do you support the president on the emergency use of the wall money? mike says, "yes, the situation has been ignored too long." let us know what you think. the news continues. tammy bruce is in the house tonight! filling in for laura. how are you? >> i'm good. honor to be handed off from you to me tonight. thank you, sean. >> sean: have a great show. don't be nervous. i'm kidding. you have been doing it for years. let not your heart be troubled. you'll be great. >> i am tammy bruce in for laura ingraham. this is "the ingraham angle." we begin with a fox news alert. the spending bill to avoid another government shutdown on the way to president trump's desk as we speak. the president is expected to sane the bill tomorrow morning but he will also use the occasion finally to declare a national emergency to get the money for the border wall. the white house believes there is upwards of $8 billion they can tap into to get that wall.

we will get into that in a bit. though she is supposed to have the night off, laura will be joining us in a few moments over the phone to give her thoughts on what transpired tonight. you will not want to miss that. but first we go live to capitol hill. where we have details on how all of this went down. david? >> tammy, good evening. big night on capitol hill. before president trump signs the legislation in the morning which we're told he will as you mentioned. house speaker nancy pelosi just signed it on capitol hill. now it's on the way to the white house. 300 yeas for the bill, spending bill. 128 neighs on that. it was comprised between republicans and democrats. majority of democrats. the senate passed the majority 83-1 earlier today. spent most of the day speaking. senators had mixed feelings on the president getting ready to declare a national emergency. majority leader mitch mcconnell made it clear he had assurances from president trump the bill would be

signed. this bill calls for $1.37 billion for the new barrier borders enough for 55 miles of the fencing along the texas-mexico border. there are several provisions. one is that the department of homeland security must discuss any new construction with the local leaders before that construction of the wall takes place. this is an issue that specifically put somewhat of a wedge between republicans, senators lindsey graham and richard shelby are calling the wall money a down payment. >> consider this a down payment. find the difference between 1.375 to $5 .7 billion through executive action. some of it can be done with tapping existing accounts without emergency declaration. i think he will go the national emergency route because he has to. >> but other republicans like susan collins from maine and john cornyn from texas said

they don't know if the national emergency is the best way to do this. senator cornyn seeing the immigration issues down there. meanwhile, on the democratic side in the house, progressive democrat from new york alexandria ocasio-cortez, she voted no on the package, tammy, because she said that it funded the department of homeland security. she has called specifically for a defunding of immigration and the customs enforcement, i.c.e. that is why she voted no. nancy pelosi earlier today felt confident about this saying she believed the democrats would have the votes. also, house speaker pelosi didn't rule out any potential legal challenges if president trump, i should say when president trump declares a national emergency. however, white house press secretary sarah sanders said earlier today that the white house is ready for any legal challenges. again the bill on the way to the white house right now. 1,159 payments. president trump's team working all night and he will sane it

tomorrow morning. >> it takes a village, apparently the read bills now. thank you very much. now joining me via phone is the host of the program laura ingraham. welcome to your program. thank you so much for calling in for us. >> laura: hey, tammy. i'm winding my way through the mountains of colorado. if i go in and out, sorry about that. >> sounds nice. >> laura: i just got off the phone with a white house source. he said that -- this is their point -- they were really in a no-win situation. they had to sign this. if they didn't pain inflicted on the american public and pain in the way we saw unfold before. a lot of frustration, however, from the white house about the provisions in the writing process. this only lasts, only good until the send of september, the end of this fiscal year. this is not a forever thing

but it's still frustrating. the provision i have been tweeting about and speaking about on the podcast today is the provision that gives presumably it seems like a de facto shielding from deportation of any potential sponsor of any illegal immigrant kid who comes across the border. now that conceivably could be second cousin twice removed if you read the language. a lot of discretion. i'm assured that the department of homeland security will be extremely stringent in the way they interpret that provision. that they will not allow some wholesale de facto amnesty to be instituted through this provision. so they insist that that is not something that the american people should worry about. they are absolutely confident that they are going to be automobile to -- be able to get billions for the wall and build perhaps as much as 200 wall in critical places in the united states with this, with the emergency fund $1.5

billion and then with more money coming from this intradiction sources, from i guess, drug d. -- >> laura: you are breaking up. >> the president will realize this is par for the course. remarkable it went through the republicans considering the land mines in it. he rostralis it will have to be not necessary -- he will have to realize that it's not always a compromise but has to work for us and against the establishment to get things done. it mate be the -- it might be the canyons in colorado. all right. so we've lost laura. great, enough time, great analysis. summary right there for us with her sources in the white house. we will be back with laura in

a minute as she comes through to another better cell area. but let's go now, joining me live from capitol hill, congressman ken buck and congressman paul gossar. gentlemen, welcome to the program. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> a busy night for all of us. you heard laura and her description of how the white house felt about this, that effectively their hand was forced that this is not really a great situation but they feel they can work with it. let me ask you certainly congressman buck, how is this really a bipartisan framework? i mean there are so many things that we don't get. it's not really exactly what the president wanted. in some ways it could be considering embarrassing and certainly dangerous for immigrant communities because it limits what i.c.e. can do with detaining and deporting individuals. how do you describe this as a win for the republicans and for the president, if you can? >> first, i want to thank laura for being in colorado

and spending her money in colorado. i appreciate that very much. this is not a bipartisan bill. this is an institutional bill. this is for people doing their best to thwart the president and stop good american policy and they are acting in a way that republicans and democrats, some republicans and democrats want to see. they are spending too much money and stopping border security, hampering i.c.e.'s efforts to make sure that this country is safer and stopping the ability to interdict drugs coming in the country. they are undermining the ability to protect americans. >> it certainly seems that way. i have to ask congressman, your experience there, you are there with -- arizona is your state. this seems to be a remarkable dynamic. in fact, i don't know who was other than perhaps the white house who will have even read

this bill knowing exactly how perhaps dangerous it is in certain aspects. what do you feel about that and the impact on the border statutes? the -- on the border states and the states immediately impacted? >> you are right. less than 24 hours to read 1,000 pages is physically impossible. it's the same mantra of the establishment here. jam it to the end of the week and throw 1,000-page bull -- 1,000-page bill to take it or leave it. this affects my state. 40% of the drugs coming in to the country come through arizona. you need collaboration. you need border walls and more beds. you need i.c.e. that is dynamic. border patrol agents that are paid fairly. and empowered. all of that is restricted in this bill. it doesn't help us. it hurts us. >> this is why, obviously we know everybody is obsessed with the president's approval rating which again today according to rasmussen at a

lovely 50%. congress can't say the same thing. you are between 8-13% approval. americans don't like when this happens. we have seen it over and over again. this is life and death. i have to say especially for the immigrant communities. documented or not. these are things that make towns, well, like lawrence, massachusetts, where elizabeth warren announced her run for the presidency is a sanctuary city. it's a hub as one u.s. attorney noted. a hub for opioids to be distributed throughout new england. those lives are ruined. the lives of the people who have to deal with the environment if their towns. so this is the responsibility of congress. this is all of our responsibility. we see this game continuing to be played. when out seems to be clear about what kneads to be done. congressman, let me ask, though, this has been going on for so many years, this seems to be no different. why is it no difference for

people in congress? what influence has the republicans not had to help make a change here in how things are done? >> well, actually, there was a change here, tammy. to the wrong side. this basically super charges child trafficking because now what you will see is a precedent-setting application where those people associated in a house, or a holding with unawe companynied minor would l be off-limits. we will stretching h.h.s. to make discern who is apoliticable to i.c.e. this is a -- who is applicable to i.c.e. this is a nightmare. >> this is what is confusing. this is a bipartisan commission that came together to deliver the solution to the american people. it's awful. how is it that the republican leadership and the republicans in congress and the house and the senate, all these people come together and come up with something that pretty much doesn't -- i mean it's game,

it seems. how is it that the republicans can approve of what they have put forward to the president? >> so this is a conference committee that is made of appropriators. they have different d.n.a. than the rest of us in congress. they are born to spend money. they have put us $22 trillion in debt. and they continue to put us in debt at the rate of $800 billion a year. we will be close to $1 trillion a year in the next fiscal year. that is one of the main problems with this bill. we don't have people like paul who are feeling the effects of this policy with i.c.e. every day. >> we are all feeling it, certainly. congressman, you want you to stay there. i appreciate you being with us but i want to bring laura back quickly. welcome back. i don't know if you have heard the conversation. continue on with what you were saying. >> laura: i did. well, tammy, look. this is the situation that the american people listening all across the country have to know tonight. congress is responsible for

this situation. >> exactly. >> laura: with the record number of people crossing the border. when they say there is no crisis, they are lying to the american people. 1,800 family units cross the border on monday when the president was in el paso. 300 of them, two groups of 300 according to the "washington post" and d.h.s., crossed on monday. that is a crisis. this bill does nothing to address that. it's an easy fix. i know on the show you will play some of what i said last night for people to listen to again. this is an easy, easy fix. this was totally unnecessary. the presidents instincts on this has always been right. simple, pragmatic thinking. >> indeed. he is a clearly a man alone if a way. right? he has made every effort to compromise. people will remember the "state of the union." he seems to be in washington, the one person who is thinking about us. who is thinking about the future. who is not thinking about his

next job. or what the media will say. he is generally a man alone in facing what this swamp is putting forward to him. >> laura: well, i would say this. i think the democrats are the ones who are willing to inflict pain on the american public. the president, i think, it irked him to have to do this. but the president did not want to put the country through and this economy through uncertainty of another government shutdown. >> right. >> laura: that is a terrible position to be in. he's a damaclese sword over the public. he decides to do sadly the only card he has left, the national emergency. the democrats pushed him in this situation, tammy. it was completely unnecessary. the president did the right thing here. he had to do this. this will be expedited to the supreme court. the supreme court is going to have to make a decision about

whether the president's constitutional authority extends to this type of situation regarding the border. i think it's a no-brainer. he absolutely has the constitutional authority to do this. nancy pelosi's comments about this earlier today were ridiculously stupid. she doesn't know what she is talking about. this will be affirmed by the court. they just have to get to the court and then they will be off to the races. this is not the way any of us wanted this done. i'm really unhappy with what a lot of what is in this bill. it's not what we wanted. the president should have done this in the first 100 days of his term. you can blame the pros in congress for doing this. >> he was trying. he started the term trying to work with the system. being the compromiseer, bringing people in. obviously the last two years have been education for all of us. >> laura: it has. >> the president has put this off and now he clearly realizes i think this is important for the american

people to see what congress really is doing, what the democrats are made of. and what the president has stated from the beginning he continues to focus on. i think it's valuable because i don't think this is going to end for the next six years. i think this will be a constant fight. >> laura: tammy, this is going to be the election year issue. we thought this was going to be so. we thought it could be settled. but the democrats are bowing down at the altar of open borders. this is a religion to them. this is, tammy, their religion. they don't believe in the old nation state. they think nations are passe. they think sovereignty is expongable, tradeable -- expungable and tradeable. and president trump doesn't believe that. >> and president obama thought specialist was the problem and

they want to carry it on. we have seen the results of a man donald trump who thinks the opposite. the world reaps the benefit of that. great stuff, laura. thank you for joining us on your vacation. i appreciate it. thank you for letting me keep your chair warm here. your comments were obviously -- >> laura: have a great show. everybody make their views heard to congress. don't take your eye off this ball. this is for the shooting match. our country at stake. >> this is great. thank you, laura. i want to bring pack congressman ken buck and paul gossar. congressman buck, this is extension of the next six years and what the election will be about. at least the republicans in the senate, do you see them being helpful to the president and the republicans in the house of representatives being more helpful to his agenda as well. at this point the only agenda set for the american people. >> i think the american people

respect strength. i think president trump is showing strength on this issue. he has a clear vision from protecting americans from the dangerous all legal immigrants as well as from drugs. the national emergency in this case is the fact that congress can't act. that is an emergency. we need to make sure we take care of that. i applaud this president for taking a strong stand and making sure that all americans understand we have a border. we need to enforce the border security. >> do you have any concerns at the same time, we know we have -- i think we have about 30 existing facial emergencies that are in order in the united states. president clinton issued 17. president obama issued 12 or 13. so this is something that happens. never a drama and people are probably not aware of the national emergency orders implemented. we heard from the democrats who say well, they, hey, we'll do the national -- we can do this on other issues. do you think that the democrats need the permission

of the republicans and what they do to do what they are going to do? do you take that threat seriously? >> the democrat presidents have never been bound by the law. when you look at how president, president obama, president clinton, president carter tweeted the antiquities or the emergency act, they have always expanded the scope of presidential power. this president is much more limited in the scope and acting on a true emergency. >> congressman buck, do you agree? you get the last word? any concern about the national emergency declaration? >> i do. but here is the deal. the president had at his disposal is $4.5 billion without touching the emergency clause. so congress -- >> get it all. >> ready to rock and roll. i think this president was betrayed by a lot of people in congress. >> the president knows what he kneads to achieve. he is looking out i think for the american people and he will find a way to make it work. gentlemen, thank you for joining us tonight on a busy night. i appreciate it.

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ellison barber is live at the white house with the late-breaking developments. >> hi, tammy. a senior administration official tells fox news that president trump is going to announce $8 billion for the border law. his long promised border wall. he will use executive actions to move around and free up that money from various federal agencies. the senior administration official also says that the president will declare a national emergency when it comes to that funding bill. they say they are not exactly sure when they will receive a physical copy of it here at the white house. but at this point i'm told they expect president trump to sign it tomorrow morning. there are, of course, still more details that we will get throughout the night. of course, more tomorrow morning. the white house press secretary sar is a sanders told report -- sarah sanders told reporters that more information will be coming and she said that president trump will sign the funding bill and take other executive action including a national emergency to ensure we stop the national security and the humanitarian

crisis at the border. the president is again delivering on his promise to build the wall, protect the border and secure our great nation." but the department of justice reportedly warned the white house that a national emergency declaration will almost certainly it will be blocked by -- to prevent the made attempt to go around congress. president trump saudi if he takes the national emergency route he expects legal action to follow. this afternoon the white house said they are ready for it. sarah sanders said there should not be any of that sort of action because in her words the president is doing his job and congress should do theirs. kevin mccarthy said he spoke to trump this evening and he falls good about the funding bill. one source tells fox news that earlier in the day that president was very conflicted about certain sections of the

legislation. >> thank you very much. appreciate it. >> this could stop tomorrow if congress did what they should tonight. all asylum applications should be filed outside of america. secondly, the law must be changed to amount for immediate turnbacks. third, one illegal border crossing and you're out. you are back home. that means back to zero tolerance. finally, prosecute more adults for child endangerment. >> tammy: all right. that was laura here on the angle last night as she mentioned with hor advice to fix -- her advice to fix the security bill. joining me now is former director of i.c.e. and hector garza, national border council. thank you for joining me on this important night. let me ask you, mr. garza,

this is an argument about whether or not there is an emergency. we know in 2017, over 70,000 americans died of overdoses primarily daw to opioids. fentanyl and heroin. that is more than the 58,000 people who died in all of the years in vietnam war combined. one year, 70,000 americans dead from drugs that come primarily 80-90% from the southern border. is that not an emergency, sir? >> clearly it's a humanitarian crisis and emergency. what we see right now is between the ports of entry we see dangerous drugs and we yet to consider between the port of entry they are unsecured locations. ports of entry are secured location with technology and manpower. between ports of entry we don't have that technology. we don't have the manpower. yes, it's a crisis. president trump should declare an emergency. >> tammy: you see this every day. the men and women you represent see this every day. mr. holman, your experience,

too, invaluable here in that there are arguments from the democrats, well, most of this comes in through the secured point of entries. what does that tell you about -- even if it was true, what does it tell you that what happens with the unsecured areas if all of the drugs as they argue are coming in from the ports of entry. all the more reason why we would need the wall, correct? >> look, democrats are twisting the story. what the fact is, more drugs are seized at the port of entry because every car is stopped. every person is talked to. so of course they are going to find more drugs because they have better security. that doesn't mane drugs reason coming across between the ports of entry. there are places that cars can drive through. they can be smuggled in packbacks. so, of course, more drugs are arrested at the port of entry. that is why we need security between the port of entry. they turn the story around. it's the false narrative.

that drugs don't come across the border. you have border patrols with you. i was a border agent and 221 kilos in a truck that came across a bash -- barbed wire fence. >> tammy: there is an attitude what we find or interdict is all that is coming over. the problem is what we don't know and what we know that border walls that do exist what they have stopped. over 90% of the illegal activity. can we expect that with what we are going to be building now with whether the rio grande or wherever the president needs to start? >> the border bill is not good for border security. it's very bad. look at the 55 miles of the border wall approved in the bill, the language restricts where we can build the border wall. matter of fact, the rio grand valley, those are the areas that are very, very busy that drugs come across and dangerous criminals. think about this. we have four agents that encounter 300 illegal agents out there. that part of the border is not secured because the four

agents now have to process illegal aliens. >> tammy: great point. now what we are dealing with here is the framework of the national emergency. and at least allowing us to approach this in an aggressive way. gentlemen, thank you for joining me. coming up, breaking details raising new questions about the alleged maga attack on "empire" actor jussie smollett. a live report on a story that is getting crazier by the minute. plus, new details about a group of rogue f.b.i. leaders and an extraordinary development trying to take down president trump. house intelligence committee ranking member nunes joins me live.

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>> tammy: tonight there are conflicting reports against alleged maga attack against "empire" actor jussie smollett last month in chicago. developments coming in by the minute. jonathan hunt is live in the west coast newsroom to tell us what they are.

jonathan? >> good evening. for some time now, multiple law enforcement and city officials have been telling our own chicago-based reporter matt finish that jussie smollett story of an alleged attack appeared to be a hoax. they base that aapparently on not having found evidence of an assault even after looking of hundreds of hours of security camera video recordings from the area. nonetheless, with the investigation ongoing we're circumspect in your reporting. but tonight, local chicago media outlets are reporting that the chicago police are indeed investigating whether jussie smollett may have staged the attack along with two men who worked with him on the set of the fox tv show "empire." and those two who are now being questioned by investigators. now earlier in the investigation, police released grainy images of two persons of interest. chicago police today confirm they detained two men last night. they also searched their homes. the cbs tv station in chicago

is reporting that the attorney for those two says he expects charges staple tomorrow -- charges sometime tomorrow afternoon. another station is reporting that the police are looking into whether the entire incident was a hoax. although the chicago police department chief communications department tweeted "media reports of the "empire" incident being a hoax is unconfirmed by the case detectives." superintendent contacted abc7 chicago to state on the record we have no evidence to support their reporting and their supposed c.p.d. sources are uninformed and inaccurate." and abc7 also said that smollett may have been motivated to organizenaise the hoax because he was being written awe of "empire" but 20th century fox released a statement saying the idea

that jussie smollett would be written off of "empire" is ridiculous. he remains a coal player on the successful series and we continue to stand by him. smolletts spokesman told us simply these are ridiculous rumors. smollett's story he was attacked on a dark chicago street by two men shouting homophobic insults has not changed since the alleged assault was first reported. but going back to our own matt finish in chicago -- matt finn in chicago, he tell us us that the chicago detectives continue to question smollett over whether or not this story is real or fake. tammy? >> tammy: great reporting. thank you. obviously still complicated. eventually we mate get to details of the -- we might get to the details of the matter. also tonight, fired f.b.i. acting director andrew mccabe making astonishing admission about the

unprecedented task that they tried to take down president trump. >> i was concerned that i could put the russia case on solid ground in indelible fashion that were i removed or reassigned or fired that the case could not be closed or vanish in the night without a trace. i wanted to make sure the case was on solid ground. >> tammy: remarkable. even if you don't like president trump shouldn't most americans be a little concerned about what mccabe admitted there? he is just one of several rogue f.b.i. agents no longer in a position because of their dangerous behavior. that includes comey, strozk, page and james baker. here now ranking member nunes. congressman, thank you for joining us tonight. >> busy day. busy news day on valentine's day. >> tammy: it has indeed. look, there is a weird kind of

disconnect, right? cognitive dissonance of a man saying because he might be removed at some point he would have to try to make sure that the investigation didn't go away as though he was running the f.b.i. by himself in a garage. what is your take on the seriousness of this considering that it is remarkable admission about the hayest levels -- highest levels at the justice department, con sparing if you will to reverse a presidential election. what can you say to the vayers tonight -- viewers tonight about this? >> that is the fist time i heard the clip in the entirety. the first word that comes me is a bunch of gibberish. what is he saying there? what actual evidence did you have that the trump campaign was colluding with russians? you had none. zero. the only evidence they had was what clinton campaign got from the russians and delivered to the f.b.i. that mccabe knew had come from the clinton

campaign and strozk and all the others. at that time when he is talking gibberish about how he will make sure that the investigation continues, we already know that is lead investigator peter strozk said there is no "there" there. not any collusion. that is what i think of it. >> he also noted in part of this interview that will be i guess on another network on the weekend is that he was shocked by it was comey's firing and he was then afraid that well, if something happened to him, this is what he wanted to try to reinforce what the investigation was. we know you can fire an f.b.i. director. and there is many layers of leadership in that agency. at the department of justice. those are not single individuals in charge. it makes no sense to stay you went out of your way and that is a man who is now, he's been referred to the justice department for charges. based on his lying to congress about his own actions.

to cover up his behavior. yet, he keeps pointing at the white house and the president as being the problem. in addition to con sparing with other people -- con sparing with -- conspiring with other people to remove the president from office in a remarkable way. >> that is the key term. they conspired early on in 2016 to open a counter intelligence investigation in to a political campaign. >> tammy: right. >> so they definitely did conspire. then they pushed this, so much so they got a fisa warrant on american citizen that came up empty. they got nothing. renewed four times. this continued on in to 2017 after president trump was sworn in. then a small kabul decided -- >> tammy: is it small? that is the other point we have to consider and wonder about as we must investigate this. how small was it? is this just the tip of the

iceberg? this is happening and miles per miles per americans did not know. i would be the usurpation of highest level of justice department. we are going to be learning more. thank you for joining us. busy day. appreciate it. coming up, senator bob menendez threatens to call the cops on a reporter just for doing his job. that reporter joins us exclusively coming up next.

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>> tammy: back in august, the "boston globe" got the like-minded idtorial board scolded president trump on the

quote "frequent attacks on the media" so there will be surely a similar campaign for the gross attack on the press. >> i'm wondering why you won't answer questions on the deal. >> i won't ask questions with you. you're trash. >> why do you think we're trash? >> don't keep harassing me. >> well in case you missed it that was senator bob menendez threatening to call the coppers on "daily caller" henry rogers because he doesn't like the questions asked. and that reporter henry rogers joins us. have you heard from the senator office or any reporters about this? >> well, it's funny actually. his communication director tweeted about this shortly after it went viral after the clip went viral after he would not speak to my intern, paul and i. he threatened to call the police on us. they tweeted out the article in support of the senator's comments.

>> tammy: this is particularly troubling, though. he got particularly hostile when he found out that you weren't legacy media. that was the reason why not. what do you think he has a problem with? conservative media or the "daily caller" in particular? what do you think? >> we wrote a story about him a couple of years ago that led to an investigation and basically found him guilty of hiring underage prostitutes. so i understand why he might not like us, or "daily caller" that much. but that is no reason for him to threaten to call the police on me for asking a fair question, a softball question about the green new deal. >> tammy: absolutely. i agree with you. i don't believe he was found guilty. i think there was a hung jury and they dropped charges ultimately. but bottom line is he didn't like questions being asked. he is a lawmaker threatening to call the scopes on a reporter -- cops on the reporter. hypocrisy there. thank you, henry. for all of you i want to point

out the media hypocrisy. this is the leftist media when they don't like something that trump says. >> no problem in the u.s. has done what he is doing which is single out political enemies and lump them in with the media. >> the president repeatedly calling the press the enemy of the people. >> president trump says the media are responsible for the country's angry political climate ignoring his own hostile rhetoric. >> he hates the news. he hates us. >> tammy: all right. but when a member of the conservative media gets attacked, well, that obviously doesn't count as much as the same certainly as we saw in the last segment there with henry. joining me is former tennessee congressman. and the democratic strategist. what i does the left only defend the media or freedom of press in general when it's convenient for them? do you see it that way? i think you probably don't. >> i obviously don't. the real issue is creating the

parallels where they don't exist. the issue with the president he has created a hostile work environment. this is a safety, i. we -- a safety issue. we had a camera man assaulted last week. he has removed press passes from the people's house, the white house. so on the president's said we have a safety issue. not just a politician not wanting to answer questions. that happens every day in this country. >> tammy: certainly but you can say no without asking a question without saying you will call the police on someone. you don't think it's a security issue or sends a signal to americans that reporters should be arrested if they dare to ask a question? >> as far as i know the capitol police were not called. >> but he threatened it. >> the halls of congress are a public zone and thes press have a right to public zone. keeping press from the white house is the people's house. >> tammy: you can -- keeping press is not the same as asking for a different

reporter to represent an entity. i understand what you are saying but i think the president is powerful. a senator is powerful. zack, what is your take on this? >> what is good for the goose is not good for the gander. but on the big issue and the reason that the president can get away with saying fake news. paulwalter kronkite said the mea is the fourth branch of government. >> tammy: it's an important role. >> if the median journalism is not done without fear or favor and if they stay objective they lose the credibility. they have lost so much credibility that the president can say "fake news" and it resonates with the american people. >> that is why i want to distinguish between credibility of the news and safety environment. yellow journalism since the 1890s in the country. people critiqued the credibility of the media.

when you start to put the press in danger and they are in fear of doing their job -- >> tammy: this is different between the president issuing an opinion of the media that it's the enemy of the people or it's fake. that is an opinion. if the president came out and said a reporter should be arrested for asking him a question he doesn't like -- >> there was an assault at a cameraman at a rally with the president last week. an assault. so if he is encouraging this type of aggression toward the news reporter house can they do their job? >> tammy: i think its a bit specious to say what the president is saying considering what the media says about the trump supporters and what the media says every day. the media is there to be heard by all americans and to suggest that somebody within an encounter and exchange with a cameraman that is the president's fault is one of the problems here. not everything is president trump's fault. this is what i people begin to have a question about the

veracity of the media and their attitude and what they are trying to promote. >> tammy, we have a trust problem. the congress needs to restore their trust problem and the media needs to restory theirs. then the country would have more faith. >> tammy: we are seeing it also affected in the ratings. right? you have got networks that are being beaten by the ancient aliens. because they are not trusted so much. >> right. >> tammy: people don't necessarily need to agree with everything they hear. they want to know why you are saying it, get some background to make up their mind about the nature of what is occurring. we can't conflate having an opinion with suggesting or threatening to have someone arrested. and when you can do it in the senate. you would agree it was inappropriate thing to say to the reporter. >> again, i don't know that the capital police were even called in this case, tammy. >> tammy: but it would be like you going in to threaten

to kill someone. i didn't kill him. just because i threatened him. >> i don't think it's analogous. >> we should be able to disagree without being enemies. we used to be able to do that. we'll get back to that at some point i do believe. thank you for joining me. we'll be right back with a special valentine's day last bite. chicken?! chicken.

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that. that is all the time we have tonight. i'm tammy bruce in for laura ingraham. thank you for watching. learn more about me at tammybruce.com and president of independent women's voice. shannon bream and the "fox news @ night" team take it from here. >> shannon: great to see you. thank you so much. we begin tonight with a fox news alert. right now the white house says it has put together billions more for the president's border wall. tonight, and within a matter of hours the president is expected to sign the border and the government funding bill and declare a national emergency. we're getting breaking information from the white house right now about the president's plan. hello. welcome to "fox news @ night." i'm shannon bream in washington. we have team coverage tonight. chad on the president's plans to take an extraordinary step to secure the border and the critics daring him to do it. david spunt live with capitol hill on details from the final deal but we begin with ellison barber from the white house where the president's team will be strategizing around the clock.