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do you support the president on the emergency use of the wall money? mike, yes, this situation has been ignored too long. let us know what you think. #at sean hannity, on twitter, hannity.com. let not your heart be troubled. tammy bruce filling in for laura. how are you? >> tammy: i am good. it's an honor to be handed off from me to you. don't be nervous. >> tammy: i won't be, it's a pleasure. >> tammy: i am tammy bruce in for laura ingraham this evening. and this is the "ingraham angle." we begin with a fox news alert. the spending bill to avoid another government shut down is on its way to president trump's desk as we speak s the president is expected to sign the bill tomorrow morning. he will also use the occasion finally to declare a national emergency to get the money for the border wall. the white house believes there is upwards of $8 billion they
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can tap into, to get that wall. we'll get into that. laura will be joining us in just a few moments over the phone to give her thoughts on what transpired tonight. first we go live to capitol hill where david spunt has the details on how all of this went down good evening tammy. big night on capitol hill before president trump signs that legislation in the morning which we're told he will as you just mentioned, house speaker nancy pelosi just actually signed it on capitol hill. now it's on its way to the white house. the vote totals, 300 yays for the spending bill, 128 nays on. that it was comprised between republicans and democrats, the majority of democrats. the senate passed the measure 83-16 earlier today. spent most of the day in the senate. on the president getting ready to declare a national emergency, majority leader mitch mcconnell made it clear he had assurances from president trump that the
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bill would be signed. this bill calls follow $1,373,500,000, 55 miles of fencing along the texas-mexico border. the department of homeland security must discuss any construction with local leaders before the construction of the wall takes place. this puts somewhat of a wedge between republicans, senators lindsey graham and richard shelby are calling the wall money a down payment consider this a down payment. and find the difference between 1.375 and 5.7 through executive action. some of it can be done by accessing existing accounts without a national emergency declaration. most likely you can't do it all without a national emergency. i think he will go the national emergency route if he has to other republicans, susan collins and john cornyn say they
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don't know if the national emergency was the best way to do it. senator cornyn has seen issues down there. on the democratic side in the house, progressive democrat from new york alexandria ocasio-cortez actually voted no on the package because she said it funded the department of homeland security and she has called specifically for a defunding of immigration and customs enforcement, ice, that's why she voted no, there. house speaker nancy pelosi earlier today felt very confident about this. she said she believed they would have the votes, the democrats would have the votes. also house speaker pelosi didn't rule out potential legal challenges if president trump, i should say when president trump declares a national emergency. however white house press secretary sara sanders said earlier today the white house is ready for any legal challenges. that bill on its way to the white house right now. 1159 pages, president trump's team will be working all night and he will sign it in the
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morning. >> tammy: it takes a village to read bills. joining us is the host of this program, laura ingraham, laura, welcome to your program. thank you for calling in for us. >> laura: hey tammy i'm winding my way through the mountains of colorado. if i go in-and-out, sorry about that. i just got off if the phone with a white house source and he said that, and this is their point, they were really in a no win situation here. they had to sign this because if they didn't, you know, pain inflicted on the american public, pain inflicted in the way we saw unfold before. a lot of frustration, however, from the white house about these provisions that were slipped in, in the writing process of this legislation. remember it only lasts, this only is good until the end of september, the end of this fiscal year. this is not a forever thing. but it is still very
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frustrating. the provision which i've been tweeting about and speaking about on my podcast today is the provision that gives presumably, it seems like, de facto shielding from deportation of any potential sponsor of any illegal immigrant kid who comes across the border, that could be second cousin twice removed if you read the language, a lot of discretion. i'm assured the department of homeland security is going to be extremely stringent in the way they interpret that provision. that they will not allow some wholesale de facto amnesty to be instituted through this provision. so they insist that is not something the american people should worry about. they are absolutely the confident that they're gonna be able to get billions for this wall, and build perhaps as much as 200 miles of the wall in critical places in the united states with this emergency fund,
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1.5 billion and then with more money coming from the i wanter sources from i guess [ indiscernible ] . >> tammy: laura you're breaking up a little bit. i want to ask you though in this process, the president is going to realize here this is gonna be par for the course. it is remarkable that this kind of bill went through and was approved of by the republicans, considering these land mines that are in it. he must realize that it's always going to have to be -- not necessarily compromise but that he's gonna have to always be working for us and against the establishment to get things done. so it might be those canyons in colorado. alright, well so we've lost laura. great, enough time though, great analysis and summary right there for us with her conversation with someone, her sources certainly in the white house. but we will be back with laura in just a minute as she comes
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through to a better cell area. let's go now joining me live from capitol hill congressman ken buck and congressman paul gosar. gentlemen welcome to the program, appreciate it. a very busy night for all of us. you heard laura and her description of how the white house felt, that their hand was forced. this is not really a great situation but they feel they can work with it. let me ask you congressman buck, how is this really a bipartisan framework? there are so many things that we don't get. it is not really exactly what the president wanted. it's in some ways can be considered embarrassing, certainly dangerous for immigrant communities because it limits what ice can do, or it tries to limit what ice can do when it comes to detaining and deporting individuals. how would you describe this as being a win for the republicans and for the president, if you can well first i want to thank laura for being in colorado and
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spending her money in colorado, i appreciate that very much. this is not a bipartisan bill. this is an institutionalist bill. this is a group of people that are doing their very best to thwart this president and stop a good american policy. they're acting in a way that both republicans and democrats, some republicans and democrats want to see. they're the spending too much money. they are stopping border security. they are hampering ice's efforts to make sure that this country is safer. they're also stopping our ability to interdict drugs that are coming into this country, we have a very serious heroin problem in this country. they're undermining our ability to protect americans. >> tammy: it certainly seems that way. i have to ask congressman gosar, your experience there. arizona is your state. this seems to be a remarkable dynamic. i don't know who other than the white house, who will have even
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read this bill knowing exactly how perhaps dangerous it is in certain aspects? what do you feel about that and the impacts on the border states, the states that are immediately impacted? well you're exactly right tammy. less than 24 hours to read it a thousand pages is physically impossible. once again it's the same mantra of the establishment here. jam it to the end of the week and throw a thousand page bill at you to take it or leave it. that's the wrong way about going about this. this affects my state. over 40% of the drugs coming into this country come through arizona. you need collaboration, you need border walls, more beds, ice that's dynamic, border patrol agents that are paid fairly and empowered. all of that is restricted in this bill. it doesn't help us, it actually hurts us >> tammy: see this is why obviously we know, everybody is obsessed with the president's approval rating which today according to rasmussen is at
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50%. congress can't say the same thing, you're between 8 and 13% approval. americans don't like when this happens. we've seen it over and over again. this is life and death especially for the immigrant communities, documented or not. these are things that make towns, like lawrence massachusetts where elisabeth warren announced her run for the presidency is a sanctuary city, is a hub as one u.s. attorney noted is a hub for opioids to be distributed throughout new england. those lives are ruined as the lives of the people that have to deal with that environment in their towns. this is the responsibility of congress k it's all about responsibility. we see this game continuing to be played, when it seems to be very clear about what needs to be done. congressman gosar let me ask, though, this has been going on for so many years this, seems to be no different. why is it no different for people in congress? what influence has the
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republicans not had in helping to make a change here in how things are done? actually there was a change here tammy, to the wrong side. this basically super charges child trafficking. because now what you're going to see is a president setting application where those people associated in the house or holdings with an unaccompanied minor will be off limits. we'll be stretching george h.w. bush s to take that decision as to who that is applicable to ice. this is a nightmare. >> tammy: this is confusing. congressman buck if i can ask you, the republicans, this is a bipartisan commission that came together to deliver this solution to the american people. and it's awful. how is it that the republicans leadership and republicans in congress in the house and senate all these people come together and come up with something that pretty much doesn't owe oh it's a game it seems. how is it that republicans can
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approve of what they've just put forward to the president? so this is a conference committee made up of appropriate ors, they have different dna than the rest of us in congress. they are born to spend money. they've put us $222 trillion in debt, at a rate of $800 billion a year, we'll be close to a trillion dlars a year in the next fiscal yearly. that's one of the main problems with this bill. we don't have people like paul gosar who are feeling the effects of this policy with ice every day. >> tammy: we're all feeling it certainly. congressmen i want you to stay there. i appreciate you being with us. i want to bring back laura quickly. laura welcome back. >> laura: sorry. >> tammy: i don't know if you heard the conversation, but continue on with what you were saying. >> laura: i did. tamly i -- tammy look, the people have to noel tonight, congress is responsible for this
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situation with the record number of people crossing the border, when they say there's no crisis they're lying to the american people. 1800 family units crossed the border on monday when the president was in el paso. 300 of them, two groups of 300 according to the "washington post" and dhs crossed on monday. that's a crisis. this bill does nothing to address that. it's an easy fix. we're gonna, i know on the show you're gonna play some of what i said last night for people to listen to again. it's an easy, easy fix. but this was totally unnecessary. the president's instincts on this has always been right. simple pragmatic thinking tammy. >> tammy: indeed he clearly is a man alone. he's made ever effort to come pro mice. people will remember the state of the union. he seems to be in washington the one person who is thinking about us, who is thinking about the future, who is not thinking
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about his next job or what, you know, the media is going to say. he is genuinely a man alone and facing what this swamp is putting forward to him. >> laura: and i would say this, i think the democrats were the ones who were willing to inflict pain on the american public. the president, i think, in -- it irked him to have to do this. but the president did not want to have to put the country through, and this economy through the uncertainty of another government shut down. it's a terrible position for him to be in f he's like a damocles sword hanging over the economy. he decides to do sadly which is the only card he has left which is the national emergency. the democrats pushed him into this situation, tammy. it was completely unnecessary. and the president did the right thing here. he had to do this this. this will be expedited to the supreme court. the supreme court is going to have to make a decision about
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whether the president's constitutional authority extends to this type of situation regarding the border. i think it's a no-brainer. he absolutely has the constitutional authority to do this. nancy pelosi's comments about this earlier today were ridiculous stupid. she doesn't know what she's talking about. this will be affirmed by the court. she just have to get to the court and then they will be off to the races. this is not the way any of us wanted this done. i'm really unhappy with a lot of what's in this bill. it's not what we wanted. the president should have done this in the first 100 days of his term. you can blame the pros in congress for skewing that up. >> tammy: he really was trying. this was a little man who started his term really trying to work with the system. being the compromiser, bringing people in, and obviously these last two years have been an education for all of us. and the president. >> laura: it has. >> tammy: -- has put this off, now he clearly realizes, i think this is important for the
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american people to see what congress really is doing, what the democrats are made of, and what the president has stated from the beginning that he continues to focus on. i think it's valuable because i don't think this is gonna end for the next six years. i think this is going to be the constant fight. >> laura: no. tammy this is going to be the election year issue. we thought this was going to be so, we thought it could be so. the democrats are bowing down at the border of open borders. this is a religion to them. they believe this is their religion. they don't believe in the old nation state. they think nations are passe. they think our sovereignty is something to be, you know, fungible, tradeable. and donald trump doesn't believe that. he thinks america is a special place and it should remain that way. that's what he believes. >> tammy: almost on the coat tails of the barack obama attitude that america's strength and specialness was the problem, they want to carry that on. we've seen the results of a man,
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donald trump who thinks the opposite, and the world is reaping the benefits of that. laura, great stuff thank you so much for joining us on your vacation. thank you for letting me keep your chair warm. >> laura: have a great show. everybody make their views heard to congress. do not take your eye off this ball. this is for the whole shooting match, this is for your country at stake. >> tammy: thank you. it's what we needed to hear. i want to bring back congressmen ken buck and paul gosar. congressman buck strong words. we see this as being an extension of not just the next six years, but it's what the election is going to be about. do you see at least the republicans in the senate being a bit more helpful to the president and certainly the republicans in the house of represent at that tifls being more helpful to his agenda as well which is at this point clearly the only agenda for the american people
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i think the american people respect strength, i think president trump is showing strength. he has clear vision from protecting americans from dangerous illegal aliens, especially drugs. the national emergency is that congress can't act. we need to take care of that. i applaud this president for taking a strong stand and making sure that all americans understand that we have a border and we need to enforce our border security. >> tammy: do you have any concerns at the same time -- we know we've got i think about 30 existing national emergencies that are in order in the united states. we know president clinton i believe issued 17, president obama issued i believe 12 or 13. so this is something that happens, and it's never a drama and people probably haven't been aware of the national emergency orders that have been implemented. but we heard from the democrats that they say oh well then we're gonna do national -- we can do this on other issues. do you think that the democrats need the permission of the
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republicans and what they do, to do what they're going to do? do you take that threat seriously? the democrat president of the united states have never been bound by the law, when you look at clinton, obama or carter, they have always expanded the presidential power. this president is much more limited in the scope and acting on a true emergency. congressman buck do you get the last word, do you have any concern about the national emergency declaration? i do. the president has at his disposal of $5.4 billion without touching the emergency clause. >> tammy: let's get it all ready to rock and roll. i think this president was betrayed by a lot of people in congress. >> tammy: the president knows what he has to achieve. he's looking out for the american people. he's going to find a way to make that work. thank you for joining us on a very busy night. i appreciate it
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thank you thank you. >> tammy: coming up we go live to the white house for the latest on the president trump's expected declaration of an emergency to get a border wall built. i'm off to college. i'm worried about my parents' retirement. don't worry. voya helps them to and through retirement... dealing with today's expenses... while helping plan, invest and protect for the future. so they'll be okay? i think they'll be fine. voya. helping you to and through retirement.
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takes. ellison barber a senior administration official tells us president trump is going to announce $8 billion for that border wall, his long promised border wall and he will use executive actions to move around and free up that money from various federal agencies. the president will declare a national emergency when it comes to that funding bill. they're not sure when they will receive a physical copy of it here at the white house. at this point i'm being told they expect president trump to sign it tomorrow morning. there are of course still more details that we will get throughout the night and of course more tomorrow morning. white house press secretary sara sanders told reporters today that more details would be coming. in a statement she said this, quote, president trump will sign the government funding bill as he has stated before. he will also take other executive actions, including a national emergency to ensure we stop the national security and
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humanitarian crisis at the border. the president is once again protecting the border and securing our great nation. a national emergency declaration will almost certainly be blocked by the courts. according to a new report doj is telling us it's almost certain they'll jump in to block this, quote: >> president trump has repeatedly says if he takes the national emergency route he expects legal action to follow. this afternoon the white house said they're ready for it. press secretary sara sanders said there should not be any of that sort of action. in her words the president is doing his job and congress should do theirs. house minority leader kevin mccarthy said he spoke with the president this evening. he feels good about the funding bill. earlier in the day the president was very conflicted about certain sections of the legislation.
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tammy. >> tammy: ellison thank you very much. appreciate it. this could all stop tomorrow if congress did what it should do tonight. >> laura: all asylum applications should be filed outside of america. secondly, the law must be changed to allow for immediate border turn backs. third, one illegal border crossing, and you're out. you're back home, and that means back to zero tolerance. finally, prosecute more adults, for child endangerment. >> tammy: well that was laura here on the angle last night as she mentioned with her advice to fix the border security bill. joining me tom holman, former acting director of ice and hector garza vice-president of the national border patrol council. mr. garza, clearly this is an
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argument about whether or not there's an emergency. we know in 2017 over 70,000 americans died of overdoses primarily due to opioids, penitentiary until that and heroin. that is more than the 58,000 people who died in all of the years of the vietnam war combin combined. one year, 70,000 americans dead from drugs that come primarily, 80 to 90% from the southern border. is that not an emergency, sir? it's an emergency. but we see right now the three ports of entry a lot of dangerous drugs. you have to consider that between ports of entry those are considered unsecured locations. ports of entry are secure locations with technology and manpower. between ports of entry we don't have the technology and manpower. yes it is a crisis and president trump should declare an emergency. >> tammy: you see this every day, the men and women you represent see this every day. mr. holman, you know, your experience too i think is invaluable here in that there's
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arguments from the democrats who say well most of this comes from through the secured point of entries no. >> tammy: what does that tell you about -- even if it was true what does that tell you that what happens with the unsecured areas if all of these drugs, if they argue are coming in from the ports of entry, all the more reason why we would need the wall, correct? look democrats are twisting "the story." what the fact is, more drugs are seized at the port of entry because every car is stopped! every person is talked to! so of course they will find more drugs because they have more security. that doesn't mean drugs aren't coming across from between the points of entry. they can be and youing would on backpacks and driven through with are ka. we need security between the points of entry so we can arrest more of that. they turn the story around, give the american people false
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narratives, you have a border patrol agencying with you, when i was a border patrol agent, 221 kilos in a truck that came across a barbed wire fence, it happens. >> tammy: mr. garza there's the attitude of what we the find or i want depict is what's interdict is what's coming over. we know that border walls that exist what they've stopped over 90% of the illegal activity. can we expect that with what we're going to be building now, whether it's the rio the grand or wherever the president needs to start? this border bill is not good for border security. it's actually very, very bad. if you look at the 55 miles that were approved the language in there re stricts where we can build that border wall. as a matter of fact in the rio grande valley those are areas that are very, very busy where drugs are coming across and dangerous criminals. we have about four agents that account for 300 aliens.
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>> tammy: what we're dealing with here is this framework of the national emergency, and at least allowing us to then approach this in a much more aggressive way. gentlemen thank you for joining us. appreciate it. breaking details raising new questions about the alleged maga attack on the empire actor jussie smollett. new details about a group of progressive field fbi leaders, extraordinary development trying to take down president trump p house intelligence ranking member devin nunes joins me live with can't miss reaction. do your asthma symptoms ever hold you back? about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12
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for some time now multiple law enforcement and city officials have been telling our own chychrun based report or matt flynn the attack appeared to be a hoax. they base that on not having found evidence of an assault even after looking at hundreds of hours of security camera video recordings from the hour. with the investigation ongoing we have been circumspect in your reporting. tonight local chychrun media outlets are reporting chychrun police are indeed investigating whether jussie smollett may have staged the at fact along with two men who worked with him on the set of the fox tv show empire. those two who are being questioned by investigators. earlier in the investigation police released grainy images of two suspects. police in chychrun confirmed they detained two men last night and researched their homes. the cbs station in chychrun is
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reporting that the attorney for those two says he expects charges sometime tomorrow afternoon. another station a bc7 chychrun also reporting that police are looking into whether the entire incident was a hoax. although the chychrun police departments chief communications officer tweeted tonight, quote: media reports about the empire incident being a hoax are unconfirmed by case detectives. super intent hadn't has contacted abc chychrun to state on the record that we have no evidence to support their reporting and their supposed cpd sources are uninformed and inaccurate. smollett may have been motivated to organize the hoax because he was being written off of empire. the show released a statement saying the idea that jussie smollett has been or would be
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written off empire is patently ridiculous. he remains a core player on this very successful series and we continue to stand by him. smollett's spoke man told us these are ridiculous rumors. smollett's story that he was attacked on a dark street by two men shouting racist and home phone home know phone i can statements -- he tells us tonight that chychrun detectives continue to question smollett over whether or not this story is real or fake. >> tammy: wow!. great reporting. thank you. obviously still complicated. eventually we might get down to the details of the matter. thank you sir. also tonight, fired fbi acting director andrew mccabe making an astonishing admission about the un-president did effort by himself and other top fbi officials to try to take down
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president trump i was very concerned that i was able to put the russia case on absolutely solid ground, in an in tell i believe fashion that were i removed quickly or reassigned or fired, that the case could not be closed or vanish in the night without a trace. i wanted to make sure that our case was on solid ground. >> tammy: remarkable. even if you don't like president trump, shouldn't most americans be at least a little concerned about what mccabe just admitted there? let's not forget mccabe is one of several rogue fbi agents no longer in a position because of their dangerous behavior. that will includes stroek, baker, comey and mccabe. congressman nunes, thank you for joining us it's been a busy news day on valentine's day. >> tammy: it has indeed. there is a weird kind of disconnect, right? a cognitive disconnect of a man
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who is saying because he might be removed at some point he would have to try to make sure this investigation didn't go away, as though he was running the fbi by himself in a garage. what is your take on the seriousness of this, considering the remarkable admission about the highest levels at the justice department conspiring if you will, to reverse a presidency shall election? what can you say to our viewers tonight about this? so that's the first time i heard that clip in its entirety. the first word that comes to me is a bunch of gibberish. what is he saying there? right? what actual evidence did you have that the trump campaign was collu colluding with russians? you had none. they had zero. the only evidence they had was the evidence that the clinton campaign got from russians and have delivered to the fbi that mccabe knew had come from the clinton campaign, and strzok and
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all the others. at that time when he's talking about gibberish about how he's going to make sure the investigation continues we already know the lead investigator peter strzok has said there's going to be no there, there, in other words no collusion. that's what i think of it. >> tammy: he also noted in part of this interview that will be i guess on another network on the weekend, is that he was shocked by, it was comey's firing and he was afraid if something happened to him, this is what he wanted to try to reinforce what this investigation was. we know that you can have -- you can fire an fbi director and there is many layers of leadership in that agency, at the department of justice. these are not single individuals who are in charge t makes no sense to say you went out of your way. this is a man who now has been referred to the justice department for charges, based on his lying to congress about his own actions, to cover up his own
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behavior. and yet he keeps pointing at the white house and the president as being the problem. in addition to conspiring with other people there, to remove the president! from office! in a remarkable way yeah, i think that's the key term that you just used there. they conspired early on, in 2016, to open a counter-intelligence investigation into a political campaign. >> tammy: right they definitely did conspire. and then they pushed this so much so that they got a fisa warrant on an american citizen that came up empty, they got nothing, it was renewed four times. this continued into 2017 after president trump was sworn in and then a small ka balance there decided that donald trump shouldn't be president. >> tammy: that's the other point we have to consider and wonder about, we must investigate this. how small was it? is this just the tip of the
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iceberg? this is happening and americans did not know. it would have been the usurping of an american res presidency illegally from the highest levels of our justice department. i think that should concern the american people here. obviously we're going to be learning more. thank you for joining us. busy day. appreciate it. coming up senator bob menendez threatens to call the cops on a reporter just for doing his job. that reporter joins us exclusively, coming up next. place, the xfinity xfi gateway.
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media. so there will be surely a similar campaign we believe for this gross attack on the press i'm wondering why you won't answer questions on the new green deal. [ indiscernible ] you're trash. >> why do you think we're trash sir? [ indiscernible ] >> tammy: well in case you missed it, that was senator bob menendez threatening to call the coppers on daily caller reporter henry rogers. he joins us live right now. henry have you heard from the senator's office or any reporters about this? well it's funny actually. his communications directors tweeted about this shortly after it went viral, after this clip went viral after he would not speak to my intern and i. and threatened to call the police on us. so actually they tweeted out the article and the report of the senator menendez's comments
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>> tammy: this is particularly troubling. he got particularly hostile when he found out you weren't legacy media. that was the reason why not. what do you think he has a problem with? obviously conservative media or the daily caller? particular? what do you think? well we brought "the story" about him a couple years ago which led to an investigation which basically found him guilty of hiring under aged prostitutes. i understand why did he might not like us, the daily caller that much. but it's no reason for him to threaten to call the police on me for asking a fair question a softball question about the green new deal >> left1: henry, absolutely i agree with you. i don't believe he was found guilty, i think there was a hung jury and they dropped charges ultimately. bottom line is he didn't like questions being asked and he's a law maker threatening to call the cops on a reporter. certainly a little bit of hypocrisy there. i want to point out the media
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hypocrisy. this is the leftist media when they don't like something trump says no president in the u.s. has done what he is doing, is which is single out political enemies. lump them in with the media the president of the united states repeatedly calling the press the enemy of the people president trump says the media responsible for the country's angry rhetoric he really hates the news, he hates us. >> tammy: alright. when a member of the conservative media gets attacked that obviously the doesn't count as much as the same certainly as we saw in that last segment there with henry. joining me is jack and scott. scott why does the left only really defend the media when, freedom of the press in general when it's convenient for them? do you see it that way, i would think you don't i obviously don't. we're creating problems where
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they don't exist. the issue with the president is he's created a hostile work environment. it's a safety issue the. we had a camera man assaulted last week. he's removed press passes and kept people from the people's house, the white house. so the fact that on the president's side we have a safety issue, not just a politician not wanting to answer questions, that happens every day. >> tammy: well certainly. but you can say no to answering a question without saying you're going to call the police on someone. you don't think that creates a security issue or sends a signal to americans that that reporter should be arrested if they dare to ask a question? as far as i know the capitol police weren't called. >> tammy: but i threatened it it? >> the halls of congress are a public zone. the press have a right to the public zone. keeping press from the white house, it's the people's house >> tammy: keeping press is not the same as simply asking for a different reporter to represent
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an entity. i understand what you're saying. i think the president is powerful. a senator is powerful. zach what is your stake on this? what's good for the goose is obviously not good for the gander. on the big issue here, the reason the president can get away with staying fake news, remember walter cronkite said the media is actually the fourth branch of the american government. that scarce the voters. who gave them that power? >> tammy: it's an important role. when they abdicate their job -- if it's not done without fear or favor and stays objective they lose credibility. they've lost so much credibility that the president can say fake news and it resonates with the american people i wanted to -- yellow journalism existed sins the 1890s in this country. people have critiqued the credibility of the media. when you start to put the press in danger, when you start to have to be in fear of doing
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their job that's what you have a problem. >> tammy: this becomes a difference between the president issuing an opinion of the media, that it is the is enemy of the people or that it's fake, that's an opinion. i would argue also if the president came out and said a reporter should be arrested -- arrested for asking him a question he doesn't like -- there was an assault of a camera man at a rally last week, an assault. if he's encouraging this type of aggression toward the news reporters, how could they possibly do their job? >> tammy: i think it's a bit specious to suggest that what the president is saying, considering what the media says about trump supporters, what the media says every single day, what americans hear, the immediate i can'ts out there to be heard by all americans, to suggest that somebody who within an encounter and exchange with a camera man, that that's the president's fault that's one of the problems here, is that not everything is president trump's fault. you know, this is i think why people begin to question the
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veracity of media and their attitude and what they're trying to promote tammy we have a trust problem. the conditioning coming needs to restore their trust problem. frankly the senator menendez needs to restore his trust problem and the media needs to restore theirs and the country would have more trust, more faith. >> tammy: we see it in the ratings. you have networks being beat is en by aliens because they're not trusted so much. people don't necessarily need to agree with everything they hear. they want to know why you're saying it, get some background so they can make up their own mind about the nature of what's occurring. we can't conflate having an opinion with suggesting or threatening to have someone arrested. i mean that is -- when you actually could do it, in this setting, you would agree that was an inappropriate thing to say to that reporter? i mean again i don't know that the capitol police were even called in this case. >> tammy: it would be like you going in and threatening to kill
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someone, i didn't kill them even though i threatened it i don't think it's analogous in this country we should be able to disagree without being enemies. >> tammy: we used to be able to do. that we'll get back there at some point, i do believe. we'll be right back with a very special valentine's day last bite. ..
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