heritage auctions. look in your addicts. that is a fox reporter this saturday february 16. im jon scott. thank you for spending your day with us. see you tomorrow. ♪ >> hello america i am mark live in this is life liberty and live-in fred dryer it is a great honor i feel like i know you. >> we have talked a few times but i feel like i know you because i watch you on that great series. you are notou a broadcaster but you are a conservative. >> that is a great combination

so that is what i want to get too but first i want to start from the beginning you started with the giants for two years then you go to the other coast with the l.a. rams and were on defense did you play any other position? defensive end. 6-inch what was your heaviest quick.s your >> i never played a game of football over 220 pounds. >> could you have alignment today? yes. you would have to be on a special package split the linebackers today are 240 and they are really fast i would fit in there somewhere. >> you were really good i y. the rams were good and then i got to the super bowl. >> wee did.

>> we were beat by pittsburgh. mark: we were talking before the program i ask if you have any injuries and you are doing pretty well you are in shape, shape, 215 but a lot of your colleagues are not in such great shape they did get whacked pretty good with concussions. you had several. >> i have had seven reported that i know of. >> but it's a real problem for some. >> it is a very very big problem especially nowadays with college and high school and professional levels. the fundamentals to engage the ball carrier and to bring them to the ground is lost if you take that out of football you don't have football. >> what do you mean? the rules are not helpful quick. >> they are not taught because

title ix years ago in college the coaches said get the guy on the ground quit monkeying around if you get the ball out that's great but we have other things to do so they spend more time on different parts of the game than the fundamentals of teaching how to engage the ball carrier. they just don't do it they don't find value in that. guess what? has generations have changed you have commissioners and coaches and ownersoa, and the sport has changed to where to myve amazemen amazement, you don't have any conversation with anybody associated with the sport that is legitimately concerned you are losing the sport. if you lose the ability to engage the ball carrier and bring him to the ground, you don't have a sport and that is

what they are on the verge of doing . mark: so the fundamentals people talk about the line and i don't want to spend a lot of time on this but that game was right on the line what do you mean by that quick. >> the line of scrimmage regardless of the quarterback or the coach or the owner of where you play or what surface, it all comes down to the guys at the line ofak scrimmage that is where you break your opponents will. that is what the sport isr about. i will break your will by beating up your big guys. watch. that is what this is all about. there are different ways to present that or prepare for that or the telecast and there are different ways of presenting the sport to a

viewing public but it's all done at the line of scrimmage. in 1981 when i left the rams, the remainder of that year i had 12 or 13 games for cbs as a commentator. my goal was even more true no now, i would explain to the people what i thought would happen and then i would use instant replay to back up if i was right or wrong. so you have people and tony romo is good but in the super bowl last week all you hear is a bunch of blabbing that doesn't fit with any of the visuals that is available for us. they say great things because i know what they're talking about. now show that. back it up. come out of the commercial to back up what you said

clever, smart , informative, back it upup with visuals so we know what you're talking about. mark: let me ask you, the super bowl is one on the line and the coaches may not realize that? obviously bella check realizes that. >> if you look at what he did to the rams he had two weeks to work against that offense. the game came down to the line of scrimmage. goff the quarterback for the rams spent half of his pass plays on his back foot he was out of sorts the whole game. and that pre- snap look that goff was getting was confusing.

he's not used to be putting on his back on the ground. he ran away and when you do dothat you have problems. he is a terrific young quarterback. i looked at that game as a setback for the organization and the head coach sean mcveigh. he's a good coach but he ran into a buzzz saw and he was beat at the line of scrimmage. mark: so quickly one of the great coachesle bella check and brady the greatest quarterback ever quick. >> i will say probably yes. >> he seems to read a defense very fast quick. >> yes. so one of the things romo was play-by-play.

he is a quarterback but i wanted to be in goff's head here is what is going on and why. goff was glazed over by the second quarter with a distant look in hisis eye and not self-aware but self-conscious. >> but the truth is he was punched he was in trouble the whole game as was the whole team they played good defense and confused brady a little bit not only is he just so

sharp he knows what he wants to do and has that ability to manipulate what he wants. mark: it is remarkable although my perspective as a pedestrian viewer, it was boring but as you explain it with the fighting in the trenches that would be an interesting different look that would be an interesting different look. mark: what about the knee taking there is less than that and the ratings are picking up clicks so what about those that were taking these before? do you come down on that quick. >> here is what is interesting. a couple years ago colin takes anyak if i'm the owner of the 491 - - 40 niners i go down to the field and say what are you doing? i am protesting a white police officers killing black people.

i say good. leave the field take off your stuff and wait for me until the game is over with. we will meet the press together. it is important for the franchise to support their quarterback because that is the face of the franchise. what you want to make sure you are doing is give the player plenty of opportunity to articulate hisio actions. he was never interviewed after that. we never heard from him ever. we don't know his complaint we theard that circuitously that said he was upset because of the situation and by the way , there was a comment made that was hilarious i will do

it until someone solves the race issue. [laughter] you will be down there a long time. >> i would have yanked him off the field. >> and don't let it be a spectacle and refuse the cameras to continually cut back to him get him off the field get on with the game pay homage to your franchise these fans pay a lot of money to watch that game. the main issue, it is up to the franchise to cultivate the quarterback for the reasons that are obvious but you want your quarterback to be the leader h of the franchise. you want him to be the titular head of the franchise. therefore, i want the quarterback to articulate specifically what he wants but not on the field.

that's a football field. let's go face the press. >> i think the reason he is not in football because the league realizes he did not handle thatt worth a darn and i feel sorry for the guy honestly because he is troubled by something i wanted to hear s from him and have the organization take control of the situation. >> so there is a place and time for everything. you can do it but not on the football field. >> of course. >> if i'm the owner i would say how can i help you? let's go in this room the presss and many people you want to talk about talk about it and articulate it but they did not do that. mark: when we come back ie want to talk about how you got into

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by the gig or get unlimited. and now get $200 back when you buy and eligible smartphone. click, call, or visit a store today. mark: fred dreyer you are a conservative i want to get into that but first, i am curious how you made the transition from a great football player to acting. you have a long running series hunter that was one of my favorite how did you get into that i was drafted by the giants is 69 and then go to 68 and it doesn't take very long to realize you cannot play that sport too long. >> i played 13 years i joke i played 12 to many but it is true.

so once you get absorbed and become proficient and then what is next? i have always been a fan of movies one incident occurred playing the jets in the stadium in 74 and we flew back to l.a. i got back very late. i couldn't sleep so i turned on the tv and there was gene reckman and i never sang for my father. i said i will give this a look. and i said why? what is he doing or what isn't he doing? i was curious about the craft of acting so i became curious because of that and then i started to get into it and then i found an acting coach who mentored me.

what was great about my transition i was still able to earn a living playing football while i was making the transition out of that culture into acting. out great for me. so when i left the rams 1981 and went out on my own. it was daunting with the four oh five freeway up to hollywood and then i realize this is it. this is in my life now. reading for stuff trying to get jobs. it was exciting but it was very intimidating. i had a good acting coach. i was prepared. it was exciting and new and i got lucky and got into a

couple shows and made friends with the network they said we will try to find something for you. and they were true to their word. cheers. there was a shot of me to get that but ted danson got that. he was great in it. but those types of things that grant tinker at nbc said get him into a show. it was great. i was being looked after. mark: hunter starts 1984 through 1991. it was a big-time show and you are detective sergeant hunter if i recall. there was a lot of physical activity driving fast cars and chasing people. were you surprised you got it

or that it lasted so long quick. >> by the time i went out to read i said i am this guy. i knew it. it was just a matter of fact if they see it or not. or if they miss it. but i walked into those meeting rooms i must have read for 50 people five times before somebody said. >> days sit you in one - - send you into the core door with these pages catch up and we will let you know when to come in. there are actors lined up outside mumbling through their pages they call human and you walk in, there is a room barely this size of the stage. mark: you have to memorize it

right there? how do you do that. >> they call that offcr script. that's what you go to school for. mark: so you were picked quick. >> i wasic picked. mark: how did you hear about >> in this case, they call you and you go out and read and i call my age and i said i think i did pretty well. he said we will get back to you then they want you to come back tomorrow. so then they start putting the shows together then they bring more people into the room to akt across section of the decision and then they whittle that down they brought in mark dennehy to play the villain they eventually casted him in the pilot but they brought brian dennehy in they want - -

we were both physical you can see the physicality in theca room. of course i am keen to that. but it was my football background. but when you are in a room with people, if you start to move around a little bit, you can control the room. mark: seven years. do you miss it quick. >> i enjoyed the show tremendously. it helped my life. it helped my confidence going eforward. i knew the readings were there, the networked liked me and the fans liked me. more importantly. i had a great opportunity i'm still doing stuff but the same

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but you are conservative, which i want to explore with you, were you always conservative? did you not know you were a conservative? when did you decide you wanted to be more outspoken about it. >> i have always been conservative, i defined it as embracing truth and reason. and as i got older, i realized -- >> that is ai air -- yes. >> i realize political entities, probably republican party is best for me. to look to see what they are saying, not that i was eager to join. to be a part of it. i was very skeptical, i don't like joining stuff. >> i'm with you. >> i don't want to say i'm a

democrat, a talk to these people all of the time, i'm a democrat so what, can you think for yourself, what do you think, give me your opinion, well we -- forget it. i thought that republican party meeting the best place for me to find a conversation. not to get a republican badge. to be invited to a you know a luau some place, i got to the feeling that my interests politically were based on those that believed as i did. i wanted to talk to like-minded people. not that you know, i have a not that you know, i have a a political ad then flow but to into his for.

it's not five and will not be anytime soon.nors so don't ask me to pretend we will have a conversation in group therapy. mark: you decided you would be a republican? when reagan was governor in california right around then he went to cal berkeley to be on the steps of the administration and one say politician breaksf the law and talking to me and astern parent way that i have to hear what this guy must have to say and maureen was running for an

in congress in los angeles to come on down. i did and then we started to talk about the rams and all the great games that we played and it was great to meet him but but for the most part i really liked him his comments sounded reasonable but not unlike trump. i like trump initially because his common sense reasoning and a self-made guy. you have to be doing something to put a hole in the ground and put a building up their. and helicopters are landing on that thing all the time people are coming in and out. that's just one building. he has made a livelihood to be able to do that. i don't see any other

politician in my lifetime that has accomplish that and that did qualify him to be ready for the office of the presidency. now, is he crazy? that's another thing. is he rude? that's another conversation. the factthe is, i don't care. i had coaches i did not like and coaches i would argue with and coaches that were competent and good that is reason i played for them not because i liked them or agreed with everything. i have not met him. mark: i have met reagan and trump. they have different approaches, they both have a strong charisma and principles and courage. i think that is why so many people like trump see the same thing.

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think a lot of people out there are thinking but the politicians don't say it which drives politicians nuts and .heir media friends nuts >> look. it is as if he says i've got eight years to put a building in that whole. i'm going to do it. and i'm not going to tolerate people stopping me, i know what i've got to do, that building should be there i will put it up there. and in order to get the building there, you have to be truthful and have a reason and common sense and be factual and you have a budget and a timeframe and this is the job i have accepted this is a job i will perform for the people. they have elected me to do it and i will do it. my issue with donald trump is

he talked a lot about the swamp. okay. he's been in the office two years but i have not heard any information coming back to us about what the swamp is or who was in it, what it looks like, the shape of it, where can i go to get information about it. but here is what i wish he would do. i wish you would get rudy giuliani and go down the hall to where rudy giuliani put up the dossiers of the five families that he declared that all out war on the mafia families of new york and put them up. this is my rookie card. there is me and all the pertinent information. if he would put up a picture of 535 elected officials with

a little bit about each one, how much money they have taken since they have been in office, who are we hearing from, hwhat is the lineup of how they voted? so forth and so on. and exploited who these people are, and also show the lobbyist and who they are. how much money they are getting. who are they in business with? cross pollinate 535 republicans and democrats. everybody the swamp is washington. okay. here is the swamp hears crony capitalismis the crossbreeding of what has been going on and the big business that they hate trump interruptinges. people voted for trump. they don't likevo that. the powers that be do not like

the fact that trump has a relationship with the american people and individual parties hedon't. the clintons are finished. if they would have hired or if trump had hired a better attorney general who would not recuse himself, by the way he had to know he would recuse himself that would have been unconscionable on sessions opart. but if they would have brought in the right attorney genera general, he would've had people in jail by now with a two year head start, doing what he should have been doing to keep his word to the american people. he has been great keeping his word to the american people. i will vote for him again. i think he will be one of the greatest presidents we have had and certainly in my lifetime. mark: and appealing to the on eayounger people. n> it's a great gig you can

imagine rudy giuliani and in front of the press showing people this is the gambino family. and go right down the list and they have done everything and how easy it is to investigate people. mark: let me ask you about that. the press has double standards. are they going to investigate people who were conscience one - - costly trying to push trump out of office or for constantly attacking the president or investigate the president and his family? there is no indication runningga for governor even lieutenant governor, he is the governor now. t they have this yearbook with his photo in a full klansman suit and another guy all blackface which is racist as can be the washington post endorsed him for governor. now kavanaugh they go back to

when he was born and did he burp up when he was three months old and everything they look at his yearbooks with no corroboration whatsoever. so they encourage democrats to run for office and through kavanaugh and trump are treated completely differently i don't see the media doing the heavy duty investigation that those opponents are capable of, do yo you? >> whether that happens or not, the point is he has done the work to put it up on the board. anybody can go on that room that is a great overwhelming visual aid to say you want to know about crony capitalism? remember he's talking to us he's not trying to convince the pressalks of anything he is saying this is what i found out.

this is the crony capitalism and here is the swamp i've been telling you about in this is how it works. mark: we will be right back.

rrk: fred you mentioned

earlier you were attracted to the republican party because reagan was governor and president areou you still republican? >> no. i'm notne even independent. that is the beauty of trump. that is why i became optimistic. remember, we are coming off of bob dole and the clintons and obama and george w. bush and. mark: you are cringing. >> believe me. i getia infuriated having to eat the slop that the republican party is pushing out and it is just maddening. now here comes trump i said let's take a look at this guy

and how irreverent and matter-of-factly he broke the format and the form that they presume a presidential candidate has to be he has to be able to tell the truth and figure things out there is a lot of things that he is required to do there are extracurricular things that you get but there is a complete conversation you don't get that with george w. gbush with that dichotomy and there is a republican party in los angeles. i will tell you what i think remember the supreme court justice in alabama who was under fire from the press because he put the ten commandments in the rotunda? remember that guy? all by himself there is a

photograph on the daily news in l.a. with a picture of roy a moor moore. he had this lost and lonel look on his face. i said this guy is all alone. then he started to think. why didn't george bush go down to karl rove's office get the helicopter we are going to alabama and fly down to alabama land on the lawn and oosprint, because he can cross the line up the steps for your arm around this justice and tell the world i know this is a states rights issue but i flew down here to let you know i am with this guy if you know

what - - need me you know where to find me get back on the helicopter and take off. to me, that his leadership. mark: the ten commandments that is the basis of our law that shall not kill, steal, covet, so forth you can even have them in a public place but in the supreme court there it is chiseled into the supreme court if you put in the public square, school, separation of church and state i but i will just add this, there is no separation of church and state in the constitution what the framers meant is you cannot impose your faith on somebody else but you are not supposed to molest somebody else's faith so the ten commandments in the public square the framers understood the founders understoodnt when it was in the 19 forties when the court started to turn that if

you don't like it, don't look at it. nobody is telling you what to do that is the judeo-christian foundation of the nation and i think we have lost our way. we will be right back. .. ive you two bucks for the chair. two?! that's a victorian antique!

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mark: future of the country, positive, negative, concerned, what? >> i am all of those things. rightfully so. i am worried that this country has seen the last of hope from the office of the presidency after trump leaves. what will happen when trump leaves? in two years, i think it will be six years but when trump is gone will happen to the ability for

this country to get the candidate they want? i thank you will see a republican party restructure itself to prevent the people from getting what they want. mark: do you think the media will succeed in pushing him out of office with the democrats, whether through impeachment which would be quite outrageous or are they trying to tear him down over reelection or do you think he can overcome those things? >> i think he can overcome them. i would think that if he has made it this far, he has taken a beating this guy, if he can withstand the next couple of years then i think he will be fine but here is what i want him to do. i want him to get those rejected

pages and turn them over to the people. i want the people. mark: the fisa applications -- >> yes, why he has not done that, i do not know. i know there are things on his side should have taken care of that would have helped this country get through what we are going through right now if i give me one. >> like being aggressive and putting people in his cabinet that would help him like the correct attorney general. mark: i think he is working on that right now. >> he should. mark: he wasn't indefinite before. i think when people come from the private sector they are no not -- these are machetes and swords and cannon fire that a lot of people aren't expecting but all in all, how is he doing? >> he's terrific. he's just terrific. i'm very, very pleased to have had voted for him.

mark: all right, fred. great pleasure. >> thank you, mark. mark: god bless you. check it out next time on "life, liberty and levin". [♪] jesse: welcome to. "watters' world." i'm jesse watters. democrat control freaks. democrats like to say they want government out of the bedroom. but ironically the democrats want the government never other room in your house and your neighbors' house and your car and the restaurant. cory booker is a vegan and says eating meat will destroy the planet saying because of environmental impact. it's just not possible.