increase as premiums taken out of social security checks. the system is already really shaky. the other thing that kamala harris did not take into account as of the private sector

is actually involved in the public sector. medicare and medicaid. through medicare advantage and through medicaid managed care. that is almost 100 million americans. >> melissa: that's a great point. people love medicare because they are taking out three times as much as they put in. there is a lot to love. here's what eric trump had to say on how to do last night. will get reaction. >> democrats are not the party of jfk. they have become so radicalized. do you want 75% taxes quest to make you look at kamala harris, they want to bankrupt the system through free health care for all. he heard her sing before, "lest is a limited private health care." how do you pay for the stuff question if we will become venezuela. so many of these other countries. it doesn't work. that's not what america is abou about. >> lisa: you will have me go after the health care expert, here! what scares me the most about this push toward socialism, which is obviously what's happening -- look at kamala harris, she's probably the leading candidate in the democratic primary field and she is embracing these socialist

policies like single-payer. with terrifying about this to me is that the fact that these policies are popular with the majority of americans we look at polling. when you look at democrats, axios data poll the of a day showing recently that the majority of democrats embraced socialism. they have a viewpoint of socialism. you look at alexandria ocasio-cortez, she's wanting to increase the marginal tax rate to 70%. the majority of americans support that. look at sing a pair, the marjorie of americans support that. the only up is when you get into the details, like kaiser pointed out. when you get to the fact that it increases wait times, that will have to increase taxes, the fact that it will get rid of all these negative aspects of it. then support drops. that hinges on american abilities and leaders abilities, and the media ability to drill in and get some of these answers. that's what it hinges on. that's what concerns me. which is why it's so important that we do have people like

michael bloomberg and howard schultz out there saying that this is pie-in-the-sky, that is not going to work. i promise you, it's not going to work. but it's pretty scary stuff. see what it support that we have them congress come i would say. i did homework camp how many physicians were there. there are 14 on the house side and three on the senate side. i had on representative mark green, who ran a medical company, and was special ops flight surgeon for many years in the military. he has seen a lot, done a lot. he said was going to happen is you are going to see a squeeze like never before on the middle class. because the eight or so plans that are out there right now, that would utilize medicare, only three or four of them have to do with keeping our private ability to go to the dark we want her to keep her doctor. the rest really have everybody on more of a single-payer type public situation pretty so the problem with that as of the people who are they haves it would have a lot more in the scenario. it widens the distance between the rich, the very wealthy, and

the very poor. the middle class just basically gets nothing left but bigger bills, because the rich are always going to have what they want on their doctors. because they will go private pay what they want. everybody else is on the public dole, and have those long lines. this is represented of greens experience pizza but he has run a company and looks on how you bill and all that. it has to be someplace outside of that so people countries. one you say you can keep your doctor, we know what happens when you are not honest about that. >> brian: that didn't turn out too good. >> melissa: you can catch howard schultz today on "the daily briefing." he sat down with dana perino and disgusted a host of issues as he considers a bid for the white house. 2:00 p.m. eastern for that. the bitter and deadly deep-freeze gripping large parts of the country. how much work it will get, and when folks can expect to release. what you need to go pray that's coming up next. border security funding is a

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combined with windchill, may very well fall to extraordinarily dangerous level levels. possibly as low as 20 to 40 degrees below zero. even 10 minutes of exposure may very well be harmful. >> harris: chief meteorologist rick rice news has the latest from the fox very extreme rather center today. rick? >> it doesn't take long at all to get to a very to your situation pretty fantasy inside britt i will start off with the positive news, harris. this is saturday. back up toward 30 in fargo, same with marquette. there is warmer air moving in saturday and sunday, and longer-term next week. the cold air is going to move back toward the west coast and the east is going to be well above average. we just got a couple of days we've got to get through. this morning, the actual air temperature got to minus 33 in fargo and minus 23 in chicago. none of these areas broken the

all-time record sprayed a lot of a lot of places broke their daily records. right now it's minus 19 in chicago, windchill is minus 45. we windchill advisories in effect pretty much everywhere all around the great lakes, intro the northeast. down across the spine of the central appalachians here. this cold air is going to shift off toward the east. watch that pink color, how it migrates to the east. tomorrow morning, 7m, coldest of the air here across the eastern seaboard that we are going to see from this event. still very cold tomorrow morning. another very cold morning. and then we start to moderate here a little bit by the time we get toward friday and saturday. take a look at this. this is tonight's forecast, the closest one that is going to be potentially breaking records, the all-time is in chicago. it's going to be right around 24. it'll be very close to that. all the rest of the cities, and think you will be close to the all-time records. take a look at this, this tells you the story. he this.

the minnesota group. there you go, harris. today's high, minus 14 in minneapolis. for the weekend, look at that -- it'll be about a 70-degree swing. that 70 degrees only gets you into the lower 40s. it'll certainly be a lot better. >> melissa: it's minnesota and it's january. i remember how that is. but there have been deaths associated with this cold snap, so we wish everybody the best. cover up. rick, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> melissa: fox news alert, and the next hour a by partisan conference committee is set to open talks on funding the government and border security under the looming threat of another possible partial government shutdown. the big question -- can they reach a deal? the president will sign ahead of the 15th deadline. g.o.p. senator lindsey graham has reported they floated the idea, including the debt ceiling in discussions but wall funding. they are pushing the idea of a car brands of immigration reform deal. but there are no formal proposals at this time. this morning, president trump,

tweeting "if the committee no meaning on border security is not discussing or contemplating a wall or a physical barrier, they are wasting their time. yesterday, top senate democrats chuck schumer warned the president to stay out of the talks. watch this. >> we have come to big agreements before, for example, on budgets and sanctions. what was the common theme? when the president stays out of the negotiations, we almost always succeed. when he mixes in, it's a formula for failure. i asked president trump, let congress do with it on its own. >> melissa: in the meantime, the pentagon says it'll be sending thousands of additional troops to ask of them border, mostly for surveillance, as new migrant caravans had headed ouy from central america. the president has threatened to declare a national emergency to get wall funding if congress won't ask. harris, what you think -- as we see more caravans come, and we

send more troops down to the border, does that change the discussion? or is that -- it's not like we haven't seen this. >> harris: i wonder how much the president is waiting and at this point with only 16 days to go. it changes the discussion in this way. it puts a lot of pressure on them to come to the table in a serious fashion. i don't know at this point how you don't discuss the barrier and call those talks legitimate. no matter how you feel about them. democrats made the promise that if you reopen the government we will legitimately come to the table, and republicans whom i had on my show -- i kept asking, is there enough goodwill? is there enough faith? we're going to test that. we are in the test zone. 16 days are a difficult time to get anything done in washington. when you read that list -- i mean, the debt ceiling? they are throwing everything in there now. but what they promised they would do, capri, was take a look at this issue before the president might declare it as a national emergency.

>> capri: i think the democrats have a lot to lose, here. the way that president trump set this up, basically, he took a lot of flak from the right by saying, "we are going to open the government back up and try this again," and now this conference committee -- which is democrats and republicans both -- but if the conference committee -- let me put it this way. if they reject the suggestions coming out of the committee, it will then be on the democrats to own it. if there's another shutdown. if you have issues with the debt ceiling, fixable. i think it behooves democrats politically as well as as a governing body -- >> harris: how about not lying? just being honest? i was careful not to use the word "liar," because they don't want to call anybody a name, but the fact of the matter is if you say that you are going to do something and you don't do it and the president reopens the government and comes to what i call "make compromise great again," but so you have. >> capri: all you have is your word pair that's all you have.

>> brian: with the president just tweeted, if you're not going to talk about some border wall or fence or barrier -- right, there is no reason to have the talks, he is saying. was very interesting, i couldn't get senator casey the democrat from pennsylvania to agree to anything but a fence. steel slats are there already. if the president degrees, the experts told him don't use the israeli model, use the model that we have now, the president is convinced of that, would you do it? he said, "i only agree to a fence." what the difference? the experts are telling you steel slats. the president isn't getting his concrete wall. there is the gift. he's afraid of his own leadership, or he's unable to think outside the fence. >> harris: or give him another option. it could be what he's hearing at home from constituents. that's what melissa has been talking about, with semantics. >> brian: with the president wants. >> melissa: why don't they just put in language with a limit with the barrier could be? if democrats say it can't be cement, it cannot be this, and

you just limit -- it is callous. >> harris: how do they know, are the experts? >> lisa: or write in a way that everyone can go home and say they cover they want. president trump can say it's a wall, democrats can say it's specifically not a wall produce thing like that. you're not going to get an encumbrance of deal done in the short a period of time. you look at issues like daca -- exactly, hair spray to get issues like daca both the like they've been trying to solve these more nuanced immigration issues for quite some time. they failed to do so. it's certainly not going to get done in this short period of time. >> harris: do declare an emergency if you are the president? >> lisa: i think that might be going to make its funding. to brian's point as well, you got a bicameral bipartisan group of members of congress that are trying to come to terms with something that both president trump would sign off on and both their parties and both bodies of congress are going to sign off on.

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a pivotal moment in venezuela's deepening political crisis. disputed president nicholas maduro grasping for power now despite a wave of antigovernment protests as well as pressure from the united states to step down and let opposition leaders took charge. steve harrigan is live for us in caracas, venezuela, with the latest on this. steve? >> harris, the downtown area of the venezuelan capital has once again become a scene of protest. it's got thousands of people out there with bells, whistles, horns, signs and flags. they are all calling for the ouster of disputed president nicolas maduro. this is the greatest protest we have seen since guaido called himself interim president. guaido got a big boost this morning, he got a call from president trump in a move the white house it was a move to show support for democracy in venezuela. as far as the disputed presiden

president, nicolas maduro, he won reelection last year and a vote widely regarded as rigged. he is posing with the military almost around the clock, with generals, soldiers, even training with them in the field. he knows that the military could be the key for his support to hang on, and he is asking for their loyalty as the struggle goes on. as for guaido, he got the boost from president trump today but he has had his bank account frozen. he has also been banned from foreign travel by the maduro regime. u.s. officials have said any harm that comes to guaido, they will be serious consequences. harris, back to you. >> harris: steve, one of the things we been watching is how quickly this has devolved. we know there was an expiration date on maduro's -- from the last election. it was in january. how is he mentioning at this point that you are learning to hang onto power? >> two things to keep in mind. first, he does have backers.

russia, china, 15 countries in all still back nicolas maduro. they have strong trade relations and they don't want to see them overthrown. he also has a lot of supporters among the people, as well. it's not just all for guaido here. he has control of the media, he has control of the courts. perhaps the biggest key is has control of the military. that's what we're seeing him in green fatigues and with those that generals day in and day out. they could be the last resort. if those protesters down the street make their way to the presidential palace, that is the big question. will the rank and file soldiers file fire on their own people to protect nicolas maduro? that's the scene we could see in the weeks ahead unless there is a peaceful resolution to the standoff. harris? >> harris: fox news via steve harrigan in venice with her today. very much. >> melissa: giving your now a live market look as the u.s. is key cap the high-stakes trade negotiations with china this morning. look at the dow will come up 360

points, at the white house aims to settle a trade war that has rocked the global economy for six months now. negotiations face a hard deadline, self-imposed, and march 1st to reach agreement. if that doesn't happen, the trump administration has vowed to raise tariffs on $200 billion worth of chinese imports. the very next day. with china expected to retaliate immediately. president trump is scheduled with a face-to-face with chinese vice premier liu. he is in washington tomorrow. secretary of treasury steve mnuchin laying out the white house objective during these crucial talks. >> the president wants fair trade with china. it's got to be reciprocal. right now china has free access into our markets, and we have limited access to theirs. so the critical issues that we have talked about is market access, making sure there aren't forced joint ventures, not a forced transfer of technology, and that we have a mechanism

that when we reach an agreement we can monitor this agreement and that they will live up to i it. >> melissa: so, brian, if you listen to the financial folks were close to the negotiations, it sounds like part of this is going better than the other. that there is movement on getting the u.s. truly into the market, where they can own the majority of a company if not the whole thing. whether it's financial services, that basically it's opening up. the sticking point is that forced transfer of technology and also the theft of ip. it is so deeply ingrained in the way that china is doing business. that's going to be very tough nut to crack. >> brian: it is, but there are people on board. they know how to do it, with the proposal, when it comes out. i think this is the biggest story that's getting the least attention. because it's not a story. if this ends up just being a spree, where they buy our stuff for six years, we won't need the sugar high. what we need is a restructuring and an opportunity to compete

for the chinese people to provide products for them as well as make this place a little bit more amenable to manufacturing. i love that robert lighthizer is a mess. i love that steve mnuchin is there, too. i would tough guys are there. and so are theirs. this is their a-team, and i love the fact -- and i would not be optimistic except for they are vulnerable for the first time since fox news started. they've never been this vulnerable. >> harris: i want to ask, capri, because you were in leadership in your state senate in ohio. so i know you do deals around those tariff goods if you will. what is our relationship with china? how much has it changed over the years? there used to be a time when trade talks were different than they are now. what kind of a rule is president trump playing in evening the playing field right now, do you think? they seem like they are feeling themselves. >> capri: i think president trump has really rewritten the rule book on this. particularly as a republican, usually what we have seen in

generations past and administrations passed -- republicans in particular -- we see a more pro-globalist, pro-trade, pro-wto kind of approach. we are not seeing that from president trump. frankly we are seeing less of that than from democrats like president obama who supported the trans-pacific partnership, for example. this is taking a relationship with china and put it a bit off-kilter. because they are not anticipating what president trump is doing. there's a lot politically riding on this, let her economy writing of this. one thing we are talking about either that we should remind our viewers is that there were $6 billion given in relief to farmers as a result of the tariff retaliation. those were delayed, the payments were delayed because of the shutdown. >> harris: we reported that when it happened. the >> capri: if we get is that again, these farmers could be on the hook again. >> melissa: lisa, what are the stakes of things breakdown? i think that's a lot of what we're talking about. >> lisa: i think they are high, particularly heading into

the 2020 presidential election. trade was a huge issue for present trumpet. it was one of the things that propelled him of the rust belt states. we sought become an issue in the democratic primary, which bernie sanders won michigan as a result of his policy on trade. it will be interesting heading into 2020. i think president trump needs a win here. i got a question for you, because you know so much about this issue. what does the wind look like from president trump on this with china? >> melissa: i think if we get from in the tariffs go by, that's pretty clear. we have seen some of them get lowered on the chinese side. what it would mean is that there is a real time barometer of what's going on, and that's the stock market. if this gets resolved, we would see that take off in the stock market again. that would be a huge report card and a huge reward to americans and their 401(k). it's a big one. billionaire democratic mega donor tom steyer launching a new

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here's his pitch. >> our goal is to get them to start the process now. and our goal is to go to the districts and let them know that everybody in their district is in favor of that. and if they are not in favor of that, then how can they claim they are representing their district? >> lisa: none of the democrats that he is targeting have publicly supported impeachment. many say they prefer protections for the special counsel and a "wait and see" approach ahead of the report. he said that stance avoids the "fire in the kitchen." because they don't want to believe their own eyes. they want someone to come in and handed to them, and say, "it's not you, i will take the onus that this is a crime. that this is impeachable." honestly, that is their job. congress is supposed to oversee the executive branch, the

president, and when he is a criminal they are supposed to remove him. >> lisa: brian, obviously tom steyer has got some really deep pockets here. how much impact will this campaign have? >> i think people to marginalize them, especially considering is not going to run now. when you see hakeem jeffries answer the question, he's not at that place now for impeachment. here nancy pelosi behind close door so the president "we are not looking to picchu chemicals that you got two years left. i really going to try and boost his ratings and put his support on hyper-speed? this will happen. we saw this play with bill clinton. he is a present, they've got a lot of things to do. i think democrats are too smart, and would know better than to waste, what michael cohen or what roger stone might say or d do. >> lisa: capri, to brian's point, when you were in the state senate in ohio you

represented a trump district. how would impeachment play out in some of those districts and even more importantly swing districts but democrats are going to try to win or win back the district that president trump one? >> capri: there's a reason why we are not seen democrats go out there and say that they are for impeachment. they want to see the investigation be protective, et cetera, et cetera. they know this is bad politics and bad objects. democrats will come off like sour grapes, like they're targeting the president, and we have to remember the 2016 map is exactly the same as the 2020 map. democrats need to win in places like ohio, like wisconsin, michigan, and pennsylvania in order to win the white house in 2020. if the evil he made these voters, the ones that would return four years ago, by saying we want to kick them out -- it's going be a problem. it's going to backfire. you know what, god bless america. this guy can just throw his money around and try to do what he wants to do. tom steyer. it's his prerogative. v3 but it's it's not just the swing districts, they are getting a lot of pressure from

the progressive based dog base. we saw kamala harris push for single-payer. the democratic party's definitely moving to the left. so what kind of impact, what pressure are they facing from that base? >> harris: one thing they are facing pressure over us to come up with some ideas about the economy and health care. if you could take the economy farther north for some of those compartmentalized groups of voters, it would be impressive to see democrats. because in terms of jobs for blacks and hispanics, i won't go down the list, but i caught what you said in that list of states. democrats have to figure out if they can come up with a presidential candidate who will actually go to wisconsin. [laughs] they had some real problems last time but didn't have anything to do with donald j. trump. it had to do with their own platform and whether their and is a come hither clinton, where she was going to go in with her focus is on. there's a lot between now and 2020. >> capri: if democrats are really serious and united in the

fact that they're one and only goal was to defeat donald j. trump in the white house, then we need to not be fighting amongst ourselves and identify someone who can do just that. someone like a sherrod brown, we mentioned yesterday. speed when i know you are a friend of his. >> capri: them just just saying that because he is on the on the home team, but you need somebody who can talk to those voters. there aren't a lot you can do that right now. >> lisa: let's get melissa in on this. do you think that's what democrats will do customer if you have a crowded primary field. it looks like kamala harris at least right now seems to be different later. how will she plan some of those states like wisconsin? >> melissa: when i watch this fight, it's funny to me that they have become the party of the battling billionaires. you just have these billionaires trying to bend the party to their will. and that's not the democratic party that i thought i knew, at least growing up. all of a sudden you have these really rich people out there trying to shape the candidates and shape the agenda. it's interesting that on the

republican side you've got somebody who i guess is a billionaire -- people question how much he is worth or whatever -- but who identifies with the common man. it's just interesting the way that we've seen sort of a flip-flop. >> harris: because you much there to see the common man. >> lisa: minutes from now we expect to hear from nfl commissioner roger goodell as the big talk of the super bowl week is not about teams playing the sunday, but the blown: new orleans ten days ago. whether the commissioner will break his silence, and what he should say. what you think he will say? plus the other long-simmering controversy the nfl has on its hands, stay tuned for that. ♪ the best simple salad ever? heart-healthy california walnuts.

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>> harris: nfl commissioner roger goodell is set to hold his annual super bowl week news conference just minutes from now. it'll happen in atlanta. it comes amid the outcry and lawsuits over the blown call in the nfc championship game. the new orleans saints, the fans saying they were robbed of the trip to the super bowl number 53. ten days later, neither the league nor good dell has

addressed the controversy publicly. they're also announcing that halftime act maroon five will take place in the usual pregame press conference, and that's the middle backlash from fans upset that colin kaepernick is not found work as a quarterback since launching the league's national anthem protest controversy. the nfl saying, "maroon five trend has been working hard on a super bowl xliii halftime show that will meet and exceed the standards of this event. as it is about the music, the artists will let their should do the talking as they prepared to take the stage this sunday." many are blasting on twitter, saying they are trying to avoid more bad publicity. brian kilmeade, a couple of lengths to go down here. let's start with the blown call. what you do after the fact? >> brian: nothing. if you want to make a speech about it, okay, but that would be unprecedented. you never want to commissioner adjusting something that happened on the field. especially now, you don't even have a player problem. you have a rough issue. >> harris: wasn't why was aboux

before? today in reading a lot of beds and blogs saying this wasn't in the shadows prove that they've had a consistency issue. is that true? >> brian: their human beings. people say in every aspect in life you have good weeks, bad games, good games. this was supposed to be an elite crew to get to the playoffs. >> harris: do think it was a blown call? >> brian: no question. they were a million problems. i know states fans can be upset, the immaculate conception of the 1970s, the reader still say that franco harris never caught that ball. that's part of the game. the bill would be a part of this. >> harris: the immaculate reception? [laughter] >> brian: that the different disputes. he was -- >> harris: we got you. >> brian: thank you for that correction. [laughter]

>> harris: let's talk about this other -- i want to go with you. >> brian: that's brian mccarthy about to get ready, that means he's coming up very shortly. >> harris: we will take it as it happens here on fox news. let's talk about this other lien we go down. that has to do with that halftime. and the perception, because we don't really know why they aren't holding the news conference. nobody is actually set it. the perception out there among some fans is it so they can avoid any topic that might come up with colin kaepernick. >> melissa: you are asking what i making? i'm making frito pie... [laughter] i'm avoiding the conversation! >> brian: frito pie? >> melissa: frito still out on the upper eastside. i have had no freedoms in the past. here's what i would say about maroon five trend artists are about singing and create art. why were they doing a press conference anyway? >> brian: they always do. >> harris: it's an annual event. >> melissa: why?

a parent to pay to talk, they paid to sing. when actors -- >> harris: singing is talking with music. but okay. lisa? >> lisa: am sick of them trying to come in and dictate the terms. so i'm glad maroon five trend is going to come in and play. i will probably be eating pizza, wings, drinking beer. if you are worried about bad publicity, should they just get rid of him customers who like some customer can never had anyone come to his defense. he gets $40 million per year. the nfl has had controversy over kneeling, domestic violence, even the skull. it seems like he doesn't handle anything up or be the premier just fire him. >> brian: for the record, i like him. >> capri: i follow the browns come i watch hockey. my teams, the blue jackets, they are tapping the divisions. so i don't care. [laughter] >> harris: right now, the file footage -- >> brian: maroon five might take a knee at halftime.

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>> melissa: i have to say thank you to brian kilmeade, who is already working on his neck shoulder here. you were working online, blogging, tweeting... >> brian: some big news will come out of that press conference. there will be hundreds of media members from around the world. i was just seeing what roger goodell said already. i'm heading to the super bowl on thursday, "fox & friends" is paying. i have their credit cards. [laughter] >> melissa: that's fantastic, can i come with you?

>> brian: nope, i'm told i have to go alone. >> lisa: bring up some souvenirs. it >> brian: they are overpriced prayer not good for you. >> melissa: b will be back at here at noon eastern tomorrow. here's harris. >> harris: let's get started, the deadliest deep-freeze in the generation according to the national weather service taking hold of parts of the midwest purposes must pledged democrats way into the negative double digits in terms of winchell and actual temperatures. it's been blamed for at least four death already. as we go to "outnumbered overtime," i'm harris faulkner. prompting flight cancellations, school closings, michigan, wisconsin, have declared states of emergency. take a look at the chicago river. covered in just huge blocks of ice. the high they are today minus 14. that's cold than anchorage, alaska, and the cit