much everything and stealing your choice that having health care. they are pro-choice except kamala harris would take away your choice in health care. we are not the hate-trump media. we will be fair and balanced. tweet us your question. hannity.com. let not your heart be troubled. laura ingraham. >> laura: do you know when "i got you babe" was released? and who rotate? >> sean: i know that i am the bridge between two generations at fox. i'm the older guy. i've been here since day one. but i'm not that old and i don't care. >> laura: it was iconic. they say our love won't pay the rent. once the next line? >> sean: i have no clue. do you think i listen to cher? do you think i listen to that? >> laura: it's iconic. "before it's earned, our money has all been spent." how do not know this?

what have you been doing? >> sean: have you lost your mind tonight? >> laura: i like mixing it up. mueller, mueller, miller, shutdown, shutdown. after focus on fun stuff sometimes. >> sean: i will bring you my five favorite all-time anthem songs and they will surprise you. some of them are by liberals. anthem songs. >> laura: you were always big into the bengals in the '80s. "walking on sunshine." that wasn't the bangles. that was belinda carlisle. i've got it. i've got it. >> sean: you are being mean. >> laura: i'm laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle" from washington. chris christie will be her life in the second half of the show. two segments. he's done a lot of interviews but he hasn't laid out how trump can win in 2020. and whether in fact he might just end up eventually having the rollback with president trump, either in that

campaign or who knows, the white house. i'm going to press him. new segment on the show coming up. this is your country on liberalism. the frigid city of portland, maine, overrun, yes, by asylum-seekers. former governor of maine paul lepage was called racist over his concern about illegal immigration and the asylum issue when he was governor. he is here tonight to react and maybe say see i told you so. first, trump versus the party of democrats. that's the party of tonight's angle. democrats seem awfully cocky lately. since winning the house in november and forcing trump's hand on the shutdown, they feel like they are on a glide path to 2020. every other day it's a litany of smugness from the resistance. 21 months out from the election of course they are practically calling the race already. they hope the sheer volume of

the negative headlines about mueller and the showdown with pelosi and schumer, they are all going to take their toll. objective reporting of course is the last thing on their minds because that would require a focus on the smashing success of the trump economy. which is far and away the strongest in the world. what is their goal? to demoralize trump's base. "the washington post" delivers dour headlines like this: walls around trump our crumbling. evangelicals may be his last resort. why bother dissecting the genius of trump's maneuvers with china on trade when you can assign some slack to write headlines like this. white evangelical support for president trump slips in the midst of the government shutdown. think about it. while the president's approval numbers may have taken a hit during the shutdown, the president's numbers were identical before and after the shutdown, unlike pelosi, who actually lost support during the

shutdown battle. so my prediction. the more full of themselves the democrats get, the more voters learn about this new breed of radical zealots. the left is going to want to roll the dice with this crowd and the more they will start to appreciate president trump. if the bright lights of the pundit class think evangelicals are going to abandon the g.o.p. and trump, they are suffering from delusions of electoral grandeur. democrats have completely misread what happened in november. they captured one house of congress, handily of course. this doesn't mean the american people are willing to ditch capitalism for socialism or that they have abandoned totally their core humanity. for cold convenience. but i will tell you, many democrats have. like virginia state delegate kathy tran. pressed here by house majority leader in virginia about her latest abortion bill.

>> where it's obvious that a woman is about to give birth, she has physical signs that she's about to give birth, with that still be a point at which she could request an abortion if she was so certified? she's dilating. >> mr. chairman, that would be, you know, a decision that the doctor, the physician and the woman. >> i understand that. i'm asking if your bill allows that. >> my bill would allow that, yes. >> laura: absolutely barbaric and sick. tran is a cosponsor of the repeal act which would eliminate all restrictions on late-term abortions. here is virginia governor ralph northam. he's also a pediatric neurologist by the way which is extra thick, endorsing this bil bill. >> if a mother is in labor, i can tell you exactly what would

happen. the infant would be delivered. the incident would be kept comfortable. the infant big resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother. speak to dr. mendel i would be proud. you would be arrested if you did any of that to a dog in virginia, by the way. the infanticide movement, always cynically disguises reproductive health, it is spreading. it was given a standing ovation in albany just last week. >> the bill is passed. [applause] >> laura: and now rhode island is jumping on the carnage express, as the woman says she will sign a pro partial-birth

abortion bill into law. when rolando was sworn into office, she pledged to be a "beacon of hope." more like a harbinger of death. again, this is in america. this is the democratic party decomposing for all to see. while a good chunk of trump voters, they may get tired of some of his tweets. i get it. or they just want him to dial back the drama on occasion, it's really hard to see how independents in any way, shape, or form are going to cozy up to this democrat party. >> do you agree that it is possible for men to both be friends with some women and treat other women badly? >> i will do whatever the committee wants. the witness -- >> i have not heard you answer. very specific question that's been asked. i don't want to debate with you how they do their business.

>> i plan to. >> laura: that was the kavanaugh hearing. she kept interrupting. incredibly bullish and rude to the associate justice of the supreme court and she -- that was her big audition for the big time. they do not, the american people, want to do things like tear down history in the middle of the night either, anymore than they want to blame men for things that happen 30 years ago that no one is witness to. they don't want to ban fossil fuels. they don't want medicare for all of it means bankrupting the entire system. they don't ration care and raising taxes. >> you come out with as well tax idea which doesn't have a history in the u.s., unlike the top marginal rate. >> laura: they don't want traditional religious organizations to be branded as hate groups, which kamala harris, by the way, trying to pull a few weeks ago and she

chided judicial nominee brian bowsher for being a member of the knights of columbus, a group opposed to abortion, a catholic organization. who can forget this moment? >> the dogma lives loudly within you. >> laura: [laughs] that was a gem. this is not the democratic party of jfk. he actually believed in religious liberty and he believed in low taxes and a robust military, et cetera, et cetera. so, my friends, next time someone tells you it's all over for trump, just remember the full effects and the start costs of the democrat agenda are just now coming to light for many americans. they say that there are two kosher and things in life: deatd taxes. but do you really want to be a party that advocates for both? that's the angle. joining me now with reaction, to the war on religion, in the democratic party is bill donohue, president of the

catholic league. bill, why do you think the democratic party today is so bent on removing all limitations on abortion. it used to be safe, legal, and rare. now it is full on embrace of infanticide, and many roman catholic politicians, i might add, advocating for it. >> secular militants run the democratic party. the organization after '68 is in full force. now you have in new york, a situation where podiatrists and dentists and optometrists and chiropractors are now allowed to perform late-term abortions in new york under governor cuomo. in virginia, you have a man who is justifying infanticide. the american people, by the way, do not know what's happening here. i live in new york. they didn't tell everybody here in new york what was happening. the way they opposed it was saying this is going to codify roe v. wade.

no, no, no. you are talking about partial-birth abortion. you're talking about allowing a child to die on a table unattended if he survives a botched abortion. you're talking about nam physicians performing abortions. it will be the women that kamala harris likes to champion. black and hispanic women. every white woman who gets an abortion in new york i guarantee you will have a doctor. >> laura: i want to get to what the president reacted to in the virginia news. the sound bite from governor governor northam, i can't even speak when i see it because it's so outrageous. it reminded me that he predicted this, in a way, didn't he? this is what he said in the big debate in 2016. >> if you go with what hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother. just prior to the birth of the

baby. you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month, on the final day. that's not acceptable. >> well, that's not what happens in these cases. >> laura: that's not what happens in these cases. trump was right, and all of us were watching at the time were cheering it when he said because he spoke the truth. he is speaking more truth there then frankly, i know you are past with dolan, but he is speaking more forthrightly, bill, then dolan on this issue. this is on sirius xm radio earlier today. >> the far right is criticizing me because they said that dolan, he is too conciliatory. he ought to get rid of the governor. he ought to excommunicate him. that would be completely counterproductive. i don't have much clout. some fat, balding irish bishop. >> laura: canon nine: 16 or canon nine: 34.

automatic excommunication for the truth for advocating grave sin or a person persevering in grave sin of a public nature. if what -- is northam roman catholic? what these guys are doing, i don't get it. why doesn't the catholic church do something? there is no penalty in the view of the catholic church. you can't blame the kids for thinking it's unknow big deal. >> there is another candidate who deals specifically with abortion. you have to be engaged in performing this ugly procedure. i know cuomo would like to be excommunicated. he could claim martyrdom status. the real question here is why are we allowing in this country a debate. why don't we have a debate about taking a scissors and jamming it into the skull of a child who is 80% board. that's what partial-birth abortion is. if he survives, you don't have to attend to him.

what i hear in virginia, with the governor said, it's up to the mother and the physician to decide. >> laura: keep the baby comfortable. keep the infant comfortable until we kill the infant. anyone watching this in the commonwealth of virginia, i don't care if you are religious, not religious, how can we countenance this as a people? this is today's democratic party. it is shocking. not in the first three months of pregnancy. a lot of people things are okay then. if you're a catholic, you're not supposed to but a lot of people do. that's not it. this is a fully formed human being in the womb getting no protection. >> everybody knows that at least in the third trimester that the child feels pain. there is no question about it. in this case where the governor of virginia is so wrong, it's not up to the mother and the physician. you have an inalienable right. you have an inalienable right to life. that's not up for debate. it's not up for a poll. >> laura: it's also murder. i'm sorry but the virginia statute. they have to change the statute.

if they don't want -- they've got to change the statute. we have to change a lot of statutes. bill, we've got to go. thank you for joining us. how badly, by the way, have the latest moves by the left to damage them ahead of 2020? the green agenda, medicare for all, bankrupting the country, high taxes, bringing in more illegal immigrants. we all have to pay the tab. they were in one house chamber and suddenly they want to turn america into mad max meets cuba, venezuela. we just told you about their blatant support for infanticide. do democratic leaders really feel like centrist america are favoring them? entering private health insurance, abolishing gas powered vehicles, cutting the military in half. that where we are? joining me know dan bongino and former aide to senator chuck schumer, chris hahn. chris, are you worried about your party going over the edge here? forget going over to the skis. going to the dark side. you heard the north and bite.

i want you to react specifically. i am horrified. >> the northam bite has to be out of context. if it's not, there's something wrong. once the baby is born, the baby is born. i'm not going to go down that road. i've read a lot of stories about this preparing for this interview. i didn't hear anything like that or read anything like that. it has to be out of context. i don't believe the governor virginia wants to kill born babies. >> laura: it's not out of context. i didn't bring you on the show tonight to play something, acute edited thing. that's not what we do. we have new york, this is infanticide. these are fully formed babies in the middle. hillary clinton at that debate with trump scoffed at the notion that you kill babies at nine months. scoffed. everyone was laughing at trump when he said that except for evangelicals and devout catholics and people of faith and conscience. >> the thing you played, the baby was out of the womb. >> laura: didn't you hear him?

keep the infant comfortable. >> i heard him. >> laura: so if the bite is real. >> i don't know if he knew what he was talking about. >> laura: then he shouldn't be governor of the great commonwealth, thomas jefferson of virginia. he shouldn't be governor. >> laura. >> laura: we can talk medicare for all. we can talk these issues, green agenda. this is something that should be beyond debate. we would be seeing peta chaining themselves to peoples houses if they did this to a puppy or a cat. okay? you do this to a little baby and suddenly planned parenthood throws you more money or you get a standing ovation in albany or rhode island. this can't be our country. >> laura, god help us all. chris, i know you. i know you off the air. i know you better than this. this is a black-and-white moment. this isn't a joke. it's not a cutesy debate where me and you go back and forth. this is -- let me talk for a

minute. i'm not here to attack you on this. that was -- laura did not manipulate that. that was the governor of one of the most powerful states in the union are doing in unmanipulated piece of video that an infant, a breathing child, should be made comfortable while the decision is made. what decision are you suggestin suggesting? this is the governor of virginia. the man is a medical doctor. this is not a stupid man. chris, i'm serious. you are a friend of mine off the air. this is a moral clarity. i am pro-life. conception, until natural death. even if you are pro-abortion, this is savage brutality. someone like you should come out on this network and say this is just wrong, period, full stop. >> let me respond. i am pro-choice but once the baby is born, there is no choice. it's a baby. it's alive. we should take care of that baby. i don't know what he was saying, what he was referring to, if he

understood the question asked him. we will have to see and he will have to respond to what that is. i don't think there's a person -- i don't think these a person in america who is saying who would say a living breathing baby, there's a choice. >> laura: this is where -- we could spend an hour on this. whether the baby is out of the weather mother's womb is a millimeter out of the mother's womb, this is a fully formed human being. babies have an 80% of surviving in six months, let alone nine months. we have all met beautiful premade babies that are inventing things, that our amazing volunteers, the do great things in the country. which of them shouldn't be here today? it's beyond our ability to decide these things. these are people with their own unique dna, their own personhood, their own ability to be. no one is advocating for them. that's why i'm doing this show. people say this stuff doesn't rate on tv. i don't care if it doesn't rate.

this is who we are as a people. this is who we are as a people. if we allow this to happen, we might as well forget the conversation about tax reform because really doesn't matter. we'll move on to another topic. >> the bill in question here is about the health of the mother. >> laura: mental health? economic health? >> all of those decisions should be between a woman and her doctor. >> laura, laura. that's not right. laura, chris knows that. you talk to a professional ob-gyn, they will tell you. my brother-in-law is a pairing ecologist. there aren't any medical conditions that require an abortion in the ninth month of pregnancy. come on, chris, you know that. don't come on the air with nonsense like that. >> laura: paul bacall, not that she's a smart guy. he was assessing where the democrat party is today. we all know they are all resisting trump. he said this. let's watch.

>> i think it's going to be difficult to analyze the democratic primary in a right-left continual. the truth is there's not that much difference between the most moderate democrat of the most liberal democratic. when democrats are looking for things like charisma, talent, heart. >> laura: right. >> if the election was held today, kamala harris would be elected. if scholz got in the race, donald trump would come in third. i think the democratic party has moved to the left and i think that's a good thing. and i think there's a lot of overreaction on the right to some things that are very popular in this country, like health care, like education. >> laura: ration care. >> there are things people want. >> laura: dan, ten seconds. >> they are not popular, chris. medicare for all his only popular until you tell people what the price tag is. doubling their taxes. then you know what happens? eighth-graders are 37%.

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>> this is drugs. this is your brain on drugs. any questions? >> laura: yeah, i love that old psa back in the '70s. well, this is liberalism. this is your country on liberalism. well, it's kind of has the same effect. it fries it all up. i don't think the left realizes what sort of them impact their insane policies are having on the real middle-class working americans. people who don't want any special recognition. they just want to get up in the morning, go to work, make a decent living, and got home, maybe crack open a beer. take for instance portland, maine. it's pretty far up on the border. they shouldn't be impacted, right, by the illegal immigration crisis. well, wrong. "the wall street journal" is reporting that the city is being overrun by asylum-seekers. to the point where they are taking up 90% of portland's family shelters.

and city assistance for them is drying up. in fact, 75% of all population growth they saw between 2011 and 2016 was from foreign-born individuals. this is wild. for anyone who's spent time in portland, and it's cold up there tonight, that's wild. former governor of maine, paul lepage, warned about this years ago and he was called every nasty name under the sun as a result, all the usual. racist, xenophobic, blah, blah, blah. he joins me now. governor, how does this influx of asylum-seekers, now there's some from central america. they are also refugees from africa. different status. how does this affect everyday citizens, as i like to call them, the maniacs in portland? >> laura, what it really does, it takes away from the disabled, the elderly, people with intellectual disabilities. they are pushed aside. they are put on waiting lists. and the money goes to

asylum-seekers and undocumented citizens, people who come to the state of maine. that's been going on for years. when i was governor, we had a litigation against the city of portland for that exact reason. when the economy started getting better, i removed all the wait lists. there was 4200 people on wait list. we budgeted for it totally, balanced budget paid for it. the democrats came in, took the money, and put the people back on a wait-list. they are still there now on a wait-list. people who have lived their lives in maine are now without services and their aging years or with their disabilities, and particularly the one that is the most upsetting his intellectual disabilities have gone by the wayside. >> laura: okay, so those are mental health issues and so forth. a lot of people who come after

the great resection, 2008, they still haven't gotten a leg up, even with the improved economy. maine has always had some struggles in that area. i want to play something from you, this is back in a town hall you did in 2018 and the reaction from the crowd. watch. 2016, sorry. >> i call them asylum seekers are the biggest problem in our state. >> shame on you. [people yelling] >> laura: shame on you, they were screaming. >> i recall. i recall. i think the speaker of the house was there that evening. >> laura: well, what are they saying now? look at this. we have a situation, according to the statistics today, in portland. 65 to 70% of 1,000 people now receiving general assistance are noncitizens. did everyone hear that?

65 652x70% of the people receivg government assistance are noncitizens. the city budgets of about $200,000 annually to fill in gaps for asylum-seekers who don't qualify for general assistance, such as those who haven't yet found an application. so you haven't filed and they are reaching out to give you money in portland. this is the democratic party. this is a state that is now democrat-controlled, democrat, is the state legislature still run by democrats? >> that's correct. and the governor, the incumbent governor, when she's governor-elect, she said i will invite asylum-seekers to come to maine and i will give them services. well, if you invite, they will come. >> laura: when i think of all these other cities that are considering more generous policies towards both asylum-seekers, refugees, again,

different story. what do you say to them, given maine's own experience? think i would say that if you have the resources and you feel compassionate for these folks, go ahead and do it. but if you're going to be taking resources, very, very important resources for your citizens, then you are making a big mistake. >> laura: well, again, 90% of the people living in portland, city-run family shelter, overflow shelter are people who are asylum-seekers overwhelmingly, i guess, still from africa, correct? because that's correct, from africa. >> laura: i don't get the africa -- the somalis all went to minnesota. then they went to maine? the two climates. [laughs] i don't get it. i don't get how that's the place where everybody goes. what is that?

>> i don't know. but i will say this. the one thing that nobody is talking about right now, there talking about the resources being eaten up by temporary housing, i will tell you when they get into housing, you should see the disgraceful housing that these people are being put into in the city of portland. i visited this housing. it was housing that i was brought up in which gives me nightmares. >> laura: okay. >> my whole entire life. it's terrible. >> laura: governor, you are seeing a total transformation of new england cities and lawrence, massachusetts, another one. it's happening all across new england. portland brought it on itself and people are going to be left to pick up the pieces. governor, think you so much. in a somewhat related story of how liberalism does damage under the guise of compassion, i don't know why it's called liberalism. it's kind of a liberal when you thing about it. were going to take you to florida. the sunshine state is also teaming with new immigrant

children that not only need to be educated but need to learn the english language. like all new immigrants. to combat this issue, they aren't establishing more rigorous requirements to graduate. but they are considering "alternate pathways for immigrants" to get their high school diploma. i was always taught to raise the bar for people but now they want to lower the bar because there is such a big influx of immigrants. representative susan valdes, democrat from tampa, has even proposed to establish test scores substitutes for students who cannot pass any of the versions currently allowed. i wish they had that when i was a kid. in other words, the objective standard by which most american students are assessed have been deemed by some to be unfair because some of the kids can't keep up with the material. we've heard that from teachers in the past. a couple nights ago, we defended tom brokaw against the completely unfair pylon that he

received following his objection that immigrants communities better assimilate to immunity's. like the brokaw critics, the florida lawmakers failed to realize that the immigrant communities they wished to serve are hamstrung, held back by lowering standards. also insulting their abilities in limiting their potential in the process. immigrants should be challenged to rise in america, given the opportunity to do so but not given a diploma for staying down. all right, coming up, chris christie is here life for the rest of the show. this is going to be fun. does the former new jersey governor really think he'd be a better president than trump? his thoughts and the latest interview by the president and a letter lindsey graham just sent the fbi about roger stone and the raid. stay there. oh! oh!

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>> laura: we are very happy to have my next guest live for the remainder of the show. we have a lot to run through. his new book is titled "let me finish." it's in bookstores everywhere. governor chris christie, thank you to much for being here. congrats on the new book. you've been on every show except like farm tools weekly. >> [laughs] >> laura: what is this? what are we here question mike that's all right, i have some questions. is >> i can't believe i'm not on farm tools weekly. >> laura: get the p.r. person

on it. all right, i want is something you said on colbert last night. if you don't come on my show first, i'm going to have to really be mean to you. just teasing. let's take a look. >> do you regret -- >> i made a decision at the time i thought he was going to win the nomination after i dropped out of the night i preferred him to hillary clinton. that's why i made the decision. it wasn't a whole lot more complicated than that. i still agree with what his policies are more than i agree with hillary clinton. he has turned the republican party into something different than when i started to run for president. >> laura: would you consider that something different good or bad, ultimately for the g.o.p., governor? >> in some ways good and in some ways bad, from my perspective. in the good ways he's turned it, i think his toughness on china has been something that the party needed for quite some time, and i think his continued efforts in that regard.

his continued efforts and trade in general i think are good and he's gotten much better better deal with canada and mexico than we had before. i think those same things with the eeo. and with japan. i think he's been better for us in terms of our regulatory policies and is put more focus than we were putting on one we control congress and could have done more there too. on regulatory issues. in the places where i disagree, i think their times, in foreign policy where he asked impulsively. whether it's discussions about syria and the crosscurrents involved there. i think you should take a more collaborative approach. i think he is now taking a more deliberative approach. listen, in the main, i would say he's made a party better because he won. he beat hillary clinton. >> laura: do you think, you know, i've been a big fan of yours for a long time. everyone who's listen to my interviews with you on the radio know that. do you think you could have

beaten hillary clinton in ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin, although states? >> yes. >> laura: you do? >> i absolutely do. >> laura: because of your positions on trade, immigration? the things that motivated those voters to turn out. obviously had the money raised. >> there's no question that i think hillary clinton was an extraordinary flawed candidate and she needed someone who was going to be direct and go at her. and call her out on all the things that she had done as secretary of state and the things she was proposing and how preposterous they were. the way we would lose clinton is if we had a candidate who was not direct, who is not blunt, who was part of the old guard, whether that was jeb bush or marco rubio or scott walker. i don't know that those guys would've been able to pull it off because they would've been more pc. >> laura: they weren't entombed to the party. i'm getting you caught in a prosecutorial trap and you don't

even know it. that's why i love having you on. [laughs] so look, i asked you whether the party went into a good or bad direction and you said the old guard wouldn't have beaten hillary. you are absolutely right. they couldn't win their home state, governor. they couldn't win florida. they couldn't win their key states. mitt romney couldn't win michigan. they couldn't win. the new guy comes in and says i think all your policies have been wrong on trade. he thinks that foreign policy had been too interventionist in iraq and other parts of the middle east. we have upset the apple cart there. i think the people, that really got their attention because people are very war-weary, whether it's syria. they are very war-where he appeared we have 2,000 troops in syria. everyone wants to knock the crap out of isis and trump's leg where are our guys still getting killed there? the parties turned was in the

right direction under trump, and i think you were closer to that than those other guys. >> in the main, i say it was important because the biggest thing he did was win. those areas in foreign policy where i've disagreed with him at times and i may be evermore aggressive, interventionist policy than he had, i don't think that would've determined the laws of the election to me when contrasted to hillary clinton. in the end, doesn't matter. he was the nominee. i was the first person to go out and support him. you were telling me i should do that. and i went out and i did it. i think, you know, that represented a big moment in the campaign, someone who had been seen as part of the mainstream because i was a governor, even though a very different kind of governor in a blue state, you know, i think that was a big turning point in the primary campaign which i believed he was going to win. even more important, for the general election. >> laura: we are going to get into more of what might be in your future down the road.

i want to play something from him today or yesterday may be. this is chuck schumer talking about these border negotiations that are ongoing, perhaps to avert another government shutdown. let's watch. >> we have come to big agreements before on budgets and russian sanctions. what was the common theme? when the president stays out of the negotiations, we almost always succeed. when he mixes in, it's a formula for failure. i would ask president trump, let congress deal with it on its own. >> laura: what about schumer, your old nemesis? >> the reason he doesn't want donald trump involved is because he wants to try to rollover congressional republicans. i just think the idea, you know, i used to have a saying in trenton that there were only three important numbers in trenton. 41, 21, 1. 41 votes in the lower house, 21 in the upper house, and one which was the signature of the governor. it's the same thing with different numbers in the congress.

if you don't have the president involves, you're not going to come to a solution. so the idea that he wants to keep the president out i think it's very machiavellian in his part. he doesn't want the toughest guy in the room at the table. he wants to roll some people. i think the president has to be involved. any negotiation without the president is doomed for failure because he won't agree. >> laura: i thought it was ludicrous. when someone has their glasses down on their nose, they are a lot more credible and believable. i stop and listen. governor, stay with us. when we come back, what does governor christie think trump needs to do to win reelection in 2020? he's going to tell us. and the importance of the ninth circuit nominees who were announced today by the white house, up next. hottest taqueria? and the hottest...what are those? oh, pierogis? and this is the avery's wondering if eating out is eating into saving for their first home.

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>> laura: back with me now is chris christie. i want to start with your appearance on colbert again last night and an interesting comment you made on your book tour. let's watch. >> joined me on this one. good question. here we go. [cheers and applause] >> would you have been a better president than trump?

>> yes. >> i like that. >> laura: okay. so a lot of modesty, a lot of tequila. i like it. obviously, last night on colbert. what does trump need to do to win in 2020? are the democrats, we started the show by talking about the lurch to the left of the democratic party. infanticide, green energy. are the left helping trump now as we move into the election cycle? >> they are significantly helping him by continuing to move to the left, putting people like alexandria ocasio-cortez out in front, being a spokeswoman for the party, talking about a 70% tax rate, kamala harris talking about eliminating health insurance companies and having insurance for all. let's not forget our friend howard schultz, i'm going to get a t-shirt made up that says run, howard, run." get in there, run as an independent.

all those things are process things that are helping to shape the landscape to make the contrast even better. what you want in an election politically is a great contrast. you had a great contrast between donald trump and hillary clinton. that's what we want again. we don't want people to muddle things up in the middle. we want contrast. do you want a socialist society or do you want a capitalistic society? do you want a society that respects life or do you want a society that denigrates alive? do you want a society that gives opportunity for everybody, or were government controls everything? donald trump has to be able to draw that picture very starkly and clearly. the democrats, doing what they are doing, are going to help them. he needs to get better people around him. so many of the mistakes in the first two years of this administration, and i write about this in the book, have been unforced errors. unnecessary errors by people who don't have the experience in washington, d.c. it's great to be a disrupter. i was a disrupter in trenton. i was a disrupter in washington.

but i also need to have people around me and he needs to people around him. me as a former prosecutor, him as a businessman, that understands the politics of the capital. it helps to avoid some of this unforced errors like government shutdowns. >> laura: chris. i think i should call you governor, even though you're my friend. governor, i think you are making the case for you to be the chief of staff. everybody knows i pushed for you to be chief of staff. i talked about it on radio, truly did about it. i'm not getting into kushner. i think it's pointless to talk about and everyone has headed to death and it's boring for my viewers. my viewers want to know, chris christie is no nonsense. you've known trump for all these years. you have a good managerial sense. you are no-nonsense, and you can take criticism. i've seen you take criticism because i've given it to you and you actually listen to people. would you consider going into the white house as a chief of staff or even managing the 2020 reelection campaign for this

president? i have always told the president that when he calls, i will answer the phone and i will listen to what he has to offer. i always have and i always will. for two reasons. one because i love my country. i can't imagine a country governed by the liberal democrats out there running. and two come he's my friend and i'm loyal to my friends. >> laura: eva counted that you don't feel like he was loyal to you. >> he wasn't. >> laura: that's in the book. i've read it all. it's a lesson in humility. you are a big personality but you had to humble yourself. we all have gone through those moments. that's in the book. >> the book talks about the ups and downs of my life. when you get knocked down it's about getting up and fighting for the things that you believe and in your heart, literature family, whether it's because you believe in, philanthropic cause or whether it's your country. while those things are things worth fighting for and it's

never a straight line up, laura. it hasn't been for me. not for you. you know for us, we are fighters. i'm going to fight, and if the president asked me to fight for him, i will always listen to a request to fight for my president on my country. >> laura: to the book get in the way of you becoming chief of staff? that would've been kind of awkward if the book were coming out. >> know because if i had accepted chief of staff at that time, the book would not have come out and that was part of the deal. >> laura: i want to talk about a report in "the wall street journal" at the white house counsel was cutting some secret deal with the democrats that would've ensure they would've gotten a liberal pick as a compromise on the ninth circuit. we learned today, and i learned today that this was all complete, you know bowl, you know what. tonight it was confirmed that the president announced his intention to nominate the stars in the ninth circuit. daniel collins, daniel bress,

and kenneth lee. two of them were scalia clerks. they are phenomenal. why is it so important -- the president has done well on judges. why is it so important to this ninth circuit is not allowed to become a runaway, you know, injunction train that's going to run over the president's policies. >> that's what it is right now, laura. it is a runaway injunction train. everybody runs to the ninth circuit and lower district courts in the ninth circuit to challenge the president's actions, because they know that the ninth circuit is the most activist, ultraliberal of all our circuits. that's why these nominations are so important. donald trump promised to transform the federal courts, and he's done great work, great work at the supreme court and the circuit courts. he has not been able to get -- cracked the code and the ninth circuit. he goes in with lindsey graham, pushes these nominations from fights, it's going to make a big difference for the last two years. >> laura: governor, congrats on the book. we really appreciate your

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you, learning and laughing. you do a little bit on each show, it's not bad. podcast tomorrow. go online and get it. it's easy. you will love it. america, where we are and where we're going. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team, though they are. they take it from here. >> shannon: thank you so much. we begin tonight with a fox news alert. president trump weighing in on a controversial comment from a democratic rising star. virginia governor ralph northam saying under a proposed new abortion bill if a mother is in labor, a nonviable or severely deformed infant would be delivered, kept comfortable, and resuscitated if desired. he's accusing republicans tonight of mischaracterizing his words. we will tell you what he's saying. republicans claim he supporting legal infanticide. the president says democrats are ripping babies out of the womb, predicting these new state laws will energize the pro-life movement like never before. democrats drawing a line in the sand over president trump's border wall while signaling they