eastern and corey lewandowski and a whole host and sean is back monday, live from washington, d.c., ahead of the president and 7:00 hopefully with another super bowl ring on tom brady's hands. tucker is up next. >> tucker: good evening. welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." awful lot happening at this hour in the commonwealth of virginia. the governor of virginia ralph northam made headlines endorsing infanticide on camera. that wasn't a big deal for most people in the press. but this afternoon on first day of black history month picture from 1984 of northam wearing either blackface or k.k.k. robe in a photograph. that is a problem for ralph northam. trace gallagher is following every development tonight and he brings us the latest. trace? >> tucker, we should note for clarity, virginia governor

ralph northam has now confirmed he was in the controversial picture in 1984 medical school yearbook showing someone dressed in a k.k.k. robe and hood and another wearing blackface. northam did not state which costume he was wearing. but he did issue a statement that reads in part --" "i'm deeply sorry for the decision i made to appear as i did in this photo and for the hurt that decision caused then and now. this behavior is not in keeping with who i am today and the values i have fought for throughout my career in the military, in medicine and in public service." the virginia republican party is condemning the picture saying, "racism has no place in you virginia. the pictures are wholly inappropriate. and governor northam appeared ad in blackface or dressed in a k.k.k. robe he should resign immediately." this marks the second time in recent days that northam drawn heat from republicans. he was called out to sex plain his support for a failed measure to permit full term abortions.

listen. >> if a mother is in labor, i can tell you exactly what would happen. the infant would be delivered and kept comfortable. resuscitated if that is what the mother and the family desired. then the discuss would ensue. >> northam worked as a immediate rat rick neurologist before being elected to the state senate in 2007. it's notable that northam was quick to condemn the racial violence that rocked charlottesville in 2017. and virginia democrats might be less resistant to fight potential resignation of northam because the lieutenant governor justin fairfax is an african-american democrat. we will come in with breaking news if it happens. tucker? >> tucker: it looks like it might. trace gallagher, thank you very much. as you saw on tape, northam came out in favor of infanticide this week. not exaggerating. northam said it slowly and

clearly. you just saw it. then he reiterated his views in case he wasn't clear the first time. today in a statement he said abortion of any stage this is a positive good -- listen to this carefully. because "reproductive freedom leads to economic freedom." in other words, abortion is virtous because it makes women efficient employees, better and more dutiful servants of northam donors. they can work longer hours without worrying about anybody but their bosses. he is in fair of that as is the democrats that serve their own master in the private equity class. but the press covered this. but the reporter of the "washington post" the real crime is republicans complaining about ralph northam. "abortion bill draws g.o.p. outrage against ralph northam, democratic legislators." that is a headline. republicans whine too much. infanticide, not a big deal. then all of that changed you heard today. the first day of black history

month. big league politics uncovered the photo trace just told us about. what is so interesting about it is that ralph northam spent a lot of his last campaign calling his opponent racist. again and again and again. the closing flurry of the campaign was ads putting up the republican opponent up against pictures what happened at charlottesville. atrocities of charlottesville. there is no evidence that the opponent was racist but northam said 9 a lot. strikingly northam's opponent never took picture of himself in blackface or a klan robe. so there is irony of the story. as of now, a number of prominent democrats kamala harris among them, called for northam resignation among this. there are many in his party, particularly in virginia, standing by him. they personally oppose blackface and clap robes but they don't want them relegated to the black alley. they want them safe, legal and rare. private matter between a politician and his donors.

for now, governor northam will be kept comfortable, you can be certain of that and he will be resuscitated if that is what his party desires. dave ruben hosts ruben report on youtube. he joins us. do you find it striking, dave, in the week that the comments come out on camera they are unequiv -- unequivocal. he says that you have a right to kill the child. then the yearbook photo looks like it end his career tonight. >> yeah. i don't know that a politician could have much worse of a week than he is having right at this moment. tucker, something we disagree on. i consider myself pro-choice begrudgingly and 20 weeks should be the cutoff. i know that is an imperfect position. the left has gone so crazy on abortion. it was illustrated by what he said this week. that that is making decent liberals have a harder time

taking moderate positions. when it comes to the photograph, only in the last two or three months we were dealing with the high school yearbooks and brett kavanaugh. there was going to be no chance that people on the left would be willing to give him a second chance or explain himself or anything else. it is unclear now whether he is the one in the blackface or the k.k.k. hood. he didn't say which one he was. by the rules that they are establishing he has to step down. look, it's awful. nobody should be doing that kind of stuff. but that said, there is a slight piece of me that thinks we should caution this idea of the mutually assured destruction based on what all of our pasts are. that is not a pass on any specific thing in this or anything else. but we should worry about where it will lead us as a country as we're all imperfect people. this is a case where i see no situation where he can't step down. he is from the party that calls all of you guys the

conservatives racists. how can they possibly defend him now? >> tucker: i think that is right. i just keep thinking this. i lived in this country in 1984. i was dating the same girl i am with now. it wasn't that long ago. nobody i knew had picture of klan robes. i don't want to add to the pile-on but where was this? that was weird behavior in 1984. i'm here to tell you. >> you are older than me. i was only 8 in 1984. i don't remember anyone doing that. but people do all sort of weird things. people wear weird offending halloween costumes and all that. >> tucker: they do. you are right. >> people have a right to wear or say whatever you want. it doesn't mean you won't have fallout or face repercussions for that. that is fine. but by the rules we are playing with now, they can't let him off the hook. if they do, it would fuel the fire that the really far left progressives are always stoking, which is that the establishment or the main part of the democrats or whatever he is, is racist.

then they really is a point. i think they have to get rid of him. we have to figure out a way to acknowledge people change over time. i don't know what his personal beliefs are. yet, he called his opponent racist as you pointed out before. i don't know that there is any evidence of that. we live in a time where most of the people who were calling everyone else racist and bigots and home phobes and the rest of -- homophobes are those that are dealing with it. >> tucker: thank you for the wise analysis. appreciate it. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: democrat and radio host and frequent guest on the show and a former aide to chuck schumer and he joins us tonight. do you find it strange, chris hahn, you can come out in public and say it's okay to kill a child who has been born, which is what he said, and then he said it again. everybody is like that is not a big deal. infanticide. killing a human being,

whatever. they are okay with it. on the basis of a yearbook photo he will probably resign, i presume, by the end of tonight. is that strange? >> i discuss infanticide thing ad nauseam. he was not calling for killing of babies born alive. he is talking about the difficult end-of-life decisions for babies born disable and may die unless kept on reus thation. save -- resuscitation. let's save that for another day. he needs to resign now. he has to go. no apology here. he may have changed. but serving in public life is a privilege and it shouldn't be tainted by the stain of racism. >> tucker: i'm not going to argue. i'm against racism. i make an argument against it every night on the show for which i'm called a racist. i'm totally opposed to racism, i mean it. i wonder what the standard is. keith ellison was a member of the nation of islam who called

for a black ethno state and worshiped louis farrakhan as a god-like figure but that is totally cool because why? >> look -- >> tucker: seriously. >> i don't know all the details of that so i don't want to go down the path. >> tucker: he was a member of the nation of islam and called for a black ethno state and vice chairman of your party. nobody said anything. i mentioned it 30 times on the show. nobody cared. what is the standard? >> exactly. the standard here is clear with ralph northam and what he did. he needs to go immediately. there are a lot of people in politics right now like steve king in iowa who need to go immediately. too many people play around with racism and get to state. >> tucker: calling for black ethno state -- i'm not exaggerating. we detailed it many times on the show.

maybe there sangerment in favor of that, i don't know what it would be. why is that okay? steve king, he didn't call for an ethno state. >> called for white nationalists. >> tucker: i'm not here to defend steve king. he says he didn't say that. keith ellison did and the number two man in your party. why is that okay? tell the rest of us what the standard is. >> why is it all right that steve scalise said he was david duke without the baggage and he is the number two ranking republican in the house of representatives? >> tucker: okay. >> there are a lot of things that need to be sorted out. we need to get to a place where we don't have racism, and we don't have people stoking racial issues in a bad way. or in the government. >> tucker: i agree with that 100%. i agree. people should not be punished or rewarded on the basis of their skin color. that is the definition of racism. not only is it happening, it expanding in this country and the left is pushing it.

>> yes. >> tucker: they should be ashamed of that. let me ask you this -- >> they allow them to stick around for a long time. >> what about poor ed gillespie, they are not my politics but there is no evidence he is a racist. he is a decent man, actually. the northam character called him a racist, repeatedly. and heb is the one in the blackface with the klan outfit. does someone owe him an apology at some point? >> no. gillespie ran a campaign -- >> tucker: okay. >> he ran a campaign all about the statue of robert e. lee. what does that stand for? who is that appealing to? you know who that is appealing to? can i tell you who that is appealing to? >> it's not true. >> 1984 ralph northam and people just like it. >> tucker: i live here. okay? >> yeah. >> tucker: right across the river from virginia. he dud not run a campaign that was going all about robert e. lee statue. there is no evidence he is a racist. i don't think there is a picture of ed gillespie in

blackface or a klan hood. if the guy in the klanhood is calling you a racist maybe you deserve an apology. that is all i'm saying. do you think or no? >> i don't think he deserves a apology. his campaign did race-baiting. not just the robert e. lee statue. the hoodies are coming to get you. look, it is what it is. it's politics. that is what it was. that is the campaign. ed gillespie not even from virginia, not even from the south. >> tucker: that is a separate argument. >> appealing to the type of voter that would have been in that picture in 1984. >> tucker: i will say the campaign didn't find the picture but neither did the "washington post." "washington post" is not a serious newspaper. it's a joke. >> nor his primary opponent. >> tucker: look, i agree. but the post got, kind of a newsletter run by the richest man in the world jeff bezos really a shameful publication. but it got forensic with ed gillespie, quite. they couldn't find a yearbook know toll of the guy

running -- yearbook photo of a guy running for governor? why do you think that is? >> this is some of the worst opposition research i have seen in his life. how none of his primary or political opponents or the local papers or the national press for that matter found this picture is beyond me. this was a hotly contested race. you would think they would leave no stone unturned. they would have talked to friends from college to find out what happened. they did not. this was poor opposition research by everybody involved here. it's time for him to go. >> tucker: not even opposition research. just like reporting. it's interesting. maybe we can get the "washington post" guys assigned to ralph northam and how they missed this. the geniuses there. >> i have done opposition research in my life. the first thing you do is try to find pictures of them from when they were in college. this is not, this is not -- >> tucker: you were good at that. when it came to brett kavanaugh. >> find out what he is about. >> tucker: this is not a newspaper. this is a newsletter for the democratic party, as you well

know. chris, great to see you. thank you. >> nice to see you, tucker. >> well, across the country, democrats have been pushing for abortion to the moment of birth. we are not making that up. it's hard to miss. but when the "daily caller" henry rogers asked members of congress about governor northam and his defense of infanticide they pleaded total ignorance of it. watch this. >> do you agree with governor northam comments yesterday about late term abortion? >> i have no idea what he said or what happened there. >> do you agree with governor northam late term abortion comments he said yesterday? >> i don't know what he said. >> you have no idea what he said? >> do you happen to agree with governor northam's comments about abortion, late term abortion yesterday? >> i have not seen anything. >> not heard about it? >> i've been at retreat. >> tucker: they must have been zen buddhist retreats. in big sur or something. unbelievable. lie. nancy pelosi said she had no idea either. watch this.

>> considering the comments from governor northam yesterday how does it make it harder for the pro life democrats in the party, or does it cause problems? >> house speaker pelosi: i'm sorry. i don't know what he said yesterday. >> tucker: yeah, just don't know. i don't have the interstate access. if only northam wanted doctors to wear blackface while committing infanticide that would have gotten attention. abbey johnson former planned parenthood director and now an activist and joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. it is so interesting how an entire party can push a policy position and refuse to talk about it, much less debate it. why not just say yeah, we're for this? >> they are lying. look, they have all seen the clip and they all know what he said. but i think even now, pro-choice democrats are going ew, is that a little too far? we don't know. do we support this guy? do we not? it's so extreme. even the pro choicers on social media say wait a minute, what are we talking about here?

people in the own party don't know how to defend this. >> tucker: this is completely extreme but it's not necessarily a surprise. i mean, professor singer at princeton, leading ethicist has been pushing for infanticide for a long time. he hasn't been drummed out of academia. some of the bills, the one in new york, pending on long island, vermont, virginia. they all sort of say the same thing that the viability means nothing at all. >> the one in vermont is so extreme. at least in the other state we have the lie of the health of the mother, which means anything. but at least you have to give some sort of excuse. but in vermont we are talking about elective abortion through the date of birth. we are talking about if the woman is laboring with her baby and she decides right before the baby is about to come out. you know what? i don't think i want to do this anymore. then the doctor or whatever

has the ability to take the life of the baby. when you look at what governor northam said, what does it mean? the baby is born alive and then what? the parents get to decide what will happen to the baby? does it mean we starve the baby to death, do we suffocate the baby? we don't know what it means. it's insane that a pediatric neurosurgeon is championing the sort of bills. >> i guess what bothers me most there is no public conversation about this. i think as you said that a lot of people think of themselves as the pro choice and they don't want the government to get involved. i don't agree with that personally. i understand where they are coming from. i don't think they are bad people. i think this is too far. i don't think anybody in america supports this stuff. most people don't know it is happening because there is no conversation about it. >> honestly, this is not new. colorado, there is a doctor in boulder, colorado, aborting babies up until the date of

birth for any reason for many, many years. it's happening in albuquerque, new mexico. it's happening in maryland. this has been happening but i'm thankful now we have a national platform to talk about the issues. it is happening. it's not just happening to babies who have terminal illnesses. late term abortions are happening on live, healthy, viable babies. >> i think pro-lifers need to start saying they are here illegally and maybe gavin newsom will ride to the rescue and chain himself to planned parenthood door. he probably would. abbey, thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> tucker: as we have been telling you, there is a lot going on in state of virginia tonight. the governor there, ralph northam hanging on, appears to be, by a thread. will he resign? we'll be the first to bring it to you if he does so in this hour. the president may have to declare a national emergency if he wants to build a border wall. what would it detail? is there a precedent for it? we have facts on it.

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national emergencies act. that law grants the president the power to declare a state of emergency in response to virtually anything if he thinks it's necessary. national emergencies can be renewed annually and routinely are. congress can only block the emergency with two-third vote. broad law and applied a lot. it began in 1979 when president jimmy carter declared national emergency to keep the iranian government property entering the united states. that emergency is still ongoing despite being older than alexandria ocasio-cortez for example. since that date, american presidents declared no fewer than 58 national emergencies. 31 of them are still ongoing. the average state of emergency in the country lasted nine and a half years. what are the energies? some really were emergencies. september 2001. president bush announced state of emergency to give white house greater authority to mobilize the military, call

the national guard and perform counterterrorist action. it's been renewed each of the past 18 years. so that was real. we also had a decade long national emergency to combat the swine flu. president trump declared three national emergencies already. i bet you didn't know that. one of them sanctioned those who used social media to influence elections. the dastardly mass donians -- macedonians. another national emergency punishes anyone who works to "under mine sovereignty of lebanon." lebanon. you see the point here? in washington, protecting the sovereignty of the far away middle eastern country very few americans will ever go to qualifies as a national emergency. protecting our own country sovereignty is, "immoral." we are not overstating that. just this week, four freshmen democrats in the house cosigned letter to demand

lower funding for the border enforcement. it's virtous -- vir tuous to protect others. but wrong to protect ourselves. douglas mcgregor retired colonel who worked to defend the country and author of "margin of victory." he joins us tonight. do you think it's wise for the president to declare national emergency to secure the boarder? >> without question. 30 million illegal residents inside your country violated your borders disregarded the rule of law you have a national emergency. that is absolutely the case. secondly only the president can address this. he has constitutional authority to do so. he needs an executive order modeled on what i have written and i think is now widely appreciated inside the fox news community that effectively says look,

secretary of the army, your mission is secure to border. you have 30 days. use whatever forces you need. write up the rules of engagement and provide you with whatever funding is necessary. you will secure the border. now while the army does that, we can proceed with building barriers. we have an organization called the u.s. army corps of engineers. they can be tasked to build barriers. >> tucker: well, i thought they were for flood control. >> they have all sort of missions inside the united states. but army forces are engineers. brigades of engineers that can be put to work on the border and build barriers. he doesn't need special permission. he has the constitutional authority to act as the commander-in-chief. he doesn't need any help from congress at all. so this is a national emergency. let there be no doubt about it. >> tucker: you are confusing me. i live here. it was my understanding that the point of the u.s. army forces was to guarantee the

sovereignty of countries we will never visit and candid -- can't spell. sovereignty for lebanon for example. is that not the case? >> good news, we have thousands of soldiers, sergeants, lieutenants, captains, lieutenant colonels, majors who guard and secured other people's borders so they know exactly how to do this. all we are trying to do is defend our own border. when you defend it, you defend it. if someone tries to cross the border illegally, you stop them. once you stop them, you can biometrically tag them so you have them in a database and you turn them around and send them back. you tell them if you come back again, you will face prison time. you will be prosecuted for violating our laws. that is how you expel people. you don't just leave your borders open to say here is a camp, move into it while we decide what to do with you. the president can outline the legal restrictions in an

executive order. he needs to do it as soon as possible. >> tucker: so this would not be the first time that the u.s. military secured the u.s. border? that is why we have a military. >> the army was there from 1846 to 1946. >> tucker: exactly. why are the white house lawyers telling the president that he does not have the authority to do that? >> that is an easy answer. the president surrounded himself for the last two years with people who are there to subvert him. to obstruct his agenda. everyone is there to tell him no. that is not an answer he should accept. he has the authority, he needs to act. i was glad to see he took the secretary of the army with him to visit the border when he went to texas. i hope the secretary of the army is thinking about this. that is his job. >> does the secretary of the army have constitutional authority to make policy? >> no. but he has a constitutional obligation and mission to defend the borders of the united states. >> tucker: right. colonel, thank you for that. interesting. the president spent the last

week depending the government power to have an armed squad squeeze you in the dead of night for the crime of alleged perjury. roger stone was seized in fort lauderdale barefoot and he joins us to respond to the media glee in the face of his arrest. that's after the break.

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other people with a raid by the f.b.i.? not that different. the guy spent the entire day in front of the news cameras. clearly he was traumatized. >> tucker: who put that guy on tv? it's a disgrace. the former c.i.a. director john brennan speaking of disgrace insinuated that stone was hannibal lector long lost cousin. >> keeping with the procedures of the f.b.i., they were conducting an arrest and executing search warrant. let's not forget roger stone has fair amount of unstable activities and comments he made. stealing someone's dog. telling someone "prepare to die." this is not somebody to trifle with. >> tucker: trifle. brennan who you saw talking once lied to the public, you me and the rest of us about killing civilians with drone bombs. but that is not a big deal. he still got a cable contract. what does roger stone have to say about the coverage of his arrest? we'll ask him. he is on the set tonight. roger stone, thank you for

joining us. are you under a gag order? >> no. the judge said today she is considering one. she asked for the government and the attorneys to submit thoughts about that. i'm going to refrain from speaking about the specifics of the indictment because i addressed it in the extent i'm going to. i'm interested in what happened here. one of my neighbors now signed sworn affidavit who was walking their dog. the cnn crew, the struck showed up half an hour or 35 mince before the f.b.i. i live on a dead end street. the street was sealed. they were allowed to stay in the position in front of my house. if i was dangerous, which is the premise of this raid, why were they allowed to stay within the danger zone? why were they put in harm's way? the idea i'm a flight risk is ridiculous. i don't have a valid passport. although i support the second amendment i don't own a gun. there were no firearms in the

house. i have been under investigation for two years. so what information did the f.b.i. have i would destroy evidence? why would i wait -- >> tucker: i don't know. brennan who is a liar, john brennan dog kidnapping. >> i'll address that at the appropriate time. that is not true. i have written on animal welfare rights for the daily caller and i worked hard to stop the government conducting inhumane scientific experiments on dogs and cats. >> tucker: when you are a dog lover of the first -- >> john brennan purgerred himself twice before that. the steele dicier and the fisa warrant -- steele dozier and the fisa warrant. and breaking in the computers to look into torture by the c.i.a. >> tucker: mislying about killing people with drones. >> but he is not prosecuted. like mr. comey, mr. mccabe,

rod rosenstein, mr. wray. general clapper, of course, who said no, there is no metadata collection process. then hillary clinton herself. all those people purgerred themselves but i -- purgerred themselves. >> tucker: ask about the day of the arrest, a week ago today. you said cnn was in the perimeter and that was a raid that must have been considered dangerous. there were automatic weapons. one had two side arm. a lot of guns. why were they allowed to stay there? >> i don't know. i hope senator lindsey graham and the republicans would get to the bottom of it. i would like to know who signed off on the raid. the main reason that the gag order concerns me is because i need to be able to raise the money to mount a defense. >> tucker: right.

>> they have unlimited taxpayers dollars. three platoons of left wing ivy league lawyers to prosecute me. they have enormous amount of material in discovery we have to go through. three terabyte according to the press relief. so unless they go to stonedefensefund.com and i have a forum to promote it i don't -- >> tucker: i don't understand. what grounds could they end your first amendment rights? >> they gagged paul manafort in his trial. because i would be prejudicing witnesses. pardoning me. i'd be prejudicing a jury. what was the purpose of the raid to poison the jury and hold me up as public enemy number one. >> tucker: to use cable news channel as a p.r. operation to get their message out. if they gag you and take your first amendment rights away, does it mean they are no longer allowed to leak to cnn against you? >> it's an interesting question. the purpose of the gag is so i don't poisoned a potential

jury pool. they have poisoned the jury pool but comparing me to pablo escobar. >> tucker: it's one-sided. they can arrest you with the armored vehicles and the stun grenades and force you not to speak in public. but they can still say whatever they want about you to news organizations. >> and leak. i mean in two years of leaks as you know i was going to be arrested every over tuesday destroyed my business. the censorship of my show on info wars. and the censorship of my facebook page has hurt my book sales dramatically. i'm a "new york times" best-selling author. so this is part of the plan. destroy you financially so like general flynn you have to plead guilty to something you didn't do. >> tucker: unbelievable. you are always welcome on the show, gag order or not. thank you. >> thank you. >> tucker: and former adviser to the trump campaign who spent time around the

mueller investigation and joins us tonight. what is, michael caputo, the right course for some warped a gag order? it does seem strange in a country that when i grew up in bragged about what we said we thought was true but what happens if you say i have a first amendment right to speak and i'm going to? >> if you are roger stone and that is the way you make your living in the madia, speaking about the current events, speaking about the investigations. you put a gag order on a guy, that is like telling robert mueller he is not allowed to investigate anymore. i mean you are going to cut back his ability to make enough money to pay his bills. let alone pay his legal bills. this is a bit different than paul manafort. manafort was not a media commentator. manafort was a political consultant. giving him a gag order didn't affect his ability to make a living. roger stone is already broke

because of the investigation. they have killed his ability to make a living as a consultant. all he has got is his media commentary. now they are going to cut that back, too? >> tucker: it seems like fairness is the baseline that everybody wants or should want. so if you are telling a man you are no longer protected by the bill of rights and not allowed to speak in public. if you do, you will go to jail. shouldn't anyone in the mueller office who leaks to the press about stone go to jail? >> no doubt. i think as well, let's not forget the leakers at the house of the permanent select committee on intelligence, senate select committee on intelligence and the others leaking right and left, every day, all day long. apart from roger stone's testimony before the house were leaked, we know where the leaks are coming from. the great thing about this case, i hate to see him one of my best friends in front of a court and dragging these things out probably has to raise $50,000, $60,000 a month to keep up with the legal

bills. but the one thing we get to see is shame shif -- chairman schiff and the representatives and the others leaking the information to the madia brought in front of the -- media brought in front of the jury in this case. and cross examined. i'll tell you this. roger stone is one of my best friends, perhaps my best friend. i was his driver 30 years ago. i talk to him not every day, but every other day frequently for 35 years. i haven't been able to speak to him since the moment of his arrest. roger stone's attorneys are taking a real hard look at what the judge is going to be upset about. out of abundance of caution, none of us close to roger are speaking to him right now. >> tucker: be careful. michael caputo, thank you very much. >> no kidding. >> tucker: nice to see you. >> thank you. >> tucker: governor ralph northam of virginia has just

released a video statement on twitter. in the video he makes it clear he will not resign from the office as a number of prominent democrats called on him to do and is determined to term out the full four-year term. many said he should resign over the nearbook photo -- yearbook photo where he is either dressed in the blackface or the klan hood. this candidate called his opponent in last year's race a racist. well, with more now apologizing for the cherokee tribe for taking a d.n.a. test. the latest on politics is the politics of the moment. is that good for the country? after the break. we'll explain. the latest innovation from xfinity

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>> tucker: increasingly politics is not concern of fringe left. politics that dominates the national conversation. elizabeth warren apologizing today to cherokee nation for taking d.n.a. test. that is not allowed anymore. meanwhile ahead of issuing the party response to the "state of the union" address, the 2018 georgia gubernatorial candidate stacey abrams written an essay demanding more identity politics in miles per hour -- in american

life. what is that? >> elizabeth warren announced she would run for president and put an exploratory committee out at the end of december. she is still in the exploratory phase but making way for the comments about the billionaire "freeloader." warren appeared on cnbc yesterday that she wants billionaires to pick up their fair share. >> i want the billionaires to stop being freeloaders. i want them to pick up their fair share. >> asking for them to do their fair share is not uncommon but calling them freeloaders is uncommon. she made headlines for apologizing to the cherokee nation for the d.n.a. test she took in the fall. for years her native american ancestry claim followed her and the d.n.a. test proved she had native american blood but many, many generations back.

they gave a statement saying that she has apologized to the describe and we understand that it's rooted in century of culture and law and not through the d.n.a. test. identity politics, stas say abrams ran for the georgia governor will deliver the democratic response to the "state of the union" tuesday. she wrote this embracing identity politics. she wrote instead the americans must thoughtfully pursue and expand identity conscious politics. new, vibrant noisy voices to manage if pains and embracing the identity and the prickly uncomfortable contours. the americans will be more likely to grow as one. before the "state of the union" on tuesday, abrams will be in a super bowl ad on sunday paid for my fair, fight, action a democratic voting rights group. >> tucker: holy smokes! we'll be following. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> tucker: update to a story we have been watching. chicago police are still

investigating the alleged assault on the television actor jussie smollett who says he was attacked tuesday morning this week by two men who put a noose around his neck, on his street, used racial slurs and referred to the city of chicago as "maga country." police have been looking into it ever since and they say the neighborhood is festooned with cameras but they have been unable to find any video of the attack or any hard evidence that it occurred. they are still investigating. some in washington are not waiting for the facts to emerge. democratic presidential candidate kamala harris and cory booker both described the attack as attempted lynching. we will continue to follow the story. smoking gun we are promised in the russia collusion story evaporated to smoke. dan bongino after the break.

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if you read "the washington post" magazine or newspaper or whatever it is now. in the summer of 2016 donald trump jr. met with a russian lawyer in trump tower. the pivotal event of the last decade. perhaps generation. before and after that meeting, young mr. trump made some phone calls, very suspicious phone calls. and all this assumed those phone calls were either to vladimir putin himself or to his father, the president. >> donald trump jr. talked to -- had a phone call and then made a phone call right after that to a blocked number. and then he called right back to a blocked number. so we know that this blocked number may very well be donald trump. >> sandwich between those calls back and forth between john jr. is a blocked call. and we wanted to know did that come from the president? was the president involved in the planning or the approval of this meeting? so we said let's subpoena the phone records and find

out. >> the timing right in the heat of this meeting makes it sound like he was calling somebody to report about the meeting and what was going on with it. >> tucker: blocked number. it can only be three things, the president, vladimir putin at the kremlin or his handler, somewhere in russia. well it turns out it wasn't any of those things. it turns out that donald trump jr. was calling a business associate. oops? but don't let the facts induce any self-reflection. please. dan bongino is a former secret service agent author of spy gate attempt to sabotage donald j. trump joins us tonight. if i goat a call from a blocked number you are saying it's not necessarily the president? >> tucker, let's be clear, there was never any evidence whatsoever that don jr. called his father after this meeting. none. what you just played with adam schiff and i believe it was swalwell, that was nothing more than a

conspiracy theory. this was another one of those, tucker, if true stories. you know, if true that don jr. called -- it was never true. there was never a scintilla of evidence. here is what is interesting, tucker. they seem so fascinated about the communications amongst don jr. after this infamous trump tower meeting, right? but what they won't tell you is what is already on the record is the two russians that showed up did have meetings after the don jr. trump tower meeting. one of them met with fusion gps who prepared the notes and the other one went out to dinner with a lawyer who is a close friend to the clintons whose wife was a higher up in the clinton administration. but don't worry, nothing to see here, folks. don't worry. we're only concerned about the blocked number phone call. >> tucker: how could a floor rid conspiracy nut, a russia truther wind up as the chairman of the house intelligence committee? how does that happen in a normal country? >> and, tucker, receive no serious push back.

if you and i were to go on the air with a widely debunked, what you thought to be a fact that he called his dad and he didn't, it's not in dispute anymore, we would never hear the end of it from anyone. conspiracy theory. the title would be thrown out forever. this is now the fourth or fifth time we have seen a prominent democrat run with a debunked hoax anti-trump story and, tucker, almost nothing happens to their reputations at all. it's brushed off like nothing ever happened. this was the key component to their whole collusion conspiracy. they met with these evil russians and then don jr. talked to dad, except it didn't happen and the russians were connected to the clintons. >> tucker: let me ask you really quickly, news of the day ralph northam say he is not going it resign suggest he and his party are pro-choice on planned. >> i couldn't run with it

because i couldn't verify it people in the democratic party probably knew about it a long time ago if i had it in october. i can prove that. >> tucker: maybe can you come on next week and we can do a forensic reexamination of where it came from. dan bongino, have the best weekend. >> thank you. good to see you, tucker. >> tucker: we hope you do too. we will be back monday night, the one after sunday at 8:00 p.m. the show that is the tuck smoktuck [national anthem]

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♪ [national anthem] >> virginia state republican party is calling for virginia's democrat governor to step down. >> pictures surface interested yearbook 1948 of northam wearing either blackface or kkk robe. >> that photo and racist and offensive attitude it represents, does not reflect that person i am today. >> now the governor is in league with planned parenthood. >> regardless we are building a wall and building a t