a few weeks ago, we weren't talking. today we were talking. he was very cordial. >> neil: that's good to hear. thank you for taking a few minutes to talk to us. congressman chuck fleischmann. here comes "the five" ." ♪ >> greg: hey, i am gg with katie pavlich, juan williams, jesse watters. she borrows her barbie dolls' shoes. dana perino. "the five" ." it's the battle of the billionaires and now it is mike bloomberg's turn. he used to be republican but he became so rich he had to join the democrats. he is rich, white, male, and in cnn terms, he is safe. now he blow beats in the faces of other dems, offering to them based on his decades of success as well as being boring and earnest. speaking in new hampshire, he reminds the dems that the election takes place in america,

not berkeley. the democratic campaign resembles a high school beer party before mom and dad show up. >> i am tired of listening to things that are pie-in-the-sky, that we are never going to pass, never going to afford. >> people aren't going to give up their jobs if those jobs habits not the on the right side of the green new deal. i think you can have medicare for all four people that are uncovered to replace the entire private system where companies e health care for their employees would bankrupt us for a very long time. >> greg: talk about charisma. or the opposite of charisma. don't have him stand in front of machines. he just blends in. bloomberg is calling b.s. on its own side, offering a reality check to a party of dopey history. that makes two billionaires.

him and sheltering cold water on the bozos. this is a party tied in knots with the loudest voices embracing bad ideas that left behind a centuries worth of skulls. as progressives, aren't they supposed to look forward incident dressing up as lenin? they look at this country and they say i'm tired of this prosperity. let's destroy the greatest system ever created and replace it with a thing that always fails which is why gloomy reminds people that socialism isn't some cool new thing, a hip teacher told you about to get you to share his long in a van behind the football field. >> we need a healthy economy. we shouldn't be embarrassed about our system. if you want to look at a system that's noncapitalist it, take a look at what was perhaps the wealthiest country in the world and today people are starving to death. it's called venezuela. >> greg: sounds like he is handing some common sense to the dems, like feeding steak to a catfish. when i was writing this, i didn't actually listen to the

tape, katie. i read his quotes. he's -- these are good quotes. he is a smart dude. then i listen to him and say no. he's not making it. >> dana: it would be nice if you could put yourself on 1.5 speed. >> katie: he is not going with the bombastic nicknames, not the cory booker style spartacus moves. i'm not sure he's going to make it but i do like what he is saying about democrats. he had things to say about venezuela and the socialism we are seeing there. today alexandria ocasio-cortez attacked howard schultz for being a billionaire and saying that he needs to get in line. it's funny how the left likes billionaires when it's convenient, like donations to their campaign, george soros funding all of these advocacy groups. when it comes to their success in the dream and building comes up from the bottom as howard schultz did, grew up in brooklyn housing project and made his way to starbucks.

>> dana: get in line is what democrat said about alexandria ocasio-cortez. she did handily beat the congressman who didn't show up to his own debate. >> greg: bloomberg was a pretty good mayor, writes? >> dana: compared to now, yeah yeah. >> greg: are rock that you found at the bottom of a toilet." >> dana: people are hiring private security to protect themselves on the upper west side. come on. >> jesse: is that what your pilates teacher told you. >> dana: no, but he told me something else. >> greg: do you think somebody like him is going to make any headway? >> dana: i think the headway he makes is by -- within the party. i don't think he goes to the front of the pack is the ultimate nominee but can somebody like howard schultz or mike bloomberg get the democratic party, keep them from going so far left that it's

unrecognizable. >> greg: what do you think, juan? do you think he has a chance? will anybody listen to him? whoever is kind of trumpian, charismatic, memorable is going to be who's going to be the nominee? >> juan: people like the fact that mike bloomberg is a thoughtful guy and he has a lot of money obviously so we can fund his own campaign. he's going to get lots of platforms. you saw him in new hampshire. no question he's going to be out there. he is known, the new york media likes him. that's not the issue. the issue is whether or not a billionaire in an era of tremendous income inequality is in touch with the real issues facing the american people. i was looking today. something like was it huge number, 57% of americans can't afford a $500 bill in 2019. there is populism, trump side.

the populism on the far right and the far left. bernie sanders, donald trump. we have talked about it. i think he's out of touch with that. the criticism of medicare for all which is coming from kamala harris. guess what, most american supported. >> greg: until they figure out how it works. >> juan: they say what about, can i keep this, whatever. the idea that is starting the discussion is supported by most americans, including most republicans. >> greg: that's a half opinion. the other half is how do you pay for it. once you get to that, the other opinion goes. jesse, would you like to talk about bloomberg or would you like to talk about howard schultz? >> jesse: i will do both. >> greg: can i show you something? it's this tape from morning joe. or watch what they did the howard schultz. they are trying to protect kamala. >> how much does an 18-ounce box of cheerios cost? an 18-ounce box of cheerios. i don't know.

>> you ask us. the budget for the ba. >> i don't eat cheerios. >> for box. >> greg: because she looked it up on google. she does not eat cheerios for breakfast. >> jesse: as the reigning supermarket shutdown champion, it was very disappointed in schultz. i bought some cereal today that cost $7.99. it was very expensive organic cereal. i treat my body like it should be treated. only the best. here's what i think. what's happening right now the democratic party is an intervention. trust me. i know about interventions. it's happened a few times. i know it when i see it. the centrists are making the same arguments that conservatives have been making about socialism for decades. this is why it stings so much. the democrat responses shut up, billionaire. that's all they have. schultz and bloomberg are coming at the democrats with genuine

political fellowship. these eric trump haters. they want -- running one of the biggest companies in america. the democrats don't argue the substance of their policies. they don't say this how it's going to work and this is why it's going to work. they say you are mean for opposing me. it's bad politics and bad policy because you are ceding the entire middle of the country to republicans, and republicans don't even have to do anything. if you look at the policy of it, to say i want to destroy a trillion dollar industry, put everybody out of work, 50% of the country gets their health insurance through their company and they like it. you take their plans away, it's going to be armageddon. >> greg: schultz is already having an effect. kamala is already adjusting. she's on defense. she's changing her mind. i'm not going to ditch the

industry. >> juan: she never said that. >> katie: she said eliminated. she said eliminate it. >> juan: the issue here, the deficit has ballooned under donald trump. where did vulcan say >> katie: >> greg: the mainstream media loses it again, the latest meltdown is next. i know that every single time that i suit up, there is a chance that's the last time. 300 miles per hour, that's where i feel normal.

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melting down after intelligence officials testified on isis, north korea, and iran. president trump and his intelligence chiefs are worlds apart on isis, russia, and the border. >> this was a public repudiation by his own people of donald trump's worldview. >> we are describing a different planet than the one donald trump and habits. >> disparity between what they presented and the planet the president lives on. speak a word is the president get intelligence and foreign policy advice on? >> not agreeing with these conclusions is willful disregard. >> it's a dangerous thing. >> jesse: after the media freak out, the president calling the intel chiefs passive and naive when it comes to iran. the president has made the media take the side of the intel agencies. they've never done that before. >> jesse: aren't they forgetting 2003?

>> jesse: very critical back then. what do you think is going on with the president and his men at the top. >> dana: we cover it. it's the story about the president and the media. i am actually melting down about the threats. it is super serious. we are behind on the cyber war, especially china and russia. i look forward to this hearing every year because i want to know, what are the problems. >> jesse: dana perino, everybody. you look forward to it. i do too but i don't remember of it until the day before. >> dana: he also said in his tweet that they should go back to school. they work very hard for him every day. throwing shade. >> jesse: did you say throwing shade? >> dana: is that woke? >> jesse: greg, what do you think is happening here? critical of the intel people.

>> greg: the media is demanding everybody agrees. they can't be happy. they call it disparity but it's not lockstep. they want lockstep them if they don't see it, it's called disparity. they keep parsing his tweets. they are like old guys on the beach with metal detectors hoping to find a bottle cap. they overlook bigger stories. perhaps this is working. the fact that the good cop bad cop thing that was going on with syria i think might be working. north korea had a good cop bad cop thing where people were disagreeing. that seems to be working. if you don't believe there's progress there. it's better than it was last year and you have to admit it and you can hold two ideas in your head. we are destroying isis. we will continue to destroy isis. it doesn't have to be the prison of two ideas. you said we destroyed isis but they are still here. you can have both. we are destroying and continuing to destroy. the media wants you to be in their prison of two ideas. let them stay there.

you have a free mind. you are smarter than they are and you make more money than they are. jesse. >> katie: much smarter. >> jesse: take it away. >> katie: there's plenty of room for skepticism when it comes to what the intelligence community is saying and the sourcing these media outlets are using to push a certain agenda when it comes to foreign policy. however, when it comes to the threats we do face, i was at a cybersecurity panel last week at foundation for defense of democracies and they were saying with cyber, the good news is both adversaries, united states, russia, china, where bad at responding are better at attacking. that's her analysis. we have to get better at cyber. it's a serious thing. there was talk of ways to respond. while we are all fighting over who said what and who agrees with what, there are real things happening behind the scenes that we need good people to be doing. when it comes to the isis thing,

yeah, we've seen a number of isis attacks after the president has said directly they have been defeated. is he talking about the territory? yes. does it mean isis is defeated all around the world? no. i got a press release today. someone got arrested in the united states again for giving material support to isis. that comes down to the ideology of islamic radicalism and what our approaches to that. >> jesse: may be the congresswoman from minnesota can write a letter of support. to dana's point about the threats, there are serious threats but the president has been pretty strong on isis, north korea, china. >> greg: on russia. >> jesse: he's been effective in those areas. >> juan: i am listening to this defense coming from at least three of you and i think it's tissue thin. i guess you are desperate. >> greg: explain how it's tissue thin. >> juan: you have trump's people saying we're doing doing

a realistic assessment and we all agree it's not a matter of disagree. no, it's fbi, cia director of national intelligence putting themselves on the line before you, the american people, and saying here's the reality. it's not what this guy is saying, not what trump is saying. they don't mention the southern border is an immediate threat. no, they are talking about china and russia working together against us. >> greg: china before -- >> juan: think about north korea. he's going to go meet again. for what? he says things are better than ever. no. they are still intent on creating nuclear weapons. how about iran? trump is like oh, yeah, iran is terrible. they are not violating the terms of the obama agreement. you never hear this from trump. it's like it's on a different planet and you guys are -- i don't want to hear it? >> greg: venezuela is

responding saving or willing to cooperate. must have been's notepad. >> jesse: remember when obama had the intel people cook the books on isis and say not that big of a threat anymore. the rise of isis, he blamed the intel agencies for missing it. remember when he weaponize the intel agencies that go after donald trump. >> juan: let's do a current affairs show on fox news channel. we learn today that trump was talking with putin privately. he doesn't have a translator. putin has a translator. he has aids. >> jesse: sour grapes. up next, you are so safe. you've never been right yet. up next, video of the deep freeze in the and the government claiming that the cold is making us too soft.

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♪ >> juan: ice, ice, baby. deep-freeze in the midwest. polar vortex creating negative degree temperatures. it is so cold rail cruise in chicago had to light fires to keep the shrinking tracks connected. check out this crazy video of mike tobin in chicago earlier today. that is boiling water thrown by mike instantly turning to ice. hundreds of schools are closed across a number of states and in some places, the post office has stopped delivering the mail. the governor of kentucky, he's not having it. he says we are all getting too soft. >> now we cancel school for cold. i mean, -- >> it's the deep-freeze. serious business. >> come on, now. no ice, no snow. what happens to america? we are getting soft.

i've being only slightly facetious but it does concern me a little bit that in america on this and any number of other fronts, we are sending messages to our young people that if life is hard, you can curl up in the fetal position somewhere in a warm place and just wait until it stops being hard. that just isn't reality. it just isn't. >> juan: he's a hard man. katie, what do you think? al roker said that guy is a nitwit or something. the teacher in the year in kentucky said you go stand outside and this temperature. >> katie: back in my day, juan, we walked to school uphill and back both ways. >> dana: you grew up in arizona. >> katie: we were off school for an entire week one time. snowy part of arizona. there is part of arizona that looks a lot like colorado. we have ski resorts. it tends to get cold there. not negative 40 like in chicago. i read a story today about how the penguins at the zoo had to

be taken inside because it was so cold. i think the kids cannot go to school. >> juan: incredible temperatures. 54 below and international falls, minnesota. 52 below and minneapolis, chicago with the windchill, 52 below. are you going outside? >> jesse: there's only one way to beat the cold. move. i would have everybody move. i wouldn't live there. if i lived there, i wouldn't stay long. i would go right to florida where i belong. you have to weather it out. i have tips for staying warm. do you want to hear them? grow a beard. just the man. grow a beard. >> katie: very sexist. >> greg: men who identify as women can grow beards. >> jesse: anyone who can grow a beard, grow a beard. instead of oil to eat your home, dugas. it's cheaper. always use jumper cables when you leave the house. drive an suv.

>> dana: did you get these off the internet? >> jesse: this is from my brain. when you drive your suv. you need to drive an suv. it's what's making the environment warmer. we need more warmth. also i'm taking back my sweater. remember how -- i am lifting the sweater band. if you want to lay her up, layer up. >> juan: dana, i can imagine you as a little kid. >> dana: to max bevins point, the governor of kentucky, these decisions need to be made at a state and local basis. our superintendent of school and douglas county colorado, he would only close school if he could not get down his driveway and his tractor. he was a quarter-mile. if he could get down in the tractor, we all had to go to school. i remember we didn't have school for a week because of temperatures like this. >> jesse: you studied up hard at home.

>> juan: take a look at this tape. oh, look at the full screen. >> katie: we used to wear our pajamas inside out. >> juan: you can see "we feel bad for kids nowadays. they get to see if school is closed on the internet, mobile devices. people used to have to wait to see." >> dana: would wake up in the morning. is there any word? you have to wait for your local news. there was suspense. the one thing i do worry about that we haven't paid enough attention to are the farmers and ranchers in these places that are trying to take care of their livestock. this is our livelihood. they might have to do a disaster declaration. >> jesse: animals are great. >> juan: >> juan: i imagine youd just say am not going to school. >> greg: i grew up in the west coast but isn't it appropriate that the kentucky governor is saying that the snowstorms are creating snowflakes. you can use that, tomi lahren. i didn't see snow until maybe i was 15. i went to lake tahoe skiing.

i grew up on the west coast. i got second degree burns. >> dana: i didn't go to the beach until i was 16. >> greg: it's tough to talk about weather. we are a great show. we can talk about anything. >> jesse: are you pulling your punches with your weather jokes? >> greg: i don't want to seem like somebody -- there are people who are probably suffering. i try to be careful about making jokes. >> jesse: you don't have any algor material? >> greg: i have nothing. i am worried about my pipes. i don't want my pipes to burst. that happened last year. the pipes in my building exploded. okay, we'll go. finally i am talking about the weather. [laughter] shut up. >> juan: katie, do you know what jesse gave me for christmas? a snowflake suit.

>> katie: why don't you wear it? perfect for the weather report. >> juan: it was a political statement. the border wall debate, and that is heating up again as the president sends more troops to the border. stay with us. i can't tell you who i am or what i witnessed, but i can tell you liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no... only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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and these democrats. i will tell you why. if you hit me with facts and testimonials and logic, i will change my position on things. >> katie: are you changing it? >> jesse: no. not on the border wall. i haven't been convinced. but on things like sweaters, i have changed my opinion and things like guns or gay marriage or military commitments. i am open minded. the democrats, no matter how many facts you explain, they don't move. it leads me to think if they don't want to wall because they don't want to -- they don't want to secure the border. you cannot say you are for border security and be against barriers in certain designated areas. juan, i wanted to read you two things from a failing "new york times." this is not fake news when i cite it. when barriers were built in yuma, arizona, the arrests for illegals crossing plummeted 94% also when they were built in

san diego in the 90s. arrests fell 80% over seven years. when the times makes a logical case for it, it has to make sense. >> katie: i have a question about that, juan. the president sending more troops. 6000 to 2400, he's going to be sending more. three caravans coming. tens of thousands of people, what is the solution to stopping that from just invading the country. >> juan: the first two caravans never invaded. caravan man. he said these things have terrorists in them. they've got disease. nothing, nothing, nothing. >> katie: here's my question. >> juan: i want to answer your question. i think the democrats are open-minded. saying that we need border security. jesse sometimes says to me they voted for border security before. now they are -- >> katie: what are they willing to do now? >> jesse: what other ways to use and cure the border besides

fencing? don't say drone, juan. drones watch them cross. they don't stop them from crossing. >> juan: it's like you are in the 1800s. i want to bring you to the 21st century. >> jesse: what is a smart wall? >> juan: technology, sensors. >> jesse: sensors! someone in a lab 40 miles away goes we have sensed people crossing. that doesn't secure the border. >> juan: you add security, add border. you deal with the reality. the crisis at the border is a humanitarian crisis of desperate people. >> jesse: you said there was no crisis! >> juan: there is no national emergency. >> greg: it's not an emergency. it's a crisis. >> katie: but it's not a crisis. >> juan: it's not a national emergency of an invasion. >> katie: based on the conversation, dana, do you think the commission is going to be

able to come up with some kind of compromise the white house is willing to sign. >> dana: no one wants a shut down again. i don't think they are actually going to come to something the president will accept. he will never be satisfied and they are always going to try him to deny him something. he sending the troops. he's the commander-in-chief. it sets him up to have a national emergency that i think he will declare on february 15. >> juan: republicans -- >> dana: i know they don't like it. he's mad because the priorities for the first two years were not the wall. they went with health care. it's not just on the republicans in congress. the white house can dictate what they want to have happen. they are in the event of a fix. >> greg: i have a suggestion that no one will take. wouldn't it be great if the media agreed to stop covering this? let's just say for two weeks.

we call cnn and msnbc. we say look. we are going to stop covering this whole thing because we realize that this polarization is generated by us. the media is convincing both sides. the democrats don't want to make a deal because they are following the media's idea that if you compromise, you cave. we saw that when chum compromise, he caved. he said he would reopen the government. after calling him an auto cracked, then when he compromises, they call him weak and they mocked him. you realize most of this if not all of this is dictated by the media. wherever the media goes, it poisons all discussion. >> jesse: except "the five." >> greg: we talk about stuff. the thing is it's not about policy. it's about showing the media, showing morning show that you can give it to mr. orange meany. you showed him you can stand up to trump. that's what's happening. if you subtracted the media, if

we all shut up on this for two weeks, there would be progress. >> dana: it's true. in the white house briefing room, if you took cameras out, you would not have a problem. you could do a briefing every day. >> greg: take me up on that offer, media. >> dana: i am in. >> juan: the stony caravan coverage, stop it. >> greg: we say "the five" won't do the segment at all. >> juan: look at jesse. he's in pain. >> jesse: what else are we going to cover? >> katie: negative 40 degrees. stay right there. wild card wednesday is up next. my experience with usaa has been excellent. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? we know their rates are good, we know that they're always going to take care of us. it was an instant savings and i should have changed a long time ago. it was funny because when we would call another insurance company, hey would say "oh we can't beat usaa" we're the webber family. we're the tenney's we're the hayles,

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♪ >> dana: it's wild card wednesday. ♪ we each chose a topic and put them in this hat. none of us knows the story each other picked. i didn't even cheat. wild card wednesday. bad handwriting causing a big problem in the u.s. this is mine. new study finds wanted to people been told by others to their handwriting is hard to read. the average person has had at least two instances of that. the study found 45% of people struggled through their own

handwriting. we are losing the art of handwriting. >> greg: have you ever try to write a check? it's impossible very >> dana: this is my handwriting on my edit. my assistant had a terrible time. here are -- i will read them to you. >> juan: do you know who has had good handwriting? john bolton. >> dana: 5,000 troops. >> jesse: i wrote a check the other day that they handwriting is so bad, they called me up. the bank denied it. >> greg: they denied mine too! because of my handwriting. isn't it incredible? you shouldn't even exist. >> dana: okay. elizabeth warren. >> juan: i get a lot of complements signing books. people think i have good handwriting. >> katie: my handwriting can be good if i slow down. >> dana: making little notes. >> katie: the more we type. >> dana: next story.

3-year-old boy lost in the woods has a bear kept him company. 3-year-old casey hathaway has been found unharmed after going missing the north carolina woods and claims that a bear kept him company in the woods. how would a 3-year-old novak? >> greg: either it was bret baier or it's a lie. >> dana: he's only three. >> greg: maybe it was a hairy hobo. >> dana: rainy, negative 20. police say they don't have direct evidence that a bear was there. it is sweet that he thinks that. >> greg: he may have dreamed it. i've done that. when you were a kid, did you ever have a dream that you thought was real. >> dana: that the hospital burned down when i got strep throat. >> greg: i dreamed that our garbage truck turned over in front of my house and it never happened. >> katie: i had a dream that there was a t-rex and my window. >> jesse: i don't share with my dreams with other people. i think it shows weakness. makes me feel vulnerable.

i will level never tell anybody dreams. >> juan: what about me? just between us. >> dana: ready for the next one. americans spent 240 hours a year thinking about food. new study finds americans think about food an average of four times a day and spend 40 minutes a day purely thinking about food, adding up to more than 240 per year. the study also said some of the most craved foods, chocolate, cheese, strawberries. bacon. there is no bacon on this table. greg, who stories this. >> katie: it was mine. every day he's like i need to figure out what to eat for dinner. >> greg: almost all of your life is about food. you wake up in the window.

you probably think about food more than you think about anything, except for one thing. [laughter] a >> juan: i'm glad he set it. pretty obvious. steve work as you get older, you start thinking more about food. [laughter] >> katie: you have to think about what's in your food. what are you going to have to eat tonight? >> greg: i am thinking about ordering a big piece of meat. >> jesse: and then getting dinner? [laughter] >> dana: all right. next story. program pays workers $10,000 to move to vermont and work remotely. recently started in 2019, the remote worker grant program. you can get paid $5,000 a year for two years if you moved to vermont and work remotely for an out-of-state employer. the state's budget has set aside funds to cover 100 grants for the first three years. would you do this? >> greg: jesse remotely works. >> jesse: this is my story. i don't even get that joke. i think working remotely is a total scam. everyone knows it's a scam.

it's a scam. you can't tell if your employees actually working or if they are at home watching tv. working remotely is a total rip-off to the employer. >> greg: wearing a bracelet that shows whether you are working or not. >> juan: you have to produce. >> jesse: you don't know what they are doing. >> greg: people do need offices. i shouldn't be eating right now. getting up in the morning, going to an office feels good. it's an esteemed builder. sit down, have a different place in your home. getting up in the morning, showering, shaving, that's a process. >> katie: companies now saving tens of thousands of dollars. >> jesse: i think it is desperate for vermont to do this. >> juan: they are not the only one. there are lots of states that want to encourage people to come to their community. >> greg: media bloggers all work at home.

>> dana: this is not the only state to do this. my last one, fight between angry neighbors caught on camera. oh, my god. >> juan: if greg and i moved next door to each other. this is what happened. watch the wife. watch the wife get involved. initially she is a peacekeeper. now she goes back in the house. watch what happens next. here comes the wife. she is in it now. she's throwing stuff. she threw the broom. this is in england. >> greg: of course it is. >> jesse: they don't have guns guns. >> juan: that's a good thing. >> dana: maybe someone had a few pints. >> greg: it's what happens when you live right on top of each other. >> dana: i thought fences made better neighbors. >> greg: they need a wall. >> dana: "one more thing" is up next. >> greg: that was good.

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♪ >> juan: you guys know i love love songs. it felt to me like part of the soundtrack of my life was lost today when i found out james ingram has died. here he is singing one of his many hits, "baby come to me" with patty austin. ♪ ♪ you know love is standing by your side ♪ ♪ >> juan: he's not as known as other r&b crooners but he won the grammy twice and he also cowrote a pretty young thing one of michael jackson's biggest hits and he was a starting voice in "we are the world." quincy jones said his voice was

soulful and simply magical. rest in peace. >> dana: you may have heard i did an interview this morning with howard schultz, he's the former ceo of starbucks and if there is an extended version on foxnews.com and i asked him what i thought was an interesting question. he had a tough relationship with his father, he said he didn't forgive him for many decades because of this one incident where his dad beat him up. he said it was decades later he was able to forgive him and here is one of the reasons why. >> he was a broken man, he never found purpose or dignity of work and he was devalued in the workplace and i think he thought he was kind of a victim. at times he was in a rage about that. everything i tried to do at starbucks was trying to build a kind of company he never got to work for by providing dignity and respect for people. >> dana: they ended up working a lot with veterans that he

realized his dad who served in world war ii probably suffered from ptsd and that's why he was able to forgive him. >> jesse: speaking of dads. here's a dad on a trampoline with his son, look at this crazy video. >> three, two, one. [bleep] >> jesse: the kid is fine. >> juan: he missed the kid. >> jesse: don't worry, the kid is okay. >> greg: my podcast is up go to foxnewspodcast.com, it's a fun interview.

fox nation if you belong to that i've got mike baker, we talk about venezuela, roger stone, you name it, it's fun. end. ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great , they can scratch them skills and the ski. he's got the scratch that stomach, he scratches his stomach and then he decides to go downhill. that's like me walking home from the bar. >> katie: the new england patriots as we all know especially jesse are set to face off against the rams in the super bowl and we may have found the biggest patriots fan around. the o'connell family is taking home not honor after naming their son brady after tom brady, they have a new baby on the way

and they plan on naming her tom, she is due two days before the super bowl. tom brady should go visit them when they have a baby, great p.r. >> greg: special report is up next. >> bret: the governor of virginia is accused of supporting extreme abortion rights as other state legislators battle over abortion. negotiators try to keep the government open past february 15th and a captured isis commander offers no apology for his actions, we will take you to syria. this is "special report." ♪ good evening and welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. the commonwealth of virginia is at the center of a whirlwind of abortion backlash tonight. the democratic governor is being accused of supporting infanticide by pro-life groups as across